It's still a shocking thing for me about how we went from modular phones that were easily repairable TO compact low repairability phones TO repairability as a feature and now also as a Right to Repair 😶
It is greed fundamentally but I guess it led to slimmer and more stylish devices quicker - than if they had to go for style and also factor in user repairability as well. Instead to get to the stylish designs quickly they just sacraficed repairability.
This is everything Apple is against and is lobbying against. Hopefully consumers vote with their wallets and this becomes a standard (like it once was).
At half the price and just 40 quid for a new battery apple / samsung better change tactics and QUICKLY because if they blink it’ll be too late to recover
I don't think so, most people don't care about reparability or where the phones material was sourced from, they'll just keep buying from Apple, Samsung and any other phone manufacturer.
I absolutely love the combination of Right to Repair, EU regulation tightening, and companies like FairPhone and Framework making tech repairable and modular.
What most people are overlooking when it comes to the battery - you can easily carry around 2 additional batteries (that you charged with an external battery charger) in your pocket and change it on the go, it takes less space and is far more convienient than carrying a powerbank and having to use a phone with the power bank plugged in
Back when batteries were removable like on my S4 I used to do this all the time, I'd keep an extra battery in my pocket and just swap it out when the other died, could easily last at least two days without touching a charger
Why? Fairfone isnt what It comes to my mind for a good fone. I would by a SHIFT in a heartbeat. Much better concept for the newest fone thats get out end of this year. Why do you want a fone that is not waterproof?
The pricing does not make sense. It is a 700 euro fone. If they had to ship it to us, that's maybe 800 USD. Most people with 800usd to spare will look at that and say why not just get a Samsung or iPhone flagship. Cost a little bit more but would rather get one of those premium brand instead of this no name. Those that want to have easily repairable phone will look at that and say I would just get a 250 buck phone and call it a day. If they can priced it at 500 USD, the we are talking. Oh, and headphone jack needs to come back. One chance to see it success is selling them to organization that issues phones to individuals. Any broken phone can be repaired in house instead of purchasing another phone?
@@jintsuubest9331 Different people, different markets. There's people out there spending a lot extra on "green" products or brand names. Others care about ultimate budget devices and that's fine. What's wrong with spending a little extra to buy something that uses ethically sourced materials and pays workers right? I do agree on the headphone jack tho, the market this thing caters too overlaps a lot with people that care about it
Do note the advantage of the replaceable battery You can always have a charged spare on your person and if you run down, just pop the charged one into the phone and be back up and running in 20 SECONDS instead of 30 minutes
Yes, completely destroy my battery in 6 months I must. Buy a new phone when the next special edition comes out, the corporations command me@@DragonJusticia
Fairphone shows, that even today it IS possible to build repairable phones - so it is really that their competitors are not willing to build repairable phones at all... I would be already happy with an easy to change battery. Think about what Apple or Samsung could achieve with their billon dollar budgets and their engineering power, when a benefit cooperation like FairPhone can do that.
@@sys-administrator The Galaxy S5 was IP 67 rated and was pretty much as easily disassembled as this. Gaskets and screws work just as well as glue(s).
Update: 2 months ago, watching this video inspired me to buy the same exact phone! I have it on Mint Mobile unlimited while using it for UA-cam Music and Sirius XM. The 5G connection makes this phone a great performer, but it's built-in speakers, cameras and mics still have certain performances to be desired.
@@CubNole The coverage on Mint Mobile on the Fairphone 5 is great, but only for streaming purposes such as UA-cam, UA-cam Music, Sirius XM Etc., however phone call quality is not good at all. When talking to someone you have to remain as stationary as possible in order to have a successful phone call.
I've had a fairphone 4 since release and not had any problems apart from the usb port struggles to grip the plug now. I bought the replacement part a few days ago and even the fairphone shop seems more ethical than usual; I gave them a delivery address and card details and that was it. You don't realise how annoying online shopping normally is until you use a website that doesn't push you towards setting up an account, upselling or joining a mailing list.
Your port was probably just clogged up with accumulated lint from your pockets. I've had this happen many times on my phone. A simple scraping with a needle should clean it out. USB-C connectors shouldn't wear out through the lifecycle of a phone
@@broklonddon't use a needle. It's safe sometimes but there's a chance to short out contacts even if the phone is off. Get a free toothpick from a restaurant and shave it finer. The wood is not conductive and the finer point gets more gunk out. Use canned air too.
Reminds me of when it was standard just a few years ago for phones to have removable batteries and MicroSD slots until everyone started copying Apple, we went backwards in so many ways with phone technology. Hope Fairphone propels us forwards again, I also hope the UK passes even more and stricter laws about this sort of thing and that replicable batteries and USB-C ports was just the beginning.
@@TechXydrayes, but in most cases it is very long process and you need specific tools and knowledge for that. In older phones, just like with that, it is 10 seconds.
i have the Fairphone 3 and love it !!! The removable battery, sd card to expand storage, and DUAL sim slots are just the beginning of the reasons to love these phones
To those who dont remember, this is how most smartphones used to be built until Apple decided to build in obsolescence to all there iphones. Samsung quickly followed and the rest is history. Sometimes the old ways are recognised as being the best.
@@justinholding02 support is not available in the US either, so parts would need to be shipped from Europe adding shipping costs. I don't think it's worth it unless they release it in the US
If the Fairphone 5 fully came into the US market, it would be my next smartphone purchase as my first android. Been sick of all the companies making it utterly impossible to either get stuff fixed for fair pricing or even by myself.
but you cant gawk at it and overlook its flaws. No water resistance, high price tag ($700+), small battery (~4000mah). You could basically just buy a Samsung Galaxy flagship from 1-2 years ago refurbished for $500 and replace it sooner to make up for the difference of the Fairphone. In fact the Fairphone seems like its trying to be a climate change oriented product more than a "right to repair" product because of the hidden messaging and political nature. Its confusing to be honest. Are they selling a phone or a movement? The replacement parts are outrageously expensive too. $30 for a usbc port? You can buy those in BULK for $30 a box.
For university I researched fair phone. They are a company that is still expanding and doesn’t even have resellers in every EU country. It’s the largest in Germany & Austria and is based in Amsterdam.
I’m truly impressed. People, just remember: these initiatives are only viable if enough phones are sold. This has just become an option for my next personal phone (I just hope it is available in the US when the time comes)
I doubt so because modular systems have to be adopted by everyone, not by one company. Otherwise you just get hundred of different easy to repair phones but each have their own system.
@@naturalmystic1262 Fairphone will die without apple doing anything. No one is buying this phone. They can’t even come close to competing with Apple who has a 60% market share in North America and a 30% Market share world wide. Even samsung is dwarfed by Apple
@@xCDF-pt8kjidk they seem to be holding their own and people are excited about the product. apple doesn't make cheap phones either but that doesn't seem to harm their business very much
@@baconwizard That's a little cynical.. :D I mean, if their phones become a global sensation, then they'll probably have to start trimming costs a little - but I suspect they'll look at the rise and fall of companies like OnePlus and try to stay within their vision. In the EU, they HAVE to provide removable batteries (soon) and USB-C charging - so even Apple will have no choice but to comply - I don't think they'll want to lose that many consumers - and when Apple 'invent' removable batteries then it'll become a global standard again. (Storage will probably never come back tho.... :| )
Why? I'm a serious headphone guy. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of having a 3,5 jack on a smartphone any longer. It makes it more expensive and produces more e-waste. It's a minority only who would use it. They would also have to implement a decent dac/amp with it, otherwise it's useless and people would either use a dongle or like most nowadays some bluetooth earbuds.
@@techmed-rainer Bluetooth earbuds are the e-waste here, not headphone jacks that can be used with headphones that last decades rather than a few short years.
Watched it on my Fairphone 5 :) , I have FP2, FP3 and now FP5...good times! Having 1TB for under 100€ is a very nice "nut-punch" against the hipster companies like Apple and Samsung.
The last step for Fairphone would be to allow some level of customization when you buy it. Beside RAM and memory, it would be great to have a few options regarding processors, cameras, and battery (with price changing based on your choice, of course). That would officially make them stand out from any other smartphone manufacturer
I think that'd be really hard to implement besides maybe selling mainboards like framework is doing for example. Upgradable ram in a smartphone is unheard of afaik, changing the processor to me doesn't seem very realistic or practical, maybe they need some kind of "okay" from Qualcomm for that too, but Idk. Being able to change the whole board in an old housing or offering screen upgrades for an old phone might be more doable (which would still be incredible). As for cameras, maybe if they made slots and modules for the cameras that could work? I think it's a really cool idea to have an upgradable phone, but I'm not sure if Fairphone's willing or even able to do such a thing properly.
@@leowolastname2250 I wasn't thinking about an upgradable phone but rather about having multiple purchase options. Like you know how when you buy a Mac on the apple store you can choose different options for RAM, CPU etc? So, for example, the Fairphone 6 could be sold with the possibility to choose between two CPU options, one that is top of the line vs one cheaper. Same with other components. An actually upgradable Fairphone would be amazing but as you said, it would be incredibly difficult and I don't think technology is there yet.
Honestly, you guys don't have to worry like I use to before about fixing parts for smartphones. Fixing a phone is not too expensive. You will mostly fix the screen, replace the battery, or fix charging port. It doesn't cost much to fix these hardware issues. Most issues are actually software related, which you can do it yourself if you search on the internet.
@@xCDF-pt8kj Moronic take. 25$ wired earbuds will sound better than 200$ airpods. There is no battery to constantly recharge, cables are just more convenient and more long-lasting. Also why does my pair of wired earbuds have media controls?
Ok the moment you pulled the USB C off just like that I was immediately sold. This is incredible... Just to think this kinda thing was always possible but intentionally avoided by large companies is just infuriating.
I know it’s so damn cool and now unlike Fairphone 4 it has enough specs to convince me the oled I wonder if the buttons can be removed though as eight years of use could see them fail and need to be replaced but the housing isn’t a part the sell only the front screen and back cover so could be an issue but I’m so happy they exist I’m tempted to sell my iPhone and switch and yes I’ve always had iPhone and just accepted there dirty tactics
Jerry, this is the sort of reviews we need from reviewers... great for humans, and humanity. Please do more "sustainable" stories, so brands see the benefit of that too! This phone clearly shows that durability is possible if there is a "will".
My iphone x still stands strong after 5,5 years, btw. I'm not sure if fairphone will get all the software updates in 5 years and if it's battery will still be at 81% after 1500+ cycles. Only intel based macs were unusable after 2 years. M1 will be usable for more than 5 years from what I see.
Performance may matter for some people, but I think for most of us who just use our phones for watching videos and scrolling socials, this would be a much better option
@@jacobnunya808Never managed to get a budget phone to last more than 6 months without becoming unbearably slow, even without installing useless crap on it.
I am loving this concept. Imagine their sales if they could open a shop or outlet in every city or country where the average person could just walk in or order modules according to their preferences. Better yet, if they could assemble a new phone according to their budget and preferences. For example, since I do not take pictures or videos much, I do not need super high res pricey cameras. I could swap it out for a mid range camera reducing the pricing a bit.
@@cube492atm it's not related, and it will be hard to be related one day (altough it could and I hope it will). The main reason is that you are not space limited inside a computer box which let you buy , for most components, the brand and model you want (usually). But here for the phone, you need to have specific sized and designed components
Maintaining your phone for an extended period and having the capability to enhance its camera, audio, and potentially even the motherboard is a brilliant concept.
Fairphone goes to an extreme. It would be silly to make all phone have every part user replaceable because then sacrifices would be made in design and/or price. A phone really should just be designed to last about 5 years and not have unnecessary blocks put in place to being repaired.
@@treeman1988 And that doesn't matter in the slightest. Just like Sony devices aren't "popular", yet they are the perfect fit for a special kind of owner. It's about choice, you can buy a phone for 99 bucks and not care how it's made, you can buy gimmicky phones with lights on the back, you can buy into a very nice ecosystem like Apples or you can buy something made sustainably ethically. Some people care about thickness, others buy rugged phones which are also not "popular".
I think this definition will be coming more and more to the peoples head. The old thinking is slowly dying out and i find this very satisfying. I smiled the whole video because i agreed on every thing he said to 1000% :)
It's so interesting how this is essentially what any flagship Samsung or Motorola looks like if you're familiar with the repairs, just with verrry small changes to make it more user friendly. no flex on the battery, short and sweet flex cable for charging port, little things like that... im very comfortable fixing basically any smartphone and i still want one of these for me and all my friends, just seems comfy and low maintenance. $39 euro for whats probably a 10 USD battery is a bit steep, but when you consider a repair shop would charge 100 bucks for the repair, you're still coming out on top as an end user. not a bad business model...
Ive been using my fairphone for quite some time now with /e/OS (and yes, its insanely easy to load your own OS onto it too and all the drivers they use are open source) and im insanely happy with it. Its by far the best phone Ive had so far.
Wow, this is the first time im considering buy a phone thanks to your durability test. Seeing it taken apart so easily is amazing, and just what I always wanted. Since I'm in Europe I'll see more reviews, maybe I end up getting it! :)
TBH I wanted a foldable. Samsung's overall design don't appeal to me, so I looked for Oppo Find N (not available outside CN but possible to buy and use in Europe). I really liked it but I was concerned about its overall durability. Then I saw his test and how well this phone behaved - that was a key point that made me make a decision to buy it. And after a year I don't regret it :)
I remember how back a days all the phones were made that way, so you can literally replace every part with couple of screws, but now we have what we have
I'm glad to see Fairphone 5 having about double the amount of replaceable modules in comparison to the last time I looked at one's disassembly. I didn't really like to have to replace half the phone's internals if I had any problems with a single component, but this seems to have internals split into a much more reasonable set of component assemblies.
“This is not sponsored I’m just excited” ahh yes I can hear it in your voice. As I think this guys “excitement” is the most calmed in the world haha. Thanks for all the videos and all the issues you address. The world needs more good people like you in it and it wouldn’t be the same YT without you here.
I am extremely impressed how modular and portable this phone is simultaneously. Making only Battery easily replacable would be a huge deal for Apple and Samsung. I hope they will be forced to do so
@@jeffgayzose8129 that's incorrect. Samsung had ip67 ratings on phones back when they had removable backs and replaceable batteries. It can be done, they don't want it to be done, because then you won't be forced to buy a new phone when your battery starts rapidly dying.
@@jeffgayzose8129 Why do you figure? There have been lots of water-resistant phones that had user-replaceable batteries, my point and shoot camera from 2010 had it, and if you can replace the battery you can reduce e-waste by a whole lot for a small investment. Batteries are one of the first parts with finite life to go on an otherwise healthy phone, it seems dumb that we lost the ability to replace them.
They would probably be better off using high quality batteries, along with battery care techniques, to deliver that battery longevity. I don't see why you would need to replace a battery if it did not go bad after a few years. Also using bigger batteries would help offset the loss due to battery degradation.
I hope this becomes mainstream this is the kind of device we need. I hate it when phones nowadays are kind of disposable when a certain part gets damaged. This one allows for repairability and upgrades too.
why do people in support of right to repair make false claims about the repairability of popular phones; the iPhone is modular, the problem with it is that the components are serialized, so you better send it back to apple to have it repaired, which is more expensive. but that doesn't mean an iPhone is disposable. it is not. most of the components can be individually replaced. the screen, the type c socket, and the screen are all replaceable by third-party repair shops.
I would love it if they would expand to the rest of the world, I've been keeping an eye on them to see if they have plans so do so, but alas it doesn't seem that it's going to happen
@@milinddixit6583I think they've mentioned it's the cost to expand into markets they are unfamiliar with. That being said they did finally make the fair phone 4 available in the US but only through a third party well after it launched.
@milinddixit6583 they're launching the 4 in the US, but only with a non android OS. This announcement is kinda awkward for anyone who was thinking about that before
what @@Scorialimit said. though i *think* you can reflash it to have something like lineageOS, it was weird. but irc, they did this because the maker of the OS was also a distributor, so they were able to distribute it easily. i wouldn't be surprised if they do end up releasing the Fairphone 5 in the US eventually. if not, something huge or costly in the US must be stopping them... i am a Fairphone 4 user, and it has been awesome so far. a good replacement for my OnePlus X that i used for 8 years (with LineageOS/Android 11)
Having just had this shipped from the UK, i honestly can agree. I wasn't expecting a whole lot but it has so far blown me away in some ways. The screen is brilliant, camera is sharp and it feels solid. Side note that I was also kind of impressed the phone was not wrapped in plastic but rather something like wax paper or so.
I would buy this if it was available in the US. We need more phones like this. Hearing that pixel may be getting ride of the Pixel A lineup this would be a great addition to the US market.
For what reason would they get rid of the Pixel A series? If I'm not mistaken it's been their best selling products over the past few years? Can you cite a source I'm interested
Hey Zack, awesome device!! Now instead of daily driving a foldable, you could daily drive a Fairphone with actual replacement parts on your bag so you can fix it if you drop it!
If the device will not be released in the US, it might be that you will not have proper 4G/5G signal in the US due to radio frequency differences between different parts of the world, but I am not sure about that.
@@jacobnunya808 Zack was said a few videos back that he dropped his note 10 and it broke during a business trip where he had no way of using his device. So he said a few videos back that he was thinking about daily driving a foldable phone because if something like that happens again he will likely have another usable screen on his phone. Now with this kind of repairable it's probably worth for someone worried about this situation to actually have spare parts in your bag or in your car to be able to rapair the device on the go.
I had a Samsung Galaxy Nexus back in the day that had a easily removable battery similar to the Fairphone 5. The back cover was plastic (unfortunately not transparent), and could be popped off with little effort. Inside the battery was not glued down or anything and, IIRC, I could remove it pretty much the same way as Zack did on this phone.
If it was only battery I could swap out in 10 seconds, I would be satisfied! Reminds me of my Nokia days when I could easily swap with a second battery or get a friend's spare 😂 Then being able to crucially change the charging port and screen is a welcome addition ❤ I don't see a company like Apple doing this when they're milking your wallet - I think that stand is still their most ridiculous product ever!
@@Captain_MaeveWell I hope Apple will become less greedy and anti-repair, anti-consumer in the future and finally get to remove that damn notch that they have been keeping for years.
@@Captain_Maeve I really really hope this becomes a reality. If I could own a phone and swap the battery every 2-3 years I could use that thing for soooooo much longer.
Since the days of the 1st Samsung Galaxy S, I dreamt about a modular(-upgradable) phone, I dreamt about my Galaxy S would be one. Because the S was about perfect size for me physically, but I would love to upgrade its screen to one with a bit higher resolution and brightness, just to name 1 desired upgrade from the many. This 8 years of software update for the Fairphone is crazy attractive for me, my current phone had around 3 years of updates(2 generations of Android, and the last safety update came in late 2021) I definitely will dig deeper in this phone, and it's nice that I could get one no problem (besides money) here in Europe! (It wasn't the first time I heard about this company tho)
Frist galaxy was a legend beside the flacky chrome frame it was the perfect phone before it became to old. id love to see a sliding cover for the charing port on a modern phone
I think Mureena will distribute in the US with their de-googled Android e/OS. But hey I'm in Australia, ordered my FP4 overseas in the UK by Clove Tech, no hassle, super fast shipping. There is a way if you really want. And the more they sell, the more pressure on the big names.
Because US citizens are about the last people on earth to give 3 craps about sustainability. Or They'll preach about it all day and do nothing about it
I think its the perfect replacement for an LG diehard like myself! I wish it would come here, I wouldn't be able to hand my money over fast enough! They probably think we're assholes like the rest of the world does. This sucks. Smh
I remember well the times, not too long ago,when every smartphone was built with a removable backside and exchangeable battery. For my Nokia Communicaters I even had a docking station with an extra slot to load an accu. I often carried the 2nd battery with me and exchanged it on the fly instead of panicly searching for the next outlet to re-juce my phone, like nowadays still the Apple kids do 😀
This brings joy. I loved repairing phones back in 2010-2015. When they started using strong glue, i lost interest in fixing phones. This even has a replaceable chargin port.. wonderful !
This was an instant buy for me, I'd put my order in before their launch stream had finished. My last smartphone was from 2014, so I'm doing my bit for reuse/longevity!
@juri14111996 can't get updates though. That 8 years is unmatched. Most used phones are carrier locked. If you can get a newish phone used from a carrier, that makes sense. Additionally this has an open bootloader.
@@yeezet4592 where do yo live? I got my last 2 phones from my carrier, even they have no carrier lock. I havent seen a phone with carrier lock in years, most new phones are even dual sim (one being an e sim).
@@yeezet4592 That 8 years isn't even true. If you check their website, there's an asterisk that says you only get 5 Android OS updates. That's not 8 years of updates at all.
@@turk639 yes, but it's not the same, dedicated 3.5mm jacks have built in DACs, most of the cheapo dongles don't and break often, and it's a little ridiculous that it's necessary to carry sometimes two dongles and a phone just to drive headphones/IEMs at/over 32ohms when manufacturer's could just include a 3.5mm jack in the first place. At any rate, there's no justifiable reason to not just include one in the first place.
The back panel and battery reminded me of the Galaxy S3. Glad to see that we are circling back to repairability and reduce wastage. FairPhone takes it to how we should've evolved, wish them Godspeed. As always great work Jerry 👍
I'm really glad, that they decided this time to have at least "reasonable" computing power. Now it really makes sense to consider and feels competitive at some degree. Would be great if they will have some linux support too besides Android. Note: previously I was looking many times to buy a decent phone that is not apple or samsung, but having 3gb of ram on many quirky phones was a no go! Really glad that they have this time at least 8gb of RAM.😅
I sadly heard there are some issues with the battery life because of the chip. I also wouldn't say it is a powerful chip, even for midrange, but all phones are so good that it doesn't matter that much anyway. But battery life does, that is the only thing low budget phones all get right. Hope this can be resolved with software.
@@tinminator8905 You don't buy this phone for the powerful processor. You buy it because they decided to use a rare industrial grade processor. This way they are sure it gets supported for the next 8 YEARS. That is huge.
@@arjen_k Yeah, but getting bad battery life for it is unacceptable. I literally mentioned that the performance does not matter that much. Please fully read the comment before replying.
This reminds me of my beloved LG G4. Replaceable battery and microSD card slot have always been a priority for me - it's just annoying that the vast majority of phone manufacturers have gradually done away with various features whilst increasing the price. I use an LG V30+ now, which has a microSD card slot but no replaceable battery. The built-in DAC and headphone jack are features that I didn't know would become rare after a few years. It's still going strong and I have no plans to replace it for many more years to come (hopefully).
I loved my LG G4! And my G2 before that. It's a shame they didn't quite hit the mark with the G5, and an even bigger shame that they're no longer releasing phones.
Still have my G4, I love this phone, the only thing I don't like about it is the locked bootloader, nothing can be done about it… Sadly. Updated it to Marshmallow and since then it became sluggish most of the time… How they couldn't do an optimized system for 3 gbs of ram ?
I'm still on my LG V30 too, but I recently cracked the screen and its cheaper to by a new phone 😭I'm surprising myself but the Motorola line of phones are the best on the market upgrade for me. moto g54 seems like the way if you're looking to upgrade anytime soon and its $300!
Man, that charger port removal looked so satisfying... My previous phone borked because it wouldn't charge anymore, if it only had this, I could have used it for a few more years. So happy to see this, and I sincerely hope it becomes the standard. Edit: Just realized, it doesn't seem to have a 3.5mm plug. If they just added that, I think it would be perfect (especially because it is a bit pricey).
not so fun fact, they pulled an apple, took out the headphone jack starting with the fp4 and started selling wireless buds instead, their reasoning was less parts to break so their warranty can be better, the buds they sell now aren't any more repairable than airpods but they do sell individual cases and buds. personally that move leaves a very sour taste in my mouth but they've done almost everything else right on the phone, with how modular the phone is, i wonder if anyone's working on bringing back the jack like how that one guys was able to put a jack in the iphone 7? i'd bet it'd be difficult but still orders of magnitude easier on this phone than any other phone...
The main issues i encounter with any phone i purchase is that over time the battery life degrades (obviously), the charging port starts misbehaving and very rarely the screen has issues. With this phone all that could be fixed without having to buy a new one 👌🏼
Just wanted to throw my voice in for bringing this to the US. I've been trying to cleanup and do whatever small part I can, and this would be a nice addition. As an aside... every time I watch him doing the scratch test, I wonder if he's wearing a mask or the area is insanely well ventilated so he isn't huffing aluminum dust every time he does one of these. :D
You can cut aluminum sheets with a grinder without any ventilation for a few hours a week with no problem, the amount of dust in these scratch test are basically zero.
@jerry imho you should start a scoring system with a table, to show all the results at the end of each teardown. You are really an inspiration and a reliable ( not biased ) source. Tks
My only issue with it is why they removed the headphone jack. Feel like that's a big miss from a company touting repairability and caring for the environment in mind
@@jaypaans3471bet you are not using your 6 months old tws. You just didnt got thenpoint of fairphone's logic. Wireless earphones are having more e-waste than phones itself. Also they sounds bad. Btw i watched few VHS tapes of my parent's wedding shoot.
I loved the idea the previous fairphones, but I could never justify the price (within my budget), usually I end up getting a used previous year's flagship for less than half the price instead
I bought a brand new s21 plus 256 for half of what it retailed for when new. there was very little difference between the s21 and s22 for 100-150 dollars more. third generation flagships seem to be the sweet spot of price to features
well, you not only pay the phone in the case of FP, you also pay the humans who work for you holding the device in your hand. If this is not a good reason to pay more, I don't know. We all want a fair pay, why we want to deny it for people working for us in mines or factories?
@@Signofevil_Smile4theCam I hear you and I agree completely. All companies should pay their staff and dependents fairly, it's a crying shame that they do not. Sadly, many consumers also don't get paid fairly and don't have £600+ to spend on a phone :( I've never been able to afford a brand new phone, always second hand, but if I ever do find myself in a position where I could, I'd choose FP 👍
@@Epsilon9-tt7oo The adapters break pretty much instantly and the sound is crap with them. I tried for 4 months. Worst phone experience ever. If you love music, stay away from this garbage phone. And never recommend adapters. They are seriously so shitty.
My Samsung Galaxy S5 4G LTE had a plastic snap on/off back and easily removable/replaceable battery. It is one of the most common sizes of battery and readily available online for less than $10. I was happy to keep using it until Verizon did something to their towers and system that caused the phone to randomly drop the signal so I couldn't make or receive calls.
@@talos86 Absolutely. And, for being a single camera phone, it took excellent pictures in a variety of situations and the video motion tracking focus was better than my expensive DSLR camera.
@@fayereaganlover And, a simple plastic cover that would be $10 to $15 (USD) on eBay would be 3 times that much at the Verizon store. But, I bought my phone used on eBay and the same for accessories and replacement batteries. The battery used by that phone was and still is among the more popular batteries, thus lots of companies made compatible batteries for that phone. I don't doubt that the name brand cell stores in Europe charged much higher prices.
This should be a standard for every phone manufacturers on earth.
If only they REALLY care about the consumers... yes, it's possible
@@sihamhamda47 no water resistance...
Then prepare yourself to pay twice the price. Modular phones aint cheap and this one is no exception.
@@Fairphone great device, why no 3.5mn audio jack?
Then how they are gonna save the earth😅
It's still a shocking thing for me about how we went from modular phones that were easily repairable TO compact low repairability phones TO repairability as a feature and now also as a Right to Repair 😶
Greed is why.
Apple ruined everything
@@googlewolly and water resistance...
Unfettered capitalism at its finest
It is greed fundamentally but I guess it led to slimmer and more stylish devices quicker - than if they had to go for style and also factor in user repairability as well. Instead to get to the stylish designs quickly they just sacraficed repairability.
This is everything Apple is against and is lobbying against. Hopefully consumers vote with their wallets and this becomes a standard (like it once was).
At half the price and just 40 quid for a new battery apple / samsung better change tactics and QUICKLY because if they blink it’ll be too late to recover
I don't think so, most people don't care about reparability or where the phones material was sourced from, they'll just keep buying from Apple, Samsung and any other phone manufacturer.
@@Razor-gx2dqyeah... Then they just throw away the product just because 1/10 of the device is dead...
@@zuzuanddee prive is way to high for a phone with 3 year old specs.
@@Razor-gx2dq and some people care about performance. the Fairphone 5 is basicaly 3 years old when you boy it now.
Fairphone and Frameworks laptop are really going to be my main devices in near future.
I absolutely love the combination of Right to Repair, EU regulation tightening, and companies like FairPhone and Framework making tech repairable and modular.
It must be the gold standard
Unfortunately they have a loophole. Watertight devices don't need user replaceable batteries.
absolutely agree! Fairphone, Framework and Shiftphone and Nothingphone making this now and do not have huge problems in the future.
@@naja08gll banning serial code software locked batteries is a huge step.
It's repairable, but it's missing important components like 3.5mm jack, an USB charger and an USB cable.
What most people are overlooking when it comes to the battery - you can easily carry around 2 additional batteries (that you charged with an external battery charger) in your pocket and change it on the go, it takes less space and is far more convienient than carrying a powerbank and having to use a phone with the power bank plugged in
Not to mention using a phone with the power bank plugged in destroys both batteries way faster
I used to do that with all my phones back in the day. I had 2 extra batteries.
Back when batteries were removable like on my S4 I used to do this all the time, I'd keep an extra battery in my pocket and just swap it out when the other died, could easily last at least two days without touching a charger
Literally should be a top comment
However keeping all spare batteries charged is a bit tedious
Fairphone needs to expand it's reach to markets like US and Asia; cause it's so damn good to be true!
I would switch from iOS with a Fairphone (that has Android; I’m aware of the /e/OS version).
They just this past summer released their Fairphone 4, with a Google free OS, in the US. So hopefully they will branch out even more over there!
Why? Fairfone isnt what It comes to my mind for a good fone. I would by a SHIFT in a heartbeat. Much better concept for the newest fone thats get out end of this year.
Why do you want a fone that is not waterproof?
The pricing does not make sense.
It is a 700 euro fone. If they had to ship it to us, that's maybe 800 USD.
Most people with 800usd to spare will look at that and say why not just get a Samsung or iPhone flagship. Cost a little bit more but would rather get one of those premium brand instead of this no name.
Those that want to have easily repairable phone will look at that and say I would just get a 250 buck phone and call it a day.
If they can priced it at 500 USD, the we are talking. Oh, and headphone jack needs to come back.
One chance to see it success is selling them to organization that issues phones to individuals. Any broken phone can be repaired in house instead of purchasing another phone?
@@jintsuubest9331 Different people, different markets. There's people out there spending a lot extra on "green" products or brand names. Others care about ultimate budget devices and that's fine. What's wrong with spending a little extra to buy something that uses ethically sourced materials and pays workers right? I do agree on the headphone jack tho, the market this thing caters too overlaps a lot with people that care about it
This is the first video I've seen from you and my heart stopped at 05:40 when you started to scratch the body. Shocked goosepumps.^^
That's how I felt for my first too lol
That's how phones should be
Just needs a 3.5mm jack
That’s how they used to be
@@sys-administratortf is ip68 waterproofing? You mean water resistantace?
Holy, his comment exploded it was like 36 likes 💀
@@sys-administratornope, low priority
That's how the phones were in 2015. Hello LG G4. 😍
Do note the advantage of the replaceable battery
You can always have a charged spare on your person and if you run down, just pop the charged one into the phone and be back up and running in 20 SECONDS instead of 30 minutes
But but now we have 120W chargers that charge up the phone in 12 minutes!!!
(And heat the shit of it 😂)
@@DragonJusticiaor just get a Pixel and wait 1.5 hours for it to charge.
Yes, completely destroy my battery in 6 months I must. Buy a new phone when the next special edition comes out, the corporations command me@@DragonJusticia
I do exactly that with my fairphone
@@DragonJusticiaYou have to bring a 120W charger, and what if you are far from electricity
Fairphone shows, that even today it IS possible to build repairable phones - so it is really that their competitors are not willing to build repairable phones at all... I would be already happy with an easy to change battery. Think about what Apple or Samsung could achieve with their billon dollar budgets and their engineering power, when a benefit cooperation like FairPhone can do that.
@@sys-administratoryea. cost of product will drop with scale and the exploitation of labour in other countries
@@sys-administrator The Galaxy S5 was IP 67 rated and was pretty much as easily disassembled as this. Gaskets and screws work just as well as glue(s).
You see, if apple or Samsung starts making phone as repairable as fairphone's, nobody's going to buy a fairphone anymore
@@OLBastholmS5’s display was glued to the frame
@@keonxd8918 i guess FairPhone would be fine with that 😅 thats what they wanted to achieve
Update: 2 months ago, watching this video inspired me to buy the same exact phone! I have it on Mint Mobile unlimited while using it for UA-cam Music and Sirius XM. The 5G connection makes this phone a great performer, but it's built-in speakers, cameras and mics still have certain performances to be desired.
Thanku
How is the coverage on Mint?
@@CubNole The coverage on Mint Mobile on the Fairphone 5 is great, but only for streaming purposes such as UA-cam, UA-cam Music, Sirius XM Etc., however phone call quality is not good at all. When talking to someone you have to remain as stationary as possible in order to have a successful phone call.
@@semectualis it down to the service provider or is the call quality problem down to the phone hardware?
Got mine two weeks ago, it does everything I expected from it, love the 5 year warranty and the 8 years of updates.
Are you in Europe?
@@AimForTheBushes908 yes
8 years of updates, awesome!! 2023+8 years.
You'll get bored of it.
@@otikokoso1956That's consumerism.
I've had a fairphone 4 since release and not had any problems apart from the usb port struggles to grip the plug now. I bought the replacement part a few days ago and even the fairphone shop seems more ethical than usual; I gave them a delivery address and card details and that was it. You don't realise how annoying online shopping normally is until you use a website that doesn't push you towards setting up an account, upselling or joining a mailing list.
Your port was probably just clogged up with accumulated lint from your pockets. I've had this happen many times on my phone. A simple scraping with a needle should clean it out. USB-C connectors shouldn't wear out through the lifecycle of a phone
@@broklonddon't use a needle. It's safe sometimes but there's a chance to short out contacts even if the phone is off. Get a free toothpick from a restaurant and shave it finer. The wood is not conductive and the finer point gets more gunk out. Use canned air too.
@@broklond I've done all that and scratched all the way to the plastic. I think I've just weakened it by sitting on it when it's plugged in and stuff.
@@TheCuriousNoob I took the battery out and carefully used a felting needles to clean it. Avoided doing any damage but it didn't help either.
What country are you in and which carrier do you have? If that is the USA, I am going to go after one myself!
Reminds me of when it was standard just a few years ago for phones to have removable batteries and MicroSD slots until everyone started copying Apple, we went backwards in so many ways with phone technology. Hope Fairphone propels us forwards again, I also hope the UK passes even more and stricter laws about this sort of thing and that replicable batteries and USB-C ports was just the beginning.
EU not UK
We went backwards in many ways generally speaking
Batteries can still be replaced
@@TechXydrayes, but in most cases it is very long process and you need specific tools and knowledge for that. In older phones, just like with that, it is 10 seconds.
it starts with yourself
i have the Fairphone 3 and love it !!! The removable battery, sd card to expand storage, and DUAL sim slots are just the beginning of the reasons to love these phones
how does it work with recent apps nad app updates? does it still receive updated to android? is it running android 14 now?
@@TheWolvesCurse it is official supported by the lineageos. So, yes, it runs android 14. But phone itself is a pretty slow and laggy.
To those who dont remember, this is how most smartphones used to be built until Apple decided to build in obsolescence to all there iphones. Samsung quickly followed and the rest is history. Sometimes the old ways are recognised as being the best.
Boycott the rotten Apple
Planned obsolescence. It’s why I buy vintage whenever I can.
@@justinholding02I need a new phone bc this iPhone 11 i have is GARBAGE. I thought I found it but nope! Not available here.
@@WatchTashi can't you get someone in Europe to ship one to you?
@@justinholding02 support is not available in the US either, so parts would need to be shipped from Europe adding shipping costs. I don't think it's worth it unless they release it in the US
If the Fairphone 5 fully came into the US market, it would be my next smartphone purchase as my first android. Been sick of all the companies making it utterly impossible to either get stuff fixed for fair pricing or even by myself.
Murena recently brought the fairphone 4 to the us market I’d keep an eye they may release the fairphone 5 in us markets at this point probably 2024
I like this a lot. I'd consider it..
Lol, so you're using an iPhone of all things?
but you cant gawk at it and overlook its flaws. No water resistance, high price tag ($700+), small battery (~4000mah). You could basically just buy a Samsung Galaxy flagship from 1-2 years ago refurbished for $500 and replace it sooner to make up for the difference of the Fairphone. In fact the Fairphone seems like its trying to be a climate change oriented product more than a "right to repair" product because of the hidden messaging and political nature. Its confusing to be honest. Are they selling a phone or a movement? The replacement parts are outrageously expensive too. $30 for a usbc port? You can buy those in BULK for $30 a box.
2 year old samsung will have 2 years of security patches left (most samsung models) so its electronic waste after that@@nitroxylictv
For university I researched fair phone. They are a company that is still expanding and doesn’t even have resellers in every EU country. It’s the largest in Germany & Austria and is based in Amsterdam.
Yes, it's a Dutch company I believe
In the beginning period they used parts of huawei phones and stuff to make a phone but now it's an original design
6:00 uncomfort intensifies
I’m truly impressed.
People, just remember: these initiatives are only viable if enough phones are sold. This has just become an option for my next personal phone (I just hope it is available in the US when the time comes)
No headphone jack.
@@toddsmith1969 Nobody cares.
@@Bierkameel I actually kind of care; however, it’s not the deal breaker it would have been a year ago. I can live with a dongle.
@@toddsmith1969 yep, that’s a bummer, but not a dealbreaker for me, when I balance all I get Vs what it lacks.
@Bierkameel "Nobody" = only you
I want Fairphone, and by extension Framework, to succeed so much. They look to be the future of electronics going forward but they need a lot of help.
I doubt so because modular systems have to be adopted by everyone, not by one company. Otherwise you just get hundred of different easy to repair phones but each have their own system.
Apple will buy the company and shut it down for good.. apple ways 😂
@@naturalmystic1262 Fairphone will die without apple doing anything. No one is buying this phone. They can’t even come close to competing with Apple who has a 60% market share in North America and a 30% Market share world wide. Even samsung is dwarfed by Apple
@@naturalmystic1262what if fairphone denies buyout?
@@xCDF-pt8kjidk they seem to be holding their own and people are excited about the product. apple doesn't make cheap phones either but that doesn't seem to harm their business very much
I do wish it had a 3.5 mm jack and IR blaster.
Still better than many other phones out there and on my short-list.
Compared to the vast majority of flagship phones - they don't have these either. And this has expandable storage.
@@zKaltern until they start selling cloud storage and forget to add back sod expansion with the next phone
@@baconwizard That's a little cynical.. :D I mean, if their phones become a global sensation, then they'll probably have to start trimming costs a little - but I suspect they'll look at the rise and fall of companies like OnePlus and try to stay within their vision. In the EU, they HAVE to provide removable batteries (soon) and USB-C charging - so even Apple will have no choice but to comply - I don't think they'll want to lose that many consumers - and when Apple 'invent' removable batteries then it'll become a global standard again. (Storage will probably never come back tho.... :| )
Why? I'm a serious headphone guy. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of having a 3,5 jack on a smartphone any longer. It makes it more expensive and produces more e-waste. It's a minority only who would use it. They would also have to implement a decent dac/amp with it, otherwise it's useless and people would either use a dongle or like most nowadays some bluetooth earbuds.
@@techmed-rainer Bluetooth earbuds are the e-waste here, not headphone jacks that can be used with headphones that last decades rather than a few short years.
Watched it on my Fairphone 5 :) , I have FP2, FP3 and now FP5...good times! Having 1TB for under 100€ is a very nice "nut-punch" against the hipster companies like Apple and Samsung.
Apple and Samsung are normcore, FYI Fairphone is hipster af.
The last step for Fairphone would be to allow some level of customization when you buy it. Beside RAM and memory, it would be great to have a few options regarding processors, cameras, and battery (with price changing based on your choice, of course). That would officially make them stand out from any other smartphone manufacturer
I think that'd be really hard to implement besides maybe selling mainboards like framework is doing for example. Upgradable ram in a smartphone is unheard of afaik, changing the processor to me doesn't seem very realistic or practical, maybe they need some kind of "okay" from Qualcomm for that too, but Idk. Being able to change the whole board in an old housing or offering screen upgrades for an old phone might be more doable (which would still be incredible). As for cameras, maybe if they made slots and modules for the cameras that could work? I think it's a really cool idea to have an upgradable phone, but I'm not sure if Fairphone's willing or even able to do such a thing properly.
@@leowolastname2250 I wasn't thinking about an upgradable phone but rather about having multiple purchase options. Like you know how when you buy a Mac on the apple store you can choose different options for RAM, CPU etc?
So, for example, the Fairphone 6 could be sold with the possibility to choose between two CPU options, one that is top of the line vs one cheaper. Same with other components.
An actually upgradable Fairphone would be amazing but as you said, it would be incredibly difficult and I don't think technology is there yet.
Headphone jack. This phone desperately needs a headphone jack.
Honestly, you guys don't have to worry like I use to before about fixing parts for smartphones. Fixing a phone is not too expensive. You will mostly fix the screen, replace the battery, or fix charging port. It doesn't cost much to fix these hardware issues. Most issues are actually software related, which you can do it yourself if you search on the internet.
@@xCDF-pt8kj Moronic take. 25$ wired earbuds will sound better than 200$ airpods. There is no battery to constantly recharge, cables are just more convenient and more long-lasting. Also why does my pair of wired earbuds have media controls?
Ok the moment you pulled the USB C off just like that I was immediately sold. This is incredible... Just to think this kinda thing was always possible but intentionally avoided by large companies is just infuriating.
I know it’s so damn cool and now unlike Fairphone 4 it has enough specs to convince me the oled I wonder if the buttons can be removed though as eight years of use could see them fail and need to be replaced but the housing isn’t a part the sell only the front screen and back cover so could be an issue but I’m so happy they exist I’m tempted to sell my iPhone and switch and yes I’ve always had iPhone and just accepted there dirty tactics
You only now realise this? Of course it was always possible, if it wasn’t then companies like Samsung would have never had removable batteries
@@axethepenguin my samsung phone's usb c is separated by the sub board. Ofc now they put it in the sub board but my phone is special ig
This is the reason for me to pre-order one. Great to see that they're still keeping up with their modular design to make it easy to repair.
The dream... Would be extremely willing to switch to a Fariphone if ever available in the States. Very impressive.
Jerry, this is the sort of reviews we need from reviewers... great for humans, and humanity. Please do more "sustainable" stories, so brands see the benefit of that too! This phone clearly shows that durability is possible if there is a "will".
- sent from iPhone
My iphone x still stands strong after 5,5 years, btw. I'm not sure if fairphone will get all the software updates in 5 years and if it's battery will still be at 81% after 1500+ cycles. Only intel based macs were unusable after 2 years. M1 will be usable for more than 5 years from what I see.
@@Adrian_kali think fairphone is promising at least 8 years of updates
@@Adrian_kalWhat are you talking about,man?Just buy another battery and swap it?This isn't your iphone X...
@@Adrian_kalapple npc
Performance may matter for some people, but I think for most of us who just use our phones for watching videos and scrolling socials, this would be a much better option
you can just get a used phone.
Ever heard of a budget phone? You can get them for under $100 or even free through a carrier. They are still good enough to last 3+ years.
@@jacobnunya808Never managed to get a budget phone to last more than 6 months without becoming unbearably slow, even without installing useless crap on it.
"most of us" thinking like that are not willing to spend 750€ on a phone tbh
@juri14111996 including a used Fairphone. I've seen FP3 for about £100/$126
I am loving this concept. Imagine their sales if they could open a shop or outlet in every city or country where the average person could just walk in or order modules according to their preferences. Better yet, if they could assemble a new phone according to their budget and preferences. For example, since I do not take pictures or videos much, I do not need super high res pricey cameras. I could swap it out for a mid range camera reducing the pricing a bit.
nice thinking!
The logistics would be quite difficult. I don't even want to think of how to deal with the camera connectors.
Like building a computer! (I dont actually know how that works either but but i think it’s related)
It is a good concept, but I think it would be hard, since it would be difficult to actually use the space in the phone efficiently.
@@cube492atm it's not related, and it will be hard to be related one day (altough it could and I hope it will). The main reason is that you are not space limited inside a computer box which let you buy , for most components, the brand and model you want (usually). But here for the phone, you need to have specific sized and designed components
3:07 As long as they haven't released a newer model and haven't discontinued spare parts production yet.
Maintaining your phone for an extended period and having the capability to enhance its camera, audio, and potentially even the motherboard is a brilliant concept.
which is exactly what apple does every year, only upgrade camera and people buy a full phone.
Jesucristo te ama muchísimo, arrepiéntete de tus pecados y ten perdón de pecados en Su Nombre
@@dmavrommatisHe meant by yourself
This MUST be the future for all phones, sustainability and consumer rights protection
Fairphone goes to an extreme. It would be silly to make all phone have every part user replaceable because then sacrifices would be made in design and/or price. A phone really should just be designed to last about 5 years and not have unnecessary blocks put in place to being repaired.
Kudos
The past was pretty close to this. I have two LG G5's, both with issues from wear and tear. I swapped their parts to make one good one.
Zack's definition of perfect phone is very much different from everyone else, and I freaking love it 😂
Yesssssss
Agreed 100%
That's why it will never be popular.
@@treeman1988 And that doesn't matter in the slightest. Just like Sony devices aren't "popular", yet they are the perfect fit for a special kind of owner. It's about choice, you can buy a phone for 99 bucks and not care how it's made, you can buy gimmicky phones with lights on the back, you can buy into a very nice ecosystem like Apples or you can buy something made sustainably ethically. Some people care about thickness, others buy rugged phones which are also not "popular".
I think this definition will be coming more and more to the peoples head. The old thinking is slowly dying out and i find this very satisfying. I smiled the whole video because i agreed on every thing he said to 1000% :)
Great to see tech like this. Thanks for reviewing this.
Getting at least 8 years of updates is absolutely insane in a good way, but oh dear the headphone jack is still missing😭
Yeah, no fair with headphone jack.
It's not 8 years of updates, it's only 5 Android updates and apparently that takes them longer than 5 years.
Check their website to spot the BS.
Don't worry, they sell wireless headphones
@@stanimirnikolov159ah yes, the irony 😂
get real. there's no reason to cling to wired headphones in 2023. I used to think I'd keep using wired headphones until about 3 years ago.
Between FairPhone and Framework Laptops, we are headed in the right direction.
I want them both. I will play them just like little legos.
This is probably the only phone on which Jerry did the teardown first and the durability later😂
It's so interesting how this is essentially what any flagship Samsung or Motorola looks like if you're familiar with the repairs, just with verrry small changes to make it more user friendly. no flex on the battery, short and sweet flex cable for charging port, little things like that... im very comfortable fixing basically any smartphone and i still want one of these for me and all my friends, just seems comfy and low maintenance. $39 euro for whats probably a 10 USD battery is a bit steep, but when you consider a repair shop would charge 100 bucks for the repair, you're still coming out on top as an end user. not a bad business model...
Ive been using my fairphone for quite some time now with /e/OS (and yes, its insanely easy to load your own OS onto it too and all the drivers they use are open source) and im insanely happy with it. Its by far the best phone Ive had so far.
Hello, its in my opinion really good /e/os.Privacy is the best. Great phone with great repairibility.
Even CalyxOS can be installed on Fairphones
Wow, this is the first time im considering buy a phone thanks to your durability test. Seeing it taken apart so easily is amazing, and just what I always wanted. Since I'm in Europe I'll see more reviews, maybe I end up getting it! :)
That's exactly what I thought. Sadly the phone is missing a 3x telephoto lens for me
@@garnetklee9837 what the hell is a Qualcomm QCM 6490. It's a 2021 chip. 💀💀💀
TBH I wanted a foldable. Samsung's overall design don't appeal to me, so I looked for Oppo Find N (not available outside CN but possible to buy and use in Europe). I really liked it but I was concerned about its overall durability. Then I saw his test and how well this phone behaved - that was a key point that made me make a decision to buy it. And after a year I don't regret it :)
it would be cool if customizable back panels become a thing so people can customize their phone in a more unique way than stickers or cases
1990 Nokia would like a word.
It was cool about 20 years ago
You could probably 3d print one ig
It was a thing 7-8 years ago.
This was possible + additional features with the original Jolla phone
I remember how back a days all the phones were made that way, so you can literally replace every part with couple of screws, but now we have what we have
I'm glad to see Fairphone 5 having about double the amount of replaceable modules in comparison to the last time I looked at one's disassembly. I didn't really like to have to replace half the phone's internals if I had any problems with a single component, but this seems to have internals split into a much more reasonable set of component assemblies.
“This is not sponsored I’m just excited” ahh yes I can hear it in your voice. As I think this guys “excitement” is the most calmed in the world haha.
Thanks for all the videos and all the issues you address. The world needs more good people like you in it and it wouldn’t be the same YT without you here.
I am extremely impressed how modular and portable this phone is simultaneously. Making only Battery easily replacable would be a huge deal for Apple and Samsung. I hope they will be forced to do so
Why? If they are forced to do so that means no more water resistant phones.
@@jeffgayzose8129 that's incorrect. Samsung had ip67 ratings on phones back when they had removable backs and replaceable batteries.
It can be done, they don't want it to be done, because then you won't be forced to buy a new phone when your battery starts rapidly dying.
Why wouldn’t they be? We had those in the past before they were glued shut.
@@jeffgayzose8129 Why do you figure? There have been lots of water-resistant phones that had user-replaceable batteries, my point and shoot camera from 2010 had it, and if you can replace the battery you can reduce e-waste by a whole lot for a small investment. Batteries are one of the first parts with finite life to go on an otherwise healthy phone, it seems dumb that we lost the ability to replace them.
They would probably be better off using high quality batteries, along with battery care techniques, to deliver that battery longevity. I don't see why you would need to replace a battery if it did not go bad after a few years. Also using bigger batteries would help offset the loss due to battery degradation.
I think in the future we might be able to build smart phones like pc 😂
Watching you take apart this phone is just so satisfying. Durability, repairability, plus 8 years of update is just too good.
4:17 Jerry talking about himself in third person game me Brooklyn nine nine's Terry vibes 🤣 !
Terry loves yogurt!
Jerry, I don't know how you did it, but now I can listen directly in my language.
0:23 "lady and gentlemen..." he knows his audience LOL
I hope this becomes mainstream this is the kind of device we need. I hate it when phones nowadays are kind of disposable when a certain part gets damaged. This one allows for repairability and upgrades too.
sounds//looks like a dream
why do people in support of right to repair make false claims about the repairability of popular phones; the iPhone is modular, the problem with it is that the components are serialized, so you better send it back to apple to have it repaired, which is more expensive. but that doesn't mean an iPhone is disposable. it is not. most of the components can be individually replaced. the screen, the type c socket, and the screen are all replaceable by third-party repair shops.
I would love it if they would expand to the rest of the world, I've been keeping an eye on them to see if they have plans so do so, but alas it doesn't seem that it's going to happen
I wonder why they aren't - is it regulations stopping them or just the cost to expand.
Europe will soon pass a regulation to make batteries swappable in all devices. Phones, laptops, electric bikes, electric skateboards, etc.
@@milinddixit6583I think they've mentioned it's the cost to expand into markets they are unfamiliar with. That being said they did finally make the fair phone 4 available in the US but only through a third party well after it launched.
@milinddixit6583 they're launching the 4 in the US, but only with a non android OS. This announcement is kinda awkward for anyone who was thinking about that before
what @@Scorialimit said. though i *think* you can reflash it to have something like lineageOS, it was weird. but irc, they did this because the maker of the OS was also a distributor, so they were able to distribute it easily. i wouldn't be surprised if they do end up releasing the Fairphone 5 in the US eventually. if not, something huge or costly in the US must be stopping them...
i am a Fairphone 4 user, and it has been awesome so far. a good replacement for my OnePlus X that i used for 8 years (with LineageOS/Android 11)
Having just had this shipped from the UK, i honestly can agree. I wasn't expecting a whole lot but it has so far blown me away in some ways. The screen is brilliant, camera is sharp and it feels solid.
Side note that I was also kind of impressed the phone was not wrapped in plastic but rather something like wax paper or so.
I would buy this if it was available in the US. We need more phones like this. Hearing that pixel may be getting ride of the Pixel A lineup this would be a great addition to the US market.
For what reason would they get rid of the Pixel A series? If I'm not mistaken it's been their best selling products over the past few years? Can you cite a source I'm interested
Hey Zack, awesome device!! Now instead of daily driving a foldable, you could daily drive a Fairphone with actual replacement parts on your bag so you can fix it if you drop it!
I think you meant fix it after the durability tests.🙂
If the device will not be released in the US, it might be that you will not have proper 4G/5G signal in the US due to radio frequency differences between different parts of the world, but I am not sure about that.
Now that you mentioned, waiting for a foldable fairphone.. i really wish to see how companies gonna handle the eu 2027 agreement for foldables..
I assume you mean for the sake of demonstration in a video? You would order parts as they broke. He is not going on a 10 year voyage to the moon.
@@jacobnunya808 Zack was said a few videos back that he dropped his note 10 and it broke during a business trip where he had no way of using his device. So he said a few videos back that he was thinking about daily driving a foldable phone because if something like that happens again he will likely have another usable screen on his phone. Now with this kind of repairable it's probably worth for someone worried about this situation to actually have spare parts in your bag or in your car to be able to rapair the device on the go.
I had a Samsung Galaxy Nexus back in the day that had a easily removable battery similar to the Fairphone 5. The back cover was plastic (unfortunately not transparent), and could be popped off with little effort. Inside the battery was not glued down or anything and, IIRC, I could remove it pretty much the same way as Zack did on this phone.
most most earliest touch screen phone battery are removable, not only samsung
I had a Droid 2 whose battery could be removed in a similar way.
@@14bqdonkYeah I remember having a LG G3 then G4 and both had removable batteries
nexus, that's old time
Que fantástico poder ver seus vídeos em Português do Brasil! Somos fãs do seu trabalho.
If it was only battery I could swap out in 10 seconds, I would be satisfied! Reminds me of my Nokia days when I could easily swap with a second battery or get a friend's spare 😂 Then being able to crucially change the charging port and screen is a welcome addition ❤
I don't see a company like Apple doing this when they're milking your wallet - I think that stand is still their most ridiculous product ever!
With the new eu regulations they'll need to become more luke this otherwise apple won't be able to sell in the eu
@@Captain_MaeveWell I hope Apple will become less greedy and anti-repair, anti-consumer in the future and finally get to remove that damn notch that they have been keeping for years.
@@Captain_Maeve I really really hope this becomes a reality. If I could own a phone and swap the battery every 2-3 years I could use that thing for soooooo much longer.
Apple Sheeps would still buy that shitPhone😂
@@Captain_MaeveI believe they already found a loophole in the new law.
Since the days of the 1st Samsung Galaxy S, I dreamt about a modular(-upgradable) phone, I dreamt about my Galaxy S would be one. Because the S was about perfect size for me physically, but I would love to upgrade its screen to one with a bit higher resolution and brightness, just to name 1 desired upgrade from the many.
This 8 years of software update for the Fairphone is crazy attractive for me, my current phone had around 3 years of updates(2 generations of Android, and the last safety update came in late 2021) I definitely will dig deeper in this phone, and it's nice that I could get one no problem (besides money) here in Europe! (It wasn't the first time I heard about this company tho)
Frist galaxy was a legend beside the flacky chrome frame it was the perfect phone before it became to old. id love to see a sliding cover for the charing port on a modern phone
@@gggf654 this sliding port-cover is 1 really big fav feature for me! It was so thoughtful...
I would love for this to be available in the US. Would definitely be my next phone if it was
I wonder why it isn't. Looks fantastic!
I think Mureena will distribute in the US with their de-googled Android e/OS. But hey I'm in Australia, ordered my FP4 overseas in the UK by Clove Tech, no hassle, super fast shipping. There is a way if you really want. And the more they sell, the more pressure on the big names.
Agreed. Ofc it likely won't support Verizon even if it does come here, but we can dream.
Because US citizens are about the last people on earth to give 3 craps about sustainability. Or They'll preach about it all day and do nothing about it
I think its the perfect replacement for an LG diehard like myself! I wish it would come here, I wouldn't be able to hand my money over fast enough! They probably think we're assholes like the rest of the world does. This sucks. Smh
It's good to see such companies as Fair phone and Framework doing well! Cant wait for Fairphone to come to the US
I hope this becomes a standard for the coming years and for other manufacturers
I remember well the times, not too long ago,when every smartphone was built with a removable backside and exchangeable battery.
For my Nokia Communicaters I even had a docking station with an extra slot to load an accu. I often carried the 2nd battery with me and exchanged it on the fly instead of panicly searching for the next outlet to re-juce my phone, like nowadays still the Apple kids do 😀
sabe de um coisa nao se bloqueia imei.e pra comtinuar a venda e rouboo e nioa
One of the few things I missed from my old Nokia and Sony Ericsson is I need 3 weeks to charge the battery when it's starting to run low
Wow. That's some really good news. This type of repairability should become a standard in the market!
Lol that audio transcription has got me , i thought I'm in a wrong channel but it's good to watch your videos in my language
Fairphone 5 looks like a game-changer. It's amazing to see a smartphone designed for easy repair and sustainability
It's so cool how repairable this phone is! Great job, Fairphone!
" Perfection is so close, yet still so far away " best quote in this year , keep the good work up , best wishes ❤
Lmao, I started laughing when you started destroying the phone that's so committed to not being wasted. Pure comedy.
This brings joy. I loved repairing phones back in 2010-2015. When they started using strong glue, i lost interest in fixing phones. This even has a replaceable chargin port.. wonderful !
This was an instant buy for me, I'd put my order in before their launch stream had finished. My last smartphone was from 2014, so I'm doing my bit for reuse/longevity!
you can do even more by getting an used phone. You even get a better phone for this price.
Me too I'm still using my Lenovo P2 from 2016 ;). This fairphone will be my next phone.
@juri14111996 can't get updates though. That 8 years is unmatched. Most used phones are carrier locked. If you can get a newish phone used from a carrier, that makes sense. Additionally this has an open bootloader.
@@yeezet4592 where do yo live? I got my last 2 phones from my carrier, even they have no carrier lock.
I havent seen a phone with carrier lock in years, most new phones are even dual sim (one being an e sim).
@@yeezet4592 That 8 years isn't even true. If you check their website, there's an asterisk that says you only get 5 Android OS updates. That's not 8 years of updates at all.
Really love the idea of this phone, just wish it had a 3.5mm jack, not planning on replacing my Zenfone any time soon though.
Can't you just put a USB c to 3.5mm adapter in it, that's how I rock it
Asus closed zenfone division so you might to start looking for a new phone 😂
@@turk639 yes, but it's not the same, dedicated 3.5mm jacks have built in DACs, most of the cheapo dongles don't and break often, and it's a little ridiculous that it's necessary to carry sometimes two dongles and a phone just to drive headphones/IEMs at/over 32ohms when manufacturer's could just include a 3.5mm jack in the first place. At any rate, there's no justifiable reason to not just include one in the first place.
@@adjmalosen6191 they didn't, Asus did a press release saying that there was a misunderstanding and that "the Zenfone linup isn't going anywhere"
@@adjmalosen6191 Asus themselves debunked that as a rumor.
Thanks Jerry for promoting sunch amazing initiative
The back panel and battery reminded me of the Galaxy S3. Glad to see that we are circling back to repairability and reduce wastage.
FairPhone takes it to how we should've evolved, wish them Godspeed.
As always great work Jerry 👍
Yeah I had a Galaxy S4 back then and It's really good to see this great features and modularity of older phones coming back!
I'm really glad, that they decided this time to have at least "reasonable" computing power. Now it really makes sense to consider and feels competitive at some degree. Would be great if they will have some linux support too besides Android.
Note: previously I was looking many times to buy a decent phone that is not apple or samsung, but having 3gb of ram on many quirky phones was a no go! Really glad that they have this time at least 8gb of RAM.😅
I sadly heard there are some issues with the battery life because of the chip. I also wouldn't say it is a powerful chip, even for midrange, but all phones are so good that it doesn't matter that much anyway. But battery life does, that is the only thing low budget phones all get right. Hope this can be resolved with software.
@@tinminator8905 You don't buy this phone for the powerful processor. You buy it because they decided to use a rare industrial grade processor. This way they are sure it gets supported for the next 8 YEARS. That is huge.
@@arjen_k Yeah, but getting bad battery life for it is unacceptable. I literally mentioned that the performance does not matter that much. Please fully read the comment before replying.
Flagship phones should have the most powerful processors available though, should they not?
@@tinminator8905you can literally buy another battery for 45 bucks and switch it out when you need lol
This reminds me of my beloved LG G4. Replaceable battery and microSD card slot have always been a priority for me - it's just annoying that the vast majority of phone manufacturers have gradually done away with various features whilst increasing the price.
I use an LG V30+ now, which has a microSD card slot but no replaceable battery. The built-in DAC and headphone jack are features that I didn't know would become rare after a few years. It's still going strong and I have no plans to replace it for many more years to come (hopefully).
I loved my LG G4! And my G2 before that. It's a shame they didn't quite hit the mark with the G5, and an even bigger shame that they're no longer releasing phones.
Me too, I won't ever purchase a phone that doesn't have a removable battery, the LG V20 is also a great option, I picked one up this year for my son..
Still have my G4, I love this phone, the only thing I don't like about it is the locked bootloader, nothing can be done about it… Sadly. Updated it to Marshmallow and since then it became sluggish most of the time… How they couldn't do an optimized system for 3 gbs of ram ?
I'm still on my LG V30 too, but I recently cracked the screen and its cheaper to by a new phone 😭I'm surprising myself but the Motorola line of phones are the best on the market upgrade for me. moto g54 seems like the way if you're looking to upgrade anytime soon and its $300!
thank you Jerry for giving shout out to companies like Fairphone. This is exactly the kind of tech we should be using!
Commission Regulation (EU) 2023/1670
Man, that charger port removal looked so satisfying... My previous phone borked because it wouldn't charge anymore, if it only had this, I could have used it for a few more years. So happy to see this, and I sincerely hope it becomes the standard.
Edit: Just realized, it doesn't seem to have a 3.5mm plug. If they just added that, I think it would be perfect (especially because it is a bit pricey).
I agree with you! It only lacks a headphone jack...
not so fun fact, they pulled an apple, took out the headphone jack starting with the fp4 and started selling wireless buds instead, their reasoning was less parts to break so their warranty can be better, the buds they sell now aren't any more repairable than airpods but they do sell individual cases and buds. personally that move leaves a very sour taste in my mouth but they've done almost everything else right on the phone, with how modular the phone is, i wonder if anyone's working on bringing back the jack like how that one guys was able to put a jack in the iphone 7? i'd bet it'd be difficult but still orders of magnitude easier on this phone than any other phone...
i think it's more how most people like wireless than wire type thesedays
No. Give it a rest. There are adapters for the USB-C port. Also there are some headsets that don't even need the adapter.
Feels like this phone needs a 3.5mm why make a repairable phone when your gonna have to use a unrepairable headset with it
2:05 almost in tears..
At 6:00 I love how he explains calmly while demolishing the heck out of phone😂
I love how this came apart like every phone I've had before I got a sealed battery phone. I want to go back.
The main issues i encounter with any phone i purchase is that over time the battery life degrades (obviously), the charging port starts misbehaving and very rarely the screen has issues. With this phone all that could be fixed without having to buy a new one 👌🏼
Just wanted to throw my voice in for bringing this to the US. I've been trying to cleanup and do whatever small part I can, and this would be a nice addition. As an aside... every time I watch him doing the scratch test, I wonder if he's wearing a mask or the area is insanely well ventilated so he isn't huffing aluminum dust every time he does one of these. :D
Just import it, we in the EU have been doing the same for ages
You can cut aluminum sheets with a grinder without any ventilation for a few hours a week with no problem, the amount of dust in these scratch test are basically zero.
Thanks Jerry once again !! it's really a Gem ❤👍
@jerry imho
you should start a scoring system with a table, to show all the results at the end of each teardown.
You are really an inspiration and a reliable ( not biased ) source. Tks
8:10 _ "Perfection is so close Yet still far away." The USA Will someday have that perfection at our fingertips! 😃😃😃😃😃
The framework of mobile devices. Super cool! May need to get one someday! Hoping they come up with better water resistance in the future!
Thats how old phone used to be and newer should have to be, kudos fair phone looking for to get one for sure.
My only issue with it is why they removed the headphone jack. Feel like that's a big miss from a company touting repairability and caring for the environment in mind
Are you also still using a VHS with scart cables? I bet not.
@@jaypaans3471 We are, just watched old family videos last weekend. Also still have a CRT for my SNES. Different market than an iPhone for example
@@jaypaans3471 not a valid comparison, I don't have to recharge a bluray player or my roku. wireless earbuds are a genuine inconvenience in my book.
@@jaypaans3471bet you are not using your 6 months old tws. You just didnt got thenpoint of fairphone's logic. Wireless earphones are having more e-waste than phones itself. Also they sounds bad. Btw i watched few VHS tapes of my parent's wedding shoot.
Whatever the reason Im sure it has nothing to do with them also selling "sustainable" wireless buds and headphones :)
I loved the idea the previous fairphones, but I could never justify the price (within my budget), usually I end up getting a used previous year's flagship for less than half the price instead
I bought a brand new s21 plus 256 for half of what it retailed for when new. there was very little difference between the s21 and s22 for 100-150 dollars more. third generation flagships seem to be the sweet spot of price to features
@@first_last01 funnily enough mine was an S21 also, it was less than half price because it had a scratch on the back, doesn't bother me one bit 🤗
well, you not only pay the phone in the case of FP, you also pay the humans who work for you holding the device in your hand. If this is not a good reason to pay more, I don't know. We all want a fair pay, why we want to deny it for people working for us in mines or factories?
@@Signofevil_Smile4theCam I hear you and I agree completely. All companies should pay their staff and dependents fairly, it's a crying shame that they do not. Sadly, many consumers also don't get paid fairly and don't have £600+ to spend on a phone :( I've never been able to afford a brand new phone, always second hand, but if I ever do find myself in a position where I could, I'd choose FP 👍
A dust or water test would have also been nice. Also if it had a 3.5mm jack I would have bought one instantly.
usb c to 3.5mm jack converter is sold seperately....but its not the same :(
@@Epsilon9-tt7oo The adapters break pretty much instantly and the sound is crap with them. I tried for 4 months. Worst phone experience ever. If you love music, stay away from this garbage phone. And never recommend adapters. They are seriously so shitty.
@@helenanilsson5666 Yikes!
Europe is again ahead of everyone!! Affordable, reparable and high quality too!
It's insanely hard to design products like this. Sucks it's not available in the US. $750 is still pretty steep tho.
For me it says €699, which would be $760. But you've got to remember that that is including 21% VAT. So excluding tax it would be €578 or $629.
Dude it may be cheap to you there are other countries who can't afford 750 buks
My monthly salary is equivalent to 400usd here in india
@@MiracleManGaming A "steep" price means that it's expensive. So he's not saying it's cheap ;)
@@einstijn138 yeah my bad😅
Could you try it's water resistance? I'm already stunned by it's durableness, but that would be my main concern.
I would love to see this available in the US market. This is a solid repairable phone
I love my FP5. Great device.
Little big but it's nice having the screen realestate as someone who uses it more as a PDA than a phone.
My Samsung Galaxy S5 4G LTE had a plastic snap on/off back and easily removable/replaceable battery. It is one of the most common sizes of battery and readily available online for less than $10. I was happy to keep using it until Verizon did something to their towers and system that caused the phone to randomly drop the signal so I couldn't make or receive calls.
And the phone was waterproof(IP67). The buttons, the speakers, the charging port cover and the backplate have a rubber seal around their edge.
@@talos86 Absolutely. And, for being a single camera phone, it took excellent pictures in a variety of situations and the video motion tracking focus was better than my expensive DSLR camera.
Not true. Those batteries cost 59 euro back in the day
@@fayereaganlover And, a simple plastic cover that would be $10 to $15 (USD) on eBay would be 3 times that much at the Verizon store. But, I bought my phone used on eBay and the same for accessories and replacement batteries. The battery used by that phone was and still is among the more popular batteries, thus lots of companies made compatible batteries for that phone.
I don't doubt that the name brand cell stores in Europe charged much higher prices.