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- Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) is one the best looking movies of the last 50 years, but director George Miller preferred a different version. Here's why.
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So what's YOUR favourite use of black & white in a movie?? Or are you #teamcolour?
Logan. Had seen it twice by theater and a handful of times after release. The Black and White cut made it somehow more emotional, more riveting of an experience. I grew up with the X-Men movies too, so having it be, at that point in time, Jackman's last film in the series, plus the films actual ending of it working the emotional heartstrings, seemed to make it that much more powerful of a story.
Kill bill fight scene
@@dou7902 I was about to say the beginning when they shoot her in the church. "Bill... it's your bab-"
It's still Fury Road black and chrome
I went to the drive-in to black and chrome
And was so disappointed it was only going to be shown once so I tracked it down on Blu-ray
sin city
I thought the vibrant colors they used in Mad Max were part of what made the visuals so good. The vibrant reds and yellows turn what should be a boring wasteland into something akin to grinding a sunset down into powder and coating the ground with it.
I agree, but also, the b&w bits in this look truly beautiful. I might have to watch this version.
I totally agree, however he uses those two colors as if they where shades of b&w, the color grading uses the same effects as B&W films do.
Turning it B&W emphasizes those elements even more.
It goes down to taste
You thought Fury Road looked beautiful. It looked very flat with far too much contrast which is typical of digital productions.
Also rust. The orange and red emphasise the dying industrial of the old world. Despite the apocolypse, the cause of the old world's destruction Is inescapable with rust bleeding into the sand, peoples faces, skin etc. Another everlasting conseqeunce of the old world's destruction.
something Denis's "Dune" failed to achieve. imagine making Arakis look like Hawaii if vaseline was smeared on your eyes
Speaking as a 3D Artist/Game Designer, what makes black and white so evocative and *raw* feeling is that it's a pure light-study at that point. No more colour theory, only lighting and shot composition.
A great example in my opinion, the Parasite example you used at 1:23 shows how you look at the shot differently. You see the shadows and silohettes pop-out with much more definition, and it changes the feel of the scene to seem much more sinister than it already was. The focus moves away from the chaos, which is more apparent in the main cut, and refocuses on his shadow looming over the aftermath - it's much more foreboding and it contrasts the background much harder as a light study.
Black and white gives you a more "raw" view of the frame, so flaws *and* strengths come through - you can't hide behind anything. Anything you choose to put in the frame becomes bespoke in black and white, which I think is why *some* movies are incredible in B&W and some are just gimmicks. And then you have situations like Sin City where a colour version would be tantamount to heresy lol
agreed there'd be a bunch of movies that would look so much worse in B&W purely because their lighting/composition are so poor to begin with.
Take a screenshot of 1:23 and turn it black and white. You will notice that the main reason is because the "black and white" version has altered contrast. It's not simply the raw footage turned greyscale, they literally darkened the shadows and brightened the highlights a bit. Grass ends up a bit brighter but the most obvious is the shadows.
His shirt is brighter in the black and white and the plate is darker. They did more alterations in the black and white than a simple 0 saturation. I'm sure the original would have looked better with these changes as well.
there is also still some colour left in the "black and white" version.
I don't know about "heresy." Even as someone who's whole lifestyle and aesthetic was formed by Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns in '86, I still feel a little weird about the overdone reverence around guy's work. Let's say doing it the normal way would have been a tragic missed opportunity, and resulted in just another forgettable movie. Aside from the black and white itself, the way the film directly recreated the comic's panels gave the film a completely unique storytelling language. The style was the substance of the film. After that, the way films take the premise of source material and toss away everything else in favor of the cinematic routine seems absurd.
And yet, the whole film industry saw that, saw how incredible and innovative cinema could be if you actually dare step outside the normal way of doing things, and they just went back to the same old approach. The timidity of cinema makes me sad.
I feel like they're going to learn all the wrong lessons from the triumph of Spider-Verse as well. The problem is, 99% of filmmakers are only drawing inspiration from film, and it's a dull feedback loop. Film is the dominant art medium on the planet, but it's like pulling teeth to get any true innovation. Look what happens when these people actually look outside the medium, at comics, for example. Or Peter Jackson's team actually drew from the rich tradition of fantasy art and world-building, rather than just classic fantasy films like Wizard of Oz, or historical epics like Spartacus. Superheroes are the number one film genre now, yet there's still a massive gulf between the feel of superhero comics and their film counterpart. With a few exceptions, they're still just big action films in awkward, stiff muscle costumes.
Oh, speaking of black and white and games, I played through Ghost of Tsushima in "Kurosawa mode" twice, and though it makes the game much harder, it's totally worth it for the epic, cinematic experience. I'd love to see more games experiment like that. What a breath of fresh air. Have you taken a look at that?
Logan was released in 2017
I did a black and white zombie short film project in University, and there's two things covered in the video that I lived through back in 2013. First, for black and white to really pop, what you shoot must have contrast. The second, having a vision and getting everyone to understand that vision is difficult. My zombie makeup was really quickly applied, deep red under the eyes to get that sunken-in look, and blue to contour the cheeks to get really gaunt. Walking onto set after doing the makeup, the production team thought it looked stupid and clownish (university group work always sucks) until we got it into the editing bay and converted it to black and white. Obviously my crappy student film doesn't compare to George Miller, but it was vindicating hearing the most vocal group detractors finally get it.
any way we can watch the zombie movie? I'm curious now
@@heyitsharry9381 It's not up anywhere, and I'd be surprised if it still existed on a hard drive somewhere. The world isn't missing anything though. It's the same output any second-year film students might come up with. The point was we were attempting a specific visual style that was hampered by half the group not showing up to the planning stages, or weighing in on the test footage, but having many opinions on the only night of shooting we had at the main location. Hearing the push back from Hardy on the set of Fury Road reminded me what that was like.
This fits into the criticism of "colorizing" the old black and white film classics made by the classic film's directors and cinematographers. The colorizers puffed up how they went back to the original costume design to get the colors correct. The people who worked on black and white films had to point out that the colors were chosen because of how the black and white film grey-scaled colors. The original colorful sets/clothing had nothing to do with how the film would have looked if the directors/cinematographers had used color film. IIRC, Technicolor required film productions to employ one of their employees when selecting set and costume colors to ensure the film's final color was as great as advertised.
Same issues when removing color from a film shot in color because they didn't set-dress/costume for black and white film exposure/processing. The removed-color examples in the video make me think "bad set/costume design; should have done it differently" which is definitely not an issue when I see the color version.
Absolutely agree with your point of needing CONTRAST when doing black and white. [Edit add] When the clip of "it's a Wonderful Life" appeared my knee-jerk reaction was "this is vibrant". Not so with the color-removed clips.
I think the contrast is also black and white’s greatest weakness. It’s beautiful at first, just being able to see the raw elements of light without color, but after awhile your brain gets tired of working harder than usual to understand these images you’re seeing.
The Mist I think I like more in B&W. With the shadows, particularly in the chemist scene, I think there is more atmosphere & makes it more unsettling.
The Corridor Crew guys have pointed out that the CGI looks better in B&W too because I don't remember why it was fairly technical but some part of the color made it look bad.
Yes. In monochrome, _The Mist_ feels more like a classic horror B-Movie and it helps hide the artificiality of the effects.
I saw the double-feature of Logan and Fury Road at the Castro Theater in San Francisco, and it was astonishing. However, as a professional visual storyteller myself, I could see there were little key elements of story that were lost, because somethings are expressed primarily, almost exclusively, through color.
Blood, for example, is a massive storytelling element in both stories, especially Logan. The scene right after the opening massacre, where Logan is covered in blood, struggling to heal, loses the visceral impact of a man spattered head to toe in red. His suffering ends up feeling more existential than physical.
In Fury Road, the bright red of the blood Immorten symbol on that cloth map, or in the tube feeding Furiosa, bringing her back to life, becomes a dull grey, losing some of its impact. But even more, the green of Immorten Joe's rooftop garden is startling, giving a visceral sense of paradise and hope in the baked, blackened world of Fury Road. When the characters speak of the green place, that's the green you picture. And when it's established that the only true green place left is Immorten Joe's stronghold, your mind goes right back to that one glorious explosion of lush green we saw early on. But that's conveyed entirely through color. As the Coen Brothers proved in "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou," all it takes to turn a rich, lush landscape into a bleak one is the removal of the color green. So removing that color from that scene in Fury Road stripped that key plot point of its visual language. We're only left with the idea of the rooftop garden being a paradise. And in such a visual film, it was crippling.
Of course, film had to make due without these key elements for the first 50 years of its history. I'm reminded of the opening scene in The Big Sleep, where Bogart's Philip Marlow meets General Sternwood in a lush orchid-filled greenhouse. It's supposed to be like eden, perversely contrasting the sorry tail-end of the general's debauched life. But without color, we just have to imagine the lushness of the scene. Black and white is no palette the glory of the mother nature.
Regardless, I adored both films in black and white, and I'm dying to see the Soderberg edit of Raiders. It reminds me that the film as much a noir as it is an action adventure, the key element I've always felt was missing form its lackluster sequels. After all, its ending almost feels lifted from Kiss Me Deadly. But I digress.
While a film is produced in one aspect, colour vs b&w, then the reversal of it may detract. I am reminded of Schindlers List where the B&W scenes where enhanced by one object being rendered in colour (red suitcase). Neither an entire monochrome or coloured representation would have worked as well.
Two very average movies.
@@Art-is-craft That is certainly one opinion.
I really enjoyed this write-up, and couldn't agree more about the "noir-ness" (if you'll forgive the expression) being what's missing from the subsequent Indiana Jones films
Black and white makes what you have been focusing on harder to see and track throughout the scene. This forces you to concentrate harder and take in more of the scene, adding to the intensity,
no, it makes it much easier to do quickly because there's less superfluous information to process.
35mm film black and white looks Amazing when seen on a film projector. On digital it looks lifeless and ordinary.
@@TheJacklikesvideosyour brain is hard wired to perceive color easily, it’s quite literally the only way that a healthy person can view the world. The color of the environment around us gives us clues to differentiate things and places far more quickly than if they were all black and white. It is much, much harder for people to read black and white images than color ones, because even though there is more information given by the presence of color, that very same information means the brain has to do less work in figuring out what it’s looking at when it all looks the same.
The irony is that fury road has become a mainstay in essays about color grading 😅
I'm not a filmmaker but as a painter I can give my two cents on this: many illustrators start their sketches in black and white because working with essentially 3 values allows you quickly discern where the focus should be, a color's hue can provide contrast but it's not as effective in communicating form, so if you were to simply switch a picture to black and white you might find a lot of the colors having very similar values and the result coming off as "flat". Basically it's easier to start with a monochrome sketch and add hues afterward rather than trying to adjust your values after picking your palette, that could be true for movies that were shot with color in mind trying to go B&W too.
That's basically how to do comics as well. It has to read well in black and white before you add color. But my goodness, does color add a lot. It's just imperative you have a solid compositional foundation to build on, right?
Did you confuse the release date for Logan with Wolverine Origins? Origins was a 2009 release, which you have Logan marked as. I had to do a double take because I knew that movie was more recent than that.
lol i thought it was that old
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Yep, must have. 2017.
Okay I love that you approached this topic because the video by Cinemastix on Indiana Jones black and white is also brilliant. I used to think of it as a gimmick, but Soderbergh's experiment really highlights the pure technique and artistry put into work by Spielberg into framing, blocking, and staging every single shot, and always supporting the scene with visual storytelling regardless of whether its action or dialogue. A perfect example being the scene with the two CIA guys and Indy and Marcus (as explained in CinemaStix' video, lots of camera movements there and all purposeful without over-cutting). Black and white can be just fanciful gimmicks but it can also distill and hone your focus in on how every shot is crafted. The same way The General is timeless, or a dozen noirs don't need colorisation, nor many Hitchcock films, the black-and-white can really just sort of strip away the layers of colour to look at pure technique, and if a movie can work without colour or dialogue such as in Soderbergh's Raiders cut, that goes to show how well a film is crafted.
Sorry if that's rambly, just want to emphasise that B&W is like taking away one of your senses, so the others are heightened.
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Mad Max Fury Road should've won the Best Film, Director and Cinematographer as well. There was no superior movie that year. It totally deserved those awards.
Amazing video! I personally like color films better, but I do love some black and white films. Oppenheimer did a splendid job integrating the color and the B&W.
as did memento
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Most people would have seen Memento on 35mm film the issue with Oppenheimer is that most seen it on digital theatres.
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I think that what Joon-ho expressed about not being able to make a full-blown b&w film isn't true anymore. Cuarón made a film for Netflix in complete b&w and it won all the Oscars, both of Pawlikowski's great films - Ida and Cold War are in b&w, and they did pretty well. The Lighthouse as well, of course.
Don‘t forget Mank
Cold War is a good example
These are the exceptions that prove the rule. sure it's "possible", but black and white films are grouped as arthouse, no one expects them to make a billion dollars for which reason financial backers tend to object to that choice.
Given his history i would have thought that bong joon ho is actually one of the directors more able to release a full black and white film
No, he means that now that color film is a thing, no one is going to experience filmmaking in a world where only black and white is possible. He was expressing regret over that era being gone.
This is a great compilation of shots you compiled to make your point! Respect!
Logan came out in 2017, not 2009
The only film shot in color which I felt was improved by a monochromatic version was _The Mist_ because it feels like a classic horror B-movie and helps in hiding the artificiality of the effects.
Sin City obviously makes interesting use of black and white (and red.) someone else mentioned Kill Bill as a good example. George Clooney's Good Night and Good Luck did the whole period piece B&W thing which helped to integrate historical footage. Clerks was a budget issue and i don't know if it really adds anything to the film, but the lack of color certainly doesn't detract from the dialogue driven humor.
Kill bill also did a good job with balancing color and b/w
Yeah I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned
The b/w scenes were edited to get an R rating in the US
@keriofive heard about that, it's use of it though was impressive, peep the first scene of volume 2, the wedding
The color was almost a character in mad max
Well, the topic wasn't on center framing, but you did mention it! Great video as always!
Yeah the vid was a bit all over the place, so I’ll still give the guess a solid B+ haha.
Wow! What a channel. From the Name to the editing and scripting style. I loved it. Keep up the work, its like your born to be a youtuber.
00:19 Logan did not come out in 2009 lol, you gave an existential crisis there for a moment
I liked the way Sin City gave colour to the fleeting but critical elements - Alexis Bleidel's eyes, the red scarf, the yellow/orange of a cigarette burn - it was really well done.
I've got to see Black and Chrome now, looks stunning. Especially for a movie that was so loved for its vibrancy.
the answer is very easy - color is distracting, sometimes it helps to tell the story, but often it just hogs attention, and that is absent in B&W, hence the brain can focus more on the characters, rather than be distracted by surroundings, so when something happens - the feeling is more intense
that being said - I don't think Mad Max gained anything going b&w, more like - it lost something, just my opinion
edit: and some of those shots suffer from zero effort, you can't just do a desaturate and call it b&w, it looks like crap, no contrast, no highlights, if you really want to make a good b&w, you have to think in advance how you're going to make things you want to stand out
Wow, how have we managed as a species to live so long and raise massive cities in a civilization of billions with all that 'distracting' color??? It's 'distracting' if you have attention issues or in the hands of poor filmmakers, maybe.
Hearing Tom Hardy there at the end is just the cherry on top. Love Fury Road, love that man.
I love Mad Max: Fury Road...but I don't thinik I'd love it as much in B&W.... I like fire too much to deny it of color XD
Raiders of the lost arc edited by Steven Soteburg in black and white is great
Bullshit movie, no matter what colour.
i love shooting in black and white. since moving to a digital camera due to costs of film and developing ive really enjoyed running the film simulation in b&w, high contrast looks better and it helps me focus on composition and shadows/highlights better than when im shooting colour.
Do you like to look at your black and white image more than your colour ones?l
This video was very helpful. I now sorta understand why some I sometimes prefer black and white comics over colored ones.
Color can have a way of softening the effect of an image due to how it can stimulate the mind. It can be lush and beautiful and add other layers of emotional response on top of the more essential elements of a scene. When you take that away, you’re left with the basic, raw elements and it can be more intense. Now, light and shadow can have the same stimulating effect, so simply taking out the color isn’t good enough, you have to be intentional about it and most of all, light for it. Some color films are so carefully lit and designed that they can translate well to b&w without reshooting for a different lighting setup.
I bet Her in black and white would be really interesting! Like watching an audiobook.
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The shots used in this video were not very convincing of the argument. The Fury Road scene where they enter the dust storm is breathtaking in the original grading, whereas it looks flat here.
Reminds me when the director of The Mist originally wanted the film to be black and white and when we finally see it, the visuals are more brutal and overall makes the film more impactful
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Regrading from color to b/w can be an absolute nightmare compared to just shooting in b/w from the start. Some of the contrast for the b/w might just not be there -- especially with film stock. But anyways, brb, didn't even know there was a b/w cut of Parasite. Gots ta get that.
I know a person, who watched B/W Mad Max first and hated it. Then I gave him an original orange version, and he loved it.
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my ocd wont let the wrong release date on logan slide
Ngl that storm scene looks epic in black and white
I once saw someone on UA-cam talking about watching Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow in black and white. And I think that this is probably the most appropriate use of it! :D
Black and white filter removes the limiting factor of focusing more on the central field of vision which is heavily correlated with Color vision. With black and white the whole field of vision can be appreciated along with the accompanying motion/action.
Mad Max in black n white looks amazing.
I definitely feel that a black and white film causes me to focus more closely on what is happening in the film and thinking more critically. A lot of films will use flashy visuals to distract from the fact that the body of the work is wholly vapid, but when color is gone, you lose a key indicator of where your eye is supposed to be drawn. Instead of somewhat spacing out and mindlessly tracking the colorful objects on screen, you are made to focus on the character themselves rather than the visual color pattern you otherwise would have been paying attention to. Im not entirely sure I put these thoughts into words correctly, but maybe someone else will understand me
"...just because it's a gimmick, doesn't mean it's baaad" Just because it isn't bad, dosn't mean it's worth watching.
Amazing! I will give it a try!
Haven’t watched Mad Max Black and Chrome yet, but Justice League in b&w actually was very cool. Honestly it felt more visually unique, the creatures almost looked more like stop-motion era monster films and everything had that silent era movie mix of grit and dreaminess. Something about the color version looks more ordinary.
In comparison to the coloured films, black and white brings a mystery towards it and a tone of euphoria and anemoia...
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I was just similar to you and just kinda thought they were gimmicks but this video changed my perspective & I have a greater appreciation for those versions of the movies
Sometimes the monochrome cuts are pretty transparent vanity projects (I’m pretty sure James Mangold said Logan:Noir only came about because he thought his B&W behind the scenes photos of the crew looked so awesome) - but that doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad! Lots of cool stuff that stands out with the contrast ramped all the way up 👍
@@SceneItReviews Yes! The contrast and stark image is what made me feel compelled to give more of these a try. Kind of like watching Sin City
You can make Fury Road in any colour grade you want... it'll still remain a masterpiece
Great video, what songs were used in the back ground? Specifically 2:38
(without colors you try to understand more)I think with black and white you are always in search for more comprehension the picture becomes less comprehensive ,thus , you become concentrated more with the movie which leads to more excitement and more breathtaking experience . I guess this is why those three movies had a black and white version
Been playing a game called “Trek to Yomi” a black and white vintage samurai game, and my god, the black and white makes the game so immersive that colour couldn’t have done.
I think that, specifically for mad max, as that's the only one that I've seen, the black and white helps with suspension of disbelief. Most of the car crashes were practical, and this has always made the cgi stand out to me more than it would in most movies. Think dropping the creature from The Thing (2011) into John Carpenter's The Thing for two or three scenes. By adding the black and white, by adding that discussed effect of abstraction, it becomes far more difficult to tell practical and computer generated affects apart. The sandstorm scene in particular felt far more dramatic and dangerous.
black and white is the baseline to visual art to me. Find your values amongst the composition and then maximize the depth and contrast available to you.
Logan and parasite I don't think are changed or improved that much. But mad max is another level of post apocalyptic, mostly the fires and explosions look so vibrant in black and white. It feels like another place another world another level of immersion.
Such a humbling attitude from Hardy saying he didn't get it but owed Miller an apology after watching the final product.
Black and white is especially good when the film is about the internal dialogue - you are not distracted from the words or the expression. With colour, and especially colour saturation, you are pushed into the (hyper) reality of the world on the screen.
Fury Road in black and white reminds of the classic war movies from the 50’s and early 60’s. I dig it.
I feel The Mist (2007) is a vastly superior film in black and white.
I'm glad I have the b&w version on disc but am sad that, thanks to streaming services, so few people will ever get to see it that way.
6:10 "When you take the color out of a movie, it focuses the viewer's attention on the lighting and the focal point" and the _faces._ Humans are hardwired to see faces and the reduced visual information increases the relative strength of face-signals. (And other hardwired shape-signals, such as snakes.)
The black & white version of The MIST is way more scary and works in every shot. I’ve seen the film a few times in color and loved it. But after seeing the black & white I don’t want to see it any other way.
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Most modern movies make zero use of colour anyway, they grade the colours down to browns and greens and it may as well be in black and white anyway
Yeah there’s too many movies that either completely wash out the vibrance, or blow out the saturation to ridiculous levels.
Godzilla Minus One had a beautiful impression minus color in the theater, however, like 3D, it's up to the projector. Projectors are not unlike tube amplifies. There are tinges in light.
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0:18 i had a near existential crisis by you saying Logan was from 2009
I can't imagine a movie like Sin City in full color with high key lighting.
I mean... desaturation and upping the contrast a bit and I feel like that's gonna be good enough to make a black and white for most movies. You may need to grade each scene separately but to my eye the main difference between Black & Chrome and Desaturated Mad Max is a bit of contrast pumping. (I'm not a professional though)
You should adress Marvel's Werewolf by night re-released recently in color
The Mist, Logan, Mad Max, i LOVE in b&w.
I still fail to see the point of it for Parasite, haven't watched that version yet.
The Mist is actually better in B&W. I'm not a fan of the Mad Max edit, I think you lose more than you get out of it. The colour is spectacular and intense and adds to the feeling of the film.
Logan came out in 2017 bro not 2009 lmao. I think you are mistaking it to be X-men Origins: Wolverine.
Had to double check that one I thought I was reading it wrong
You're right, my bad. Need to hire you guys as my fact-checkers!
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Among photographers, we say "if you can`t make colors work the way you want it, make it B/W" I don`t know, I never thought B/W creates this arbiteray perception in our brains, I never saw it that way. We evolved to see colors, we go AWWWW when we are looking at the gazillions of colors of Pandora, I get orgasm like reaction looking at amazing colors...B/W just doesn`t do anything for me
I got the riddle !!!! when it goes to riddles i never get them but clearly they weren't movie related.
It's a good point of discussion. I can't even begin to imagine films like Casablanca or Young Frankenstein in colour and frankly, that would be just gimmicky. I haven't seen a b/w version of Fury Road so it's difficult to comment fully but from the clips, to me, it looked like it lost something, rather than gained anything.
"The Mist" is a movie where the director intended to shoot it on black&white, but the producers wouldn't allow it. Since then, the official B&W version was released and I think it elevates the film a lot.
I’ve seen Black and Chrome, and it is the best version for me. I haven’t seen Parasite in black and white though. I need to now.
0:22 Logan the 2009 film ah yes
Personally, I've never cared much for visuals. Usually I don't notice them, unless they are really awful (happened), or if someone sitting next to me says "wow, that's an awesome shot" (also happened). I'm interested in the story and the characters.
I think the fact that you can recognize if it's bad means that you still notice it on a subconscious level. So it shouldn't be neglected. But I get what you mean. Movies are audiovisual storytelling devices and most people focus too much on the audiovisual and not on the storytelling part. That's why Christopher Nolan's obsession with creating the perfect cinematic experience never sat right with me. I think he's underestimating the power of storytelling, including his own. You could easily watch Oppenheimer on a phone or an airplane in-flight entertainment system and not lose much. Watch an old movie with limited means like 12 Angry Men, The Seven Samurai or Harakiri and you see that fleshed out characters, good acting and an interesting story can carry a movie for several decades.
@@emulgatorx I've seen a nice explanation of camera work in 12 Angry Men, and it contained stuff like "this perspective makes the room feel small, creating a sense of claustrophobia". Which might be true, but I didn't feel claustrophobic at that moment, I was busy enjoying the story.
Although if cameraman walked into the frame, I'd probably notice and it would throw me out of the story.
Perhaps you accidentally mentioned Logan to be a film from 2009 but that really made me feel really really old for a second there. Gosh!
I prefer both Logan and Mad Max in black and white. It was a revalation when I discovered these versions.
I guess now you can also add Godzilla Minus One to this list...
Definitely interesting to see these movies in B&W but I don’t think it’s ever an improvement
Glorious chrome...
Colours add depth to scenes, parasite would have been different in B&W but colours added much more flare and emotion to scenes. About Mad Max I don't think B&W will do any justice as whole movie goes in wasteland so it would have become monotonous.
B&W is more for you to focus on scenes and character dynamics but colour add depth to scenes but not character until and unless it is portrayed in specific setting.
Thanks. If you want to watch a color film in B&W, you can adjust your TV. Just saying... tavi.
I shot monochome (I HATE the term black and white) in photography until Steven Shore made me understand color.
You have to use your imagination more. After a few hours of watching black and white you can imagine what the colours are and you forget it's even missing the colour. Imagination is engagement.
Fury Road is one of my favorite movies of all time! I think the first time I saw it I became complexly swept away by the energy of the film. I honestly cant imagine it cut any other way or with more dialogue. It's very physical, and the black and white version feels much more intense. I can understand the actors being overwhelmed by it a bit, but Tom Hardy has always seemed to be a good physical actor to me.
It is a very average movie at best.
@@Art-is-craft Where did I ask?
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Where did I as to be asked?
How many times you did change the title man?
Not to derail, but this hit me really hard decades ago while watching black and white films on heroic doses. I couldnt stand to have most shows playing, there was something uncomfortable about it. Black and white movies were an entirely different vibe. Entrancing and intense in a way that didnt make you want to itch. There is a weird magic in it, really hit me when he said that something about removing some of the stimulation makes its more abstract and less confusing
You have to see black and white on 35mm film to really understand it’s beauty.
I will have to what one , but I'm afraid i have no nostalgia for old cinema i wonder if it will have the same effect .
I these guys also loved to make b&w movies partly because 95% of their favourite films are in black and white. People wanna make stuff that are akin to the suff they personally love.
Wolverine X. men origin came out in 2009. Logan came out in 2017
So why is it that you hear a lot of complaints that B/Wing a color film is a gimmick, but when they colorize a b&w film it's crickets from the complainers?