I would seriously consider buying this when it’s time to change my lovely and great fun Mini Cooper S E and it will sit nicely on my drive beside my 2023 Defender 90 D250
Love that MG (CN) are getting in and giving people what they are asking for.. all the while Legacy Auto are still scratching their behinds wondering if EV’s will succeed.
EV's won't 'succeed' in the medium to long term unless the politicians get out of the mindset of using them to enrich themselves and their friends. The charging infrastructure, apart from Tesla's supercharger network, is appalling and it's not improving. And what about the energy supply problems? In the UK, we can barely cope with current demand let alone the demands of mass EV charging.
Keep in mind not all countries list prices all inclusive and not all manufacturers list prices the same way. For example in N America the taxes and other fees are not shown on the website. Also Tesla lists its prices including delivery while traditional Auto does not. Delivery can add a grand or two. Taxes can add up to 15%. Fees for auto dealers near me are up to a grand.
Prestige cars are VERY expensive in Australia, both new and used. Way more expensive than in the UK. However, there seems to be an unexplained discrepancy in the comparative price of EVs in Australia and New Zealand, which goes beyond the fact that there are still Government rebates for new EVs in Australia and NZ, whereas they've ended in the UK. I don't know why, but even Teslas are cheaper in Australia and NZ than they are in the UK, and that is after Tesla reduced its prices in the UK. Tesla did a smart thing in the UK. After having raised its prices significantly, in-line with the very expensive prices of new competitors in the EV segment, it soon after reduced them again, making Tesla comparatively good value. Given Tesla's lead in technology, range, performance, and of course, charging infrastructure, Tesla is now the price leader in the EV segment in the UK. There is only one brand that significantly undercuts Tesla on price in the UK and that is MG, but the MGs aren't in the same league. Of course, there are other EVs on the market, but I think it's fair to say that MG and Tesla have the largest shares of EV sales in the UK. If you can't afford a Tesla, you are more likely than not buying an MG, and if you need an estate car (wagon), there is only the MG5. Currently, there is no brand in the EV segment in the UK cheaper than MG, and all the other cheaper than Tesla options are so close to Tesla prices that it doesn't make much sense to buy them. The VW ID range feels cheap and nasty even compared to MG, and the VAG group products all have expensive options. Kia's EV6 is in short supply, and is ultimately priced against the Model Y. Hyundai's Ioniq 5 has had rave reviews, but is also priced against the Model Y. Nissan's new Ariya is more expensive than the Model Y, etc, etc, etc. And utlimately, it comes down to charging infrastructure. Tesla has it, while all others still don't. Tesla has reduced its prices so that they aren't beaten on price, and they have the supercharger netwwork. Very smart. And the only brand that's selling EVs for significantly less is MG. The offerings between MG and Tesla, either have expensive options, are from new Chinese brands, or have long wait times. Here in the UK, it seems as if there's now a lot of choice in the EV segment, especially for crossovers, but given the general lack of infrastructure, Tesla remains the compelling choice. Even without the supercharger network, Tesla is price competitive, and when you consider they have leading technology, range and performance, they are price leaders. The only thing that lets Tesla down is its reputation for poor build quality. And the reviews of the Model Y stated the ride was too hard, which has apparently been addressed. Anyway, I've lived in the US, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Europe and the Middle East, and average cars in the US were by far the cheapest, although that was some time ago. Of course, the US hasn't traditionally had a significant sub-compact market, so the cheapest cars are sold elsewhere. And now we have really cheap cars being sold in the emerging markets, particularly in Asia. There also used to be countries in Europe that were significantly cheaper than the UK, and some people even ordered right-hand drive cars from European dealers and imported them, but no longer. If you look at the prices of European cars in the US, they are significantly cheaper in the UK, both new and used. Maybe new prices of some cars are a little lower in Europe than in the UK, but if you look at used prices that's not the case. In Europe, used prices are relatively high and the average miles (kilometres) covered is extremely high compared to cars in the UK. Overall, the UK is in fact one of the cheaper car markets. And you also have to consider the cost of ownership, particularly maintenance. The UK has a lot of marque specialists offering expertise and competitive labour rates, and there's generally good availability of parts and often multiple suppliers. In New Zealand, for instance, that's not the case. In many countries, if you buy anything remotely special, it's significantly more expensive to buy and also to maintain. There may well be only one importer/dealer in the country and only one service centre. The technicians may have lower expertise. Often, they haven't been on all the factory courses, or you have one trained technician leading a workshop where none of the other mechanics have any specialist marque training or any training with a comparable marque. Trying to keep even a very ordinary car well-maintained can be essentially impossible in some countries where the average mechanic is a 'cowboy'. Lastly, in addition to what RCdiy said, some countries have a culture of dealers charging more than MSRP, commonly termed overs. That hasn't really been a thing in the UK, although Covid resulted in many delivery mileage 'used' vehicles being marketed for overs. However, the market in recent weeks appears to recovering, with more used cars up for sale since Covid, meaning new cars are now arriving in greater numbers, and new car sales numbers, however they are calculated, back that up. And the amount of overs being asked, even for special cars, is also dropping quite quickly.
It's not an MG thought is it. I've stuck RR badge on my fiesta, but it's still a Ford. It's a SAIC (let's do half union jack rear lights to keep the illusion going).
Years ago I owned an MG Midget and later an MGB. YE, for sure, I'd buy one to put beside the Tesla Model 3 but I live in the interesting car desert of the USA
Car is stunning, cant agree that its cheap, last year promotions were indicating £30000. Do i want one, you bet, will they take my MG TF in part exchange
I think this time is the one of the handful occasions Im grateful this car is not available in Canada. Im sure if it does, it will blow a big hole on my financial planning
I was originally expecting to replace my current Model S with a new one before the engine/battery warranty runs out, but that's been scuppered by the RHD debacle, and you know what? I'm a single guy, I might just go now the MG route - that looks bloody good to me.
My 1960 Midget (continental tire mount on back and a few factory upgrades) got 117 mph on highway. I think it would be time I got an improved version. Oh yes. The US. I'll see about that.
I live in Norway and we are definitely considering as 2nd car to our model Y. One caveat, and that’s the size. Unlike traditional Mg sports cars that were small this is huge - more or less a model Y footprint. And my garage may struggle to have space for both. Hmmm. Well we will see.
Good start. Now for MG to take out the Mazda Miata that took out MG. Yeah, a true 2 seater sports car like a Miata or, the original MGB etc. Mazda might be sweating right about now--revenge of the MG. About that Ute thing...
In the UK, next to nobody would buy a Cyberstar plus Tesla for two car family. They buy one electric and the ICE for travelling any distance and it will always be that way unless they quadruple the range on electric cars
You could drive almost anywhere in the UK on 1 charge and there are fast chargers all over the place if you even need one. It's an island so it's not like they are going on super long road trips.
Agreed - if you drive beyond currently available range I’d question whether a driving licence is appropriate if you’re not planning to stop for a break regardless of car type. I do however agree that charging infrastructure is still a major issue here.
@@CL-gq3noGosh no, you don't understand the UK mentality. The must have requirement for any EV to be remotely considered useable is that it must do the "standard commute" which is defined as:- Lands End to John O'Groats (i.e. the length of the country), it must do this both ways, without stopping, towing a caravan, with the wipers, lights and heating on in the middle of winter, fully laden and in under 18 hours. Otherwise an EV is utterly useless.
Looks amazing. The small engine would be fine for me - finally it has too much power for me. But fast charging, range and a good boot space are essential for me.
Will be a winner once distance between charges reches 500 miles plus. Basically you're paying a lot for a beautiful design which will have the same components as the majority of bland looking EV's. Let us all reliability is great, if so this will be a game changer and open the market for many other sporty EV's...
I wouldn't go quite that far, but the Cyberster could be somewhat of a disruptor. I doubt Porsche expected MG to launch such a car with the option of well in excess of 500bhp. I would think that's making them rethink the power options for the upcoming Boxster/Cayman EVs.
It’s attractive, but sports car people are going to want known good car reviewers to have a look and drive first. Has to be sporty not just slick looking. That said, it it’s not too heavy and has good handling it’d absolutely sell in the US.
I restored an MGB Roadster in my late teens. I still have it, but it has been sitting in the garden awaiting another restoration for years! But as you say, great fun.
I love that MG had the guts to make an actual fun car! Even a new ICE roadster would be a surprise but it is so impressive to produce this. Some fun in the EV market is badly needed, not just another fast accelerating crossover.
@@fatdoi003 Presumably Jaguar will build on the experience/expertise it gained with the I-Pace. I don't know how much EV tech/experience Tata has, but they have the money to buy that in if they want to, and I don't think it makes much sense for a small company like Jaguar to develop EV tech by itself. IMO, it would be smart if Jaguar could simply form a joint partnership with Tesla and re-clothe Tesla's platforms and maybe tweak suspension and handling to be more Jag-like. I think that kind of marriage would actually work well for both companies. However, Tesla would probably not want Tata involved, even if it was prepared to to deal with Jaguar.
We get ripped off in the U.K. with Tax on new Cars. The whole government thought up they wanted less Cars on the road and doing everything to put off anyone thinking about running a Car. If we had American prices for the Model 3 one would be on the drive here in Scotland. The MG will sell like hot cakes, second hand for £30k in a few years will do very nicely. Sadly it’s a weekend toy with little to no room for storage. I have one rule with my Cars it has to take a suitcase.
I have already placed a $500 deposit with my local MG dealer. Melbourne MG. They said they have no idea when the Cybester will arrive and of course no pricing - but I’m hoping to be one of the first Aussie owners.
I would definitely like to look at one (like going to an art gallery) - but buy one? too much $ - I pretty much walk (or bike) now -cars just too expensive
The Assie Ute mabye should have a bigger battery. How far is it from the outback to anywhere else ? Other than that, $17,400 U.S.dollars is maybe less than any worthwhile new vehicle I know about, now. Love the Cyberster. You right-hand drivers got lucky this time. Enjoy.
I know a few farms where it won’t have the range to get to the front gate, but people on those farms use planes to pick up their mail.😂 small farms in coastal areas will like them as they can easily be charged from solar panels and won’t disturb livestock.🤔🦘
I am looking forward to this vehicle the moment I laid eyes on it. But the last thing I do need from a roadster is to be the quickest car. It's purpose is to have fun on the road and enjoy the trip. And enjoy the jealous looks from bystanders every time you park that beauty 😂
Also Ute short for utility vehicle or utility coupe, more emphasis on storage capacity. So says google. I have wondered just never looked up until now 😂
I really want a drop-top EV for my next vehicle, but nothing other than this MG appears doable (price-wise). Too bad no plans to sell in in US. Some enterprising company will eventually sell a sub $60K convertible with nice specs in the US. I will be in the market for one beginning in 2026 (about when my Honda Fit will have 170k miles).
I think the base model (fully loaded) needs to be under the GBP40K tax level. Most British people are big time brand snobs; certainly those that can afford such cars new. And next year there'll be the new EV Boxster/Cayman range, which I'd expect to start circa 55K, certainly sub-60K. Maybe it'll be launched at a much higher price than it ends up selling for. One thing's for sure, they'll be much cheaper than a Boxster when three years old. That'll probably be the time to consider one if indeed they are considered to be any good. They'll have to be more than just quick in a straight line. And the build quality and materials quality will also have to be good to retain value. Of course, when they're three years old, the technology will be old hat. EVs looked to be holding their prices until a couple of months ago when prices dropped dramatically. You can now get a Tesla Model 3 Performance, which actually drives rather well, for less than half the new price with less than 30k miles. The pre-facelift MG EVs are also available with less than 30k miles for circa half the price of a new one. Even the Porsche Taycan is not holding its prices. Whereas, the 981 Boxster S, now as old as 11 years, has retained circa 3/4 of its price when new. Will EV technology move on to a point where it doesn't advance rapidly? I don't know. But for the foreseeable future, I think EVs are going to depreciate almost as fast as computers and cellphones, as those that can afford them in the first place will want the latest tech.
Problem with UK and EU is the combined import duty and VAT/Sales Tax. Typically, about 30% in total. Import 10%, the rest VAT and in some EU countries 25-27% ! Luxembourg only 16%.
@jimmyh6601 I actually lived there for 3 years as the first Yank to ever trade in all three Commodity Exchanges in the early 80's. I love the sport MG back then too. I don't believe in Guns by the way.
Remember that car prices in the UK, by law are “on the road” prices. The price includes all taxes, number plates, delivery, VAT, The first year’s road tax, everything in fact except the car insurance and fuel, having said that most dealers include a tank of fuel or the car pre-charged.
@@radart6037 It was done about 35 years ago. It was a nightmare before that! Bottom line is you can’t directly compare US prices with UK prices. Also UK cars are often higher spec, even Tesla’s have improved alarm sensors and other brands UK is usually higher spec, even for the same model e.g. Alloy wheels.
Hey Sam! I'd wonder if a deal could be made with MG. "Here's prime land for a gigafactory. We'll grease the skids for passing permits for radical vertical integration from mining & refining to chips. motors, cells, & batteries." I get that Australia isn't' tier 1 in terms of market size. They're not out of the game either. The addressable market is large enough for a manufacturer to stake it out. MG moves in, or BYD, or Tesla even, build their righthand drive units & replacement-repair parts plant there and they will cash in!. Our relationships with autos is changing. One new feature will be around how they will keep their value. People will hold on to their autos longer and expect OTA updates & drop in upgradeability standard, albeit as a service and add ons.
As the model Y was mentioned, it would be nice if we could hear something about Sandy Munro's finding that the structural battery back has zero reparability. In the UK this is apparently having major implications with insurance as even minor damage can lead to a complete write off.
Good looking car. Hopefully they get rid of the scissor doors, or make them optional. Looks like they're looking to grab market share from the Porsche Boxster. It looks like the lovechild of a Boxster ( front) and F type ( rear). I'm looking to get a convertible soon, and an electric one would be awesome. Hopefully we'll get one here in the States soon
Not easy to find even a motor cycle that will surpass those specs at a cheaper price. Can still be done without pyrotechnics, by all means, but it's not easy.
In Aus, yes, but in the UK it'll be a brave person who buys one over a comparatively-priced Porsche Boxster. I don't understand what Sam is saying about UK prices. Maybe he's just talking about EV prices? But UK prices of prestige brands are way lower than in Aus, both new and used.
@@TheMelbournelad That wasn't what I was saying. True prestige cars are very much more expensive in Australia than in the UK. Ordinary cars new are somewhat more expensive, except EVs. Basically Sam is wrong in general about UK car prices, but he's right when it comes to sub-premium EVs. One reason is that Oz still has Govt incentives. But I think there's more to it than just that. Otherwise, IMO the Aussie auto scene is a rip-off. It's more expensive than even NZ.
Yeah... but Neta is not coming to Australia anytime soon, right? Same can be said to the Nio, Xpeng, Li, Hiphi, Zeeker and Link&Co. They are heading to the Europe first, because it is not really a sensible decision to set up expensive influences at a vast country which has it's total population lower than the city of Shanghai.
30k in Europe? That would be amazing. But that's not going to happen. Get the Neta to Europe, including the EU Homologation process, transport costs, raising the price because "it goes to Europe and the Europeans shall pay more", import taxes and a whole variety of additional taxes as well, and you will see the Neta getting pretty much the same price tag as the Cyberster.
What others have said, plus, IMO the Cyberster looks better. Also, MG has brand recognition, and has also established itself as being well-supported by its dealer network. IMO, MG has the best chance of any Chinese-made brand to be successful in the UK, Australia, etc. Given the prices in Australia for premium brands, it probably stands a better chance there of being a success than in the UK, where one would expect the new Boxster/Cayman EVs to not be much more money.
yewt is 'Ute' short for Utility vehicle only called that in Australia to my knowledge. usually a converted medium sized car design. Lovely vehicle, wouldn't mind one at all.
Sam, cars in the UK were among the cheapest in Europe. Or at least it was like that before Brexit. Maybe things have changed now 🧐 If you want to look at scary prices check powerful ICE cars in Norway or the Netherlands 😂
I think Sam is talking about EV prices. Prestige ICE cars are way more expensive in Australia, both new and used, but EVs are cheaper, for whatever reason. One reason is that they still have Government incentives.
Eh? No they weren't! Cars in the UK have always been expensive compared to mainland Europe. There were even companies a few decades ago that did personal imports for you because buying in Germany or Belgium was so much cheaper.
@@nigel.w Regardless of price - this is a market Tesla will need to enter eventually..."Model 2" is obviously the priority - but I see no reason they can't work towards that and the roadster simultaneously...plus there are several people that earned one through referrals that Tesla eventually needs to pay off...
Sam, they are NOT on sale in the UK - likely to be Autumn (Fall) 2024 at the earliest. All you can do is sign up for latest news (I have!). Rumoured to be £55k ($68k USD) but these are rumours only and probably a ‘from’ price i.e. you’ll need to add a nice paint colour etc. Please don’t say there’re on sale when they are 18 months away. Gorgeous car but likely to be sold out in minutes when reservations open.
Roadsters don't sell in the autumn in the UK. It'll need to be on sale by spring, latest summer. And it'll likely face stiff competition by then. The ground-up EV Boxster/Cayman range is expected to be on sale by summer 2024.
@@blademanx That would make sense. Not the best time of year to demo a roadster, but enables early orders for spring delivery. As I think there'll be strong competition by summer, it will be important to be early to gain market traction. However, I suspect that early adopters will lose out to significant price decreases as soon as there is competition. Although, there is also the possibility that the current new crazy 'price order' is here to stay.
This car being now owned by china company emm some would not buy it in USA but many would like this car . Da MG CAR BACK IN DA DAY DID SOLD IN USA . This car MG HERE EV LOOKS AMAZING. Doors go up also wow . 500 plus BHP FPR TOP LEVEL PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT HOIRS POWER NICE . Still da 300 plus base type is good also . Have fun those countries who can buy .
I'm a fan of the channel but I just wanted to suggest you're sending mixed messages about sustainability when you're suggesting people buy sports cars as 2nd cars. I think your electric skateboard makes a much better "pleasure" vehicle ;-)
It's all relative. If someone wants a sportscar then an electric one is certainly more sustainable than a gas car. He isn't the sustainability police. Also, in a two car household with two or more working adults, a skateboard is not going to bring home the groceries, get mom/dad to work, or get the kids to soccer practice.
If you want to talk about sustainability, you need to consider the fact that the average EV pre-loads the environment with the equivalent of 8-9 years of average CO2 emissions compared to the average ICE car! Zero tailpipe emissions does not mean zero emissions nor sustainability. Then there's the fact that there aren't anywhere near enough raw materials in the Earth to convert the world fleet to EVs. And of course there's the questions of sustainability -- environmental damage caused by mining even more very limited natural resources, and the associated ethical and health considerations -- doing so. On top of that there's the need to dramatically increase electricity production and supply, and to do so cleanly. Nuclear would be best, but that's got a bad rep, even though the tech has moved on and it's now safe. Solar and wind may seem great to some but they're environmentally damaging, largely not recyclable, even toxic in the case of solar panels, and powering the world's grid with public solar would take up much of the Earth's available land. And why? Primarily to power EVs, when tailpipe emissions from private ICE cars in actuality constitute only a tiny percentage of the world's CO2 emissions. It doesn't make sense, and it's not environmentally sound nor sustainable. There's no such thing as a free lunch. It's one thing to push for city cars to be EVs and maybe delivery vans for reasons of public health in inner city areas, but we need to be mindful of balance, and follow the real science rather than fake science that's bought and paid bs to satisfy various population control agendas. Sports cars are generally speaking not used as so-called daily drivers. It certainly makes no sense whatsoever to replace ICE cars used primarily at weekends in the summer months with EVs. That said; if they make 'em, many will buy them. Some people will maybe buy them wrongly thinking they're saving the planet, rather than doing the exact opposite. I suspect most will buy them because they're fun and they can, just the same as ICE sports cars. Some will buy an EV to signal their virtue, even though in the future they'll be considered about as virtuous as a religious slave owner. The technology is nowhere at the level of sustainability. Maybe it will become so, but problems tend to only be resolved when acknowledged, and right now far too many people are in denial. Maybe EVs will be the means of mobilizing the majority of the world's population, which in and of itself would be a very good thing, but that doesn't seem to be behind the push for EVs in the West; quite the opposite, in fact. IMO, if you want to encourage a population to be less wasteful and more environmentally conscious, it is to encourage people to commute in city cars designed for that very purpose, rather than wealth signalling vehicles like huge SUVs, and in that sense most people could easily commute in an EV city car. But encouraging the widespread adoption of EVs at this point in time runs totally contrary to the very notion of a climate emergency. However, given that facts and reality are increasingly divergent I see no problem with someone wanting an electric sports car, or families owning multiple vehicles. And if an electric skateboard is what turns you on, go for it, but such is not everyone's idea of pleasure, or fun; certainly not mine. Personally, ignoring the sustainability/environmental issues, I'm interested in the MG Cyberster, but probably not for GBP55K. People should remember that the new ground-up EV Porsche Boxster/Cayman models are also due next year.
@@nigel.w, nobody is going to read your novel on UA-cam, but your very first point (and probably most of the rest) is wrong. An average EV will break even on emissions vs. a gas car somewhere around 5k to 10k miles which is about 4 to 12 months of driving for most people in the US. Nowhere near 8 to 9 years.
AWD with two motors. The base model will have a single motor powering the rear wheels. The base model should have a 0-60mph time of less than 5 secs, which is quite quick, but not by performance EV standards, and certainly not supercar quick.
@@-POISON- it was a narrative. He specifically and clearly said ‘there will be an all wheel drive model…blah blah blah…’ as car reviewers do. None of them EVER only talk about the base model, because the base model won’t be for everyone.
Residual will be dire tho. This is not available in the uk as of 4th April 2024. Its big money for a secondary vehicle and, its an mg. Steeped in negative history here in UK. I'd rather have the Y performance. Additionally, insurance costs in UK for electric cars are astronomical, some electric cars are uninsurable, BYD is having a tough time in UK for insurance. Tesla insurance circa £1000 for experienced drivers, sometimes more!
Truck in this context is an Americanism. Skip the truck bit for UK, Aus, NZ. A truck is a lorry. Ute is simply utility vehicle, without the sports. Back in the day they were only bought by tradespeople. Work utility vehicle. Not sure WUV would catch on, though. People who bought them would end up being called Wuvies. ;)
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Perfectly fine with me. The Viking should have realized what "ute" stood for. Otoh, who knows how many Australians just call it a ute without ever giving the origin of the word a second thought. 🙂
The charging connectors in electric cars are all different in Europe, China, and the USA. The CCS pins in China are in reverse order from the USA and are incompatible! Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m not an electrician! 😂😂😂
I would seriously consider buying this when it’s time to change my lovely and great fun Mini Cooper S E and it will sit nicely on my drive beside my 2023 Defender 90 D250
Love that MG (CN) are getting in and giving people what they are asking for.. all the while Legacy Auto are still scratching their behinds wondering if EV’s will succeed.
Mg China?
EV's won't 'succeed' in the medium to long term unless the politicians get out of the mindset of using them to enrich themselves and their friends. The charging infrastructure, apart from Tesla's supercharger network, is appalling and it's not improving. And what about the energy supply problems? In the UK, we can barely cope with current demand let alone the demands of mass EV charging.
That MG is a beauty
ugly front end though, interioir
We just need oz dollar to rise to 80 USA be better. Or either better against Chinese yen.
I'd get one in a heartbeat
It looks great and actually coming soon
Yes I’d definitely consider it. Very appealing!
Definitely! Waiting for an affordable electric 2-seater for a few years. The single motor would be the version I’d go for
I know an engineer who built it, and he said that in China, it costs less than $40,000 in the most advanced configuration😂
Keep in mind not all countries list prices all inclusive and not all manufacturers list prices the same way. For example in N America the taxes and other fees are not shown on the website. Also Tesla lists its prices including delivery while traditional Auto does not. Delivery can add a grand or two. Taxes can add up to 15%. Fees for auto dealers near me are up to a grand.
Hardly matters, given that the government prevents you from buying them.
Prestige cars are VERY expensive in Australia, both new and used. Way more expensive than in the UK. However, there seems to be an unexplained discrepancy in the comparative price of EVs in Australia and New Zealand, which goes beyond the fact that there are still Government rebates for new EVs in Australia and NZ, whereas they've ended in the UK. I don't know why, but even Teslas are cheaper in Australia and NZ than they are in the UK, and that is after Tesla reduced its prices in the UK.
Tesla did a smart thing in the UK. After having raised its prices significantly, in-line with the very expensive prices of new competitors in the EV segment, it soon after reduced them again, making Tesla comparatively good value. Given Tesla's lead in technology, range, performance, and of course, charging infrastructure, Tesla is now the price leader in the EV segment in the UK.
There is only one brand that significantly undercuts Tesla on price in the UK and that is MG, but the MGs aren't in the same league. Of course, there are other EVs on the market, but I think it's fair to say that MG and Tesla have the largest shares of EV sales in the UK. If you can't afford a Tesla, you are more likely than not buying an MG, and if you need an estate car (wagon), there is only the MG5.
Currently, there is no brand in the EV segment in the UK cheaper than MG, and all the other cheaper than Tesla options are so close to Tesla prices that it doesn't make much sense to buy them. The VW ID range feels cheap and nasty even compared to MG, and the VAG group products all have expensive options. Kia's EV6 is in short supply, and is ultimately priced against the Model Y. Hyundai's Ioniq 5 has had rave reviews, but is also priced against the Model Y. Nissan's new Ariya is more expensive than the Model Y, etc, etc, etc.
And utlimately, it comes down to charging infrastructure. Tesla has it, while all others still don't. Tesla has reduced its prices so that they aren't beaten on price, and they have the supercharger netwwork. Very smart. And the only brand that's selling EVs for significantly less is MG. The offerings between MG and Tesla, either have expensive options, are from new Chinese brands, or have long wait times.
Here in the UK, it seems as if there's now a lot of choice in the EV segment, especially for crossovers, but given the general lack of infrastructure, Tesla remains the compelling choice. Even without the supercharger network, Tesla is price competitive, and when you consider they have leading technology, range and performance, they are price leaders. The only thing that lets Tesla down is its reputation for poor build quality. And the reviews of the Model Y stated the ride was too hard, which has apparently been addressed.
Anyway, I've lived in the US, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Europe and the Middle East, and average cars in the US were by far the cheapest, although that was some time ago. Of course, the US hasn't traditionally had a significant sub-compact market, so the cheapest cars are sold elsewhere. And now we have really cheap cars being sold in the emerging markets, particularly in Asia. There also used to be countries in Europe that were significantly cheaper than the UK, and some people even ordered right-hand drive cars from European dealers and imported them, but no longer. If you look at the prices of European cars in the US, they are significantly cheaper in the UK, both new and used. Maybe new prices of some cars are a little lower in Europe than in the UK, but if you look at used prices that's not the case. In Europe, used prices are relatively high and the average miles (kilometres) covered is extremely high compared to cars in the UK.
Overall, the UK is in fact one of the cheaper car markets. And you also have to consider the cost of ownership, particularly maintenance. The UK has a lot of marque specialists offering expertise and competitive labour rates, and there's generally good availability of parts and often multiple suppliers. In New Zealand, for instance, that's not the case. In many countries, if you buy anything remotely special, it's significantly more expensive to buy and also to maintain. There may well be only one importer/dealer in the country and only one service centre. The technicians may have lower expertise. Often, they haven't been on all the factory courses, or you have one trained technician leading a workshop where none of the other mechanics have any specialist marque training or any training with a comparable marque. Trying to keep even a very ordinary car well-maintained can be essentially impossible in some countries where the average mechanic is a 'cowboy'.
Lastly, in addition to what RCdiy said, some countries have a culture of dealers charging more than MSRP, commonly termed overs. That hasn't really been a thing in the UK, although Covid resulted in many delivery mileage 'used' vehicles being marketed for overs. However, the market in recent weeks appears to recovering, with more used cars up for sale since Covid, meaning new cars are now arriving in greater numbers, and new car sales numbers, however they are calculated, back that up. And the amount of overs being asked, even for special cars, is also dropping quite quickly.
Best MG sports car since the MGA-Twin Cam.
It's not an MG thought is it. I've stuck RR badge on my fiesta, but it's still a Ford.
It's a SAIC
(let's do half union jack rear lights to keep the illusion going).
Fantastic Halo vehicle. Not a practical day to day runner, but great as a replacement of that old 2 door drop top in your garage. Its a stand out.
Years ago I owned an MG Midget and later an MGB. YE, for sure, I'd buy one to put beside the Tesla Model 3 but I live in the interesting car desert of the USA
i have an MG4 and its the best car i ever had. love the design and power of MG
Mazda is sooooo missing the boat by not offering an EV Miata IMO.
Aged - Mazda is missing out on EVs, period. Like so many of the Japanese car manufacturers.
They know EXACTLY what they're doing. EV tech is a money losing enterprise that only exists because of government (taxpayer) subsidies.
Im glad they're in no rush to electrify.
Correct
What about that car carrier burning up in the North Sea? EVs are great to start a car-b-que. 😎
I do like the MG Cyberster, but I still can't afford one mate
As if. Tickle Tickle, we know you are rich.
Car is stunning,
cant agree that its cheap, last year promotions were indicating £30000.
Do i want one, you bet, will they take my MG TF in part exchange
I love this car Wow
Absolutely stunning, amazing, stonking, adorable, refined, beautiful, glamorous, glorious,😊
I think this time is the one of the handful occasions Im grateful this car is not available in Canada. Im sure if it does, it will blow a big hole on my financial planning
I know an engineer who built it, and he said that in China, it costs less than $40,000 in the most advanced configuration
I was originally expecting to replace my current Model S with a new one before the engine/battery warranty runs out, but that's been scuppered by the RHD debacle, and you know what? I'm a single guy, I might just go now the MG route - that looks bloody good to me.
If it handles as well as it looks on a track I’d be very interested indeed. Just signed up in 🇬🇧
it'll be heavy but will stick to the road really well as the weight is spread across the car and at the base
Well done MG. Love the Cyberster and cant wait to do a test drive.
I want to believe MG held their sports team intact because this is MG's heritage - accessible sport cars.
Nic e looking car that reminds me of the original Tesla/Lotus Roadster.
I'm going to get one of these, looks really nice. It is hardly cheap though, starting at over £50k!
I know one of the engineers who built it, and he says it costs less than $50,000 in China😂
My 1960 Midget (continental tire mount on back and a few factory upgrades) got 117 mph on highway. I think it would be time I got an improved version. Oh yes. The US. I'll see about that.
I live in Norway and we are definitely considering as 2nd car to our model Y. One caveat, and that’s the size. Unlike traditional Mg sports cars that were small this is huge - more or less a model Y footprint. And my garage may struggle to have space for both. Hmmm. Well we will see.
Hi Sam, yes I would love to own one of these.
Good start. Now for MG to take out the Mazda Miata that took out MG. Yeah, a true 2 seater sports car like a Miata or, the original MGB etc. Mazda might be sweating right about now--revenge of the MG. About that Ute thing...
Hi Sam,
Thank you.
If you start comparing performance times, this is cheap, try GT3 Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini to get similar times YIKES!!!
Great video Sam, what about the Neta Speedster convertible will that ever come to fruition and be exported to Europe/UK etc. Keep up the great work 😀🙌
Doesn't seem available in Canada. I would buy one if it was. We seem to be 'protected' from Chinese cars here as they are in the US.
Protected from Chinese cars? Actually missing out on. What a pity. The US is rather betting on Vinfast.
I'd so love one it looks great especially in red or electric blue
It was called a UTE because it was originally a Utility Vehicle and then shortened to just Ute. :)
In the UK, next to nobody would buy a Cyberstar plus Tesla for two car family. They buy one electric and the ICE for travelling any distance and it will always be that way unless they quadruple the range on electric cars
You could drive almost anywhere in the UK on 1 charge and there are fast chargers all over the place if you even need one. It's an island so it's not like they are going on super long road trips.
Agreed - if you drive beyond currently available range I’d question whether a driving licence is appropriate if you’re not planning to stop for a break regardless of car type. I do however agree that charging infrastructure is still a major issue here.
@@CL-gq3noGosh no, you don't understand the UK mentality.
The must have requirement for any EV to be remotely considered useable is that it must do the "standard commute" which is defined as:-
Lands End to John O'Groats (i.e. the length of the country), it must do this both ways, without stopping, towing a caravan, with the wipers, lights and heating on in the middle of winter, fully laden and in under 18 hours.
Otherwise an EV is utterly useless.
@@CL-gq3no does fast chargers refill the car in 2-3 minutes?
@@CL-gq3no Yes I live in the centre of the UK, if I drove 300 miles I would be in the sea.
Looks amazing. The small engine would be fine for me - finally it has too much power for me. But fast charging, range and a good boot space are essential for me.
MG going back to it's roots
Speaking as an ex MGA owner
I can tell you are excited, I’m sure you are talking faster than usual! You sound pumped!
Will be a winner once distance between charges reches 500 miles plus.
Basically you're paying a lot for a beautiful design which will have the same components as the majority of bland looking EV's.
Let us all reliability is great, if so this will be a game changer and open the market for many other sporty EV's...
I never ever thought id see the day when an MG totally outshined a jag and ive owned an mg tc and an mg b 😁
I wouldn't go quite that far, but the Cyberster could be somewhat of a disruptor. I doubt Porsche expected MG to launch such a car with the option of well in excess of 500bhp. I would think that's making them rethink the power options for the upcoming Boxster/Cayman EVs.
@@nigel.w mg is only the beginning.... soon i'll expect merc and byd will do an AMG ev sports car
zs + cyberstar = Audi etron gt ( but with mg you get a 7yr warrenty)
It’s attractive, but sports car people are going to want known good car reviewers to have a look and drive first. Has to be sporty not just slick looking.
That said, it it’s not too heavy and has good handling it’d absolutely sell in the US.
MG not bothered about North America. US doesn't want Chinese's cars
Some cars sell on looks alone
Wow 🎉 they could sell tons of these in the U.S. 😢 it’s a shame we can’t get many of these terrific EVs in the states.
yout country and most people there want to decouple from china....
Maybe if they asked politely?🤔
Can't pass the safety standards.
@@aceroadholder2185 Safety standards in US 😂....
@@aceroadholder2185
No, it's trucks that don't have to pass the strict safety standards but this will be a very safe car
What an awesome look, other than the rear light bar. I hate light bars and too many EVs are incorporating it in their design. UGLY!
Would definitely buy it if launched in india without heavy import duties.
Really smart looking car!
I love the car 😊
I had two MGs with wire wheels in the early 1970's-- a Midget, and then a few years later, an MGB. Really fun and sporty.
I restored an MGB Roadster in my late teens. I still have it, but it has been sitting in the garden awaiting another restoration for years! But as you say, great fun.
I almost bought a MGB in 1978 but was afraid I would lose my Driver's license lol So I Purchased a Mercury Cougar XR7 instead
I love that MG had the guts to make an actual fun car! Even a new ICE roadster would be a surprise but it is so impressive to produce this. Some fun in the EV market is badly needed, not just another fast accelerating crossover.
The Cyberster will do a lot of damage against Aston Martins, Corvettes and Jaguar F-type. It looks incredible
I doubt it, but the F-Type is dead already; Jaguar will soon be an EV-only brand.
@@nigel.w i doubt Tata has much EV tech or experience...
@@fatdoi003 Presumably Jaguar will build on the experience/expertise it gained with the I-Pace. I don't know how much EV tech/experience Tata has, but they have the money to buy that in if they want to, and I don't think it makes much sense for a small company like Jaguar to develop EV tech by itself.
IMO, it would be smart if Jaguar could simply form a joint partnership with Tesla and re-clothe Tesla's platforms and maybe tweak suspension and handling to be more Jag-like. I think that kind of marriage would actually work well for both companies. However, Tesla would probably not want Tata involved, even if it was prepared to to deal with Jaguar.
@@fatdoi003 jaguar have the i-pace on sale now.
@@kevinnicholson7722 is i pace a running success? last.time i can remember it's almost a forgotten car without updates or any follow up models...
We get ripped off in the U.K. with Tax on new Cars. The whole government thought up they wanted less Cars on the road and doing everything to put off anyone thinking about running a Car. If we had American prices for the Model 3 one would be on the drive here in Scotland. The MG will sell like hot cakes, second hand for £30k in a few years will do very nicely. Sadly it’s a weekend toy with little to no room for storage. I have one rule with my Cars it has to take a suitcase.
Shame that it’s so cold there. Aussies just want an overnight bag with a swimsuit and a toothbrush.🤔
What makes you think it wont take a suitcase.
I have already placed a $500 deposit with my local MG dealer. Melbourne MG. They said they have no idea when the Cybester will arrive and of course no pricing - but I’m hoping to be one of the first Aussie owners.
In Thailand cars are cheaper because it,s just across the border from china so shipping cost is lower.
😊can't wait to see them on the road
I would definitely like to look at one (like going to an art gallery) - but buy one? too much $ - I pretty much walk (or bike) now -cars just too expensive
The Assie Ute mabye should have a bigger battery. How far is it from the outback to anywhere else ?
Other than that, $17,400 U.S.dollars is maybe less than any worthwhile new vehicle I know about, now. Love the Cyberster. You right-hand drivers got lucky this time. Enjoy.
I know a few farms where it won’t have the range to get to the front gate, but people on those farms use planes to pick up their mail.😂 small farms in coastal areas will like them as they can easily be charged from solar panels and won’t disturb livestock.🤔🦘
Ute - Utility Vehicle - my dad worked in the Snowy Mountain scheme in the 60s
Love to see new enticing electric cars. Having said that, autonomy will soon be a must have feature/benefit.
I am looking forward to this vehicle the moment I laid eyes on it. But the last thing I do need from a roadster is to be the quickest car. It's purpose is to have fun on the road and enjoy the trip. And enjoy the jealous looks from bystanders every time you park that beauty 😂
Yes, considering it. Mostly interested in the wind noise on the freeway, that might be a dealbraker for me. Also not liking they steering wheel.
You won't have to have the yoke; it's an option.
I want that mg
Agree it’s a pretty car. Love that it’s a convertible. But… safety rating? Sorry to be a buzzkill, but it’ll be interesting to see how that comes in.
It will be 5 star, just like MGs other cars
Also Ute short for utility vehicle or utility coupe, more emphasis on storage capacity. So says google.
I have wondered just never looked up until now 😂
I really want a drop-top EV for my next vehicle, but nothing other than this MG appears doable (price-wise). Too bad no plans to sell in in US. Some enterprising company will eventually sell a sub $60K convertible with nice specs in the US. I will be in the market for one beginning in 2026 (about when my Honda Fit will have 170k miles).
I know one of the engineers who built it, and he says it costs less than $50,000 in China😂
55,000 for a MG Nope, 40 to 45,000 maybe take a risk
I think the base model (fully loaded) needs to be under the GBP40K tax level. Most British people are big time brand snobs; certainly those that can afford such cars new. And next year there'll be the new EV Boxster/Cayman range, which I'd expect to start circa 55K, certainly sub-60K. Maybe it'll be launched at a much higher price than it ends up selling for. One thing's for sure, they'll be much cheaper than a Boxster when three years old. That'll probably be the time to consider one if indeed they are considered to be any good. They'll have to be more than just quick in a straight line. And the build quality and materials quality will also have to be good to retain value. Of course, when they're three years old, the technology will be old hat. EVs looked to be holding their prices until a couple of months ago when prices dropped dramatically. You can now get a Tesla Model 3 Performance, which actually drives rather well, for less than half the new price with less than 30k miles. The pre-facelift MG EVs are also available with less than 30k miles for circa half the price of a new one. Even the Porsche Taycan is not holding its prices. Whereas, the 981 Boxster S, now as old as 11 years, has retained circa 3/4 of its price when new. Will EV technology move on to a point where it doesn't advance rapidly? I don't know. But for the foreseeable future, I think EVs are going to depreciate almost as fast as computers and cellphones, as those that can afford them in the first place will want the latest tech.
A 7 year warranty certainly helps with any risk!
@@jimmyh6601 not when the customer service is non existant. So will either ignore the problems or wiggle out of all of them
Problem with UK and EU is the combined import duty and VAT/Sales Tax. Typically, about 30% in total. Import 10%, the rest VAT and in some EU countries 25-27% ! Luxembourg only 16%.
Prestige brands in Australia are way more expensive, both new and used. However, there appears to be a discrepancy for EVs.
I'd park this in my garage next to my Holden Commodore.
I owned too many bogan mobiles myself that I can’t count.
I wish I had a two car garage.🤔
Lovely and I'd hope the depreciation wouldn't be too high on this either.
Most certainly gonna buy it ❤
Sam,now only 5k to go before 150k. Getting very close! 👍
I have an MGF VVC and a Tesla Model 3 Performance... The MG Cyberster (awful name... Make it MG E) if everything goes well will be in my garage
I’m envious
Maybe I should sell my recently purchased MG4 SE Long Range for £29,000
I have been waiting over 30years for the MG to be over here in the USA. I would move to Mars to get this version.
Just move to the UK, you would be very welcome, and you won't need any guns😊
@jimmyh6601 I actually lived there for 3 years as the first Yank to ever trade in all three Commodity Exchanges in the early 80's. I love the sport MG back then too. I don't believe in Guns by the way.
I traded in the Cereal House near Tower Hill. I traded in Cocoa Exchange.
Remember that car prices in the UK, by law are “on the road” prices. The price includes all taxes, number plates, delivery, VAT, The first year’s road tax, everything in fact except the car insurance and fuel, having said that most dealers include a tank of fuel or the car pre-charged.
That’s a very consumer friendly regulation, makes comparison between dealers & vehicles easy.
@@radart6037 It was done about 35 years ago. It was a nightmare before that! Bottom line is you can’t directly compare US prices with UK prices. Also UK cars are often higher spec, even Tesla’s have improved alarm sensors and other brands UK is usually higher spec, even for the same model e.g. Alloy wheels.
yep, I would consider one for my 70th birthday when the price may come down a bit...but then, I would be too old to drive this, right?
Probably, at 70 you'll still be okay. At 75, it may be a problem. But we all age differently.
Once we get past the 'everyone wants an SUV or a truck' we should start to see a lot more of this sort of thing.
Hey Sam!
I'd wonder if a deal could be made with MG. "Here's prime land for a gigafactory. We'll grease the skids for passing permits for radical vertical integration from mining & refining to chips. motors, cells, & batteries."
I get that Australia isn't' tier 1 in terms of market size. They're not out of the game either. The addressable market is large enough for a manufacturer to stake it out. MG moves in, or BYD, or Tesla even, build their righthand drive units & replacement-repair parts plant there and they will cash in!.
Our relationships with autos is changing. One new feature will be around how they will keep their value. People will hold on to their autos longer and expect OTA updates & drop in upgradeability standard, albeit as a service and add ons.
As the model Y was mentioned, it would be nice if we could hear something about Sandy Munro's finding that the structural battery back has zero reparability. In the UK this is apparently having major implications with insurance as even minor damage can lead to a complete write off.
Good looking car. Hopefully they get rid of the scissor doors, or make them optional. Looks like they're looking to grab market share from the Porsche Boxster. It looks like the lovechild of a Boxster ( front) and F type ( rear). I'm looking to get a convertible soon, and an electric one would be awesome. Hopefully we'll get one here in the States soon
Not easy to find even a motor cycle that will surpass those specs at a cheaper price. Can still be done without pyrotechnics, by all means, but it's not easy.
MG is drop-dead gorgeous. Same goes for the latest electric Audi's. Tesla's look like souped 1990's Chrysler Neons Neons.
Absolutely!
So almost an ev Mx5 hehe. Does look amazing. If 70k here in aus, be an easy sell
In Aus, yes, but in the UK it'll be a brave person who buys one over a comparatively-priced Porsche Boxster. I don't understand what Sam is saying about UK prices. Maybe he's just talking about EV prices? But UK prices of prestige brands are way lower than in Aus, both new and used.
@@nigel.w but $70k ain’t that prestigious pricing now in Australia. That like high Spec Tiguan money, or mid spec ford ranger.
@@TheMelbournelad That wasn't what I was saying. True prestige cars are very much more expensive in Australia than in the UK. Ordinary cars new are somewhat more expensive, except EVs. Basically Sam is wrong in general about UK car prices, but he's right when it comes to sub-premium EVs. One reason is that Oz still has Govt incentives. But I think there's more to it than just that. Otherwise, IMO the Aussie auto scene is a rip-off. It's more expensive than even NZ.
Nice car but 60.000 is too expensive if you look at the Neta GT it costs 30,000 dollar almost the same car
Yeah... but Neta is not coming to Australia anytime soon, right? Same can be said to the Nio, Xpeng, Li, Hiphi, Zeeker and Link&Co. They are heading to the Europe first, because it is not really a sensible decision to set up expensive influences at a vast country which has it's total population lower than the city of Shanghai.
that's china price, you do have to pay people to bring it and sell it in your country. doubling the china price is about right.
30k in Europe? That would be amazing. But that's not going to happen. Get the Neta to Europe, including the EU Homologation process, transport costs, raising the price because "it goes to Europe and the Europeans shall pay more", import taxes and a whole variety of additional taxes as well, and you will see the Neta getting pretty much the same price tag as the Cyberster.
@@challenger2205 oke
What others have said, plus, IMO the Cyberster looks better. Also, MG has brand recognition, and has also established itself as being well-supported by its dealer network. IMO, MG has the best chance of any Chinese-made brand to be successful in the UK, Australia, etc. Given the prices in Australia for premium brands, it probably stands a better chance there of being a success than in the UK, where one would expect the new Boxster/Cayman EVs to not be much more money.
yewt is 'Ute' short for Utility vehicle only called that in Australia to my knowledge. usually a converted medium sized car design. Lovely vehicle, wouldn't mind one at all.
Ute also used in New Zealand. Traditionally speaking, to call any kind of car a truck would be confusing.
I certainly want a Cyberster.
It looks like a Vette and The Mach 5 had a baby. I want one.
Sam, cars in the UK were among the cheapest in Europe. Or at least it was like that before Brexit. Maybe things have changed now 🧐
If you want to look at scary prices check powerful ICE cars in Norway or the Netherlands 😂
I think Sam is talking about EV prices. Prestige ICE cars are way more expensive in Australia, both new and used, but EVs are cheaper, for whatever reason. One reason is that they still have Government incentives.
Eh? No they weren't! Cars in the UK have always been expensive compared to mainland Europe. There were even companies a few decades ago that did personal imports for you because buying in Germany or Belgium was so much cheaper.
Very nice...maybe this will light a fire under Tesla to reintroduce the Roadster...
The Tesla Roasdster has a projected price exceeding US$200K.
@@nigel.w Regardless of price - this is a market Tesla will need to enter eventually..."Model 2" is obviously the priority - but I see no reason they can't work towards that and the roadster simultaneously...plus there are several people that earned one through referrals that Tesla eventually needs to pay off...
Good video!
The Viking buys every EV that comes out. 😅
Sam, they are NOT on sale in the UK - likely to be Autumn (Fall) 2024 at the earliest. All you can do is sign up for latest news (I have!). Rumoured to be £55k ($68k USD) but these are rumours only and probably a ‘from’ price i.e. you’ll need to add a nice paint colour etc. Please don’t say there’re on sale when they are 18 months away.
Gorgeous car but likely to be sold out in minutes when reservations open.
Roadsters don't sell in the autumn in the UK. It'll need to be on sale by spring, latest summer. And it'll likely face stiff competition by then. The ground-up EV Boxster/Cayman range is expected to be on sale by summer 2024.
MG sales said they could have a demo car by December. Ready for sale early 2024. Its been testing for over a year
@@blademanx That would make sense. Not the best time of year to demo a roadster, but enables early orders for spring delivery. As I think there'll be strong competition by summer, it will be important to be early to gain market traction. However, I suspect that early adopters will lose out to significant price decreases as soon as there is competition. Although, there is also the possibility that the current new crazy 'price order' is here to stay.
This car being now owned by china company emm some would not buy it in USA but many would like this car . Da MG CAR BACK IN DA DAY DID SOLD IN USA . This car MG HERE EV LOOKS AMAZING. Doors go up also wow . 500 plus BHP FPR TOP LEVEL PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT HOIRS POWER NICE . Still da 300 plus base type is good also . Have fun those countries who can buy .
Selling like Hot cakes !
Great idea but why are we getting rinsed on the price? If the MG5 EV Long range starts at 31k, the MG4 at 27K why the extra 24k+ for the Cyberstar??
Ill probably get it ex demo or used. Save 10k
A ute is short for utility vehicle
Did ya forget to link the video on the Electric UV?
I'm a fan of the channel but I just wanted to suggest you're sending mixed messages about sustainability when you're suggesting people buy sports cars as 2nd cars. I think your electric skateboard makes a much better "pleasure" vehicle ;-)
It's all relative. If someone wants a sportscar then an electric one is certainly more sustainable than a gas car. He isn't the sustainability police. Also, in a two car household with two or more working adults, a skateboard is not going to bring home the groceries, get mom/dad to work, or get the kids to soccer practice.
If you want to talk about sustainability, you need to consider the fact that the average EV pre-loads the environment with the equivalent of 8-9 years of average CO2 emissions compared to the average ICE car! Zero tailpipe emissions does not mean zero emissions nor sustainability.
Then there's the fact that there aren't anywhere near enough raw materials in the Earth to convert the world fleet to EVs. And of course there's the questions of sustainability -- environmental damage caused by mining even more very limited natural resources, and the associated ethical and health considerations -- doing so.
On top of that there's the need to dramatically increase electricity production and supply, and to do so cleanly. Nuclear would be best, but that's got a bad rep, even though the tech has moved on and it's now safe. Solar and wind may seem great to some but they're environmentally damaging, largely not recyclable, even toxic in the case of solar panels, and powering the world's grid with public solar would take up much of the Earth's available land. And why? Primarily to power EVs, when tailpipe emissions from private ICE cars in actuality constitute only a tiny percentage of the world's CO2 emissions.
It doesn't make sense, and it's not environmentally sound nor sustainable.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. It's one thing to push for city cars to be EVs and maybe delivery vans for reasons of public health in inner city areas, but we need to be mindful of balance, and follow the real science rather than fake science that's bought and paid bs to satisfy various population control agendas.
Sports cars are generally speaking not used as so-called daily drivers. It certainly makes no sense whatsoever to replace ICE cars used primarily at weekends in the summer months with EVs.
That said; if they make 'em, many will buy them. Some people will maybe buy them wrongly thinking they're saving the planet, rather than doing the exact opposite. I suspect most will buy them because they're fun and they can, just the same as ICE sports cars. Some will buy an EV to signal their virtue, even though in the future they'll be considered about as virtuous as a religious slave owner.
The technology is nowhere at the level of sustainability. Maybe it will become so, but problems tend to only be resolved when acknowledged, and right now far too many people are in denial. Maybe EVs will be the means of mobilizing the majority of the world's population, which in and of itself would be a very good thing, but that doesn't seem to be behind the push for EVs in the West; quite the opposite, in fact.
IMO, if you want to encourage a population to be less wasteful and more environmentally conscious, it is to encourage people to commute in city cars designed for that very purpose, rather than wealth signalling vehicles like huge SUVs, and in that sense most people could easily commute in an EV city car. But encouraging the widespread adoption of EVs at this point in time runs totally contrary to the very notion of a climate emergency.
However, given that facts and reality are increasingly divergent I see no problem with someone wanting an electric sports car, or families owning multiple vehicles. And if an electric skateboard is what turns you on, go for it, but such is not everyone's idea of pleasure, or fun; certainly not mine.
Personally, ignoring the sustainability/environmental issues, I'm interested in the MG Cyberster, but probably not for GBP55K. People should remember that the new ground-up EV Porsche Boxster/Cayman models are also due next year.
@@nigel.w, nobody is going to read your novel on UA-cam, but your very first point (and probably most of the rest) is wrong. An average EV will break even on emissions vs. a gas car somewhere around 5k to 10k miles which is about 4 to 12 months of driving for most people in the US. Nowhere near 8 to 9 years.
@@CL-gq3no You are VERY wrong! Except maybe that nobody is going to read my "novel" on UA-cam.
@@nigel.w i read it!. And thought you made some good points
So, the base model will do 0 to 60 mph in less than 3 seconds?
No. The all wheel drive version will do that, not the base model.
AWD with two motors. The base model will have a single motor powering the rear wheels. The base model should have a 0-60mph time of less than 5 secs, which is quite quick, but not by performance EV standards, and certainly not supercar quick.
@@aadamileekennedy2754 So what was the point of talking about sub 3 second performance while referencing the base model price?
@@-POISON- it was a narrative. He specifically and clearly said ‘there will be an all wheel drive model…blah blah blah…’ as car reviewers do. None of them EVER only talk about the base model, because the base model won’t be for everyone.
@@aadamileekennedy2754 No. At 4:44 he specifically mentions that he cannot think of any other car that can do 0-60 under 3 seconds for $57K.
Residual will be dire tho. This is not available in the uk as of 4th April 2024. Its big money for a secondary vehicle and, its an mg. Steeped in negative history here in UK. I'd rather have the Y performance. Additionally, insurance costs in UK for electric cars are astronomical, some electric cars are uninsurable, BYD is having a tough time in UK for insurance. Tesla insurance circa £1000 for experienced drivers, sometimes more!
"I don't know why why call them utes"
Come on, that has to be utility truck.
Truck in this context is an Americanism. Skip the truck bit for UK, Aus, NZ. A truck is a lorry. Ute is simply utility vehicle, without the sports. Back in the day they were only bought by tradespeople. Work utility vehicle.
Not sure WUV would catch on, though. People who bought them would end up being called Wuvies. ;)
Hey Stef , Nige , in Oz we like to shorten our words if we can .🇦🇺😂
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Perfectly fine with me. The Viking should have realized what "ute" stood for. Otoh, who knows how many Australians just call it a ute without ever giving the origin of the word a second thought. 🙂
The charging connectors in electric cars are all different in Europe, China, and the USA. The CCS pins in China are in reverse order from the USA and are incompatible! Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m not an electrician! 😂😂😂