5 11 Covrt 18 Impressions | Newer isn't always better

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  • @ohfisez
    @ohfisez 3 роки тому +4

    So happy to have a new American Drifter. I learn something every time.

  • @pereze75
    @pereze75 2 роки тому +7

    Great review. I love the original bag and was hping the 2.0 would have improved on the design. After watching your video I decided the 2.0 isnt for me. What really did it for me was the removal of the big sunglass pocket and front 2 pockets. I love the spaciousness and flexibility of those pockets. Thise were the deal breakers for me. Looks like ill be sticking to my original COVRT18. Thnaks again for saving me money on something that would have sat in my closet.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @Ernesto Perez. Thank you, happy to help. I'm glad you're happy with the original 18.I'm still using mine. Thanks for watching

  • @Trigger_Treats
    @Trigger_Treats Рік тому +2

    I've really liked my 1st gen Covrt, but after several years its time I started looking for a replacement. I like the exterior lines of the 2.0 and I was considering either it or the Rush 24, but you confirmed that 5.11 got rid of all of the features I liked about the Covrt. Thanks for the detailed, honest, and user-oriented review.

    • @HM-qf8ml
      @HM-qf8ml 8 місяців тому +2

      They're making a new one for 2024 or 2025 I believe. :) Just in case youre still deciding.

  • @kurtdubling3026
    @kurtdubling3026 Рік тому +3

    It’s pretty crazy how the 2.0 looks like it would be the shitty original and the original is the top notch amazing upgrade

  • @martynasplukys5146
    @martynasplukys5146 2 роки тому +4

    I have the old version for the last ~8 years, using it daily for work, hiking, travel trips. Washed few times with machine wash - like new. Only handle started ware off around lines, because from time to time I am carrying heavy things in my bag. I was thinking to by 2.0, but now in doubt :( ...

  • @ryewhiskeyfan5946
    @ryewhiskeyfan5946 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this review. Was looking for a side by side comparison.
    I've had the V1 for a few years. I love it. It's been a work bag. EDC bag. Just finished a 10 day road trip last month with it. Was my carry on and EDC bag for it. I could probably do without the very front two pockets. I wish the bottle pockets were a little deeper. It does get front heavy if you are not carful when packing it. I have no major complaints about this bag.
    The shove it pocket on V2 is about the only thing I like on it.

  • @jesperkjaer8268
    @jesperkjaer8268 3 роки тому +5

    Agree with your conclusion. I've used covrt18 as my everyday carry for several years and I absolutely love it. With the new version there is simply too many changes I just don't like.
    Only thing I like is that they removed the two rubber "patches" on the back. They tended to pull up my t-shirts 😅. Luckily it can be dealt with using sandpaper. I also wouldn't mind the new sidepockets. On the whole I'm going to buy a new one (the old version) in a short while. On a related note - the stores selling the bags here in Denmark have all lowered the price on the new version so it's now 10% cheaper than the old version. And yes - I contacted a seller and he said it's because people prefer the old version.

  • @barmstrong25
    @barmstrong25 3 роки тому +4

    I own the newer version. The added stretch pocket is great for a wind breaker or rain jacket.

  • @tjmueller2592
    @tjmueller2592 3 роки тому +6

    Really feel they needed a 1.5 instead. And for the ccw pocket, to have gone the route they did on the new rush bags. Same type they used on the moab and box covrt.... So many of their bags are "almost right" to me. Love the hazard nitro, just would have wanted bottle pockets instead of their trek pole slots? And the internal molle should have been standard orientation. Save the horizontal mount molle for sling bags.

    • @rossauce12
      @rossauce12 Рік тому +1

      Thats the only thing keeling me from buying the covrt from the rush. I dont like how the ccw compartment isnt sealed. Id be afraid of it slipping out.. i wish the rush 2.0 had the white zippers damnit I really like that white accent. Trivial but still

  • @Th3Resurreccion
    @Th3Resurreccion Рік тому +2

    Great review of both. The only thing they should’ve changed on 1.0 are the anchor points and the mesh side pouches and it would’ve been solid. Other than that the 2.0 is a great bag to be a complete “gray man” as to where 1.0, it’s not as flashy with the MOLLE loops like other bags but the anchor points somewhat give it away .

  • @Iambatman1939
    @Iambatman1939 2 роки тому +2

    Great comparison video. I was thinking of getting the covert 18 v2 but hadn’t seen a lot about it out there. I might just wait, now that I’ve seen both together, thanks. Subscribed, keep up the good work. 👍🏼

  • @ljaysperspective1775
    @ljaysperspective1775 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate the detailed review, and I can clearly see why the original would work best. 5:11 should have considered sticking a little closer to the original version before manufacturing the 2.0. I think that I may go with the 2.0 version because of the clean anesthetics and the lighter material on the inside, which, for me, is a plus. I just sold my Rapid Quad Zip back pack, but I'm still hanging onto my Rush Moab 24 version one. Thx enjoyed the vid. 👍

  • @PreppingWithSarge
    @PreppingWithSarge 2 роки тому +1

    I like 5.11, the RUSH 24 is my favorite pack. Would love to see them rework the Rush 12 sling pack tho

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @Prepping With Sarge. I still have the 24 but I think the 12 is my favorite. My friend has the Moab and likes it. I'll be back one of these days. I've been watching your videos, good stuff.
      Keep it up!

  • @itsaperfectdork
    @itsaperfectdork 20 днів тому

    Im got the 1st one and feeling a pull towards the second one. i just hope it isnt as floppy over time like the first one. it still holds up though

  • @justin-hurd
    @justin-hurd Рік тому

    Old one is my favorite bag, but their impossible to find now.
    I often use the bladder sleeve to carry my laptop, and just put my own padding sleeve on my laptop inside it. You can remove the plastic part in the bladder part and put armor in it if you want to.
    Lost my velcro badge flap, and a common thing was the bungies for the drink meshes to break, both of mine have, but im never getting rid of this bag.
    Atleast, not until I can find another one.

  • @mikemurphy8067
    @mikemurphy8067 3 роки тому +1

    I've carried the original everyday for years now. Some good upgrades would have been lowering the clips that hold the bag together so you could access the main department when it is clipped together, take out the plastic thing in back, change the front two small zipper pockets to velcro, replace all zipper pulls, put 550 cordage on the front anchors, remove the velcro straps on the front shoulder straps(not sure what they can be used for) and minimize the velcro in the front pouch (just have the hook and loop). They could also get rid of the two loops to roll the front pocket down to expose the velcro, it's a little silly. The 2.0 just seems like an entirely different bag altogether. Realistically, I feel "bugout bag" is utter nonsense, however the original may be able to help you get home in a time of crisis. Overall the original is a great bag. I'd buy version 2.0 if they made these concessions. Great video review!

  • @armeddiver
    @armeddiver 3 роки тому +2

    Based on your review, the original bag would fit me much better and I think it is a much better bag overall. The anchor points I use to attach carabiners and other things that I need quickly. I have a North Face bag that is very similar to the original 5.11 bag.

    • @lguzman130
      @lguzman130 2 роки тому

      What model Northface bag please?

    • @armeddiver
      @armeddiver 2 роки тому +1

      @@lguzman130 I’m sorry, but I don’t know what model it is. I have checked the website and they don’t seem to have it anymore. I have had it for almost 10 years.

  • @jeffweber3295
    @jeffweber3295 Рік тому +2

    I have the 1.0 the 2.0 looks cheap with less options for more money. The only thing I don't like about 1.0 is the handle position, prefer it on 2.0

  • @ernierico
    @ernierico 3 роки тому +7

    The older version is better, had it for 5 years and has done it all security work, hiking, school, even road trips. 5.11 did not read their customer reviews on their site, would have seen everyone loved the old but only wanted touch ups.
    100 agree with your review man go with the older version if you can find it

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  3 роки тому

      @ernierico. Thank you for sharing your long term experience with this bag. I think it will help people make an informed decision. I'm using mine as my GHB now, it's a great bag all around.

    • @martynasplukys5146
      @martynasplukys5146 2 роки тому +1

      I have the old version for the last ~8 years, using it daily for work, hiking, travel trips. Washed few times with machine wash - like new. Only handle started ware off around lines, because from time to time I am carrying have things in my bag. I was thinking to by 2.0, but now in doubt :( ...

  • @jamesmullen287
    @jamesmullen287 7 місяців тому

    I have the older version and have had it for what seems a lifetime. The shoulder straps have let me down and torn and frayed. i was going to get the new version but after seeing your comparison video it has made me think twice. Do you know where i can get my hands on an old version? Oh and one other thing i am based in the UK so there may be issues shipping it into the UK as i have had problems with some other kit i have tried to order not being shipped to the UK.

  • @davidfrye3990
    @davidfrye3990 2 роки тому

    I am a long time user of the original COVRT18 but recently bought the 2.0 for my daughter to use for school. She decided it wasn’t for her and I lost the receipt, so I’m stuck with the 2.0. I much prefer the original COVRT18. I use it for work on a Navy ship, light hiking, and as my range bag. The eyewear pocket is large enough for my eye pro (glasses or goggles), and ear muff style ear pro. The 2 pockets between the attachment loops are great for a packable rain jacket in one, snacks or navigational aids in the other. The admin compartment at the top front of the original pack disappoints me, as I wish it was large enough for a tablet or composition notebook but I make it work. I find that the shoulder straps and back panel are much more comfortable on the original. The original doesn’t look like it, but the main compartment is large enough for me to pack my NWUs (camouflaged uniform) if folded and compressed & boots; I can’t do that with the 2.0. 5.11 nailed the CCW compartment and water bottle pockets with their LV18 and I wish they would have carried both over to the 2.0 backpack. Finally, I prefer to keep my laptop and water bladder separate. The original COVRT18 has served me for many years without any rips or tears and I hope it will continue to do so for many more years.
    P.S.; you didn’t mention the zip tie holders on the original COVRT18. I never used them but they are there.

  • @ArcheryDad2024
    @ArcheryDad2024 2 роки тому +1

    I have the original version & while I like it, I WISH they had done the CCW pocket different. I'd much rather it be closer to the back as I feel that if you are carrying a weapon in that pocket it seems like the bag sags forward even when I have it cinched down tight.

  • @eedeegee
    @eedeegee 2 роки тому +1

    Nice side by side review, thanks. One question, does your 17" laptop fit in the 2.O compartment outside of the sleeve?

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @edruga. I'm sorry I sold the 2.0 so I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else can answer that. Thanks for watching

  • @TheTranq
    @TheTranq 2 роки тому +1

    I own the original and love it, but I really wish it had the high vis interior.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @TheTranq. Yes that's nice to have. There are several bags from Vanquest that have high vis interiors. Great products from them.

  • @CageyTroller
    @CageyTroller Рік тому

    This seems like a nice get home bag, i know one of the front pockets is meant to put your handgun into it. With the extended strech compartment pocket added, it be nice to put a mini chest rig in there with an ar pistol and other stuff if you choose to do so.

  • @1580BoC
    @1580BoC 2 роки тому +1

    Great review. I've used the older version every day for a number of years. While it's holding up like a champ I'm not looking forward to the day I'd have to replace it. Anyone know where you can still buy the older version?
    The sunglasses pocket, the small admin pocket, and the handle are my favorite features on the old version yet they completely stripped those away.
    Seriously, anyone, where can I still buy the older version?

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @Christian Schulz. Thanks for your kind words and for sharing your personal experience with the bag. I'm still using mine as my dedicated GHB. You may want to try looking on eBay or OfferUp for a replacement.

  • @LoneRiderz
    @LoneRiderz 3 роки тому +1

    That pocket would be a great place for headphones or ear defenders.

  • @happyamerican3235
    @happyamerican3235 2 роки тому

    Looks like a cevrt18 mixed with an Osprey Daylite plus backpack. I have the Osprey and wanted something a little larger. The rush bags are to military looking. Need a rush without the molle webbing.

  • @JohnDavis-ol7qg
    @JohnDavis-ol7qg 3 роки тому +1

    I ordered what I thought was the older bag, but got the newer one. I love the review. I was looking at the more Tactical bag, but wanted a more typical looking bag to take through the airports and have as my go to bug out bag. I do like the compartment to keep my tactical first aid kit. Its thr perfect size for it.

  • @strangerous1313
    @strangerous1313 Рік тому

    I bought the newer version online, and am pretty unhappy with that open area you mentioned. I gave it a friend who rides a bicycle a lot, and loves that feature. I wish I had seen your video before ordering it.

  • @myrthmaker
    @myrthmaker 2 роки тому +2

    I have both and regret buying the 2.0.

  • @Jesus-eg3yb
    @Jesus-eg3yb 2 роки тому

    I like both backpacks, but also not a fan of the helmet compartment with the new one. Did you sell the old version? I can’t find it anymore since release of the new one.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      I still have the old version. You can try searching eBay or OfferUp. Maybe there’s still a few available. Thanks for watching

  • @PelmeL12
    @PelmeL12 9 місяців тому

    Will it be enough place for the MacBook 16?

  • @Scotty86doo
    @Scotty86doo 2 роки тому +1

    I actually wanted to buy the original but its sold out, I felt like that "turn it into a plate carrier" thing with the admin pocket was the best selling point for me sadly they got rid of that.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому +1

      @Kealin. You may be able to find it through other sites or used. Thanks for watching

    • @Scotty86doo
      @Scotty86doo 2 роки тому +1

      @@AmericanDrifter yea found one on Ebay but it's the only one I've found

  • @danielliu8653
    @danielliu8653 Рік тому +1

    Should kept the original!! Will buy more than one if it's back.

  • @patrickyoung2106
    @patrickyoung2106 3 роки тому +1

    What watch are you rocking in this vid? Older COVRT rules.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  3 роки тому +1

      @Patrick Young. It's the classic G-shock DW5600. I usually cycle between that and the blackout version.

    • @patrickyoung2106
      @patrickyoung2106 3 роки тому +1

      @@AmericanDrifter nice. I the same. Classic with combi band and the black out 5610 tough solar.

  • @eddysuyachmir2244
    @eddysuyachmir2244 2 роки тому

    Would you know where I can purchase the older model? I have been looking everywhere here in Australia but would appreciate even a direction in the states. Thanks

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Eddy. You may want to monitor eBay and offer up. Maybe one will pop up there.

  • @xavierdraco33
    @xavierdraco33 2 роки тому +1

    OG for the win

  • @inyourdefense0
    @inyourdefense0 Рік тому +1

    Good review. I much prefer the original version. I've heard mine since they launched.

  • @jcusak
    @jcusak 3 роки тому +4

    I have both and I prefer the older bag. More functional and better use of space.

  • @stlover8011
    @stlover8011 Рік тому

    I can't find the first gen backpack help please 😢

  • @gizmosgadgets4146
    @gizmosgadgets4146 3 роки тому

    What’s a good way to prevent this pack from bulging in the center? I’ve used it for years and ran it ragged unfortunately, I’m tempted to buy a new version but it still lacks compression straps in the middle which is my biggest roadblock

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  3 роки тому

      @Gizmos & Gadgets. I haven't experienced that issue with the bag. It's possible the bag stretched after years of use. The AMP might be a good alternative if you're not interested in the updated version of this bag. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

  • @9parasqn656
    @9parasqn656 2 роки тому +13

    Looks to me like they're trying to make the new one cheaper to produce. I much prefer the old version.

  • @shuntao3475
    @shuntao3475 Рік тому +1

    Love to find me an original. Other than being sleeker, the original seems to be a Far superior bag.

  • @BlackTalonZero
    @BlackTalonZero Рік тому +1

    It's like 5.11 said in a board meeting, "You know all the cool things from the original? Yeah let's do away with that."

  • @anthonyorr1000
    @anthonyorr1000 3 роки тому +2

    Oh yeah!!

  • @huihihiohjio9046
    @huihihiohjio9046 3 роки тому

    Can anybody confirm whether or not the laptop sleeve in the 2.0 can hold a 15.6'' gaming laptop (thus, on the bigger end of 15.6''). I prefer the 2.0 by far for my use, especially because of that laptop sleeve in the backside compartment but my laptop needs to fit in.

  • @joeptummers
    @joeptummers 2 роки тому +1

    I have had the older version since 2013 and used it extensively in some of those shitty middle/far eastern countries. I wanted to replace it but I can't find it anymore on Amazon and the 2.0 is not something I want to buy for that price. I particularly dislike the flap for the helmet, like they put on the Rush 72, it's inconvenient and clumsy and helmets I either carry in my hand or they hang on a carabiner on my plate carrier. That put the laptop where the water bladder goes, which is fine, I used it for that already cause the pocket on top when full, would make it difficult to remove a large iPad/laptop. The new version does look more covert and less tactical. The old one also reminded me at times of a bookbag. Btw the drain holes rings were the first to go and in the places I went I always had sand and dust in the bag, I used duct tape initially and later had the whole bottom reinforced and closed from inside the pack. I'm not critical that they removed them.

    • @joeptummers
      @joeptummers 2 роки тому +1

      I would rather consider the Entity 27 or 35 from maxpedition

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @J. Tummers. I agree, I had the 72 for a time but didn't care for the helmet flap either and it was too large for my needs. The drain holes are only useful for edc, also had the sand problem in a smaller rush bag. Great feedback, thanks

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @J. Tummers. I know those would be good options. I am personally not a fan of Maxpedition's new designs. They are a good company and make quality gear... I wouldn't tell anyone not to buy from them. I just prefer look of other brands.

  • @danielmcilwee7008
    @danielmcilwee7008 Рік тому

    I can't buy the old one anywhere. That's too bad

  • @wherethedaytakesyou9337
    @wherethedaytakesyou9337 Рік тому

    Good info 👍

  • @Wayfarer45
    @Wayfarer45 2 роки тому

    Why the hell would they do away with the sunglasses pocket? Makes no sense to me.

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @Dave of the Dead. I feel the same way. The sunglasses pocket on the old version is huge and one of my favorite compartments on the bag. Thanks for watching

  • @antoniobotello4996
    @antoniobotello4996 2 роки тому

    I agree 👍 💯 👏

  • @S3aCa1mRa1n
    @S3aCa1mRa1n 2 роки тому

    This or the 511 amp 24?

    • @AmericanDrifter
      @AmericanDrifter  2 роки тому

      @Odoacer. This is the 5.11 Covrt 18 version one and 2.0

  • @TheFlyingKiwiNZ
    @TheFlyingKiwiNZ 8 місяців тому

    I just had my original stolen this week, really gutted because they don't seem to sell it anymore. The 2.0 looks rubbish in comparison.

  • @happyknife8785
    @happyknife8785 2 роки тому +4

    How do you f**k up a version 2 so bad? Version 1 far better bag.

  • @JoeBagrie
    @JoeBagrie 2 дні тому

    Had my c18 original stolen out of my car. Really upset as no one sells the original anymore! The 2.0 sucks

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom Рік тому +2

    5.11 screwed up royally with the "improved" version.

  • @jjackson4834
    @jjackson4834 2 роки тому

    I ice when a reviewer gas already made up him/her mind before reviewing a product.

  • @johnsteele2986
    @johnsteele2986 Рік тому

    I can confirm the 2.0 is utter dog shite!
    It fits terribly, the continuous binding tape that runs around the back panel rubbed my back raw, the attachment for the waist strap is to high so it sits around the mid section, just a really disappointing cheap cash grab.
    It's such a shame you can't get the original any more.

  • @CableProductions
    @CableProductions Рік тому

    Well I can tell you don't know what an admin pocket is. At 5:53 you open up the original covrt18 admin pocket.