Solving a golden equation

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  • Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
  • In this video , I solved an equation which turned out to have a golden solution

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  • @ernestdecsi5913
    @ernestdecsi5913 3 місяці тому +8

    A very nice solution. I, a 70-year-old pensioner, send you my greetings from Slovakia. When I see such a beautiful solution, all my sadness disappears.

    • @dougaugustine4075
      @dougaugustine4075 11 днів тому

      I'm 70 too (but will be 71 later this month). I live in Japan.

  • @CharlesShorts
    @CharlesShorts 3 місяці тому +21

    Hi prime newtons, letting you know that you uploaded the same video twice!

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  3 місяці тому +10

      Thanks. I deleted one. UA-cam probably had a glitch yesterday.

  • @qetuoa13579gjlxvn
    @qetuoa13579gjlxvn 3 місяці тому +9

    This channel better then my math teacher.

  • @sunil.shegaonkar1
    @sunil.shegaonkar1 3 місяці тому +2

    Both Solutions are valid.
    Because x2 = -0.618 aaprx and 1/X2 = -1.618 apprx.
    Difference between x2 and 1/x2 = 1 (Exactly). That reminds me what facilitated substitution of the long-term by U at 8:36.
    -1/x2 appears in both the terms, which is positive. That will make square root positive.

  • @surendrakverma555
    @surendrakverma555 3 місяці тому +3

    Excellent explanation Sir. Thanks 🙏

  • @isaacbunsen5833
    @isaacbunsen5833 2 місяці тому +2

    The negative version doesn't actually give you imaginary sqaure roots! The first one is the square root of 1 and the other one gives you the square root of phi sqaured!

  • @HollywoodF1
    @HollywoodF1 3 місяці тому

    Good problem- good suggestions. Thank you!

  • @xyz9250
    @xyz9250 Місяць тому

    I did it without substitution, multiply both side by [(x-1/x)^1/2 - (1-1/x)^1/2] and eventually get (x-1/x)^1/2 - (1-1/x)^1/2 = 1 -1/x , and the two equations to get rid of the second sqrt, then square both sides, simplify and get (x - 1/x -1)^2 = 0.

  • @dirklutz2818
    @dirklutz2818 19 днів тому

    Both parts of the equation do exist in the range [-1,0[ and [1, inf[. So x could be negative! But (1-sqrt5)/2 is too negative.

  • @danielbergman1984
    @danielbergman1984 3 місяці тому

    Nice! 👏

  • @Dr.keitan
    @Dr.keitan 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for your lecture.
    If the solution provides us the golden ratio, can we directly derive the first equation from a certain relation in a geometric object related with the golden ratio??
    I found the Euclidean way for x^2 - x + 1 = 0 by the similarity in a rectangular.
    I guess there is the source of the first equation... Please teach that if you know.

  • @lukaskamin755
    @lukaskamin755 3 місяці тому

    interesting that the LHS is also defined for -1

  • @user-sw7rw3px6n
    @user-sw7rw3px6n 3 місяці тому

    sir can you please do the cauchy sequence prove?

  • @rimantasri4578
    @rimantasri4578 3 місяці тому

    Life is beautiful!

  • @dirklutz2818
    @dirklutz2818 19 днів тому

    Sqrt(5) without calculator! 5= 2.5 * 2. So the square root must be between 2.5 and 2.0.
    The average of the 2 numbers is 2.25. Now, 5 divided by 2.25 = 2.2222. The average now is 2.2361 and that is very close to the (rounded) value of 2.23607.

  • @appybane8481
    @appybane8481 3 місяці тому +1

    x2=(1-sqrt5)/2 don't work because (x-1/x)^1/2+(1-1/x)^1/2 is always positive (if it's real)

  • @9adam4
    @9adam4 2 місяці тому

    Should have factored out the x-1 term near the beginning.

  • @vestieee5098
    @vestieee5098 3 місяці тому

    Hello sir, is there any difference between writing the square root of some quantity as radical(x) versus as (x)^1/2? Does it affect the domain/range or something? I'm not too clear on this, sorry for the bother. Great video as always :)

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. Unless clearly stated, you can only get non-negative outputs from square-root (x). But x^½can give anything including imaginary outputs.

    • @vestieee5098
      @vestieee5098 3 місяці тому

      @@PrimeNewtons Ah, makes sense. Thank you so much for the explanation!

  • @SuperTommox
    @SuperTommox 3 місяці тому

    This was beautiful

  • @qwertyuiop2161
    @qwertyuiop2161 3 місяці тому

    what is the source of this problem?

  • @Charles-ef5vs
    @Charles-ef5vs 3 місяці тому +1

    where can I find problems in this level of difficulty?

  • @ibrahimmassy2753
    @ibrahimmassy2753 3 місяці тому

    Great video! I guess that solution (1-√5)/2 doesn´t work not by x-1/x be negative (because is positive) but is because x is expressed as sum of two square roots

  • @5Stars49
    @5Stars49 3 місяці тому +1

    Golden ratio 🎉

  • @vasanthalakshmi6734
    @vasanthalakshmi6734 3 місяці тому +1

    Need help sir why can't the opposite of golden ratio is a root.?

    • @rafaelsimoes2974
      @rafaelsimoes2974 3 місяці тому

      x cannot be negative, because x is the sum of two root squares, positive + positive = positive

    • @abidomar9568
      @abidomar9568 3 місяці тому

      Please look at the question "x belongs to real number "

    • @rafaelsimoes2974
      @rafaelsimoes2974 3 місяці тому

      @@abidomar9568 yes, but it's a mistake, it is impossible that x be negative, just look (x-1/x)^(1/2) must be positive, (1-1/x)^(1/2) also must be positive, this implies that x is positive because x = (x-1/x)^(1/2)+(1-1/x)^(1/2)
      x = (something positive) + (something positive), therefore x = (something positive)

    • @lilypad429
      @lilypad429 3 місяці тому

      ​@@abidomar9568should be "real POSITIVE number instead of just real

  • @neclis7777
    @neclis7777 3 місяці тому +1

    IR*....

  • @hba12
    @hba12 3 місяці тому

    it will be easier if you write x^2 -1 as (x+1)(x-1)

  • @anonakkor9503
    @anonakkor9503 3 місяці тому

    let’s gooo haha

  • @comdo777
    @comdo777 3 місяці тому +1

    asnwer=1x

  • @formarce
    @formarce 3 місяці тому

    I have a beaultifull solution for this equation using geometry

  • @flamewings3224
    @flamewings3224 3 місяці тому +1

    The negative version (x = 1/2(1-sqrt(5)) actually is the solution. Because we want that an expression under a square roots will be positive. So we aren’t want x > 0, we want 1 - 1/x >= 0 and x - 1/x >= 0.
    For the first one we have:
    1 - 1/x >= 0
    (x - 1)/x >= 0
    x in the interval (-inf; 0) U [1; +inf)
    For the second one we have:
    x - 1/x >= 0
    (x^2 - 1)/x >= 0
    (x-1)(x+1)/x >= 0
    and we have that x in the interval [-1; 0) U [1; +inf)
    and, fortunately (or not xd), the root x = 1/2(1 - sqrt(5)) ≈ -0.618 in the interval.

    • @m.h.6470
      @m.h.6470 3 місяці тому

      The negative version can't be a solution, as the result of any root is ALWAYS positive.
      Since the x on the right hand side of the original equation is equal to the sum of two roots, it HAS to be positive. It literally doesn't matter, what is inside the roots, x is positive.

    • @Taric25
      @Taric25 3 місяці тому +1

      Reduce[Sqrt[(-1 + x)/x] + Sqrt[-x^(-1) + x] == x, x, Reals] gives the positive answer.

    • @nothingbutmathproofs7150
      @nothingbutmathproofs7150 3 місяці тому

      I got the same results but did not take into account that the sum of two sqrts can't be negative

  • @kiro9291
    @kiro9291 3 місяці тому

    you might have uploaded the same video twice

  • @ScrewY0UguyS
    @ScrewY0UguyS 3 місяці тому

    Wait a second. x can be negative.
    Within following bounds:
    -1