Oral History on security lapses on 11/22/63 and more- the limo slowed almost to a stop; the press photographers flatbed truck was cancelled at the last moment and more revealed.
Sir, your work is very important. I was 9 in 1963, and have vivid memories of the coverage. I have noted more and more the efforts to re-write history and bury facts, which causes me great concern. Keep going, please!
Veteran driver Wil Greer trained to accelerate out of harm’s way. Preformed the opposite by bringing the car to a virtual stop. He is undoubtedly complicit in the execution of President Kennedy,thereby implicating the Secret Service by not taking any action towards Greer or Kellerman
Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon wanted JFK dead to protect his Congolese mining investments. Ditto with Rockefellers and Allen Dulles. Also why Patrice Lumumba and Dag Hammarskjold had been assassinated earlier. Greer was an Irish born Irish Methodist and didn't particularly like Irish Catholics. His son admitted Greer didn't like JFK. To get another driver out of the way and put Greer into the driver's seat for Dealey Plaza, on Oct. 14, 1963 Secret Service Agent Tom Shipman was poisoned at Camp David. JFK's doctor Adm. Burkley told Shipman's widow to do no autopsy and to bury him fast. Later Burkley told Humes to fake the JFK autopsy, stole the Harper Fragment of skull, and lied about JFK's body at the autopsy being in the same condition it was when it left Parkland. In reality, Humes had butchered JFK's skull (downstairs at Bethesda) to combine 6 bullet holes into one big butchery hole explained by one bullet. The crunching and sawing to do this was seen by embalmer Tom Robinson and Navy technician Ed Reed.
There has to be some record - written, oral testamony, something to tell us WHO gave the cancelation order for that flatbed news truck. Someone, the driver, one of the press guys, someone had to receive that directive and convey it to all involved in that truck's disappearance from it's customary function. How has that pearson not been found and questioned? Quality footage of the hit taken from one car in front Kennedy's limo would be very inconvenient for the coup plotters. Did no one focus on this?
@Blueqr7qe OK, Vince, I just watched your best Secret Service Presentation video - looks like you pointed the finger pretty squarely at the Secret Service for these failures. Thank you for narrowing that down. Is there any paperwork that names the names of the men most responsible for those decisions?
@@Blue-qr7qe Who planned the motorcade route? Who took the body out of Texas (illegally)? The Secret Service wasn't alone in planning this event, the Whitehouse was involved too. Supposedly there were assassination threats made against JFK around that time, you'd think they would have canceled the Presidential parade through Dallas considering how impossible it would be to secure the motorcade route. Despite what Olive Stone had Donald Sutherland say in his JFK film, the Secret Service never had the manpower to make a motorcade route of that length, with that many overlooking building secure. They would have needed an army of agents. Nobody ever seems to consider the possibility that the Presidential staff would have to be involved in all of this.
@@Chicken_Little_Syndrome Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon wanted JFK dead to protect his Congolese mining investments. Ditto with Rockefellers and Allen Dulles. Also why Patrice Lumumba and Dag Hammarskjold had been assassinated earlier. Greer was an Irish born Irish Methodist and didn't particularly like Irish Catholics. His son admitted Greer didn't like JFK. To get another driver out of the way and put Greer into the driver's seat for Dealey Plaza, on Oct. 14, 1963 Secret Service Agent Tom Shipman was poisoned at Camp David. JFK's doctor Adm. Burkley told Shipman's widow to do no autopsy and to bury him fast. Later Burkley told Humes to fake the JFK autopsy, stole the Harper Fragment of skull, and lied about JFK's body at the autopsy being in the same condition it was when it left Parkland. In reality, Humes had butchered JFK's skull (downstairs at Bethesda) to combine 6 bullet holes into one big butchery hole explained by one bullet. The crunching and sawing to do this was seen by embalmer Tom Robinson and Navy technician Ed Reed.
It's a good point. Much like, why with the most important case of the century, did they not record even a minute of testimony of the accused Oswald on tape when they had a whole two days in which to do so? Also, why were the empty coke bottles in the lunch room of the TSBD not checked for Oswald's finger prints along with the dregs of coke being viscosity tested for time lapse? This would've been basic forensics in the 1960's. Compact cassettes were out the previous year already in Nov 1963, and even lots of kids had reel to reel tape recorders, which were already becoming obsolete... But apparently no recording or Oswald's interviews. WTF?
Never forget greer was a bigoted northern Irish protestant ... Kennedy from a southern Irish Catholic backround ... greer would have been delighted to play his part.
"Bye guys!! I'm going to lunch!! Have a good trip!" is clearly not at all what Rybka's body language was saying. There's not a person alive who wouldn't look at that video footage and determine that Rybka was clearly asking, "what the fuck?!" This is one of those examples where a person who is lying attempts to gaslight the other person, telling them something that is meant to make them question their own perception of reality. This behavior is one of the defining characteristics of people with narcissistic personality disorder. I don't know if Clint suffers from NPD, but he's batshit crazy if he thinks he can convince people that Rybka was wishing everybody well as he broke for lunch.
"Bang"..."Bang Bang". Don't know how many people reported the bang...bang bang firing cadence. You just can't do that with a solo bolt action rifle folks. Warren Comm didn't want to talk about that so much.
Clint Hill didn’t like the three shot cadence at the end of the clip, that isn’t possible with a bolt action rifle. The whole official version stinks to high heaven. Secret Service paved the way for a turkey shoot.
re: the question of what if Greer has stepped on the gas after the 1st shot would JFK still be alive? Given Dallas was the 3rd attempt at killing him just in November (!), I say no.
Two shooters firing from pergola. (Tramps). Found in railway car. Lee Bowers must have seen those Tramps leaving the scene and getting into the railway car. And we know what happened to him.
@@ACCOD make sense of it all ? If Zap did not report what he saw the shooters must have been Irwin Schwartz and Robert Surrey. And they see in Zap film him jump during the shots , well you would jump with someone shooting a Mauser less than 15 feet in back of you !
@@jimmywilkinson9190 There might have been shooters in back of Zapruder, but no bullet from that location matches any of JFK's wounds. So if they got off a shot it missed.
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Zapruder cleared everybody out of his Dal-Tex offices fifth and sixth floor between 11am and noon on Nov. 22. That so Assassination Command Central could be set up there beginning 12:05 with spotters, radios, rifles, telephones, and hand signals to Central Records across Elm and to TSBD across Houston. From his office, Zapruder had a perfect spot to film JFK coming onto Houston, all the way down Houston, turning the lazy corner, and all the way down Elm. He had to do unnecessary work to go down Elm, have himself propped up by his secretary, risk breaking his neck, and get less than half of the transit time on film. How did he know for the film to run out just as JFK disappeared into the triple underpass? Why was he using an old roll of film full of junk, when a presidential parade merits a fresh roll of film at a minimum. Babushka Lady knew where to stand as back up in case Zapruder's camera failed. Her film (she didn't step forward for fame and fortune since she was working for the CIA) ended up at Ft. Bragg's CIA/Army sniper assassination school for the Green Berets, where it was seen by Dan Marvin. The instructor said it was a good example of how to do an urban sniper assassination. Later the CIA asked Dan Marvin to kill Lt. Cmdr. William Bruce Pitzer, who had untampered film of the JFK autopsy and needed to be silenced. Dan Marvin declined but another assassin didn't.
Oral History on security lapses on 11/22/63 and more- the limo slowed almost to a stop; the press photographers flatbed truck was cancelled at the last moment and more revealed.
Sir, your work is very important. I was 9 in 1963, and have vivid memories of the coverage. I have noted more and more the efforts to re-write history and bury facts, which causes me great concern. Keep going, please!
Another gem...Mary Woodward nailed it
Veteran driver Wil Greer trained to accelerate out of harm’s way. Preformed the opposite by bringing the car to a virtual stop. He is undoubtedly complicit in the execution of President Kennedy,thereby implicating the Secret Service by not taking any action towards Greer or Kellerman
Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon wanted JFK dead to protect his Congolese mining investments. Ditto with Rockefellers and Allen Dulles. Also why Patrice Lumumba and Dag Hammarskjold had been assassinated earlier. Greer was an Irish born Irish Methodist and didn't particularly like Irish Catholics. His son admitted Greer didn't like JFK. To get another driver out of the way and put Greer into the driver's seat for Dealey Plaza, on Oct. 14, 1963 Secret Service Agent Tom Shipman was poisoned at Camp David. JFK's doctor Adm. Burkley told Shipman's widow to do no autopsy and to bury him fast. Later Burkley told Humes to fake the JFK autopsy, stole the Harper Fragment of skull, and lied about JFK's body at the autopsy being in the same condition it was when it left Parkland. In reality, Humes had butchered JFK's skull (downstairs at Bethesda) to combine 6 bullet holes into one big butchery hole explained by one bullet. The crunching and sawing to do this was seen by embalmer Tom Robinson and Navy technician Ed Reed.
In Ireland, they think Greer slowed down on purpose. Greer was an Orangist anti-Catholic.
@@dianeschumacher6639 Eyewitnesses said that car slowed to a halt. Zapruda film never depicts that and should have. Another element to the cover up
thank you Vince
We appreciate you so much. Every time you say you’re out of content, I know it isn’t true!
Why the car stopped, shows the conspiracy, first sound that car should have accelerated, then asked questions, not the opposite…
He stopped for a reason. It wasn’t “instinct” or “ training”
There has to be some record - written, oral testamony, something to tell us WHO gave the cancelation order for that flatbed news truck. Someone, the driver, one of the press guys, someone had to receive that directive and convey it to all involved in that truck's disappearance from it's customary function. How has that pearson not been found and questioned?
Quality footage of the hit taken from one car in front Kennedy's limo would be very inconvenient for the coup plotters.
Did no one focus on this?
@Blueqr7qe
OK, Vince, I just watched your best Secret Service Presentation video - looks like you pointed the finger pretty squarely at the Secret Service for these failures. Thank you for narrowing that down. Is there any paperwork that names the names of the men most responsible for those decisions?
@@Blue-qr7qe Who planned the motorcade route? Who took the body out of Texas (illegally)? The Secret Service wasn't alone in planning this event, the Whitehouse was involved too. Supposedly there were assassination threats made against JFK around that time, you'd think they would have canceled the Presidential parade through Dallas considering how impossible it would be to secure the motorcade route.
Despite what Olive Stone had Donald Sutherland say in his JFK film, the Secret Service never had the manpower to make a motorcade route of that length, with that many overlooking building secure. They would have needed an army of agents.
Nobody ever seems to consider the possibility that the Presidential staff would have to be involved in all of this.
@@Chicken_Little_Syndrome Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon wanted JFK dead to protect his Congolese mining investments. Ditto with Rockefellers and Allen Dulles. Also why Patrice Lumumba and Dag Hammarskjold had been assassinated earlier. Greer was an Irish born Irish Methodist and didn't particularly like Irish Catholics. His son admitted Greer didn't like JFK. To get another driver out of the way and put Greer into the driver's seat for Dealey Plaza, on Oct. 14, 1963 Secret Service Agent Tom Shipman was poisoned at Camp David. JFK's doctor Adm. Burkley told Shipman's widow to do no autopsy and to bury him fast. Later Burkley told Humes to fake the JFK autopsy, stole the Harper Fragment of skull, and lied about JFK's body at the autopsy being in the same condition it was when it left Parkland. In reality, Humes had butchered JFK's skull (downstairs at Bethesda) to combine 6 bullet holes into one big butchery hole explained by one bullet. The crunching and sawing to do this was seen by embalmer Tom Robinson and Navy technician Ed Reed.
It's a good point. Much like, why with the most important case of the century, did they not record even a minute of testimony of the accused Oswald on tape when they had a whole two days in which to do so?
Also, why were the empty coke bottles in the lunch room of the TSBD not checked for Oswald's finger prints along with the dregs of coke being viscosity tested for time lapse? This would've been basic forensics in the 1960's. Compact cassettes were out the previous year already in Nov 1963, and even lots of kids had reel to reel tape recorders, which were already becoming obsolete... But apparently no recording or Oswald's interviews. WTF?
Never forget greer was a bigoted northern Irish protestant ... Kennedy from a southern Irish Catholic backround ... greer would have been delighted to play his part.
"Bye guys!! I'm going to lunch!! Have a good trip!" is clearly not at all what Rybka's body language was saying. There's not a person alive who wouldn't look at that video footage and determine that Rybka was clearly asking, "what the fuck?!" This is one of those examples where a person who is lying attempts to gaslight the other person, telling them something that is meant to make them question their own perception of reality. This behavior is one of the defining characteristics of people with narcissistic personality disorder. I don't know if Clint suffers from NPD, but he's batshit crazy if he thinks he can convince people that Rybka was wishing everybody well as he broke for lunch.
It's glaringly obvious that Rybka was told to stand down right in the face of obvious risks.
"Bang"..."Bang Bang". Don't know how many people reported the bang...bang bang firing cadence. You just can't do that with a solo bolt action rifle folks. Warren Comm didn't want to talk about that so much.
Clint Hill didn’t like the three shot cadence at the end of the clip, that isn’t possible with a bolt action rifle. The whole official version stinks to high heaven. Secret Service paved the way for a turkey shoot.
re: the question of what if Greer has stepped on the gas after the 1st shot would JFK still be alive? Given Dallas was the 3rd attempt at killing him just in November (!), I say no.
the grassy knoll ? the pergola in back of Zap and Sitz ? it was a pill box look at where Chas. Hester is starring . at Irwin Schwartz in the pergola ?
Two shooters firing from pergola. (Tramps). Found in railway car. Lee Bowers must have seen those Tramps leaving the scene and getting into the railway car. And we know what happened to him.
@@ACCOD make sense of it all ? If Zap did not report what he saw the shooters must have been Irwin Schwartz and Robert Surrey. And they see in Zap film him jump during the shots , well you would jump with someone shooting a Mauser less than 15 feet in back of you !
@@jimmywilkinson9190 There might have been shooters in back of Zapruder, but no bullet from that location matches any of JFK's wounds. So if they got off a shot it missed.
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Zapruder cleared everybody out of his Dal-Tex offices fifth and sixth floor between 11am and noon on Nov. 22. That so Assassination Command Central could be set up there beginning 12:05 with spotters, radios, rifles, telephones, and hand signals to Central Records across Elm and to TSBD across Houston. From his office, Zapruder had a perfect spot to film JFK coming onto Houston, all the way down Houston, turning the lazy corner, and all the way down Elm. He had to do unnecessary work to go down Elm, have himself propped up by his secretary, risk breaking his neck, and get less than half of the transit time on film. How did he know for the film to run out just as JFK disappeared into the triple underpass? Why was he using an old roll of film full of junk, when a presidential parade merits a fresh roll of film at a minimum. Babushka Lady knew where to stand as back up in case Zapruder's camera failed. Her film (she didn't step forward for fame and fortune since she was working for the CIA) ended up at Ft. Bragg's CIA/Army sniper assassination school for the Green Berets, where it was seen by Dan Marvin. The instructor said it was a good example of how to do an urban sniper assassination. Later the CIA asked Dan Marvin to kill Lt. Cmdr. William Bruce Pitzer, who had untampered film of the JFK autopsy and needed to be silenced. Dan Marvin declined but another assassin didn't.
What lapses!? It was well planned.