Wow. He could've cut the part when he fell but he actually kept it. Doing that on a video where you explain how to pass a motorcycle driving test takes a lot of courage and self confidence. Thanks for keeping it real (and for the video, of course).
He actually does a very smooth execution of the riders test, which impressed me. Then he dumps the bike turning it around. I had to laugh but I also give him credit for leaving it in.
I so respect the fact that you left the "crash" in the video, even though you could have easily edited it out! Your video not only was super-informative for my wife as to what she should expect when going to the DMV for her driving test, but you also (with great humility!) showed that little crazy accidents happen to us all on a bike - even very skilled and experienced riders such as yourself. The entire video was a confidence booster, and we both appreciate your posting it here. Thanks!
At many of the DMV's in California. People will hang out in the parking lot with highly maneuverable 125cc older bikes. Rent them to you for $50 so that you can pass the riding test. This configuration was designed 50 years ago when bikes were small and nimble. I practiced for 2 hours one night after DMV closed. On a GSX-r 600. Had to go full left lock on the bars to get through the circle and maintaining a low enough speed was a challenge. Was thrilled to pay dude $50 to borrow his old bike and pass the test with zero effort. Like doing it on a bicycle.
The first time I watched one of these CA license tests, my first thought was how it doesn’t seem THAT easy because these modern bikes are huge. But now I know the test was designed when smaller bikes were in use. Good to know.
Thanks for making a great video and being real about how easy it is to do when you’re ready, and for having the humility to leave the crash clip in! It demonstrates how fast things can go south if your trying to do too many things at the same time, like making a video, flying a drone and taking a test in front of tens of thousands of people. Bien fait!
For California, at least i can confirm for San Diego, ( I recently went through the process) you start with the written exam and yes they make you take your class c again as well. If you didn't the dmv fucked up, at least in California. You then have your permit for one year and during that year you can come back at any point and do the actual riding test. They start off by having you identifying different components of your bike ie. Blinkers, clutch, both brakes etc. After that they do serpentine there and back while going through the circle once (front tire can't leave circle and can't put your foot down or it's an immediate fail). Then you do straight line, two circles, and other straight line back (all while staying within the lines). Some places will then after that make you go to the street and upshift and downshift 2 gears in both directions. After that congratulations you have passed.
The restrictions on the California motorcycle permit are still the same as you mentioned. Just got mine in November 2016. It sucks you dropped your bike. Love your channel.
I bought my very first bike 3 days ago, never having ever sat on or ridden a sport bike before... and in the first 20 minutes I dropped it... So to see an 'instructor' accidentally drop their bike makes me feel so much less ridiculous about my fumble 😅 Thanks for the video and showing all the content, the good and the bad c:
The moment I heard Riverside Cali I gave you thumbs up!! I'm sure you film this doring the weekend that DMV is usually has a mile long line. Thanks for the vid ride safe
My brother in law just recently got his motorcycle license. He also took the riding course for about a month, said it was really helpful. He also told me that he had to re take the written test for driving. The person at the DMV told him if you haven't taken the written test with in a six month peroid you would have to re take it based on if your trying to renew your license. Anyways, get video mang! Stay safe :)
I heard that once you enter the circle your back wheel can come off the white line no problem it's your front wheel that needs to stay between the 2 white lines right
Dude, I used this video to prep for my test a couple weeks ago and it definitely helped 👍🏻 I went early and practiced and the guy said I did “really really good” ... hah! Nailed it, thanks for making the video much appreciated
Nice video thanks for the info. I took my test 37 years ago and if I remember correctly I just had to do a figure 8 and ride around a few cones and that was it. Oregon test 1979. I also remember driving myself to the DMV with out a licence and about an hour later I had my licence, it was on my 16th birthday. Got my motorcycle endorsement about six months later.
My favorite part of this video is your at my DMV. Wait. no. My favorite part of this video is you fell at the exact same spot at the exact same DMV at the exact same practice key where I did. Coming back from the key and then just down. It's amazing. I wonder if there's a patch of uneven asphalt there or something, just enough to catch a tire.
Awesome video! You did make it look easy BTW, I have been riding since age 6 and failed it twice in the same day due to putting my foot down, ( I was on my 2002 Ninja 750 at the time, I called it " THE TANK " lol. Any way I do recommend as You did, go to your local DMV and practice on the actual course. Good luck guys and girls! LAAAAAATE!
Same, I’ve been riding long enough where I consider myself confident. The other day I lost a little momentum and put my foot down. I didn’t know it was a rule and was unprepared
As far as "super easy" goes, I think it might depend a lot on the bike. My Vulcan 500 has a very laid back geometry and long wheelbase. So far I've done four 1 hour practice sessions at the local DMV (after closing), and I still have a long way to go to KNOW that I won't mess up, especially under the pressure of the test. A friend has offered to lend me his 150cc Vespa for the test, and another friend offered his 650 enduro. But I'm stubbornly determined to do it on my bike, especially after reading a comment on another video that stated something along the lines of: "If you can't pass the test on the bike you ride, then you shouldn't be riding that bike"...LOL!!
@@stocktonst3 I looked up your bike and the wheelbase is 55.5” (vs 62.8 on Vulcan 500). Obviously a shorter wheelbase is easier to turn. I am happy to report that I passed the test a couple weeks ago! I practiced a total of 25 hours. For me the hardest part was exiting the circle into the narrow lane. I never felt that I could do it every time, due to the long wheelbase. Just keep practicing until you feel really confident, and you’ll be fine. Good luck!
@@HardmanKnott Saw your comment from 3 months ago and then now I see you have passed the test, congrat I have been practicing at the dmv in redwood city ca with my Yamaha maxim 400 but still can't handle it, same as you, friends have offered their bikes but i want to do it in mine, so I will report when I pass the test. ( soon I hope 8-)
@@crissy7503 Keep on practicing. Drag the rear brake, it helps a lot! Also try to sit up straight and let the bike do the leaning. At the Corte Madera DMV the course is on a side slope, which made things tricky! Here’s me practicing a couple months ago: ua-cam.com/video/aljnFHKu56Q/v-deo.html Good luck!
CA also let’s you use any bike/scooter/moped with an engine that’s a minimum of 150cc so if you got a buddy with a motorized scooter that has a 150 in it, use that and you don’t have to worry about doing the upshift/downshift test lol when it came time to do it the instructor didn’t know that the scooter I was using was auto and after I told him he was like “Ohh, we’ll I guess you pass, unless you wanna pretend to have gears and upshift for me” lol super easy test as long as your in smaller bike, I’ve had friends that have been riding for years fail because they pulled up with the 1800 Harley with tires the size of the circle and a tank that made it impossible to turn that tight lol so remember, smaller bike is always better for the test.
I second this , or if you’re a fairly new rider , taking the cmsp (Cali’s version of the MSF) is a huge huge HUGE benefit . Not only will you build some confidence you’ll be able to build trust in your bike ! Knowing that it can take those leans and it wants to lean is a huge calmer for those fairly new ! (One of the things that comes to my mind rn at least ) . Learning from those that have been riding for years and still alive , heck I’d be damn stupid to not listen to any criticism or advice they have to give . Around 425$ (I know ) but in the grand scheme of things what’s 425$ to your life? Because some of those skills taught can make all the difference in whether you make it home that night or police showing up at your doorstep ! Stay safe out there fellow riders
@@carnage1231 I live near my towns dmv and I see guys out there practicing all the time and the major issue with most riders that can’t get it down is they seem to try and use the handlebars to steer like it’s a bicycle, the ones that are wobbly or going over the line almost always have their handlebars moving back and forth because they’re scared to lean and they keep the bike straight up. On most vespa type of scooters and street bikes the handlebars have very minimal movement so when you learn to ride on one of those you learn to lean for turning a lot faster than say a starter bike like a Honda Rebel. If you just lean and keep those handlebars in that little sweet spot it’s very easy, another reason I tell new riders to get a small street bike or scooter before buying that 1100 Harley if they can, just like with anything else learning the basics and getting familiar with riding at a slower, easier pace is gonna help tremendously.
I’m about to take my M1 test on my Rebel 500 and I’m so fucking nervous. Failed it the first time, did practice, but I am absolutely not confident. Guess we’ll see how it goes
The problems I have with this test are that: 1) it does NOT simulate real-world driving conditions. I have never ever seen a road that required me to zigzag or drive in a circle perfectly without putting my foot down. Maybe it simulates driving through an alligator pond? 2) ZERO cars on the road could ever pass that test. A motorcycle has the same traffic laws as cars, but has a MUCH stricter driving test that cars could never pass. Don't we all drive on the same roads? 3) the test is very heavily biased towards smaller and lighter bikes. I'd bet 9/10 people who test on hogs fail, and 9/10 people testing on 150cc dirt bikes pass. It should test driving skill, independent of what type of bike you have. 4) there's zero emphasis on safety. The same stunt riders that will pass most easily are probably the same people I see riding wheelies down the street.
@@mortalmeat9963 but if your plan is to ride a 700 lb Harley, why would you buy a 150 cc just for the test? Its cheaper just to take the MSF. That way you'll learn actual safety tips and learn a bit more about safety, even though that won't simulate real world experience either, its better than this, for sure.
Tbf the MSF is also a very basic test, although slightly better. Probably not too hard to learn how to go around a circle in a hog if you practice. Some of the most impressive low-speed riding I've seen is on giant cruiser bikes by police motorcyclists.
@@codea1273 I'm 25 miles east of this DMV. The closest MSF course that I've seen listed is in Lancaster, almost 100 miles away from my home. Or 100mi South West, where you absolutely need to use the freeway to get there. I'm taking my skills next month on a 625lb cruiser. I just practiced weaving between parking stalls. Practicing u turns in both directions. Also clockwise and counterclockwise circles within 2 and 3 parking space diameter. I only tried the keyhole once, the weaving is simple, and the circle isn't terribly hard. It's all clutch control really. If I took it that day though, I would've failed.
thank you so much for the demostration. im always curious about the driving course , written test shouldnt be a problem and i cant wait to get my scooter LOL. thank you again!!!!
Ha! I took my first California motorcycle test there back in then mid 80's. I think this is the place when I was living in Moreno Valley. Didn't ended up taking the whole skill test. There was so much traffic in the parking lot, so he just let me do one run and passed.
Question, for the skill test, what helmet you need to wear for the test? Full cover, 3/4, half helmet?? Even DMV web does not show any information about the skill test. I need someone who has pass the skill test recently to answer the question. Thanks.
Wow that's simple. Here in the UK and the rest of Europe it's more extensive than that. From no licence to a licence were you can ride any cc bike takes four different tests, a theory done on computer which is a series of questions on the highway code plus a hazard test, then CBT test(off and on road) theory and practical, then a Mod 1 test (on and off road), and finally Mod 2 test (on road). After passing all that and providing you're over 25 then you can ride any cc bike. The expense and drawn out system is putting alot of youngsters off riding. You're talking the best part of £1000 to get your licence. Big difference to you guys.
Hells bells is that it? 😲 Wow, that's it I'm moving Stateside 🤠 Thank you for posting this. I'm a motorcycle instructor in London and you're right, it's a much more complex process here. I have quite a few trainees from the USA and this really helps me to understand why sometimes they can find the UK test so difficult! Thanks man 🤘
I just made sure to find a DMV parking lot that wasn't locked on the weekends. Went over it a few times until I was comfortable then scheduled my test. Easy peasy! Or you can pay for the MSF course and get it that way. 🐢☠
In Texas, the test is basically the same as it is for cars. The difference is that instead of the examiner riding with you, you have to provide a car and driver to follow you and the instructor rides with them. They have you drive through a subdivision and you need to come to a complete stop at the stop signs and signal for the appropriate turns. The examiner will signal for you to turn right or left by way of the number of times he sounds the horn the the "chase car". You don't have to do anything a car wouldn't do and maybe even a little less since there's no parallel parking. The parallel parking portion gets a lot of the kids because they seldom have to parallel park unless they go downtown. What's the diameter of that circle? Looks like it might be a bit tight if you are on a large Harley.
In illinois is a lot different for the road test. We had to do a break test from 20 mph and a complete stop. Another one is the cone skill, taking corners, going over objects like a stick or something. doing a figure eight and going left or right to avoid something if it was in the road. taking left and right turns and something else that im forgetting lol. usually easy to but some people have trouble with the figure eight bc some dont do the clutch control and the hit the breaks and throttle and its all about clutch control. anyways it seems like cali has a better test in away that i like more.
The degree of difficulty of the California test is very much dependent on what you ride! I'm banging on the gas tank trying to do the circle on a 1000cc sport bike!
Do I lay it down like that? Hahaha, good video man I also live in Riverside and Im about to take my test after a year of riding with a permit, thanks for the heads up.
Any new rider, or those who have moved to a larger bike, should watch as many of these types of videos as possible..I've had a bike most of my life. But not a really big one. Now with the 1800cc horse I am riding it's a little different animal than the 1000cc I used to ride..
Yes that's what I was wondering it would be almost impossible for any bike to stay with both wheels in the circle and not come off the line especially the real wheel almost impossible I figured that out, front wheel no problem
Yes you can all you need is a California motorcycle permit and a scooter or motorcycle that is currently registered and you have to show proof of insurance. I got my M1 using a 150cc scooter 2 mondays ago and I already got my CM1 license in the mail today.
It's easy *if* you practice. If you don't practice and just wing it, you will likely fail. When I took it decades ago, I was the only one of my group of 6 testees that had practiced beforehand. So I was the only one who passed, that morning. The other dunderheads who thought they were hot-s**t were proven otherwise. I agree with everything, except I practiced *not* working the clutch (my bike was only 100 cc) and rode the test mostly that way; fine throttle control. But it depends on your bike, whatever gives you maximum low-speed balance and control. Unless you can *easily* pass this ride test, you don't have control of the bike and you're a danger to yourself and others and you shouldn't ride on the street. If you pass, that's just the minimum. The video's final advice, "don't expect anyone else to watch out for you" is very good. It will keep you alive.
I'm 55 got my Motorcycle Endorsement when i was 17 in Texas have always kept the endorsement every re-newal. When I went to get my Cali License when i moved out here all i had to do was the written test for both the car & bike. Have never taken a MSF Course.
i live in the UK, and ours is a right bitch to do, and expensive. its comes in 3 parts, theory, cbt ( Certificate of Basic Training ) and then your full license entitlement test.
3 parts. CBT (Certificate of Basic Training - basic skills and to see if you can handle a bike. THEORY - Sit in a classroom in front of a computer doing observation and safety test. FULL PRACTICAL TEST - This test can determin what cc of bike you will be able to ride. If you do the full access course, then you can ride anything. ( unless the law has changed since i did mine )
Yeah but the full practical is two parts. The bit in the car park with the cones which is significantly more of a pain in the arse than whats shown in the video, then you have to do a ride on the road with an instructor.
Bro nice vid love the drone set up like how you didn’t edit that drop out the video either dumb mistake but shit we all make them right. What helmet set up are you running that shit is sooo dope.
1) what is the helmet you use? where can i order the same? 2) it is not easy ... i just got yamaha V-star and at low speed i am not stable enough to pass the test ... i will need more practice for sure. thank you for showing the requirements!
Thank you for this video. I took the test today and passed. Keeping a constant throttle and back breaking through the circle is key. Thank you for that advise.
So you need to pass the written test first and they give you a permit for 6 months and then within the 6 months you need to do the driving test to get your license? I’m in California
No for California ( I recently went through the process) you start with the written exam and yes they make you take your class c again as well. If you didn't the dmv fucked up, at least in California. You then have your permit for one year and during that year you can come back at any point and do the actual riding test. They start off by having you identifying different components to your ie. Blinkers, clutch, both brakes etc. After that they do serpentine there and back while going through the circle once (front tire can't leave circle and can't put your foot down or it's an immediate fail). Then you do straight line, two circles, and other straight line back (all while staying within the lines). Some places will then after that make you go to the street and upshift and downshift 2 gears in both directions. After that congratulations you have passed.
I remember swerving and doing figure 8ths. Lol do you always use your vest over your jacket? I have a jacket with armor but do you think I should wear my vest it has a chest plate and back plate double armor lol
I've already done a theory(written and observation test) and then a practical to get a full driving license. Then you have to pass another theory test, then mod 1, then mod 2 to get a full bike license. I'm doing my mod 1 next week. A lot more than what the dmv want to see but still all the basics in an off road (car park) environment.
The bike needs to have current registration (doesn't need to be registered to you, hence the people who rent larger cc scooters on Craigslist for you to take the test). Just to clarify you can get insurance once you pass your written permit test in the dmv which most people do before taking the m1. I know this for a fact as I just bought my bike last week and was able to insure it after completing my written test. Hope that helps.
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Respect to you for leaving the drop in the video. There’s two types of riders, those who’ve dropped their bikes, and liars.
Truth.
Ive definitely dropped mine 😭😭😭😭
Never have I dropped my bike, crashed though 10 years ago.
Props for not cutting the drop
Thank you for NOT editing out your minor spill. Very humble and instructive of you to remind us how easy it is to do. Thanks man!
Wow. He could've cut the part when he fell but he actually kept it. Doing that on a video where you explain how to pass a motorcycle driving test takes a lot of courage and self confidence. Thanks for keeping it real (and for the video, of course).
He actually does a very smooth execution of the riders test, which impressed me. Then he dumps the bike turning it around. I had to laugh but I also give him credit for leaving it in.
#CommitToTheUpload
Yeah oddly enough the engine had a hiccup while I was turning. Never happened before or since. Lol
You forgot to mention, if you drop the bike at any point you automatically fail. My friend you failed lol
right 😂😂😂 but thanks for showing us 😀👍🏻
Thank you for keeping that fall in the video. That's the sign of a very humble man.
See how easy it is? * stalls and falls
I thought it was the oil stain/puddle that is right there
LMAO man
LOL
Lmfao
I so respect the fact that you left the "crash" in the video, even though you could have easily edited it out! Your video not only was super-informative for my wife as to what she should expect when going to the DMV for her driving test, but you also (with great humility!) showed that little crazy accidents happen to us all on a bike - even very skilled and experienced riders such as yourself. The entire video was a confidence booster, and we both appreciate your posting it here. Thanks!
Glad to help. It was a freak incident where the motor simply quit when least expected. First time that ever happened.
Respect to you for leaving that fall in.
At many of the DMV's in California. People will hang out in the parking lot with highly maneuverable 125cc older bikes. Rent them to you for $50 so that you can pass the riding test. This configuration was designed 50 years ago when bikes were small and nimble. I practiced for 2 hours one night after DMV closed. On a GSX-r 600. Had to go full left lock on the bars to get through the circle and maintaining a low enough speed was a challenge. Was thrilled to pay dude $50 to borrow his old bike and pass the test with zero effort. Like doing it on a bicycle.
The first time I watched one of these CA license tests, my first thought was how it doesn’t seem THAT easy because these modern bikes are huge. But now I know the test was designed when smaller bikes were in use. Good to know.
@@baronvg i saw a good doing the test on a fuckin huge harley I was like bro even the test admin was sayin this guy is either a fool or a real G
Knucks, Pans and shovels were not small bikes .
Thanks for making a great video and being real about how easy it is to do when you’re ready, and for having the humility to leave the crash clip in! It demonstrates how fast things can go south if your trying to do too many things at the same time, like making a video, flying a drone and taking a test in front of tens of thousands of people. Bien fait!
Thanks Brent. Yeah the fall over was from the engine having a hiccup when I wasn't ready
This video helped me pass on the first try yesterday so thank you sir for making it. You saved me time and money.
For California, at least i can confirm for San Diego, ( I recently went through the process) you start with the written exam and yes they make you take your class c again as well. If you didn't the dmv fucked up, at least in California. You then have your permit for one year and during that year you can come back at any point and do the actual riding test. They start off by having you identifying different components of your bike ie. Blinkers, clutch, both brakes etc. After that they do serpentine there and back while going through the circle once (front tire can't leave circle and can't put your foot down or it's an immediate fail). Then you do straight line, two circles, and other straight line back (all while staying within the lines). Some places will then after that make you go to the street and upshift and downshift 2 gears in both directions. After that congratulations you have passed.
Just took my permit test and they didn’t make me retake my Cdl. Guess things change often
@@donovanmolina5857 Same for me as well, did not have to re-do class C.
Just took mine and had to take the CDL again
I have cdl and i did not have to retake cdl or class c test at all. Only motorcycle test. I think yall being abused by a dmv worker having a bad day.
Just got my permit in north county San Diego (two weeks ago) and did not have to retake class C
Nothing wrong with dropping. Learn from your mistakes get back up and keep going. #kudos to leaving it in.
never thought id hear "legendary" and "riverside" in the same sentence
Lol
love the fact that you left your dropping the bike IN the video! Real. check out at 2;29. Thanks
The restrictions on the California motorcycle permit are still the same as you mentioned. Just got mine in November 2016. It sucks you dropped your bike. Love your channel.
I bought my very first bike 3 days ago, never having ever sat on or ridden a sport bike before... and in the first 20 minutes I dropped it... So to see an 'instructor' accidentally drop their bike makes me feel so much less ridiculous about my fumble 😅 Thanks for the video and showing all the content, the good and the bad c:
yeah the motor actually hiccupped, putting me to the ground
The moment I heard Riverside Cali I gave you thumbs up!! I'm sure you film this doring the weekend that DMV is usually has a mile long line. Thanks for the vid ride safe
😂😂 is my man here going to the moon or something??
My brother in law just recently got his motorcycle license. He also took the riding course for about a month, said it was really helpful. He also told me that he had to re take the written test for driving. The person at the DMV told him if you haven't taken the written test with in a six month peroid you would have to re take it based on if your trying to renew your license. Anyways, get video mang! Stay safe :)
Thanks DCE. you too, bud. MP
I heard that once you enter the circle your back wheel can come off the white line no problem it's your front wheel that needs to stay between the 2 white lines right
Yes
Dude, I used this video to prep for my test a couple weeks ago and it definitely helped 👍🏻 I went early and practiced and the guy said I did “really really good” ... hah! Nailed it, thanks for making the video much appreciated
Luke B. Hey thats awesome. Happy to help
idk why you’re getting so much hate. the video is informative and everyone makes mistakes lol
It's because of his gear, like wtf is that. People get scared and afraid.
it looks stupid@@MorellioBenoir
As you can see you guys it’s that easy! I just dropped my bike but hey passed the test 😂🤷🏻♂️
Nice video thanks for the info. I took my test 37 years ago and if I remember correctly I just had to do a figure 8 and ride around a few cones and that was it. Oregon test 1979. I also remember driving myself to the DMV with out a licence and about an hour later I had my licence, it was on my 16th birthday. Got my motorcycle endorsement about six months later.
Is dropping the bike on the test?
He wouldve failed lol dropping the bike or stalling is automatic fail
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My favorite part of this video is your at my DMV. Wait. no. My favorite part of this video is you fell at the exact same spot at the exact same DMV at the exact same practice key where I did. Coming back from the key and then just down. It's amazing. I wonder if there's a patch of uneven asphalt there or something, just enough to catch a tire.
Looks like the course is made for little bikes. Not big touring ones.
LOL! I took that test on the same Riverside course about 50 years ago. Nothing has changed.
Thanks for the video..i just passed my! Very easy test! Just like you said. Work your clutch nice n slow, ride rear brake,
I think it's cool you didn't edit out the drop! All been there! :) Good video dude!
Love how didn't edit falling off your bike. I may take a course instead.
Awesome video! You did make it look easy BTW, I have been riding since age 6 and failed it twice in the same day due to putting my foot down, ( I was on my 2002 Ninja 750 at the time, I called it " THE TANK " lol. Any way I do recommend as You did, go to your local DMV and practice on the actual course. Good luck guys and girls! LAAAAAATE!
Same, I’ve been riding long enough where I consider myself confident. The other day I lost a little momentum and put my foot down. I didn’t know it was a rule and was unprepared
If you fall during the test (like in 2:28) will you be automatically failed?
As far as "super easy" goes, I think it might depend a lot on the bike. My Vulcan 500 has a very laid back geometry and long wheelbase. So far I've done four 1 hour practice sessions at the local DMV (after closing), and I still have a long way to go to KNOW that I won't mess up, especially under the pressure of the test. A friend has offered to lend me his 150cc Vespa for the test, and another friend offered his 650 enduro. But I'm stubbornly determined to do it on my bike, especially after reading a comment on another video that stated something along the lines of: "If you can't pass the test on the bike you ride, then you shouldn't be riding that bike"...LOL!!
im practicing on my cbr500r im not giving any gas just clutch and it going pretty nice i just wanna master it before test time
@@stocktonst3 I looked up your bike and the wheelbase is 55.5” (vs 62.8 on Vulcan 500). Obviously a shorter wheelbase is easier to turn. I am happy to report that I passed the test a couple weeks ago! I practiced a total of 25 hours. For me the hardest part was exiting the circle into the narrow lane. I never felt that I could do it every time, due to the long wheelbase. Just keep practicing until you feel really confident, and you’ll be fine. Good luck!
@@HardmanKnott Saw your comment from 3 months ago and then now I see you have passed the test, congrat
I have been practicing at the dmv in redwood city ca with my Yamaha maxim 400 but still can't handle it, same as you, friends have offered their bikes but i want to do it in mine, so I will report when I pass the test. ( soon I hope 8-)
@@crissy7503 Keep on practicing. Drag the rear brake, it helps a lot! Also try to sit up straight and let the bike do the leaning. At the Corte Madera DMV the course is on a side slope, which made things tricky! Here’s me practicing a couple months ago: ua-cam.com/video/aljnFHKu56Q/v-deo.html
Good luck!
@@HardmanKnott but isn't this supposed to test whether we're competent to ride on the road? If we need to practice 25 hours, isn't the test flawed?
i'm so glad you're in riverside too. i was crazy worried about it.
Enrique Flores same here
CA also let’s you use any bike/scooter/moped with an engine that’s a minimum of 150cc so if you got a buddy with a motorized scooter that has a 150 in it, use that and you don’t have to worry about doing the upshift/downshift test lol when it came time to do it the instructor didn’t know that the scooter I was using was auto and after I told him he was like “Ohh, we’ll I guess you pass, unless you wanna pretend to have gears and upshift for me” lol super easy test as long as your in smaller bike, I’ve had friends that have been riding for years fail because they pulled up with the 1800 Harley with tires the size of the circle and a tank that made it impossible to turn that tight lol so remember, smaller bike is always better for the test.
This is smart. Appreciate this a lot.
I second this , or if you’re a fairly new rider , taking the cmsp (Cali’s version of the MSF) is a huge huge HUGE benefit . Not only will you build some confidence you’ll be able to build trust in your bike ! Knowing that it can take those leans and it wants to lean is a huge calmer for those fairly new ! (One of the things that comes to my mind rn at least ) . Learning from those that have been riding for years and still alive , heck I’d be damn stupid to not listen to any criticism or advice they have to give . Around 425$ (I know ) but in the grand scheme of things what’s 425$ to your life? Because some of those skills taught can make all the difference in whether you make it home that night or police showing up at your doorstep ! Stay safe out there fellow riders
@@carnage1231 I live near my towns dmv and I see guys out there practicing all the time and the major issue with most riders that can’t get it down is they seem to try and use the handlebars to steer like it’s a bicycle, the ones that are wobbly or going over the line almost always have their handlebars moving back and forth because they’re scared to lean and they keep the bike straight up. On most vespa type of scooters and street bikes the handlebars have very minimal movement so when you learn to ride on one of those you learn to lean for turning a lot faster than say a starter bike like a Honda Rebel. If you just lean and keep those handlebars in that little sweet spot it’s very easy, another reason I tell new riders to get a small street bike or scooter before buying that 1100 Harley if they can, just like with anything else learning the basics and getting familiar with riding at a slower, easier pace is gonna help tremendously.
I’m about to take my M1 test on my Rebel 500 and I’m so fucking nervous. Failed it the first time, did practice, but I am absolutely not confident. Guess we’ll see how it goes
Practice builds confidence. Thanks for watching! MP
The problems I have with this test are that:
1) it does NOT simulate real-world driving conditions. I have never ever seen a road that required me to zigzag or drive in a circle perfectly without putting my foot down. Maybe it simulates driving through an alligator pond?
2) ZERO cars on the road could ever pass that test. A motorcycle has the same traffic laws as cars, but has a MUCH stricter driving test that cars could never pass. Don't we all drive on the same roads?
3) the test is very heavily biased towards smaller and lighter bikes. I'd bet 9/10 people who test on hogs fail, and 9/10 people testing on 150cc dirt bikes pass. It should test driving skill, independent of what type of bike you have.
4) there's zero emphasis on safety. The same stunt riders that will pass most easily are probably the same people I see riding wheelies down the street.
So true 150cc bikes can easily pass this test
@@mortalmeat9963 but if your plan is to ride a 700 lb Harley, why would you buy a 150 cc just for the test? Its cheaper just to take the MSF. That way you'll learn actual safety tips and learn a bit more about safety, even though that won't simulate real world experience either, its better than this, for sure.
It is mainly designed to see if you can handle a bike. It is easier to ride 80 down a highway than make a tight u turn at 10 mph.
Tbf the MSF is also a very basic test, although slightly better. Probably not too hard to learn how to go around a circle in a hog if you practice. Some of the most impressive low-speed riding I've seen is on giant cruiser bikes by police motorcyclists.
@@codea1273 I'm 25 miles east of this DMV. The closest MSF course that I've seen listed is in Lancaster, almost 100 miles away from my home. Or 100mi South West, where you absolutely need to use the freeway to get there.
I'm taking my skills next month on a 625lb cruiser. I just practiced weaving between parking stalls. Practicing u turns in both directions. Also clockwise and counterclockwise circles within 2 and 3 parking space diameter.
I only tried the keyhole once, the weaving is simple, and the circle isn't terribly hard. It's all clutch control really. If I took it that day though, I would've failed.
thank you so much for the demostration. im always curious about the driving course , written test shouldnt be a problem and i cant wait to get my scooter LOL. thank you again!!!!
Ha! I took my first California motorcycle test there back in then mid 80's. I think this is the place when I was living in Moreno Valley. Didn't ended up taking the whole skill test. There was so much traffic in the parking lot, so he just let me do one run and passed.
Question, for the skill test, what helmet you need to wear for the test? Full cover, 3/4, half helmet?? Even DMV web does not show any information about the skill test. I need someone who has pass the skill test recently to answer the question. Thanks.
Taking this on my 750. A little nervous for the circle since this bike is so heavy. Wish me luck
how'd it go?
I hope your bike is ok! I can't believe that's it! Thank you so much for this video.
Wow that's simple. Here in the UK and the rest of Europe it's more extensive than that.
From no licence to a licence were you can ride any cc bike takes four different tests, a theory done on computer which is a series of questions on the highway code plus a hazard test, then CBT test(off and on road) theory and practical, then a Mod 1 test (on and off road), and finally Mod 2 test (on road). After passing all that and providing you're over 25 then you can ride any cc bike. The expense and drawn out system is putting alot of youngsters off riding. You're talking the best part of £1000 to get your licence. Big difference to you guys.
It's basically the Slalom into the figure of 8 without the top half of the eight xD this DMV test feels like a mockery
Hells bells is that it? 😲 Wow, that's it I'm moving Stateside 🤠 Thank you for posting this. I'm a motorcycle instructor in London and you're right, it's a much more complex process here. I have quite a few trainees from the USA and this really helps me to understand why sometimes they can find the UK test so difficult! Thanks man 🤘
Thanks for the video. I am planning on testing at that exact location.
Excellent footage , Thanks for taking the time to share
In Idaho there is no riders test, just a written test. If you want to go on the interstate you take that STAR course which is free.
One missing element: accelerate between the straight lines, upshift then downshift, then enter the circle for the left-hand turns. (2021 standards)
Just had to subscribe cause of your amazing helmet and helmet setup!
I just made sure to find a DMV parking lot that wasn't locked on the weekends. Went over it a few times until I was comfortable then scheduled my test. Easy peasy! Or you can pay for the MSF course and get it that way. 🐢☠
Smart man! MP
In Texas, the test is basically the same as it is for cars. The difference is that instead of the examiner riding with you, you have to provide a car and driver to follow you and the instructor rides with them. They have you drive through a subdivision and you need to come to a complete stop at the stop signs and signal for the appropriate turns. The examiner will signal for you to turn right or left by way of the number of times he sounds the horn the the "chase car". You don't have to do anything a car wouldn't do and maybe even a little less since there's no parallel parking. The parallel parking portion gets a lot of the kids because they seldom have to parallel park unless they go downtown.
What's the diameter of that circle? Looks like it might be a bit tight if you are on a large Harley.
brother where did you get the helmet with the pilot oxygen
If you take the MSF course in Texas you don't even need to do anything at the DMV. The final test for the MSF was extremely easy.
2 tight counter-weighting circles, a quick evade, S curve, and quick stop. (And an easy written test)
LOL. I remember the circle to be a lot smaller 20 years ago. I remember the lady shouting at me to slow down.
That drop was epic
I was just practicing at this exact dmv yesterday!
lmao kinda funny how you drop your bike during a demonstration on "how easy" it is xD
How perfect that I find this video and I live in Riverside California
Totally perfect! Thanks for watching! MP
Oh, Yes, this is the one I was looking for .... thanks for your information. Great job.
This is where I'm taking my test next week lol
I fell the same way haha, I'll have my skill test next week, wish me luck 🙌
Cassiuzz Arles did you pass????
Yes! It was pretty easy! I practice 1 hr before the test. :L)
Congrats bro!
CrazyCrambits Thanks braou!!!
In illinois is a lot different for the road test. We had to do a break test from 20 mph and a complete stop. Another one is the cone skill, taking corners, going over objects like a stick or something. doing a figure eight and going left or right to avoid something if it was in the road. taking left and right turns and something else that im forgetting lol. usually easy to but some people have trouble with the figure eight bc some dont do the clutch control and the hit the breaks and throttle and its all about clutch control. anyways it seems like cali has a better test in away that i like more.
If you drop your bike its a fail of the test
Cool helmet, you look like a fighter jet pilot.... I want one !!!
Nice job. I have an automatic Amigo 150cc that I can’t see the front wheel.
Thank you so much for this video. Great job.
I thought you also had to demonstrate shifting, like a 1st - 2nd -3rd -2nd -1st run in a controlled line ?
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think they do that anymore.
The degree of difficulty of the California test is very much dependent on what you ride! I'm banging on the gas tank trying to do the circle on a 1000cc sport bike!
Do I lay it down like that? Hahaha, good video man I also live in Riverside and Im about to take my test after a year of riding with a permit, thanks for the heads up.
Limitations are still tge same. No ridint at night. No freeways no passenger unless they hav license or is an instructor
Any new rider, or those who have moved to a larger bike, should watch as many of these types of videos as possible..I've had a bike most of my life. But not a really big one. Now with the 1800cc horse I am riding it's a little different animal than the 1000cc I used to ride..
How far apart are those cones placed? In meters?
Noel Morelli 12 feet or 3.66 meters
@@HardmanKnott thank you
I’m curious does both wheels have to stay within circle or just front wheel?
Yes that's what I was wondering it would be almost impossible for any bike to stay with both wheels in the circle and not come off the line especially the real wheel almost impossible I figured that out, front wheel no problem
badass helmet man i like it... looks like something i would wear if i had a bike
Just wondering. Can I do the riding test without bringing someone that has the m1 license?
Yes you can all you need is a California motorcycle permit and a scooter or motorcycle that is currently registered and you have to show proof of insurance. I got my M1 using a 150cc scooter 2 mondays ago and I already got my CM1 license in the mail today.
It's easy *if* you practice. If you don't practice and just wing it, you will likely fail.
When I took it decades ago, I was the only one of my group of 6 testees that had practiced beforehand. So I was the only one who passed, that morning. The other dunderheads who thought they were hot-s**t were proven otherwise.
I agree with everything, except I practiced *not* working the clutch (my bike was only 100 cc) and rode the test mostly that way; fine throttle control. But it depends on your bike, whatever gives you maximum low-speed balance and control.
Unless you can *easily* pass this ride test, you don't have control of the bike and you're a danger to yourself and others and you shouldn't ride on the street. If you pass, that's just the minimum.
The video's final advice, "don't expect anyone else to watch out for you" is very good. It will keep you alive.
I'm 55 got my Motorcycle Endorsement when i was 17 in Texas have always kept the endorsement every re-newal. When I went to get my Cali License when i moved out here all i had to do was the written test for both the car & bike. Have never taken a MSF Course.
Unfortunately, the DMV in Lincoln Heights (where I got my regular Class C) gets locked up and fenced off on off days lol
the key is, just go practice on it 1 hour before they close. most of the employees are too tired to deal with crap and just want to go home lol
i live in the UK, and ours is a right bitch to do, and expensive. its comes in 3 parts, theory, cbt ( Certificate of Basic Training ) and then your full license entitlement test.
it must be 4? The skills course and then the on road practical?
3 parts. CBT (Certificate of Basic Training - basic skills and to see if you can handle a bike. THEORY - Sit in a classroom in front of a computer doing observation and safety test. FULL PRACTICAL TEST - This test can determin what cc of bike you will be able to ride. If you do the full access course, then you can ride anything. ( unless the law has changed since i did mine )
Yeah but the full practical is two parts. The bit in the car park with the cones which is significantly more of a pain in the arse than whats shown in the video, then you have to do a ride on the road with an instructor.
It must of changed a bit since i did mine then.
Bro nice vid love the drone set up like how you didn’t edit that drop out the video either dumb mistake but shit we all make them right. What helmet set up are you running that shit is sooo dope.
Anyone know the measurments between cones and radius of the circle? Wanna help a buddy out get better prepared for this
12 ft between cones, 12 ft radius of circle
@@2capote Thanks
1) what is the helmet you use? where can i order the same?
2) it is not easy ... i just got yamaha V-star and at low speed i am not stable enough to pass the test ... i will need more practice for sure. thank you for showing the requirements!
Bruh. What are you wearing 🤦🏽♂️
Where did u get your helmet/gas mask, looks super cool
I have my practical tomorrow. Hope I pass.
Did you pass??
Thank you for this video. I took the test today and passed. Keeping a constant throttle and back breaking through the circle is key. Thank you for that advise.
Huge congrats
do you know the diameter of the circles? I'd like to draw this out with chalk and practice at home.The spacing between the cones would be nice too
cones are 12ft apart. diameter of circle is 24 ft
Outer or inner circle?
Mark W Gundert outer is 24’, and inner is 22’
Can you take the test with an automatic or do they specifically require a manual?
I don't think it matters. But not 100%. MP
That's the DMV off Brockton. Thanks for the video
Sho nuff!
MOTO PILOT I E for the win
So you need to pass the written test first and they give you a permit for 6 months and then within the 6 months you need to do the driving test to get your license? I’m in California
Actually for one full year.
From what I read that’s only if you’re under 21 though right?
No for California ( I recently went through the process) you start with the written exam and yes they make you take your class c again as well. If you didn't the dmv fucked up, at least in California. You then have your permit for one year and during that year you can come back at any point and do the actual riding test. They start off by having you identifying different components to your ie. Blinkers, clutch, both brakes etc. After that they do serpentine there and back while going through the circle once (front tire can't leave circle and can't put your foot down or it's an immediate fail). Then you do straight line, two circles, and other straight line back (all while staying within the lines). Some places will then after that make you go to the street and upshift and downshift 2 gears in both directions. After that congratulations you have passed.
@@BrandonCochran-dl6vr Wow thanks for all the info🙏 Appreciate it
@@2r380 good luck brother!
I remember swerving and doing figure 8ths. Lol do you always use your vest over your jacket? I have a jacket with armor but do you think I should wear my vest it has a chest plate and back plate double armor lol
In the UK we have a Mod 1 test which has a bit more than this DMV test
Pod Rider yer ment same sort thing lol i did mod 1 mod 2 only past last year
Haigh08 Les aww I passed my test last year too! A2 though xD
Pod Rider same 👍
I've already done a theory(written and observation test) and then a practical to get a full driving license.
Then you have to pass another theory test, then mod 1, then mod 2 to get a full bike license.
I'm doing my mod 1 next week. A lot more than what the dmv want to see but still all the basics in an off road (car park) environment.
TheFakeAssassin in uk ?
do you need to show registration of bike and Insurance or no ?
Well they see bikes as vehicles so yeah you most certainly will have to show proof of insurance and what have you.
Davin Da Geek well the thing is you cant insure a motorcycle witouth m class licence.
Yeah that kinda goes without saying. You need a license for car insurance as well.
The bike needs to have current registration (doesn't need to be registered to you, hence the people who rent larger cc scooters on Craigslist for you to take the test). Just to clarify you can get insurance once you pass your written permit test in the dmv which most people do before taking the m1. I know this for a fact as I just bought my bike last week and was able to insure it after completing my written test. Hope that helps.
Matthew Schueneman it does help thank you I'm making my argument to do my riding test already.
Respect for leaving the part where you dropped the bike. lol i wouldve def edited that out. or canceled the whole video.