Correction: I mistyped George Clooney. I no longer think he is an Fi type. For an example of a male celebrity who aged while keeping typical Fi smile lines, see Russell Crowe.
As someone with a Fi smile, I always found people with Fe smiles so beautiful! Or rather the way they smile was beautiful to me, it looks very hollywood and charming!
Judging from the first two comments so far, I am not the only one of your subscribers who was pleasantly surprised to see a video from you pop up on my feed. I found this video fascinating and informative for so many reasons that I will refrain from listing them here, lest I fall into an INTP discourse/monologue/ramble . . . I will say, though, in response to your comment "I might get work done as well" (At around 6:40), that I sincerely hope you will resist the temptation to undergo treatment with Botox or any other similar neurotoxin substance to give yourself a "smoother" facial appearance. Even though you don't appear in this video, I can well recall the lively warmth of your natural facial expressions. And I would be sad to see you limit this natural gift through which you convey so much of yourself in pursuit of an artificial standard of beauty.
this is soo interesting lol . ive always called Fe smile , fake cause ( as an Fi aux ) thats literally my ' fake smile ' i do when i take pictures lol . my real smile is much more dorky & not so phtotogenic , i guess lol . just a physical manifestation of the different feeling attitudes & their values , intentions , etc . i suppose . ive also noticed those lines on the side of my nose & while i personally dont exactly like how it looks .. im starting to accept them . its just a tell of life & happiness / joy overtime :) i think its a beautful thing .
Welcome back. We were just wondering a couple of days ago where you had got to. You make some very interesting points concerning differences in personality facial types. I'm really starting to pick peoples personality by appearance.
So glad to see you're back and I'm really amazed at this topic. I was just thinking about 'Fi smiles' before this video appeared on my feed haha and now I'm sure this is a real thing.
P.S. what a creative, innovative idea for a video, by the way. Completely unique, and totally engrossing. I’m a fine arts professor, an artist, obviously, and I really like your avatar as well. I love INFPs.
I love this topic. It is fascinating that the way someone smiles gives that much info of the person's brain. Great work! It is so funny that Fi users always wish they had the Fe smile xD
The other day, I made a comment about a new kpop celebrity named Gabi from Blackswan. I was speculating that she was an INFJ due to body language, including her smile. Someone told me that you have to go off of the functions, but once you come across many people of the same type, you'll recognize similarities in their demenour, voice, and facial expressions.
@@moondust1798 ENFPs can be stiff like that if they are bullied. My ENFP friend was bullied for always moving her body and then she became "stiff". Chaewon is an idol, I can't even fathom how much hate she would get for a " Fidgety body "
I find facial structure itself also dictates if people will easily get nasal folds. If people's whole teeth and mouth (maxilla) are recessed backwards (so further back than ideal) then people get that certain type of nasal folds that old people get. In old people, the teeth are recessing backwards more and more and pushing the lips inward, which gives the impression of thinner lips (while the lip does not really have ot be thinner, but just positioned differently). I find a lot of ESFP''s have protruding chins , but recessed mouth areas (maxillas), which results in them having 'thin lips' and nasal folds, as a consequence of their teeth being so far back. However, they tend to have a wide palate, which gives them a wide mouth, with thin lips. Also, because their mouth is pressed inwards so much, this pushes the lower part of their nose downwards a bit, which decreases the distance between their lips and mouth. The other group of people that tend to get nasal folds are the people that have an outwardly protruding mouth/teeth area. Darker people (black people or darker asians) more often tend to have this protruding mouth area. They get Nasal folds because their mouth are sticks out forward more than the rest of the face. Basically the more definition a face has like protruding chin, cheekbones, mouth area, forehead or anything else, the more likely a person is going to get wrinkles there, simply because the skin is stretched around so many different shapes in the face. Also, if people use growth hormone, then the bones of the lower part of their face will will increase in size slowly grow outward too, which means they will also get more nasal folds (hence bodybuilders can get them that use HGH) Consequently, the people that get the lowest amount of such wrinkles are the people that have not much definition (shape) in their face. So basically people who have a head like an egg without many parts that stick out one way or the other. What is an interesting though is how the tension of the muscle use eventually will influence the shape of the face, as bones can not be moved with instant huge forces (like falling on the ground), but they can be moved by slower and extended pressures (which dental appliances for example do). Also, the position of the tongue will influence the face shape, as pressure of the tongue of the roof of the mouth forces the growth to be forward to, as it prevents the bone to grow downwards. Also, what is interesting is that the degree development of muscles people have on their face is different. For example, I find Fe doms tend to have a lot of developed muscles in their face , because they tend to emote so much. Basically they aren not bodybuilders, but rather "face builders". Types like Ti doms on the other hand tend to have a lack of developed muscles in the face, because there usually is a lack of motion/tension in their face. Ahh..I can type about such subjects all day! However, to come back ot the subject, this is an interesting video and I gotta say that the name of the video is very catchy "The elimination of Fi smiles in pop culture". It's an interesting question whether indeed the emotion connected to the expression is also eliminates the matching emotion. If you are stressed you get stiff neck muscles, but I also indeed find that when I just have stiff neck muscles _without_ any cause of stress involved, I also perceive more stress even if there is not any problem that causes it. So it makes sense they are connected. It would be intersting to find out if you botox certain neck muscles for example in order to not experience that emotion. I find that the connection betwene biology and psychology is not enough touched, while I think it's the key to understand so many things about our psychology. The body and the mind are one! By the way, good to see you are back!
Fascinating! I've always equated Fe to a socially "appropriate" emotional expression. Its wild to think that we could even have this subconscious societal pressure to erase the effects of the less "appropriate" feeling function. Kwazy cupcakes...no botox for me. You cant take my fi wrinkles 😜💪
This is so weird, literally today a few hours ago, I was like "Huh, I wonder if she'll post again." I went outside, went for a swim, and it immediately started raining, so I went inside and boom. Your post. Literally right after I had checked your channel. W.T.F.
Very interesting correlation that could very well be due to Fi and Fe! Makes me wish that mbti was explored and respected more as a potentially valid way of indicating personality as there really is a lot that can be explained by it! I think both kinds of smiles are beautiful in their own way and neither need to be discouraged. It sucks that Fi smiles are, oftentimes :/ Aside from that, glad to see you back! :)
Really wish you didn't delete the book accompaniment video. I bought your book but its hard to get any use out of it since you removed any videos that actually show the subconscious cues like body language and vocal tone.
The facial feedback theory and its implications are fascinating. It’s not just literally numbing the muscles, its numbing the felt emotion too. What will be the consequences of this when stigma for getting work done continues to decrease in society and more people start getting Botox?
I just started getting Botox at 51. I am an introvert who tries hard to be extraverted so I put a lot of effort into facial expressions to interact with others. Since getting my facial muscles relaxed, I have relaxed! It's very healthy for me personally. And it's been fascinating to notice in myself...but yes, I agree with your bigger picture implications!
I have an Fi smile, it seems. I get regular botox, but not on my nasolabial fold, but I have good skincare and have had pdo threading, which hides visibility well on a good day. The smile lines bother me most, and I avoid too much smiling if I can help it 😅 My clinic doesn't tend to do injections on patients' smile lines interestingly. INTJ
Because your and their system have some similarities, I'm curious what you think pf Vultology and CognitiveType. Aside from that, its great to see you upload again, and yes, Hollywood standards does cause a lot of homogeneity like this, unfortunately.
It's just a very stupid theory but I find it extremely funny. It just made me think that types with the lowest feeling functions must have the least wrinkles because their emotions show less on their face. Having the Sensing function the lowest might also be a requirement in order to not be very in tune with body awareness so you won't instinctively contract muscles. According to these parameters, the types who would conserve their skin the best would be the Intuitive Thinkers: INTP, ENTP, INTJ, ENTJ,
Or it's a just a cultural thing. Like in UK they are much more inclined to make Fi smiles, scrunchies around the nose and looking awkward in face. Americans I think are 50/50 but like you said in Hollywood or if you are popular person in school or want to be perceived as confident then you would make wide and simple Fe smile. And some other cultures don't have Fi almost at all. So I think typing on body language can't be right. Also what with people who have ADHD which is actually A LOT or people on Autism spectrum which there's also many?
@@ActingCEOofGoogle Ah, I see, it seems to be working better now, thanks! Btw, I wasn't trying to change my own natural smile, I just wanted to be able to do it in another way. For some reason, trying to do an "Fi smile", seems to vaguely trigger what feels like introverted feeling senses kinda like how people say smiling when you're sad can make you happy. I wonder why this is.
@@Bubbles-od2tv Animators in the 60s and afterwards. But the ones that made that approach more mainstream were the Pod'Lair folks many years ago. Both Calypso and Auburn (Cognitive Typology/vultology) plagiarized Pod'Lair, but Auburn is the biggest plagiarist amongst those two.
What people who only smile with their eyes? No nose scrunching, basically your eyes just close like the guy from the Spiderman movies who played Harry.
Correction: I mistyped George Clooney. I no longer think he is an Fi type. For an example of a male celebrity who aged while keeping typical Fi smile lines, see Russell Crowe.
No, he’s totes magoats FE. -INFJ
Is that “older” woman Colleen Dewhurst perchance? She was a heavy smoker as well.
OMG YOU'RE BACK!!!! It's so great to hear from you again! Hope to see more content from you
The elusive INFP….-the elusive INFJ
Really missed your videos !!
It’s nice to have you back, very interesting material btw
This looks really interesting. I'm excited to watch this. Nice to see one of your videos pop up
This video was so nice I'm so happy you posted again! I hope you're feeling better.
As someone with a Fi smile, I always found people with Fe smiles so beautiful! Or rather the way they smile was beautiful to me, it looks very hollywood and charming!
Judging from the first two comments so far, I am not the only one of your subscribers who was pleasantly surprised to see a video from you pop up on my feed. I found this video fascinating and informative for so many reasons that I will refrain from listing them here, lest I fall into an INTP discourse/monologue/ramble . . .
I will say, though, in response to your comment "I might get work done as well" (At around 6:40), that I sincerely hope you will resist the temptation to undergo treatment with Botox or any other similar neurotoxin substance to give yourself a "smoother" facial appearance. Even though you don't appear in this video, I can well recall the lively warmth of your natural facial expressions. And I would be sad to see you limit this natural gift through which you convey so much of yourself in pursuit of an artificial standard of beauty.
this is soo interesting lol . ive always called Fe smile , fake cause ( as an Fi aux ) thats literally my ' fake smile ' i do when i take pictures lol . my real smile is much more dorky & not so phtotogenic , i guess lol . just a physical manifestation of the different feeling attitudes & their values , intentions , etc . i suppose . ive also noticed those lines on the side of my nose & while i personally dont exactly like how it looks .. im starting to accept them . its just a tell of life & happiness / joy overtime :) i think its a beautful thing .
As an Fe inferior type, my genuine smiles & my fake smiles look exactly the same on the bottom half of my face, only the eyes can give me away.
Welcome back. We were just wondering a couple of days ago where you had got to. You make some very interesting points concerning differences in personality facial types. I'm really starting to pick peoples personality by appearance.
So glad to see you're back and I'm really amazed at this topic. I was just thinking about 'Fi smiles' before this video appeared on my feed haha and now I'm sure this is a real thing.
Glad to see you return with a new vid!
P.S. what a creative, innovative idea for a video, by the way. Completely unique, and totally engrossing. I’m a fine arts professor, an artist, obviously, and I really like your avatar as well. I love INFPs.
Thats why Marilyn Monroe would change her naturally smile to make it more appealing
Missed your videos! This is a great one! Hope you make more! :)
I love this topic. It is fascinating that the way someone smiles gives that much info of the person's brain. Great work! It is so funny that Fi users always wish they had the Fe smile xD
Wow you are back! Was surprised to see you back on my feed.
The other day, I made a comment about a new kpop celebrity named Gabi from Blackswan. I was speculating that she was an INFJ due to body language, including her smile. Someone told me that you have to go off of the functions, but once you come across many people of the same type, you'll recognize similarities in their demenour, voice, and facial expressions.
omg Blackswan stan!! the taste!!
@@catd8929 Heeeeey! Lol What do you think about Gabi? Do you think she's an INFJ?
@@moondust1798 chaewon is ENFP sp2
@@moondust1798 ENFPs can be stiff like that if they are bullied. My ENFP friend was bullied for always moving her body and then she became "stiff". Chaewon is an idol, I can't even fathom how much hate she would get for a " Fidgety body "
@@moondust1798 wdym by that? There is nothing like that..
Missed you!!!!! Thanks for the video!
Glad to see you back !!
Glad you are back!!!! Your videos have been a great source for learning about other types!! 🥰
I find facial structure itself also dictates if people will easily get nasal folds. If people's whole teeth and mouth (maxilla) are recessed backwards (so further back than ideal) then people get that certain type of nasal folds that old people get. In old people, the teeth are recessing backwards more and more and pushing the lips inward, which gives the impression of thinner lips (while the lip does not really have ot be thinner, but just positioned differently). I find a lot of ESFP''s have protruding chins , but recessed mouth areas (maxillas), which results in them having 'thin lips' and nasal folds, as a consequence of their teeth being so far back. However, they tend to have a wide palate, which gives them a wide mouth, with thin lips. Also, because their mouth is pressed inwards so much, this pushes the lower part of their nose downwards a bit, which decreases the distance between their lips and mouth.
The other group of people that tend to get nasal folds are the people that have an outwardly protruding mouth/teeth area. Darker people (black people or darker asians) more often tend to have this protruding mouth area. They get Nasal folds because their mouth are sticks out forward more than the rest of the face.
Basically the more definition a face has like protruding chin, cheekbones, mouth area, forehead or anything else, the more likely a person is going to get wrinkles there, simply because the skin is stretched around so many different shapes in the face. Also, if people use growth hormone, then the bones of the lower part of their face will will increase in size slowly grow outward too, which means they will also get more nasal folds (hence bodybuilders can get them that use HGH)
Consequently, the people that get the lowest amount of such wrinkles are the people that have not much definition (shape) in their face. So basically people who have a head like an egg without many parts that stick out one way or the other.
What is an interesting though is how the tension of the muscle use eventually will influence the shape of the face, as bones can not be moved with instant huge forces (like falling on the ground), but they can be moved by slower and extended pressures (which dental appliances for example do). Also, the position of the tongue will influence the face shape, as pressure of the tongue of the roof of the mouth forces the growth to be forward to, as it prevents the bone to grow downwards.
Also, what is interesting is that the degree development of muscles people have on their face is different. For example, I find Fe doms tend to have a lot of developed muscles in their face , because they tend to emote so much. Basically they aren not bodybuilders, but rather "face builders". Types like Ti doms on the other hand tend to have a lack of developed muscles in the face, because there usually is a lack of motion/tension in their face.
Ahh..I can type about such subjects all day!
However, to come back ot the subject, this is an interesting video and I gotta say that the name of the video is very catchy "The elimination of Fi smiles in pop culture". It's an interesting question whether indeed the emotion connected to the expression is also eliminates the matching emotion. If you are stressed you get stiff neck muscles, but I also indeed find that when I just have stiff neck muscles _without_ any cause of stress involved, I also perceive more stress even if there is not any problem that causes it. So it makes sense they are connected. It would be intersting to find out if you botox certain neck muscles for example in order to not experience that emotion.
I find that the connection betwene biology and psychology is not enough touched, while I think it's the key to understand so many things about our psychology. The body and the mind are one!
By the way, good to see you are back!
Wow, you should start a channel!
Fascinating! I've always equated Fe to a socially "appropriate" emotional expression. Its wild to think that we could even have this subconscious societal pressure to erase the effects of the less "appropriate" feeling function. Kwazy cupcakes...no botox for me. You cant take my fi wrinkles 😜💪
YOURE BACK?!
Literally looked you up yesterday wondering if you’d been back on. Welcome back! Hope you’re doing well.
This is so weird, literally today a few hours ago, I was like "Huh, I wonder if she'll post again." I went outside, went for a swim, and it immediately started raining, so I went inside and boom. Your post. Literally right after I had checked your channel. W.T.F.
yay you posted again!!
Welcome back!!! Great video ❤
Very interesting correlation that could very well be due to Fi and Fe! Makes me wish that mbti was explored and respected more as a potentially valid way of indicating personality as there really is a lot that can be explained by it!
I think both kinds of smiles are beautiful in their own way and neither need to be discouraged. It sucks that Fi smiles are, oftentimes :/
Aside from that, glad to see you back! :)
Natural is so much more appealing than botox and anything artificial.
Really wish you didn't delete the book accompaniment video. I bought your book but its hard to get any use out of it since you removed any videos that actually show the subconscious cues like body language and vocal tone.
Welcome back!
More videos????
Yay you’re back!
The facial feedback theory and its implications are fascinating. It’s not just literally numbing the muscles, its numbing the felt emotion too. What will be the consequences of this when stigma for getting work done continues to decrease in society and more people start getting Botox?
I just started getting Botox at 51. I am an introvert who tries hard to be extraverted so I put a lot of effort into facial expressions to interact with others. Since getting my facial muscles relaxed, I have relaxed! It's very healthy for me personally. And it's been fascinating to notice in myself...but yes, I agree with your bigger picture implications!
YES THISSS!!
I thought I was crazy thinking about my Fi smile
Though maybe Katy Perry is Fe
When will you release your next video calypso?
Missed you Calypso!!!
I like this type of videos that are backed up with real life people examples
Wow, excellent analysis
I've been binging the old stuff randomly the last weeks. It was preparation for they. Down with objective personality lol
I have an Fi smile, it seems. I get regular botox, but not on my nasolabial fold, but I have good skincare and have had pdo threading, which hides visibility well on a good day. The smile lines bother me most, and I avoid too much smiling if I can help it 😅 My clinic doesn't tend to do injections on patients' smile lines interestingly. INTJ
Omg! Calypso, you're back! It has been a very long while! 😭💗
Because your and their system have some similarities, I'm curious what you think pf Vultology and CognitiveType.
Aside from that, its great to see you upload again, and yes, Hollywood standards does cause a lot of homogeneity like this, unfortunately.
It's just a very stupid theory but I find it extremely funny. It just made me think that types with the lowest feeling functions must have the least wrinkles because their emotions show less on their face. Having the Sensing function the lowest might also be a requirement in order to not be very in tune with body awareness so you won't instinctively contract muscles. According to these parameters, the types who would conserve their skin the best would be the Intuitive Thinkers: INTP, ENTP, INTJ, ENTJ,
I'm so glad you're here and hopefully okay❤. Are you familiar with Objective Personality? Wdyt?
Tjis is an interesting video. Thanks for posting again.🎉
how do u decide what smile is fi and fe? it makes sense intuitively but why?
what if someones smile moves to both directions? wide and up?
If you tend to be introverted, can you move along the introversion and extroversion continuum and become tending to be extroverted? ?
Or it's a just a cultural thing. Like in UK they are much more inclined to make Fi smiles, scrunchies around the nose and looking awkward in face. Americans I think are 50/50 but like you said in Hollywood or if you are popular person in school or want to be perceived as confident then you would make wide and simple Fe smile. And some other cultures don't have Fi almost at all. So I think typing on body language can't be right. Also what with people who have ADHD which is actually A LOT or people on Autism spectrum which there's also many?
Awesome 😎!
Hi. As INFP do you know your eneatype?
How do you do the "Fi smile"?
I tried to smile, but it feels like I physically can't do it without moving my lips horizontally.
@@ActingCEOofGoogle
Yeah, but how do I do it tho?
@@ActingCEOofGoogle
Ah, I see, it seems to be working better now, thanks!
Btw, I wasn't trying to change my own natural smile, I just wanted to be able to do it in another way.
For some reason, trying to do an "Fi smile", seems to vaguely trigger what feels like introverted feeling senses kinda like how people say smiling when you're sad can make you happy.
I wonder why this is.
So that's why Kim kardashian looks so stiff in the face
Hey I know you use Margot Robbie as Fe, but she’s actually INTJ, her smile was probably trained lol
3:38 this this lol
لا تنشروا اي شيء محرم مثل الموسيقى و صور البنات لانه ذنب جاري
Yas.
1:50 wait why are the lines so uneven?
Fi smiles want to be more an Fe smile?????
🧡
The FI smile is so adorable, to we, the FE. -INFJ
plagiarist
Who was the original?
@@Bubbles-od2tv Animators in the 60s and afterwards. But the ones that made that approach more mainstream were the Pod'Lair folks many years ago. Both Calypso and Auburn (Cognitive Typology/vultology) plagiarized Pod'Lair, but Auburn is the biggest plagiarist amongst those two.
What people who only smile with their eyes? No nose scrunching, basically your eyes just close like the guy from the Spiderman movies who played Harry.
Hii what is your enneatype😊?