It was built on south African land and by a South African budget....The western cape must go and start their own country somewhere else, not in South Africa. Thanks 🙂
The western cape must start it's own country elsewhere? What do You mean the western cape? What You mean is the White man has to go home to Europe and Establish themselves there and not on Black people's turf.
The best opportunity to get rid of destruction from a once lavish country. Let's keep the Western Cape in its beautiful current state. We're behind you Phil, thank you for spreading these positive words of hope to our people. Vote Referendum Party for Peace of mind. I'll definitely do MY part!!
@@anetpieterse1298 You mean a beautiful Lavish that were ment for Pink skinned people only? Evil will never last forever, that's why that system never lasted because it was a pure Evil.
Voting for the Referendum Party is the only solution to force the DA to call for a Referendum and hopefully get Allan Windgat voted out of his almighty position. The DA lost my vote years ago.
Penuel the Black Pen, a prolific Zulu podcaster has spoken about the possibility of the Great Zululand gaining it’s Freedom of Self Governance before the Western Cape does, I say we do it simultaneously💯🫡✊🏾
@@TheRealDonaldBrown If you don't build your future dreams in this current South Africa, then you are free to build that future dream of your outside South Africa, maybe in Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi or maybe in Finland.
Race talk aside, fact is that central governance has never worked in this country. From the British to the Afrikaner and now the African, all failed in central governance. It’s never been the way as history proves so yes, I’m all for independent provincial governance
White South Africans in the Western Cape acknowledge that the chances of gaining power over the country again are very low. They decided to break away from the rest of South Africa because they do not want to be governed by black people. They justify their choice by expressing their wish for independence from the ANC leadership because they feel suppressed. Even though the apartheid government oppressed the country's residents, it is curious that those in the Western Cape did not feel the urge to secede because they were benefiting from it. Since 1994, the ANC has never managed to achieve a victory in the Western Cape, underscoring a notable fact. I sympathize with Cape Coloureds in the Western Cape for supporting whites; they seem to have forgotten that Coloured people were marginalized during apartheid and have been influenced by oppressors to see themselves as superior to black people. This is why they opt to be governed by white individuals, thinking they are superior to black South Africans
@@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi Someone suggested that the ANC government could make the EC and the WC one province. I don't know if this is really a good idea, but as I can see that the colonialists are fighting back now, I would support it.
@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi . Your angle of looking on SA problem is very skewed. Look maybee at facts and not at some of the facts. Outdated forced ideological applications of economic and socialist laws by ANC, resulted in destruction of whole country. Color of your skin you cannot choice. How you think, what choices you make is complex work of everybody brain. It is up to you develop this power and benefit from this eventually. 🤔
No land will in Africa be an independent country for European. Forget about it i can tell you. Western Cape is our land, if you all have problem with that, you can go to Europe and ask for a piece of land there where this Phil Graig is coming from. He's a foreigner here coming to tell us what to do with our country. F him and all that support his nonsense. Europeans so obnoxious and really undermining Africans to an extent that they believe that they can just come to Africa and just do as they wish even if is to claim piece of land. This is really disgusting
Good speech Phil, pity that so many voters do not see the better future as an independent state. Do they really believe that life would be better with an ANC/EFF national government? I am disheartened by such a lack of vision.
You are still stuck in the Matrix. Voting away from DA might cause DA to lose key metros and back to ANC. It is a fine balance. Ideally Cape independence is the best solution but not at the cost of short term losses
@@intellifly747 The DA had a opportunity to call a referendum alongside the coming elections, and they decided against calling for one, they believe their time will be better served gunning for more votes in the rest of SA neglecting the Western Cape voter that still pledged some sort of loyalty to them, Their seeds are being planted on Barron ground( RSA)... So they chose to risk the Western Cape people at their own expense..., so what must be.... must be...! May God the father can help us🙏
@@davidoctober788 I don't understand you.... You ask an imaginary being for help and guidance, and yet he sent you a political party that isn't corrupt to the core, isn't afraid to take on the taxi bosses, gives clean municipal audits after clean municipal audit, cities and towns that are clean, and creates income and jobs for people, and yet you are prepared to move away from that in support of Phil Craig. Now let me tell you a little something about Phil Craig. He isn't South African. So immediately I wonder what his motivation is for discussing anything related to South African governance. He is English, and it was the English who a.) Created the first laws that led to Apartheid in the early parts of the 19th century; b.) Started the Groot Trek because the white settlers didn't want to be governed by a European monarchy, which is why they came to South Africa; c.) Started all the animosity between White and Black South Africans by causing the Xhosa and Zulu Wars; d.) Left thousands of Boer women and children to rot with disease and starve to death in Concentration Camps in the Second Anglo-Boer War and they still over 100 years later deny they ever did anything wrong; e.) Through a politically connected PR Firm in London, sought to assist Jacob Zuma with spin doctoring, thus creating the Radical Economic Transformation cabal, which seeks to murder all white people in this country, and led indirectly to the July 2021 Riots where more than 300 South Africans were killed, billions of Rands lost in damages and theft, countless businesses closed and lost, and countless more people left unemployed. You trust Phil Craig over the DA? Well then maybe we do need god's help, sooner rather than later..... Because I will trust Jacob Zuma before I trust an English person. I will vote ANC before I let an English person tell South Africa how to govern itself, and I will subjugate my children to the Mugabe wannabes in the EFF before I allow Phil Craig and his bunch of hypocritical, dishonest Lords and Ladies of the British Empire any where near a ballot paper in this country. Indeed, may god help us all if you're too ignorant to know what English people have done to this country and her people.
@@alanmexico01 South Africa itself its an independent state that caters a multiracial nation, Western Cape its a part of South Africa. Apartheid government tried that to separate South Africans it never lasted, so that Racial Narrative will never succeed. South Africa consists of 9 provinces and Western Cape is one of them kant en Klaar.
I've watched it all my life. People from Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, etc., moved down to Rhodesia, then everyone left there when it became Zimbabwe, came south and now it's down to the Cape. Surely at some stage there has to be a realisation that you either leave Africa or learn to live with the Africans and expect bad government, taking care of your own needs as you see fit. Population growth alone surely tells you that eventually the Cape will also be swamped and all this will be for nothing.
The fact that U confirm & use the words that WE ALL must expect bad government, is shocking & tells me all i & majority of South Africans/ Africans need to know about Yr Intellect & way of thinking, The ONLY reason that Cape Independence/ Cape Exit has been presented as a possible option is because, South Africa is governed by a Party called the ANC, they we’re handed a Kingdom of South Africa on a Silver Platter, they have driven this beautiful thriving country into the ground & its Citizens are suffering for it, So yes if it did come to it, i myself may think of possibly relocating to the Cape, if change does not come after this years elections, because as a business owner who used to own 3 businesses, i employed 347 staff, during covid & now the continuing loadshedding i have had to close 2 of those businesses, regrettable, i tried everything to Save those 2 businesses, i even Sold my house that my family lived in, to carry the Wages for another 4 months in hope we can trade out of the situation, but sadly with loadshedding, it has destroyed our economy, i regrettably let go of 310 staff members, people who i called family, because most of them worked & help me build those 2 businesses for over 14years, now I’m trying to save my last business, Yr thought process is shocking, All the Cape Independence/ Cape Exit wants is for the Cape to be able to Govern themselves & not answer to a Ruling Government in Pta, who does not care about their Citizens, U should actually rethink yr message u posted & then delete it, because if we do not have a New Government later this year, I’m afraid we are heading the Route of Zimbabwe & that is a Fact, this has absolutely nothing to do with the “West”, if that’s how U think, then U clearly are a Racist yrself, we do NOT need people like U,
Cape Independence is impossible now due to demographic changes. Blacks will be majority by 2029. Coloureds were over 70% in 1994, and NOW down to 42% and the black population is 39% in 2022 as per the last western cape census in 2022.
Hazel this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with "living with Africans". As a hard working tax payer, if you are willing to settle for less then ok- but We want a place where good governance is the New Normal. This Independance includes blacks, coloureds, whites and *everybody* who wants a better future. I lived abroad for 9 years and am back to work for a better future.
After the DA supporters vote for the DA they will realise their vote has been for the ANC as the DA go into coalition with the ANC. Then the necessity of Cape Independence will become relevant.
Due to demographic changes, it's impossible for Cape Independence now. Arguably 2009 was the last chance but maybe 2014 it would of been possible. I would argue KZN independence is more likely but slim chance of it taking place.
@@Truthseeker-iz3dj Partly agree. Demographics are still good if you can co-opt a credible Coloured leader as the face of the campaign. Agree KZN is the route to Cape Independence as they would imply power and violence which will be met with appeasement from the S.A. government.
DA voters now have the opportunity to add more weight to their vote. A vote for the RP is still a vote for a DA led Western Cape government with one added benefit being that the voters will now get the opportunity to hold a referendum.
@@Truthseeker-iz3djAs long as the Western Cape people don't vote ANC and EFF, your argument is completely false or you are missing the point of Western Cape independence. It's not about Demographics necessarily.. it's about Western culture and capitalist outlook. Besides, Afrikaans is only prevalent in the Western Cape province, no matter "demographics'.
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I think the only way The Cape would ever be granted it’s Freedom of Self Governance, is with the support from the native Kweh Kweh populations, Africa would allow the birth of another nation, but it must be in African hands, therefore it is only the Kweh Kweh that have the right to decide the future of their ancestral lands💯 Phill Craig must find a way to build a relationship with them💯🙏❤️❤️❤️
if you live well, you do well, dream well and there can be no stop to thinking of a possible castle in the sky. Others are lightways away, let alone on dreaming but on even surviving to make it to another day.
Anglos always want the best of everything. Instead of taking it brutally as they did all over the world in the past, they are trying other strategies. Read what Dr. Aruna Khalilani says about this inclination. Tolerance for Orania opened the door for this madness.
Wow, suddenly Cape Independence looks like a possibility and an alternative solution for the Western Cape and it's place and space in a future South Africa. If the idea of Cape Independence is a genuine concept for the goodwill of all the people of the Western Cape regardless of race colour or creed and not a desperate attempt to preserve white privilege a' referendum solution' makes sense. A DA/IDM led multi party coalition of all left wing liberal party's could make this a workable solution. I'm in.
If Phil has all these brilliant ideas why didn’t he make them work back home? Can people stop following blindly. He has no proof of concept and is causing needless division and pain.
Have supported since CapeXit days. It is “An idea whose time has come” ..calling it a Referendum Party for this election is I feel, a mistake. Cape Independence Party is the honest visionary name. I will vote for them regardless of name. Common sense. If the people lead, eventually the leaders will follow .. and SA will be the geographic 🌈 country it was meant to be. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ to Phil Craig.
The last Referendum was concerning ending apartheid. So 30 years Later we deserve a Referendum as according to elections western Cape people don't vote in ANC to suffer Reverse Apardheid
I suggest you read up on the Scottish referendum. It was only allowed to happen because London agreed. They would have had to honour some commitments based on the outcome . Also, read up on the Catalan referendum from Spain. That one was deemed unconstitutional because Madrid did not give the go-ahead . So, the same applies here. You cannot hold the referendum in isolation and then expect Pretoria to honour it. WC would have to seek permission from Pretoria because the outcomes have consequences beyond WC.
@DP-ho9if The point here in the examples I listed is that the seat of power in that country has a say even if a referendum is held. The constitution does not operate in a vacuum. (Executive, legislature & judiciary). If regions of any country could just have a referendum and leave, then Scotland and Catalan would be independent countries. The DA actually knows this, that is why they haven't called the referendum even though they hold the majority in WC and the constitution allows. If you research any country where secession was successful, the seat of power allowed it to happen. For example, the Soviet Union would not have broken up if Russia didn't allow it.
It will be very interesting to see how the Majority will behave on this election. I forsee DA shrinking...Majority in the Cape dont be fooled...WC would still be divided and Africans will surely suffer more spiritualy and mentally.
I think the DA will be watching support from places like Umngeni and surrounding areas where Pappas has been an absolute superstar for the people, if the DA doesn't win from the Umngeni area they may aswell give up national ambitions at that point. The IEC electorial map does break the voter counts per metropolitan area even though it's not the municipal elections in case someone here asks.
The MOST important point is at 14:36 on the DA's zero progress towards devolution in the Cape. The chances of Federalism is equally slim. But, the very idea of a referendum is extremely hated by black pan-Africans.
Pan Africanists or African Nationalists, are a minority in the Western Cape. The people of the Western Cape have always voted towards a Western and more capitalist culture.
I notice that he has a British accent. What he seems to miss out on in his entire speech is legality. I have sympathy for the Cape wishing for independence but it would simply be against South African and international law. Bits of countries simply cannot decide to be independent. The central government will declare it illegal and put a stop to it. It's as simple as that. That is why the idea, including the DA, is understandably never taken seriously.
I have read the above messages, and noticed with much interest the talk about division in our country(thanks to the ranting of politicians). I have lived half my life under the National party and the other half under the ANC, none of which i support. Working for SAA i saw the demise of one of the top 5 airlines in the world and thousands of jobs being lost post 1994. Moving abroad to work for another airline, after which i returned and happily paid my taxes hoping to support the government in its quest to improve the lot of its citizens. Instead i found politicians causing divisions amongst the races for their own political gains. Now along comes an Englishman who has a heart for this land and doesn't stand around the braai complaining about how bad everything is but instead gets up and does something about it. He could just pack his bags and move his family abroad. Shame on you citizens who mock what he's trying to do. He's simply setting up a system whereby we can express our democratic right to hold a Referendum. Lets Stop with all the racial stuff. I was beaten up by 3 Indian teens when i was 7 years old, do i dislike Indians- No. My Mom and Dads best friends were Indian. I carry a scar of a stone thrown at me by black guys in the 1975 riots. Di i dislike black people- No. All we want is a better future for ourselves HERE, Not abroad. We have a right to this. Think obout this the next time you want to slate those of us who are doing something for a better future.
I live in the Western Cape. I am coloured. Some of the ideas you mentioned were good. But I fear that if the Western Cape becomes a state, every white racist will come, unfettered capitalism will worsen inequality and life expectancy overall for non whites will just become worse
This guy is saying people from Western Cape voted when most of us don't even bother voting for such dumb debates. Only their ignorants will vote for them
@@halinaleonowicz8038 pro Africa means exactly that. Anything that has to do in advancing African interests. We have everything we need in Africa.... Minerals and resources. Being pro Africa means we produce what we consume, polish our own diamonds and gold... Etc....
@@WalterWhite-bc8ck . No, nobody have all resources, and due to this there is exchange and trades all over the world, peoples, busineses etc: in knowledge, extraction of minerals, manufacturing...long list. Some are better policies and laws, some have coruption. It is as it is...🤔 Do not underestimate complexity of the world today...
That went out the window when the revolutionaries drank long and deep of the Communist Kool-Aid. Besides, the terms Eastern and Western are only loosely geographical. They should read more as "pro-freedom" vs "pro-collectivist". African cultures generally tend to lean towards collectivism for straightforward and understandable reasons but recent history has also shown that they can be described as being stuck in the middle, grasping at the benefits of two incompatible concepts and ultimately failing at both.
@@halinaleonowicz8038 by all means yes trading is good however it's when we as African children wanted to be like the West or the East... And adopt their so called values and beliefs. Aren't we capable of thinking for ourselves? Are we not human beings with our own principles and values? There lies the issue. Pro west Pro east...🙄
@@veronicakarstel9126 ✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 South Africa belongs to all who stays in it, including Europeans foreigners only those with good manners, Western Cape we are going to fill it with people of all races in South Africa of all classes,we are going to turn it upside down, simply because it's a part of our beautiful land that were stolen by foreigners from our forefather.
I’ve voted Cape Party twice before. Now the Referendum Party pops up trying to split votes when they should have thrown their weight behind Cape Party. Why are they not working together? So I’m not sure I should vote for either one of them. The FF+ with their national footprint and coalition government partner also openly support cape independence.
They hàve tried to work together Ruan but the CIP rejected it unfortunately. But we as people should stand together and vote for one common goal. It`s our (all races in this province) future, we must make it work
It's not about left and right as always. It's about up and down. If wealth is not distributed evenly enough, those at the bottom radicalise to the point of revolution. Do you think an independent Western Cape will have any less of a problem in that regard? Unless it's a police state??
Economic growth and job creation goes hand in hand. The new WC will utilize all taxes generated for it's own benefit whereas they currently give 70% to the rest of SA. Those taxes van create hùge job opportunities and progress which in turn will attract foreign investment. Figures of 10% growth in GDP p.a. is achievable whereas SA's currently stands at 0.8% Inflation will drop to 1% Interest rates will drop to basically zero. The Exchange Rate will probably increase to ZAR1.50 to the GBP. Unemployment will drop to 5% within 10 years. Homelessness will decrease. Social welfare grants will increase for those in need and the elderly. Education standards will vastly increase. Public Health Services will radically improve Public Transport will become 1st world standard. Corporate taxes will reduce Personal income tax will reduce. Trade will explode. Job opportunities will increase tremendously. Crime will reduce dramatically. Prisons will largely stand empty. The only thing that will be negatively affected is the amounts corrupt officials and office bearers can steal because of better governance. I can go on and on and on, and no, I'm not delusional. Prove me wrong by voting for the RP and show me in 10 years where I missed the mark.
Yes it will have 1000 times less problems because it will have voters who understand that having decent paying jobs is more important than anything. Voters who don't think like you that you can split a cake for 100 people and still have the whole cake. Voters who realise you need to GROW the cake and make more cakes, and that splitting and fighting over one cake is going to chase away the bakers together with their ovens and flour!!!
Phil Craig deserves to be brought to trial for creating a split in South Africa. Phil, we are in Africa. If you desire to engage in that craziness, then go ahead and do it in Europe, your place of origin
The rest of South Africa - ANC and EFF does not want to lose the Western Cape, out of national ego pride and because it well knows, that an independent Western Cape would prosper well beyond the rest of South Africa and would then lead to migrants from South Africa trying to migrate into the Westurn Cape.
People tend to fear new things, especially if they do not understand it. Like when you were a child a feared the darkness, its only natural to fear new concepts❤
When a person gets old they they become very emotional and frank with their words. Who over call the shots on the DA, is such a person. Very old and cannot play a nice guy or disguise thier true intents on racial devision.
Here's an idea...a lot of foreigners love the Western Cape due to its beauty and low prices relative to their currencies. How about a property tax in the Western Cape that evens that out even by 20% and then pumps those funds into helping the people in need (mostly black and colored) in the province
And then the foreigners will choose to go to Brazil because that's cheaper and you will have more unemployment and poverty than ever before. You see this culture of discriminating against or milking people via discrimination, is exactly why we are a poor country and why we need to get away from the voters in the Provinces who think and vote like you and don't understand economics.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Property tax is essentially rent paid for your own land. A free market and economic opportunity is a far better solution than to yet another government policy that will inevitably be inefficient and wasteful. Let people decide what is best to spend their money on.
You cannot bring UK ideologies to South Africa. South Africa is not a nation of people who are unalive. We are very much alive, imperfect in our diversity, but we love it. I can feel it deep inside that this will never happen. We have a vision on how we want to live and you should respect that. I would never go to the UK and disrespect or disregard its people in the manner that you seek to undermine us Phil.
For western cape to be independent, the president has to declare a national referendum to fellow South Africans, unfortunately majority of South Africans will never vote for this nonsense to exist....
What this guy never does is talk about the practical steps. There will only be one political party. How do they create passports, id cards, police services, funding for hospitals, schools. How do they create a currency. Everything currently owned by the SA government will be withdrawn. What about people who have homes in other parts of the country. What about laws. Whenever i asked these kinds of questions they block me.
Read the Road To Independence extensive document that answers these questions on the CapeXit NPO website. After independence granted it wouldn’t be 1 party - they’re would be a transition period and then constitution and government would be decided by voting. The suggested route is a Canton system like Switzerland has.
@@chantz_a_loo The divorce process between the UK and the EU lasted years. And they consist of wealthy countries with structures created over centuries. And the UK was already an independent country. The Cape would need to create new structures while handling the divorce. Do you know how documents it takes to plan a new building in the city. Unfortunately some detailed documents for creating a new country are not enough.
it's understandable to want to break away- but it's stupid to waste energy and resources - it would never practically be possible or happen - why would the rest of us allow it ?- makes no sense for South Africa as a whole regardless of who the government is - stop wasting time get going with practical solutions for our real current situation right now!
I am a naturalized South African originally from Scotland. I came here in 1984. According to Mr Craig’s bio he has only been here 20 years. I am not arguing for/against Cape independence but I as a non born SA citizen would never have the gall to advocate for an event of such proportion. This should be decided by SA born electorate and the whole country should vote on it as it effects the whole country. Anyway, never going to happen. Catalan, Scottish independence as an example. What currency are they going to use?
@@anjieismynameNot necessarily. Take for instance if the whole of the UK was to vote on Scottish Independence, a large amount of English would vote to dump the Scots. Not saying the same sentiment exists in the non-Cape provinces but who can tell. My last point though is the important one; what currency will they use. The 2014 Scottish Independence referendum collapsed as the First Minister was unable to answer the question. All he said was Scotland would use the Pound to which the Central Bank, the BoE, said, no you won’t.
The Cape would also have to take with them a proportion of the South African debt. To pay for that the Cape Central Bank would have to issue bonds. Who would buy these bonds if they were issued in the ‘new’ Cape currency? How would the Cape Central Bank guarantee these bonds? This advocate for Independence does not address any of these issues.
As a trader myself, I’d happily dump my entire fortune into The Cape Shilling😂😂😂 just saying I’d support my new homeland just as much as I currently support the Western Cape, it is a very good question you are asking about the currency though
He says 68% of people are for cape independence, yet he cannot put together more than 200 signatures to contest the election in the western cape and prove this idea.
You are confusing the Referendum Party for the Cape Independence Party (CIP). It is the CIP that failed to get 200 signatures. Phil is from the Referendum Party
Ha ha, you believed that TikTok video. Ai ai, how do you think the RP got onto the ballot? More than 30 000 people endorsed the Referendum Party to contest this election. There are 59 other parties who didn`t manage that.
@wouterkabouter102 you're such a dreamer lmao... there are 7.43m people in western cape and white people are only 16% of that population... so it's obvious where that tiny number is coming from. The PA was definitely needed to stop that stupid dream of yours along with those 30 000 fools that wish to doom themselves. As it stands, Britain separated from the EU and has been suffering ever since, and they had the same complaints about other parts of the EU ruining the GDP, yet you guys want a small little "Cape"? What a joke. You're already struggling with the worst crimes in SA and have neglected the people of colour and have gangs terrorizing you along with illegal foreigners coming there, if you ever win such a nonsense idea to be independent, then you will be like Haiti, cause DA has starved the majority of people of colour there for all these years.
I would also like to know the answer💯, how ever I do understand that there is a mountain of things that still needs to be ‘figured out’ like Currency for example, all these vital pillars that the Cape will have to stand on, haven’t been figured out yet😅, maby you should ensure that your concerns are met by going to help RP❤
u are an opportunist...what were the reasons for u to leave UK and come to SA...U saw an opportunity to create more division of the people of SA.IF SA is falling apart leave it to people who cares about the whole country and try to fix it.
Do you know that this party doesn't want black people in Cape town lol ,🤦♂️ eish my black hayi hayi kunzima so say you want to be chased out Cape town
Apartheid Mindset.That instead of fixing the country together we give opportunity to racists to come with secessionist ideas.Lets work together and get the country working.Instead of wishing for apartheid.
The problem is that even good governance is not rewarded. People have flooded the western cape for jobs and better services and polls suggest EFF will gain 10% more vote in the province compared to 5 years ago. Even the ANC is gaining a few % more. How are you supposed to win? According to eNCA poll DA will lose about 8% of the vote from 55% to 47%
What exactly does "let's work together" mean? Is this not what South Africans have generally been doing for the past 30 years already? If so, then why is everything falling apart?
There's absolutely no racism in an Independent Western Cape. Every man and woman of all races can vote freely. In fact, contrary to racist South Africa, the people of the Western Cape want there to be no racist labels. You will not be defined by your skin colour. All people will just be human beings and not the label of the colour of their skins. Poor people will be uplifted not because of skin colour but because they need help to get jobs, education and become 1st World citizens. All people will be equal regardless of colour. The only ones who will be suffering are the criminals who won't be able to get rich off the backs and sufferings of honest citizens.
At least it`s better than voting for the ANC or EFF, so good on you Donald. But convincing the masses to step over to the right side in the rest of SA is far more challanging than getting the Western Cape saved.
The ANC will be replaced by another ANC. The majority of South African voters don't want a Western economy or Western principles. You are dreaming something that can never happen. But what can happen is we can vote out the ANC as we have been trying to do for 30 years in which time the Government we never voted for keeps being forced on us. Enough is enough. Its time we vote in a referendum for our independence.
He is funded by us the citizens, ordinary people wanting freedom, paying R100 here and R500 there for our cause. Remember that a poll done showed that 68% of the Western Cape people want a referendum, and many of us will pay a few R100 for one more step towards our Freedom.
It was built on south African land and by a South African budget....The western cape must go and start their own country somewhere else, not in South Africa. Thanks 🙂
What is South Africa though, it's simply a direction name...?
The western cape must start it's own country elsewhere? What do You mean the western cape? What You mean is the White man has to go home to Europe and Establish themselves there and not on Black people's turf.
I'm a Black African and I support them 😁 Cape Independence!
@@aem870 hopefully they can take you as a slave.
The people will decide.
The best opportunity to get rid of destruction from a once lavish country. Let's keep the Western Cape in its beautiful current state. We're behind you Phil, thank you for spreading these positive words of hope to our people. Vote Referendum Party for Peace of mind. I'll definitely do MY part!!
Lavish for who??? ahh white people.
@@anetpieterse1298 You mean a beautiful Lavish that were ment for Pink skinned people only? Evil will never last forever, that's why that system never lasted because it was a pure Evil.
Western Cape will get independence on the back of KZN independence. Once ANC loses KZN they will want their independence.
I think so too. Zupthas plan I think
Excellent point
Voting for the Referendum Party is the only solution to force the DA to call for a Referendum and hopefully get Allan Windgat voted out of his almighty position.
The DA lost my vote years ago.
Penuel the Black Pen, a prolific Zulu podcaster has spoken about the possibility of the Great Zululand gaining it’s Freedom of Self Governance before the Western Cape does, I say we do it simultaneously💯🫡✊🏾
What!! So Cape Independence is dependent on KZN independence? 😳
Now I'm starting to doubt the RP 🤔
He must go back to the UK and he can get his Cape there.
Foreign agent pushing colonial agenda here in South Africa.
I'm a Black African and I like this movement.
We can have the future of our dreams, but then we will have to vote for it! RP all the way!
@@TheRealDonaldBrown If you don't build your future dreams in this current South Africa, then you are free to build that future dream of your outside South Africa, maybe in Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi or maybe in Finland.
It has become an essential incident. I am constantly unpleasant because of my helplessness due to gov mess
I believe that the WC will move in a different direction than the rest of SA in the future.
And KZN
Race talk aside, fact is that central governance has never worked in this country. From the British to the Afrikaner and now the African, all failed in central governance. It’s never been the way as history proves so yes, I’m all for independent provincial governance
White South Africans in the Western Cape acknowledge that the chances of gaining power over the country again are very low. They decided to break away from the rest of South Africa because they do not want to be governed by black people. They justify their choice by expressing their wish for independence from the ANC leadership because they feel suppressed. Even though the apartheid government oppressed the country's residents, it is curious that those in the Western Cape did not feel the urge to secede because they were benefiting from it. Since 1994, the ANC has never managed to achieve a victory in the Western Cape, underscoring a notable fact. I sympathize with Cape Coloureds in the Western Cape for supporting whites; they seem to have forgotten that Coloured people were marginalized during apartheid and have been influenced by oppressors to see themselves as superior to black people. This is why they opt to be governed by white individuals, thinking they are superior to black South Africans
@@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi Someone suggested that the ANC government could make the EC and the WC one province. I don't know if this is really a good idea, but as I can see that the colonialists are fighting back now, I would support it.
@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi . Your angle of looking on SA problem is very skewed. Look maybee at facts and not at some of the facts.
Outdated forced ideological applications of economic and socialist laws by ANC, resulted in destruction of whole country.
Color of your skin you cannot choice. How you think, what choices you make is complex work of everybody brain. It is up to you develop this power and benefit from this eventually.
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@@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi an illiterate perspective.
@@selousscout9664 Cape Independent is a delusional perspective, as we all know that will never happen
Thanks Phil. We are behind you all the way.
No land will in Africa be an independent country for European. Forget about it i can tell you. Western Cape is our land, if you all have problem with that, you can go to Europe and ask for a piece of land there where this Phil Graig is coming from. He's a foreigner here coming to tell us what to do with our country. F him and all that support his nonsense. Europeans so obnoxious and really undermining Africans to an extent that they believe that they can just come to Africa and just do as they wish even if is to claim piece of land. This is really disgusting
@@PinePienaar-fp6nm 😂😂😂😂😂😂You can follow him all the way back to England not that marabastaad in South Africa
Something like the UAE will do wonders for the whole of South Africa. Well done Craig.
You have my vote and that of my whole family
Good speech Phil, pity that so many voters do not see the better future as an independent state. Do they really believe that life would be better with an ANC/EFF national government?
I am disheartened by such a lack of vision.
You are still stuck in the Matrix. Voting away from DA might cause DA to lose key metros and back to ANC. It is a fine balance. Ideally Cape independence is the best solution but not at the cost of short term losses
Or DA/ANC coalition
@@intellifly747 The DA had a opportunity to call a referendum alongside the coming elections, and they decided against calling for one, they believe their time will be better served gunning for more votes in the rest of SA neglecting the Western Cape voter that still pledged some sort of loyalty to them, Their seeds are being planted on Barron ground( RSA)... So they chose to risk the Western Cape people at their own expense..., so what must be.... must be...! May God the father can help us🙏
@@davidoctober788 I don't understand you....
You ask an imaginary being for help and guidance, and yet he sent you a political party that isn't corrupt to the core, isn't afraid to take on the taxi bosses, gives clean municipal audits after clean municipal audit, cities and towns that are clean, and creates income and jobs for people, and yet you are prepared to move away from that in support of Phil Craig.
Now let me tell you a little something about Phil Craig.
He isn't South African. So immediately I wonder what his motivation is for discussing anything related to South African governance.
He is English, and it was the English who a.) Created the first laws that led to Apartheid in the early parts of the 19th century; b.) Started the Groot Trek because the white settlers didn't want to be governed by a European monarchy, which is why they came to South Africa; c.) Started all the animosity between White and Black South Africans by causing the Xhosa and Zulu Wars; d.) Left thousands of Boer women and children to rot with disease and starve to death in Concentration Camps in the Second Anglo-Boer War and they still over 100 years later deny they ever did anything wrong; e.) Through a politically connected PR Firm in London, sought to assist Jacob Zuma with spin doctoring, thus creating the Radical Economic Transformation cabal, which seeks to murder all white people in this country, and led indirectly to the July 2021 Riots where more than 300 South Africans were killed, billions of Rands lost in damages and theft, countless businesses closed and lost, and countless more people left unemployed.
You trust Phil Craig over the DA?
Well then maybe we do need god's help, sooner rather than later.....
Because I will trust Jacob Zuma before I trust an English person. I will vote ANC before I let an English person tell South Africa how to govern itself, and I will subjugate my children to the Mugabe wannabes in the EFF before I allow Phil Craig and his bunch of hypocritical, dishonest Lords and Ladies of the British Empire any where near a ballot paper in this country.
Indeed, may god help us all if you're too ignorant to know what English people have done to this country and her people.
@@alanmexico01 South Africa itself its an independent state that caters a multiracial nation, Western Cape its a part of South Africa. Apartheid government tried that to separate South Africans it never lasted, so that Racial Narrative will never succeed. South Africa consists of 9 provinces and Western Cape is one of them kant en Klaar.
Thankyou Referendum Party, Mr Phil Craig you are a Rock I support your cause 200%
I will vote for you
Why not 300% 😄😄😄.
Racist.
@@deathdealer5907 Unfortunately that is a dream that won't come true. Unless you build you Cape Town somewhere in Europe not in South Africa
I've watched it all my life. People from Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, etc., moved down to Rhodesia, then everyone left there when it became Zimbabwe, came south and now it's down to the Cape. Surely at some stage there has to be a realisation that you either leave Africa or learn to live with the Africans and expect bad government, taking care of your own needs as you see fit. Population growth alone surely tells you that eventually the Cape will also be swamped and all this will be for nothing.
The fact that U confirm & use the words that WE ALL must expect bad government, is shocking & tells me all i & majority of South Africans/ Africans need to know about Yr Intellect & way of thinking,
The ONLY reason that Cape Independence/ Cape Exit has been presented as a possible option is because, South Africa is governed by a Party called the ANC, they we’re handed a Kingdom of South Africa on a Silver Platter, they have driven this beautiful thriving country into the ground & its Citizens are suffering for it,
So yes if it did come to it, i myself may think of possibly relocating to the Cape, if change does not come after this years elections, because as a business owner who used to own 3 businesses, i employed 347 staff, during covid & now the continuing loadshedding i have had to close 2 of those businesses, regrettable, i tried everything to Save those 2 businesses, i even Sold my house that my family lived in, to carry the Wages for another 4 months in hope we can trade out of the situation, but sadly with loadshedding, it has destroyed our economy, i regrettably let go of 310 staff members, people who i called family, because most of them worked & help me build those 2 businesses for over 14years, now I’m trying to save my last business,
Yr thought process is shocking, All the Cape Independence/ Cape Exit wants is for the Cape to be able to Govern themselves & not answer to a Ruling Government in Pta, who does not care about their Citizens,
U should actually rethink yr message u posted & then delete it, because if we do not have a New Government later this year, I’m afraid we are heading the Route of Zimbabwe & that is a Fact, this has absolutely nothing to do with the “West”, if that’s how U think, then U clearly are a Racist yrself, we do NOT need people like U,
I don’t agree - independence is the answer for the Cape but it has to be achieved legally.
Cape Independence is impossible now due to demographic changes. Blacks will be majority by 2029. Coloureds were over 70% in 1994, and NOW down to 42% and the black population is 39% in 2022 as per the last western cape census in 2022.
@@Truthseeker-iz3djif they are registered to vote in WC. they belong here, irrelevant of color
Hazel this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with "living with Africans". As a hard working tax payer, if you are willing to settle for less then ok- but We want a place where good governance is the New Normal. This Independance includes blacks, coloureds, whites and *everybody* who wants a better future. I lived abroad for 9 years and am back to work for a better future.
After the DA supporters vote for the DA they will realise their vote has been for the ANC as the DA go into coalition with the ANC. Then the necessity of Cape Independence will become relevant.
Due to demographic changes, it's impossible for Cape Independence now. Arguably 2009 was the last chance but maybe 2014 it would of been possible.
I would argue KZN independence is more likely but slim chance of it taking place.
@@joedonner9476DA will lose votes in WC
@@Truthseeker-iz3dj Partly agree. Demographics are still good if you can co-opt a credible Coloured leader as the face of the campaign. Agree KZN is the route to Cape Independence as they would imply power and violence which will be met with appeasement from the S.A. government.
DA voters now have the opportunity to add more weight to their vote.
A vote for the RP is still a vote for a DA led Western Cape government with one added benefit being that the voters will now get the opportunity to hold a referendum.
@@Truthseeker-iz3djAs long as the Western Cape people don't vote ANC and EFF, your argument is completely false or you are missing the point of Western Cape independence. It's not about Demographics necessarily.. it's about Western culture and capitalist outlook. Besides, Afrikaans is only prevalent in the Western Cape province, no matter "demographics'.
GIVING PLATFORM TO CLOWNS.🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Uk is busy fighting ppl taking over their country with their religion and ideas but forgot about this guy.
This man its not even South African
Never going to happen.
Epic ☀️🌴. We need to be reminded what’s at stake. Thank you Mr Craig 🙏🏻
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Philip Craig and all Pink racists must go back to Europe and have their independence there, not in South Africa. Cape is a part of South Africa and that dream will only happen in Holand not in Azania.
He's South frican. The concept of South Africa was made by whites like him.
Finally a man that speaks the TRUTH
This will feel sad honestly and I'll still vote for it
Definitely will get my vote .
Honour your promise DA and give the people their referendum.
I think the only way The Cape would ever be granted it’s Freedom of Self Governance, is with the support from the native Kweh Kweh populations, Africa would allow the birth of another nation, but it must be in African hands, therefore it is only the Kweh Kweh that have the right to decide the future of their ancestral lands💯 Phill Craig must find a way to build a relationship with them💯🙏❤️❤️❤️
if you live well, you do well, dream well and there can be no stop to thinking of a possible castle in the sky. Others are lightways away, let alone on dreaming but on even surviving to make it to another day.
Anglos always want the best of everything. Instead of taking it brutally as they did all over the world in the past, they are trying other strategies. Read what Dr. Aruna Khalilani says about this inclination. Tolerance for Orania opened the door for this madness.
If he was demanding all that in another african country , we would have already bought him a one way ticket to england.
Wow, suddenly Cape Independence looks like a possibility and an alternative solution for the Western Cape and it's place and space in a future South Africa.
If the idea of Cape Independence is a genuine concept for the goodwill of all the people of the Western Cape regardless of race colour or creed and not a desperate attempt to preserve white privilege a' referendum solution' makes sense.
A DA/IDM led multi party coalition of all left wing liberal party's could make this a workable solution.
I'm in.
@@LlewellynWebb Agaaa shame, that is just a day dreaming.
A foreigner calling for division in a country where he has a privilege citizenship...Dream on sir! You might pull that off in Britain.
@@lindamatolengwe1637 😂😂😂😂😂 let him keep on dreaming
I'm a Black African and think of him as a South African!
If Phil has all these brilliant ideas why didn’t he make them work back home? Can people stop following blindly. He has no proof of concept and is causing needless division and pain.
Have supported since CapeXit days. It is “An idea whose time has come” ..calling it a Referendum Party for this election is I feel, a mistake. Cape Independence Party is the honest visionary name. I will vote for them regardless of name. Common sense. If the people lead, eventually the leaders will follow .. and SA will be the geographic 🌈 country it was meant to be. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ to Phil Craig.
The last Referendum was concerning ending apartheid.
So 30 years Later we deserve a Referendum as according to elections western Cape people don't vote in ANC to suffer Reverse Apardheid
I suggest you read up on the Scottish referendum. It was only allowed to happen because London agreed. They would have had to honour some commitments based on the outcome . Also, read up on the Catalan referendum from Spain. That one was deemed unconstitutional because Madrid did not give the go-ahead . So, the same applies here. You cannot hold the referendum in isolation and then expect Pretoria to honour it. WC would have to seek permission from Pretoria because the outcomes have consequences beyond WC.
@@s.s.nxumalo Pretoria is not the Constitution. The people of the Western Cape will have independence whether Pretoria likes it or not.
@DP-ho9if The point here in the examples I listed is that the seat of power in that country has a say even if a referendum is held. The constitution does not operate in a vacuum. (Executive, legislature & judiciary). If regions of any country could just have a referendum and leave, then Scotland and Catalan would be independent countries. The DA actually knows this, that is why they haven't called the referendum even though they hold the majority in WC and the constitution allows. If you research any country where secession was successful, the seat of power allowed it to happen. For example, the Soviet Union would not have broken up if Russia didn't allow it.
@DP-ho9if you are a foreigner in this land you should shut tf up
This man is crazy and he must be deported.
The only way to save the Western Cape is by voting for a non racist party. Vote for a referendum. Vote Referendum Party. 😊
It will be very interesting to see how the Majority will behave on this election. I forsee DA shrinking...Majority in the Cape dont be fooled...WC would still be divided and Africans will surely suffer more spiritualy and mentally.
Go for it but I understand the DA’s position. Would be suicidal on the national stage for them to support this.
I think the DA will be watching support from places like Umngeni and surrounding areas where Pappas has been an absolute superstar for the people, if the DA doesn't win from the Umngeni area they may aswell give up national ambitions at that point.
The IEC electorial map does break the voter counts per metropolitan area even though it's not the municipal elections in case someone here asks.
DA losing popularity in WC.
Alan Winde is not in National Government, yet is the most vicious in denying the Western Cape people the right to decide.
The MOST important point is at 14:36 on the DA's zero progress towards devolution in the Cape. The chances of Federalism is equally slim. But, the very idea of a referendum is extremely hated by black pan-Africans.
Pan Africanists or African Nationalists, are a minority in the Western Cape. The people of the Western Cape have always voted towards a Western and more capitalist culture.
Quite the contrary, the DA is the biggest hurdle not black pan-Africans, those ones can hate as much as they want, they're negligible on this matter.
saving the western cape from the natives🙃
I notice that he has a British accent. What he seems to miss out on in his entire speech is legality. I have sympathy for the Cape wishing for independence but it would simply be against South African and international law. Bits of countries simply cannot decide to be independent. The central government will declare it illegal and put a stop to it. It's as simple as that. That is why the idea, including the DA, is understandably never taken seriously.
Free the Cape !!
You could go to Europe for your dream
I have read the above messages, and noticed with much interest the talk about division in our country(thanks to the ranting of politicians). I have lived half my life under the National party and the other half under the ANC, none of which i support. Working for SAA i saw the demise of one of the top 5 airlines in the world and thousands of jobs being lost post 1994. Moving abroad to work for another airline, after which i returned and happily paid my taxes hoping to support the government in its quest to improve the lot of its citizens. Instead i found politicians causing divisions amongst the races for their own political gains.
Now along comes an Englishman who has a heart for this land and doesn't stand around the braai complaining about how bad everything is but instead gets up and does something about it. He could just pack his bags and move his family abroad. Shame on you citizens who mock what he's trying to do. He's simply setting up a system whereby we can express our democratic right to hold a Referendum. Lets Stop with all the racial stuff. I was beaten up by 3 Indian teens when i was 7 years old, do i dislike Indians- No. My Mom and Dads best friends were Indian. I carry a scar of a stone thrown at me by black guys in the 1975 riots. Di i dislike black people- No. All we want is a better future for ourselves HERE, Not abroad. We have a right to this.
Think obout this the next time you want to slate those of us who are doing something for a better future.
This moofaka is crazy. First colonize now u wanna separate western cape
Can’t really argue with the logic , had never previously taken this seriously. He makes so much sense
I absolutely agree; this is not a choice but rather a necessity. I will vote for independence.
Have circulated to my contacts! Please supply names of other small countries that have achieved independence!
I live in the Western Cape. I am coloured. Some of the ideas you mentioned were good. But I fear that if the Western Cape becomes a state, every white racist will come, unfettered capitalism will worsen inequality and life expectancy overall for non whites will just become worse
Why don't you coloured people vote for coloured party. I believe you guys you are the majority there
This guy is saying people from Western Cape voted when most of us don't even bother voting for such dumb debates. Only their ignorants will vote for them
Our forefathers showed us the way when they moved north. This is only the reverse, and we must use our votes to ensure our independence.
Pro western and pro eastern concepts make me sick...
Where's Pro Africa?
What exactly means pro Africa?
Need definition. Otherwise, it is only popcorn sloganiering 😴...
@@halinaleonowicz8038 pro Africa means exactly that. Anything that has to do in advancing African interests. We have everything we need in Africa.... Minerals and resources.
Being pro Africa means we produce what we consume, polish our own diamonds and gold... Etc....
@@WalterWhite-bc8ck . No, nobody have all resources, and due to this there is exchange and trades all over the world, peoples, busineses etc: in knowledge, extraction of minerals, manufacturing...long list.
Some are better policies and laws, some have coruption. It is as it is...🤔
Do not underestimate complexity of the world today...
That went out the window when the revolutionaries drank long and deep of the Communist Kool-Aid. Besides, the terms Eastern and Western are only loosely geographical. They should read more as "pro-freedom" vs "pro-collectivist". African cultures generally tend to lean towards collectivism for straightforward and understandable reasons but recent history has also shown that they can be described as being stuck in the middle, grasping at the benefits of two incompatible concepts and ultimately failing at both.
@@halinaleonowicz8038 by all means yes trading is good however it's when we as African children wanted to be like the West or the East... And adopt their so called values and beliefs. Aren't we capable of thinking for ourselves? Are we not human beings with our own principles and values?
There lies the issue. Pro west Pro east...🙄
I am voting Cape Independence in WC and UIM nationally
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South Africa belongs to all who stays in it, including Europeans foreigners only those with good manners, Western Cape we are going to fill it with people of all races in South Africa of all classes,we are going to turn it upside down, simply because it's a part of our beautiful land that were stolen by foreigners from our forefather.
Revert to the pre 1910 REPUBLICS...the union of SOUTH AFRICA was a tragic mistake
How will it be decided on who can be a citizen of the Westurn Cape? Born there?
Thank you Phil!
I’ve voted Cape Party twice before. Now the Referendum Party pops up trying to split votes when they should have thrown their weight behind Cape Party. Why are they not working together? So I’m not sure I should vote for either one of them. The FF+ with their national footprint and coalition government partner also openly support cape independence.
Cape Party is thus far not on the Ballots for this election please vote Referendum Party
They hàve tried to work together Ruan but the CIP rejected it unfortunately. But we as people should stand together and vote for one common goal. It`s our (all races in this province) future, we must make it work
Dude you do realise the RP is just a collaboration of the CIP, CP and CIAG 😂😂😂 they just melted their banners under one flag for the ballots
Cape Party did not make it to be on ballots.
I'd rather go East than West mate!
It's not about left and right as always. It's about up and down. If wealth is not distributed evenly enough, those at the bottom radicalise to the point of revolution. Do you think an independent Western Cape will have any less of a problem in that regard? Unless it's a police state??
Economic growth and job creation goes hand in hand.
The new WC will utilize all taxes generated for it's own benefit whereas they currently give 70% to the rest of SA.
Those taxes van create hùge job opportunities and progress which in turn will attract foreign investment. Figures of 10% growth in GDP p.a. is achievable whereas SA's currently stands at 0.8%
Inflation will drop to 1%
Interest rates will drop to basically zero.
The Exchange Rate will probably increase to ZAR1.50 to the GBP.
Unemployment will drop to 5% within 10 years.
Homelessness will decrease.
Social welfare grants will increase for those in need and the elderly.
Education standards will vastly increase.
Public Health Services will radically improve
Public Transport will become 1st world standard.
Corporate taxes will reduce
Personal income tax will reduce.
Trade will explode.
Job opportunities will increase tremendously.
Crime will reduce dramatically.
Prisons will largely stand empty.
The only thing that will be negatively affected is the amounts corrupt officials and office bearers can steal because of better governance.
I can go on and on and on, and no, I'm not delusional.
Prove me wrong by voting for the RP and show me in 10 years where I missed the mark.
Yes it will have 1000 times less problems because it will have voters who understand that having decent paying jobs is more important than anything. Voters who don't think like you that you can split a cake for 100 people and still have the whole cake. Voters who realise you need to GROW the cake and make more cakes, and that splitting and fighting over one cake is going to chase away the bakers together with their ovens and flour!!!
Phil Craig deserves to be brought to trial for creating a split in South Africa. Phil, we are in Africa. If you desire to engage in that craziness, then go ahead and do it in Europe, your place of origin
How do you immigrant to a predominantly black country then try to annex the country ? That is so Arrogant
The rest of South Africa - ANC and EFF does not want to lose the Western Cape, out of national ego pride and because it well knows, that an independent Western Cape would prosper well beyond the rest of South Africa and would then lead to migrants from South Africa trying to migrate into the Westurn Cape.
Wa gafa wena
They got Europe and America to go to, they are not yet full. Again, their people are there.
Hi, what draws an Englishman Phil towards being involved in Cape politics?
I dislike the ANCs support for Russia. They should be supporting the Ukraine, the country that has been invaded!
Phil please tell us how it worked out for them (uk) they are crying now
How will the borders be controlled?
Was it not Helen who asked, what you gonna do with all the refugees?
The Western Cape people will decide.
Bra I’d let them Squat in my back yard if it meant getting the Freedom of Self Governance away from South Africa’s toxic politics😂😂😂🤷🏾♂️
Scary!!!!
People tend to fear new things, especially if they do not understand it. Like when you were a child a feared the darkness, its only natural to fear new concepts❤
When a person gets old they they become very emotional and frank with their words. Who over call the shots on the DA, is such a person. Very old and cannot play a nice guy or disguise thier true intents on racial devision.
Here's an idea...a lot of foreigners love the Western Cape due to its beauty and low prices relative to their currencies. How about a property tax in the Western Cape that evens that out even by 20% and then pumps those funds into helping the people in need (mostly black and colored) in the province
And then the foreigners will choose to go to Brazil because that's cheaper and you will have more unemployment and poverty than ever before. You see this culture of discriminating against or milking people via discrimination, is exactly why we are a poor country and why we need to get away from the voters in the Provinces who think and vote like you and don't understand economics.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Property tax is essentially rent paid for your own land. A free market and economic opportunity is a far better solution than to yet another government policy that will inevitably be inefficient and wasteful. Let people decide what is best to spend their money on.
100% - Well done Phil!!
Reality is reality!!!
You cannot bring UK ideologies to South Africa. South Africa is not a nation of people who are unalive. We are very much alive, imperfect in our diversity, but we love it. I can feel it deep inside that this will never happen. We have a vision on how we want to live and you should respect that. I would never go to the UK and disrespect or disregard its people in the manner that you seek to undermine us Phil.
For western cape to be independent, the president has to declare a national referendum to fellow South Africans, unfortunately majority of South Africans will never vote for this nonsense to exist....
What this guy never does is talk about the practical steps.
There will only be one political party.
How do they create passports, id cards, police services, funding for hospitals, schools.
How do they create a currency. Everything currently owned by the SA government will be withdrawn.
What about people who have homes in other parts of the country.
What about laws.
Whenever i asked these kinds of questions they block me.
Read the Road To Independence extensive document that answers these questions on the CapeXit NPO website. After independence granted it wouldn’t be 1 party - they’re would be a transition period and then constitution and government would be decided by voting. The suggested route is a Canton system like Switzerland has.
Like Ian smith created UDI …
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And who will pay for it?
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The divorce process between the UK and the EU lasted years.
And they consist of wealthy countries with structures created over centuries. And the UK was already an independent country.
The Cape would need to create new structures while handling the divorce.
Do you know how documents it takes to plan a new building in the city.
Unfortunately some detailed documents for creating a new country are not enough.
And what will it looks like when playing rugby? In western cape outfits 😂 with a WP flag😂 against SA flag😂
Why hasn’t this man been deported
it's understandable to want to break away- but it's stupid to waste energy and resources - it would never practically be possible or happen - why would the rest of us allow it ?- makes no sense for South Africa as a whole regardless of who the government is - stop wasting time get going with practical solutions for our real current situation right now!
Join Multi Party Charter for South Africa
I am a naturalized South African originally from Scotland. I came here in 1984. According to Mr Craig’s bio he has only been here 20 years.
I am not arguing for/against Cape independence but I as a non born SA citizen would never have the gall to advocate for an event of such proportion. This should be decided by SA born electorate and the whole country should vote on it as it effects the whole country.
Anyway, never going to happen. Catalan, Scottish independence as an example.
What currency are they going to use?
For a secession only the people in the given area vote. If the whole country votes they will never get a secession, so they might as well not bother.
@@anjieismynameNot necessarily. Take for instance if the whole of the UK was to vote on Scottish Independence, a large amount of English would vote to dump the Scots.
Not saying the same sentiment exists in the non-Cape provinces but who can tell.
My last point though is the important one; what currency will they use. The 2014 Scottish Independence referendum collapsed as the First Minister was unable to answer the question. All he said was Scotland would use the Pound to which the Central Bank, the BoE, said, no you won’t.
The Cape would also have to take with them a proportion of the South African debt. To pay for that the Cape Central Bank would have to issue bonds. Who would buy these bonds if they were issued in the ‘new’ Cape currency? How would the Cape Central Bank guarantee these bonds? This advocate for Independence does not address any of these issues.
@@presterjohn4123 Interesting point about the currency
As a trader myself, I’d happily dump my entire fortune into The Cape Shilling😂😂😂 just saying I’d support my new homeland just as much as I currently support the Western Cape, it is a very good question you are asking about the currency though
Why is this guy still in our country??
Im aaking myself the same question,
Cos he is law abiding citizen ❤
Instead of asking crap questions listen to what he is saying
@@shaunnathan5684 his not a South African Citizen his British
@NinohBrown, so what? All over the world, people are living not exactly where they were born.
Nonsense argumentation
The Red coats are coming!
He says 68% of people are for cape independence, yet he cannot put together more than 200 signatures to contest the election in the western cape and prove this idea.
You are confusing the Referendum Party for the Cape Independence Party (CIP). It is the CIP that failed to get 200 signatures. Phil is from the Referendum Party
All the same
Ha ha, you believed that TikTok video. Ai ai, how do you think the RP got onto the ballot? More than 30 000 people endorsed the Referendum Party to contest this election. There are 59 other parties who didn`t manage that.
@wouterkabouter102 you're such a dreamer lmao... there are 7.43m people in western cape and white people are only 16% of that population... so it's obvious where that tiny number is coming from. The PA was definitely needed to stop that stupid dream of yours along with those 30 000 fools that wish to doom themselves. As it stands, Britain separated from the EU and has been suffering ever since, and they had the same complaints about other parts of the EU ruining the GDP, yet you guys want a small little "Cape"? What a joke. You're already struggling with the worst crimes in SA and have neglected the people of colour and have gangs terrorizing you along with illegal foreigners coming there, if you ever win such a nonsense idea to be independent, then you will be like Haiti, cause DA has starved the majority of people of colour there for all these years.
Lol you believed that BS tiktok clip?
i asked him what status the 18 khoi san nations would enjoy in the new state wathi they'd figure that out as they go
I would also like to know the answer💯, how ever I do understand that there is a mountain of things that still needs to be ‘figured out’ like Currency for example, all these vital pillars that the Cape will have to stand on, haven’t been figured out yet😅, maby you should ensure that your concerns are met by going to help RP❤
The previous referendum hav😅e been recognise as been legit we dont need another referendum but csn comtinue to exit RSA
Thought one of your members told me the UN has no say in independence ,now you say they have.
u are an opportunist...what were the reasons for u to leave UK and come to SA...U saw an opportunity to create more division of the people of SA.IF SA is falling apart leave it to people who cares about the whole country and try to fix it.
Exactly. He needs to be deported. He is not welcome.
Exactly man
ISRAEL suffers the same threat
How big was the sample?
Good question
From one interview it was 1080 people
@@31-December Was that the only sample. Anti Referendum says less than 1000 people interviewed.
It will never happen
Qhunyiwe
Rubbish
Am a black person i support your proposal 100%
You are a black foreigner that's why
Do you know that this party doesn't want black people in Cape town lol ,🤦♂️ eish my black hayi hayi kunzima so say you want to be chased out Cape town
Apartheid Mindset.That instead of fixing the country together we give opportunity to racists to come with secessionist ideas.Lets work together and get the country working.Instead of wishing for apartheid.
The corrupt ANC is in control and they want to keep it that way. Everything they touch turns to sh*t. Good luck with the NHI !
Good idea but impossible under the thieving ANC/EFF/MK. You cannot fix them!
The problem is that even good governance is not rewarded. People have flooded the western cape for jobs and better services and polls suggest EFF will gain 10% more vote in the province compared to 5 years ago. Even the ANC is gaining a few % more.
How are you supposed to win?
According to eNCA poll DA will lose about 8% of the vote from 55% to 47%
What exactly does "let's work together" mean? Is this not what South Africans have generally been doing for the past 30 years already? If so, then why is everything falling apart?
There's absolutely no racism in an Independent Western Cape. Every man and woman of all races can vote freely. In fact, contrary to racist South Africa, the people of the Western Cape want there to be no racist labels. You will not be defined by your skin colour. All people will just be human beings and not the label of the colour of their skins. Poor people will be uplifted not because of skin colour but because they need help to get jobs, education and become 1st World citizens. All people will be equal regardless of colour. The only ones who will be suffering are the criminals who won't be able to get rich off the backs and sufferings of honest citizens.
I will still be voting DA on all three ballots come 29 May. Just as the DA saved the Western Cape, the DA will save South Africa! 🇿🇦
At least it`s better than voting for the ANC or EFF, so good on you Donald. But convincing the masses to step over to the right side in the rest of SA is far more challanging than getting the Western Cape saved.
Never. Going. To. Happen.
Within 5 years
Not up to you sadly. Up to the people living in the western cape.
Vote out the ANC Government nationally and Cape Independence won’t be necessary.
The ANC will be replaced by another ANC. The majority of South African voters don't want a Western economy or Western principles. You are dreaming something that can never happen. But what can happen is we can vote out the ANC as we have been trying to do for 30 years in which time the Government we never voted for keeps being forced on us. Enough is enough. Its time we vote in a referendum for our independence.
don't look at what Craig says, ask who funds him.
He is funded by us the citizens, ordinary people wanting freedom, paying R100 here and R500 there for our cause. Remember that a poll done showed that 68% of the Western Cape people want a referendum, and many of us will pay a few R100 for one more step towards our Freedom.