This was a great video, thank you! I just started using Topaz Photo AI 3.2 a few days ago and I must say I'm impressed. I've just begun practicing the export option from DXO 8 Elite to Topaz, choosing the appropriate suggested Camera files (have a Canon T7 Rebel) and have been pretty successful. Quite the difference between the two programs, but am finding out how nice it is to have both! Still lots to learn and am glad I found your channel!
Thank you! I take a lot of pictures of birds and squirrels and I'm finding the Natural looks so much better. Fur/feathers don't look so crunchy! Go Topaz! Go Dave!
Tony - great bonus video. I wanted alert you and your followers to a problem I have been having using Topaz Photo AI via Lightroom ever since version 3.0 came out and see if others have experienced the same thing.. Specifically, the issue is that the file that Photo AI returns to LR may be missing the EXIF data that was contained in the original RAW file. After hours (days!) of experimentation I think I have identified the cause my problem. My normal workflow has been to have LR simultaneously rename my RAW file and convert it to DNG upon import. I then send that file (which contains the EXIF data of the original RAW file) to Topaz Photo AI as you do, but the file that is returned to LR is missing the EXIF data. However, if I do not have LR rename the file on input - but only have it convert the RAW file to a DNG file (the DNG file still retains the EXIF data) - then rename the DNG file inside of LR (that is after it is imported into LR) - and then send the renamed DNG file to Photo AI, the file Photo AI returns does contain the EXIF data that was in both the original RAW and DNG file. I have had some others confirm that this has been their experience as well. I have been working with the Topaz and Adobe folks on this issue but so far it has not been resolved.
Hi Dave! since you generally use a linear profile as a starting point for editing, doesn’t this make it difficult? Linear profiles give a flatter duller image than say camera faithfu so how would you work around that?
I am a Nikon guy. I TRIED THE REFOCUS with an image I stacked, which was a dng file after stacking and the refocus image came back with the colors matching very good in the area that was sharp BUT the out of focus background was much brighter and extremely saturated.
Thanks Keith and yes you can use Linear Profiles. Start with a Camera Matching Profile and then when your result comes back to Lightroom switch to the Linear Profile.
Thanks Dave. When exporting from LR. Can you use a Linear profile as we use in your TK9 videos or do you apply after reimporting back in LR. Would a flat profile be better?
Tony, yes you can. Send the image to Photo Ai with any matching Camera Profile and when it comes back change it to a linear profile and you should be good to go.
The new sharpening model Lens Blur V2 produces a lot of artefacts. The results of other new model "Natural" aren't much better. Both models are unusable for me. The nest thing is that there's a visible color shift in the files that are created with PAI 3.2. The .tif files are in a warmer color temparature as the original. This result I can't use for further processing. At the moment I go back ti Sharpener AI 4.1. This works fine.
Dave - Prior to seeing this (excellent as always) I had downloaded the updated version and was playing with it on some landscape images that were slightly soft . I found the difference between Standard, Lensblur 2 and Refocus were dramatically different. The photos I was working with were Antarctica icebergs and on some images the differences between the AI algorithms literally changed what the surface of the iceberg looked like. It’s really worth noting that rather than accepting what Topaz first produces, and experimenting among the different models and the strengths’ settings to see what works best is really important. One question for you. When you run sharpening in Topaz AI, what do you do with the sharpening settings in LR? Do you totally disable them to avoid over sharpening?
It's not been a good path for me, with Photo AI, I much prefered the Denoise program, I am still using it, as it leaves a much natural finished photo. Best from Uruguay Dave !
I would love to see how the denoise algorithm works on starry skies because Adobe and the old DxO and topaz do all have problems with it causing artifacts.
Hi Dave. I don't know if you can help me with this. When I export from LR to Topaz Phot Ai, the color from one and the other varies a lot. Where could be the issue? Thanks so much
If you are using a Canon Camera make sure you have the same Camera Matching profile on the original CR file as you do on the DNG file that was returned from Photo Ai. If both Camera Matching profiles are not the same this could be the reason. You will need to change one of them to match the other. I have noticed that sometimes there is a mismatch for some reason.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Thanks Dave. No, I use a Sony Camera and the difference in color is so visible from Lr to Topaz once exported that annoys me. I know it can't be 100% exact but, not that difference. Could be any setting in Topaz app or the only solution is wait for the Sony profiles to be in Topaz? Regards
Help, Topaz 3.2 does not send images back to LR is DNG files only as Tiff, even when I only apply sharpening. In preferences I have selected send back and Adobe DNG files. What going on....
I am only in to 2:15 but I see the sharpening is losing the color of the fur and making it whiter. This is not sharpening... this will not do... sorry. Video over.
I agree with your first sentence. But what are possible better options? I haven't found an alternative yet, except maybe upscayl as an upscaling alternative.
I think it's creepy that an AI app would getting so intimate with the way I do things. I want my photos to be the product of my own skill, judgement and aesthetics. I don't mind the minimal approach I've seen so far, but this is too much.
it was a shame that Adobe went to subscription model and now Topaz just charges by the yearly upgrade plan.. this upgrade from Topaz is $200 and you get updates for a year.... so instead of paying Topaz each month like you would with Adobe you get to pay Topaz by the year... not a cool way to treat your customers that have been with Topaz for years... time to say NO WAY JOSE and go elsewhere...
So it’s a $200 a year subscription?! For a program that is just for NR, Sharpening and Upscaling. That’s costly. And what did you pay for Topaz DeNoise AI and Sharpen AI, for programs that are now dead and abandoned.
@@graham_T well I logged back on to see if I had read it wrong and yes I was wrong... when and if I would upgrade this very second it would add all of the licence and instead of the $200 its actually $327 ( Gigapixel, Video. Photo) thanks for pointing out the price structure... its even worse than I originally wrote... thats not cool at all... sorry to bust anyones bubble...
Great job! I've learned so much from you. Please keep those videos for topaz AI coming. Thank you very much
Yay, a bonus day by Dave! Thanks!
again an excellent video, thanks Dave!
This was a great video, thank you! I just started using Topaz Photo AI 3.2 a few days ago and I must say I'm impressed. I've just begun practicing the export option from DXO 8 Elite to Topaz, choosing the appropriate suggested Camera files (have a Canon T7 Rebel) and have been pretty successful. Quite the difference between the two programs, but am finding out how nice it is to have both! Still lots to learn and am glad I found your channel!
Another very useful tutorial. Thanks Dave!
Great review of Topaz Photo AI update. Cheers from Nova Scotia...
thanks for showing the updates.
Thank you! I take a lot of pictures of birds and squirrels and I'm finding the Natural looks so much better. Fur/feathers don't look so crunchy! Go Topaz! Go Dave!
Love your videos. Always come away with a new skill. Thank you !
Thanks for this so useful tutorial, Dave. One does always learn something that passed unnoticed!
Tony - great bonus video. I wanted alert you and your followers to a problem I have been having using Topaz Photo AI via Lightroom ever since version 3.0 came out and see if others have experienced the same thing.. Specifically, the issue is that the file that Photo AI returns to LR may be missing the EXIF data that was contained in the original RAW file. After hours (days!) of experimentation I think I have identified the cause my problem. My normal workflow has been to have LR simultaneously rename my RAW file and convert it to DNG upon import. I then send that file (which contains the EXIF data of the original RAW file) to Topaz Photo AI as you do, but the file that is returned to LR is missing the EXIF data. However, if I do not have LR rename the file on input - but only have it convert the RAW file to a DNG file (the DNG file still retains the EXIF data) - then rename the DNG file inside of LR (that is after it is imported into LR) - and then send the renamed DNG file to Photo AI, the file Photo AI returns does contain the EXIF data that was in both the original RAW and DNG file. I have had some others confirm that this has been their experience as well. I have been working with the Topaz and Adobe folks on this issue but so far it has not been resolved.
Thanks Dave-as usual well explained, much appreciated.
Hi Dave! since you generally use a linear profile as a starting point for editing, doesn’t this make it difficult? Linear profiles give a flatter duller image than say camera faithfu so how would you work around that?
You can still use a linear profile. Start with any camera matching profile and when the image comes back to LR just change to a Linear Profile.
Thanks Dave! Your tutorials are absolutely brilliant!
Thank you for making this wonderful video ❤🎉❤
Thanks!
Thank you for the generous Super Thanks!
I am a Nikon guy. I TRIED THE REFOCUS with an image I stacked, which was a dng file after stacking and the refocus image came back with the colors matching very good in the area that was sharp BUT the out of focus background was much brighter and extremely saturated.
thank you Dave 👍
Very nice tutorial!😊
Excellent video Dave. can you use Linea Profiles with this new update ?
Thanks Keith and yes you can use Linear Profiles. Start with a Camera Matching Profile and then when your result comes back to Lightroom switch to the Linear Profile.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly okay thank you
Thanks Dave. When exporting from LR. Can you use a Linear profile as we use in your TK9 videos or do you apply after reimporting back in LR. Would a flat profile be better?
Tony, yes you can. Send the image to Photo Ai with any matching Camera Profile and when it comes back change it to a linear profile and you should be good to go.
The new sharpening model Lens Blur V2 produces a lot of artefacts. The results of other new model "Natural" aren't much better. Both models are unusable for me. The nest thing is that there's a visible color shift in the files that are created with PAI 3.2. The .tif files are in a warmer color temparature as the original. This result I can't use for further processing. At the moment I go back ti Sharpener AI 4.1. This works fine.
Comon Topaz, we all want a Comparison view.
Yes, I am sure its on their wish list.
Thanks a lot. Very interesting!
Before and after - I don't see any big differences. I'm still using the old version before the first paid update and it will stay that way for me.
The first image wasn't blurred?
Dave - Prior to seeing this (excellent as always) I had downloaded the updated version and was playing with it on some landscape images that were slightly soft . I found the difference between Standard, Lensblur 2 and Refocus were dramatically different. The photos I was working with were Antarctica icebergs and on some images the differences between the AI algorithms literally changed what the surface of the iceberg looked like. It’s really worth noting that rather than accepting what Topaz first produces, and experimenting among the different models and the strengths’ settings to see what works best is really important. One question for you. When you run sharpening in Topaz AI, what do you do with the sharpening settings in LR? Do you totally disable them to avoid over sharpening?
Dave great tip and I agree with you. I do disable Lightroom's sharpening on the returned Photo Ai image so it's not over sharpened.
It's not been a good path for me, with Photo AI, I much prefered the Denoise program, I am still using it, as it leaves a much natural finished photo. Best from Uruguay Dave !
Originally, I used to love that DeNoise app and such, but nowadays I think the Photo AI app it's not that great yet. I'm going to stick with DXO.
Thanks Dave 👍
Great. Thank you!
I would love to see how the denoise algorithm works on starry skies because Adobe and the old DxO and topaz do all have problems with it causing artifacts.
Does your discount work on annual renewals?
My Affiliate link does Donald and it helps my channel when you use it. Topaz no longer use promo codes.
Do you still use the M 50 Mark II
Canon 5D Mark II
Could you show us how it works with portraits ? Topaz Sharpen AI was so good for portraits, but with photo AI it's very bad 🤔🤔
I find most often whatever option you pick this software does little to make photos better. I have many times find it makes things worse.
How do you solve it when there's no sound?
Hi Dave. I don't know if you can help me with this. When I export from LR to Topaz Phot Ai, the color from one and the other varies a lot. Where could be the issue?
Thanks so much
If you are using a Canon Camera make sure you have the same Camera Matching profile on the original CR file as you do on the DNG file that was returned from Photo Ai. If both Camera Matching profiles are not the same this could be the reason. You will need to change one of them to match the other. I have noticed that sometimes there is a mismatch for some reason.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Thanks Dave. No, I use a Sony Camera and the difference in color is so visible from Lr to Topaz once exported that annoys me. I know it can't be 100% exact but, not that difference. Could be any setting in Topaz app or the only solution is wait for the Sony profiles to be in Topaz?
Regards
Help, Topaz 3.2 does not send images back to LR is DNG files only as Tiff, even when I only apply sharpening. In preferences I have selected send back and Adobe DNG files. What going on....
I solved the problem...depends on how you transfer from LR to Topaz Ai, need to select from Plug-in Extras, not from Photo drop down menu....
I am only in to 2:15 but I see the sharpening is losing the color of the fur and making it whiter. This is not sharpening... this will not do... sorry. Video over.
Canon R5 II is still not supported... i hope we will get soon ;-)
Watching this on my phone so it's hard to see the effects you mention.
money grubber software. better options out there.
I agree with your first sentence. But what are possible better options? I haven't found an alternative yet, except maybe upscayl as an upscaling alternative.
You don't focus on one feature then move to another one, but go around and around. This video could be made shorter.
Yes, expectations was not set up front properly
Received $199 renewal notice. Awful.
I can hardly see any difference. I’ve got 3.3 and I am disappointed in the results I’m getting
I think it's creepy that an AI app would getting so intimate with the way I do things. I want my photos to be the product of my own skill, judgement and aesthetics. I don't mind the minimal approach I've seen so far, but this is too much.
Photo AI=enhance
Lrc=edit
PS=transform
Hi, Fake vid...doing a review based on rabbit very sharpen and clean image is not fair....sad....
I am studiously instructing UA-cam to take Topaz out of my feed. Generative AI is not photography. Get back to work, people.
it was a shame that Adobe went to subscription model and now Topaz just charges by the yearly upgrade plan.. this upgrade from Topaz is $200 and you get updates for a year.... so instead of paying Topaz each month like you would with Adobe you get to pay Topaz by the year... not a cool way to treat your customers that have been with Topaz for years... time to say NO WAY JOSE and go elsewhere...
So it’s a $200 a year subscription?! For a program that is just for NR, Sharpening and Upscaling. That’s costly. And what did you pay for Topaz DeNoise AI and Sharpen AI, for programs that are now dead and abandoned.
No it is not at 200 year subscription!!! They charge 99 to renew your licence and that covers you for all your topaz products you own .
@@graham_T well I logged back on to see if I had read it wrong and yes I was wrong... when and if I would upgrade this very second it would add all of the licence and instead of the $200 its actually $327 ( Gigapixel, Video. Photo) thanks for pointing out the price structure... its even worse than I originally wrote... thats not cool at all... sorry to bust anyones bubble...
Thanks!
Marc thanks for the Super Thanks!