Good video! I agree with all you said. The Kukje is one of the main reasons i got my 574. I love it so far after 150 hrs. The pushing power is amazing. Just wish the loader stick wasnt so far away. I do plan on turning it 90 degs. Look forward to more videos. Oh, ive had no regens so far. 😊
Good to hear! I thought it was going to be too far away for me but after using it a few minutes I decided I like it where it is from the factory. I'll be doing the 50 hour on it shortly.
That little turbo is so cute!! I wish my 4720 had one 😢 I am with you, I got a Branson because it’s mechanical injection and no computer junk to go bad or leave you stranded.
A lot of folks worry about the turbos but thus far I've run into zero issues. One caveat however is that you absolutely MUST allow them to cool for at least a couple of minutes after you've been running the tractor. Shutting them down immediately after hard use will cause the fan blades to warp. Since I grew up flying jet turbine helicopters this is second nature to me. I've seen cool down periods on those from 30 seconds to 2 minutes (mainly to prevent coking of the turbine blades).
Glad you liked it! We are going to feature the tractor extensively in the next couple of months. We just received the BY85 backhoe for it and have a Titan flail mower and three point tiller I have to put together.
Hi David, thank you for shooting the video so quickly. I have one more question do you know if the DPF is fed directly with fuel or is it fed through the engine on the intake stroke? Thank you
Wellllll, this is interesting. There's no diesel involved in the process at all. It's more akin to a catalytic converter than a DPF. There's a butterfly valve in the exhaust that adds a little back pressure to the exhaust which in turn heats up the DPF enough to burn the particulates off. All this is per my friend that's a regional maintenance rep for TYM. He's the one that recommended this tractor to me in the first place. Mechanical fuel injection vs a common rail system.
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 thank you, David, that is very interesting. Your friend recommended a very good tractor. I have been looking at Kabota for the last couple of years, but not anymore. I believe that engine will outlast the Kabota because the TYM does not eat its own POOP! Good luck with your channel. Thanks again, John.
Reminds me of the older Japanese made massyferguson tractors, like the 1030. Soild, no bs thats not needed. Curious if they have a manual trans options instead of hydro. That would seem even more bullet proof..anyway, nice video!
Thanks for the compliments. They do come with the shuttle shift transmission as well. I find the hydrostatic is more convenient for my purposes as I do a lot of front attachment work with the bucket, grapple, mini tree clip, etc etc. For strictly plowing type work the shuttle shift is a better option in my opinion.
how does the 574 compare to the LS for loader work? i have a T494. what do you call the stuff to put paint marks on bolts? the stuff i got is hard to see. great vidja, i got the kukje for the same reason. the most simple modern tractor engine made.
The 574 beats the LS XR4145 hands down in loader work. It's not even close. I think that is mainly due to the weight difference between the two machines. The TYM is better for loader work also due to the hydrostatic drive instead of my LS's shuttle shift. Lastly, there's simply the beefiness of the TYM vs the LS model I have. The stuff is called Torque Stripe if I'm not mistaken. I'll add an Amazon link in the description section of the video this afternoon.
This is the '24 model. Picked it up earlier this year. My background is aviation - particularly helicopters. Torque stripe is a requirement since those machines are constantly trying to self destruct.
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 Awesome, wasn't sure if it has stayed the same. Not sure if it's worth saving a few thousand on a '22 with 350 hours but a 3rd function. I also appreciate your flail mower video. Would you recommend that Titan one? I understand! I felt for our neighboring 60's crew chiefs working on those giant flying vibrating machines as we had an easier life on the C130's.
I flew Apaches from '86 to '02. Cobras for a couple of years before that. EMS as a semi-retirement job. I did take some time off to slug it out in the fixed wing world as a Part 121 line captain and training officer flying ATR 42s and 72s for FedEx but dang that was not much fun at all. Nothing like a whirly bird with rockets and missiles and cannons to brighten up your day. :)
Also, I do recommend the Titan for the price point. I'd rather have a gear driven system protected by a slip clutch instead of the belt driven system on the Titan, but I didn't want to pony up the additional money to have that. There's a significant price increase to do that.
There are sensors involved, just not an entire ECU "computer" that controls everything via an electric brain. The number of sensors is thereby significantly reduced. That also reduces the size and complication of the wiring harness. The easiest way to put it is to probably compare an analog system with a totally digital system. The Kukje is as simple an analog system as you can get on a Tier 4 engine. I hope that helps. Perhaps someone can explain it better for us?
A controller isn't always a digital computer. A quick example would be a release valve on a hot water heater. While it does control and prevent an overheat explosion, it certainly doesn't digitally control the water temperature. Trust me when I say to you that there is absolutely positively NOT an electronic control module on the Kukje engine. You will NOT have to have a computer and the associated software program to troubleshoot and diagnose issues with the Kukje engine. I don't know how else to explain it. There's a great video on YT somewhere that discusses the Kukje engine in more detail. Search for videos detailing the difference between it and other Tier 4 engines.
I gots me one of them there t494 tractor. ten years down the road they claim its easy to delete DPF, they say you have to unplug a data logger, do you know what it looks like?
I'm not advising anyone to do this, but the only source of heat for the kukje dpf is a restrictor plate in the exhaust tube. If you follow it out of the dpf you will see the restrictor over on the left side of the engine. From looking at mine it appears simple enough to remove the entire dpf and go with a straight pipe. Again, I'm not advising anyone to do this. It's just an observation so proceed at your own risk.
I like the specs of the tractor but don't be fooled, the reason those cast housings are so big on the India and Korean built tractors is usually because they are making up for poor quality iron. It works out in the end though, its strong and adds weight to the tractor.
Excellent point! I bought this model tractor for the engine. The weight runs a close second. It makes a world of difference. Where my LS 4145 would basically sit and spin the tires the TYM just plows on thru without a hiccup.
Only thing I don’t like about the air cleaner. It doesn’t have an internal pre-filter inside the main air filter like Kabota or John Deere if I can find another air cleaner assembly from an old John Deere, it’s going on there. I do not like that air cleaner assembly It’s just an accident waiting to happen.
I haven't had any issues as of yet. I do keep the filter clean though. My LS has dual canisters in the filter housing and I haven't noticed any difference between the two machines as far as the amount of stuff they're filtering out. That being said, the cleaner air you can provide to the Kukje is going to do nothing other than improve it's performance and life span.
Good video! I agree with all you said. The Kukje is one of the main reasons i got my 574. I love it so far after 150 hrs. The pushing power is amazing. Just wish the loader stick wasnt so far away. I do plan on turning it 90 degs. Look forward to more videos. Oh, ive had no regens so far. 😊
Good to hear! I thought it was going to be too far away for me but after using it a few minutes I decided I like it where it is from the factory. I'll be doing the 50 hour on it shortly.
That little turbo is so cute!! I wish my 4720 had one 😢 I am with you, I got a Branson because it’s mechanical injection and no computer junk to go bad or leave you stranded.
A lot of folks worry about the turbos but thus far I've run into zero issues. One caveat however is that you absolutely MUST allow them to cool for at least a couple of minutes after you've been running the tractor. Shutting them down immediately after hard use will cause the fan blades to warp. Since I grew up flying jet turbine helicopters this is second nature to me. I've seen cool down periods on those from 30 seconds to 2 minutes (mainly to prevent coking of the turbine blades).
Great video...Thanks!!
Glad you liked it! We are going to feature the tractor extensively in the next couple of months. We just received the BY85 backhoe for it and have a Titan flail mower and three point tiller I have to put together.
awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi David, thank you for shooting the video so quickly. I have one more question do you know if the DPF is fed directly with fuel or is it fed through the engine on the intake stroke? Thank you
Off the top of my head I don't know but I'll find out. I know a lot more about jet turbine engines that I do diesel engines :) (Retired pilot).
Wellllll, this is interesting. There's no diesel involved in the process at all. It's more akin to a catalytic converter than a DPF. There's a butterfly valve in the exhaust that adds a little back pressure to the exhaust which in turn heats up the DPF enough to burn the particulates off. All this is per my friend that's a regional maintenance rep for TYM. He's the one that recommended this tractor to me in the first place. Mechanical fuel injection vs a common rail system.
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 thank you, David, that is very interesting. Your friend recommended a very good tractor. I have been looking at Kabota for the last couple of years, but not anymore. I believe that engine will outlast the Kabota because the TYM does not eat its own POOP! Good luck with your channel. Thanks again, John.
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Thanks for the video. Do you know what other TYM models have the Kukje engine?
Their 494 has the same engine without the turbocharger. Other than that I don't know.
Reminds me of the older Japanese made massyferguson tractors, like the 1030. Soild, no bs thats not needed. Curious if they have a manual trans options instead of hydro. That would seem even more bullet proof..anyway, nice video!
Thanks for the compliments. They do come with the shuttle shift transmission as well. I find the hydrostatic is more convenient for my purposes as I do a lot of front attachment work with the bucket, grapple, mini tree clip, etc etc. For strictly plowing type work the shuttle shift is a better option in my opinion.
how does the 574 compare to the LS for loader work? i have a T494. what do you call the stuff to put paint marks on bolts? the stuff i got is hard to see. great vidja, i got the kukje for the same reason. the most simple modern tractor engine made.
The 574 beats the LS XR4145 hands down in loader work. It's not even close. I think that is mainly due to the weight difference between the two machines. The TYM is better for loader work also due to the hydrostatic drive instead of my LS's shuttle shift. Lastly, there's simply the beefiness of the TYM vs the LS model I have. The stuff is called Torque Stripe if I'm not mistaken. I'll add an Amazon link in the description section of the video this afternoon.
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What year is this? Torn between a '22 with the Kujke and the '24 with a TYM.
Love the torque stripe idea.
This is the '24 model. Picked it up earlier this year. My background is aviation - particularly helicopters. Torque stripe is a requirement since those machines are constantly trying to self destruct.
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 Awesome, wasn't sure if it has stayed the same. Not sure if it's worth saving a few thousand on a '22 with 350 hours but a 3rd function.
I also appreciate your flail mower video. Would you recommend that Titan one?
I understand! I felt for our neighboring 60's crew chiefs working on those giant flying vibrating machines as we had an easier life on the C130's.
I flew Apaches from '86 to '02. Cobras for a couple of years before that. EMS as a semi-retirement job. I did take some time off to slug it out in the fixed wing world as a Part 121 line captain and training officer flying ATR 42s and 72s for FedEx but dang that was not much fun at all. Nothing like a whirly bird with rockets and missiles and cannons to brighten up your day. :)
Also, I do recommend the Titan for the price point. I'd rather have a gear driven system protected by a slip clutch instead of the belt driven system on the Titan, but I didn't want to pony up the additional money to have that. There's a significant price increase to do that.
If there is no electronic control, then why is there exhaust gas temperature sensors and a differential pressure sensor on the dpf?
There are sensors involved, just not an entire ECU "computer" that controls everything via an electric brain. The number of sensors is thereby significantly reduced. That also reduces the size and complication of the wiring harness. The easiest way to put it is to probably compare an analog system with a totally digital system. The Kukje is as simple an analog system as you can get on a Tier 4 engine. I hope that helps. Perhaps someone can explain it better for us?
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 sensors are for inputs to a controller (computer). There has to be a controller somewhere on it.
A controller isn't always a digital computer. A quick example would be a release valve on a hot water heater. While it does control and prevent an overheat explosion, it certainly doesn't digitally control the water temperature. Trust me when I say to you that there is absolutely positively NOT an electronic control module on the Kukje engine. You will NOT have to have a computer and the associated software program to troubleshoot and diagnose issues with the Kukje engine. I don't know how else to explain it. There's a great video on YT somewhere that discusses the Kukje engine in more detail. Search for videos detailing the difference between it and other Tier 4 engines.
ty nice
Glad you enjoyed it.
Is all their tractor engines non-computer run?
No. They have other engines that are computer driven.
@@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 thank you for the reply, great information new subscriber 👍
@@d123avek1 Glad to have you!
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I gots me one of them there t494 tractor. ten years down the road they claim its easy to delete DPF, they say you have to unplug a data logger, do you know what it looks like?
I'm not advising anyone to do this, but the only source of heat for the kukje dpf is a restrictor plate in the exhaust tube. If you follow it out of the dpf you will see the restrictor over on the left side of the engine. From looking at mine it appears simple enough to remove the entire dpf and go with a straight pipe. Again, I'm not advising anyone to do this. It's just an observation so proceed at your own risk.
I like the specs of the tractor but don't be fooled, the reason those cast housings are so big on the India and Korean built tractors is usually because they are making up for poor quality iron. It works out in the end though, its strong and adds weight to the tractor.
Excellent point! I bought this model tractor for the engine. The weight runs a close second. It makes a world of difference. Where my LS 4145 would basically sit and spin the tires the TYM just plows on thru without a hiccup.
@hiddenacresoutdoors-tracto1510 you'll never go wrong with old school mechanical diesel injection that's for sure!
Exactly.
You can delete it.I have a Branson tractor and I took mine off and put a straight pipe on it.Running up the side of the cab runs fine
Good information to know.
Only thing I don’t like about the air cleaner. It doesn’t have an internal pre-filter inside the main air filter like Kabota or John Deere if I can find another air cleaner assembly from an old John Deere, it’s going on there. I do not like that air cleaner assembly It’s just an accident waiting to happen.
I haven't had any issues as of yet. I do keep the filter clean though. My LS has dual canisters in the filter housing and I haven't noticed any difference between the two machines as far as the amount of stuff they're filtering out. That being said, the cleaner air you can provide to the Kukje is going to do nothing other than improve it's performance and life span.
You can buy an inner filter that fits. I found one