Laptops are probably one of the technological areas that have regressed the most in recent years when it comes to upgradeability and IO. My most recent laptop is from 2015 if I remember correctly. It isn't a particularly high-performance model or anything (it has a celeron for a processor), but despite that it still featured upgradeable ram, wlan, storage bay and a dvd drive. I've changed out my dvd drive for an additional hard drive in a caddy. I will however switch it back whenever I need to use some optical media. It's not hot-swappable, but it isn't a hassle either. Furthermore, it also had, what used to be, a normal amount of IO. Seriously, what's up with modern electronics and a severe lack of IO? Modern TVs are even worse. Are you supposed to just throw out all your old stuff or keep an old TV around? Or are you supposed to buy those signal converter boxes from brands you've never heard of, that are questionable at best?
And now celeron laptops mostly just have a very tiny motherboard with all the RAM, storage, and wifi module soldered to the board, so if only one of them get malfunctioned, you need to replace the whole motherboard (which costs almost as high as the new laptop itself)
Hey, back in 2000s almost everything was upgradable. Most common thing I remember is big door on the bottom of laptop case that gave access to HDD, RAM, CPU, optical drive and expansion cards like wifi. Even more recent laptops have those - like Dell E7470 that I use as my main machine. LCD expansion function was very common on Pentim I/II machines (especially IBMs and Toshibas).
I have a Dell from around 2016 that still allows easy access to the RAM and hard drive. Upgradability still somewhat exists, but CPU upgrades are pretty much dead since AMD and Intel don't offer sockets anymore.
the current stuff is made non upgradable because the majority of people want the slimmest laptop and electronics, example smartphgons with camera hump which i find stupid, why cant they make the whole device 2mm thicker and have a larger batter and have no hump but because modern sheeple only are after slim devices they make it less upgradable and less connective example no sd card slot, no usb slot, no ethernet slot, forcing you to have a bunch of dongles because the laptop is 1.5mm too thin to fit a regular sized ethernet port, and because of all these dongles it makes the device even more bulky.
@@ainzooalgown7589 companies are cutting their costs, loosing functionality; customers are demanding more swanky form factors, reducing brands that cater to them to wither out. Only big companies with enough cash can survive🤷🏿♂️ Technologies are never made to last, so why ponder about nitty gritty of company policies. Brands die and new ones always emerge in free markets. Let's enjoy what we have today. Carpedium!
The ThinkPad T440p is nearly as easy, 2 screws come off the bottom and then the cover slides off revealing just about everything (RAM, storage, CPU, optical drive, wireless card, etc), however you still have to loosen the screws and unplug the cooling assembly before you can replace the processor. I miss the upgradeability of these older laptops. Great video!
But not all Thinkpads😂😂 Lenovo locked the upgradability by white list in BIOS😢 For example, my G500 (unable to upgrade the trash wifi adapter, still no mod version of BIOS released) and Thinkpad R61i (sata is also limited to sata I, but now is unlocked by the mod version of BIOS on the Internet.)😢😢
Nice one, was similarly surprised how upgradable my Inspiron 8100 was - the graphics card was also replacable, and it accepted the card and display panel from my somewhat broken Latitude C840. Went from a 1400x1050 display and Geforce2Go 16MB to a 1600x1200 display and GeForce 4 440 Go 64MB, and couple that with a 1.2GHz PIII-M upgrade, it's now an insane Windows 98/ME system! Only 4 screws and a somewhat annoying retention bar to upgrade the CPU, and a further 4 for the GPU.
i have toshiba satellite a200 (since 2005) work fine without any single problem, at 2017 i bought hp pavilion notebook 15, the motherboard failed after 1 year and half, since the cpu is soldered directly into the motherboard, i couldn't save it and a new motherboard is double the price ..., the toshiba satellite at the other hand have everything replacable, even the old gpu, its just sad
I bought my Lenovo Thinkpad T420 in 2013 and it has doors on the bottom to upgrade Cd/RAM/Wifi and it has Express ports, You can change the CPU but you have to open up the case to do it which is not hard. So you can change an i5 for an i7. What I miss most about old laptops is removing the battery
My Acer Aspire 5742G from 2009-2010 also has a removable CPU and its on i7 3rd gen, but that Laptop only supports up to 8GB DDR3 ram Which is kinda disappointing. I still have that Laptop, but the battery isn't charging and some of the keys are gone. What i like about that Laptop is it's on Official Windows 7 Pro and got a Beta Test for Windows 10 pro when it was first officially released to the public.
Celeron M also doesn't have Speedstep fonctionnality. Another laptop easy to Upgrade is the Acer Extensa 4000 series (or aspire 1690) only 5screws to change the cpu.
I've heard a lot of positive stories and experiences people had with Vista. Really does seem like the issues were just a launch thing and had been mostly cleaned up by 2008. Only real criticism I have for it would be the high system requirements.
USB 4 and thunderbolt have the same idea, just implemented in a worse way. expresscard has PCI, those have PCIe it's a newer version of the same thing essentially. EC used to be the fastest way to transfer data out of the PC
They really don't make em like they used to... My almost 10 year old Thinkpad T440P to this day still gets me through a lot of work. Never letting go of that beast. Trying to find an i7 4700MQ to swap out the stock i5. Literally everything else in my laptop has been swapped out lol. Really hope we'll get laptops like this again someday. Great video dude!
You've found another Thinkpad fan using another T440p ! Though mine comes with an i7 cpu in her factory settings. Perhaps I can help you get an i7 4700MQ for an upgrade?
@@Francis_UD hello fellow Thinkpad enjoyer! You're a lucky guy if you got that i7 stock dude. I live in Sri Lanka, so getting niche tech like an i7 4700MQ is a bit of a problem. If you'd know any suppliers that deliver here, I would be indebted to you for life!
I'm rocking a 2011 Probook 4430s myself. Came stock with 8 gb ram, 500 gb HDD, and an i5 on Windows 7. Presently she is running (slowly) Windows 10. Still rocking all-original parts. She is slated for a new 1tb SSD, 16 GB RAM, and an i7 2630qm, as well as a new bluetooth card and wireless upgrade. That sucker got beat on with gaming for a number of years, and got me through an EMS course before she really started to slow down. CPU is supposed to arrive in about a week and she'll be running faster than she did new. My favorite part is how easy it is to open the case up, the entire underside is just one big panel. Push two little tabs, battery pops loose. Push them again and slide the panel to reveal the internals. 10-second job.
I have a big notebook that has the same kind of cooler design. But it supports Desktop Pentium 4 CPUs. Pretty interesting to see that inside a notebook.
I had a Fujitsu Lifebook back in 2004, it had almost the same upgradability options aside from the CPU access which you need to tear down the laptop itself. but since it did not have Wifi Capability, back in the day, I purchased about 3 PCMCIA Express Expansion cards, 1 for Wifi, 1 for Bluetooth, and the other was a 4 Port USB 2.0 but what i loved the most about it is: 1. even when it just had a Pentium 4 M 3.0 HT, it out done the Desktop PC my family had at the time which was up to spec running Dual Core 3.0 CPU. 2. it had a small LCD screen with a few buttons mainly to be used as a Media Player control. with that said even if the LCD was closed, you had the capacity to play Music using the LCD and Player controls which was not covered by the LCD Screen and even see which was playing with that small screen.
Not all. For example the Thinkpad T430 is upgradeable, but not the T430s/x230 - all have M series processors.. But yes, I believe you are right in that the last use 4th gen Ms like the Dell E6440 / Thinkpad T440P.
and even on some laptops you can replace the gpu in laptops that use the MXM connector (Mobile PCI Express Module) a bit rare nowadays. also some were limited because of PC's biso proprietary junk that the OEMs used and on older dells they used i don't know what it called it was some kind of mini AGP or some other proprietary connector.
Amazing, I have a costumer that bring me this laptop today. Beautiful dinosaur from 2006 working as the first day. I'm going to put an SSD inside with 2gb ram to see how the computer works. Beatiful video, beautiful dell, beautiful everything!
ACER (back on the CELERON era) used one big cover that you can take off givving access to all memory wifi and CPU. The opening is big enough to take cooler and heatpipe .... which is good since allows more in depth cleaning
Today's notebook is all in one, If it's not working, check the purchase date. Over 2 years, throw it away or find a shop with trade in bad computer. That 's nothing U can do. Replace a new CPU ??? digital Engineer
I hate sounding like a boomer but, they never make them like they used to anymore. So much e-waste. So much personality stripped from products. Into meaningless gadgets that don't even do what you want. Fixing a product cost more than buying the product itself. It's such bullshit in this world.
I've kept my 2010 Dell Precision M4500 pretty up to date due to expansion. I still use it, it's been on and running almost every single day since I got it.
nice! i have an ipsiron 6400, discreteradeon gpu and an upgraded core 2 duo @ 2.3 GHz(i think), upgraded to 4G ram ddr2/800, yes its slow with windows 10, but great for a linux box. screen is beautiful 15" great keyboard, great speakers and yes, the hinge works beatufully still
UA-cam really got bloated over the years, I remember being able to play 720p without any frame drops in 2010-11 when I stopped using my old Toshiba Satellite with similar Celeron, and moreso I remember playing 240p UA-cam on Pentium II 400MHz laptop around 2009 and it worked pretty well.
Yep, UA-cam worked just fine back in 2015 or so on all my old hardware. The modern player really is terrible and inefficient by comparison, not to mention that navigation is horrible too.
They’re using different video codec now, and it’s not bloated, even 720 P video is getting higher quality, codec, that require more CPU horsepower because the video is more compressed.
@@BrianMartin2007 they changed the codec but these laptops can't decode with gpu acceleration support, only cpu. they used to decode easier while it was flv or h264
Put an ssd on it it will boost the performance much mostly on such low system, also remove the DVD roon, and install a second like an optane disk used to boost startup and paging
Everyone be talking 'bout framework n stuff but this dude right here is more upgradable and easier to maintain than any computer ever coming out ma guy. Linus' investment is endangered by this.
yep, thats dell. They always had good expandability and reparability on their laptops until they started using proprietary parts and crappy designs. I cant say the same for HP in the same time period. They had the same socketed things, but they made you take the entire chassis apart to get to them. I had to remove the motherboard to replace the cpu, and the hard drive is requires the whole thing to come apart. Props to dell for keeping it easy.
My first AT&T 486 laptop had the 1.44 meg floppy no sound card, no modem and only ONE PCMCIA slot. So I could either use the sound expansion or my 14.4 fax modem expansion to dial into AOL. I could not WAIT to get a pentium 100 laptop with TWO PCMCIA slots.... Of course laptops started coming with modems and sound cards built right in and I no longer needed the expansion slots. Though there is still one computer at work that needs the slot for a dedicated PLC communication. Oh how our tech changes! Great review!
I actually scrapped one of these recently; the doors on the underside were all missing or broken so reusing it wouldn't have been realistic. I was thoroughly impressed by the build quality though. I think the hinges were actually just incredibly solid; mine had had a lot of use and they still felt amazing. The only complaint I would have levelled at it was that it didn't use the standard Dell charging port.
I'd be curious to see you try some different ram modules in there to see if you could improve the speed, or at least see some improved timings and if there is a measurable difference.
Just make sure the clock frequencies are both compatible and same if you're adding multiple ddr2's. I'd first find out the CPU data sheet and check if both the motherboard and CPU can handle it.
I have a 2013 Dell Precision M6700, the socketed CPU and GPU cards are upgradable, it also has multiple storage bays for expansion. I am using it as a daily device at work and running Win 10. The Quadro K5000m is still doing a decent job for everything but modern video production encoding/decoding. I personally replaced the 3rd gen dual core I7 for the 4-core version.
a M6700 owner here, mine is K4000M with i7-3740qm. It really a fun using that, the keyboard feeling is just amazing. I also have a Lenovo ideapad G780, I got it with base-spec like no OS, 2nd gen i3 then I upgraded to a 3610qm, 8GB RAM and it serves well even till now rocking with windows 11 22h2. With a cheap SSD like BX500 it boots even faster than my 2021 OMEN 16 which is crazy....
@@shinya1215 It is crazy, the 6700 is much faster than the company provided new laptop. The only thing holding it back is a lack of updated GPU cards for it. There is no reason that W11 cannot be installed with the TPM workaround except I loathe W11 (Windows Chrome 😁).
@@jamesharvey44 Few years ago I was looking for hack a 1060 GPU to my M6700 which I saw some post on fourm here and there but I just didn't give it a go which I'm still a little bit regret it.
Well, regarding upgradability - some things make sense nowadays, while others don't (whatever Apple's doing never makes sense from the consumer standpoint, though). Soldered components can be faster (imagine having soldered LPDDRX ram right next to your cpu instead of having SODIMM slots that are far - traces-wise) and more energy efficient, and their small footprint allows for smaller and lighter devices - unlike the laptop you're working on. Replaceable batteries, MXM slot, upgradeable wifi and storage are great. But I'd rather have soldered cpu and ram and better non-upgraeable cooling, because that tiny copper cpu cooler wouldn't do nothing when paired with a modern cpu. Tech back then wasn't as demanding (and really far back there were no standards and companies did whatever they felt like is right), while nowadays the chips are so dense that doing it 'the old way' isn't practical. Companies like EUROCOM still offer 'upgradeable' laptops if that's really your thing, but I wouldn't call those LAPtops - more like dekstop replacements.
my laptop is pretty easy to upgrade. its an old cyberpower custom laptop that used to be my main gaming pc. its 8 screws then the whole bottom comes off then 8 more screws for the cpu/gpu heatsinks and you have access to the cpu thats socketed and the gpu thats one of those wierd minicards form faction was mcx or something like that
@@NTGTechnology no no it's a 4th gen mobile chip have a i7 4800hq I think and the gpu is a Gtx 860m 4gb. I can make a video about it for you to see if you wanted?
The PCMCIA slots were for memory cards or air cards (cellular modems) to allow you to connect to the internet on the road. My internal modem crapped out so I wound up buying a PCMCIA modem card. Those were quite the thing in the late '90s and early 2000s.
I used the two PCMCIA slots for Wi-Fi and USB2.0/FireWire (my 2000 laptop came with USB1.1 only, as USB2.0 got standardized the same year) I don't think I ever used the built-in modem, as I used to have ISDN (and the ISDN adapter had a USB1.1 port).
You could also install a light weight LINUX distro and have that sucker flying again (maybe even faster than when it was originally released) - and totally up-to-date.
What’s nice is that almost every Inspiron from this era up until the 2010’s was super easy to upgrade. You had to take em apart most of the time, but I’ve turbo charged so many dell laptops by upgrading their CPU’s, ram, and replacing their hard drives with SSD’s. They honestly are quite easy to turbo charge.
@@yerisoncruz oh yes I remember those models. Those ones are actually a bit tricky, but still easy to dissect! Models like the Inspiron e1405, 6000, Latitude D600, D630, and many more are from the more “easy disassembly” era.
the problem you mention regarding the speed of the FSB is not due to the processor it works at the declared frequency, it is the DDR rams that work from 266 to 400 mghz, the DDR2 go from 533 to 800 etc, so the only speed limit is due only to the components supported by the device which is in this case the type of RAM supported. cpu z similar software also detect real values as there is no need to make invasive changes (in some cases harmful) of the BIOS firmware As in CPU Spec its says exactli that M version support only 400 mghz FSB The revisited version ( Centrino ) support fastests RAMs like DDR2 533 mghz up
@NTG Technology Are you still looking for a case for the windows xp rig ? Could be worth keeping a lookout after the " nexus prominent 9 " orignially released around 2011. It's a bit heavy case at just around 9 kg but i still use it since i bought it cheap in 2014. Using it without one of the sidepanels on due too the tight space it's sitting in the cubby is almost like a sidepanel anyway while restricting top airflow a bit as well. But should be more then enough cooling for a Core 2 Extreme & SLI 8800 GTX's being made in the era of the GTX 480 & GTX 590. Current setup of my main pc is that case housing a I5 2500k @ 4.4 ghz, 16 gb ram @ 1600 mhz via 4x4 configuration & gtx 1660 super that I've had for a bit less then 2 years. Gonna be 2 years around October 4th or 6th i think is when i picked the 1660 super up. Got it at a bargain 2335 sek or 223$ as an open box return like a week or two before prices skyrocketed on graphics cards, glad i went for that honestly. Or i would have been stuck with my old hd 6870 or hd 5770. It was returned because of the shuddering noise on the fans going from passive too actively cooled on the fan profile, thats the only thing wrong & its likely gone now because I've kept using the card. Literally a 5 minute fix making my own fan profile & 0 issues with the card outside of old game compatibility messing up with the higher vram limit at 6 gb but eh i got other pcs i can play those games on if Dgvoodoo2 or Nglide doesn't help fixing those issues besides community patches, talking like 20+ year old games here like Need For Speed Porsche 2000. For windows xp i got a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop here released around mid 2005. So 2.5 ide hdd unfortunately on this particular model but a dedicated ati x300 gpu using ram as vram, 2 gb ddr2 ram 533 mhz sticks that runs at 400 mhz just fine. Using a 90w charger the laptop complains about & limits cpu power too 600 mhz normally. But i can get around that with crystalcpuid forcing the cpu too 1.5 ghz again while slightly undervolting the cpu as well. Pentium m @ 1.5 ghz which depending on what i play on here is more then enough for the built in 1280x800 display. HDD was replaced not too long ago with a 60 gb from a dead apple g4 powerbook i think it was. That powerbook has been junked for like 3 years by now after i tore it down, was some late spec model a year or two before apple went with intel core 2 duo's, cpu was a powerpc 667 mhz, 2x 128 mb ram sticks for 256 mb & the optional 60 gb hdd.
I actually found an old Antec case from around 2007-2008. I forget which model it is right now, but it has a 200mm fan mount in the top and a mesh front, so that should easily meet my needs. Video will come eventually about it.
My father's laptop from 2012 had an amd cpu that you could also remove I once deep cleaned everything and accidentally bend one of the pins, though I was able to get it right again What was surprising to me is, those CPUs weigh nearly nothing and the pins are really really hard. Like, it can bend a pin if you drop, but actually trying to bend it back was quite the task.
Ive kept my Laptops thatcan be upgraded. I have a few now but theyre pretty useless for anything other than web browsing etc . Dell Studio line were great for upgrading . I have a 1735 if mem serves me and i can upgrade everything, memory, GPU, wifi, Bluetooth, HDDs x2 or more and even the CPU could be replaced/upgraded. Dell was great for that back in the day, I even have an old Xp machine that you can upgrade pretty much everything on too. Ah the good ol days, how i miss them .
I have a 2 GHz Pentium M laptop with 2 2 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. I run Q4OS with the Trinity desktop. There are command line utilities for UA-cam and Spotify.
My two laptops, the older one, an Acer Extensa 5220, and the newer one, always Acer, but a gaming rig, the Nitro 5 year 2020, are an exception to the modern rule. The first, predictably since it's a legacy, I upgraded the hell out of with a new dual core CPU (a core duo T7700, I think it was, been a while, the fastest CPU supported) and 3Gb of RAM (max memory amount supported by the mobo) and an SSD. Its hinger are so stiff too, you need two hands to open it, to say. The second, though I had to open it whole (thing easy enough to do for me) since sadly it lacks fast access hatches like the majority of new laptops out there (though it seems the 2018 one still had them), I brought it to 32GB RAM and added a card SSD... only to discover a little too late it could accomodate another M1 SSD (that next year I will add too), to say it is written near the keyboard it could. It's official, I'm an idiot. So, I guess it depends on what laptop we're talking about. Muscle-bound gaming rigs still can to a degree (though I don't think my Nitro 5 can have a CPU upgrade, it's already an i7 10th gen, so it's not so bad) while super-thin ones... well, I guess it depends. Some still can accept memory and HD upgrade, though you must completely open them to do it, and others just sacrifice possibility of upgrade upon the altar of portability or builder choice.
Express card was awesome. It was a PCI Express slot that you could plug basically anything into. You could add USB 3.0 ports, eSATA, Firewire ports (yes Firewire was better than USB 2.0). You could add PCIe Gigabit Ethernet if the system only had 100Mb. Think of Express card as a early Thunderbolt system. If Expresscard still existed today you could plug an eGPU into it
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 mxm was a thing. But it was not standard in terms of the modules size and layout. The mxm standard was just the connector pinout but you'd rarely be able to use a mxm gpu module between different laptop manufacturers.
This would kind of come in handy with gaming laptops with them giving us the max on how fast a CPU should be and if we can swap it out for Intel or AMD. I know that the GPU would still be built in "since some manufactures had tried that in the past with upgradability" but, regardless it would at least be nice to get an option just like that
Oh no, those hinges are normally that tight. I had one of these bad boys as my first PC when I turned 11 years old. It was 6 years outdated by that time but I loved the thing. Those hinges are so tight that you don't have to worry about them ever going - it's the plastic chassis around the hinge that'll snap off before those hinges give up. I remember having to use two hands to open that laptop.
Technically , most laptops were upgradeable up i Core 3rd gen aka Ivy Bridge , it all depended on mobile chipset. You could for example upgrade Intel HM-65 chipset to use i7 3632QM , but BIOS microcode editing is needed. And 3rd gen was the last gen that used socketed CPU. As for modern ones , depending on user budget , most still support RAM & SSD upgrades and some even have 2 SSD NVME slots. Depending on mamufacturer and model , some still sport M.2 WiFi and Bluetooth cards , tho , involment in reaching these , if they're not gaming laptops is significantly harder. Also - card readers. MicroSD card readers are not always present nor are the separate channels for headphones and mic. Port count and selection also decreased. Also , user replaceable battery packs that used to be outside , held by one or two latches has dissapeared too , now most people if they are not a bit skilled , need to open laptop to pull out old battery and put new one , without ripping and damaging ribbon cables and connectors and accidentally killing motherboard in process.
considering the size of the heatsink, I can see why low end laptops were the only ones that can change CPUs. but yeah, they should return Laptops with upgradable CPUs. I understand that business oriented laptops needs to be slim but gaming laptops should have the option to have removeable CPUs since portability isn't really their thing considering how bulky and heavy they are and on that note, why do they even exist. They aren't exactly portable since they usually need to be plugged in to a power source.
I wanted to add a new Intel CPU to my Asus H97M-e mainboard that has an old Intel i5 4460 CPU but in the computer shop they said that all Intel CPUs have different sockets and a new CPU won't fit on my mainboard.
I have a big notebook that has the same kind of cooler design. But it supports Desktop Pentium 4 CPUs. Pretty interesting to see that inside a notebook.
Why in the world would companies nowadays make laptops less upgradable....I wanted to upgrade my laptop but watching all of these and doing some other reseaech its just best ti get a new one....I can't believe this honestly I'd be so happy if I could do this.
Just respectfully for your information...it's DOUGH-thun, with a hard "th" like in "thin". I share this after having been to Dothan, Alabama. Any idea how late Dell allowed this CPU upgrade? Because 2GB with modern browsers is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I had this laptop and used to play a lot of Doom 3 and CS Source on it back in the day. The best part about the cpu socket is you can do a mod to overclock your existing CPU. I put a little piece of wire in between the two pins and my 1.5ghz celeron M became a 2ghz pentium for free. Too bad the laptop got stolen though. I still miss it.
Also the 5200m chip inside it was a beast, maxed out the sliders in MSI afterburner and was still 100% stable and benchmarked way beyond desktop geforce 5200 cards.
@@lowliar8489 take a wire, make it into a U shape, and insert it carefully on the 3rd row between pins 15 and 16 from the left (when socket lock is on the left).
I guess Core Duo T2500 @ 2.00 Ghz or T2450 CPU run with ur Dell. T2500 - 667 Mhz & T2450 533 Mhz. Celeron M380's passmark 190, T2500's passmark 408. Double core, double performance. 😊 I don't remember model, but very old notebook did run with this upgrade.
My 2012~13 Latitude is quite similar, 5 screws and you open the hole bottom, RAM, HDD, CPU, and evan 3 mSATA, 2 of wich actually are mPCIe. Quite upgradable and powerful, full of slots, just take a look on the specs and you gonna be surprised, Latitude E6430
Do you really want that storage upgraded and expand your RAM? Sell your machine, and buy a used one with the specs you need, simple. Upgradability in laptops is overrated and here's why I think so: If it would be the case that I could swap everything in, for example, a macbook pro 2012. What would I be able to achieve? Put a 4th gen core i7 instead of a 4th gen core i5 in there? I would still be limited by the CPU socket and it's supported processors. Would I be upgrading the RAM? Okey, let's look for some old modules to expand the overall size, but all the advancements in the RAM technology like DDR4 are not supported by the motherboard. Try to put some storage upgrades in there? Make sure you buy this old 2,5" ssd instead of them new (sometimes 10 times quicker) m.2 storage. Want a nice retina screen in that old macbook? To bad, the GPU can't drive that. Connect some usb-c devices? Get a dongle and enjoy the usb2.0 transfer speeds and capabilities. But okay, let's say we upgrade it to the max specs supported by the motherboard. It still won't run the latest MacOS or Windows due to the processor missing some newer technology's. So in the end, I'll be looking for a motherboard, cpu, gpu, display, storage, RAM and outer shell (to support the new usb-c hubs) upgrade. Seems like purchasing a brand new machine will help me out with all this, comes pre-assembled and is more cost effective.
Interesting but not really worth buying, even for a few bucks. Seems to be ok to take a Pentium M 780 @ 2.26Mhz, but it feels like in the best-case scenario you would be looking at a performance of about 50% of the slowest Intel Atom CPU from ten years ago. And realistically you would be looking to pay at least $50 plus shipping (eBay) before you even consider the $30 price of the upgraded CPU. As an interesting fact of the history of computers it was worth a video but to buy!!!!
I upgraded my old eMachines e525 with 2-core CPU, more RAM and SSD, and it's become pretty mush usable even with windows 10, everything works just fine, which made me wonder honestly. It really feels like decent laptop capable to do some work even today. Didn't expect that from 2010 laptop, more than 10 years in use. With new battery it's works almost like new, exept from display. It's very obvious old tech LCD which really looks old and bad by modern standarts, have very low brightness and overall image quality.
I have a ECS/Uniwill L51** series laptop (this one is GQ/Frys!) that is waiting for the Core Duo T2500 and Intel 3945abg card to arrive to bring to Centrino specs. Everything except 1 memory slot under keyboard is easily accessable under 1 cover.
Improve the CPU, RAM and I changed the HDD for an SSD. i swapped the 32 bit cpu for a 64 bit one and the laptop came back to life. It's an Acer 5670 from 2007.
i miss those days when you could just swap and change the CPU, RAM, WLAN card, GPU and HDD😢😭
Me tooo
Out of the 5 things you said only 3 of them is swappable and replaceable. RAM, HDD/SSD and WLAN Card.
@@005MDS3 though a lot of newer devices nowadays use EMMC storage chips
@@BrettS02 Newer cheap low end devices*
@@BrettS02 EMMC Storage is used on lower end PC. Most PC uses M.2 SSD and SATA HDD
Laptops are probably one of the technological areas that have regressed the most in recent years when it comes to upgradeability and IO.
My most recent laptop is from 2015 if I remember correctly. It isn't a particularly high-performance model or anything (it has a celeron for a processor), but despite that it still featured upgradeable ram, wlan, storage bay and a dvd drive. I've changed out my dvd drive for an additional hard drive in a caddy. I will however switch it back whenever I need to use some optical media. It's not hot-swappable, but it isn't a hassle either.
Furthermore, it also had, what used to be, a normal amount of IO.
Seriously, what's up with modern electronics and a severe lack of IO? Modern TVs are even worse. Are you supposed to just throw out all your old stuff or keep an old TV around? Or are you supposed to buy those signal converter boxes from brands you've never heard of, that are questionable at best?
And now celeron laptops mostly just have a very tiny motherboard with all the RAM, storage, and wifi module soldered to the board, so if only one of them get malfunctioned, you need to replace the whole motherboard (which costs almost as high as the new laptop itself)
Hey, back in 2000s almost everything was upgradable. Most common thing I remember is big door on the bottom of laptop case that gave access to HDD, RAM, CPU, optical drive and expansion cards like wifi. Even more recent laptops have those - like Dell E7470 that I use as my main machine. LCD expansion function was very common on Pentim I/II machines (especially IBMs and Toshibas).
I have a Dell from around 2016 that still allows easy access to the RAM and hard drive. Upgradability still somewhat exists, but CPU upgrades are pretty much dead since AMD and Intel don't offer sockets anymore.
2014 hp r15 here, just upgraded my ram to 8 gigs and added a SSD for the OS. Have a Nvidia 840 on a i3. Hopefully I can finally play GTA 5😂
the current stuff is made non upgradable because the majority of people want the slimmest laptop and electronics, example smartphgons with camera hump which i find stupid, why cant they make the whole device 2mm thicker and have a larger batter and have no hump but because modern sheeple only are after slim devices they make it less upgradable and less connective example no sd card slot, no usb slot, no ethernet slot, forcing you to have a bunch of dongles because the laptop is 1.5mm too thin to fit a regular sized ethernet port, and because of all these dongles it makes the device even more bulky.
@@ainzooalgown7589 companies are cutting their costs, loosing functionality; customers are demanding more swanky form factors, reducing brands that cater to them to wither out. Only big companies with enough cash can survive🤷🏿♂️
Technologies are never made to last, so why ponder about nitty gritty of company policies. Brands die and new ones always emerge in free markets. Let's enjoy what we have today. Carpedium!
Laptops had desktop CPUs back then
The ThinkPad T440p is nearly as easy, 2 screws come off the bottom and then the cover slides off revealing just about everything (RAM, storage, CPU, optical drive, wireless card, etc), however you still have to loosen the screws and unplug the cooling assembly before you can replace the processor. I miss the upgradeability of these older laptops. Great video!
Except HP ones. You had to remove the keyboard and screen to reach the CPU, and hinges were flimsy AF, so pretty much you ended with a broken laptop
But not all Thinkpads😂😂
Lenovo locked the upgradability by white list in BIOS😢
For example, my G500 (unable to upgrade the trash wifi adapter, still no mod version of BIOS released) and Thinkpad R61i (sata is also limited to sata I, but now is unlocked by the mod version of BIOS on the Internet.)😢😢
T530 is the same way.
My old Asus laptop from 2010 it can upgrade almost everything like cpu ram hdd ssd and even delicate gpu because it use mxm interface
Nice one, was similarly surprised how upgradable my Inspiron 8100 was - the graphics card was also replacable, and it accepted the card and display panel from my somewhat broken Latitude C840. Went from a 1400x1050 display and Geforce2Go 16MB to a 1600x1200 display and GeForce 4 440 Go 64MB, and couple that with a 1.2GHz PIII-M upgrade, it's now an insane Windows 98/ME system! Only 4 screws and a somewhat annoying retention bar to upgrade the CPU, and a further 4 for the GPU.
i have toshiba satellite a200 (since 2005) work fine without any single problem, at 2017 i bought hp pavilion notebook 15, the motherboard failed after 1 year and half, since the cpu is soldered directly into the motherboard, i couldn't save it and a new motherboard is double the price ..., the toshiba satellite at the other hand have everything replacable, even the old gpu, its just sad
2:37 The engineer responsible for this was probably looked at with contempt by sales people.
when the laptops was literally portable desktops...
I bought my Lenovo Thinkpad T420 in 2013 and it has doors on the bottom to upgrade Cd/RAM/Wifi and it has Express ports, You can change the CPU but you have to open up the case to do it which is not hard. So you can change an i5 for an i7. What I miss most about old laptops is removing the battery
Dual removable battery too, like my daily driver elitebook 8470p
My Acer Aspire 5742G from 2009-2010 also has a removable CPU and its on i7 3rd gen, but that Laptop only supports up to 8GB DDR3 ram Which is kinda disappointing. I still have that Laptop, but the battery isn't charging and some of the keys are gone. What i like about that Laptop is it's on Official Windows 7 Pro and got a Beta Test for Windows 10 pro when it was first officially released to the public.
I thought you were MJD LOL
Celeron M also doesn't have Speedstep fonctionnality. Another laptop easy to Upgrade is the Acer Extensa 4000 series (or aspire 1690) only 5screws to change the cpu.
Thanks, good to know.
I am probably one of 5 people that never ran into any problems with Vista. not a single issue with the 5 -7 machines I had it installed on.
I've heard a lot of positive stories and experiences people had with Vista. Really does seem like the issues were just a launch thing and had been mostly cleaned up by 2008. Only real criticism I have for it would be the high system requirements.
for someone with 1.4k subs your videos are really well put together, hope your channel grows!
In the past laptops were designed by engineers, later marketologists appeared.
I think upgradability has been compromised with thinning out the laptops.
USB 4 and thunderbolt have the same idea, just implemented in a worse way. expresscard has PCI, those have PCIe
it's a newer version of the same thing essentially.
EC used to be the fastest way to transfer data out of the PC
You can use the Express card slot to add 3 USB3 jacks, I did it on my Dell XPS M1730 and it works well.
BGA is hands down the worst thing to become the standard ever. bring back PGA/LGA laptop sockets
Benefits with optical drive is, that, it's possible to add extra storage like 2nd hard drive.
When the manufacturers focus on delivering quality & robustness instead of planned obsolescence.
They really don't make em like they used to... My almost 10 year old Thinkpad T440P to this day still gets me through a lot of work. Never letting go of that beast. Trying to find an i7 4700MQ to swap out the stock i5. Literally everything else in my laptop has been swapped out lol. Really hope we'll get laptops like this again someday. Great video dude!
You've found another Thinkpad fan using another T440p ! Though mine comes with an i7 cpu in her factory settings. Perhaps I can help you get an i7 4700MQ for an upgrade?
@@Francis_UD hello fellow Thinkpad enjoyer! You're a lucky guy if you got that i7 stock dude. I live in Sri Lanka, so getting niche tech like an i7 4700MQ is a bit of a problem. If you'd know any suppliers that deliver here, I would be indebted to you for life!
Framework will do it for us
i got a thinkpad T430
I'm rocking a 2011 Probook 4430s myself. Came stock with 8 gb ram, 500 gb HDD, and an i5 on Windows 7. Presently she is running (slowly) Windows 10. Still rocking all-original parts. She is slated for a new 1tb SSD, 16 GB RAM, and an i7 2630qm, as well as a new bluetooth card and wireless upgrade. That sucker got beat on with gaming for a number of years, and got me through an EMS course before she really started to slow down. CPU is supposed to arrive in about a week and she'll be running faster than she did new.
My favorite part is how easy it is to open the case up, the entire underside is just one big panel. Push two little tabs, battery pops loose. Push them again and slide the panel to reveal the internals. 10-second job.
I have a big notebook that has the same kind of cooler design. But it supports Desktop Pentium 4 CPUs. Pretty interesting to see that inside a notebook.
Not a good idea as those desktop p4 ran hot, that tiny heatsink won't be up to the job.
FRAMEWORK Laptop!!!
Watch this Video!!!
I dare you
My old toshiba upgrade from i5 to i7, ssd drive and 16gb. Still runs solid. And its already 10 years old
Me with 2 core E8400 💀💀
I had a Fujitsu Lifebook back in 2004, it had almost the same upgradability options aside from the CPU access which you need to tear down the laptop itself. but since it did not have Wifi Capability, back in the day, I purchased about 3 PCMCIA Express Expansion cards, 1 for Wifi, 1 for Bluetooth, and the other was a 4 Port USB 2.0
but what i loved the most about it is:
1. even when it just had a Pentium 4 M 3.0 HT, it out done the Desktop PC my family had at the time which was up to spec running Dual Core 3.0 CPU.
2. it had a small LCD screen with a few buttons mainly to be used as a Media Player control. with that said even if the LCD was closed, you had the capacity to play Music using the LCD and Player controls which was not covered by the LCD Screen and even see which was playing with that small screen.
yesterday i was literally disasembeling that exact laptop for a school project and noticed now easy it was to upgrade
I think the cpu socket is available on laptop until the m series intel gen4 with intel hd4600, right?
Not all. For example the Thinkpad T430 is upgradeable, but not the T430s/x230 - all have M series processors.. But yes, I believe you are right in that the last use 4th gen Ms like the Dell E6440 / Thinkpad T440P.
Back when Dell made Quality products, Not cutting edge but durable and expandable. Shame on them for what they've become!
Modern Dell is an insult to what they used to be.
and even on some laptops you can replace the gpu in laptops that use the MXM connector (Mobile PCI Express Module) a bit rare nowadays.
also some were limited because of PC's biso proprietary junk that the OEMs used and on older dells they used i don't know what it called it was some kind of mini AGP or some other proprietary connector.
i hate consoles with soldered storage. 😁
Amazing, I have a costumer that bring me this laptop today. Beautiful dinosaur from 2006 working as the first day. I'm going to put an SSD inside with 2gb ram to see how the computer works. Beatiful video, beautiful dell, beautiful everything!
ACER (back on the CELERON era) used one big cover that you can take off givving access to all memory wifi and CPU. The opening is big enough to take cooler and heatpipe .... which is good since allows more in depth cleaning
Today's notebook is all in one,
If it's not working, check the purchase date.
Over 2 years, throw it away or find a shop with trade in bad computer.
That 's nothing U can do. Replace a new CPU ???
digital Engineer
I hate sounding like a boomer but, they never make them like they used to anymore. So much e-waste. So much personality stripped from products. Into meaningless gadgets that don't even do what you want. Fixing a product cost more than buying the product itself. It's such bullshit in this world.
I've kept my 2010 Dell Precision M4500 pretty up to date due to expansion. I still use it, it's been on and running almost every single day since I got it.
nice! i have an ipsiron 6400, discreteradeon gpu and an upgraded core 2 duo @ 2.3 GHz(i think), upgraded to 4G ram ddr2/800, yes its slow with windows 10, but great for a linux box. screen is beautiful 15" great keyboard, great speakers and yes, the hinge works beatufully still
UA-cam really got bloated over the years, I remember being able to play 720p without any frame drops in 2010-11 when I stopped using my old Toshiba Satellite with similar Celeron, and moreso I remember playing 240p UA-cam on Pentium II 400MHz laptop around 2009 and it worked pretty well.
Yep, UA-cam worked just fine back in 2015 or so on all my old hardware. The modern player really is terrible and inefficient by comparison, not to mention that navigation is horrible too.
They’re using different video codec now, and it’s not bloated, even 720 P video is getting higher quality, codec, that require more CPU horsepower because the video is more compressed.
@@BrianMartin2007 Good old flv days..
@@BrianMartin2007 they changed the codec but these laptops can't decode with gpu acceleration support, only cpu. they used to decode easier while it was flv or h264
there is a plugin for chrome that forces h264
Laptops were so upgradable back then, I miss the old days.
Put an ssd on it it will boost the performance much mostly on such low system, also remove the DVD roon, and install a second like an optane disk used to boost startup and paging
Better upgrade for PM780 - 2.26 GHz then PM760 2 GHz
Everyone be talking 'bout framework n stuff but this dude right here is more upgradable and easier to maintain than any computer ever coming out ma guy.
Linus' investment is endangered by this.
yep, thats dell. They always had good expandability and reparability on their laptops until they started using proprietary parts and crappy designs.
I cant say the same for HP in the same time period. They had the same socketed things, but they made you take the entire chassis apart to get to them. I had to remove the motherboard to replace the cpu, and the hard drive is requires the whole thing to come apart. Props to dell for keeping it easy.
Apple: we love to steal your money by asking 200% more money for more storage and ram and NO upgrades for you!!!
My first AT&T 486 laptop had the 1.44 meg floppy no sound card, no modem and only ONE PCMCIA slot. So I could either use the sound expansion or my 14.4 fax modem expansion to dial into AOL. I could not WAIT to get a pentium 100 laptop with TWO PCMCIA slots.... Of course laptops started coming with modems and sound cards built right in and I no longer needed the expansion slots. Though there is still one computer at work that needs the slot for a dedicated PLC communication. Oh how our tech changes! Great review!
That machine can ho up to 3 ghz cpu. Why did you install a 2 gb one at least 2.6 ghz
I actually scrapped one of these recently; the doors on the underside were all missing or broken so reusing it wouldn't have been realistic. I was thoroughly impressed by the build quality though. I think the hinges were actually just incredibly solid; mine had had a lot of use and they still felt amazing. The only complaint I would have levelled at it was that it didn't use the standard Dell charging port.
I'd be curious to see you try some different ram modules in there to see if you could improve the speed, or at least see some improved timings and if there is a measurable difference.
I have a bunch of DDR2 SODIMMs lying around so I should try it.
Just make sure the clock frequencies are both compatible and same if you're adding multiple ddr2's. I'd first find out the CPU data sheet and check if both the motherboard and CPU can handle it.
proof that laptops used to be more upgradable then they are today
Back when dell cared about repairability and longevity
i have this model, it still works today with Windows 11 😁😁
I have a 2013 Dell Precision M6700, the socketed CPU and GPU cards are upgradable, it also has multiple storage bays for expansion. I am using it as a daily device at work and running Win 10. The Quadro K5000m is still doing a decent job for everything but modern video production encoding/decoding. I personally replaced the 3rd gen dual core I7 for the 4-core version.
a M6700 owner here, mine is K4000M with i7-3740qm. It really a fun using that, the keyboard feeling is just amazing.
I also have a Lenovo ideapad G780, I got it with base-spec like no OS, 2nd gen i3 then I upgraded to a 3610qm, 8GB RAM and it serves well even till now rocking with windows 11 22h2. With a cheap SSD like BX500 it boots even faster than my 2021 OMEN 16 which is crazy....
@@shinya1215 It is crazy, the 6700 is much faster than the company provided new laptop. The only thing holding it back is a lack of updated GPU cards for it. There is no reason that W11 cannot be installed with the TPM workaround except I loathe W11 (Windows Chrome 😁).
@@jamesharvey44 Few years ago I was looking for hack a 1060 GPU to my M6700 which I saw some post on fourm here and there but I just didn't give it a go which I'm still a little bit regret it.
This is how technology could have been easy to fix in the future but instead it's gonna be rented tech to reduce waste 😣
Well, regarding upgradability - some things make sense nowadays, while others don't (whatever Apple's doing never makes sense from the consumer standpoint, though).
Soldered components can be faster (imagine having soldered LPDDRX ram right next to your cpu instead of having SODIMM slots that are far - traces-wise) and more energy efficient, and their small footprint allows for smaller and lighter devices - unlike the laptop you're working on.
Replaceable batteries, MXM slot, upgradeable wifi and storage are great. But I'd rather have soldered cpu and ram and better non-upgraeable cooling, because that tiny copper cpu cooler wouldn't do nothing when paired with a modern cpu.
Tech back then wasn't as demanding (and really far back there were no standards and companies did whatever they felt like is right), while nowadays the chips are so dense that doing it 'the old way' isn't practical.
Companies like EUROCOM still offer 'upgradeable' laptops if that's really your thing, but I wouldn't call those LAPtops - more like dekstop replacements.
Built to last. Today's devices are nowhere close to this DELL's solid quality.
my laptop is pretty easy to upgrade. its an old cyberpower custom laptop that used to be my main gaming pc. its 8 screws then the whole bottom comes off then 8 more screws for the cpu/gpu heatsinks and you have access to the cpu thats socketed and the gpu thats one of those wierd minicards form faction was mcx or something like that
Was it using a desktop CPU?
@@NTGTechnology no no it's a 4th gen mobile chip have a i7 4800hq I think and the gpu is a Gtx 860m 4gb. I can make a video about it for you to see if you wanted?
The PCMCIA slots were for memory cards or air cards (cellular modems) to allow you to connect to the internet on the road. My internal modem crapped out so I wound up buying a PCMCIA modem card. Those were quite the thing in the late '90s and early 2000s.
I used the two PCMCIA slots for Wi-Fi and USB2.0/FireWire (my 2000 laptop came with USB1.1 only, as USB2.0 got standardized the same year)
I don't think I ever used the built-in modem, as I used to have ISDN (and the ISDN adapter had a USB1.1 port).
The Dell Latitude 120L has the exact same design btw
they delete all of those for 1-2 cm lower height, pretty sad
i have the same laptop. upgraded it from a 1.4 GHz celeron M to a 2.13 GHz pentium M.
You could also install a light weight LINUX distro and have that sucker flying again (maybe even faster than when it was originally released) - and totally up-to-date.
Look like MJD video 🙃
What’s nice is that almost every Inspiron from this era up until the 2010’s was super easy to upgrade. You had to take em apart most of the time, but I’ve turbo charged so many dell laptops by upgrading their CPU’s, ram, and replacing their hard drives with SSD’s. They honestly are quite easy to turbo charge.
example dell Inspiron 1545
@@yerisoncruz oh yes I remember those models. Those ones are actually a bit tricky, but still easy to dissect! Models like the Inspiron e1405,
6000, Latitude D600, D630, and many more are from the more “easy disassembly” era.
the problem you mention regarding the speed of the FSB is not due to the processor it works at the declared frequency, it is the DDR rams that work from 266 to 400 mghz, the DDR2 go from 533 to 800 etc, so the only speed limit is due only to the components supported by the device which is in this case the type of RAM supported.
cpu z similar software also detect real values as there is no need to make invasive changes (in some cases harmful) of the BIOS firmware
As in CPU Spec its says exactli that M version support only 400 mghz FSB
The revisited version ( Centrino ) support fastests RAMs like DDR2 533 mghz up
@NTG Technology Are you still looking for a case for the windows xp rig ?
Could be worth keeping a lookout after the " nexus prominent 9 "
orignially released around 2011.
It's a bit heavy case at just around 9 kg but i still use it since i bought it cheap in 2014.
Using it without one of the sidepanels on due too the tight space it's sitting in the cubby is almost like a sidepanel anyway while restricting top airflow a bit as well.
But should be more then enough cooling for a Core 2 Extreme & SLI 8800 GTX's being made in the era of the GTX 480 & GTX 590.
Current setup of my main pc is that case housing a I5 2500k @ 4.4 ghz, 16 gb ram @ 1600 mhz via 4x4 configuration & gtx 1660 super that I've had for a bit less then 2 years.
Gonna be 2 years around October 4th or 6th i think is when i picked the 1660 super up.
Got it at a bargain 2335 sek or 223$ as an open box return like a week or two before prices skyrocketed on graphics cards, glad i went for that honestly.
Or i would have been stuck with my old hd 6870 or hd 5770.
It was returned because of the shuddering noise on the fans going from passive too actively cooled on the fan profile, thats the only thing wrong & its likely gone now because I've kept using the card.
Literally a 5 minute fix making my own fan profile & 0 issues with the card outside of old game compatibility messing up with the higher vram limit at 6 gb but eh i got other pcs i can play those games on if Dgvoodoo2 or Nglide doesn't help fixing those issues besides community patches, talking like 20+ year old games here like Need For Speed Porsche 2000.
For windows xp i got a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop here released around mid 2005.
So 2.5 ide hdd unfortunately on this particular model but a dedicated ati x300 gpu using ram as vram, 2 gb ddr2 ram 533 mhz sticks that runs at 400 mhz just fine.
Using a 90w charger the laptop complains about & limits cpu power too 600 mhz normally.
But i can get around that with crystalcpuid forcing the cpu too 1.5 ghz again while slightly undervolting the cpu as well.
Pentium m @ 1.5 ghz which depending on what i play on here is more then enough for the built in 1280x800 display.
HDD was replaced not too long ago with a 60 gb from a dead apple g4 powerbook i think it was.
That powerbook has been junked for like 3 years by now after i tore it down, was some late spec model a year or two before apple went with intel core 2 duo's, cpu was a powerpc 667 mhz, 2x 128 mb ram sticks for 256 mb & the optional 60 gb hdd.
I actually found an old Antec case from around 2007-2008. I forget which model it is right now, but it has a 200mm fan mount in the top and a mesh front, so that should easily meet my needs. Video will come eventually about it.
My father's laptop from 2012 had an amd cpu that you could also remove
I once deep cleaned everything and accidentally bend one of the pins, though I was able to get it right again
What was surprising to me is, those CPUs weigh nearly nothing and the pins are really really hard. Like, it can bend a pin if you drop, but actually trying to bend it back was quite the task.
Really old machine are good
god I miss those days, Most companies were like this, I worked on a bunch of brands from the early 2000's that all had easy access to every component
Ive kept my Laptops thatcan be upgraded. I have a few now but theyre pretty useless for anything other than web browsing etc . Dell Studio line were great for upgrading . I have a 1735 if mem serves me and i can upgrade everything, memory, GPU, wifi, Bluetooth, HDDs x2 or more and even the CPU could be replaced/upgraded. Dell was great for that back in the day, I even have an old Xp machine that you can upgrade pretty much everything on too. Ah the good ol days, how i miss them .
I suggest you get some plastic blade decal scrapers for removing old paste in the future.
I have a 2 GHz Pentium M laptop with 2 2 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. I run Q4OS with the Trinity desktop. There are command line utilities for UA-cam and Spotify.
I managed to upgrade a Sony Vivo from a Pentium 945 to a i3 3110m and from 2GB DR3 1333 to 8GB 1600
And how does that hold up these days?
@@rickyp6815 surprisingly well… i was a bit shocked it actually worked without a bios update
Older machines were so much better.
My two laptops, the older one, an Acer Extensa 5220, and the newer one, always Acer, but a gaming rig, the Nitro 5 year 2020, are an exception to the modern rule.
The first, predictably since it's a legacy, I upgraded the hell out of with a new dual core CPU (a core duo T7700, I think it was, been a while, the fastest CPU supported) and 3Gb of RAM (max memory amount supported by the mobo) and an SSD. Its hinger are so stiff too, you need two hands to open it, to say.
The second, though I had to open it whole (thing easy enough to do for me) since sadly it lacks fast access hatches like the majority of new laptops out there (though it seems the 2018 one still had them), I brought it to 32GB RAM and added a card SSD... only to discover a little too late it could accomodate another M1 SSD (that next year I will add too), to say it is written near the keyboard it could. It's official, I'm an idiot.
So, I guess it depends on what laptop we're talking about. Muscle-bound gaming rigs still can to a degree (though I don't think my Nitro 5 can have a CPU upgrade, it's already an i7 10th gen, so it's not so bad) while super-thin ones... well, I guess it depends. Some still can accept memory and HD upgrade, though you must completely open them to do it, and others just sacrifice possibility of upgrade upon the altar of portability or builder choice.
♥♥ #neato
Express card was awesome. It was a PCI Express slot that you could plug basically anything into. You could add USB 3.0 ports, eSATA, Firewire ports (yes Firewire was better than USB 2.0). You could add PCIe Gigabit Ethernet if the system only had 100Mb. Think of Express card as a early Thunderbolt system. If Expresscard still existed today you could plug an eGPU into it
wasn't mxm a thing
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 mxm was a thing. But it was not standard in terms of the modules size and layout. The mxm standard was just the connector pinout but you'd rarely be able to use a mxm gpu module between different laptop manufacturers.
This would kind of come in handy with gaming laptops with them giving us the max on how fast a CPU should be and if we can swap it out for Intel or AMD.
I know that the GPU would still be built in "since some manufactures had tried that in the past with upgradability" but, regardless it would at least be nice to get an option just like that
Oh no, those hinges are normally that tight. I had one of these bad boys as my first PC when I turned 11 years old. It was 6 years outdated by that time but I loved the thing. Those hinges are so tight that you don't have to worry about them ever going - it's the plastic chassis around the hinge that'll snap off before those hinges give up. I remember having to use two hands to open that laptop.
Technically , most laptops were upgradeable up i Core 3rd gen aka Ivy Bridge , it all depended on mobile chipset. You could for example upgrade Intel HM-65 chipset to use i7 3632QM , but BIOS microcode editing is needed. And 3rd gen was the last gen that used socketed CPU. As for modern ones , depending on user budget , most still support RAM & SSD upgrades and some even have 2 SSD NVME slots. Depending on mamufacturer and model , some still sport M.2 WiFi and Bluetooth cards , tho , involment in reaching these , if they're not gaming laptops is significantly harder. Also - card readers. MicroSD card readers are not always present nor are the separate channels for headphones and mic. Port count and selection also decreased.
Also , user replaceable battery packs that used to be outside , held by one or two latches has dissapeared too , now most people if they are not a bit skilled , need to open laptop to pull out old battery and put new one , without ripping and damaging ribbon cables and connectors and accidentally killing motherboard in process.
considering the size of the heatsink, I can see why low end laptops were the only ones that can change CPUs. but yeah, they should return Laptops with upgradable CPUs. I understand that business oriented laptops needs to be slim but gaming laptops should have the option to have removeable CPUs since portability isn't really their thing considering how bulky and heavy they are and on that note, why do they even exist. They aren't exactly portable since they usually need to be plugged in to a power source.
I think the reason most Laptops are using soldered hardware is Form Factor. And better CPU/GPU Contact with Heatsink maybe
I wanted to add a new Intel CPU to my Asus H97M-e mainboard that has an old Intel i5 4460 CPU but in the computer shop they said that all Intel CPUs have different sockets and a new CPU won't fit on my mainboard.
Dell making desktops: 💩
Dell making laptops: 💪
I’d argue late 2000s Dells weren’t awful by any means. Not great, but I’d certainly take them over some other OEMs.
Far as I know, only Clevo laptops have replaceable CPUs and GPUs to this day, but its only for their really high end model
I have a big notebook that has the same kind of cooler design. But it supports Desktop Pentium 4 CPUs. Pretty interesting to see that inside a notebook.
Why in the world would companies nowadays make laptops less upgradable....I wanted to upgrade my laptop but watching all of these and doing some other reseaech its just best ti get a new one....I can't believe this honestly I'd be so happy if I could do this.
Dude this layout will blow when they do it in 2024. Every PC antusias 1000% will buy this…
Just respectfully for your information...it's DOUGH-thun, with a hard "th" like in "thin". I share this after having been to Dothan, Alabama.
Any idea how late Dell allowed this CPU upgrade? Because 2GB with modern browsers is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I had this laptop and used to play a lot of Doom 3 and CS Source on it back in the day. The best part about the cpu socket is you can do a mod to overclock your existing CPU. I put a little piece of wire in between the two pins and my 1.5ghz celeron M became a 2ghz pentium for free. Too bad the laptop got stolen though. I still miss it.
Also the 5200m chip inside it was a beast, maxed out the sliders in MSI afterburner and was still 100% stable and benchmarked way beyond desktop geforce 5200 cards.
Im really curious on how u did it i have the exactly same laptop
@@lowliar8489 take a wire, make it into a U shape, and insert it carefully on the 3rd row between pins 15 and 16 from the left (when socket lock is on the left).
edit: I forgot that they use a lock and not a latch on those sockets, fixed it.
I guess Core Duo T2500 @ 2.00 Ghz or T2450 CPU run with ur Dell. T2500 - 667 Mhz & T2450 533 Mhz. Celeron M380's passmark 190, T2500's passmark 408. Double core, double performance. 😊 I don't remember model, but very old notebook did run with this upgrade.
there are express card usb 3 cards
My 2012~13 Latitude is quite similar, 5 screws and you open the hole bottom, RAM, HDD, CPU, and evan 3 mSATA, 2 of wich actually are mPCIe. Quite upgradable and powerful, full of slots, just take a look on the specs and you gonna be surprised, Latitude E6430
RJ45 socket would be Fast Ethernet: 100 Mbps (IEEE 802.3u) and not Gigabit Ethernet (IEE 802.3).
Do you really want that storage upgraded and expand your RAM? Sell your machine, and buy a used one with the specs you need, simple. Upgradability in laptops is overrated and here's why I think so:
If it would be the case that I could swap everything in, for example, a macbook pro 2012. What would I be able to achieve? Put a 4th gen core i7 instead of a 4th gen core i5 in there? I would still be limited by the CPU socket and it's supported processors.
Would I be upgrading the RAM? Okey, let's look for some old modules to expand the overall size, but all the advancements in the RAM technology like DDR4 are not supported by the motherboard.
Try to put some storage upgrades in there? Make sure you buy this old 2,5" ssd instead of them new (sometimes 10 times quicker) m.2 storage.
Want a nice retina screen in that old macbook? To bad, the GPU can't drive that.
Connect some usb-c devices? Get a dongle and enjoy the usb2.0 transfer speeds and capabilities.
But okay, let's say we upgrade it to the max specs supported by the motherboard. It still won't run the latest MacOS or Windows due to the processor missing some newer technology's.
So in the end, I'll be looking for a motherboard, cpu, gpu, display, storage, RAM and outer shell (to support the new usb-c hubs) upgrade. Seems like purchasing a brand new machine will help me out with all this, comes pre-assembled and is more cost effective.
things are like cell phones now, just buy a decent setup, the day it comes to be outdated its time to change everything anyway.
Interesting but not really worth buying, even for a few bucks. Seems to be ok to take a Pentium M 780 @ 2.26Mhz, but it feels like in the best-case scenario you would be looking at a performance of about 50% of the slowest Intel Atom CPU from ten years ago. And realistically you would be looking to pay at least $50 plus shipping (eBay) before you even consider the $30 price of the upgraded CPU.
As an interesting fact of the history of computers it was worth a video but to buy!!!!
I upgraded my old eMachines e525 with 2-core CPU, more RAM and SSD, and it's become pretty mush usable even with windows 10, everything works just fine, which made me wonder honestly. It really feels like decent laptop capable to do some work even today.
Didn't expect that from 2010 laptop, more than 10 years in use. With new battery it's works almost like new, exept from display. It's very obvious old tech LCD which really looks old and bad by modern standarts, have very low brightness and overall image quality.
I have a ECS/Uniwill L51** series laptop (this one is GQ/Frys!) that is waiting for the Core Duo T2500 and Intel 3945abg card to arrive to bring to Centrino specs. Everything except 1 memory slot under keyboard is easily accessable under 1 cover.
It's why I'm still running on 3rd gen Hardware cuz it was still upgradable
Improve the CPU, RAM and I changed the HDD for an SSD. i swapped the 32 bit cpu for a 64 bit one and the laptop came back to life. It's an Acer 5670 from 2007.
I saw your laptop service tag number, and I'm gonna steal it :D