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![B&B - Truth is revealed...drama ensues; Liam reunites with Hope [01-25-2012]](/img/n.gif)
Brooke and Hope are such dreamers !! In their own little world.
Both snakes 🐍 out of the same skin.
Manipulators.
Witches
@@TheDailyBuzz Come on Steffy can manipulate with the best !!
Liam and steady really have always belong together
Steffy is Soooo much better 4 Liam than hopeless hope...
And in 2023 Liam finally admitted to Wyatt that the Love of his life has ALWAYS been Steffy!!!!!! Not HOpe
Don't forget Liam told Hope he not one woman man
The bond with hope and liam never grow on the other hand steffy and liam bond got deeper and deeper over the years
Yeah until she slept with Bill
Why is Hope lying to her Mom?😐 Liam even though I can't stand him finally spoke. He told her his baby was conceived in Love. He told her that they couldn't rewind and go back. She has her Mom thinking that it's guilty obligation to why he let her go.
Boom
Hope has always been a big liar.She knows Liam love Steffy because he told her that baby was created out of their love.That's why I have never liked her because she is a hypocrite.
Hope has never been able to admit Liam had genuine feelings for steffy. Brooke raised Hope to fake, arrogant, and entitled... and that actually hurt Hope as an adult. And Hope's huge ego could never admit Liam actually was in love with Steffy.
They were both not ready to accept that Liam loved steffy too. But by now they got the picture.
Brooke and Hope always thought Steffy manipulated and tricked Liam. That is was never any real feelings. Just sex and fun. They never saw them up close like we the audience did. We saw the real genuine love between them. But to Hope and Brooke, they thought it was fake. Well in 2023, Liam told Hope to her face that he regrets giving up Steffy for her. He told Ridge that the biggest mistake of his life was walking away from Steffy. They all finally realize (including Liam) that his one true love was always Steffy, not Hope
The fact that Hope says the only reason he is staying is because he wants to be there for his child. Not that liam didn't tell her the baby was conceived out of love. I am just saying. If he didn't love Steffy he wouldn't have stayed.
I think Hope likes to block it out of her mind that he loves Steffy. Like there's no way Liam can ever love someone like Steffy. She's so arrogant like her mom
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Hope believes she is the only love of Liam's life. Hope thinks that all Liam needs to be happy are her morals and values like hell. He needs more than that.
@RealTalk1411 Exactly. And the thing about Hope morals and values is that their all BS. Cause we have seen over and over that Hope will toss them aside at a moments notice in order to get what she wants, yet she always feels superior to other women
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi That's why when Liam laid into her over the kiss with Thomas in Rome I didn't feel bad.
That was a long time coming. Hope is judged, shamed, ridiculed, and humiliated every woman on this show because they chose not to live their lives like her. They chose not to abstain and wait till marriage. She made it like she was better than them because she had morals and values. She was the better woman. Hope ain't no better, far from it.
I just wish Quinn was there to Hope's downfall. I still haven't forgotten how Hope found out about Dumb Barbie's affair with Eric and kept it a secret. Hope kept quiet all because Donna is family and she didn't want to lose her nanny/baby sitter.
@RealTalk1411 Yes! See this is why I never liked Hope. She's really a mean spirited selfish person but she hides it in that fake nice girl persona. With Steffy, what you see is what you get. She doesnt hide who she is and she doesnt care if you like her or not. Hope has judged every woman on this show (including her own mother) and looked at herself as the example of high morals and values. The girl was barely out of high school when she got handed the Hope For The Future line and Hope decided to become the role model for all the young women in the world. The girl didn't even have her self together but she felt she deserved to be a role model for anyone 🤣.
I can see why Steffy never liked Hope. Cause she always saw right through the act Hope puts on. She's always seen the REAL Hope and it drives her crazy when others don't see it too. For Liam, it took him seeing Hope kiss Thomas in Rome for him to finally wake up. He told Steffy shortly afterwards that "The Hope Goggles" are finally gone. After all these years, it took that moment to finally knock Hope off that pedestal Liam use to keep her on. Now Steffy's trying to wake her brother up too
Love Taylor rushing to tell Bill the good news!
Where did that priest go? The minute Steffy showed up, he disappeared ! 🤣🤣
Lmao he probably snuck out and went home soon as Steffy said she was pregnant😂
He took one look at Steffy and realized he was wring when he told Liam "I haven't seen you with anyone else, but I KNOW that hope is the one for you."
Father fake-tanna realized not only did he shove his own foot in his own mouth but that he crammed it down his throat. 😅
😂😂😂
I love when Brooke can't have her way.
Kim Matula was perfect in this role... she was the only reason Hope was watchable!
That’s true . Annika is sufferable . The worst Hope ever
Agreed. Kim was perfect as Hope. Annika is too...blah. She suits the boring stories Hope gets now but Kim brought spark & personality to the role.
I agree.
@@simonmarshall19 IN NEW EP SHE FALLING IN LOVE WITH THOMAS AND FALLING OUT OF LOVE WITH LIAM HE GONNA BE HEATBROKEN OVER HOPE LOVING THOMAS NOT HIM ANYMORE HE WINE TO BILL AND WYHATT HOPE IN LOVE WITH THOMAS NOT HIM ANYMORE ??.
Kim matula is good in every role she plays
Liam didn't rush to say his yes to this wedding. He didn't rush to put her ring on because she is not the love of his life. Look at the second wedding of Liam and Steffy, he couldn't wait to marry her and kiss her. Hope is Liam's 1st love but his true love is Steffy. Look Liam and Steffy both fell in love with other people and kept going back to each other. Hope always pushed Liam away. She is the child that refuses to play with a toy until someone else has it then she wants it back.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤭🤭You told nothing but the truth!!!
Thank you finally someone understands
Second wedding steffy was pregnant with his child
@@henriettaowens6291 ok but when he lost his memory whom was it that he remembered?
@@erintweedy5574 Wedding in Aspen with Steffy and than the second Honeymoon night with Steffy !!!
Brooke such a hypocrite! Didn't Brooke try and stop ridge and Taylor wedding because of a baby that wasn't ridge!! She was a thorn in Taylor side her whole marriage
That was the same reasons Brooke gave when she told Taylor that Ridge didn't have to live with his kids to be a good father until she got pregnant with RJ then she demanded that he needed to be in the house with him
The logans always had double standards
Grandpa Dollar Bill Gotta Love Him
Hope told him go be happy with Steffy ...lol...now she mad ...she keep walking away she cant blame no one but herself
Then she later tells Steffy, "I let you have Liam. I told him to marry you " like hope had any influence over that
He could have left. She told him, he could b with Hopeless, but he didn't. She even offered to share custody, but he didn't.
Thank you. That said it all
They forget those parts
Hope wants perfection which doesn't exist and can't expect liam needs steffy will always love her to this day steffy always understand liam better than hope and what he is capable of hope wants fairytales and roses
Exactly
tori davis: "He could have left?" 🙄🙄🙄StePHONY KNEW....that her pregnancy would keep Liam shackled to her, regardless of how many times she told Liam he didn't have to stay with her.
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Hope just think it's the baby.Girl wake up.When he thought Amber was pregnant he didn't offer to be with her.The mam loves Steffy.He wants both of you.
Hope still doesn’t get it! He also loves Steffy and knows he will have an amazing life with her. It’s not just about the baby.
No it was about the baby .. lol he always wanted a life with hope the baby stopped the wedding 🤣
Back then yes it was about the baby when Steffy lost that baby he was ready to be with Hope.
@@TrickyNikki44no it wasn’t. Liam begged Steffy not to divorce him
@@Wareaglegirl9960 No he didn't stop lying Steffy was the one begging for Liam not to divorce her and have a boring life with Hope.
In this episode, Hope didn't want to admit to herself or Brooke that Liam really does love Steffy.
Hope Never Wanted To Admit That Liam Has Real Feelings For Steffy
Robin Deas she did at the beach house after hearing steffy and Thomas talking
Exactly
it was Stuffy ho who never listen to Liam when he told her numerous times that he loved Hope and wanted a future with her, it was Stuffy ho who insinuated triangulated herself between them. she tossed up those cha cha chas taking advantage of Liam's weakness before the dust settled signing up to be secondary supply. If Stuffy ho had confidence in Liam's love for her why did she have to resort to lies and manipulations, Hope knows he has feelings for Stuffy ho but he never stayed put with her for no more than a new york minute.
@@darnellanders8768 If Liam had no feelings for Steffy as you say, then she could have done what she wanted, he would never have come back to her again and again.
@@feuerwehrluetzen oh yes most men wants a secondary supply to fall back on who is sitting in waiting, how could Liam not care about good sex especially when it was free and easy, Stuffy ho smothered him at times. even followed him around waiting to pounce. i never said he had no feelings for her but most men who r madly in love will stay put, he jumped at the chance to return to Hope, as i said he had the chance to stay with Stuffy ho who had already had Kelly but he walked away leaving her to be with Hope and Beth and stayed with Hope until he feared losing his easy chair recliner, i'm not going to keep going back and fourth like Liam has done, but Liam even when he had passionate sex with Stuffy ho always told her the next day he loved Hope, they always got together by way of default by means of manipulations by Stuffy ho Bill or Thomas, Liam didnt know how to be alone, Stuffy ho admits that it was a dysfuctional relationship as well. his true love is Hope although he took it for granted.
When Kelly was eventually born, Liam once again was about to marry Hope later in the day. I'm glad that they've "grown" Steffy to have a new dimension: Finn. Too bad they didn't keep Wyatt and Hope together.
Yes an i loved Wyatt and Hope together
right. so glad she has Finn now. so sick of the love triangle with hope, Steffy and Liam
Finn trying to protect Hope from Thomas
Steffy screw up that up relationship when she slept with Liam. She don't know who was the father Finn or Liam
Finn about to jump in bed with Hope, I really don’t like Finn anyways
Hope said one true thing, that house is Steffy's and it's where she's raising her and Liam's daughter. Yes Liam's daughter, not Bill's like the Haters want to believe. If Kelly was Bill's, do you think Bill would've kept THAT secret when he went after Steffy?! I think not! JMO.
Melanie K agreed
I agree with that so I hope the writer want be that nasty if so turn the show off for ever
I've always thought that if there was ever a time for Bill to say Kelly was his daughter was when he was trying to convince her to marry him after catching Hope and Liam kissing.
Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏 that's a very good point people kill me with that nonsense
Its true. Hope tried desperately to make the cliff house her home but it never was. It was always Steffy's home first. The cliff house was never Hope's home exactly why she now lives in the toolshed in the woods.
This goes to show you that Brooke doesn't care about children she didn't consider Will when she had and affair with her sisters husband
Brooke only cares about her children...unless her children has a boyfriend or husband she wants to bang lol
Liam told Stephi that their baby was conceived in love also told Hope so there you go y'all he does love Stephi lol
Nancy Tautuaa very true
So true
Exactly
Yeah when he told Hope a father would never walk away from a baby that’s conceived in love! Yep Hope ran away !
And the Hope fans will still deny this, just like they deny Kelly being Liam's child even though Brad Bell confirmed that
I think liam hates the fact that steffy is always telling him to be with hope if that's what he wants he never can understand why steffy is ok without him when he never been able to do that
It scared liam when steffy told him to be with hope if that's what he wants he knew he would lose steffy forever
These old episodes makes me think that Steffy would have been better woman for Liam. She gave him space and honored his every choise no matter what they were. Hope just whines that buhuu I love him I deserve him. Why? She didn't gave him the space or anything...
Liam told Steffy that she is the only one that understands him. And that with Steffy, he can be himself. He would cry, laugh and dance without feeling judged by her. I was moved by that. If you are in a relationship with someone, you have feel those feelings and express all those emotions without been judge your partner or spouse. That is why I think that Liam and Steffy better couple. If you are married to someone and you don't consider him/ her as your best friend then something is wrong. If anyone want to watch those clips where Liam said that to Steffy is on Instagram. Liam-Steffy-Spencer. I might be in Italian, but I think there is one in English too.
@@maryhafiku3912 ...Liam wanted cuddling. He wanted to be in his happy place of waffling. He loved the idea of being with steffy because she was never serious ...everything was fun and games. That was what he liked. He liked steffys free spiritness.
Ever realised who he ends back up with for the serious discussions ? Hope!
Liam's and hopes relationship was all about learning and growth. Making mistakes and then conversing on what they did wrong and how they can change.
At the end Liam knew who he wanted to be with. Who fit him perfectly. It was always hope.
Nope!
She had her chance
I don't think so
Liam is a weakling. Why either Steffy or Hope would want him is beyond me. I feel for Kelly.
I believe Liam was going to pick Steffy anyway.
Liam was going to pick Hope. he want to keep his promise
Liam always telling Steffy and Bill he want to be with Hope
@@sherquettaingram2578 now new ep he want be with Steffy we know she the love of his life ?.
@@MichelleLohde-uv2rx Liam don't know who he want to be with back then
Liam looks heartbroken to me. I believe he would have picked Hope.
I'm telling u they need an Emmy award called.." Most hypocritical character in a daytime series".. Brooker Logan would win every season. How dare she say Liam doesn't have to b with the mother, when she was pregnant she felt Ridge had to be with her, because she was pregnant, never mind it wasn't Ridge baby anyway, but nevertheless how dare she??!!
tori davis Brooke is a hypocrite
She's only going by what Hope told her. She doesn't know that the jerk told her daughter that his baby was conceived in love and that they couldn't rewind and go back. Hope is telling her these blind lies. Like he's being pressured into his relationship with Steffy.
And Hopeless would be right there behind her....
Tori Davis so so true
"They don't have to be a couple to raise this child." Oh really Brooke. You mean the same way Ridge had to be with you in order to be a good father to Hope and RJ. Brooke manipulated and brainwashed Ridge into thinking that the only way he can be a good father to Hope and RJ is if he is in a romantic relationship with her. Ridge doesn't need to be with you to be a good father to his kids. As long as he is stepping up and doing his part, who he chooses to spend the rest of his life with should not matter but no Brooke must be with Ridge. There's no other way. She made it seem like she can't go on without Ridge. She can't exist without him hence the reason why she had a complete nervous breakdown when he left her for good. Sis was hyperventilating and having panic attacks all because Ridge left her and no longer wanted anything to do with her. Brooke is mad double standard. Hope and RJ should grow up with both parents but Steffy's child must be brought up in a single-parent household. Broole always wants the best for her children but never anyone else's.
That cabin has become very popular since Steffy and Liam spent an afternoon there making whoopee. lol
I know! If you knew that was yet another place your love interest had sex with someone else you need to not live in the same place
True lol
Steffy told Liam to be with Hope of that's what he wanted. If thus had been Hope, she would have high pressured Liam into leaving steffy and being with her. Oh wait... that's exactly what Hope did while steffy was pregnant with Kelly. Hope could not be any more of a hypocrite
Then she got pregnant and stood in Steffy's living room and told her that she wasn't gonna be the other family and Steffy needed to step aside and let her have Liam.
@RealTalk1411 Exactly... and hope enjoyed rubbing that in Steffy's face. Hope has always been such a selfish little hypocrite
Why is it always Steffys fault it takes 2 to make a baby but the hogan's have to blame Steffy cuz it's easier than saying Liam doesn't want hope anymore. Steffy told him to go be with hope if that's who he wanted but Liam never told the hogan's that
The hogans always feels like they have to have what they want when they want it that's why I don't like them never did
So have i
Didn't Taylor blame bill and Hope carrying Beth in 2018 when the same thing happened to Steffy...everybody is delusional on this soap
Steffy is a SL**!!!
I loved the exchange between Taylor and Bill. They could have had a great friendship but instead they turned Taylor into a gun toting crazy. Bell Jnr is the worst writer in the world.
So true.
The writer is biased.
Bill never wanted Hope with his son Liam.He always wanted Steffy with Liam.
I was so glad he left Hopeless what she thought Liam was going to dump Steffy for her ass. Hopeless and her mom want to think bad of Steffy. Sorry didn't happen ur way. Taylor is so happy for them both.
Hope and Liams bond might have been stronger in the beggining, but this baby strengthened Steffy and Liams bond more than what Liam and Hope's was
@Gilda Sassi Why should she have tricked him? The child was conceived during their loving relationship, when Hope was not on the scene. Hope is just too unstable and childish. She is to blame for her own misery.
1ta
@@feuerwehrluetzen Exactly. Hope was nowhere in the picture when Steffy got pregnant.
@@feuerwehrluetzen ha ha ha, wow were u not watching back when Hope left town and Liam finally chose Stuffy ho over Ivy married her and while trapped under debris and center blocks he kissed Sally and Stuffy ho found out about a stupid kiss and jumped at the chance to boink Liam's daddy bones, she became pregnant back then when she conceived Kelly not knowing who da baby daddy was. how can u say that she was conceived out of love, that was nothing but confusion that led him back to Hope who conceived Beth out of love, he proposed to Hope after he annulled the marriage between he and Stuffy ho, that relationship was built on Lies and manipulation from Stuffy ho who wouldn't except the fact that Liam loved Hope, she demeaned her beauty and self worth signing up to be secondary supply. Hope is much more mature and stable than Stuffy ho who has daddy issues just like her wayward brother, Stuffy h o says one thing and do another, she never enforces her words like when she suggested Liam go talk to his wife yet instead she allowed him to drink and have his way with her days after entertaining Finn, how mature is that?? Hope shows unconditional love like keeping her promise to never abandon Douglas and she was willing to kick Liam to the curb ,
@@RealTalk1411 i know she came back to pick up the pieces of a shattered marriage that Stuffy ho brought on by boinking Liam's dad, and now she repeats the same old cycle of being pregnant not sure who da baby daddy is.
Am I the only one so happy for Bill and Taylor more than for others?🤣
Nope I'm also happy for them
Just like Bill I believe that Liam and Steffy belong together up today I still believe that and we are in 2021
But Steffy knows she deserves better
@@keishasimmons9130 She does deserve better than him but she loves him. He is better when he is with her.
@@keishasimmons9130 me too. Hope is a spoiled brat. I hate her character, it's just too selfserving. Steffy is fun and charismatic.
@@keishasimmons9130 me too love their chemistry none like it ever …
Even now, Steffy has the strength to let Liam make his own decision. Something Hope would never do. When someone steals the molds from the sandpit, she start screaming and runs to her mummy, She lives in the fairytale castle that Mommy built for her.
Sure that's why Steffy had to scheme so many times. Hope always gave Liam a fair choice and Steffy many times did not.
@@ankina86 I do not think so. Hope always tried to get Liam on her side and - like her mother always does - tried to influence him. And when he was with Steffy, she also wanted to persuade him to come back to her, and kissed him. Dear Hope is not that holy either. She always talked against Steffy, while Steffy sent him back to Hope several times when Liam came running to her. In Italy she told him several times that Hope couldn't have left him standing in front of the altar. When Hope didn't want to marry him after his bachelorette party, she kept sending him to Hope to talk to her. Sure she was very selfish and ruthless in the first few years, but that changed later.
@@feuerwehrluetzen Wasn't Taylor trying to do the same thing how's that different. Taylor makes me sick
@@shirleymorris1099 I've never said Taylor doesn't do it. Still, it's definitely safe to say that she doesn't go to extremes like Brooke, who never allows Hope to make her own decisions.
Here is what Hope should learn from this whe she decides to grow up: Manipulated/ lied to or misunderstandings you can't go back to fix everything
Hope and Brooke think they are better than anyone
I find it laughable that Hope now thinks Italy was magical 🤦♀️She didn’t want to sign the marriage certificate because Liam turned to Steffy but now it’s magical 🤣😂🤣She’s not married to Liam because of her actions not Steffy’s
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Honesty it was not magical. He was about to run out on her and be with steffie. Then he marries hope. Just because steffoe settles for trash. Doesn't mean hope should
It doesn't mean that she didn't feel magical when she was getting married. If not for Bill's ridiculous lie they wouldn't split back then. Of course Steffy was right there waiting to become the perfect rebound.
It so funny that even during this time with this pregnancy Steffy told Liam he didn't need to be with her in order to be a father and years later She ultimately decided the same thing after she had Kelly. Steffy was never the woman who wants to trap Liam or make him feel like he's obligated to be with her. And that all Hope does! #TeamSteffy👸🏻 #freesteffy #teamstelly #TeamTridge #FreetheFORRESTERSofAllHoegans #Steo #QueenSteffythePhoenix #SaveThomasHamiltonForrester #SaveDouglasForrester #teamshauna #LeaveKellyAlone😌 #SteffyisabetterWOMANthanHOpe #FindBethsREALdaddy😜 #IsaidwhatIsaid🤷🏽♀️
Nope she chose herself and her daughter while hope still clings to Liam even after all these years..
@@crisvanfanLol clinging and still can't get him to stay away from Steffy no matter how much she whine or guilt him into doing her will. 🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Always on point sis 👏 👏👏👏
Steffy never ever wanted to trap Liam into anything but Hopeless certainly have with Beth n I can't wait until it's revealed 😉😊🤣
So true Steffy is a real woman Hope is still a child
y'all want to blame Steffy but if hopeless wasn't act like child throws tantrums all the time hopeless would be married to Liam
😂😂😂 very funny how bill called Taylor grandma..
Oh please Hope, Liam & Steffy told you over and over again that nothing happened at the club. Grow up and move on. If you don't have a tiny bit of trust, you don't have a worthy relationship. There is no such thing as "a man that should be yours". And Liam told you that the baby was conceived in love, so it's not "just" about the baby.
I love the old episodes of BB, however I truly see where Hope gets her manipulations from her mom!!! I truly hope that when Steffy truly does let Liam go he realizes that Steffy is his real soulmate and not Hope.
Bull
He does but now steffy is married
Hope is his soulmate
Brooke should be the last person giving advice to Hope considering the fact that Hope was a product of an affair between Brooke and her daughter's husband. A lot of it was Hope's fault...
Look at old big wide headed cry baby Hope.She has had so many chances with Liam.She just doesn't know how to be a woman back than or in 2022.
Brooke thinks Steffy got pregnant on purpose. 😶 WOW
It takes one to know one.
Because that's what she did many years ago, trying to trap Ridge.
And then she had a "miscarriage."
so steffy gave Liam a way out.But he said no my place is with you I know that now its not just the baby
Yes he picked Steffy 👍👍👍👍💖
Steffy was pregnant fool
Watching through these old episodes, literally from the bathtub save, the episodes with comfortably the most views are the ones that involve Liam and Steffy's love story high moments.
How did the producers and writers overlook that...literally the audience (just look at the comments) overwhelmingly wanted Steam and yet...
Don’t worry looks like it’s happening now especially with Hope being with Thomas now
You are correct! I've been tracking it for awhile for a work project and Steffy and Liam's episodes and scenes are by far the most popular.
Liam and Steffy will be together again. Its not a matter of if, but when. They finally got Liam away from Hope. Now we gotta see how they're gonna stick the final nail in Steffy and Finn's marriage once Jacqueline comes back from her maternity leave
Like brooke can talk she fake a pregnant then miscarriage to keep ridge year ago so why does brooke judge steffy when she done bad things to
katherine french
Yes 😊
And Steffys baby was real. Not a lie
Point that stuff out 😊
Hope fans are forgetful
Vibeke Selstad exactly wasn’t a lie, she lost a child before she had Kelly!
Jacarrius Nailer
Yes she did
@@vibekes2416 and hope danced on that babies grave
Brooke wants Hope with Liam but Bill wants Steffy and Liam together.Go figure.He doesn't even sugar code it with Brooke.He said Liam has made the right choice.
Man Steffy Love her ❤ some Liam. MAN!! Love can be beautiful just hang in their and be strong.
Liam was yours but you move out of his house and hope you can not get mad at steffy for the life she has with Liam
Oh Brooke, how often were you pregnant? Have you planed this every time. I'm sure, you have not! So don't judge over Steffy.
Brooke is biggest Hypocrite ever and it’s one of the many reasons why I can’t stand her.
The frustration Hope felt when Liam had a night on the town, is the same frustration I'm feeling towards her right now.
Steffy LOVE her some Liam Dam why they let her lose her baby. They r a power couple!!
I hate that to wish they could stay together always but liam is no good steffy needs a real man with a good business of his own
I agree I hate that they made Steffy and Liam loose their first Child considering how happy they we’re about it luckily Years later Steffy gets Pregnant with Kelly and survived her pregnancy too bad Hope also had to get pregnant and broke up their family.
@@mieshaclarissa I love Liam and Steffy together real love
@@jacquelineray501 agreed
that's what makes her dumb and stupid, signing up to be secondary supply and wonders why she always get the short end of the shit on the stick, she has no boundaries going after Liam even after he has told her numerous times he loved Hope and wanted a future with Hope, she finally landed Liam and boinked his daddy at the first sign of trouble, then she finally meet a guy who could love her first and foremost and she remains the stand by girl easy chair recliner. power couple yet each and everytime they hook up for a new york minute under the influence he want's to return to Hope, Stuffy ho needs to give it up, Liam will never be a happy camper settling down with her. never. he will always have Hope on his mind. Stuffy is secondary supply.
When Brooke was pregnant with Bridget she manipulated Ridge to divorce Taylor and Marry her.
Ironic isn't it that Bridget spun around and did the same thing with her own child. She used Logan to drive a wedge between Jackie and Owen. You see the apple don't fall too far from the tree.
Right, but she was saying Liam didn't have to stay with Steffy to raise the baby. Where was that when she was pregnant with Bridget, oh whose Eric's child. Ridges so called dad, because we all know Massimo/Stefano is Ridges papa.
@@toridavis8335 Thank you. You are so right. Where was this when Taylor came back and she wanted her to leave the house so that Hope and RJ could have their father? Brooke never told herself anything like this. And since we are on the topic of Bridget, how come no one ever said that to her either. That she and Owen don't need to be together to be good parents to Logan. Nobody ever said anything like that to her. But because she wasn't getting what she wanted, she always use to go crying to Eric and Rick and Brooke playing victim. Oh dad I just want my family together but Jackie's in the way.
What happened to RJ? Brooker and Ridge's only son?
@@bbsdollsandtvarchive u know what ur right..last time I heard his name was when Ronn Moss left the show and they said Ridge was visiting R.J at boarding school...but what if he comes back to stake his claim in FC. Cause u know Brooker has the audacity to think all her kids deserve a piece of that. Even Hopeless whose not a Forrestor at all..
I just wish the writers would have let this be the beginning of Liam and Steffy little family it could have been so beautiful , and Hopeless could have been with Wyatt and their family, the next generation, but no the writers have to keep this stupid triangle going because they have nothing else, and it's getting boring all this years and still going on,whats next Kelly and Beth fighting over Douglas in the next generation and just keep this stupid thing going, they need new writers with new ideas because this show is nothing like it use to be , there's no good story lines anymore , it's lousy writing ,you can pretty much guess what's going to happen next, no wonder some of the good characters are leaving, if this keeps up ,look what happen to the other soaps on ABC, oh well
Kelly and Douglas are blood related cousins
Beth and Douglas are blood related also due to Liam and Caroline being cousins.
The only way that story could work is if Beth turns out not to be Liam's child. Look how long it took for Bridget's true paternity to come to light. Ridge's paternity took even longer. If Beth is the daughter of another man that would actually make a perfect storyline for right now. I think Liam would finally leave Hope and he would then fight Finn for Steffy. Hope could finally start to think of Thomas in a romantic way and Hope's baby daddy could compete with Thomas for Hope. It would be refreshing to see the two ladies not fight each other and instead both of them have two men fight for them for a change. I'm sick of always seeing two women fight for the same man. It's about time they reverse the roles.
@@nicolegough2828
Does Liam actually know what he just did to his own flesh and blood and great cousin Douglas with this thing with The Senta thing???
Karen is his aunt and mother to Caroline Spencer Jr
Taylor his ex mother in law + Douglas grandma
Thomas Douglas Dad
Ridge Douglas and Kelly's grandpa
Steffy his BFF & true Love + Destiny and mother 2-3 children from him
Then Bill will not be pleased !!!
@@nicolegough2828 I don't think Beth is alive at all. I have a feeling that the baby Hope has is not Beth. I think Beth really did die on Catalina Island. Remember when Hope and Liam got the baby back they never ran a DNA test to see if she was theirs. There was never ever any official confirmation that this is Beth or that Hope and Liam are the parents.
Every time I watch this episode I detest Hope even more lol she is so arrogant she has always just refused to believe that Liam loves Steffy in spite of the fact that he’s told her multiple times. People that think Hope is so much better than everyone else clearly haven’t watched from the beginning. She’s just as self centered and manipulative as everyone else on the show
uhg exactly!
Agree! I lost all my sympathy for Hope when Steffy lost baby and Hope was saying the obstacle is gone! Even on a soap it’s a baby ( not real) but a baby ! Can’t stand Hope or the Logan’s even today !
@@annaherndon7983 omg yes!!!
He kept trying to let her down nicely, and even when she explained it to Brooke she made it seem like he was backed into a corner. THIS CHILD WAS CONCEIVED IN LOVE silly girl!!!!
She got it from her mother. Brooke swears everyone wants her. Arrogant. She turned around & slept with wyatt.
I keep on hearing “that’s the kind of man he is” about Liam being committed but he is the biggest waffler
Unfair its a soap Opera most characters have been married multiple times to 2 or more people.
aznsbd not unfair. Specifically talking about Liam in this context.
his waffling days were over until Hope insisted he waffle back to Stuffy ho, and as usual she welcome him with open arms, she remains the easy chair recliner for Liam, the stand by girl, she even gave herself to him while he was under the influence and the morning after he has Hope on his mind, if she was smart she would have waited for a ring.
Liam is exactly like Ridge.
@@ccgrey8731 Very true
steffy is much better. she actually wants liam’s happiest.. she loves him and even if it meant him being with hope as long as he is happy.. but hope would never say that. she thinks about herself. she dumbs him so many times then excepts him to run back to her. then she gives excuses it was manipulation from others. well when there is bad times hope doesnt work it out she runs away.
tina Ah exactly. Steffy gave Liam to Hope, even after the child was born. Stefy doesn’t need a man to be happy, unlike crybaby, whiny Hope
tina Ah that’s not true if she want Liam to be happy she would have never interfered in there relationship
So now they separated it so she expects him to run in steffy arms now she really is going to regret it.
It's "dumps" & "expects"! fyi
you got it all backwards, Hope made the ultimate sacrifice pushing Liam towards Steffy since she wants him to be a father, something she feels she cant give him after believing she lost two babies, she not willing to try again yet she also connects with Douglas who longs for a mother, she doesn't give a hoot about Thomas, Hope was nothing but Loyal to Liam and still loves him, Steffy on the other hand cheated on him with his father, and u call that love, she has been nothing but the easy chair recliner for Liam only to one up Hope something her mom couldn't do to Brooke, Steffy sure as heck didn't work it out and instead jumped her hubby's daddy bones, that's the ultimate betrayal, Liam loves Hope and after he sexed steffy awhile ago the morning after he has Hope on his mind, don't u think its time for Steffy to move on and find a man who will put her first and foremost, it degrades her character to be the stand by girl.
I understand why Liam fell in love with hope mainly because she was very likeable in the beginning but she has been a real A hole ever since she broke of their second wedding. I have no idea why liam still has feeling for her. Hope never believes anything liam tells her and only bbelieves him when she is proven wrong whereas steffy always listens and respects everything liam says. Why da hell is he having a difficult time realizing that steff is better for him.
I think if it weren't for Brooke Hope would have walked away from Liam a long time ago. Mummy dearest is the one who's been pushing persistently for Hope to run after Liam.
She's been setting up this poor child's heartbreak.
How many times did they go running to get Liam back and every time Hope got hurt. If Hope's tears were running water, Liam's driveway would be a Forrest by now. Brooke should have stopped the minute Liam proposed and married Steffy within 24 hours of breaking up with Hope.
I don´t understand really why everyone treat Hope like she´s an angel or saint. I mean she hooked up with Liams brother Idontevenbothertorememberthatnobodysname - and even got pregnant with him. What if she didn´t had the misscarrigage. Then she would have a baby with both Liam and his brother.
She didn’t just hookup with Wyatt they were married
Steffy had the whole family!
not liams baby wait and see Beth gona be a shock soon
True that and steffy a great actor is a good mature mother hard working and been there for liam and hope so why the dumb writer keeps writing bad and stupid parts we'll see the show when the writer gets better with steffy life
Nellie Cooper you can’t blame hope for her mother actions! We all know steffy had 2 brothers and the father! Needed a dna test to see who was kelly father! The father or the son!
LOL... BrHooker judging Steffy is really rich!!!!
Liam loves Steffy more than Hope
No his choice was hope
He chose Steffy actually
U r so right! Hope is a little girl in a grown woman body...
Brooke needs to let Hope live her own life.
Funny thing is after all those yrs, he still finally married Hope & she had his baby & they'll be back together once Beth comes back too & so happy! #TeamHope #LopeForever #givebethback #HopeBethLiam #TheSpencers #PrincessBethAvalonSpencer #WhatHasHappenedToTBnB #LiamdoesntwantStuffyHo
@@andrewsduran you are so right. Morals and values went out the door for hope just so she could prey on a new injured fragile family.
I THINK THAT STEFFY LIAM MAKE A CUTE COUPLE TOGETHER HOPE NEED TO MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP I THINK THAT HOPE MOMMY NEED TO STAY OUT OF HER DAUGHTER RELATIONSHIP SHE NEED TO FOCUS ON HER MARRIAGE TO HER HUSBAND RIDGE
Yea right Steffy and Liam are u crazy not once since Liam moved in with Steffy he ever showed any interest in wanting to start ah relationship with Steffy hence Thomas drugged his drink for them to sleep together and even then Liam didn't show any interest he was confused as to wat happened
thank u, the Steffy fans r delusional seeing what they want through rose color glasses. Liam is right where he wants to be. his attention span of a nat r over, he spatted the nat away.
Turn off this show and return to watch it in 5 years. They’re spinning the same storylines! #nothingtoseehere
It’s been 5 years already , it’s still the same
and it will be, wenn Kelly and Beth are adults.
Yep, 2019 they are still waiting for waffler to decide what he wants. Disgusting!!
I liked this Hope way better than the new hope and she looks better
The old Hope is a better actress and has a little bit more of a backbone. The new Hope is suffocatingly goody-two-shoes. Whenever she tries to act strong, she comes off as unhinged. I’ve never been a Hope fan, but I wish they’d bring the old Hope back
I liked the old Hope as well.
@@ceciliadoloresroberts1243 yes this Hope is more likeabke and has a better personality all around. She is stronger and she is also so not arrogant toward others when she comes out on top
Same
I am really not a Hope-fan, but Kim Matulla was nice and sweat. In her role, she also wore cute clothes that matched her.
The new one is really: boring. That long face and always the bored, meaningless expression. In addition, the terrible, colorless, boring clothes from the 80s. Dreadful.
Bill would have had 4 grandchildren if Steffy hadn't lost Liam's first baby. Or Hope hadn't lost Wyatt's baby.
That's correct!😊
I heard that hope didn't lose wyatt's baby.
@@moniquedaughtry So do you think the child was put up for adoption or is it in school?
Bill 5
Hope needs her baby back! The baby switch storyline is irritating! Five years later, Steffy had her baby! I can’t wait for the truth to comes out about Beth. Steffy and Hope definitely needs a baby.
So my opinion of this show is this in the nutshell. Hope and Liam deserve to be rooted for in the beginning because there was manipulation from people like Bill and Steffy. In this particular instance though Steffy and Liam all the way. She was carrying his child and honestly was more mature and less selfish than Hope in this particular instance. In the beginning Hope was the less selfish one but the roles reversed.
Brooke and hope was angry that Steffy ''traped'' Liam when they got married on the mountain and hope was stuck but that's the exact thing their doing to Steffy but like their acting like their saints again
Tianna Hook
Exactly 😐
They are aloud but no one else
Not really. Liam had all the information when he almost married Hope. He knew that Steffy is waiting at home for him and he would still go through with marrying Hope which he confirmed in a conversation with Bill... It's absolutely not the same. Sorry.
Brooke is so delusional asking herself how could Liam do this... What fantasy world she live in...
Felicia Minnis
You should ask what planet she's from. 🙄
Getting Pregnant to keep a man is what Brooke would have done.
Taylor is not messy she just keep it 100 she's not doing the stuff that Brooke is doing.I don't understand how broke could want to be with Bill as much as he dog her kids out really
That's because Brooke is the proverbial dingbat. Intelligent, but dingy.
@@mstriplethreat89roguegodde79 you are right 👍👍👍👍👍
Taylor is very messy always playing the victim to get sympathy never holding herself accountable or Ridge for the demise of her marriage. i woman scorn is always messy. Brooke chose her destiny over dollar Bill so u r living in the past.
thank u... Taylor also had lot her memory and met some prince from Morocco and she had abandoned her kids for him, then he came back to sweep her away when she and Brooke were shot by Sheila so he faked her death trying to save her from pending death. Ridge had no choice but to move on, so he did with Brooke who helped him with the twins.. Taylor then comes back thinking time stood still and tells everyone who will listen that Brooke broke her marriage up. then as u said she got involved with the same guys as Brooke except Deacon Sharp.
@@darnellanders8768 excuse me you are the biggest liar. Taylor never abondoned her kids. She was presume dead twice. One of them because Brook caused Taylor to be shot by Sheila, which caused Taylor to lose time with her husband and kids. If Ridge had known Taylor was alive and being held in Omar's palace he would of never been with Brook. He would of go and rescue her and bring her home to the Kids. Brook abondoned her kids many times. Her kids were taken away from her by CPS for being a bad Mother.
Brooke you faked pregnancy with ridge Brooke went to the bathroom than comes out then says she just miscarried and now judging Steffy expect the baby is real this time
Tianna Hook
Brooke was always very calculating. And a hypocrite
@Christina Bonvillian yes very true
Christina Bonvillian agreed
Seeing hopeless cry is so beautiful
I always wanted steffy and liam together
The thumbnail alone show how arrogant Brooke is
The show need more men
Yes
@@angelasmodell3350 they got a lot of going with each other mens. These shows are looking trashy.
yeah right that wouldn't stop Steffy from going after Hope's boyfriends, she tried with Oliver who wasn't as hard up then she seduced Liam because she picked up on the fact that Hope wasn't putting out till marriage.
Ideally yes. It also needs more women but the problem is that the Bold is a 30-minute show (including commercial breaks) so they can't have a larger cast like Days of our Lives and the Young and Restless.
I wish the baby had of lived so very sad it was there world
But didn't she have a baby in the other further episodes of this season????
Why can't the Logan's admit that Liam may love Hope, but Liam is in love with Steffie. Hope is hopeless😜 n Steffie is Strong 💪
Agreed
Steffy absolutely needed her a baby! She don’t need to be with Liam forever. All she need for him to co-parenting his child. Steffy is his baby mama.
Hope you get married to Lima . But you throw way Lima to the side
Taylor to Bill, "We're grandparents." Years later, shoots Bill in his back.
😄yeah!
@Nellie Cooper You're ignorant. Hope wasn't pregnant when Ridge brought her back for Brooke.
If you want to get technical,Steffy was the one who had to get a paternity test on Kelly and hide it from Liam until she got caught. Some Steffy fans can't do the math with a womans pregnancy. Lol
Yes hope was always somebody else that made you take off your ring and run away from Liam the second you are about to get married.
The Senior Bell's should have left it in their wills that the writers must continue along the storyline in their absence. It made more sense under their penmanship. It just goes to show that gifts are not a birthright; despite a family legacy.
Liam loved Steffy and Hope..his heart was divided..Steffy was carrying his child..why would he NOT be with her..she was not a one night stand or someone who he had casual sex with..yes he may have loved Hope but why throw away the chance to start out being a nuclear family with mom and dad at home with a person you love...I just feel like he was already conflicted between two women and when a baby gets thrown in, of course he was going to nudge toward being the family man he didnt have growing up
Until Today His Heart is Dividend between Steffy + Aspen & Kelly and Hope& Beth He Love both but Steffy more and He is Hopes rescue Ranger
Why did Steffy have to get on that damn motorcycle?
Hope wouldn't stop hassling a very pregnant Steffy and Steffy was trying to get away from her. If people blame Quinn for hope losing her baby then hope is to blame for Steffy losing hers
@@nataliearreola6361 Hope also shoved Steffy into her desk and knocked her down while pregnant with Aspen. Hope can be physically abusive as well as verbally abusive to Steffy. Hope is a very selfish person but she covers it up with the good girl persona. Steffy is the only one who has been selfless and has handed Liam on a silver platter for Hope. Hope is the one who has destroyed her own relationships with Liam and it's usually because he can't live up to her desire to have this perfect little fairytale life. If Hope wants something she just expects everyone to give it to her. When they don't she can't deal with it. She uses guilt to manipulate everyone who stands in her way. Guilt is a very powerful and effective way to manipulate someone and it's also a very subtle way to get what you want. That is one major difference between Hope and Steffy. Steffy never uses guilt to get what she wants. While Steffy has manipulated the situation the first time she married liam. She learned from her mistake and has grown up. All the mistakes she has made since then were never based upon manipulation.
Ugh now I remember why I hated Kim as Hope. She just didnt play the role as well. And the cries were just so fake and forced looking.
there you go logans Steffy gave liam a choice but he still wanted Steffy
Hey Brookah get lost hhh of course your going to say that Stephi planned the pregnancy happy crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love looking back at this episodes
Me too
Hope and Brooke both perpetuate the dumb blond stereotype. They try to change reality when things don't go there way. Accusing Steffy of planning this when her and Liam were in a committed relationship and living together is as stupid as it gets. There was no way of Steffy knowing that Rick lied to Hope, so why would she need to plan this pregnancy to trap Liam? I swear that Hope and Brooke don't even have a brain God gave a goat.
Am I the only one who thought Hope was hilarious at the end?
So sick of Hope she is so like Brooke in so many ways
She's not like her mother...you're reaching. Steffy is more like Brooke than Hope is.
Kerry Crawford no the hell she ain’t
She is not like Brooke Steffy is more like Brooke than Hope. What bugs me about Hope is that she doesn’t see her worth enough to leave Liam alone because he is disloyal at every turn and fickle as hell and really deserves to be by himself. Brooke and Steffy are two of a kind though messing with the father, son, brother, cousin, uncle, etc I’m exaggerating only a little on Brooke’s end lol 😂
Constantly whining like a child
She got what she deserve . For pushing Liam to Steffy arms in the first place
This is too unreal, surreal. I wish I would go back and forth over a confused fella. Liam, gets on my nerves. If either of those women had any sense they would have left his ass at the alter a long time ago. TOO MUCH DAYTIME DRAMA FOR ME.
Oh, what a crock Bill, "When a man makes a family he has to take responsibility". Ask Liam, and Wyatt's mother, how they feel about that statement. And who knows how many other love children he may have scattered around!
Bill says that but ends up having an affair with his sister-in-law and leaving his wife for Brooke
Man, Brook knows how to rub it in
Steffy & Liam are soulmates
Toxic is what they are
@@patricialarsen659 hope & Liam are toxic and boring an they sex ain't shit I see why Liam left hope
ha ha what a crock..
I know it was sad when Steff lost the baby I like her and Liam together
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Booker you should know better hhh remember Ridge left you to be with Taylor because he found out his a father hhh he told you he loves Taylor because you kept telling him he doesn't have to be with Taylor because of Thomas hhh Ridge told you two parents should be together raising a child ☺☺☺