For context: around that time it was very uncommon for brazilian players to have access to an international credit card. So quite frequently brazilians would buy premium from foreign players like Sipag at Tsaga (Alan, the english owner). He mentions a few high level characters (including Setzer's guildmates): "Safado'Botinho of Hell, Cebo, Loc, Agente Kidanu, etc" That's why he threatened charging back all the 3-month premiums in Julera (which results in getting all those characters banned).
Looking back I really wish I was a few years older back in 2001-2004 during the glory days. If my friends and I had shared one character/had multiple rune farm chars and botted like everyone else was doing we could have enjoyed the game so much more than being a bunch of noobs running around at level 20 forever 😂😂.
@@jonbradley4044 I have far more fond memories of the game and people I've met just fishing and making runes and eventually doing a big hunt with them than I ever did when I ended up just grinding for levels. When average players eventually figured out the meta and everything got spoiled, the game devolved into only about getting more equipment, money and levels.
Matar quem pagou o valor do hunted é mto vacilo. Perde toda a credibilidade. Mas seria interessante ouvir a versão do Setzer sobre o que foi dito por telefone e o que postado no fórum.
sera que era esse cara que colocava p.a pra geral por grana no jogo? lembro que paguei 90k por 3 meses de p.a e depois de um tempo o cara cancelou, tomei ban e pra tirar o ban tinha que colocar outra p.a, ou seja, perdi a conta
I actually knew these guys back in the day, Sipag, Blazing and Suttle were all like family from UK, I was friends with Paige Insanity, alan is actually suttle insanity if I recall correctly
Sim. Entrou na mira da dominante, já era. E em alguns mundos se vc passasse de determinado level já era hunted automaticamente. Na Isara dos Del'Toro era mais ou menos assim.
Sim era foda mesmo. O caminho certo para subir era entrar em uma guild que a dominante respeitava, e obviamente ter amigos leais. Eu entrei numa guild neutra mas que era bem antiga do server Lunara (DAV). Se não me engano era só lvl 70+. Eu não estava livre de tomar PA, mas era mais difícil, se eu tomasse o líder ia lá apaziguar. Depois que estava lvl mais alto, participei de umas wars e consegui entrar na guild dominante.
De 2009 não, desde 2007. Foi mais ou menos aí depois dessa época que o Fábio vendeu o char pra o tal paulista que era da Brutality e a Ownage perdeu a guerra por isso, todos levamos hunted na época. 2009 isso já fazia uns anos e já estavamos jogando em outros servers, como Elera.
High level MS were like gods of death. Even if you werent afk they could jump you and 2-3 hit even high level EK's before you had time to process what was happening and even try to UH.
@@nexienex Can you prove me they couldn't be killed solo? What I'm talking about is, everyone was lagging back then, some even played with horrible pings/pcs, the guy wanted to say mages could come and take you out without you even noticing. And I agree, since mage was so op all you had to do was hold one hotkey and it would spam UE, EK's really didn't have time to even process what's happening^^
"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" CIP did nothing to curb PA, and it really did make Tibia both the best and worst game ever as a result. It was like a social experiment in a way.
For context: around that time it was very uncommon for brazilian players to have access to an international credit card.
So quite frequently brazilians would buy premium from foreign players like Sipag at Tsaga (Alan, the english owner).
He mentions a few high level characters (including Setzer's guildmates): "Safado'Botinho of Hell, Cebo, Loc, Agente Kidanu, etc"
That's why he threatened charging back all the 3-month premiums in Julera (which results in getting all those characters banned).
But did he cancel all the premiums?
n sei qual parte foi pior, a do cara pagar PA pra geral ou o outro "nunca pensei q ia falar com vc" depois do cara ter cagado pra ele, kkkk
lol that's a Filipino guy. Sipag at tyaga means - Hard Work and perseverance.
Alguém sabe o que esse cara postou no forum do tibiabr?
The irony being Setzer was shared between 2 brothers and later a third guy before being sold lol.
I could never share my char with my brother lmao.
I think dulokz had a brother that played with him as a duo but i can't remember the brothers char name. But I'm not sure if this was true either
@@michaeldapore1061 almost everyone that was super high level in the early years there shared outside of El Bigo
Looking back I really wish I was a few years older back in 2001-2004 during the glory days.
If my friends and I had shared one character/had multiple rune farm chars and botted like everyone else was doing we could have enjoyed the game so much more than being a bunch of noobs running around at level 20 forever 😂😂.
@@jonbradley4044 I have far more fond memories of the game and people I've met just fishing and making runes and eventually doing a big hunt with them than I ever did when I ended up just grinding for levels.
When average players eventually figured out the meta and everything got spoiled, the game devolved into only about getting more equipment, money and levels.
What happened after this did alan leave or go to war with him? Im curious to know if anything ever came of this
Matar quem pagou o valor do hunted é mto vacilo. Perde toda a credibilidade. Mas seria interessante ouvir a versão do Setzer sobre o que foi dito por telefone e o que postado no fórum.
I actually liked Sou Chato (Setzer Gambler b4 his forced name change) when he was midlvl. I was a supplier of his.
sera que era esse cara que colocava p.a pra geral por grana no jogo? lembro que paguei 90k por 3 meses de p.a e depois de um tempo o cara cancelou, tomei ban e pra tirar o ban tinha que colocar outra p.a, ou seja, perdi a conta
I actually knew these guys back in the day, Sipag, Blazing and Suttle were all like family from UK, I was friends with Paige Insanity, alan is actually suttle insanity if I recall correctly
I was rl friends with Sipag at Tiyaga (the filipino owner) before Alan owned the account.
So quem jogou tibia antigamente sabe como o sistema era bruto. Era foda tomar hunted, praticamente seputava o char, nao tinha o que fazer não.
Sim. Entrou na mira da dominante, já era. E em alguns mundos se vc passasse de determinado level já era hunted automaticamente. Na Isara dos Del'Toro era mais ou menos assim.
Sim era foda mesmo. O caminho certo para subir era entrar em uma guild que a dominante respeitava, e obviamente ter amigos leais. Eu entrei numa guild neutra mas que era bem antiga do server Lunara (DAV). Se não me engano era só lvl 70+. Eu não estava livre de tomar PA, mas era mais difícil, se eu tomasse o líder ia lá apaziguar. Depois que estava lvl mais alto, participei de umas wars e consegui entrar na guild dominante.
And this is why people don't like tibia anymore. PA fk the game :) enjoy ur tibia with 50 online per server all from same guild :)
Hail original Setzer Gambler! (the char was played by another person from 2009 on)
The original Setzer Gamblers name was Sou Chato
De 2009 não, desde 2007. Foi mais ou menos aí depois dessa época que o Fábio vendeu o char pra o tal paulista que era da Brutality e a Ownage perdeu a guerra por isso, todos levamos hunted na época. 2009 isso já fazia uns anos e já estavamos jogando em outros servers, como Elera.
High level MS were like gods of death. Even if you werent afk they could jump you and 2-3 hit even high level EK's before you had time to process what was happening and even try to UH.
what, higher eks were impossible to kill solo lol
@@nexienex That's what you think :D
@@simuntigmo6220 can you prove me otherwise?
@@nexienex Can you prove me they couldn't be killed solo? What I'm talking about is, everyone was lagging back then, some even played with horrible pings/pcs, the guy wanted to say mages could come and take you out without you even noticing. And I agree, since mage was so op all you had to do was hold one hotkey and it would spam UE, EK's really didn't have time to even process what's happening^^
@@simuntigmo6220 so we're talking about killing afks or what?
Alan was always a little too cocky for someone who bought his way up
Does Alan play anymore?
@@michaeldapore1061 idk. Last char I knew he played was Suttle Insanity
All top high levels were fck PA
Eternal also?
"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
CIP did nothing to curb PA, and it really did make Tibia both the best and worst game ever as a result. It was like a social experiment in a way.
Tibian thiefs :/