SEQUENTIAL TRIGON-6 and OB-6 synthesizers-sound comparisons
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- I compare the TRIGON-6 and OB-6 synthesizers from SEQUENTIAL to see how similar they can sound. I create a patch on each and compare patches made for this demo. Demo by Deep Synths. www.deepsynths.com
00:00-Intro
00:45-Chapter 2-Oscillators
06:30-Chapter 3-patch 1
07:35-Chapter 4-patch 2
08:41-Chapter 5-patch 3
10:24-Chapter 6-patch 4
11:04-Chapter 7-patch 5
11:50-Chapter 8-patch 6
12:09-Chapter 9-patch 7
13:10-Chapter 10-wrap up
Prophet Rev 2 here love it!
Nice demo those are both super amazing!
Nice! Thanks for checking it out!
I sold my Rev 2, and while I do miss it somewhat, I replaced it with a Trigon, so now I have a Take 5, Trigon 6, and Prophet 10. . .In an ideal world I’d own every synth, but I should be okay with what I have. ;)
To me the OB-6 has so much more voice separation. I really love it!
Can't go wrong with the OB-6! thanks for watching!
Yeah I agree. Plus that high end sheen.
They're both cool but I think I prefer the oscillator options on the Trigon-6. I didn't realize they could sound so similar. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for checking it out!
It seems like I am in the minority, but for me it's the Trigon all the way! The filter sounds sweeter, richer, any extra oscillator makes it warm and fat. The OB's great also, but...
I recommend watching this video with the video frame covered, just revealing the timeline. Write down the time of the bits you like and then watch it again to see which synth it was. I seem to prefer the Trigon 6 sound, at least based on the sounds in this video.
Blind test are very helpful! thanks for watching!
Nothing against Trigon6
because if they do a module version I will surely buy one
but wow
the OB6 is a beaut
I hear ya!
They just released module version today
this was great. very nice programming the patches so close, but it's great they retain character. it looks like the trigon has more versatility with the osc and filter options, but there's something really special about how the OB sounds.
Thanks very much! Yes the Trigon just feels more like a first "go to" in the studio for basic synth sounds that also sound very rich and powerful. The OB-6 is like starting up that classic muscle car, it's got attitude but it might not be the best daily driver depending on what kind of music you make.
Awesome demo - both synths sound lovely👍👍
Thanks! Can't go wrong with those 2.
BTW, if you like funky synths, check out the Prophet 5 funk video on this channel.
having owned Prohet 6, Ob-6 and Trigon 6 I'd rank them as Trigon 6 first, then Ob-6 then Prophet 6. I prefer my Prophet 10 to the Prophet 6 anyway (much richer and fuller sounding). I like the OB-6 for the things only it can do but overall I prefer the Trigon 6 as it has more weight to the sound, is less samey and has the range of a prophet with the character the P6 lacks. OB6 and T6 are both great synths but if I can only have one synth it'll be Trigon 6, its sound is more present and powerful. I also found the OB-6 lacking in versatility at times, great as it does sound, it wasn't the best at more bread and butter analog sounds.
Hi! Good points. I noticed some of the same things at times with mine. The Trigon does have a lot of "punch" to the sound. It can be very forward sounding while still sounding smooth if you need it to be. It definitely has a workhorse feel and is good for getting things done in the studio. The Prophet 10 is an amazing tone machine. It just sounds beautiful. You don't even miss the extra features the modern sequentials have, it's not about that. Thanks for checking out the video!
If you were getting your first/only polysynth, which would you recommend out of the four (prophet-6, Trigon, OB-6 or Prophet 5/10)?
I already own a matriarch btw
Trigon 6 is way underrated! Probably my favorite analog that I own, including the Prophet 10. I feel like a lot of people didn’t “get” it, and feel the need to be able to categorize or label a synth, but it’s just an incredible sounding synth, period.
They sound a good bit different to me, but they can do similar stuff.. I can't tell which I like better though, they are different, but one doesn't sound better.. I feel like I'd use one for certain patches and the other for others..
Yes, one doesn't really allow me to unload the other even though they can cover similar ground. I find myself reaching for the Trigon when I need a certain sound where I reach for the OB-6 when I think "this is an OB-6" part. if that makes sense.
Being a Bass player also, I love your comments on the wood 😂 Very well made comparison - thank you very much!
Thanks!
You did a great job matching these patches to demonstrate similar sonic character where applicable. Trigon Module for me (to compliment my OB) if they do one. Cant see why not--after they milk these keyboard orders for a while. Interesting to see how Sequential implements a module now that they've been purchased by Novation. Funny how the Novation rep strategically omitted any reference to "Moog" when reviewing the Trigon's filter configuration.
Thanks very much! I have no doubt they'll be a module coming, that's how they usually role out these products. I believe Sequential was bought by Focusrite which may also own Novation if I remember correctly.
I love my Trigon 6! Underrated for sure. In the OB territory, I only have a UB-Xa right now, but I’m thinking of either selling it for a Teo 5 or just buying a Teo 5 as well. Would love to see an OB6 vs Teo 5 video!
Nice demo, both sound great! Looking forward to a Trigon desktop🎹
Thanks! I imagine the desktop will be coming soon which is a nice option.
if you look at the amount of knobs and buttons, I think they will have to make the module a bit bigger, or it will be very tight.. there is a lot more stuff then the ob or prophet.. I feel like the trigon already looks tight as it is.. it's almost covered with controls.. maybe it's my eyes though? Idk. I feel like it's tight as is on the full synth..
@@Leviathan-mj8gi the Trigon has 44 knobs and the Ob-6 has 43, I didn't count the switches. ha ha
@@deepsynths oww well that's basically the same, idk why it looks more, maybe it's the layout, like I said my eyes screw with me when I just look at something, I have to actually count them or I get far off..
@@Leviathan-mj8gi I think the modules sell pretty well so I'm sure they'll make it work. There are definitely more knobs on Trigon than OB or P6, but the Rev 2 desktop has roughly the same amount.
T6 seems like a nice compliment to the OB-6. I'd still pick the OB-6 first if I was shopping today, but not by a huge margin, and the T6 has decidedly pushed the P6 into 3rd place of the trio. A T6 would be a better one-and-only-one-synth-for-me option if someone was limited to just one synth. The T6 sounds more "standard" than the OB-6, which may or may not be what someone wants.
The Filter and OSC options on the Trigon just make it more versatile for me. So yes, if I had to pick only one to use on many different productions I'd probably go with the Trigon. However the OB-6 can go into areas that Trigon can't due to the OB-6's sweepable filter type selector. So some may find that to be what matters most, or that OB-6 character. Thanks for checking it out!
Think the p6 is still the best. Ymmv
I've had all 3 still got Trigon 6 and OB-6, good compliment (T6 is a better all round synth than the P6 imo which I let go without worry and replaced with a Prophet 10 r4 that sounded better). T6 and OB-6 are the best for sure. T6 for a workhorse OB-6 for full on character.
I ended up buying a Prophet 10 over a 6 and don’t regret it. If I need the flexibility and sound design options, I have a Take 5 which can do so much more than a P6 - IMO Take 5 + Prophet 10 > Prophet 6.
Great demonstration. However, I wont be sure which I buy untill I try them both. The OB reminds me of my once owned Juno60. They both sound awesome to me.
Thanks! Yes, trying for yourself is definitely the way to go if you can. The OB-6 seems to be the most immediately "80's" of the bunch in the way it sounds from the start.
Trigon 6 vs Prophet 6 next? Please?
Good idea! I'll to put something like that together! Thanks for watching!
The OB-6 has a state variable filter which I find really useful to pull in a little buzz over the LPF. I don’t believe the Trigon can do that.
the Trigon has a 2 and 4 pole LP filter option. You can get the OB-6 and Trigon to sound similar but as far as the filters go, they react differently as you make adjustments. The resonance on the Trigon needs more attention than the OB-6. The Trigon can stretch further but you have to think about what you're doing more than the OB-6. The OB-6 reminds me somewhat of a Juno with it's easy big sweet spot. Thanks for checking it out!
They both sound great, but l, as an OB6 player, myself, I really like the growl and aggression that the OB6 has. It doesn't seem like the Trigon quite gets there. On the other hand, the Trigon seems to be able to do smoother sounds better. Horses for courses, I suppose.
It's interesting to see how the different filters cause them to have different "gravitational centers" if you know what I mean. They can both get aggressive sounding but the OB-6 has more of a hairy edge when it does. The Trigon-6 on the other hand can get harder sounding more easily. So it's like 2 flavors of aggressive I guess. Also, yes the Trigon seems to get smoother quicker but the OB-6 can have this soft quality I like at times more easily than the Trigon. It's like fuzzy and soft vs silky and smooth yet focused when comparing pads. Thanks for checking it out!
@@deepsynths Yeah that's exactly it about the OB-6 I think. It has this kind of bright buzzy or fuzzy edge to it, even on the Triangle, and you can dial in just a bit of it by turning the filter mode knob up a little bit from full Low Pass. I love that sound. I also like how there's kind of this little bit of breakup in the low end on the OB that sounds almost like some sort of arcing electricity or something.
I just got a NINA from Melbourne Instruments this week and it can also do that type of growly fuzzy sound very well, but it has a 4 pole filter. Very very cool synth and great sounding.
@@christopherventer6391 Yeah that bright edge can be dialed out more on some sounds than others but it takes a little work sometimes. It's an OB-6 so, hey, let it be an OB-6! you know what I mean? ha, ha.
congrats on the NINA, the OB-6 would have been cool with a 4 pole option.
I notice with the Oberheim sound, it can be a bit nasally sometimes. I hear it on my OB-X8 and on OB6 demos.
The Trigon can get downright aggressive with the overdrive knob engaged!
Both are very good. I would buy the OB-6, it sounds more "heavier" & grittier.
I often think the Trigon has a smoother "creamy" sound as long as you don't overdrive the oscillators too much. Thanks for watching!
@@deepsynths You are correct, I heard the video again.
Which one has the snapiest enveloppe ? The one that have faster attack i mean.
It's very close. If you compare both with filter and env set for maximum snappiness the Trigon gets more into that "zappy" sound area, but only by a little. The OB-6 retains more of the original sound. Neither of them have that automatic Roland snappy envelope thing that happens without even trying. The Prophet 5 envelopes get snappy faster. The richness of the sounds these synths create is really their strong point. If I want a snappy synth part, I don't think of the OB-6 as the first answer most times.
I have done this with all my Sequential synths. All sequential synths basic program sound the same or at least very very similar (only the Pro 2 and P12 are different with their digital waveforms) . The filters are different, but with different setting you can create the same basic sounds. Anf not every synth has the same waveforms, but the SAW is the same with all of them. They start to sound different when you add filter or waveform modulation, XMOD and as you canb hear in this video ADSR can be different. Each synths has it's own sound/power when doing complex sound designing, only then the differences can be massive. If you only want to make basic patches, you don't need more then 1 Sequential synths.
Is the bass deeper /fuller on the ob6 ?
With the Trigon's 4 pole filter option I find it easier to dial in a deep "smooth" bass. Both can get very full but I prefer a smooth bass most of the time. Some may like the different tonality of the OB-6 for the type of music they make. It always seems harder to tighten it up compared to the Trigon. The 4 and 2 pole filter option is one of the reasons I bought the Trigon.
@@deepsynths thanks
If you were just supposed to have one synth? which would be? Trigon or OB-6
How does the Trigon compare to a Rev2? Soundwise.....the Trigon a touch grittier? Watch a number of vides, just curious if you've compare the two? This comparison was great, thanx!
A friend of mine has the Rev 2 and really likes it but I don't care for the sound of it compared to the Trigon. It's not bad I just like the Trigon and OB-6 better. Haven't done a shootout of the 2 though. The Trigon can sound punchy and get crazy but it can also sound "creamy", that's the word that always come to mind. If you try a Trigon, be sure to try it with and without effects on. Also, like the Pro-3, it "runs hot", so turning the OSC's volumes back actually smooths it out on some sounds (I own a Pro-3 and was told they "run hot", which was obvious, by someone at Sequential, meaning the OSC output level not temperature). Thanks for watching!
10:42 sounds like an epic start ot a song at a festival
Cool! Thanks! Yeah, it has some of that emotional 80's melody thing going on.
Hard to say which one is better. Ob6 is more rough and dirty, Trigon is smoother. I have ob-6 and I was thinking of getting Trigon for a while, but it’s too similar. Probably going for Rev 2, or maybe Behringer UB Xa.
One thing about using the Trigon in the Studio vs the OB-6 is that I use it for bass sounds more than the OB-6 which I really don't think of when working on bass. The Trigon can create these solid, smooth deep basses I like more easily. Basses that match or better the Pro-3 sometimes. Especially running into the right EQ and preamp. Thanks for watching!
@@deepsynths OB-6 can make great bass sounds too, I was surprised it sounded so good because I've never seen anyone use it for bass sounds.
@@JaroAtry Hi Jaro, yes the OB-6 can do bass sounds, I agree. Most synths can do some kinda bass, especially when listening to the synth alone and not in the context of a track. For me though, the Trigon just works faster and better at making solid deep smooth basses intended for commercial release and being compared to other commercial reference tracks. Especially in the Dance/House genre. It's beat out the Pro-3 for the bass job a few times. Of course it also depends on your taste and style you're going for. Maybe the OB-6 would have the perfect bass for a track your working on. Bass in songs can vary greatly. I enjoy both of these synths overall! Cheers!
@@deepsynths Thank you for your insight! I don't have the Trigon so I don't have anything to compare. I do mainly do kind of dirty analog synthwave sounds and for that OB-6 is pretty good.
@@JaroAtry Oh yes, the OB-6 is like a portal to the 80's/synthwave world. It's great for that! The midnight use one live, I've seen them twice and that's what they had on stage. Interestingly enough, when I got to ask them about production before one of the shows they said they use a lot of software and Roland cloud synths! Their records sound great, so there you go!
Without a multi-mode filter it would be pretty difficult for the Trigon to go into the band pass/high pass type territory (band pass/high pass pads, strings etc). Those kind of sounds are actually used in modern production. It's great they included a 12db mode on the Trigon. That's very valuable. They should have included a high pass too however. That would give it a lot more scope. But maybe there is a way around this I don't know. Sequential have released filters as part of their digital effects suite on various of their synths. Generally though a multi-mode filter will allow you greater scope and more variety of sounds.
I see what you mean. It probably wasn't what they imagined when they though of this synths character. I think these "6 series" synths aren't really designed to cover all possible options so some things seem to get left out in favor of performance in other areas.
i toured with a Memorymoog for many years. I want the Trigon to be the new MM but there’s something missing. It was an extremely raw beast of a synth, never in tune but always a blast to play. It’s sound cut through everything going on on stage. I own an OB6 and it definitely does sounds like the OB I had in the early 80’s. The Trigon is a nice synth though, I like it. My two cents
There's definitely a lot of questions about the Trigon and how it compares to the Memorymoog because of the design of the Trigon. I never really thought of it as a straight on copy. For example, the new Prophet 5 is suppose to be a Prophet 5, period. It's been very helpful for me in the studio and really easy to gel with. So that ticks the boxes for me. Interesting insight you had. Thanks for watching!
If one of them were to be your only synth, which one would it be?
Hi, just saw your comment for some reason now. If you're still interested I have to say the answer is it depends. I like the OB-6 for certain styles of music and for the character of the sound which reminds me of 80's synths. However the Trigon seems to be the one I reach for more when I need a sound while working on a project. So if I was being completely practical I'd keep the Trigon. I'd miss the OB-6 though. thanks for watching!
So Trigon better for leads OB better for pads?
You can do pads with the Trigon as well. Sometimes a pad on the Trigon is better suited for a particular mix. It depends on the situation. They're both very capable. Thanks for watching!
They both sound amazing IMO, you really can't go wrong with either... The light colored wood sets the Trigon 6 off!
True. And yes, the light colored wood does frame it nicely. With it's mostly black front panel it just works. If it had dark wood as some prefer, it wouldn't have near the presence in my opinion. Sequential know what they're doing.
Is it just me or does the OB-6 have a "phasing" sort of sound when playing multiple keys? Almost like there's a bit of portamento or something between the two; whatever it is, it sounds AMAZING. I think that alone kinda sells me on the OB-6 over the Trigon, although they do sound very similar.
The OB-6 feels looser compared to the Trigon. So that may be what you're hearing as phasing, some movement that's part of its character. It's cool but I find the tighter and more focused character of the Trigon to be useful and a nice change at times. Thanks for checking it out!
Totally different sound to be fair!
Sometimes I think that and then other times I'm like "man these things are close minus the filter". I guess it depends on what mood I'm in as to how I'm hearing them. Thanks for checking it out!
The T6 sounds so much better. Better weight with those midlows on those midrange notes. People don't realize it is much better to have a 3rd osc than a square sub, since you can turn that 3rd osc into a square sub but still retain all perks & benefits attached to a fully fledged osc. What Sequential won't say is that the T6 pretty much makes both the P6 and the Ob-6 irrelevant now
Hi! thanks for checking out the video! I do love having that 3rd Osc with the option to change thew wave form. It opens up a lot more possibilities. There are some places you can go on the OB-6 that the Trigon can't reach due to the LP, Notch, HP and BP filter adjustment option on the OB-6. That may or may not be something the user utilizes in their music.
What a completely ignorant thing to say..
3rd Oscillator is definitely different than a sub, unless we’re talking DCOs, but what you said was pretty much my thinking when I bought mine. Definitely the most underrated of that lineup!
No matter how much of a synth expert you think you are your opinion is useless for every other musician because they have their own. We are just a community sharing our thoughts based on interest to celebrate our passion.
If you have experiences with synth you know arguing about sound preferences is a nogo from users no one likes.
And i tell you a secret:
I prefer the ob6 and i also prefer the prophet 8 over the trigon.
Maybe thats to much for your little world but it's my honest opinion.
No. But they're both great creations.
Ob6 by far
Hey, the OB-6 is a modern rockstar in the synth world. They don't come along that often. That's why it has such a following. Thanks for watching!
I would definitely get this over the Prophet 6 but the OB6 still wins to my ears, however, by a close margin. I love the Trigon's 3 oscillators and Moog-like ladder filter but the blonde wood panels are a turn off.
The Trigon and the OB-6 work pretty well together. One seems to cover the bases that the other one doesn't do as well. They make a good team. The wood color is a funny thing. The first thing I thought when I saw it was "Hey that blonde wood looks cool!" I was surprised later on to see it sort of become a debated topic. It's kind of irrelevant anyways. When you find a great sound in the Trigon that's perfect for a track and you record it, listen to the playback and then smile, that's what really matters. Not the cosmetics. Thanks for checking out my video!
@@deepsynths I plan on getting a Trigon 6 tbh, maybe I can darken the wood with a stainer. 🤔
The light wood makes it look fresh and modern, and blondes are always more fun.
The OB6 has an older soul I think.
I can see what you mean, the Trigon is on it's first "go-around", ha, ha. Thanks for checking it out!
All the way OB-6 for me. It has something special (mostly in the highs) which Trigon lacks.
The OB-6 definitely has a unique character. Like a "loose sparkle" that just comes to it with ease. Thanks for watching
OB 6 sounds better
The OB6 has a ton of character. That's for sure! Thanks for checking it out!