This is so dear to my heart. I lost two of my neighbors in the Challenger disaster and a dear friend from Texas Tech in Columbia but our dear friend Jeff Williams gave us the opportunity to see his first flight up to space and I can say I had an astronaut at my wedding. I’m over the moon that we are back on US soil for launches.
Wow, I know how near and dear this is to my heart so I can't even imagine how big of a deal this must be for you!! Thank you for sharing your story and it's so great reading comments like yours! I literally watch the entire broadcast of the crew demo to Mission, I went to sleep when they did, but can only sleep a handful of hours. You look at all the chaos going on and then you see the greatness of people uniting to make something amazing happen like crew dragon and all the people that were watching from around the world and it gives me hope in humanity because there's so many great things we have and can't achieve and I hope to see many more of those wonderful things in my lifetime, your lifetime and those whose heart these things touch! I hope this came across clearly, I'm using voice to text and I have a lot on my mind so hopefully there typos like don't didn't get turned into do or something 😊 hope you have an amazing and wonderful week, month year life and I'm sure you'll always be rooting for space, I know I will :-) take care and thanks again for sharing such a heartfelt and inspiring story, it really triggered a lot of thoughts and emotions as I was reading it!
DME EMD thank you for those kind words. My kids tell me I’m obsessed with it now and honestly I am bc the US is back in business for our space program which is awesome. I’m waiting for them to return to see how it compares to the shuttle coming back into reentry. It was interesting to hear them talk about the differences going up into space. I also hope that the kids of the future will want to make a goal to be sn astronaut. They really are the future of America today.
When Bob and Doug come back from demo mission 2 don't be surprised if you see interest in science start to explode in this country especially aerospace engineering as well as interest in commercial space flight., not to mention becoming an astronaut. I grew up during Gemini Apollo shuttle and now crew dragon it has been one hell of a journey. Let the journey continue with a new generation carrying the torch from shuttle to Artemis to Mars
Or let GOD'S WORD tell you Daniel 7:4 it's wings where plucked off !! Listen to 18:30 of this video it's like Daniel is speaking through that astronaut !! Falcon heavy is the 4th beast john seen destroy the sky / earth in REV ( the Dragon gives power to the BEAST ) ( ISS )that gives false image the world worships 🌎
Finally, 45 minutes ago, as of this comment, Doug Hurley and Bob Benkhen are now above the Earth, in the first US spacecraft to take off with a crew in 9 years.
Agreed!!! ...and are now currently docked and inside the ISS! Of the (just under - they ended up slightly ahead of schedule) 19 hours they took to get to the ISS, I slept for about..well just a tad less than they did, lol, couldn't really sleep and also couldn't stop watching the coverage, especially as the capsule (quite literally) inched closer and closer to the station... absolutely amazing and epic! I wish it would have flown over where I lived, it would have been absolutely amazing to see the ISS with crew Dragon behind it. I did get to see, on accident, the ISS with the space shuttle trailing behind it once, that was a really special moment!
No matter how may times I watch challenger explode, it still gets me every single time. Im not even American, but i can feel the enormous pit in my stomach. RIP challenger crew.
Worst part is the crowd thought that it was meant to happen you can hear them cheering until they realise even the parents of the teacher were cheering
+T B. HOLLY CRAP you an idiot or what you get info the challenger crew alive from conspiracy website they just show similar looking photo and you fall fall it, get real evidence this been debunk long ago and it so old. no one use it anymore.
The team of engineers at Thiokol who had designed the O rings had warned that they could fail at low temperatures. Rubber goes hard with the cold and cannot expand and settle in its groove with the pressure and seal said groove, as Richard Feinman demonstrated in the enquiry. The chief engineer who raised the alarm (and ignored by management) was later fired. He never found another job in the aerospace industry. As an engineer, I have often had clashes with managers with no scientific background, who have no idea of how inflexible the laws of physics are. You cannot bribe nature to modify the laws of physics to suit your financial interests. Period.
Paul Makinson: Good comment, some pretty smart people at M.T were not taken seriously. Did they figure out who made the final decision at NASA ?. EDIT: I didn't know Feynman was involved in the inquest..this a typical Feynman comment from the Wiki entry on the disaster enquiry. .. "It would appear that, for whatever purpose, be it for internal or external consumption, the management of NASA exaggerates the reliability of its product, to the point of fantasy" ..... I personally am not smart enough to argue a scientific point with Feynman, doubt anyone at NASA were either.. his explanations were always beautifully simplistic.
True but without risk we never move forward. Every industry has had its risk crossing the oceans to come to America was a risk. The first airplane and car we’re definitely a risk. We will move forward.
When the first Columbia flight, NASA still concerned. They panicked when some of the tiles were missing. When it landed safely, it turn out to be the start of NASA's normalization of deviance.
Despite the tragedies, the shuttle was an amazing project, this is an excellent synopsis of the program. A great engineering feat into the unknown. I have huge admiration for all involved. Well done USA and NASA.
@Nicholas Ennos The shuttle still need a engine to fly/glide. It would be stupid to have it without an engine for re entry. 747 use for transport the shuttle you idiot, what about all those shuttle launch with rocket and booster tank attach to them? are you ignore fact?
we have advanced technology and space programs that are done in secret thats why "they" the government doesnt fund it anymore. but "they've" been trying to hold the industrial military complex to account since the days of Eisenhower and bring these things forwards, but it is a national security issue unleashing advanced systems to the public domain. instead we get the benefits of it like silicon chips, fibre optics, exponential growth in computer technology etc - many years after the r&d actually allowed for these things to be manufactured. but energy technologies are a big no for a myriad of reasons.
What they fail to say is the engineers before launch said this would happen because it was to cold. The engineers asked them to stop the launch and where ignored.
they didnt even needed to point that out. the solid rocket booster didnt have a "go" below zero degrees celsius. thiokol gave them no guarantee under those circumstances.
Asked them to scrub launch, where you hear that? I thought they got sidetracked into the wrong possible issue due to the weather. 47:07 Admit to knowing failure was possible or probable and would depend on backup O-ring
Yes , I thought that as well but that PAO was in a tight spot and he did really well . The most striking comment was heard on the controllers loop - "RSO reports vehicle exploded".
Yes you'd gets even more bizarre years and years and years and years the United States said that they have the most efficient engine that seems not to be the case the Russian Federation has those engines and they had them already four years and years and years and now the United States needs the Russians to bring them into outer space it's so funny how things change
The problem was with challenger that the rocket booster engineer roger knew that discovery was close to disaster and tried to stop the challenger mission 24 hours before it took off..... no one listened to him, he literally screamed at the people in charge in a meeting room to tell them not to launch.
1 out of the 2 major accidents, the challenger mission, wasn’t a fault of the shuttle, it was the fault of the higher ups IGNORING engineers BEGGING them to not launch.
I always wonder how unsafe shuttles were built. The huge cabin easy to destroy, no protection for the crew, no emergency systems at all. The 1966 Soyuz has very effective emergency system for ascending, saving numerous lives and almost bulletproof landing cabin not failing after early 70s.
It is the workmanship, honey. 737 MAX affair disclosed major problems with design and manufacturing quality at Boeing. It seems Boeing is becoming too old to compete. Its days of glory are gone and I assume they have not only too many highly paid executives but also are unable to attract high level technical personnel who instead goes to Space X, Virgin Space etc.
But how many soyuz' have been destroyed and the Russians dot say anything. They're not the type to tell the world they've had a failure with loss of life
Jack Benton software fix was due to inability to hang bigger engines on the aircraft due to lack of adequate clearance. This was a workaround making design more cluttered. Investigation after the accident indicated that there were workmanship issues on the assembly line (wiring). While I wish Boeing all the best, their Starliner was not able to reach LEO. Musk and his Crew DRAGON ride to ISS made Boeing design obsolete. In comparison to Space X, Boeing has too many hands off highly (over)paid executives. I’ve seen that first hand on while FCS program
Jack Benton I’m glad they fixed software and restarted production. Boeing stock went up to Over $205 per share on Friday. Hope it continues. But Space X outclassed Boeing anyway. They docked Crew Dragon to ISS, Boeing was unable to reach LEO.
"When I first saw the space shuttle, I thought 'there is no way anything this big is getting off the planet" The Saturn V rocket is gonna blow your mind.
watching this after watching the crew dragon today... man the shuttle was a beast. falcon and dragon are so sleek and futuristic looking by comparison. judging engineering by how future-ish it looks is absurd. but still :-). falcon sure looks awesome.
Much more experience building ancient capsules, shuttle was new concept (old idea) functionality rather than the best looks, that would come later. LM tried to engineer their own shuttle and failed miserably. Given only a shoestring budget, MD's shuttle passed from the beginning and the engineering for improvement continued until LM forced a takeover. Then all progress came to a grinding halt. Rather then hand LM everything on a silver platter? MD's hard earned tech? Mobster Aerospace. Now in charge. Actually shuttle is very attractive if you look at it. This is the Thank You given to the American Company for winning the space race to the moon when no one else could. Railroaded out of business. Wavy hand salute.
@The foam Farmer yes sir, i understand that. wasnt trying to disparage the shuttle, im super sad it ended. the shuttle , good or bad, was the worlds only real space ship ever. Not a pod or flying garbage can that can crash land but an actual space plane(/glider). was just generally commenting on the size :-).
Yeah, my mom and brother went to watch the Falcon Heavy 2 lift off! They got to sit in the VIP area and sat (NO JOKE)like yards away from Elon Musk and the Space-x Crew!!!
The biggest fundamental problem with space exploraratiom was makimg it compatition in the first plave. Should have been a global efftort. We'd have been to Mars by now. What do I know. I'm dru.k.
The claim that "friction" causes re entry high temperatures is nonsense. The real reason is compression of the air which cannot move out of the way. The compression effect is the same one that increases the temperature of air in the cylinder of a diesel engines enabling spontaneous combustion of fuel as it is injected.
Your claim is the same of friction, the compressed air is just the the thing that the shuttle is having coalition with, its the friction of the shuttle and the compressed air..
Even after so much collaboration and establishing an 'International' space station, some people think of space in just American point of view! No country can operate cost effective space programs individually anymore without putting burden on the taxpayers. Collaboration is the way. Space programs should be for the betterment of entire human race. Not just for showing off.
@@AndreStapert It had visitors from several countries, and international experiments, too. During its life, the US and Russian human spaceflight programmes were effectively merged.
Wow. The first flight of Columbia had missing panels on the heat shield and the reason for the destruction of it years later was because of missing panels after damage...eerie to say the least.
The destruction wasn't because of missing panels. It was because of a 12" diameter hole in the aluminum wing. The heat of reentry entered the hole in the wing and caused it to fall off.
One of the greatest achievements in the march of space exploration. Hubble repairs were amazing. ISS was only possible because of shuttle. What an effort. The US must be back there.
WRONG! Space Station Mir only used it once in construction, so the ISS would have been possible without. Hubble would have been another project as was necessary. The shuttle was just a handy tool, not the reason why.
1986 I was 19 year's old and I'll never forget that day never! I remember that day it was a bright sunny day with blue sky's and the whole day was just beyond quiet in Alhambra CA! It was eerie and haunting! Much love and respect to the families that lost love ones that day! Much love and respect from pasadena ca!
I watched enthralled at the age of 9 as NASA first sent men to walk on the moon and have never lost my sense of wonder at man's ingenuity and courage. Only a couple of centuries ago we didn't know what electricity was and now look. This is only a temporary hiatus, humans are far too curious just to let it go.
The space shuttle that flew was a massive departure from its original intent. Following Apollo, NASA had some truly grand plans. Had NASA been given what they wanted, we would long ago have put footprints on Mars, assuming the technical challenges could've been overcome. But those plans didn't match the political reality of the time. Nixon cancelled plans for a space station and cancelled the Saturn V but wanted a reusable spacecraft that landed like an airplane. NASA had money for a spacecraft but nothing for it to actually do. So, NASA tried their best to make the Shuttle all things to all people. The DOD decided they wanted something that could launch from the west coast, deploy a satellite in a polar orbit, and land after a single orbit. In fact a launch facility, which was never used, was build at Vandenberg AFB. Congress wanted something that was commercially viable. The scientific community wanted a research platform. The end result was a vehicle that was incredibly complex and expensive.
Why seem some of the astronauts be so focused on nationality? From my experience with science, scientists are usually more passionate about the research, about the goal, pushing the frontier of human understanding, but they usually don't care much about nationality...
I am a child of the cold war. Remember Mercury, Gemini, then Apollo and the mood landing. Even after the 1st moon landing, it never got old for me. I am in my 60s and I still get excited watching our Astronauts go to space. Totally Amazing.
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe. Frank Zappa
+nayanmalig You an idiot, so you think Nasa waste money by go to space? You read to many conspiracy, have you read about what they invented/involment that you use every day?
@@jetli740 Pls stf... Its a common fact that every new piece of tech almost all the time was invented for millitary purposes. Thats not a conspiracy theory but a fact. And yes the spaceshuttle was obsolete thus a waste of tax payers money. Nuclear power, the internet, spaceshuttles... the list goes on and on.
The heat of reentry is not due to friction. The heat is a result of the compression of the gas in front of the space shuttle. The gas can’t move out of the way quickly enough and so compresses and heats up.
A pioneering spirit, including space exploration, is key to human endeavor and discovery. Our world progression, indeed survivability, is dependent upon a consensus of inquiring minds.Tis true that two heads (or more) is better than one.
Ironically, on this day and time, when the Challenger exploded, I was in my Astronomy class planetarium in highschool. My teacher left the room to watch the launch, just minutes later to tell us the shuttle had exploded; it was as if he was in shock and then dismissed our class. This tragedy still haunts me to this day. It never should have happened,especially to this beautifully-talented and diverse crew. Excellent audio and video production btw. May the hands of God be with the crew as with us on earth. Thank you for sharing.
So confident that the suttle was the safest of the safest space vehicule ... they didn't even put a crew safety system in case of problem. If there was some kind of protected parachutes system on the crew compartiment implemented during the vehicule conception, some of the Challenger crew members would have survived the accident.
Parachutes were not in the crew cabin because it was never intended to be separated from the orbiter, plus if you eject you may find yourself in the fiery exhaust from the SRBs which is also bad, basically from the moment of SRB ignition to separation(first 2 minutes of flight) if something goes wrong your fucked if it can’t wait until SRB separation.
@@Oklahomarailfan. Still far better chances than exploding alongside the main tank and then free falling from an hight altitude. Usually finger-crossing is the worst safety mesure.
@@cottoncatt1186 doesn’t change the fact that they were never going to put parachutes on the crew cabin since it was NEVER intended to leave the orbiter and would just add extra weight. On the first few flights of the shuttle (Columbia) it had 2 ejection seats on the flight deck for its 2 person crew on the test flights, though they had height restrictions and were the only abort mode possible before SRB separation. after the test flights and flight crew increased to 7, they removed the ejection seats because it couldn’t save all the crew. I do believe the space shuttle had the potential to be safe if it had been properly funded and politicians left the design to the engineers.
The Challenger crew didn't die in the explosion, they died when their intact crew capsule impacted the ocean at 200mph. The proposed launch escape system most likely would have saved their lives.
And it failed because spending the same amount of $ on less expensive conventional rockets would have boosted the space exploration and technologies way more than the shuttles did.
Dude, if the US is dependent on Russian technology to go to space nowadays, it's only because of the space shuttle program. It was a money-pit and a death trap that never came close to achieve its initial goals : a reliable, reusable & cost-controlled spacecraft. FAIL is not the wrong word actually, it is an understatement.
1:10:15 India did it, Mangalyaan - India's mars probe which is currently in mars orbit collecting scientific data and we did it in 10 times less cost as compared to America's Maven . Just a comparison not ill talking so haters please show your hate elsewhere . I am pro science and humanity !
Yes, India is a great example of humanity. Millions in abstract poverty and the country has a nuclear weapon and space programme. It built the fission bomb in the 70's but it still hasn't got a universal sanitation system in 2018.
@@dj_dazzy just as beacon of human equality has failed to have a women president of country even in 2019 . But yeah,,,,we gotta God given right to pontificate everyone .
Tell us how well the Indian moon lander mission went? FYI, it crashed. So much money and talent wasted. Go back and work on bringing the entire country forward first with sanitation and a reliable electric supply, then worry about space. No slums, no caste discrimination. America isn't perfect, but when we went to the moon, everyone had basic sanitation and electric service first.
@@SweetBearCub Firstly you don't have to give an FYI, I am Indian. Yes, our lander crashed in 1st attempt. America failed 4 times and succeeded in the 5th one. You think it was not a waste of money and talent? Let's talk about sanitation & electric supply, So you are one of those who watch the biased mainstream media. What is the population of America - 300 million, India's population - 1.3 billion. We are the world's largest democracy. Do you even have any idea how difficult is it to govern this population? You are comparing America which was built by immigrants and has a history of fewer than 300 years to one of the oldest civilizations in this world. Let's not even discuss what happened to the native American Indians and ongoing racial discrimination. My point is every country has its own problems, rather than ill talking we should appreciate & encourage each other for a better future. FYI Anyone can point out problems but the one who gives solutions stands out.
Space Shuttle was an interesting spaceship idea and all that but we never should of traded in the whole Saturn V Apollo program concept over it. We were really on to something so awesome that kept proving success reliability again and again. I shudder to think what sort of Rocketship we'd have today, how far it could go, what it could do had we kept on going with Apollo Saturn V concepts. We never should have let it lapse into obscurity.
As a reliability engineer it is easy to identify failure modes and predict the chance of them occurring. The hard to almost impossible task is getting management to believe you.
gooooooodd who the fucking CARES? the guy mispronounced it so what . Fuck it ppl focus on such idiot things. Be thankful for the high quality content u got at $0 dollars dumbass
@@hisheighnessthesupremebeing when I have a total of 100 kilos of alunemun I bring it to the scrapper and receive 137 euro s for it. I also save kupper and yron.
39:32 That is nonsense... If NASA cared so deeply about safety the tragedies of the Challenger and Columbia would never have happened. I agree that space exploration is the next step in the human journey (if not the bottom of the sea), but there should be a sense of responsibility for the lives lost and not "hope" that it is forgotten.
@@anasapsana824 True and I get what you're saying, but why invest in it at all if the idea of reaching something unattainable is far beyond the norm and with little return on investment
@@anasapsana824 But then you see, when the space program was developed in Russia, the motivation was political (this was at the height of the cold war) and not scientific. Same as with the Americans, however, as time progressed this became less of a war issue but as a scientific endeavour. There's no money in science and the only way Nasa could make back the money invested on the Space program was having the shuttle program. Which in the end proved more costly than necessary
Bullshit. The Shuttle was designed as an orbital vehicle. It did what it was supposed to do. We lost 2 crews but both were preventable with good decision making and a contingency for rescue.
0:15 "For the first time in its history, America could no longer put a man in space" What? I don't remember the manned space missions of the 19th century.
I once worked with an older woman, in Texas, that worked on the boosters, and O rings for the company that manufactured them... I was younger, and not thinking, asked her "do you think there was something your team and co-workers could've done to stop the Challenger thing from happening?" She gave me a look that made me realize what I had said... And she responded, "Everyday." I was at home later... And I cried.
What made the shuttle junk was the need to farm out it's design & construction to different states, so each state could get a cut of the money and jobs. Which is the problem with a lot of US aerospace vehicles.
Absolutely, dude Apart from the predictability of the O-Ring fail (they were warned) the reason they HAD O-rings was because it was built SO far out of State it had to be built in multiple sections...
"The Americans have beaten the Russians in the space race." You mean "The moon race". Russia was pretty much first in everything else regarding to what you would call a space race.
was it a race to the moon ? cos the russians where not interest in moon landing that period, so the americans won a race in witch they where racing alone
The shuttle was my early childhood and it’s now become my history. The shuttle has mix reviews but damn it it’s still is the most iconic spacecraft that even now is still more iconic than even SpaceX starship. Like when people think of rockets they either think of falcon 9, Saturn v, but mainly the space shuttle. With the power of three RS-25s and two boosters it’s powerful and strong as 24 jumbo jets it’s mine boggling that it inspired everything. It even got me into going to be an engineer. Like it’s amazing and… I’ve got to seen 2 of these machine in person, once you get to see it, you can’t believe that this simple and sometimes dangerous spacecraft completely revolutionized how Spaceflight now runs and how it got us where we are. SpaceX falcon 9, starship, the Boeing X-37, and Dreamchaser… they were all inspired by the shuttle. Without shuttle we would of been WAYYYY behind in the space industry and we wouldn’t even have the ISS. so folks let’s all thank enterprise, columbia, challenger, discovery, atlantis, and finally endeavour for making our Spaceflight possible.
Oh, and a word to Google - STOP THE AMBUSH ADS!! Much as I really admire Chris Hadfield and wish him every success in his new venture, I was totally sick and tired of the no warning interruptions. You want to put off potential subscribers to Chris Hadfield's course, keep on doing what you're doing, Google!!
Discovery...... not Atlantis had flown 149 million miles (238 million km) in 39 missions, completed 5,830 orbits, and spent 365 days in orbit over 27 years. Discovery flew more flights than any other Orbiter Shuttle, including four in 1985 alone. Discovery flew all three "return to flight" missions after the Challenger and Columbia disasters. thats a ship worth flying in
I grew up a few miles south from the Cape. It was awesome to see the shuttle on top of the B747 when it returned home flying along the beach. Such great memories.
In spite of all of this, I don't belief the idea of the Space shuttle is forever dead. If we take our time and never let our guard down, I think the Space shuttle has a future.
I grew up watching the space shuttle program. I always felt kinda cheated to have been born in the sixties and not being able to remember the Apollo program. But then I always felt like I made up for it to have seen the shuttle program from beginning to end. I just loved it.
Gene is the man. Met him at JSC back in 2011 in the Apollo control room. He posed with us in an Apollo 13 re-enactment tribute photo. He told us some great stories of the ways of the control room during a mission.
We'll be too busy attending government-mandated Black Lives Matter Sensitivity Classes to explore space ever again. What's the word for "space" in Chinese?
@@blankblank9042 lets hope you are wrong my friend - and if you are wrong it'll be thanks to Elon more than anyone else! "Space Race" should have nothing to do with 'Race'.....everyone is welcome in the ultimate meritocracy - if they have merit. To ensure that, I personally recommend a straight-line R vote in November.
Whilst the concept for a reusable "space truck" or shuttle might have been brilliant, the sad reality is that NASA's budget was decimated after the Apollo program that the space shuttle design was so badly compromised due to cost, it ultimately failed to achieve its original goals and needlessly cost the lives of fourteen astronauts.
I'd tend to agree, except that the STS program had it's own separate funding, that was infamously cut in half by a Nixon led administration that secretly wanted the program scrapped but didn't want to be seen doing so publicly.
Mmm, i think it has another reason... They shifted their resources from the concept of a "spacebus"/taking mankind into space to "orbital warfare/surveillance". The concepts they used to put most of their resources in are now in the hands of the independent sector, companies like that of Musk.
Prof. Phillips> Yes that too, which of course led to the Soviets figuring out exactly what the latest shuttle design was also being asked to do, hence the Buran being developed. And despite the opinions of many, I'd say the Buran shuttle was an entirely successful program even if it only flew the one time.
For now and forever, if you build something like the Hubble, YOU BUILD IT SO IT CAN BE REPAIRED, as if the thing to be repairs was MEANT to be repaired. This goes for anything on the Moon, on Mars, in orbit, anywhere. Never again build something that can't be repaired.
We still don't know that DM-2 ship and crew can land safely. That's yet to be proven. Once it's proven, I expect that the Crew Dragon system will be fully certified as crew-capable.
Love the Space shuttle but being strapped to a fuel tank and boosters made her dangerous during launch. Having the crew module above the tank, boosters increases survivability. But still her versatility was unmatched
That silly beer is still being held. Comparing the Shuttle to Dragon or upcoming Starliner is not valid. The Shuttle was far bigger, more versatile and independent
The space shuttle was often used as an example of why you shouldn't even attempt to make something reusable. But one failed experiment does not invalidate the greater goal. If that was the case, we'd never have had the light bulb. - *ELON MUSK*
i've always wanted to know how you could possibly know what went wrong in an incident like this , where after the "crash" everything is literally torn apart , pretty amazing
Nothing inherently wrong with the shuttle, just the way it was configured for takeoff, and the materials used were not updated. We needed a next get shuttle, and we had it but it was cancelled... It was called Venture Star, and all of the major problems were solved the same month it was cancelled. It would have fixed all the main issues that the shuttle had, and left room for improvement, while providing large scale delivery via SSTO to LEO and beyond. the real problem is that our stupid politicians keep cancelling the projects every 4 years or so.. pathetic... we need to select them from the ranks of astronauts, or flight test directors, instead of from actors, and reality show stars..
so the main specific problems with the shuttle/orbiter, were: the configuration (allowing pieces of debris from the main tank to hit the orbiter during ascent) the delicate heat shielding ( a better system was developed for Venture Star) fuel tank failures due to temperature( This one was the fault of the Nasa management from allowing it to fly in too cold of environment, but was also solved by venture star, by the use of composite tanks, now to be used on virtually all space vehicles in the future, such as BFR) Public stupidity ( not understanding the real problems led to opposition to the program that was to fix those faults, and give us the shuttle we needed.) We will now have to wait for BFR, and hope that the limiting factor is not the public demanding that it be outlawed, as soon as it has it's first issue.
KW Awards - That;s a little shortsighted - rocket development has ALWAYS been highly dangerous, numerous deaths & explosions on our way to the stars (eg the Apollo 1 test) 1 - The first 'accident' was TOTALLY avoidable One of the Thiokol Engineers on the pre-laucnch conference call INSISTED this would happen - yet NAS's brass decived and stonewalled until Feynman's investigation 2 - the second happened to the oldest ship in the fleet, and could, I believe, had been avoided if the astronauts had permission for an EVA (spacewalk) to go outside and inspect. Space is never going to be easy, OR completely safe. Just lets not make stupid decisions, like managers ho think they can wish away the laws of physics - THAT's the real problem
The shuttle was not a failure. Thanks to it, we have the ISS, the Hubble telescope and a clearer idea of how to build a truly reusable spaceship. Future space projects like those of Space X or the Skylon Spaceplane (Alan Bond, Reaction Engines) will build upon that knowledge.
If the schoolchildren watching were expecting a lesson for life, they sure got it. A modern industrialised country used rubber way outside of its operating temperature. And they knew from operational environments that it did not work outside the range. And it caused failure.
Simonmoty If you listen to what Kranz says, starting at 15:00 "the first time you flew it, is the first time you flew it . . . high risk high return" These guys at NASA have balls the size of the Florida Keys, engineers, management, flight crew the lot of them. Problem is the political swamp critters in Washington lack any backbone for commitments beyond their short term in office. NASA engineers risk their whole life's career on the success of the project, that is commitment.
If the shuttle did not exist your world is not the same as now. Gps navigation, satalitte tv would not be that common and would cost a lots more. that just 2 of many product you are using. so all those want to shit on the space shuttle program you a fucking idiot
I just have to add that @ 19:17 I am sure that the guy with the white hat and binoculars is "John Travolta", give a thumbs up if so do you! I could be the first to notice this fascinating account!
Please fire the person who wrote the first 20 seconds of the script since he or she clearly isn't proficient enough to use the English language in a sensible manner… The way the narrator puts it make it sound like America has been putting people into space since 1776... 1. Is it possible for a designated piece of landmass to do anything at all? I thought it was the government of the United States of America that made it happen…. 2. I didn't know they had the capacity in the 1700's to accomplish such a feat… (btw… my native tounge isn't even English)
This is so dear to my heart. I lost two of my neighbors in the Challenger disaster and a dear friend from Texas Tech in Columbia but our dear friend Jeff Williams gave us the opportunity to see his first flight up to space and I can say I had an astronaut at my wedding. I’m over the moon that we are back on US soil for launches.
Wow, I know how near and dear this is to my heart so I can't even imagine how big of a deal this must be for you!! Thank you for sharing your story and it's so great reading comments like yours! I literally watch the entire broadcast of the crew demo to Mission, I went to sleep when they did, but can only sleep a handful of hours. You look at all the chaos going on and then you see the greatness of people uniting to make something amazing happen like crew dragon and all the people that were watching from around the world and it gives me hope in humanity because there's so many great things we have and can't achieve and I hope to see many more of those wonderful things in my lifetime, your lifetime and those whose heart these things touch! I hope this came across clearly, I'm using voice to text and I have a lot on my mind so hopefully there typos like don't didn't get turned into do or something 😊 hope you have an amazing and wonderful week, month year life and I'm sure you'll always be rooting for space, I know I will :-) take care and thanks again for sharing such a heartfelt and inspiring story, it really triggered a lot of thoughts and emotions as I was reading it!
DME EMD thank you for those kind words. My kids tell me I’m obsessed with it now and honestly I am bc the US is back in business for our space program which is awesome. I’m waiting for them to return to see how it compares to the shuttle coming back into reentry. It was interesting to hear them talk about the differences going up into space. I also hope that the kids of the future will want to make a goal to be sn astronaut. They really are the future of America today.
When Bob and Doug come back from demo mission 2 don't be surprised if you see interest in science start to explode in this country especially aerospace engineering as well as interest in commercial space flight., not to mention becoming an astronaut. I grew up during Gemini Apollo shuttle and now crew dragon it has been one hell of a journey. Let the journey continue with a new generation carrying the torch from shuttle to Artemis to Mars
Arnold Sherrill I completely agree!!!!
RIP to the 14 astronauts killed in the Challenger and Columbia disasters. Press F to pay respects.
The Shuttle program is something humanity should be proud of; a beautiful, wondrous machine which achieved the unimaginable.
If you’re here to find out why the shuttle was discontinued, start at 1:07:23
Hehee
thank you
Or let GOD'S WORD tell you
Daniel 7:4 it's wings where plucked off !! Listen to 18:30 of this video it's like Daniel is speaking through that astronaut !! Falcon heavy is the 4th beast john seen destroy the sky / earth in REV ( the Dragon gives power to the BEAST ) ( ISS )that gives false image the world worships 🌎
@@thomasmorgan283 fuck you bot
Thomas Morgan take your insanity elsewhere
Finally, 45 minutes ago, as of this comment, Doug Hurley and Bob Benkhen are now above the Earth, in the first US spacecraft to take off with a crew in 9 years.
And they have named their Dragon capsule "Endeavour"
Agreed!!! ...and are now currently docked and inside the ISS! Of the (just under - they ended up slightly ahead of schedule) 19 hours they took to get to the ISS, I slept for about..well just a tad less than they did, lol, couldn't really sleep and also couldn't stop watching the coverage, especially as the capsule (quite literally) inched closer and closer to the station... absolutely amazing and epic! I wish it would have flown over where I lived, it would have been absolutely amazing to see the ISS with crew Dragon behind it. I did get to see, on accident, the ISS with the space shuttle trailing behind it once, that was a really special moment!
The Beginning of an new Era : the race to Mars
When SpaceX started I had my doubts, I'm glad I was wrong. Still have my doubts about mars though.
That's exactly why I came here.
No matter how may times I watch challenger explode, it still gets me every single time. Im not even American, but i can feel the enormous pit in my stomach. RIP challenger crew.
Worst part is the crowd thought that it was meant to happen you can hear them cheering until they realise even the parents of the teacher were cheering
@Zach Moffatt I think those wear screams of terror and shock. Surely those people watched other sts mission and saw what was supposed to happen
To be pedantic the big fuel tank explodes. Challenger breaks up into pieces. It’s a very tough watch either way I agree with you.
@Micolash there’s always that one person
But it just annoys me knowing that they could have prevented the whole accident
No mention of the Thiokol engineers who warned that the O rings could fail before the Challenger launch.
T B. No, they died in 1986 you stupid f..k.
+T B. HOLLY CRAP you an idiot or what you get info the challenger crew alive from conspiracy website they just show similar looking photo and you fall fall it, get real evidence this been debunk long ago and it so old. no one use it anymore.
www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1986/02/26/thiokol-engineers-tell-of-being-overruled/3627b12c-e28f-4461-b20e-ca4e21be144c/?noredirect=on&.60bbc7dcb67e
The team of engineers at Thiokol who had designed the O rings had warned that they could fail at low temperatures. Rubber goes hard with the cold and cannot expand and settle in its groove with the pressure and seal said groove, as Richard Feinman demonstrated in the enquiry. The chief engineer who raised the alarm (and ignored by management) was later fired. He never found another job in the aerospace industry. As an engineer, I have often had clashes with managers with no scientific background, who have no idea of how inflexible the laws of physics are. You cannot bribe nature to modify the laws of physics to suit your financial interests. Period.
Paul Makinson: Good comment, some pretty smart people at M.T were not taken seriously. Did they figure out who made the final decision at NASA ?.
EDIT: I didn't know Feynman was involved in the inquest..this a typical Feynman comment from the Wiki entry on the disaster enquiry. .. "It would appear that, for whatever purpose, be it for internal or external consumption, the management of NASA exaggerates the reliability of its product, to the point of fantasy" ..... I personally am not smart enough to argue a scientific point with Feynman, doubt anyone at NASA were either.. his explanations were always beautifully simplistic.
1:06:02 "17 years after the challenger disaster"
Checks date: 2020, 17 years after the Columbia disaster
*Nervous sweating*
Now that you mentioned it. 2020 is a year full of disaster.
@@himitsu9848 see, you get it
@@himitsu9848 more like 2020 is the disaster
True but without risk we never move forward. Every industry has had its risk crossing the oceans to come to America was a risk. The first airplane and car we’re definitely a risk. We will move forward.
Like pennywise, it comes after 17 years
When the first Columbia flight, NASA still concerned. They panicked when some of the tiles were missing. When it landed safely, it turn out to be the start of NASA's normalization of deviance.
Which should have ended after Challenger exploded.
Despite the tragedies, the shuttle was an amazing project, this is an excellent synopsis of the program. A great engineering feat into the unknown. I have huge admiration for all involved. Well done USA and NASA.
Sad to think in my lifetime both the shuttle and concorde have been killed off. RIP to two of mankind's proudest inventions.
The shuttle was a disaster it cost way too much per launch for what it was intended to do
@Nicholas Ennos The shuttle still need a engine to fly/glide. It would be stupid to have it without an engine for re entry. 747 use for transport the shuttle you idiot, what about all those shuttle launch with rocket and booster tank attach to them? are you ignore fact?
@@jetli740 An engine for re-entry? Nope...
yeah NOPE. Space Shuttle killed astronauts in two separate missions.
:) yes RIP ...
Would be nice if they could spend less on war and more on space exploration. But I guess that would be pushing our luck.
Kill our leaders and raise us better. Problem solved ;)
@frank brown
HELL YEAH! WAKE UP SHEEPLES!! POWER TO THA PEOPLE!!
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Bankers make profit from Wars .
we have advanced technology and space programs that are done in secret thats why "they" the government doesnt fund it anymore. but "they've" been trying to hold the industrial military complex to account since the days of Eisenhower and bring these things forwards, but it is a national security issue unleashing advanced systems to the public domain. instead we get the benefits of it like silicon chips, fibre optics, exponential growth in computer technology etc - many years after the r&d actually allowed for these things to be manufactured. but energy technologies are a big no for a myriad of reasons.
The corporations which run American wont give their permission to let logic rule.
What they fail to say is the engineers before launch said this would happen because it was to cold. The engineers asked them to stop the launch and where ignored.
they didnt even needed to point that out. the solid rocket booster didnt have a "go" below zero degrees celsius. thiokol gave them no guarantee under those circumstances.
Again, naive and BAD MANAGEMENT.
Asked them to scrub launch, where you hear that? I thought they got sidetracked into the wrong possible issue due to the weather.
47:07 Admit to knowing failure was possible or probable and would depend on backup O-ring
42:14 "Obviously a major malfunction" -- That's the understatement of the 20th century
official language.
Yes , I thought that as well but that PAO was in a tight spot and he did really well . The most striking comment was heard on the controllers loop - "RSO reports vehicle exploded".
Let me challenge that: "it appears as though something has happened in the motorcade route".
Its the intro of the XO song by Beyonce
Correction: That's the understatement of 2020
Now USA using Russian Rockets but also putting Sanctions on Russia. strange world
There are no boundaries in science, but in politics...
Yes you'd gets even more bizarre years and years and years and years the United States said that they have the most efficient engine that seems not to be the case the Russian Federation has those engines and they had them already four years and years and years and now the United States needs the Russians to bring them into outer space it's so funny how things change
The sanctions have concrete reasons and Russian get rid of them easily. Ukrainian Crimea became a Putin's fetish.
Not anymore
Great comment, shut up! Makes alot of sense, you are very unreasonable.
The problem was with challenger that the rocket booster engineer roger knew that discovery was close to disaster and tried to stop the challenger mission 24 hours before it took off..... no one listened to him, he literally screamed at the people in charge in a meeting room to tell them not to launch.
1 out of the 2 major accidents, the challenger mission, wasn’t a fault of the shuttle, it was the fault of the higher ups IGNORING engineers BEGGING them to not launch.
''Everybody expected it to be safe'' that's just stupidity.
Ditto. Every frontier will present its challenges.
Who’s here after the SUCCESSFUL launch of Elon Musks SpaceX FALCON DRAGON
One more space fan from Alabama. Go Crew Dragon!!
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FALCON 🐉
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After such a long time, when I'm watching the space shuttle launching, I still hold my breath. The gigantic flame ball, dangerously beautiful!
I always wonder how unsafe shuttles were built. The huge cabin easy to destroy, no protection for the crew, no emergency systems at all. The 1966 Soyuz has very effective emergency system for ascending, saving numerous lives and almost bulletproof landing cabin not failing after early 70s.
It is the workmanship, honey. 737 MAX affair disclosed major problems with design and manufacturing quality at Boeing. It seems Boeing is becoming too old to compete. Its days of glory are gone and I assume they have not only too many highly paid executives but also are unable to attract high level technical personnel who instead goes to Space X, Virgin Space etc.
But how many soyuz' have been destroyed and the Russians dot say anything. They're not the type to tell the world they've had a failure with loss of life
Jack Benton software fix was due to inability to hang bigger engines on the aircraft due to lack of adequate clearance. This was a workaround making design more cluttered. Investigation after the accident indicated that there were workmanship issues on the assembly line (wiring). While I wish Boeing all the best, their Starliner was not able to reach LEO. Musk and his Crew DRAGON ride to ISS made Boeing design obsolete. In comparison to Space X, Boeing has too many hands off highly (over)paid executives. I’ve seen that first hand on while FCS program
@@floydmaster1973 that's exactly what I was gonna comment who knows how many the Russians have actually lost.
Jack Benton I’m glad they fixed software and restarted production. Boeing stock went up to Over $205 per share on Friday. Hope it continues. But Space X outclassed Boeing anyway. They docked Crew Dragon to ISS, Boeing was unable to reach LEO.
"When I first saw the space shuttle, I thought 'there is no way anything this big is getting off the planet"
The Saturn V rocket is gonna blow your mind.
Saturn V was glorious. Wonder how they even did it.
watching this after watching the crew dragon today... man the shuttle was a beast. falcon and dragon are so sleek and futuristic looking by comparison. judging engineering by how future-ish it looks is absurd. but still :-). falcon sure looks awesome.
Much more experience building ancient capsules, shuttle was new concept (old idea) functionality rather than the best looks, that would come later. LM tried to engineer their own shuttle and failed miserably. Given only a shoestring budget, MD's shuttle passed from the beginning and the engineering for improvement continued until LM forced a takeover. Then all progress came to a grinding halt. Rather then hand LM everything on a silver platter? MD's hard earned tech? Mobster Aerospace. Now in charge. Actually shuttle is very attractive if you look at it. This is the Thank You given to the American Company for winning the space race to the moon when no one else could. Railroaded out of business. Wavy hand salute.
@The foam Farmer yes sir, i understand that. wasnt trying to disparage the shuttle, im super sad it ended. the shuttle , good or bad, was the worlds only real space ship ever. Not a pod or flying garbage can that can crash land but an actual space plane(/glider). was just generally commenting on the size :-).
Yeah, my mom and brother went to watch the Falcon Heavy 2 lift off! They got to sit in the VIP area and sat (NO JOKE)like yards away from Elon Musk and the Space-x Crew!!!
The biggest fundamental problem with space exploraratiom was makimg it compatition in the first plave. Should have been a global efftort. We'd have been to Mars by now. What do I know. I'm dru.k.
It’s cool seeing a crew capsule with a touch screen lol
ITS NOT REUSABLE IT IS REFURBISHABLE
Alright, Tim Dodd, chill
That’s reusable then yea lol
Brad Kells no
It is refurbishable
Spacex's rockets are reusable.
The claim that "friction" causes re entry high temperatures is nonsense. The real reason is compression of the air which cannot move out of the way. The compression effect is the same one that increases the temperature of air in the cylinder of a diesel engines enabling spontaneous combustion of fuel as it is injected.
Fair enough, though "friction" is the quickie version that people understand
We should probably stop saying it...
Your claim is the same of friction, the compressed air is just the the thing that the shuttle is having coalition with, its the friction of the shuttle and the compressed air..
@@rogerstorrs8679 "Friction" is a lot easier to understand than shock waves, even though they're two different things haha
Friction is caused by compressed air. So it’s not wrong to say that
Friction is still a factor
Even after so much collaboration and establishing an 'International' space station, some people think of space in just American point of view! No country can operate cost effective space programs individually anymore without putting burden on the taxpayers. Collaboration is the way. Space programs should be for the betterment of entire human race. Not just for showing off.
Sorry what did you say how many years was there Space Station Mir yes exactly that was from one country
@@AndreStapert It had visitors from several countries, and international experiments, too. During its life, the US and Russian human spaceflight programmes were effectively merged.
Wow. The first flight of Columbia had missing panels on the heat shield and the reason for the destruction of it years later was because of missing panels after damage...eerie to say the least.
The destruction wasn't because of missing panels. It was because of a 12" diameter hole in the aluminum wing. The heat of reentry entered the hole in the wing and caused it to fall off.
One of the greatest achievements in the march of space exploration. Hubble repairs were amazing. ISS was only possible because of shuttle. What an effort. The US must be back there.
-> Falcon 9. Does the same, can carry bigger payload.
WRONG! Space Station Mir only used it once in construction, so the ISS would have been possible without. Hubble would have been another project as was necessary.
The shuttle was just a handy tool, not the reason why.
Hubble and the ISS are both useless expensive toys. Bring 'em down and turn 'em into scrap metal.
1986 I was 19 year's old and I'll never forget that day never! I remember that day it was a bright sunny day with blue sky's and the whole day was just beyond quiet in Alhambra CA! It was eerie and haunting! Much love and respect to the families that lost love ones that day! Much love and respect from pasadena ca!
I watched enthralled at the age of 9 as NASA first sent men to walk on the moon and have never lost my sense of wonder at man's ingenuity and courage. Only a couple of centuries ago we didn't know what electricity was and now look. This is only a temporary hiatus, humans are far too curious just to let it go.
NASA first sent men to walk on the moon!!!!.......a very big lie for stupids
glad to see you're correct, we're back now :)
The space shuttle that flew was a massive departure from its original intent. Following Apollo, NASA had some truly grand plans. Had NASA been given what they wanted, we would long ago have put footprints on Mars, assuming the technical challenges could've been overcome. But those plans didn't match the political reality of the time. Nixon cancelled plans for a space station and cancelled the Saturn V but wanted a reusable spacecraft that landed like an airplane. NASA had money for a spacecraft but nothing for it to actually do. So, NASA tried their best to make the Shuttle all things to all people. The DOD decided they wanted something that could launch from the west coast, deploy a satellite in a polar orbit, and land after a single orbit. In fact a launch facility, which was never used, was build at Vandenberg AFB. Congress wanted something that was commercially viable. The scientific community wanted a research platform. The end result was a vehicle that was incredibly complex and expensive.
Complex. expensive, and dangerous. It killed 14 people in two disasters.
@@JimMac23 Thank the politicians you voted for.
RIP Challenger and Columbus.
*Columbia
too many politicians, that's what's wrong in this world
Well... overpopulation syndrome.
Politicians are mere a reflection of a populous who voted them in.
@Tony Wilson *cough* donald trump
Waste of life and time dealing with these bs who only wanna get their own interest. Go to hell after life
The problem isn't that there are too many. The issue is there are too many bad ones.
Why seem some of the astronauts be so focused on nationality? From my experience with science, scientists are usually more passionate about the research, about the goal, pushing the frontier of human understanding, but they usually don't care much about nationality...
I am a child of the cold war. Remember Mercury, Gemini, then Apollo and the mood landing. Even after the 1st moon landing, it never got old for me. I am in my 60s and I still get excited watching our Astronauts go to space. Totally Amazing.
Without the shuttle program we wouldn't have the Hubble Telescope and the International Spacestation.
Probably would. Space Station Mir only used the Shuttle once for construction.
@@tomtalk24 And heck, Mir didn’t do that bad at all. There are huge rockets easily able to get something up there
Sad to think in my lifetime both the shuttle and concorde have been killed off. RIP to two of mankind's proudest inventions.
@@amool7rb915 Proudest? Saturn V- I mean what?
Oddly w/o the cold war we prolly wouldn't have any of it.. At least not yet..
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
Frank Zappa
Looks like we found the source of Dark Energy.
Dark energy is what disappears tax payer funds
+nayanmalig You an idiot, so you think Nasa waste money by go to space? You read to many conspiracy, have you read about what they invented/involment that you use every day?
+frank brown dont need good spelling to debunk the bullshit you believe in.
@@jetli740
Pls stf... Its a common fact that every new piece of tech almost all the time was invented for millitary purposes. Thats not a conspiracy theory but a fact. And yes the spaceshuttle was obsolete thus a waste of tax payers money.
Nuclear power, the internet, spaceshuttles... the list goes on and on.
The heat of reentry is not due to friction. The heat is a result of the compression of the gas in front of the space shuttle. The gas can’t move out of the way quickly enough and so compresses and heats up.
Oliver Foggin well said. I had the same reaction as you and came here to comment.
The beauty of the internet and our inclusive culture I can be right too. Now that's friction too.
I would call that friction
Brad Kells then you would be wrong. It is compression of the gas that causes heat. Not friction.
The Atlantis Space shuttle was such an incredible pioneering spacecraft.
All of them were. LM & Boink (like POTUS) will eliminate rather than accept 2nd fiddle to any facts.
A pioneering spirit, including space exploration, is key to human endeavor and discovery.
Our world progression, indeed survivability, is dependent upon a consensus of inquiring minds.Tis true that two heads (or more) is better than one.
Atlantis was my favourite out of the lot. I’m so glad that it got to fly the last mission.
And now all of the dangerous old dinosaur shuttles are in museums. After killing 14 people.
Ironically, on this day and time, when the Challenger exploded, I was in my Astronomy class planetarium in highschool. My teacher left the room to watch the launch, just minutes later to tell us the shuttle had exploded; it was as if he was in shock and then dismissed our class. This tragedy still haunts me to this day. It never should have happened,especially to this beautifully-talented and diverse crew. Excellent audio and video production btw. May the hands of God be with the crew as with us on earth. Thank you for sharing.
So confident that the suttle was the safest of the safest space vehicule ... they didn't even put a crew safety system in case of problem. If there was some kind of protected parachutes system on the crew compartiment implemented during the vehicule conception, some of the Challenger crew members would have survived the accident.
Parachutes were not in the crew cabin because it was never intended to be separated from the orbiter, plus if you eject you may find yourself in the fiery exhaust from the SRBs which is also bad, basically from the moment of SRB ignition to separation(first 2 minutes of flight) if something goes wrong your fucked if it can’t wait until SRB separation.
@@Oklahomarailfan.
Still far better chances than exploding alongside the main tank and then free falling from an hight altitude. Usually finger-crossing is the worst safety mesure.
@@cottoncatt1186 doesn’t change the fact that they were never going to put parachutes on the crew cabin since it was NEVER intended to leave the orbiter and would just add extra weight. On the first few flights of the shuttle (Columbia) it had 2 ejection seats on the flight deck for its 2 person crew on the test flights, though they had height restrictions and were the only abort mode possible before SRB separation. after the test flights and flight crew increased to 7, they removed the ejection seats because it couldn’t save all the crew. I do believe the space shuttle had the potential to be safe if it had been properly funded and politicians left the design to the engineers.
@@Oklahomarailfan. The parachutes should have been on the outside of the crew cabin, not inside of it.
The Challenger crew didn't die in the explosion, they died when their intact crew capsule impacted the ocean at 200mph. The proposed launch escape system most likely would have saved their lives.
Then why wasn't it built?
FAIL is the wrong word. The shuttle has changed all our lives for the better.
It failed to be the money-saving spacecraft it was intended to be.
And it failed because spending the same amount of $ on less expensive conventional rockets would have boosted the space exploration and technologies way more than the shuttles did.
Dude, if the US is dependent on Russian technology to go to space nowadays, it's only because of the space shuttle program. It was a money-pit and a death trap that never came close to achieve its initial goals : a reliable, reusable & cost-controlled spacecraft. FAIL is not the wrong word actually, it is an understatement.
It failed at being cost effective sure but it succeeded in other ways to say it failed isn't entirely accurate
It was an expensive dangerous failure which killed 14 people. What's left of the old dinosaurs is in museums. And a good thing too.
1:10:15 India did it, Mangalyaan - India's mars probe which is currently in mars orbit collecting scientific data and we did it in 10 times less cost as compared to America's Maven . Just a comparison not ill talking so haters please show your hate elsewhere . I am pro science and humanity !
Yes, India is a great example of humanity. Millions in abstract poverty and the country has a nuclear weapon and space programme. It built the fission bomb in the 70's but it still hasn't got a universal sanitation system in 2018.
@@dj_dazzy just as beacon of human equality has failed to have a women president of country even in 2019 . But yeah,,,,we gotta God given right to pontificate everyone .
Tell us how well the Indian moon lander mission went? FYI, it crashed. So much money and talent wasted. Go back and work on bringing the entire country forward first with sanitation and a reliable electric supply, then worry about space. No slums, no caste discrimination. America isn't perfect, but when we went to the moon, everyone had basic sanitation and electric service first.
@@SweetBearCub Firstly you don't have to give an FYI, I am Indian. Yes, our lander crashed in 1st attempt. America failed 4 times and succeeded in the 5th one. You think it was not a waste of money and talent? Let's talk about sanitation & electric supply, So you are one of those who watch the biased mainstream media. What is the population of America - 300 million, India's population - 1.3 billion. We are the world's largest democracy. Do you even have any idea how difficult is it to govern this population? You are comparing America which was built by immigrants and has a history of fewer than 300 years to one of the oldest civilizations in this world. Let's not even discuss what happened to the native American Indians and ongoing racial discrimination. My point is every country has its own problems, rather than ill talking we should appreciate & encourage each other for a better future. FYI Anyone can point out problems but the one who gives solutions stands out.
Space Shuttle was an interesting spaceship idea and all that but we never should of traded in the whole Saturn V Apollo program concept over it. We were really on to something so awesome that kept proving success reliability again and again. I shudder to think what sort of Rocketship we'd have today, how far it could go, what it could do had we kept on going with Apollo Saturn V concepts. We never should have let it lapse into obscurity.
As a reliability engineer it is easy to identify failure modes and predict the chance of them occurring. The hard to almost impossible task is getting management to believe you.
8:45 "alunemun" new space material
According to the expert perfect for spacecrafts... 👀
gooooooodd who the fucking CARES? the guy mispronounced it so what . Fuck it ppl focus on such idiot things. Be thankful for the high quality content u got at $0 dollars dumbass
@@SAINT01 , I care
Apparently the real reason the space shuttle was retired was because they couldn't find any alunemun to repair it with
@@hisheighnessthesupremebeing when I have a total of 100 kilos of alunemun I bring it to the scrapper and receive 137 euro s for it. I also save kupper and yron.
39:32 That is nonsense... If NASA cared so deeply about safety the tragedies of the Challenger and Columbia would never have happened. I agree that space exploration is the next step in the human journey (if not the bottom of the sea), but there should be a sense of responsibility for the lives lost and not "hope" that it is forgotten.
Hmmm the dreams about outspace are for the astronauts, the dreams to make it worth investition are for the administration 🙋🏻♀️
@@anasapsana824 True and I get what you're saying, but why invest in it at all if the idea of reaching something unattainable is far beyond the norm and with little return on investment
@@fodicky4 In Russia there was no idea to get back money invested in spacecraft at the moment, but the risks were not less
@@anasapsana824 But then you see, when the space program was developed in Russia, the motivation was political (this was at the height of the cold war) and not scientific. Same as with the Americans, however, as time progressed this became less of a war issue but as a scientific endeavour. There's no money in science and the only way Nasa could make back the money invested on the Space program was having the shuttle program. Which in the end proved more costly than necessary
How irony it is. The shuttle never fails, It was the other system. SRBs,Foam.... The shuttle itself never failed.
Watching from Kerala 🇮🇳 India
Went in circles for thirty years,
After the peak of going to the moon we threw it all away
Bullshit. The Shuttle was designed as an orbital vehicle. It did what it was supposed to do. We lost 2 crews but both were preventable with good decision making and a contingency for rescue.
The shuttle was an expensive dangerous failure. And now the dinosaurs are on view in space museums. Dinosaurs that killed 14 people.
Cite: "For the first time in it's history America can no longer put a man into space". King George III will be very disappointed when he hears this
Sometimes I forget how cool being human is :P
0:15 "For the first time in its history, America could no longer put a man in space"
What? I don't remember the manned space missions of the 19th century.
I once worked with an older woman, in Texas, that worked on the boosters, and O rings for the company that manufactured them... I was younger, and not thinking, asked her "do you think there was something your team and co-workers could've done to stop the Challenger thing from happening?" She gave me a look that made me realize what I had said... And she responded, "Everyday." I was at home later... And I cried.
Came after spacex launch ✔️
What made the shuttle junk was the need to farm out it's design & construction to different states, so each state could get a cut of the money and jobs. Which is the problem with a lot of US aerospace vehicles.
Absolutely, dude
Apart from the predictability of the O-Ring fail (they were warned) the reason they HAD O-rings was because it was built SO far out of State it had to be built in multiple sections...
The shuttle was an expensive dangerous failure.
"The Americans have beaten the Russians in the space race." You mean "The moon race". Russia was pretty much first in everything else regarding to what you would call a space race.
was it a race to the moon ? cos the russians where not interest in moon landing that period, so the americans won a race in witch they where racing alone
Sarikas Panayiotis yes they were , it’s why they built the LK lander and N1
What you get when win the race? Why u you even want to race! That's more important when u spend billions of dollars
The shuttle was my early childhood and it’s now become my history. The shuttle has mix reviews but damn it it’s still is the most iconic spacecraft that even now is still more iconic than even SpaceX starship. Like when people think of rockets they either think of falcon 9, Saturn v, but mainly the space shuttle. With the power of three RS-25s and two boosters it’s powerful and strong as 24 jumbo jets it’s mine boggling that it inspired everything. It even got me into going to be an engineer. Like it’s amazing and… I’ve got to seen 2 of these machine in person, once you get to see it, you can’t believe that this simple and sometimes dangerous spacecraft completely revolutionized how Spaceflight now runs and how it got us where we are. SpaceX falcon 9, starship, the Boeing X-37, and Dreamchaser… they were all inspired by the shuttle. Without shuttle we would of been WAYYYY behind in the space industry and we wouldn’t even have the ISS. so folks let’s all thank enterprise, columbia, challenger, discovery, atlantis, and finally endeavour for making our Spaceflight possible.
Oh, and a word to Google - STOP THE AMBUSH ADS!! Much as I really admire Chris Hadfield and wish him every success in his new venture, I was totally sick and tired of the no warning interruptions. You want to put off potential subscribers to Chris Hadfield's course, keep on doing what you're doing, Google!!
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Violin music: *plays*
Me: *Something's wrong I can feel it.*
Discovery...... not Atlantis had flown 149 million miles (238 million km) in 39 missions, completed 5,830 orbits, and spent 365 days in orbit over 27 years. Discovery flew more flights than any other Orbiter Shuttle, including four in 1985 alone. Discovery flew all three "return to flight" missions after the Challenger and Columbia disasters. thats a ship worth flying in
The loses are the price human's have to pay to explore on the frontiers. People died while exploring the earth.
NASA bears the cost of 17 lives in three disasters. And they were preventable. There is no comparison to "exploring the earth".
I grew up a few miles south from the Cape. It was awesome to see the shuttle on top of the B747 when it returned home flying along the beach. Such great memories.
In spite of all of this, I don't belief the idea of the Space shuttle is forever dead. If we take our time and never let our guard down, I think the Space shuttle has a future.
The Space plane Idea that the Shuttle program started can be pushed on
The space shuttle was an expensive failure that killed 14 people.
@@JimMac23Starshit has been a massive failure.
I grew up watching the space shuttle program. I always felt kinda cheated to have been born in the sixties and not being able to remember the Apollo program. But then I always felt like I made up for it to have seen the shuttle program from beginning to end. I just loved it.
There were plenty of engineers in the 60's space programs. Most of the pilots , certainly by Gemini that had engineering degrees.
"Risk is the price of progress" - Gene Krantz.
"I hope we never lose sight of that" - me
Gene is the man. Met him at JSC back in 2011 in the Apollo control room. He posed with us in an Apollo 13 re-enactment tribute photo. He told us some great stories of the ways of the control room during a mission.
We'll be too busy attending government-mandated Black Lives Matter Sensitivity Classes to explore space ever again. What's the word for "space" in Chinese?
@@blankblank9042 lets hope you are wrong my friend - and if you are wrong it'll be thanks to Elon more than anyone else!
"Space Race" should have nothing to do with 'Race'.....everyone is welcome in the ultimate meritocracy - if they have merit. To ensure that, I personally recommend a straight-line R vote in November.
@@bcdrummer1962That vote didn't turn out too well for you, did it.
And he should know. NASA lost 17 lives during the space program. Apollo 1, Challenger, and Columbia.
The shuttle program is thought to have set NASA back by 20 years in terms of development of space exploration.
It was an expensive dangerous failure.
So emotional am in tears 😢 watching this 😢 fantastic our brother and sisters across the pond in the US from UK 🇬🇧 ❤🇺🇸
I was at the Kennedy Space Center in March of 2019, and Space Shuttle Atlantis was on display in the Space Shuttle museum.
Whilst the concept for a reusable "space truck" or shuttle might have been brilliant, the sad reality is that NASA's budget was decimated after the Apollo program that the space shuttle design was so badly compromised due to cost, it ultimately failed to achieve its original goals and needlessly cost the lives of fourteen astronauts.
I'd tend to agree, except that the STS program had it's own separate funding, that was infamously cut in half by a Nixon led administration that secretly wanted the program scrapped but didn't want to be seen doing so publicly.
Mmm, i think it has another reason... They shifted their resources from the concept of a "spacebus"/taking mankind into space to "orbital warfare/surveillance".
The concepts they used to put most of their resources in are now in the hands of the independent sector, companies like that of Musk.
Prof. Phillips> Yes that too, which of course led to the Soviets figuring out exactly what the latest shuttle design was also being asked to do, hence the Buran being developed.
And despite the opinions of many, I'd say the Buran shuttle was an entirely successful program even if it only flew the one time.
@@BlueChrome
Ill look into that buran shuttle, sounds interesting. When i was younger i had a space fetish.. This vid sparked my interest again.
The space shuttle was an expensive dangerous failure that took the lives of 14 people.
For now and forever, if you build something like the Hubble, YOU BUILD IT SO IT CAN BE REPAIRED, as if the thing to be repairs was MEANT to be repaired.
This goes for anything on the Moon, on Mars, in orbit, anywhere.
Never again build something that can't be repaired.
You're forgetting about the JWST.
I remember watching Atlantis land on TV news. It was quite a news but as a kid, I didn't know it's significance. Now I do.
I worked on the external tank program in Michoud Louisiana.
That Alunumun guy still gets me
"it's made of a lunarman" WOW a new material. Appropriately named metal for visiting the moon
Tousandth comment!
I miss the Shuttle, it was impressive:(
And it was deadly. It killed 14 people.
Today Marks the day we can now go back from our own soil!
We still don't know that DM-2 ship and crew can land safely. That's yet to be proven. Once it's proven, I expect that the Crew Dragon system will be fully certified as crew-capable.
Love the Space shuttle but being strapped to a fuel tank and boosters made her dangerous during launch. Having the crew module above the tank, boosters increases survivability. But still her versatility was unmatched
The space shuttle was dangerous. Period.
Great video. Thanks for all of the brave people in the space business especially the astronauts. Go SpaceX!!
- Need more affordable reusable spacecraft
- Elon Musk: Hold my beer
That silly beer is still being held. Comparing the Shuttle to Dragon or upcoming Starliner is not valid. The Shuttle was far bigger, more versatile and independent
Ebrahim Al Theeb more like thank you nasa for all the engineering and data over the last 60 years ...now we will make it better..
No, hold my Tesla
Linda Burns If you ever get to ride in a Tesla you will be impressed 😎
@@david-joeklotz9558 You're forgetting about the Starship
The space shuttle was often used as an example of why you shouldn't even attempt to make something reusable. But one failed experiment does not invalidate the greater goal. If that was the case, we'd never have had the light bulb.
- *ELON MUSK*
A quote from creep Musk is like a quote from Ronald McDonald.
It's made out of "aluminun"? is this a new alloy or element?
That was a phenomenal film.
i've always wanted to know how you could possibly know what went wrong in an incident like this , where after the "crash" everything is literally torn apart , pretty amazing
Flight data
Risk is the price of moving forward!!
Tell that to 14 dead astronauts.
The US could not possibly afford to fund the shuttle programme AND fight wars on three ( soon to be four ) continents. Something had to go.
Gotta have those useless deadly wars!
R.I.P Challenger and Columbia!
A powerful documentary. Thank you
Thank you so very much for sharing.
Nothing inherently wrong with the shuttle, just the way it was configured for takeoff, and the materials used were not updated. We needed a next get shuttle, and we had it but it was cancelled... It was called Venture Star, and all of the major problems were solved the same month it was cancelled. It would have fixed all the main issues that the shuttle had, and left room for improvement, while providing large scale delivery via SSTO to LEO and beyond. the real problem is that our stupid politicians keep cancelling the projects every 4 years or so.. pathetic... we need to select them from the ranks of astronauts, or flight test directors, instead of from actors, and reality show stars..
LOL the engines of the shuttle "glider" was too inefficient & fuel has gone up in price
It was way too dangerous and should never have been built. 14 people lost their lives because of it.
so the main specific problems with the shuttle/orbiter, were:
the configuration (allowing pieces of debris from the main tank to hit the orbiter during ascent)
the delicate heat shielding ( a better system was developed for Venture Star)
fuel tank failures due to temperature( This one was the fault of the Nasa management from allowing it to fly in too cold of environment, but was also solved by venture star, by the use of composite tanks, now to be used on virtually all space vehicles in the future, such as BFR)
Public stupidity ( not understanding the real problems led to opposition to the program that was to fix those faults, and give us the shuttle we needed.)
We will now have to wait for BFR, and hope that the limiting factor is not the public demanding that it be outlawed, as soon as it has it's first issue.
Your officially welcome in europ now sir! :)
KW Awards - That;s a little shortsighted - rocket development has ALWAYS been highly dangerous, numerous deaths & explosions on our way to the stars (eg the Apollo 1 test)
1 - The first 'accident' was TOTALLY avoidable One of the Thiokol Engineers on the pre-laucnch conference call INSISTED this would happen - yet NAS's brass decived and stonewalled until Feynman's investigation
2 - the second happened to the oldest ship in the fleet, and could, I believe, had been avoided if the astronauts had permission for an EVA (spacewalk) to go outside and inspect.
Space is never going to be easy, OR completely safe. Just lets not make stupid decisions, like managers ho think they can wish away the laws of physics - THAT's the real problem
Terry Hart, as an astronaut your use of the word "alunimun" is disturbing.
Lolz thru
Alluminium ! in plain English :)
@@BINLASH123 *aluminum
The shuttle was not a failure. Thanks to it, we have the ISS, the Hubble telescope and a clearer idea of how to build a truly reusable spaceship. Future space projects like those of Space X or the Skylon Spaceplane (Alan Bond, Reaction Engines) will build upon that knowledge.
The ISS and the Hubble Telescope are useless expensive toys.
The shuttle was an expensive dangerous failure. And the ISS and Hubble are expensive toys.
What an amazing video
If the schoolchildren watching were expecting a lesson for life, they sure got it. A modern industrialised country used rubber way outside of its operating temperature. And they knew from operational environments that it did not work outside the range. And it caused failure.
All those lives lost all avoidable, Budget cuts and pressure to perform flawlessly. The space shuttle did not fail the powers above made it fail
I totally support cutting the budgets of space agencies...
Simonmoty If you listen to what Kranz says, starting at 15:00 "the first time you flew it, is the first time you flew it . . . high risk high return" These guys at NASA have balls the size of the Florida Keys, engineers, management, flight crew the lot of them. Problem is the political swamp critters in Washington lack any backbone for commitments beyond their short term in office. NASA engineers risk their whole life's career on the success of the project, that is commitment.
I totally agree with you @@trespire
If the shuttle did not exist your world is not the same as now. Gps navigation, satalitte tv would not be that common and would cost a lots more. that just 2 of many product you are using.
so all those want to shit on the space shuttle program you a fucking idiot
The only people who died were murdered because they were untrustworthy. You can't have a Freemason who is truthful.
I just have to add that @ 19:17 I am sure that the guy with the white hat and binoculars is "John Travolta", give a thumbs up if so do you! I could be the first to notice this fascinating account!
Please fire the person who wrote the first 20 seconds of the script since he or she clearly isn't proficient enough to use the English language in a sensible manner…
The way the narrator puts it make it sound like America has been putting people into space since 1776...
1. Is it possible for a designated piece of landmass to do anything at all? I thought it was the government of the United States of America that made it happen….
2. I didn't know they had the capacity in the 1700's to accomplish such a feat…
(btw… my native tounge isn't even English)
Yeah, ok, most people picked this up
Great premise for a Sci Fi film though ;)
3:32 That Woohoo was all kinds of wholesome. ah man that must have been so fun
The shuttle wasn’t reusable, it was refurbisheable. Expensive.
Am expensive dangerous toy.