Gee, just what I needed to go further than just reading Basic Operation manual that came with my BR1600 All the helpful knowledge and time you put into this is so appreciated. Kind regards Roscoe.
Just watched your video and it has convinced me that I need to have a recording unit. I've been playing for 40 years and the few moments I've recorded have been lost over the years. You have convinced me that I should purchase the Boss 1600 so I can at least try to leave a legacy. Cheers mate 🎶🎸
Nice Tutorial 🙂 How do you use the buildin effects without recording them? I want to make a live recording and use The monitoring function to record dry mix but for more pleasure during recording i like to use some reverb added to the monitoring signal without recording it... Thnx!
Thanks Marcel. Loop effects (Reverb/Chorus/Delay) are not recorded to tracks unless you are bouncing or mastering, so if you just want to use some reverb while recording, simply press the reverb button, THEN the left arrow key (next to F1). These are the reverb settings for the INPUT sources. Adjust as required and record away. Any settings you make here are then COPIED to the reverb playback settings on the corresponding track. So although it may seem like you recorded reverb to the track when listening back, it is just adding reverb to the track playback and can be changed or even turned off completely afterwards. Hope that helps. I do plan on making a video covering both insert and loop effects in a bit more detail.
Hello Gerhard. Is your BR1600 firmware up to date? The Vocal Toolbox was updated in version 2 to get more a few more options - its well worth updating. There is quite a detailed explanation on how to use the Vocal toolbox in the Version 2 update manual which might help: www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/br-1600cd/owners_manuals/6ab702e6-6cc3-48af-a870-3ff0f79fdea3/
@@Gerd-u2u For backing vocals that have a healthy amount of reverb and are not upfront in the mix, I think they are quite usable, but obviously that's very subjective. Give it a try on a track yourself and see what you think.
Would this be suitable as more of a mixer for studio and live use and thinking of the recording function as a backup capture feature to capture the live sets? There’s one for sale locally for $250 aud so wondering if it’s a good double use device.
Hey Cris - You could certainly use it as a mixer. It has very usable preamps and phantom power for the 8 simultaneous inputs. I have seen it used for live recording - even linking two together to capture 16 tracks. The only thing to consider is what you will do with the recordings afterwards. Typically you record the full set which means you have a single large file. There is no way internally to split this into separate songs and with it only having a USB1 output, it can take a long time to transfer off the machines. You can buy 3rd party software to speed up the process, but out of the box, transfering is very slow, especially for "set size" files.
@@masteringtoolkit Thanks for that useful response. After I watched your vid, UA-cam algorithm suggested a vid about the Boss Gigcaster. That looks like it would be better suited to my needs
This is just the series I needed! Thanks for posting these videos. So far, I've only recorded live jams with mine, but I'm inspired to use more of its functions now. Cheers!
@@masteringtoolkitcan you dump your tracks into a PC DAW? Oh, and can you uncouple the stereo tracks and use them as a single track if needed?.... thanks.
@@titmusspaultpaul5 - No, not directly as the are in a proprietary Roland format. You have a few options though: - Export the tracks from the BR1600 while connected to a PC via USB. This is quite time consuming though as it needs to convert them all to WAV internally first and then you copy them over USB (which is a USB1 connection) There is software available to convert the VR8 files directly to WAV which you can buy, and there is also some free software to do this too. - If it is just a couple of tracks, exporting to a CD is a pretty efficient way to do it. You can use a CD-RW too and re use it as many times as you need. This is a good way to transfer a couple of track or a finished mix across. - You can connect the BR1600 to the PC via the digital IN/OUT and sync it to a DAW via MIDI. You can then transfer tracks backwards and forwards in real time. With regards to using the individual channels within a stereo track, in short, yes you can, but it has a number of limitations. I covered these in my previous video here: ua-cam.com/video/M9YwAYt0spg/v-deo.html
It certainly is! That's the reason I thought I'd put these videos together. There is not much in the way of tutorials for it out there (apart from the official DVD Owners Manual and that only really skims the surface of what it can do). Yes, the HDD can be replaced/swapped out. A CF card doesn't work on the BR 1600 though, but it does on the BR 1180 (based on my testing anyway).
@@masteringtoolkit Cool feature, not sure other digital recorders have. Did I see there is one button to automatically set all input levels if recording a band?
It depends on how you want to produce the music. The BR1600 is a multi-track recorder and will record anything you play into it. However, if you want to produce songs using just midi, virtual instruments, software synths and samples then the answer is no, and you should use a DAW instead.
@@joebrewer4529 I'm not sure how having a coaxial input allows you to create electronic music? As noted in my reply above, you can record *any* audio signal into the BR1600, either via the analogue or digital inputs, but I believe the question was asking if you could make electronic music *using* the BR1600...
@@masteringtoolkit for 10 or $20 you can get a coax to go out of your computer into the record it per track. Are use this to play out live. I just got a VS 1824 CD Theatres controlled inputs. I got a toraiz 16 going into all the inputs.
Assuming that your recording is a single stereo track, you can use the markers to set the start and end point of each song. Then use the track Copy function to copy each song section to a new pair of tracks (or a stereo track). Make a copy of the project for each song, and then delete everything you don't want to end up with one song per project. Alternatively, you can export each song section via CD R/W and then import that back into a new project for each. Lastly, if the songs are finished, you could also just use the CD track markers to set the start of each songs and then burn to CD.
@@masteringtoolkit wow that is a lot. It seems like you should be able to copy track sections and MIVD to a new song. I could copy the project 6x8 times but it is a 6 gig file
@@gazoo1990 The BR1600 is not really designed to be used like a stereo field recorder, but is for single song/single project multi tracks. There isn't any way to copy tracks between different projects via the BR1600. Are the songs finished and just need to be split, or are you planning to add more tracks to each?
@@masteringtoolkit to be more specific. I have a 7 input multitrack live recording 2 hours long. About 4GB. The entire thing needs to be mixed differently because of different instruments coming in. If I mix it down to 15/16 no problem. I can export the entire thing and split it on computer. But I’d rather not sit there for two hours mixing. I’ve set markers. Just wish I could say, “take tracks from marker 3 to marker 5 and create a new song. But it doesn’t look like that is possible.
@@masteringtoolkit yeah, it works fine for single song. Previously after each song, I would stop REC, store, create new song, REC. leaving me with 7-8 songs but the band got tired of waiting in between.
Glad I found this. I forgot how to use it and I never really used it to it's fullest potential. I have a few demos on my YT page that were done around 10 years ago and the quality is fantastic. I reached a memory limit and had to unload everything on a computer, then i cancelled everything and lost the drum patterns I had worked on and they didn't get downloaded, anyway, not a big deal, I suppose, but now I want to do more. Thanks for uploading.
Gee, just what I needed to go further than just reading Basic Operation manual that came with my BR1600
All the helpful knowledge and time you put into this is so appreciated. Kind regards Roscoe.
You're welcome Roscoe. Happy recording!
Just watched your video and it has convinced me that I need to have a recording unit. I've been playing for 40 years and the few moments I've recorded have been lost over the years. You have convinced me that I should purchase the Boss 1600 so I can at least try to leave a legacy. Cheers mate 🎶🎸
They are a great little unit.
You can still pick one up relatively cheaply too if your lucky!
Thanks for the comment J.
Thank you. Very interesting
No problem Iain - glad you enjoyed it.
Highly instructive and most useful . Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Mathews. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Nice Tutorial 🙂 How do you use the buildin effects without recording them? I want to make a live recording and use The monitoring function to record dry mix but for more pleasure during recording i like to use some reverb added to the monitoring signal without recording it...
Thnx!
Thanks Marcel. Loop effects (Reverb/Chorus/Delay) are not recorded to tracks unless you are bouncing or mastering, so if you just want to use some reverb while recording, simply press the reverb button, THEN the left arrow key (next to F1). These are the reverb settings for the INPUT sources. Adjust as required and record away.
Any settings you make here are then COPIED to the reverb playback settings on the corresponding track. So although it may seem like you recorded reverb to the track when listening back, it is just adding reverb to the track playback and can be changed or even turned off completely afterwards. Hope that helps.
I do plan on making a video covering both insert and loop effects in a bit more detail.
@@masteringtoolkit Thanks! I found it :-) Great support 😃
@@MarcelWierenga Glad to help - happy recording! :)
Hello, can you please explain how to create additional voices with the Vocal Tool Box,
Greetings Gerhard
Hello Gerhard. Is your BR1600 firmware up to date? The Vocal Toolbox was updated in version 2 to get more a few more options - its well worth updating.
There is quite a detailed explanation on how to use the Vocal toolbox in the Version 2 update manual which might help:
www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/br-1600cd/owners_manuals/6ab702e6-6cc3-48af-a870-3ff0f79fdea3/
@@masteringtoolkit Is the Vocal Toolbox usable at all, or do the voices just sound like a vocoder?
@@Gerd-u2u For backing vocals that have a healthy amount of reverb and are not upfront in the mix, I think they are quite usable, but obviously that's very subjective.
Give it a try on a track yourself and see what you think.
Would this be suitable as more of a mixer for studio and live use and thinking of the recording function as a backup capture feature to capture the live sets? There’s one for sale locally for $250 aud so wondering if it’s a good double use device.
Hey Cris - You could certainly use it as a mixer. It has very usable preamps and phantom power for the 8 simultaneous inputs.
I have seen it used for live recording - even linking two together to capture 16 tracks. The only thing to consider is what you will do with the recordings afterwards. Typically you record the full set which means you have a single large file. There is no way internally to split this into separate songs and with it only having a USB1 output, it can take a long time to transfer off the machines. You can buy 3rd party software to speed up the process, but out of the box, transfering is very slow, especially for "set size" files.
@@masteringtoolkit Thanks for that useful response. After I watched your vid, UA-cam algorithm suggested a vid about the Boss Gigcaster. That looks like it would be better suited to my needs
@@CrisPearson No problem - glad I could help. Best of luck 👍
This is just the series I needed! Thanks for posting these videos. So far, I've only recorded live jams with mine, but I'm inspired to use more of its functions now. Cheers!
You're welcome! They are very capable machine, with much more to offer than just a basic digital audio recorder. Enjoy!
@@masteringtoolkitcan you dump your tracks into a PC DAW? Oh, and can you uncouple the stereo tracks and use them as a single track if needed?.... thanks.
@@titmusspaultpaul5 - No, not directly as the are in a proprietary Roland format. You have a few options though:
- Export the tracks from the BR1600 while connected to a PC via USB.
This is quite time consuming though as it needs to convert them all to WAV internally first and then you copy them over USB (which is a USB1 connection)
There is software available to convert the VR8 files directly to WAV which you can buy, and there is also some free software to do this too.
- If it is just a couple of tracks, exporting to a CD is a pretty efficient way to do it. You can use a CD-RW too and re use it as many times as you need.
This is a good way to transfer a couple of track or a finished mix across.
- You can connect the BR1600 to the PC via the digital IN/OUT and sync it to a DAW via MIDI. You can then transfer tracks backwards and forwards in real time.
With regards to using the individual channels within a stereo track, in short, yes you can, but it has a number of limitations.
I covered these in my previous video here:
ua-cam.com/video/M9YwAYt0spg/v-deo.html
Still a VERY capable unit. Is this a unit where people have swapped the hard drive with a Compact Flash Card or Solid State Ram drive?
It certainly is! That's the reason I thought I'd put these videos together. There is not much in the way of tutorials for it out there (apart from the official DVD Owners Manual and that only really skims the surface of what it can do).
Yes, the HDD can be replaced/swapped out. A CF card doesn't work on the BR 1600 though, but it does on the BR 1180 (based on my testing anyway).
@@masteringtoolkit Cool feature, not sure other digital recorders have. Did I see there is one button to automatically set all input levels if recording a band?
@@Fezzler61 Yes, that's correct - the Level Calibration button allows you to set the levels automatically, even while playing all the inputs at once.
@@masteringtoolkit I know some A/D boxes have that feature, not sure if any other stand alone recorder has it. Neat.
hello excuse me but we make electric music with this studio ?
It depends on how you want to produce the music. The BR1600 is a multi-track recorder and will record anything you play into it. However, if you want to produce songs using just midi, virtual instruments, software synths and samples then the answer is no, and you should use a DAW instead.
@@masteringtoolkit that’s not true you can produce digital music electronic music on this unit. It has a coaxial
@@joebrewer4529 I'm not sure how having a coaxial input allows you to create electronic music?
As noted in my reply above, you can record *any* audio signal into the BR1600, either via the analogue or digital inputs, but I believe the question was asking if you could make electronic music *using* the BR1600...
@@masteringtoolkit for 10 or $20 you can get a coax to go out of your computer into the record it per track. Are use this to play out live. I just got a VS 1824 CD Theatres controlled inputs. I got a toraiz 16 going into all the inputs.
@@joebrewer4529 But the question didn't ask if you can record audio from a DAW, but if you can *make* electronic music *with* the BR1600.
I’m still trying to figure out how to split up a song onto two pieces. I have a 2 hour recording I want to split into 6 songs
Assuming that your recording is a single stereo track, you can use the markers to set the start and end point of each song. Then use the track Copy function to copy each song section to a new pair of tracks (or a stereo track). Make a copy of the project for each song, and then delete everything you don't want to end up with one song per project.
Alternatively, you can export each song section via CD R/W and then import that back into a new project for each.
Lastly, if the songs are finished, you could also just use the CD track markers to set the start of each songs and then burn to CD.
@@masteringtoolkit wow that is a lot. It seems like you should be able to copy track sections and MIVD to a new song. I could copy the project 6x8 times but it is a 6 gig file
@@gazoo1990 The BR1600 is not really designed to be used like a stereo field recorder, but is for single song/single project multi tracks.
There isn't any way to copy tracks between different projects via the BR1600.
Are the songs finished and just need to be split, or are you planning to add more tracks to each?
@@masteringtoolkit to be more specific. I have a 7 input multitrack live recording 2 hours long. About 4GB. The entire thing needs to be mixed differently because of different instruments coming in. If I mix it down to 15/16 no problem. I can export the entire thing and split it on computer. But I’d rather not sit there for two hours mixing. I’ve set markers. Just wish I could say, “take tracks from marker 3 to marker 5 and create a new song. But it doesn’t look like that is possible.
@@masteringtoolkit yeah, it works fine for single song. Previously after each song, I would stop REC, store, create new song, REC. leaving me with 7-8 songs but the band got tired of waiting in between.
Glad I found this. I forgot how to use it and I never really used it to it's fullest potential. I have a few demos on my YT page that were done around 10 years ago and the quality is fantastic. I reached a memory limit and had to unload everything on a computer, then i cancelled everything and lost the drum patterns I had worked on and they didn't get downloaded, anyway, not a big deal, I suppose, but now I want to do more. Thanks for uploading.
Thank you Jasper - I'm glad the videos are of help. Cheers for the comment (and for being the 100th subscriber too!)