I love that this references Kirk's time on the Farragut. Many people who started watching Star Trek with the Abrams-verse movies didn't realize that initially Kirk had a long career before getting the Enterprise, instead of getting her straight out of the Academy. This included his inital term as a junior officer on the same USS Farragut culminating with being tactical officer, second officer on the USS Republic, Second Officer on the USS THresher, Chief Engineer on USS Aeolus, Detachment commander on Federation colony Shad VII during amid reports of possible Klingon incursions, and a previous First Officer stint on the USS Eagle.
memory beta has a good compilation on kirk and everything he did before TOS. Starfleet Academy student officer 2250-2251 cadet USS Republic 2251 ensign (provisional) Starfleet Academy student instructor 2252-2254 lieutenant USS Farragut junior officer 2254-2257 USS Excalibur 2250s USS Stalwart USS Constitution second officer 2257-2258 USS Tresher 2258 USS Aeolus 2258-2259 lieutenant commander USS Bonhomme Richard first officer 2259 USS Alexander Shad advisor 2259-2260 USS El Dorado first officer 2260 USS Eagle 2260-2261 USS Mizuki 2261 USS Aloia commanding officer 2261-2262 commander USS Oxford 2261-2262 USS Lydia Sutherland 2262-2263 USS Saladin 2263-2264 captain USS Enterprise 2264-2270
How much of this will actually be canon though remains to be seen. As standing, all that’s known is that he served on the Farragut and the Republic. Your point is definitely understood though about actual depth to his career. I do hope in the next seasons to come we get even more backstory. There’s still gaps and it’d be nice to hear about more.
Exactly. I actually thought it was a huge mistake of the films to jump straight into the whole - way too young! - crew on The Enterprise. We saw Kirk having to take command in the first film. Fine. But it would have been more realistic to have him on the Farragut in Into Darkness, and over the course of that film and the next film, he puts the band back together. Plus Chekov, who shouldn't have shown up until the 3rd film. The producers had no patience, and no faith in the audience, so we got films that were derivative and shallow, instead of actually fulfilling the goal of prequel: show us stuff about the characters we love we haven't seen before! (Yes, 2009 did this a little with the Starfleet Academy sequence which was , like, 10 minutes of the film.)
Still, Kirk seems to give the impression that the Farragut and its class are less shiny and fancy. I have a feeling this class of ship like the Miranda is the workhorse of the Federation
Sibling rivalry never fully goes away. Sam may not be on the fast track of his Starfleet career, but he does have a family of his own. Sadly, in TOS, Sam and one of his sons are killed, which does hurt James Kirk.
@@natekarpowicz7564 In the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of", it's mentioned that George and his wife had two sons. I'd be willing to wager one of the boys was also killed, along with his parents, in "Operation: Annihilate", with Peter being the only survivor.
@@purefoldnz3070 It's New Trek -- everything looks goofy. George's moustache harks back to the TOS episode "Operation:Annihilate". The VERY brief glimpse we get of the deceased George Kirk (a made-overed William Shatner) shows he had a moustache.
It's ironic that Sam, as the older brother and their father's namesake, was probably the one James felt he had to compete with to win his father's approval. Which likely motivated the ambition and success that his brother now resents.
I kind of had this conflict with my younger sister. My parents are very driven and successful. Both opened their own business and made money off of them. My sister entered the medical field and very driven like them.... has her own huge house. I on the other hand am laid back easy going and happy working a 9to5 job and going to my small house out in the woods. I'm the black sheep of the family lol
Really loved the sibling rivalry between these two and the way they played off each other authentically. I really hope they give these two an episode in season three. And if they somehow snuck in a Hemsworrb cameo in the series finale when Kirk gets command the internet would break
It's a damn shame Sam going to die in TOS, because he's turning out to be an excellent character, he's basically a nerdy version of Kirk but still awesome, the relationship between he and his brother is touching yet tragic in hindsight considering what happened to him. I give the props to the people behind the scenes props for making a minor and largely obscure character greater exposure and developing him into something more.
We know so little about George Kirk Sr. (Besides his death in the Kelvin Timeline and a few references from time to time). I’d be interested if we got a prequel film that goes over Kirk’s life on the Kelvin before James and Sam (that is if Hemsworth is up to come back to Trek after over a decade on Marvel).
Or just a what's the story with your head of security...and Sam saying can't you contain that libido of yours like EVER?!]] Also, when the camera kept panning out of 10-4 or the mess hall or whatever...I expected to see La'an hesitantly observing Jim and Spock and Uhura.
I know that it will never happen, but my dream story on SNW would be a throwback. Jim Kirk, a Lieutenant on the Farragut, when it’s attacked by the cloud creature from Tycho IV. Jim is forced to take command when the Captain (Garrovick) and nearly 2/3 of the crew are killed. It’s based on the original series episode called “Obsession”.
When you have conflicts with your sibling, it's never really about the announced subject. That's just the catalyst to stir up the memory of every fight, every slight, every resentment over a whole lifetime
I'll say the actor could do with some real meat to get that broad shoulder thing that both Pine and shatner have. Slavs and Ashkenazis just can't be broad shouldered without some animal protien in their diet. Only way to become a Chad like Shatner is.@@TrevorJNagy
0:55 *Wow,* "what" would have been a better response. Seemed like such a nice meeting in the transporter room, to turn into this brother rivalry? It really doesn't make any sense. As Sam went into a very *DEEP* science training as JT went the path of Starfleet Command. It makes no sense that their would be any *Brotherly* rivalry. But again it doesn't really matter, it's a great show! All of them are, but this one is really a great storyline. I hope they run it for as long as possible. Could be 1,2,3, years before Pike's accident but that could be 10/15 years of Shows! Could only hope, *MORE Sci-fi!*
sam is just jealous of jiim but at the same time... we saw this with picard in tapestry dream if you're in the sciences ...you're basically capped at how far you can go unless you're like the best in that particular field which i assume sam is not. as for james being XO of hte farragut.... shouldn't he be at least a lt. commander to commander by now?
he mentions in the clip( 1:00 ) that it's not official yet, since he still needs to train his replacement(as tactical officer IIRC), which will take a few months. once said training is complete and he's *officially* made XO, he'll likely get a Lieutenant Commander stripe
The actor playing James Kirk seems a bit older based on cannon... from what I understand, Kirk became a lieutenant on the Farragut at age 21 and first office by 26... Paul Wesley is 41.. and doesn't look the part of a young, ambitions Kirk, who became captain of the Enterprise by age 32
@@lynnfuson6285 From what i saw on here to late they killed him O_O unless they just made it look like hes dead if they did kill Kirk on the show they just created the worst kind of paradox in Star Trek
Jim isn't actually wrong. Sam should be living for his own happiness, and not their father's. Whether Jim wants his father's approval or not, he clearly enjoys doing what he does.
I'm sorry, I understand what they are aiming for here and, yes, fraternal tension can certainly be a lifelong phenomenon but... this is a conversation between 20 year old not between people who are obviously 40.
Ive been watching Star Trek for a while now. I never knew kirk had a brother. I didn't remember him getting mentioned in any of the TOS films. I wonder if they will mention SPocks brother at all. Or do we just pretend Star Trek 5 never happened?
He appears in the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" (spoiler alert - He's dead when we see him. It's just William Shatner laid on the ground with a glued on mustache)
yeah, Sam is in TOS as a dead body, and in the Kelvin movies I belive there was a deleted scene, or a scene they planed to shoot but never did, with him. As for Sybok, he was teased in the first season of SNW and I think we saw like a shot of his back.
You have to watch the TOS episode, Operation: Annihilate. Sam and his wife were killed during a parasite attack at a research outpost. Their son, Peter, survived. Kirk got there too late and found Sam dead. Sam's wife died in sick bay aboard the Enterprise.
Don't you mean comes to Enterprise, not starfleet? Kirk is about to become xo of Farragut, so he's already in starfleet which is the name of the organization, just as the British navy would be the Royal Navy.
not unusual for an actor to play a character younger than them. hell, it's pretty much common for twentysomethings to play teenagers. as it is, it's canon that Kirk was in his early 30s when he made captain in the Prime Universe
It’s a waste of an episode to just try get as many references to Kirk and other shows in - we get it - he’s supposed to be James T Kirk - we want a proper story about space!
Captain as position, not Captain as service rank. The two are different, even in Original Series. For example, we see Spock wearing full Commander stripes when he serves on the Enterprise Bridge, and yet both times his service record was read off in court, it said his service rank was Lieutenant Commander. Also, Deep Space Nine further confirms that no matter what one's actual rank was, you still call them "Captain" when they are in command. In this case, referring to Jadzia Dax when she was Lieutenant Commander. Even Ensign Nog would be called "Captain" if he had to take command. But as Chief O'Brien so eloquently put it, by the time Nog took command, there would be no one left to call him anything :P
@k1productions87 but on DS9..they call him commander sisko , even though he runs the station, until he's promoted to captain.. I was a huge collector of the books of each series as well as rabid fans of the show... and I thought for sure he jumped rank.. went from an Lt to captain.. and I don't mean position.
Not a big fan of this Sam Kirk. Normally a sibling rivalry arises because the siblings are more alike, yet Sam and Jim have very different personalities.
Jesus, they couldn’t find a smaller, thinner soyboy playing Kirk, huh? Meanwhile fanboys getting a stiffy because they found a little easteregg again. I’m so over with this crap
I’m disappointed in ST:SNW as it promised to go back to the beginning, to be what Star Trek was all about. What happened? Where is the bold Science Fiction? Where are the moral tales about humanity? Where is the moral and political/social comment? The Orville has grasped this perfectly! Why do we have the intro ‘Previously on…’ when it was supposed to be episodic? One of my biggest gripes of the whole franchise is why has the federation adopted the Enterprise’s uniform badge, when in fact each ship had a different insignia on their respective uniforms? An obvious blunder that now has a made up answer!
The he'll entitlement high are you on, you've missed the point of this show, and if you're a long time watcher, you'd know it has NOTHING to do with that, why do you think DS9 was more popular than you think, again speak for yourself.
Cause it's not real Star Trek. TOS Sam was never in Starfleet. He never served on the Enterprise, at least. What else? No characters from TOS/TNG/DS9 or Voyager used colloquial language (Example: EVERYTHING Ortegas says). Oh, the Gorn are NOT xenomorphs! I could go on. Why respect canon when it's much easier to overwrite it? Gene would be rolling in his grave. As would Nimoy.
I love that this references Kirk's time on the Farragut. Many people who started watching Star Trek with the Abrams-verse movies didn't realize that initially Kirk had a long career before getting the Enterprise, instead of getting her straight out of the Academy.
This included his inital term as a junior officer on the same USS Farragut culminating with being tactical officer, second officer on the USS Republic, Second Officer on the USS THresher, Chief Engineer on USS Aeolus, Detachment commander on Federation colony Shad VII during amid reports of possible Klingon incursions, and a previous First Officer stint on the USS Eagle.
memory beta has a good compilation on kirk and everything he did before TOS.
Starfleet Academy student officer 2250-2251 cadet
USS Republic 2251 ensign (provisional)
Starfleet Academy student instructor 2252-2254 lieutenant
USS Farragut junior officer 2254-2257
USS Excalibur 2250s
USS Stalwart
USS Constitution second officer 2257-2258
USS Tresher 2258
USS Aeolus 2258-2259 lieutenant commander
USS Bonhomme Richard first officer 2259
USS Alexander
Shad advisor 2259-2260
USS El Dorado first officer 2260
USS Eagle 2260-2261
USS Mizuki 2261
USS Aloia commanding officer 2261-2262 commander
USS Oxford 2261-2262
USS Lydia Sutherland 2262-2263
USS Saladin 2263-2264 captain
USS Enterprise 2264-2270
Mobita tactical operative 2267
Starfleet Operations chief of operations 2270 rear admiral lower half
2270-2273 rear admiral
USS Enterprise commanding officer 2273-2278 rear admiral
(temporary captain grade reduction)
Starfleet Academy Commandant 2278-2285 rear admiral
USS Enterprise commanding officer 2285
USS Enterprise-A 2286-2293 captain
How much of this will actually be canon though remains to be seen. As standing, all that’s known is that he served on the Farragut and the Republic. Your point is definitely understood though about actual depth to his career. I do hope in the next seasons to come we get even more backstory. There’s still gaps and it’d be nice to hear about more.
Exactly. I actually thought it was a huge mistake of the films to jump straight into the whole - way too young! - crew on The Enterprise. We saw Kirk having to take command in the first film. Fine. But it would have been more realistic to have him on the Farragut in Into Darkness, and over the course of that film and the next film, he puts the band back together. Plus Chekov, who shouldn't have shown up until the 3rd film. The producers had no patience, and no faith in the audience, so we got films that were derivative and shallow, instead of actually fulfilling the goal of prequel: show us stuff about the characters we love we haven't seen before! (Yes, 2009 did this a little with the Starfleet Academy sequence which was , like, 10 minutes of the film.)
well not that long since he is the youngest captain in starfleet :D busy though.
Still, Kirk seems to give the impression that the Farragut and its class are less shiny and fancy. I have a feeling this class of ship like the Miranda is the workhorse of the Federation
Only took 57 years but we finally got to see the Kirk brothers together.
Easter Egg: The Scotch that the Kirk Brothers drink is the same brand that Scotty uses to get a Kelvan drunk in TOS episode; Any Other Name.
It's.... green
Sibling rivalry never fully goes away. Sam may not be on the fast track of his Starfleet career, but he does have a family of his own. Sadly, in TOS, Sam and one of his sons are killed, which does hurt James Kirk.
Actually, Peter survive the parasite encounter and was left in the care of either his grandmother or one of his older brothers.
why does everything look so goofy? From the hair styles to moustaches??
@@natekarpowicz7564 In the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of", it's mentioned that George and his wife had two sons. I'd be willing to wager one of the boys was also killed, along with his parents, in "Operation: Annihilate", with Peter being the only survivor.
@@purefoldnz3070 It's New Trek -- everything looks goofy. George's moustache harks back to the TOS episode "Operation:Annihilate". The VERY brief glimpse we get of the deceased George Kirk (a made-overed William Shatner) shows he had a moustache.
@@robboyte1101 even Shat's glue on moustache looks 100 times better.
I love that George Kirk and the USS Kelvin are being referenced!
Thankfully this is the original Star Trek universe, so it didn't have n encounter with a giant Borg-tech enhanced, time-traveling Romulan vessel.
@@danielhaire6677 Which is why they get to talk about him in the present-tense rather than the past-tense
@@danielhaire6677 The Narada was Borg tech advanced?
It's ironic that Sam, as the older brother and their father's namesake, was probably the one James felt he had to compete with to win his father's approval. Which likely motivated the ambition and success that his brother now resents.
I kind of had this conflict with my younger sister. My parents are very driven and successful. Both opened their own business and made money off of them. My sister entered the medical field and very driven like them.... has her own huge house. I on the other hand am laid back easy going and happy working a 9to5 job and going to my small house out in the woods. I'm the black sheep of the family lol
@@uncletaylorify you don’t have to chase after something you dislike just to please somebody else. It’s your life, live it the way you see fit
Really loved the sibling rivalry between these two and the way they played off each other authentically. I really hope they give these two an episode in season three. And if they somehow snuck in a Hemsworrb cameo in the series finale when Kirk gets command the internet would break
"the internet would break" I doubt it would even BLINK.
@@Scipio488 Chris Hemsworth with an unannounced cameo on any TV show would be a big deal, much less kind of reprising his first notable role.
@@ZJBorg Maybe get one of the cheaper Hemsworth brothers to play George Kirk Senior as a wink and a nod.
It's a damn shame Sam going to die in TOS, because he's turning out to be an excellent character, he's basically a nerdy version of Kirk but still awesome, the relationship between he and his brother is touching yet tragic in hindsight considering what happened to him. I give the props to the people behind the scenes props for making a minor and largely obscure character greater exposure and developing him into something more.
I suddenly want a heavily made-up Chris Hemsworth to make a guest appearance.
Yep
Actually I'd love Bill Shatner to come in as he played Jim & Sam in TOS
We know so little about George Kirk Sr. (Besides his death in the Kelvin Timeline and a few references from time to time).
I’d be interested if we got a prequel film that goes over Kirk’s life on the Kelvin before James and Sam (that is if Hemsworth is up to come back to Trek after over a decade on Marvel).
It's hard thing to do but he's got to learn to be happy with his life and not care that his dad's not happy with where his career is.
Man was measuring for curtains on his first beam in.
What no, 'your chief security called me up to ask some odd questions a couple of weeks ago'?
Or just a what's the story with your head of security...and Sam saying can't you contain that libido of yours like EVER?!]]
Also, when the camera kept panning out of 10-4 or the mess hall or whatever...I expected to see La'an hesitantly observing Jim and Spock and Uhura.
James : hell of a ship
Enterprise : hell of a captain
I missed you so much Paul 💓
I love the ending of this episode.
...This is surprisingly much like my relationship with my younger brother at times.
I know that it will never happen, but my dream story on SNW would be a throwback. Jim Kirk, a Lieutenant on the Farragut, when it’s attacked by the cloud creature from Tycho IV. Jim is forced to take command when the Captain (Garrovick) and nearly 2/3 of the crew are killed. It’s based on the original series episode called “Obsession”.
Love this Kirk
Love when J.k. says " the old Man " 😂😂😂😂😂
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When you have conflicts with your sibling, it's never really about the announced subject. That's just the catalyst to stir up the memory of every fight, every slight, every resentment over a whole lifetime
I like this Kirk better than the Kelvin movies.
I don't dislike Pine's Kirk, but yeah... this one is a Kirk I didn't know I need and l absolutely love it.
Nothing can ever beat Karl Urban as McCoy though, except DeForest Kelley himself
I'll say the actor could do with some real meat to get that broad shoulder thing that both Pine and shatner have. Slavs and Ashkenazis just can't be broad shouldered without some animal protien in their diet. Only way to become a Chad like Shatner is.@@TrevorJNagy
0:55 *Wow,* "what" would have been a better response. Seemed like such a nice meeting in the transporter room, to turn into this brother rivalry? It really doesn't make any sense. As Sam went into a very *DEEP* science training as JT went the path of Starfleet Command. It makes no sense that their would be any *Brotherly* rivalry. But again it doesn't really matter, it's a great show! All of them are, but this one is really a great storyline. I hope they run it for as long as possible. Could be 1,2,3, years before Pike's accident but that could be 10/15 years of Shows! Could only hope, *MORE Sci-fi!*
Honestly, I just saw it as their way of taking the piss out of each other as siblings tend to do.
This Kirk’s waggling eyebrows are giving serious Jim Carrey vibes.
sam is just jealous of jiim but at the same time... we saw this with picard in tapestry dream if you're in the sciences ...you're basically capped at how far you can go unless you're like the best in that particular field which i assume sam is not.
as for james being XO of hte farragut.... shouldn't he be at least a lt. commander to commander by now?
he mentions in the clip( 1:00 ) that it's not official yet, since he still needs to train his replacement(as tactical officer IIRC), which will take a few months. once said training is complete and he's *officially* made XO, he'll likely get a Lieutenant Commander stripe
The actor playing James Kirk seems a bit older based on cannon... from what I understand, Kirk became a lieutenant on the Farragut at age 21 and first office by 26... Paul Wesley is 41.. and doesn't look the part of a young, ambitions Kirk, who became captain of the Enterprise by age 32
Wait are Kirk and Uhura contemporaries? I always thought Uhura was much younger and they made them age mates in the 2009 movie for a romance
Just think after this show is over they may keep Kirk going with a new show o.o
kirk is about to be a first officer so he one rank away from captain.
@@lynnfuson6285 From what i saw on here to late they killed him O_O unless they just made it look like hes dead if they did kill Kirk on the show they just created the worst kind of paradox in Star Trek
Jim isn't actually wrong. Sam should be living for his own happiness, and not their father's. Whether Jim wants his father's approval or not, he clearly enjoys doing what he does.
the more handsome... give me the yellow shirt krik XD
Yep, Jimbo boi... you will wreck that hell of a ship in 25 years to save your Vulcan boyfriend.
lol
He was on vampire daries he was sefen 😮
I'm sorry, I understand what they are aiming for here and, yes, fraternal tension can certainly be a lifelong phenomenon but... this is a conversation between 20 year old not between people who are obviously 40.
The characters are meant to be in their 20s I think, it's a bit like Grease in that respect lol
Nope. It persists into your 40's. I unfortunately know this all to well.
They’re in their younger years still, and you’d be surprised how immature people can be when it involves siblings and careers, especially after 40s.
Why does the Enterprise have a bar now and why does it take up so much space
There's a pool and a basketball court why the hell wouldn't there be a bar?
@tylerstears4445 in tos they just had a gym, a rec room, and a bowling alley
@@thorninthewires2038 thus furthering why it probably had a bar as well.
Hello, brother.
Remind you of another show?
Don't curse Trek. We don't want that.
@@stelenaaesthetic2009🥺🙂
Paul has had great chemistry and dynamic with all the brother relationships he's had... I think this is the 4th one I can think of 👍
Seems like none of the brothers feel good enough for daddy
Ive been watching Star Trek for a while now. I never knew kirk had a brother. I didn't remember him getting mentioned in any of the TOS films. I wonder if they will mention SPocks brother at all. Or do we just pretend Star Trek 5 never happened?
He appears in the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" (spoiler alert - He's dead when we see him. It's just William Shatner laid on the ground with a glued on mustache)
Also, I think Sybok already made an appearance in this show. I think it was in the first season?
yeah, Sam is in TOS as a dead body, and in the Kelvin movies I belive there was a deleted scene, or a scene they planed to shoot but never did, with him.
As for Sybok, he was teased in the first season of SNW and I think we saw like a shot of his back.
You have to watch the TOS episode, Operation: Annihilate. Sam and his wife were killed during a parasite attack at a research outpost. Their son, Peter, survived.
Kirk got there too late and found Sam dead. Sam's wife died in sick bay aboard the Enterprise.
@@ChateauLonLon The episode is Operation: Annihilate.
Don't you mean comes to Enterprise, not starfleet? Kirk is about to become xo of Farragut, so he's already in starfleet which is the name of the organization, just as the British navy would be the Royal Navy.
Jim looks to be in his early 40s. A bit long in the tooth to be youngest first officer.
not unusual for an actor to play a character younger than them. hell, it's pretty much common for twentysomethings to play teenagers. as it is, it's canon that Kirk was in his early 30s when he made captain in the Prime Universe
It’s a waste of an episode to just try get as many references to Kirk and other shows in - we get it - he’s supposed to be James T Kirk - we want a proper story about space!
Kid, speak for yourself, or make your own show no one will watch
All changed.. I thought in the os canon he skipped from LT to captain.. was never a 1st.
Captain as position, not Captain as service rank. The two are different, even in Original Series.
For example, we see Spock wearing full Commander stripes when he serves on the Enterprise Bridge, and yet both times his service record was read off in court, it said his service rank was Lieutenant Commander.
Also, Deep Space Nine further confirms that no matter what one's actual rank was, you still call them "Captain" when they are in command. In this case, referring to Jadzia Dax when she was Lieutenant Commander. Even Ensign Nog would be called "Captain" if he had to take command. But as Chief O'Brien so eloquently put it, by the time Nog took command, there would be no one left to call him anything :P
@k1productions87 but on DS9..they call him commander sisko , even though he runs the station, until he's promoted to captain.. I was a huge collector of the books of each series as well as rabid fans of the show... and I thought for sure he jumped rank.. went from an Lt to captain.. and I don't mean position.
Am I the only one who thinks Sam Kirk is more of a James Kirk. While James Kirk looks like Jim Carrey?
Who is this Sebastian Stan lookalike?
Lotta clowns in chat, stick to drinking that hate aid
whats with the stash? lmao
In the TOS episode "Operation:Annihilate!" they found Sam's dead body and he was played by Shatner wearing a mustache.
it's an easter egg for the TOS series crowd...
Shatner with a stash, played this role dead.
So they are both putting in the work to have successful careers. Sam chose differently and is jealous of Jim. Am i summing this up right?
He's jealous because their father is only proud of James
Not a big fan of this Sam Kirk. Normally a sibling rivalry arises because the siblings are more alike, yet Sam and Jim have very different personalities.
It's kinda cool that they added Sam as a character... Just like Pike he has a tragic fate 😢
Didn't their father supposedly die in the Kelvin? They're talking about him as thought he were still alive.
That George Kirk was from an alternate timeline. Basically the last three Trek films were from that timeline.
So here, George is alive.
That's only in the reboot films. Original timeline Kirks dad was just fine
Kirk didn't have a brother??????
Yes he did. We see his death in the original series
So, Sam Kirk is supposed to be the idiot comic relief?
Damn all I see is Jim Carrey
I don't get it lol I'm sorry. Paul Wesley looks nothing like Jim Carrey - never has.
@@user-jc7fo5gf3s I can’t unsee it in some mannerism & facial expressions.
@@dodywidodo9433 Interesting.
WTF is this
It's shit.
This isn't Star Trek. This is High school junk. Teenagers love competition. Adults don't worry about making dad proud.
despise this, awful "Kirk", like Jim Carey
Nothing makes any sense in this show
this more looks like a bad Star Trek parody.
Nah that honour goes to the garbage known as the Orville
Jesus, they couldn’t find a smaller, thinner soyboy playing Kirk, huh? Meanwhile fanboys getting a stiffy because they found a little easteregg again. I’m so over with this crap
Grow up
I’m disappointed in ST:SNW as it promised to go back to the beginning, to be what Star Trek was all about. What happened? Where is the bold Science Fiction? Where are the moral tales about humanity? Where is the moral and political/social comment? The Orville has grasped this perfectly! Why do we have the intro ‘Previously on…’ when it was supposed to be episodic? One of my biggest gripes of the whole franchise is why has the federation adopted the Enterprise’s uniform badge, when in fact each ship had a different insignia on their respective uniforms? An obvious blunder that now has a made up answer!
…and another thing - we’re not the Gorn an unknown race in Kirk’s time aboard Enterprise?
This ain't the past.. and if i recalled the producers, didn't promise anything of what you said, so go back to your orville, Mr. Disappointed
The he'll entitlement high are you on, you've missed the point of this show, and if you're a long time watcher, you'd know it has NOTHING to do with that, why do you think DS9 was more popular than you think, again speak for yourself.
Cause it's not real Star Trek. TOS Sam was never in Starfleet. He never served on the Enterprise, at least. What else? No characters from TOS/TNG/DS9 or Voyager used colloquial language (Example: EVERYTHING Ortegas says). Oh, the Gorn are NOT xenomorphs! I could go on.
Why respect canon when it's much easier to overwrite it?
Gene would be rolling in his grave. As would Nimoy.
@@peterlunaGene Roddenberry would constantly deem things non-canon. Hell, after TNG started, he said he considered TOS non-canon.