That's awesome, man! I started drinking the REBT kool-aid about a month ago and working on using it on myself, and I'm also considering perhaps becoming an REBT therapist in the back of my mind.
"If you only stuck with I'd like very much to do well buttt I never have to, then you wouldn't then disturb yourself." -Ellis Beautiful statement, great man.
Even though i didn’t get REBT as a psychotherapy, i’ve really got huge benefit from CBT as a psychology student. We owe so many things to these two legendary men: Aaron Beck and Albert Ellis .
This 9 min 15 sec video change the course of my life and has had me living at a much higher level with a consistent joy that is now such a rock solid part of who I am...I dare say it is nearly indestructible. It has been severely tested with personal illness and tragedy that would of put the old me into a state of despair. I believe the only thing that can destroy it would be some kind of mental illness that erodes, corrupts or destroys this operating system I built...ie: Alzheimers, dementia etc. And that is the analogy I would use that Albert is conveying here. You need to remove and delete the old operating system given to you by yourself, your environment, parents and the world etc and install the new operating system with this philosophy/idea/rationality as the core component
REBT is, in my opinion and experience, a superb form of help for a great many people. I have found that it was very useful both in my own life, and in the lives of others. Thank you for posting this video.
Thinking rationally is often different from “positive thinking,” in that it is a realistic assessment of the situation, with a view towards rectifying the problem if possible.” -Albert Ellis
What a wonderful perspective. I encourage all those who watch to share their viewpoints and reflect up on the possibilities of his teaching while still opening oneself to many perspectives. In the end, the result is the pursuit of being a good and virtuous being.
Jeffrey, I am watching this older video as I do a research paper on Rational Emotive therapy. Naturally, your channel is an obvious place to look. It is really great to see how you have changed over years. Lovely- thank you
Interesting point! But the idea is not to ignore or accept real adversity--it's to free oneself to respond to it rationally rather than self-destructively. Accepting rather than emotionally rejecting adversity is a first step toward handling it. A depressed person says of oppression, "This can't be happening. I can't function if this is happening," and goes to bed. A person with better emotional tools says, "Oppression is here. What can I do?" Denial and acceptance are very different things.
I appreciate Albert Ellis creating a new therapeutic school of thought and paving the way for CBT. He was undoubtedly an innovative thinker. I’m not sure why he’s underrated. Perhaps it’s because he’s not exactly soft-spoken. I don’t mind that because he’s upfront and direct. Psychology is ultimately rooted in philosophy, and the two are subjective. The history of humanity has shown that people are always searching for knowledge and ways to live a better life, and Albert Ellis was certainly contributing to that age-old quest.
The R in REBT: Rationality; an existential framework for self-disconnecting oneself from the hereditary "good/bad ethical dichotomy," bad as it may be, towards a full fledged self-justified ethical system I.e. Nietzschian Relativism, along with its moral-ambiguity ethical system. I Love it! LOL
You MUST treat me reasonably, considerately, and lovingly, or else you're no good. This very common form of musty thinking leads to resentment, hostility, and violence.
Rationality and the scientific method must be made a compulsory part of primary education for all. That is the only way we can imagine a more harmonious future, and one free from pitfalls of our own thought.
I thought Ellis said he got help from behavior therapy in his 90s to help him approach young ladies LOL. I misheard him, he said when he was 19. I love this show Thinking Allowed, so diverse with thinkers of all kinds, even the wildly speculative and non scientific ones.
REBT doesn't invalidate those responses. It does, however, force people to find out if those responses are helpful and - if they're not helpful - gives a way for getting into a more helpful response set. I think that there's a limit on what can be done with this method of working. Everything has limits. But - for most things, it's been demonstrated to be very efficacious.
Unfortunately some of us were raised by cluster B patents who used guilt for trying to move on and until we become aware of the dynamics many of us remain stuck. Obviously once aware we can practice everything you speak.
Agreed! I took years to overcome the influences and guilt driven behaviour of my mum. I know she did her best, so I’ve learned both forgiveness and to move on.
I'm about to start studying towards becoming a counsellor and while I find Ellis interesting, I'm not entirely sure it is as practical as people suggest. For me, the person centred approach works best as it doesn't invalidate the inherent fear and dread within clients which REBT seems to. I'm all for people changing problematic aspects of their thinking but personally i find the Person centred approach more helpful in that process. REBT is still fascinating though.
PCT is good for a strong therapeutic alliance but takes no action. And this Is where Ellis decided to resolve that through REBT by adding both unconditional positive regard and providing solutions.
@underbedbeast I've read his books and I believe he would say there's no reason you MUST stop disturbing yourself, however much you strongly prefer to stop disturbing.
What REBT sounds like to me is an ideal paradigm for oppression. If there were a legitimate cause of a person's distress and you were trying to ignore that fact, you would tell them that it's all in their head, that they could become happy & rich through pure willpower if they /really/ wanted it, so it's their fault they don't. While people have some problems that are self-made, other people have complicated economic and social barriers such as poverty and the oppression of women & blacks.
Yeah, REBT won't stop bad things from happening, but it can help accept the reality of a situation and significantly reduce disturbance. There's a difference between healthy, helpful negative emotions like sadness and fear, and unhelpful unhealthy negative emotions like despair and terror.
Alot of rehab facilities are FINALLY moving away from 12 step "pray away your addiction" garbage and adopting treatment plans based on his teachings....
So I haven't read his book but just wanted to ask does he give concrete advice on how to deal with musterbation or are we simply to resign ourselves to the fact that most people aren't interested in what we expect of them?
Being stuck in a desert and knowing its irrational to demand an oasis does not remove the pain of dying from thirst and lack of water. Cbt can be great to change behavior which is not efficient but I dont know how effective it is in making people feel better about deprivation which are not chosen beliefs but inborn biological desires which cannot be switched on and off like a light switch. I find mindfulness oriented and motivational oriented therapies much more honest. You cant just change what you value and how much you value it by virtue of rationality and knowledge alone you can know death is a reality for all people does not make loss less painful or less frightening if confronting it via direct experience ACT more honest more compassionate and I feel better suited for people experiencing real problems and to the extent problems are not real cbt does a better job. Of confronting And disputing false beliefs via empirical evidence rather than focusing on forcing a stoic philosophy on people
well i practice REBT and i have to practice in vito the problems. So the way to do is thinking emotional and behavior like cbt. if only as he said: speak is nice only of outside and practice could give better results. and go out side is the same as CBt does. the problem with CBT is that need to be understanding and REBT is easy to learn and to do.
What qualification are you doing or going to be doing? Hopefully it's a mixed type of course that allows you to find a method that - whilst being scientifically sound - still lets you decide somewhat on the methods you'll use. BTW, if you want to understand the sorts of things at the belief stage in Ellis' ABC-DEmodel, you might wanna check out George Kelly's Personal Construct Psychology... seriously canny stuff, that is!
While I agree with the holistic approach to philosophy and psychotherapy I don't necessarily agree with the statement that the majority of depressed people is a result of upbringing or society, people who are really depressed hate themselves.
i dont understand how people can say this guy is a lunatic or creep. What he's saying is a matter-of-fact. Freud's philosophy is very similar with more focus on sex
You could read and buy his book "A Guide to Rational Living." I did buy and read it 38 years ago. I read it from a library before I bought it. There is a UA-cam video that writes it down on the screen.
@@ronaldlindeman6136 Thanks. Unfortunately, my local library didn't have it, and I was assigned to write about this on short enough notice that I couldn't get a copy of the book in time. I just replayed the video about 6 times over and over again, taking notes until I thought I had it all. Videos are just not a strength in my learning style.
@@gretchencemborski1872 Sure. I was going back and forth, should I write the comment or not write the comment, what I wrote was trivial, you would have thought of those things.
I did tried a book by his student ,i applied it really regularly ,it did not helped at all . I don't think Albert ellis insight is correct that our feelings are due to our thinking .
@@MrMattias87 i think the evidence is due to confusing correlations with causations . CBT does not work at all ,nor does rebt or other similar therapies. But in the formal news we mostly see favorable news because it is a kind of taboo to say CBT ,rebt have not worked on someone ,but if we just causally scan the internet there are so many cases in which people say these therapies did not worked on them, that these therapies are superficial ,and even many doctors now think that the evidence about cognitive therapies effectiveness might be not so clear,
@@franny6073 i have not only checked him but so many cognitive psychologists by applying their teachings after reading their books and corresponding with them ,cognitive psychology is witchcraft .It does not work ,you do not need to search alot ,just scan the internet and you will see so many people being regular with cbt and rebt and similar therapies for years and they are still suffering .Juts apply cbt tools while keeping context completely same when you are dealing with something ,those cbt or rebt tools won't work at all. Ellis is totally wrong. Check Dr jim Byrne to look at some of the criticisms of rebt and cbt .
Shout out to my man Albert Ellis who has not only emotionally changed my life but also inspired me to pursue psychology as a career.
Always wonderful to have healers in the field!
That's awesome, man! I started drinking the REBT kool-aid about a month ago and working on using it on myself, and I'm also considering perhaps becoming an REBT therapist in the back of my mind.
@@jeffjgarrett269 I like your attitude. I am JUST starting to learn about Ellis' work, and so far, I am impressed! 😀
did ellis believe in god
@@heisenbergw.w8247 he was a devout atheist
Ellis was a philosopher. Don't know how his impact in our thoughts today are so underrated.
"If you only stuck with I'd like very much to do well buttt I never have to, then you wouldn't then disturb yourself." -Ellis Beautiful statement, great man.
Even though i didn’t get REBT as a psychotherapy, i’ve really got huge benefit from CBT as a psychology student. We owe so many things to these two legendary men: Aaron Beck and Albert Ellis .
This 9 min 15 sec video change the course of my life and has had me living at a much higher level with a consistent joy that is now such a rock solid part of who I am...I dare say it is nearly indestructible. It has been severely tested with personal illness and tragedy that would of put the old me into a state of despair. I believe the only thing that can destroy it would be some kind of mental illness that erodes, corrupts or destroys this operating system I built...ie: Alzheimers, dementia etc. And that is the analogy I would use that Albert is conveying here. You need to remove and delete the old operating system given to you by yourself, your environment, parents and the world etc and install the new operating system with this philosophy/idea/rationality as the core component
Dr. Ellis had the most amazing way of thinking and rationalizing and the most beautiful smile
He hated people of faith and believed that all religiosity was sick. He was wrong.
"you normally sit on your rump and don't use that power" lol. Love the way Ellis so casually and calmly says all those hilarious lines
REBT is, in my opinion and experience, a superb form of help for a great many people. I have found that it was very useful both in my own life, and in the lives of others. Thank you for posting this video.
TheDoctor1225 then listen to it again until you understand it.
Thinking rationally is often different from “positive thinking,” in that it is a realistic assessment of the situation, with a view towards rectifying the problem if possible.”
-Albert Ellis
What a wonderful perspective. I encourage all those who watch to share their viewpoints and reflect up on the possibilities of his teaching while still opening oneself to many perspectives. In the end, the result is the pursuit of being a good and virtuous being.
Thank you!!!! I'm studying this in school. Listening to this may help my life and passing a test! Haha
Albert Ellis is the greatest psychologist, he just doesn't have the bedside manner; such a creative thinker
Jeffrey, I am watching this older video as I do a research paper on Rational Emotive therapy. Naturally, your channel is an obvious place to look. It is really great to see how you have changed over years. Lovely- thank you
The audio and video quality of this content is excellent. It's the best recording of Ellis I've seen. Thank you for providing it :)
What a great man he was, I realise that after my sessions in 2022.
He just said Freud and a gene for INefficiency O.o love him
Most people don’t actually read Freud
Such a beautiful rhythm to his speech
Interesting point! But the idea is not to ignore or accept real adversity--it's to free oneself to respond to it rationally rather than self-destructively. Accepting rather than emotionally rejecting adversity is a first step toward handling it. A depressed person says of oppression, "This can't be happening. I can't function if this is happening," and goes to bed. A person with better emotional tools says, "Oppression is here. What can I do?" Denial and acceptance are very different things.
This curmudgeon and his RET has literally saved my life.
Brian DiStefano it changed a lot of prisoners lives too. This needs to be taught in all prisons.
Problem is all the work you have to do in a short amount of time but then better than years lying on a couch
me too
Mine to! :D
@@brianparks2039 What do you mean, all the work in a short amount of time?
I appreciate Albert Ellis creating a new therapeutic school of thought and paving the way for CBT. He was undoubtedly an innovative thinker. I’m not sure why he’s underrated. Perhaps it’s because he’s not exactly soft-spoken. I don’t mind that because he’s upfront and direct. Psychology is ultimately rooted in philosophy, and the two are subjective. The history of humanity has shown that people are always searching for knowledge and ways to live a better life, and Albert Ellis was certainly contributing to that age-old quest.
Wow, this guy is awesome. I ordered the full show on DVD. I wish I could have gone to one of his Friday night sessions.
REBT has changed my life. Working with someone who had the good fortune of working under him @ the AE institute...
Thank´s Al for book,A Guide To Ration.Living,bought i Sweden 1977.This book help me a lot,my best friend ever...
The R in REBT:
Rationality; an existential framework for self-disconnecting oneself from the hereditary "good/bad ethical dichotomy," bad as it may be, towards a full fledged self-justified ethical system I.e. Nietzschian Relativism, along with its moral-ambiguity ethical system.
I Love it! LOL
i read his book when I was in my 20 s . It helped me like no other ! ty
Which book
The very best video on YT!
You MUST treat me reasonably, considerately, and lovingly, or else you're no good. This very common form of musty thinking leads to resentment, hostility, and violence.
Rationality and the scientific method must be made a compulsory part of primary education for all. That is the only way we can imagine a more harmonious future, and one free from pitfalls of our own thought.
Love you sir for your great work
I love it when you find gems on UA-cam.
Works every time...look for your shoulds, musts, ought to, etc.and change those thoughts.
I thought Ellis said he got help from behavior therapy in his 90s to help him approach young ladies LOL. I misheard him, he said when he was 19.
I love this show Thinking Allowed, so diverse with thinkers of all kinds, even the wildly speculative and non scientific ones.
I could not listen to this guy talk for than 2min....but darnit Albert you're a pioneer and have very valid points.
The master. A creative genius. Beck was smart scientifically but Ellis is the GOAT
Around the early 90's I saw Albert for about 6 months and this video brings me back - Thanks.
How was that experience?
wow!
Superb video, much more interesting and (i found) easier to understand than reading another book. Thanks for posting
REBT doesn't invalidate those responses. It does, however, force people to find out if those responses are helpful and - if they're not helpful - gives a way for getting into a more helpful response set. I think that there's a limit on what can be done with this method of working. Everything has limits. But - for most things, it's been demonstrated to be very efficacious.
WOW HE THINKS PEOPLE DETERMINE THEIR OWN EMOTIONS??? AMAZING UNBELIEVABLE THIS MAN IS A GENIUS
Unfortunately some of us were raised by cluster B patents who used guilt for trying to move on and until we become aware of the dynamics many of us remain stuck. Obviously once aware we can practice everything you speak.
Agreed! I took years to overcome the influences and guilt driven behaviour of my mum. I know she did her best, so I’ve learned both forgiveness and to move on.
One of the best things about REBT and CBT is that they dethroned the nonsense of Psychoanalysis.
Great interview
read the book and it was very insightful.
You need to be radical to challenge irrational beliefs. Resistance displays the irrationality.
This is Golden
It never seizes to amaze me that EVERY disturbance a person feels, falls into the 3 musturbation examples: I, You, The World must...
This makes sense
The emphasis on his words!!
awesome man and work
Thank you for uploading this video!
i love this man
Nothing must be, if it isn't.
Thank you 4 the video!!!!
reallllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy this is my favourite
Thank you Mr Ellis
Amazing video !
legend
His idea totally matches the Buddha’s teaching. He’s surly a great buddhism.
Really didnt know buddha thought this
I'm about to start studying towards becoming a counsellor and while I find Ellis interesting, I'm not entirely sure it is as practical as people suggest. For me, the person centred approach works best as it doesn't invalidate the inherent fear and dread within clients which REBT seems to. I'm all for people changing problematic aspects of their thinking but personally i find the Person centred approach more helpful in that process. REBT is still fascinating though.
is because you like the money, the therapy centred approach of roger(probably it s modern now)is almost therapy of room and less of action.
PCT is good for a strong therapeutic alliance but takes no action. And this Is where Ellis decided to resolve that through REBT by adding both unconditional positive regard and providing solutions.
this is very basic explanation and very true thanks
Thanks
@underbedbeast I've read his books and I believe he would say there's no reason you MUST stop disturbing yourself, however much you strongly prefer to stop disturbing.
We are so complicated and weird creatures... it can go on and on...
the way he spoke is kinda cute. 😂shout out to Ellis!
Here from the antidote 😊
what would had it been Albert Ellis and George Carlin?
INTERVIEWER: THROWS X NUMBER OF QUESTIONS..
ALBERT SIR: GIVING X NUMBER OF ANSWERS FOR ONE QUESTION 😬
😆
Where is the full video
He is a funny man. Indeed.
What REBT sounds like to me is an ideal paradigm for oppression. If there were a legitimate cause of a person's distress and you were trying to ignore that fact, you would tell them that it's all in their head, that they could become happy & rich through pure willpower if they /really/ wanted it, so it's their fault they don't.
While people have some problems that are self-made, other people have complicated economic and social barriers such as poverty and the oppression of women & blacks.
who the hell uses THERAPY for poverty and racism? It's a way to live life better, not neglect wrongdoings of others.
Yeah, REBT won't stop bad things from happening, but it can help accept the reality of a situation and significantly reduce disturbance. There's a difference between healthy, helpful negative emotions like sadness and fear, and unhelpful unhealthy negative emotions like despair and terror.
Lovable rogue.
Alot of rehab facilities are FINALLY moving away from 12 step "pray away your addiction" garbage and adopting treatment plans based on his teachings....
Erik Edmonds what ever works! Faith and philosophy and service
So I haven't read his book but just wanted to ask does he give concrete advice on how to deal with musterbation or are we simply to resign ourselves to the fact that most people aren't interested in what we expect of them?
3:57 that chuckle LMAO
Being stuck in a desert and knowing its irrational to demand an oasis does not remove the pain of dying from thirst and lack of water. Cbt can be great to change behavior which is not efficient but I dont know how effective it is in making people feel better about deprivation which are not chosen beliefs but inborn biological desires which cannot be switched on and off like a light switch. I find mindfulness oriented and motivational oriented therapies much more honest. You cant just change what you value and how much you value it by virtue of rationality and knowledge alone you can know death is a reality for all people does not make loss less painful or less frightening if confronting it via direct experience ACT more honest more compassionate and I feel better suited for people experiencing real problems and to the extent problems are not real cbt does a better job. Of confronting And disputing false beliefs via empirical evidence rather than focusing on forcing a stoic philosophy on people
well i practice REBT and i have to practice in vito the problems. So the way to do is thinking emotional and behavior like cbt. if only as he said: speak is nice only of outside and practice could give better results. and go out side is the same as CBt does. the problem with CBT is that need to be understanding and REBT is easy to learn and to do.
Welcome.
What qualification are you doing or going to be doing? Hopefully it's a mixed type of course that allows you to find a method that - whilst being scientifically sound - still lets you decide somewhat on the methods you'll use. BTW, if you want to understand the sorts of things at the belief stage in Ellis' ABC-DEmodel, you might wanna check out George Kelly's Personal Construct Psychology... seriously canny stuff, that is!
2023
Here and alone
He was a genius.
While I agree with the holistic approach to philosophy and psychotherapy I don't necessarily agree with the statement that the majority of depressed people is a result of upbringing or society, people who are really depressed hate themselves.
Stan Lee
FeelsBadMan
ACT makes more sense to me. I am starting to believe that CBT is not the best therapeutic approach for my problems.
ACT is pretty effective along with REBT
i dont understand how people can say this guy is a lunatic or creep. What he's saying is a matter-of-fact. Freud's philosophy is very similar with more focus on sex
+Daniel Malanga LOL, I don't know if 'Freud's philosopy is very similar' is a compliment. Freud = a fraud.
Because he didn't hand out milk and cookies,,,,,,,,didn't want to be a mommy
"..my phobia of public speaking and approaching young females:" Hilarious!
ha, Ellis rulez!
It's all attitude
good stuff!
Did he really start talking about masturbation there in the middle?
I like him
what a mastermind :)
This guy is great, but are we sure he isn't Jim Varney doing a character?
Where can one buy/download this DVD from?
大変残念なことですが、日本にはエリス博士のように人格的にも優れた心理学者が一人もいません。
Is there a transcript for this that I can read rather than watch? I retain so much better when I read things instead of hear or watch them.
You could read and buy his book "A Guide to Rational Living." I did buy and read it 38 years ago. I read it from a library before I bought it. There is a UA-cam video that writes it down on the screen.
@@ronaldlindeman6136 Thanks. Unfortunately, my local library didn't have it, and I was assigned to write about this on short enough notice that I couldn't get a copy of the book in time. I just replayed the video about 6 times over and over again, taking notes until I thought I had it all. Videos are just not a strength in my learning style.
@@gretchencemborski1872 Sure. I was going back and forth, should I write the comment or not write the comment, what I wrote was trivial, you would have thought of those things.
Gotta love the REBT
Haha this guy is so amazing.
I think he's a bit disturbed by the way he talks hahaha 😂
Being oppressed isn't an action. Laziness is more of an action that being oppressed.
I did tried a book by his student ,i applied it really regularly ,it did not helped at all . I don't think Albert ellis insight is correct that our feelings are due to our thinking .
There is evidence from cognitive neuroscience that it does as well as our physical sensations triggering our thoughts & emotions.
@@MrMattias87 i think the evidence is due to confusing correlations with causations . CBT does not work at all ,nor does rebt or other similar therapies. But in the formal news we mostly see favorable news because it is a kind of taboo to say CBT ,rebt have not worked on someone ,but if we just causally scan the internet there are so many cases in which people say these therapies did not worked on them, that these therapies are superficial ,and even many doctors now think that the evidence about cognitive therapies effectiveness might be not so clear,
Ellis is so right...Che k it out more deeply.
@@franny6073 i have not only checked him but so many cognitive psychologists by applying their teachings after reading their books and corresponding with them ,cognitive psychology is witchcraft .It does not work ,you do not need to search alot ,just scan the internet and you will see so many people being regular with cbt and rebt and similar therapies for years and they are still suffering .Juts apply cbt tools while keeping context completely same when you are dealing with something ,those cbt or rebt tools won't work at all. Ellis is totally wrong. Check Dr jim Byrne to look at some of the criticisms of rebt and cbt .
It's a bit like "How to be an alchemist?"
Thou must er bate , bate all thou wilt
yep, and this goes with not being a "shouldhead". :o)