Tiny Tina's Wonderlands - Why Nobody Cared.
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- Tiny Tina's Wonderlands - Why Nobody Cared. Wonderlands was release date was in march of 2022. Today in 2024, we go back and Take a look at why nobody cared In a a new never before seen review/retrospect. Thank you all so much for watching today's video! Subscribe for more Borderlands content because why not.
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I personally loved this game. You get to BLOW UP THE FUCKING OCEAN for Mr Torque.
I respect that, I liked the first play through, seeing him blow up the ocean was amazing. After you beat the game though, it falls apart really fast
@@0fficalHellfireBlowing up the ocean is one of my favorite scenes in this entire series. Wish the rest of the game was that good. (I say this as someone who also likes this game, but didn’t bother finishing it)
@@0fficalHellfireno new game plus was a deal breaker for me
Literally the best part of the game... I like Wonderlands quite a bit, but I would have liked it even more if the whole thing was up to that level.
Damn. You must be retarded.
It had the excuse that it was developed in a pandemic (and experimental) but its sequel does not have that excuse so we have every right to expect far better
100% facts
hah that's actually a fair point you make
It is not our burden as consumers to justify their constraints and accept lesser products for it for the same price. They still chose to sell it to us knowing what it was, and that removes any excuse they had. I get your point though.
SEQUEL???? THEY'RE MAKING MORE?!?!??
@@SirTayluh your paying a leaser price for it though 60 dollars is worth much less today than it was 2012
Dude when butt stallion died I was so shocked. It was actually a cool story moment
Agreeeed, it’s the best cutscene in the game with the most emotion and it’s retconned chapters later 😭 why gearbox why.
butt stallion was special... which for gearbox means dead meat. only the trash will survive. I'm still shook over maya man, and krieg, he and she deserve way better, and whats with another kid entering BL? we have tiny tina, a lot of tiny tina in fact, and they throw another kid in? bro, i'm done lol
It was a kids imagination and of course Tina was gonna bring her back in her own story
Heck she did the same thing to Roland who was about to die to jack but change it to when bloodwing save him
@@donovan_salgado Yeah, it felt lore consistent to me. I enjoyed my playthrough, even if after beating it I promptly reinstalled Borderlands 2; back when the company felt like it had something to prove
"Fails to do anything a borderlands fan actually cares about" boutta leave that review on 3 and tales 2 and the movie probably
It’s too damn true isn’t it 😭
ok that's actually pretty funny lol
And maybe BL4😢
I hope they delay it and learn a lesson from these debacles.
Aaaaaargh !
Kevin Hart was the nail in the coffin; 5 foot 4 helium sucking Roland ?
I'll save popcorn for the movie reviews 💀
3 was fine gameplay at least is solid
Hellfire woke up and choose violence this day 🤣
It happens
@0fficalHellfire I don't disagree but seriously using the first 2 missions gameplay lmao. But it's true, I beat once and played most of the way through a second time but went back to BL2 and BL3
If gearbox made this more like borderlands 2’s dlc. It would’ve been great
Even Borderlands 3's DLCs were pretty good too. A combination of 2 and 3's would be great, but they'll probably go down the route of Borderlands 3's and Tales 2's story. Meaning god awful writing; written by people who don't even care for the franchise and have an agenda to push.
yeah that's true. I liked the tropical island dlc, it was really cool actually but it broke the damn game and after all that time of it being completely fine. it think it wasn't even the dlc really, they capped levels and changed how bosses work. classic oh jesus moment
@@MrRADicalOfficial honestly, the fustercluck dlc was just that, my favorite guy from bl2 besides zero who has the personality of an emoji, two of the coolest cats on pandora kreig and maya a genuinly cute couple, for no reason killed to death and ended by the writing choices. terrible story throughout, terrible ending. just ends with an imagination of something is close enough. that's not what that was supposed to mean. that was really fucked. no room for that in BL anywhere. it was far from close enough. and hey, gay people are cool, we all know that, but you can tell when there is an inserted piece that does not belong, also the agenda of saying ugly people are actually the good looking people, perfect example is the rich scientist chick from tales 2, is she black? indian? wtf? explain? I know hammerlocks black af, idk what this lady is and idk why they chose that accent for her, it's so obscure and unknown it references a people group or race we don't even know about, and may not even exist, which doesn't make anyone racist for raising an eyebrow, like, even if you were curious, good luck finding out anything on the culture of that woman. and the tiny tina thing, I love that character but shes being used in a strange fan service kind of way. like maybe it's made for people who wear fedoras. just saying. again, not us. been holding that in lol
? Bl2 was awesome but the DLCs were well known for not being good except for dragons keep… the only good BL DLC was BL1
@@riioas5543 I guess that one was more in depth but I couldn't stand it lol except I liked Mr Torgue making everything badass as hell all hell. I really liked the tropical one actually with old crabby but it capped the entire game for no reason. They also had that one that looked like it was in Ireland, it was all rainy, moxxy was there, that was pretty cool, you get to see her boobs a lot. Bl3 I can't say the same, it's impossible to get any enjoyment from a game you know is designed to take the piss out of you
Chaos Chamber "Enjoyers" when they are given something enjoyable to do. It disgusts them greatly.
Gott always lookout for the wonderlands wilsons. They’re crazy 🤣
Wonderlands was a great game for a play through. Great story, and great villain with a good gameplay it’s just the lack of end game that ruins it.
Yep for a border lands game replayability and end game are placed highly.
I had a ton of potential. And id put it above bl3. In some places it took some steps forward in others it went backwards.
@@thefearturkey6944 the big problem with the end game was all we got was chaos chamber and they kept pumping it to higher levels. At launch everyone liked it we just needed other things. Hopefully wonderlands 2 and bl4 learn from the mistakes of the last 5 games and do better.
Indeed. I enjoyed Wonderlands for a few 100 hours. But the Chaos Chambers just wasn't fun. Also, just as the Pre-sequel, there was no real staying power. Once you've made the characters and builds you were done fast. Also the loot felt limited in scope and you were just re-farming the same thing at higher rarity... same reason I didn't like OP in BL2. Felt so pointless. The DLC's were also a waste of time. The main campaign and side quests were fun though.
Yeah Chaos Chambers was basically Nephalem Rifts from D3 all over again.
I got to Chaos 100 the hard way with a 1HP build and it felt it wasn't worth it.
Currently playing this game with my buddy, we're having a good time, I'm a spells only graveshot and my buddy is a trigger happy stabbomancer. I understand that its a DnD parody, so alot of it is just Gearboxes version of DnD adapted into a borderlands game, and its just enjoyable imo.
It's a great game on your first or second playthrough. A lot of people including Hellfire here said he enjoyed his first playthrough. Which from memory is about 40 or so hours. Especially if you take your time looking around the maps for the collectables. I think that's a great experience tbh. Many great full priced games out there that are one and done story games.
the day they upped the CC levels to 100 was the day I stopped playing
I don’t blame you at all, I saw the writing on the walls when it went from 20 to 40 haha
I was confused by the appearance of this game because we'd already had it, in Borderlands 2 DLC. Tina has already taken us on a DnD adventure, with actual character development and story. Why would we do it again?
Money 💴
Because of the growing popularity of dnd, especially during covid, they probably thought it would make a good cash grab.
I bought it and played it. I actually found enjoyable up to chaos 10. If drop rates were set at an across the board rating instead of depending on dice and kept raids and chaos chambers separate I would’ve given it more time.
the game feels like a dlc
@@PablitaOrtega77well, it is essentially a sequel to a DLC, so you're not far off (yeah, it's canonically a sequel to the Assault on Dragon Keep DLC)
Imagine if it actually got real post launch support like borderlands 2. Or at least borderlands 1. it would’ve at least been replay-able with some good dlc
I personally liked the game but I finished it once, I saw the end game and deleted it and went back to borderlands 2
I think that’s what the majority of people with a brain did 💀
My biggest regret is saying this game was gonna be the best in the series during the story... then the damn chaos chambers had to go and slap me in the face with a wet and sharp fish
The chaos chamber was great at launch and everyone liked it when we thought it wasn’t the only end game we were going to get. Then it was rough
I mean did you actually believe that story was it would be the best in the franchise? Or were you saying that because female empowerment or whatever? Because while tiny Tina is a fantastic character she's only good in small doses which is why her DLC in borderlands 2 was so amazing and absolutely beloved by everybody. Saying that this game was going to be the best is a stretch and even you couldn't even convince yourself that it was good lol
@@billdover3165 idk what happened to you, but I'm sorry it happened. I meant gameplay, it had easily the best potential in the series. Keep being an incel tho, it suits you
Chaos chamber is fine but there shouldve been proper endgame and ng plus
New game plus isn’t needed, they should have added some story dlcs and not as many chaos chambers but that’s about it
I actually really loved wonderlands at launch. The story was enjoyable, the game play was on par with borderlands 3, and I thought the Dragon Lord was pretty entertaining. That said, the endgame is what lost me entirely. Although I didn’t mind chaos chambers (before they added 100 of them), the game needed more raid bosses and story-driven content, which the dlcs didn’t deliver. I remember thinking that if this game had great dlcs, it could be up there as one of the best in the franchise. Unfortunately, that never came to fruition.
Sameeee, it would’ve stuck to 20 chaos chambers and they had some good DLC’s. This would be a really solid borderlands game
On par with borderlands 3 is not praise, it is an abhorrent insult
Agreed though, I enjoyed it slightly more then 3 (but that’s likely because I already somewhat knew what to expect)
The biggest problem with it was just lack of replayability the no new game plus ruined it for me thats always been part of borderlands identity thats sold the series for me its always cool replaying through a story with all the cool gear you found by the end of the game the story was leagues better then bl3 so its actually fun to play through whats the point of having good guns if theres nothing to do cause chaos chamber is boring asfk to me ive never been a fan of the round based missions in borderlands personally.
Or more so i would like to say whats the point of having good guns if there no variety of things to do with them chaos Chambers just basically the same thing over and over
One of the things that the mainline also does for replayability is the different characters all having their own unique builds (and multiple of them at that).
This game tries hard to be creative with you being able to grab any 2 classes but in the end it really doesn't make them feel all that different from each other. The classes are only really good for one thing so it doesn't leave much room for experimentation
I love this game more than Borderlands 3 , it give me Heroes might and magic 3 vibe
3 went all woke an gay. Still had fun with it but 2 is my fav for sure
the overworld being a pokemon knockoff was spot on
I remember my bud enjoying a single playthrough of this and when I saw what it offered, it didn't interest me. I haven't had a Borderlands itch and when I revisit say BL3 or BL2: it just smacks me how much the franchise has missed just by utter competence and feel bad for any dev who works on these due to someone like Randy or higher guys rejecting the most basic ideas.
dude, it's the fuckin hyperion story all over again, but theres no vault hunters willing to go kill jack-ass. too scary to leave your home and fix this shit I guess
or maybe we need another handsome jack working at gearbox to really stir the pot in the right direction, and get real with bl4, ai making a billion guns isn't impressive, it seems like it's a system for a billion guns, soulless, the guns in bl2 had soul, I like em, bl3, I don't like em. it's too complicated and none of it's interesting.
like the gun system feels completely random, which it is, but the point is for like the stars to align, but there's too many stars, and too many things on screen
i cant wait to see you, mak and thicc with bl4 being honest and upfront about it. question since gearbox rarely learns from mistakes since mak is forever off the team will they do a battlepass and mtx's like they were planning for 3?
There’s a chance. But hopefully the backlash from bl3’s attempts at this practice will keep any potential battle pass plans locked away in the vault. But hey man, that’s what I’m here for. To give you the up front and honest truth of what’s going on with borderlands and sprinkle in my take on it
@@0fficalHellfireI think there is a high chance. Tbh with you hell I didn’t even know about bl3 battle pass till 2022. lol I’m not kidding my friends and I didn’t even know about it whatsoever I wish I was lying but we barley kept up with bl3 news we found out about in 2022 when mak posted the screenshot and we saw it. Not gonna lie it made us furious furious enough to say screw bl3 we all deleted the game yeah we know it didn’t full happen but the vault cards are clearly the remnant of what it was going to be. Mak wasn’t kidding when he said the shills throwing it under the rug
@@strafer3459 yeah this game was designed to take advantage of your time, and rape your wallet. their trying to screw you over any possible way. they have the wrong business model. they didn't when they made bl2 and our beloved pre sequel and tales
My prediction is: They'll all praise it like MAK did when BL3 released. And then after a few months they'll start hating it because they are grifters with no actual opinions.
I feel that this game was actually pretty solid for what it is. Clearly this was some kind of experimental project where they saw people aching for some TTADK themed stuff and they wanted to try their hand at making a whole game based around the concept, and I feel like they did pretty well for someone experiencing the game for the first time. That being said, it is unfortunate that the game never really got much support afterwards and the effort they put into the post game was minimal. I am hoping that they have listened to the community and plan on reworking some cons and adding quality of life changes in the sequel, making it a game that actually holds up to what people are expecting just like the transition from BL1 to BL2.
Still haven't finished Wonderlands lol;
And I've been going back and playing the other games lately
You made the right call
Wonderlands is quite literally the *only* game I’ve ever found myself so thoroughly disgusted with the developers responsible that I couldn’t bring myself to play it anymore. Invariably my philosophy is: “if it’s fun I’ll play it who cares about the suits my time is valuable and I want to enjoy myself” but they behaved like such complete and utter scumbags I was actively having less fun after each update. And this is without even factoring in the chaos chambers. Such a shame how this turned out.
I really really enjoyed Wonderlands on the first 1-2 playthroughs. Meaning start a new hero. And for you to say that you enjoyed it on your first playthrough makes it weird that you don't recommend anyone playing it. There are many games out there that are 1-2 playthrough games that are great. The side quests in Wonderlands were among the best side quests out of the whole Borderlands series imo.
Yeah there's no endgame. And that's fine. The combat, especially the melee combat is super fluid and fun.
To be honest, they even screwed up the addition of melee weapons. It was suppose to be an all new weapon type like pistol, assault rifle, shotgun, etc but instead it’s basically just a reskin of your melee attack. You did too little damage even with a dedicated build, holding a bladed weapon to do better damage just defeats the whole purpose, and to top it off most bosses and some enemies couldn’t even be meleed. However, being able to have 2 skill trees from different classes was handled well and the best new addition that should obviously come back, it was the only reason I played the game longer than I wanted to.
Borderlands 2 was really a special game, and Tiny Tina was definitely a big part of it. She was very well writen, as every other character. Her quirks have a meaning and the more you get to know her the more you care. Even the RPG session on the DLC adds a lot of meaning to her behavior. It's the reason I came to hate her on every other game. She never matured, she never grew up, they kept her as this caricature of herself, deprived of any depth, meaning or development. Quirks alone can't sustain a character, and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands was yet another game that tried to capitilize on her quirks. That just doesn't work, that doesn't resonate with the audience, specially those who played the Godtier game Borderlands 2. Unless they understand why that game was succesful, every new release will be met with indiference.
Agree. Borderlands peaked with 2. It's been down hill ever since. Makes me thing the original devs must have aged out or been fired.
Ole Tiny Tina giving us the coined term Blunderlands, thank you Tina
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i like how butt stalion isn't even in the mainline games canon it's something jack made up to spite you
Butt Stallion was in Tales From The Borderlands too though, and that one is canon tbf - whether or not it was ever alive at any point or just manufactured or something is in the air
Just realized actually.
If jack bought butt stallion in 2 why is butt stallion mentioned in wonderlands at all?
Unless the game takes place between jack buying it and jack killing Roland.
I personally love this game because i play this with my older brother and im making good memories and the ocean is CRAZY and some of the side quests are amazing and feel like main story quests the plant one after you blow up the ocean and teh soul system is amazing the spells and skills are cool and the intro animation is amazing with the hate on the newbie and the gun system is kinda cool like having a billion different weapons unique on there on way and the legendary items are actually nice
I can understand that having a Fatemaker who doesn't "make Fate" is weird, but by the same logic our characters weren't really Vault Hunters in the older games either. We always just followed the ones who got there first. Steele opened the vault in BL1, Jack did in BL2, Zarpedon did in TPS, and Vallory did it in TFTBL, tho this can be debated since the vault needed to be reopened. So the first time we play as a so called Vault Hunter - who both opened a vault and fought the monster inside it - was either Rhys and Fiona, or - ironically - in BL3 with the Promethea vault.
But come on, it's a tabletop game withing a game franchise. Why would their title be Vault Hunter in a fantasy setting of a role playing game ? :D
Also, Tina IS expanded upon, but Wonderlands chronologically takes place either before the Commander Lilith DLC where the B Team is formed, or between that and BL3 where she is grown. This is TINY Tina, with her grief still lingering, trying to cope. I thought this was pretty obvious.
Dam man, you've been going crazy with the vids lately. Good on ya bro
Base game was fine with those 4 small "side quest" in overworld like small DLC that were 2/3 hours long each. If game had 4 big DLCs like BL3 it would be awesome
Here’s what I don’t think you understand, this is meant to replicate DND nonsense and this did a good job at it
Idk how they think they could get me to care about a throwaway joke from Handsome Jack's voice actor. How up your own ass as a writer do you have to be where "butt stalion" is "so epic funny XD XD" that it deserved to go this far. It's the epitome of the toxic cringe that Gearbox fosters.
Personally I think the biggest problem was making it for teens. That and adding modern comments, like vending machine congratulating you for surviving capitalism. It was built up like it was a full game in the style of dragons keep. Then get lectured by a teenage Tina about name calling when as an adult she does it in B3. But demonic possession, that’s fine. I preordered chaotic edition, but after this (and plc bullshine), as well as making tales 2 cannon. B4 though I will give the movie a chance unless it’s rated teen then I’ll pass.
BL2 poking fun at capitalism: 🤩
WL poking fun at capitalism: 🤬
After Borderlands 3 left me feeling so disappointed I had no care in the world to play another Borderlands game or even a Gearbox game especially since I preordered it back when I was streamlining preorders like a junky my last being Cyberpunk. Until I was so excited to see the anti woke Stellar Blade that I put my money up because I wanted to get more games like it and less games that are touched by Sweet Baby Inc
Respect, borderlands 3 sucks
@@0fficalHellfire It doesn't.
BL3 has flaws and design decisions I heavily dislike but it is not a bad game.
To act like BL3 is some irredemable game just makes you seem bitter and nostalgic. Your entire channel is based around hating Gearbox yet you'll buy everything they buy anyway. Just move on.. oh wait, you can't because then your channel would die. 🤷
Wonderlands is BY FAR my favorite borderlands game. The enemies are way better then in borderlands.
I felt exactly the same and I'm a huge fan.
The wizard class with a one shot pistol and dual casting spells just walks through the game on super easy mode.
If you’re not real familiar with the whole franchise and you just jump on this game it’s fun to me. I’m kinda hooked
I enjoyed Wonderlands for the short campaign, it had more laughs for me than Borderlands 3. It was way too short though, and its replayability is low. They should have released more content for it, but let it die to work on B4.
So sad :( it could’ve been wayyyy better
Tiny Tina Wonderlands was very fun and good for what it was. My friends and I played it a lot. The end game wasn’t great but the dungeons was fun. I recommend is your a big Borderlands fan. Give this a try you might find a gem here you can enjoy.
Check your comments you’ll find out people did care.
When they first increased the Chaos levels, I jokingly commented under a video that their next step would be to increase it to 100 next. I hated being right about that. I slogged through the first increase, but I think I didn't even bother finishing the CL100 once. I might have stopped at around 70ish.
I had played the entire main game once, and the only incense for playing it again was for a friend of mine to watch via Discord.
The biggest gripe I had was the melee integration. I LOVE melee. I especially love melee in shooters. The melee weapons also were somewhat viable. Mostly outclassed by guns, but still very strong - UNTIL the final boss, which is a mandatory fight, has several phases that are completely unreachable by melee, as well as some other side quest bosses haveing the same issue, and I think 2 of the PLC bosses as well. "Here, have some melee. But screw you if you want to be a purist about it!" Then they added guns that melee bonuses. Which is crap, for two reasons: 1) They were stronger than actually melee'ing, so the solution to melee problems was simply not playing melee, but just scaling off the melee stat. 2) It simply felt like not playing melee. They deny the fantasy that they themselves were giving me, of running into enemies and hacking at them, or smashing them to bits.
But yeah, Wonderlands is a GREAT game for a single playthrough. If you can grab it for 20€, you'll have a wonderful time for that money. Just don't replay it for a while and don't bother with the endgame.
i dont know if you mentioned the loot dice but i found it to be cool but tedious. i was happy to find one but i was never happy with what it dropped
As a borderlands fan I have never played this game, I was extremely busy when it released so I didn’t even bother with it, then hearing all the backlash I just skipped it. I do want to visit it one day. I did buy it with all the DLC for about £15 so that’s not too bad.
I would say wait to get the main game on sale as the first run is pretty fun but skip the dlc.
I enjoyed my first playthrough, but there was no replayability and no real support from gearbox
I tried playing this with my dad, and it was ok, but it could've been a LOT better, and the splitscreen Co-Op crashing just pissed me off lmao
Seriously, they need a Borderlands 4 with Tina as a playable vault hunter. I could imagine some of her skill tree including things like "All Tina's grenades have MIRV (5, 8, 10, 12, 16, depending on how many points are spent) ability. If your Grenade mod already has MIRV ability, each of the child grenades also has the MIRV ability granted by the grenade mod." and "All your grenades have the Homing ability, If your grenade mod also has homing ability, homing speed is doubled" and "Tina can use grenades during Fight for your Life" and "If Tina is out of grenades, using the grenade ability consumes one non-equipped grenade mod to fill her grenade capacity"
The "All your grenades have...(whatever)" skills would be in different trees at tier 3. These kind of skills would give us the Tiny Tina we all want to see.
Forget Tina I'd rather be Markus of Markus Munitions
@@DrakeKnight99Nah, Markus doesn't seem to be the vault hunter type. He seems to prefer to hang around his shop selling guns.
New borderlands player here, I just came from the top five worst players vids and tiny tinas wonderlands was my first introduction to the whole borderland universe and I had a real ball with the game it was fun, feeling like a hero, going on magical adventures with my friend who joined me and I had an absolute blast with it and I plan on buying Pandora's box edition and give all of the main line games a try and hopefully enjoy them too. Only thing I hated was the servers kicking my friend out and I had to jump the rings to get us back on 😅
Personally I enjoyed Wonderlands
Was the DLC shite ? Yes !
Would I play the main game again? Yes !
Is it worth new players playing? Yes
"oMg WhaT A sHiLl!111!"
Borderlands is all about the endgame, replay value and dlc while Wonderlands didn’t have any of that
This was the last borderlands I played with my buddy before he passed. I'll never open it again. Too much feels
I’m sorry to hear that ivann :(
Randy pitchford needs to be removed from gearbox.
I played the first few levels and left it for a while, then I forgot I had it, no desire to pick up where I left off. But back on B2.
I loved it I have over 300hrs still play now
It still upsets me that I pre-ordered this game and got the special edition that included all the "DLCs" or what I thought was promised as DLCs at the time due to my faithfulness to the franchise of the Borderlands games, also bc doing that was usually $10-15 dollars cheaper than buying them individually. Because of this I will never do it again especially not for Gearbox
Same brother same I did the same thing and regretted
I usually like the series and gunplay enough to farm mostly everything in the first 4 games
But his It really is just play it once and your done
I just got to max level and when the first dlc drop I just skip it hoping the next one would be better but chaos level 100 and all the dlc will be like the first one crush my dreams and expectations
For bl4 I'm gonna wait and see before committing to dlc packs
when the chaotic great edition was on sale for like 80% on christmass i bought it.
i mean, if you got it just because you want to play more of what you already like then it's good
it pained me to realise however that the only bit of extra content are 4 takedowns, and not only that, the next level edition doesnt even include them, as it came for free on PSplus and couldnt play them with a friend that was on ps4 because he needed to buy them
I'm actively rolling face and when I heard Bobba tunde lands 3 I started laughing 😂
God I remember when I first picked up Wonderlands on launch lmao. It was fun. Tons of fun. I was enjoying exploring the maps, finding new cool loot and secrets, playing the sub missions, messing around with my class and the multi-class system, there was a lot of good fun to be had here. But that's all it was, strong foundations. Foundations that after end game and some Chaos Chamber playing, after I had beaten all 4 raid bosses, I jjst sat back and waited and wondered, "Well that was fun, I wonder what's next? I can't wait to see what updates and additions they have in store for the game."
Well here we are now and since then I have never picked the game back up. Not even since after they added those Mirror things. I just didn't have any incentive to play anymore. What a load of dung like actually wtf? Gearbox had a very strong foundation for a very special game to stand on, but they kept it barren and naked and empty. It was just sad to see how quickly Gearbox dropped the game's development. It could in a weird way have been like the TPS we never got, an extra BL game for the franchise aside from the main numbered entries that is as big and vast as one of them. Welp that never happened.
I remember coming up with ideas as to possible DLCs with my friends. Ideas of different fantasy like places and settings Tina could think up of. Maybe having some other BL characters like Marcus or Brick or Mordecai make their own smaller-set DLC-sized campaigns where they tell the story and are the Bunker Master lol. Yeah we all ended up forgetting Wonderlands existed after a while 😂. Fkn pathetic honestly.
I mean, people seem to forget this is a spin-off. I like it as it’s own thing and don’t associate it with the core borderlands. It is its own game to me
Nothing wrong with that, just wasn’t for me I guess
Another quality video dropped 😅
Can’t stop, won’t stop 🫡
@@0fficalHellfire I never clicked something so fast bro
Fun for a playthrough but then there's literally nothing left to do other than the boring same old chaos chambers and dlcs that have a half hour of playtime at the most (btw I never even bought the dlcs just like you)
Yepppp, literally not worth the money at all. I agree
Damn i got it 😢 i wish i saw this sooner
It failed because of the structure of the game. The BIG issues for me were
- No NG+, really. So just as you leveled to max so now can't use build
- No story DLC. Perfect setting for big story DLC but no, chaos chambers
- F^&k chaos chambers, they were just boring as F.
I enjoyed my one and only play through the story though :)
The potential of this game alone got me so excited. Back before it released, my DnD buddies and I talked about this game and what kind of weapons, guns, stories, characters, places, and whatever else they could add from the DnD manuals or other inspiration to Wonderlands. We all played it when it came out, which we all had a good time with it, but once your done with the first playthrough you start to see the actual issue.
For me personally, I am such a Borderlands fan, this was just fun for me to play. Not that it didn't have it's issues(it definitely does), but having that new coat of paint for basically the same game was enough for me to enjoy this on it's own because it's different enough where I can play it when I'm bored of the other games.
what gets me is they could have come up with intresting dlc with the premise but decided on just makeing cash grab raid bosses insted.
Loved it
Im just glad the story was at least better than 3 and was decently compelling (until but stalian got revived) i also enjoyed the game play on my first run
You don't do CC 99 times, you can skip 5 levels at a time until level 50, then you have to do the rest one by one for some reason.
Just for the record, I loved Wonderlands and because it was based off Tina's whole D&B campaigns I kinda knew what to expect.
Good game but it did feel like Gearbox kinda stopped caring about it
if borderlands 4 gets rushed because of fucking wondershit 2 im gonna be a karen for the first time
I played for the first hour the skeleton boss fight was good the introduction to the town was good then you go to the next areas where you just get a guy in a screaming echo in bs at you then going into a cave of nothing got bored and never touched it again i probably got better but i dont have anyone else playing coop which also killed it for me as i always play coop for borderlands games
It was still a good game for what it was I got the platinum to the game it was great I didn't bother with the chaos chamber. I just got to level 20 chaos in stop there because that's what the trophy required.
My biggest gripe with this game is that they treat it like an MMO, theres no overpowered builds theres no builds that take you to chaos 100 i got hard stuck at chaos 35 because i cant min-max my character to actually do damage to anything. Everything that did damage in this game they nerfed until it couldnt be used. And i understand that one build being used is bad but the solution isnt make that build bad its to make other builds more usable than them. Spells and pixies is all you can use in this game.
What still baffles me about this game is how not whacky it is. It's a full fantasy game run by Tina, but it feels... pretty standard. Other than a few things, like blowing up the ocean. It feels less whacky and more standard than a main Borderlands game. They could have made things a lot more weird and unpredictable than they did.
Also, a thing I noticed about both this game and BL3 is they have a bad tendency to introduce a character, then drop them and forget they exist. Like... Lorelei is there for Promethea, then you never hear from her after that. Clay is the Eden-6 character, then you never hear from him. Both games have so many characters that are just in and out. And there will always be SOME characters like that, but it shouldn't be ALL of them
Spells are not lame grenade mods, at least in my opinion. Could just be that I don’t vibe with grenade builds too much but I never really end up using them unless I have a fastball, or a slag nade in bl2. I really enjoyed the spell slinger and its ability to spam magic. I’m also bias as a dungeon master irl so there’s that lol
Are any main series characters even in this game? Do they mention handsome sorcerer at least lmao
Other than butt stallion. Nope
that's crazy how they ignore prior events like that @@0fficalHellfire 💀
Excited for Boarderlands 3 if Tiny Tina is considered garbage. Wonderland is one of my favorite games this year I had a blast. It was my entry into the series.
By all means, not an awful game. It’s an awful borderlands game. But as someone who’s played every bunt since the first one in 2009. Consider going back to borderlands 2 after your play through with 3. That’s all I ask. Wonderlands made my top 5 borderlands game list. Actually beating out bl3 which I think is the worst in the series
@0fficalHellfire the story of bl3 100% was the worst but I think that it had by far the best gun play in th3 series
Yes, in that case BL3 is eons better than WL. Better DLC, gunplay and attention than WL ever got
@@Aphroditus_Areiai honestly do not understand this point that borderlands 3 has the best gunplay…. ALL u do is equip a high dps weapon, hold the trigger brainlessly and win the game… for me it has the most shalow and boring combat in any game in the franchise… characters are basically all the same, just compare how differently U would play in borderlands 2 with each character, even in the presequel …. They watered Down everything… it is really brainless now in my experience
@2005jare then how are the other games different from holding down the trigger?
The failure to add any sort of new game plus killed it for me even just a campaign reset button would of been fine, I know its not for everyone but I enjoy replaying at max and farming as I go thats how I have always enjoyed these games
It had no Iron Bear.
i gave the game like 3 whole playthroughs, i think coming back and running through the story every so often is pretty much the best this game has going for it, which is admittedly how i like playing Borderlands mostly anyways. not having extra story content DLCs to either get even wackier with the setting or flesh out some of the interesting characters the game introduces was a huge mistake and of course the chaos chambers are kinda shit. although i will give the caveat that i'd actually like to see chaos chambers or something similar return to borderlands or maybe an eventual wonderlands sequel, but it absolutely CAN NOT be the only offering for endgame activities and loot needs to be target farmable more efficiently. i just think the randomized rogue-lite style dungeon runs is a good addition to the franchise it's just the execution was... messy.
I had a fun time playing this game. It was pretty damn fun IMO
I got it when it was £20 for everything after i completed BL3. I played with no sound because the story was absolutely bs, i did not care one bit. The only thing I'll say is it still feels like BL in movement and shooting- which cant be beat imo. I fully agree with you no one should waste their time with the game. I finished it and didnt bother with endgame grind or dlc. I love DND and BL, but this did not work due to writing
As a genuinely enthusiastic Borderlands player I can honestly state the majority of us disliked the utter failure of B3. TTW is nothing more than suitable spinoff of B3. I haven't played it, and have ZERO interest in doing so. Thanks for your informative video, hellfire.
No problem at all, borderlands 3 was like gearbox taking a crap on our face and this game was them rubbing it in 💀
This game is actually better than bl3, but it does lack in end-game content.
BL, Boy Love 3, the finest game.. Yeah, maybe just abbreviations are out of control.
Regressing to BL1's lack of a playthrough reset option because you falsely assume the problem is multiple playthroughs rather than the painful story pacing of BL3 and the complete lack of a reason to play tvhm in it. :(
I'd say we like it actually quiet a bit. Got it on sale for around 10€ and played in a group of 3 ans it was fun. Some of the jokes were good, the Tabletop Overworld was very charming. Just a decent game that is also playable on Steam Deck.
Give it a try.
Anybody else pissed they took away shooting enemies in the legs to cripple them and slow em down after bl2?
I bought the game and played it with a buddy. (Same one from a pearl from the Tina slots 😂) We both enjoyed a first playthrough and never went back. I hated the chaos chambers, I thought they were pointless and never bought any other dlc for Wonderlands.
However, I'm scared that the amount of money gearbox made from that BS. This is gonna be a thing they keep doing.
Also side note. For 10 years, I wanted the original loot chest for BL2 and I finally got it last year in mint condition. It's not my craziest BL2 thing in my collection. I have one better, that I personally carried on the bus home. However, it feels like it's come full circle. 🤘
Broooo, I wish I had the loot chest. That shit is sick.
@@0fficalHellfire I've got the BL2 and 3 loot chest. No bs. The crazy shit I have. I have a BL2 Standee.
Ok so was the story of wonderlands actually real like is d lord alive or what as im confused
I liked the game, but the after launch support made it not worth playing. I go back from time to time and run some chambers, but not like I play bl2 or even how I played 3
I haven't played this game for about 6 month or more and when I decided to replay it, it started to lag spike for some reason. Yee great game which can even work. Playing bl2 and bl3 no problem with fps. Bl3 , wonderlands , new tales and that borderlands movie writing already have me disappointed about bl4. If that game sucks rip this franchise. Also wonderlands scammed fans with dlc season pass.
Such a waste of potential. I could write a small novel about all the way this game failed, but more importantly, especially after Tales 2, it really makes me worried for BL4.
The good news is that we always have 1, 2, and 3, but it'd be a real shame if BL4 is as bad as Wonderlands.
hmmm i don't whats worse
A. the borderlands movie trailer
B. Borderlands 3 story
C. Tiny Tina's wonderlands
D. Borderlands 4
I found out what a dps check was 😅 with this game
I'm likely in the minority here, since Borderlands is famous for its guns, but I think this game should have been bold by getting rid of guns *completely* and fully embracing the medieval fantasy setting. The closest thing to guns in my opinion should have been crossbows, and there should have been an even stronger focus on melee weapons and magic. That would have really distinguished it from the main games and given it its own identity.
I thought that PLC stood for Players Loosing Choice. Also, instead of of the tiny Tina games and tales from the borderlands games. Gearbox should've focused on quality of life patches for bl1, bl2, and bltps like MAK said.
That works too 💀
@@0fficalHellfire glad you liked the acronym
That's it I'm going back to borderlands 2 handsome jack take me back to the golden age.
if TT Wonderlands 2 come out out I would like for them to fix their mistakes but also allowing me to use melee weapons again the dopamine I get when I run up and smack the shit out of an enemy with a slow but powerful melee attack and watching them fly hits different