Is the Kindle Scribe worth it?
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James is an avid Kindle user, so we got the new Kindle Scribe in to see if this new eReader does it all or if it fails to deliver on being either a drawing tablet or an eBook champion.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 eReaders have evolved
0:45 Unboxing
2:23 Design impressions
4:05 Sponsor - Vessi Footwear
4:37 Taking notes and stylus impressions
7:53 Front lighting settings and thoughts on screen
9:10 Sticky Notes vs Marking up books
11:57 Other settings
12:37 Marking up PDFs and other stylus tools
13:22 ReMarkable vs Scribe
14:26 Using the scribe one-handed
14:45 Pricing and overall thoughts
15:19 Outro - Наука та технологія
I thought it was a re-upload at first. Turns out this is Kindle and not Boox, James and not Riley.
James should do these tablets more. Riley is so clueless with them
Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two lineups of lmg hosts and E ink products.
They’re the same
@@tabeebrahman4843 The software is very different though
@@myaccount__7269 Riley is clueless with a lot of things
Same here
James is more excited to read the sponsor than to talk about the kindle
ye it really didnt seem like he wanted to make this review
This is no longer a review channel. This is just us watching who'll never buy it. They feed us these like mindless television that no one watches but runs in the background.
agreed, felt super low effort, very dissapointing
Thought I was the only one… this was painful to watch.
honestly i don't really care about his enthusiasm. I don't expect him to be excited about every product he reviews; its his job. I just watch it because it's interesting.
This is the second e-ink device featured on the channel this week. Not that I’m complaining, but does someone at LMG have a very specific Christmas wish list?
I think a lot of tech people want to see e-ink improve and become a viable display option.
Great for a second or third display just for code, textbooks, notes, research material or other text and static image applications..especially color e-ink. If video playback ever became viable then that is almost magic. Like a Harry Potter magical book object
It’s one of those things where when you get it in front of your eyeballs, it is immediately clear why it is better at the specific application it is designed for.
E ink devices tend to be quite high value for their price
@@t0mmy44h it is a monoploy and is only supplied by a Taiwanese company
Atleast it's not another keyboard review.
Could be? But also I think eink has serendipitously reached a level where the refresh rates are close to acceptable for *some* to consider replacing their phones or analogue notebooks. And HD color einks are also coming out soon. Could be a coordinated effort within the eink industry widen the market. Eink is only prohibitively expensive because the market is small. If more people get into it, the prices will come down. Perhaps they're at the point where they need more market share to progress the technology meaningfully
I have a feeling LMG is reading my search history.
2 e-ink vids within a week
same here!!! maybe the algorithm is smiling upon e-ink?
I got a finance video about investing in the eink company to not aswell.
I'm super excited for all the new e-ink things. I love my cheap little Kindle and seeing the technology get more love is awesome
Kid bought me my first Kindle nearly 15 years ago. I expected to hate it, but was hooked inside of an hour. That device lasted me over 10 years before it finally croaked; replaced it with a Paperwhite and I suspect that one should last a decade as well. The e-ink format is definitely better for simply reading books; I hate trying to read on a tablet or phone display. The vastly lower power consumption this display type needs is another huge benefit, and lets you almost ignore the battery level on the things.
I have a 4th gen kindle and it still works great, but I've been looking for a good writing e-ink tablet and it looks like we are nearly there (for what I want) and I'm really excited.
Flipping the scene upside down for throwing away the instructions for Australian customers made me snort my drink. It's the little things the editor does...
Liked your comment, let's see if it becomes a top comment with thousands of likes.
Just a quick note-I think that the Scribe is able to rotate 90 degrees as well, you just have to manually tell it to do so in settings, and then it will have the same 180-degree rotating behavior, but on a new axis. A little confusing, but I hope this helps someone.
As a massive Amazon Kindle fan, it's the Kindle I've always been hoping and waiting for, larger with the facility for taking notes on books. Will appreciate being able to eventually take handwritten notes on word documents too. I would have loved to write directly on books, but I can live with the decision they made. I'm happy to overlook certain quirkes overall.
I preordered the Kindle Scribe and had my hopes up for it. But it dissappointed me so much. I bought a Boox Note Air 2 for only about $50 more (I did get the premium pen + 64GB model so it'll be a bit more compared to the Kindle in this video), and said at the end of 30 days, whichever I liked more I'll keep. The Boox runs as an Android tablet, but just their default note taking app was a lot more powerful than the Scribe's. It didn't even take me a week to declare the Boox a winner because I barely picked up my Scribe over the Boox. Especially when the Boox can even download the Kindle app and read any book on my Scribe
When writing on an e-ink device, you need to ask yourself if it feels like writing on paper. That's the point. You can buy a tablet that does much more, maybe find a paper-like screen protector, but if it doesn't feel like writing on paper it's not a good experience. If you tell people an Android or Apple tablet can do so much more, you're missing the point of this product.
It’s funny you made this comment, I have been writing on an iPad now for 12months and i love the feeling of not writing on paper it is so much smoother and faster than paper.
@@aussiegruber86 Smoother and faster isn't a good feeling for those who like the control of paper. Creates sloppy looking art that needs to be constantly edited.
One thing to note about highlighting on and marking up books isn't so much a filesystem issue but a text rendering issue.
Most ebooks are reflowable content, in that you can change the font, spacing, margins, etc on the fly. If you were to highlight a passage then adjust the spacing, the device would either have to try stretching or compressing your highlights, or your unchanged highlights might not cover enough/too much.
99% sure I can highlight text on my iPad, tho. Just have to record the first and last words of the highlight and then it doesn't matter how it's displayed.
@@phreakinpher that's possible already on kindles, you can select text using your finger on the touchscreen and highlight it.
The issue is freeform highlighting and drawing... Yeah, you could do something similar checking first and last words, but what about something more esoteric like underlining, or notes written in the margins, bracket symbols around paragraphs, paper correction markings?
@@Hittsy >If you were to highlight a passage then adjust the spacing
is what I was responding to. You can definitely do that.
EDIT: You can make notes, too. You link a drawing to a specific passage; done. Apple Books already allows this.
EDIT2: Paragraphs are not altered by formatting, either.
@@phreakinpher On an ePub, not a PDF? If it is, then that certainly isn't *drawing* a highlight, it'll be a pre-determined area that you essentially enable. It is highlighting, but it's not freeform.
True, sad that it cannot do PDF-s either, would be nice.
James:
My wife is the same way. The solution is to put your cereal in a resealable container. Buy like six or something so you can throw one in the dishwasher as soon as it's empty. One of those little life hacks.
I'm excited to be seeing reviews for e-ink devices, I've been recently looking at e-readers and I've been overwhelmed by how much is just featured by the Kindle and the nook, well I love the size of the nook and the layout from what I've seen I'm not sure I would appreciate the ecosystem being smaller. hope to see more reviews of more devices to explore possibilities outside of those two
The issue with marking up e-books is more than just the issue of where to store the data in the filesystem and whether or not to edit the source material. The issue lies with how e-books are displayed on the screen. Unless you are using a PDF, which has its own formatting, there are no pre-defined "pages" in an e-book. Each "page" and "line" of text is determined by the screen size, the text size, the font, etc., and may differ from user to user, or even for the same user from device to device.
I love the editing on this one. The James lip lick was pretty funny
Transfer your cereal to a transparent plastic tub design specifically for that purpose. Solves your problem and keeps things fresh
But then you cant get into an argument, and then make up with happy fun time!
What I'm considering it for is writing. Writing novels, short stories, etc. I'm interested in knowing if I write something, can an editable file be sent to word or Google docs. If so, I'm sold. I don't like typing the first drafts of my stories. That's what interests me about this
it doesnt. its stuck in amazon ecosystem and would require using whatever kindle stuff they have to access notes. furthermore, it lacks most features like OCR and pressure sensitivity, making it a slog and just not worth it. find a tablet meant for it. Rescribe is one.
@@sorsu Amazon will release a big software update early this year which add many features to inter access with other eco system
Kindles already have a screenshot function that isn't advertised. I'd like to see that if you wrote a note, it would make it a screenshot you write on directly that saves in the notes folder. This would mean going back to the page wouldn't show your note, but it could be saved underthe notes and highlights tab. That would theoretically be easy for them to do in a software update.
I'm loving all the e-ink coverage. I'm a big believer that it's going to become more prominent in the next 5 years as they improve the tech
lol
It's great for black and white stuff, but nobody's come up with a decent color e-ink system for use with stuff like comics or magazines. It won't grow until somebody does.
Hey, I've seen this one before. Next year will be the year of the Linux desktop as well right?
@@madcrowmaxwell there are already half decent color eink... But yeah the colors are kinda faded
E-Ink is limited by e-Ink corporation, they are the tech holder and they don't do shit at all so best wish for something else to replace e-Ink.
I appreciate that the charge port is on the side instead of the bottom for the rare time you'd need to charge while reading in bed or something.
James has massive "i really dont wanna do this shit" energy
I would've loved this for my masters program. Read a lot of PDFs on my Kindle and the thought of marketing it up with a stylus gets me excited lol yes I'm a nerd
Love James coming on to do some video hosting. Going to need more of this as the TJM podcast winds down.
Considering this is way cheaper than the remarkable, I'm excited to see e ink available at a more affordable price point
Cool that Amazon is expanding into a new segment, hopefully they'll help drive some more competition in the space even if at the moment they're very behind the curve in functionality.
Thanks you for making the light pressure test! Even artist reviewers doesn't do that with graphic tablet review
I'm just excited for the big screen. I never got the chance to grab the Kindle DX and always wanted one. Yes, I can use my large tablet but I like the kindle's ecosystem and its e-ink display.
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the up side down video you got me chuckle
Interesting how perspectives change. As a leftie James probably did not think about that people don't swipe with heir left thumbs while holding the tablet in the left hand where the wider bezel is.
Merry Christmas James
Seems like a good first attempt but all of Amazon's competitors in this space are way ahead on the note taking side of things. I have a Supernote A5X and I love it. It's amazing for taking notes and has become something I regularly rely on for meetings at work. Great organization tools, lots of template options for paper types, layer support, and a pen that never needs nib changing (ceramic so it never wears down). Personally, I don't really care about having an eReader with my note taking. I'm okay having multiple devices for that. I just want a great digital note taking experience.
I'm excited to see where Amazon goes in this space in the future, but I think both the reMarkable 2 and the Supernote devices are the golden standard in this space for now.
The software updates have made this into a very nice experience now. There's still room to improve, but pretty darn good now.
I enjoyed the editing a lot on this video
"..Or girths if you will." That and the Aussie reference got me.
The editing on this video was Metal 🤘
Great Review. I think the Kindle scribe is definitely worth it! The best-underrated is the lack of distractions! Writing on it feels like paper,
Just bought one tonight because I take a lot of engineering notes with a paper book and have LOST books in the past - being able to back notes up and have them all on something tablet size is great. I have a Samsung Galaxy tab and I just HATE writing on glass when writing text - this looks to be a good fix for all the text I write. Plus all the PDF's diagrams I need - great! All in one. It's niche but I have a Super Kindle now!
I’ve been loving my Kindle Scribe over the last 2 weeks or so. Nice to see it get a fair shake here since it is great for reading on even if it’s behind competition in notes. I’ve used it for note taking once so far and it was fine, but should get better with promised updates next year.
I have both the Boox Note Air plus and the Kindle scribe. The kindle scribe screen is far superior to the Boox screens.
@@ronnyreese9718 That’s good to know. The Boox devices seem super cool as well but I don’t know why so many reviewers on UA-cam have been treating Amazon’s entry into large screen readers as an either/or situation. Like as if because they can’t do everything a Boox tablet can, they’re a poor device overall. I get that if money is tight people will want to choose one device but I don’t think that’s really a valid way to review tech. So many reviews complaining about what this device isn’t and rarely talking about what it is.
@@humancannonball3827 it is an e reader with a good Touchscreen for 100$ less then the competition (i don't count the boox note air because its at many points weaker then the kindle for the same price). but for the 100$ less u get a software that isn't capable of running normal android apps so it isn't recommendable for a device that u are using 3+ years. The kindle as an e reader is functioning better (has more features) with kindle books then with other data formats (and drm problems). Because of that most people will buy ebooks from amazon so in 1 year when u are a medium reader u did pay more money on books then the 100$ that u did save upfront.(u can get most ebooks cheaper and legal on other Websites then amazon or free in your online library ). I think when u are buying e a new eink tablet very year or u are using only kindle ebooks even if u have other Options then the kindle scribe is an ok deal for everybody else i cant recommend it but that is only my opinion.
@@_Magnuss_ yeah…I had a Kindle Paperwhite first and I buy Kindle books on sale regularly. My library is in the hundreds now so my perspective is a bit skewed in terms of available books.
Mention the editor in the video description so I can compile a playlist of videos edited like this because it is hilarious
the pen is most likely emr and also doesnt have bluetooth so youd have to be near the screen for it to pick up the field of the tablet and allow it to transmit the button press. sadly the tablet doesnt feature a pen cursor so we dont know where the pick up distance is.
6:30 "is that a feature or a bug" funniest shit ive heard all day lol
Couple of notes. Turning the bezel down instead of up should go to landscape. And I'm pretty sure you can mark text by press and holding it. But it's been a couple of years since I had a device like this.
I'm currently using kobo forma and i'm so happy with it. Way better than kindle from amazon and it supports more file formats.
I think it can be a game changer for the readers. I struggle with my kindle and not being able to note on it. Also, the mediatek chip sounds interesting.
My Boox Note 2 does basically every feature you tried that this is missing haha. Mark up any PDF, rotate any way, etc etc. though it was more expensive sadly.
i love that it has a left handed mode
I've got a Remarkable 2. The apparent lack of pressure sensitivity and pen angle is a complete no-go on this Kindle thing. For bonus points you can ssh into the R2 if you're a mad lad.
Getting files on and off the reMarkable is a joke. And the games they played with a subscription were insulting.
The pen technology used here is the same, so likely to add pressure and tilt all Amazon need to do is update the software. As to why... I guess because they didn't envision this as an art device.
@@tams805 That's a very good point about both the file transfer and subscription gubbins. I tend to just use it like a regular sketch book so rarely feel the need to transfer anything, but I agree it could be better.
who edited this one?
i loved all the little graphical and audio puns complementing the core content.
Well, the editor did make me chuckle with the "swipe" cut :-)
Curious to hear your thoughts on the Oasis now. I've had MANY eReaders, and the Oasis is by far the best I've used. It's over-priced for most peoples needs, but can be worth it if you are an avid reader.
11:24 it's available on Microsoft edge pdf reader where you can highlight any where in pdf and I don't think so it creates different files but it works there so why not here they should add it!
Can you export what you draw or import? Does it do ocr?
i'm glad to knwo that i'm not the only person in the world who is clumsy when pouring out cereal
This was much more informative than the Boox episode
I'm very excited to draw on these e-ink tablets. Drawing on an iPad causes the typical eye strain from traditional screens. The is the beginning of e-ink taking over as an artist's tool. In this current generation, this tablet almost replaces a sketchbook. Color shoud be on the way in a few years.
E-ink color exists but the saturation is crap, also colored E-ink displays have way less contrast in black and white text or images, hope it gets better soon
@@rakvianThere is a color technology which color really pops. But the refresh rate sux… 😂
@@rakvian I think the evolution of eink is encumbered by legal patents
Except it seems the pen for this Kindle is pretty garbage. No pressure sensitivity or tilt recognition.
what about oled
Honestly have no personal interest in these devices, but I do find these reviews intriguing. Lol
Whoever edited in the close up of James licking his lips at the start... Well done
Shout out to the editor. Comedic timing game was on fire.
Superb editing 👌🏻
Im confused as to why this doesnt support pressure sensitivity? Limitation of e-ink? (and why would it be)
Or is it to cut costs?
Yes! I liked this video purely because James is left handed 🤘
Feels like an E-ink competition going on.
How do you get notes off of the devices now that Amazon is discontinuing it's Cloud Drive product? This seems like the notes would be stuck on your device and you couldn't interact with it on other devices.
Tbh, these devices really do not interest me as drawing tablets (one of my big gripes with the Sarah Boox video as well) or as tablets (my problem with the Riley Boox video). My Boox has been a gamechanger for (college) note taking for me and I recommend them to other (college) students and even professors for note taking. So what I want to know when clicking on a video like this is: 1. How well does it doe PDF annotation 2. Is it easy to get my notes and annotated PDFs (preferable also the separate annotations) from the e-reader to my dedicated note organising app of choice (OneNote, Evernote, etc.). 3. How easy is it to switch from a pure notetaking mode to a reader mode; how easy is it to intergrate notetaking and task management (my own to-dos) into the reading experience? I don't care about line thickness or how easy it is to replace the tips, I want to know if I can use the notes and annotations I make on the device to write my college papers. I liked that James complained about the stupid stickynotes system, but I am curious if/ how you could get your stickynotes (with context! like quotes and pagenumbers) from the device to my note organizer.
The editor on this video must be my spirit animal
Understandable, have a nice day.
left-handed users. i think one reason that the charfging port is there so it the experience will not be that much different for left handed users.
0:57 my man out here with the "original" from tf2 sound effect
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I’d love one for doing score keeping stuff in Warhammer games or DnD stuff. But I don’t know if I want one badly enough to spend over £300
It's worth it even w/o the ability to write since you can read faster due to larger screen. If they made a 13" version which was slightly more expensive, I would also get it.
Comics, Manga and true documents like PDF when the small screen need zoom are perfect for this size!
What's that short circuit pc in the back during the ad read?
What smart watch is James using?
Does the Remarkable have 300 dpi? The scribe does. Based on previous iterations of kindles, expect a large software update in six months to incorporate many new features.
Oh my god, this would make reading PDF textbooks *so* much better - hurt my eyes so much as an undergrad trying to push through years of text on traditional monitors.
Personally, I'm sticking with my Oasis (I think it's a 2017 or 2018 model? Pre-warm light feature anyway), and I'm going to hold off on getting a new one until Kindle finally releases a colour model. Amazon seems to wait for the tech to mature before they release a new device, seeing as how they waited until Remarkable went through two iterations before finally releasing their own writer. So I expect it's at least a few years before we get a colour Kindle. Current colour e-readers have more of a colour comics newsprint type of colour palette, just a bit light and almost watercolour-esque. They colour e-ink is in lower resolution than the greyscale stuff.
I think there was another breakthrough in e-ink tech not that long ago? No products available yet, but it's supposed to have a lot more colours than current colour e-ink displays and at higher resolutions, so maybe a couple of years after e-ink displays with that tech come out and we'll see a Kindle Colour.
Yeah EInks Caleido 3 panels came out this year and have pretty good "print" color quality (still a bit less "pop" which is understandable) and, more important compared to older "full color" panels much faster to refresh. I had an early full color panel at work which took like 15-20s for a full refresh and no possibility to make partial refresh.
@@Strawberrymaker Yeah; getting the control of each color particle has got to be tricky. I imagine each type responds to a different charge level, and they'd have to be set in layers.
Ive been using my remarkable 2 since it came out pretty much. It has improved a lot with software updates. Lots of features have been added, making it far better for a wider range of uses. That being said- I do not recommend investing in remarkable. Their change to a subscription to get what should be basic functionality is brutal. I would understand if they wanted to charge for just things that require server bandwidth like linking to google drive, but they have put basic features behind the paywall. I was grandfathered in and have been part of the beta program, so I have experienced basically every feature, and every bug, that has come through their device. It is way too easy to lose the pen, and the paywall is unreal.
I love the tech, I love the product I have (not having to pay for features), I cant wait to see how far it can go with future iterations, but it is very difficult to recommend the remarkable platform how it is now.
Fellow remarkable user here, they actually reversed a lot of their subscription model. They brought the price down from 8 dollars to 3 and made all features available to everyone. The subscription is purely for cloud storage now.
Love to see e-ink (writing) tablets gaining traction.
Would hate to see Amazon get the fruits of this trend, though.
14:42 "Swiper no swiping! Swiper no Swiping! Swiper no Swiping!"
Is it possible to get a a set of notes off the scribe as a pdf?
1:35 honestly man, who could resist?
I thought " it seems like somebody fought for those. They were like you're crazy but we'll let you have this one" was funny. Sounds about right.
Sigh the saving grace for this device for me would have been if there was pageturner buttons on the pen.
And audible support for Australia ofc
Im really into these devices as a book or notetaking device but damn, I aint spending almost $400 on it
Merry Christmas
I've never noticed that James is left handed.
Now it's all I can see.
I'll be tempted to get one when I run out of notepads in my work truck. Lots of paperwork and I really want to move onto digital stuff so I'm not going through so much paper.
Note taking would be my focus. How do you export notes?
You can export notebooks into pdf to your email
Check out the Remarkable 2, I tried it and the Kindle side by side and it is better for notes
God I just can’t justify the price for this or the ReMarkable.
could you guys please add links to the songs you’re using? thanks!
The inability to markup books might be a hardware issue; perhaps there are a limited number of inputs that the user can make, and they want to keep the ability to turn pages.
Actually the side charging port is much better if you want to read it in portrait mode, since you can stand it up without breaking the charging cable.
Writing directly on the page would be cool, but the books are reflowable. How do you resize and reposition the note when you change the font size? Incredibly difficult problem.
Watched the Riley one with the Boox, thought it was ..... the same video but re-uploaded
James this time around
The Kindle has the defect that you can only use the Kindle store. The boox is a better device; you can draw all kind of stuff in your books and documents. I've been using it for a year and picking the pen and use it like a pen is automatic.
You can highlight text in your electronic books with your finger in other kindle models, it creates a text file inside your kindle with the highlighted text, although I believe it contains all of your highlights, that is, from every book in your kindle. So there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do it with the pencil.
What I would be worried about is how long Amazon I going to keep upgrading and future proofing their device which is something the remarkable team are good at
The pen is the same tech as the Samsung note tables, although with the older Samsung tablets, the pen was stored inside the tablet, and that was why I purchased the tablet, no need to worry about losing the pen.
Can you review the Freewrite thing?