I agree; Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome in the movie. She disagrees with him and only starts to fall in love when he starts acting nice to her. Not to mention she left the castle twice, only going back because it was the right thing to do.
As a recovering victim of Stockholm syndrome(CPTSD), I agree. Belle doesn't have Stockholm syndrome, she's found a true love in the understanding she doesn't have to conform to society, and has someone to journey through that with her.
belle is truly a strong woman that made her own decisions. and omg the ending of the video when you said "It is a tale as old as time depicting how two rejected people could accept the reasons others banish them and fall in love" beautifully summarized thank you
there are two cases of Stockholm Syndrome in the Disney line up but beauty and the beast is not one of them. They are Quasimodo in the hunchback of Notre Dam with Count Frollo and Rapunzel with Mother Gothel neither of which are portrayed in a positive light.
Wrong. Quasimodo and Rapunzel see the person controlling them as a parental figure who raised them, and they never considered themselves prisoners to begin with. In contrast Beast is a complete stranger to Belle, and SHE DOES consider herself a prisoner. Belle absolutely meets the criteria for Stockholm syndrome, Quasimodo and Rapunzel don't.
wrong. belle doesnt fit Stockholm Syndrome because Stockholm syndrome is more than likely a lie. The people just went along with what the robbers said so they wouldn't die. Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome. not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast.
"Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome." - How so? The only criteria is that someone develops an emotional attachment to someone holding them prisoner. "not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast." - She literally says, "If you hadn't frightened me I wouldn't have run away".
Thank you so much for this. People repeat the damn Stockholm Syndrome thing so often that when a psychology panel determined that the only Disney characters to show actual signs of Stockholm Syndrome were Quasimodo (Hunchback of NotreDame) and Rapunzel (Tangled) there were immediately comments insisting that Belle HAD to have it and "Rapunzel can't have it. She thought Gothel was her mother." Making it clear they had no idea what the syndrome actually entails.
yeah, Rapunsel is debatable simply because she doesn't know she's a prisoner. She just thinks she has a over protective mother. But definitely Belle doesn't have it. She has gratitude sure, so does the beast. But it wasn't stockholm syndrome.
I was truly just frustrated with the amount of negative ideas swirling around this movie and wanted to bring my perspective to why I think it's a great love story. I never thought of any of these negative themes until I was told them. Thanks for watching!
Goddamn thank you so much dude it really is ridiculous the lengths some people would go to portray this movie in a negative light. I mean... I like the movie. It's not like my super favorite of all time. But the argument that Stockholm Syndrome was involved just felt... insulting to me for the longest time. I think it's because I always recalled Belle as a strong character and accusing her of having Stockholm Syndrome is a slap in the face to that. She could've left Beast in the snow to die. Her own father urged her to go home and not take his place. She did an ENORMOUSLY HEROIC THING there. She TAMED THE BEAST. The beast didn't change her, she changed HIM. Belle is a much stronger character than these Stockholm Syndrome fanatics take her for. Accusing Belle of having it is unforgivably accusing her of having no will of her own, when she clearly exercised her will whenever and however she pleased.
The Stockholm Syndrome thing didn't even start as a Theory, it was a joke in the 90s that people who don't know anything about psychology took too seriously.
True, I always used it as a joke and I didn't realized until now that people really thought seriously about that. Yes she falls in love for her captor but all the rest is out of order. The message is clear: don't judge a book for its cover because is what's on the inside that counts (even that in the beginning you don't like so much, like Lord of the Ring ahah).
I mean, really?! People think that this movie is about Stockholm Syndrome? Yet, when they look at the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship....they think it's true love?! Hypocrisy, much?!
Belle sure as heck does NOT have Stockholm syndrome. That is a stupid argument for stupid people who want to push an agenda. I don’t even want to try to understand those people because to them Beauty and the Beast is not ok, yet there is such thing as a “best selling” novel called 50 Shades with a whole freaking underground fetish to go with it🤮 What exactly is the message of 50 Shades of Gray anyway? I don’t even want to know. I better hear the same argument in that story because Belle is 💯 times the woman that freaky perverted girl ever could be.
@@savannahhague7412 She doesn't have it either. She had fallen in love with the Joker when she was his psychiatrist and then willingly left with him. Harley is a victom of abuse. She loved him and it is a sad truth that people in abusive relationships often have a hard time to leave their partners.
If the film is trying to teach that appearances don't matter then why is the fact that Belle is smoking hot emphasised throughout, including in the title.
DeCipher It's emphasized that she's beautiful,not "smoking hot". And beauty doesn't just have to be about her appearance.It could also be referring to her good nature and kind heart and sweet attitude.
While it's understandable where the idea comes from, the movie being about Stockholm Syndrome is ultimately inaccurate. Stockholm Syndrome is when a captive feels positive emotions for their captor because they mistake a lack of abusive behavior for kindness, however while Belle agrees to stay with the Beast (a choice that was made by herself in the first place, not by her father or the Beast), she constantly stands up to the Beast and defies his threats and punishments when he treats her badly, therefore not allowing him any power over her beyond being able to keep her in the same general location. She doesn't show him any affection until he finally stops acting like a jerk (he doesn't display any abusive behavior after she saves his life) and starts consistently treating her with respect. And it is only after the Beast frees Belle, making them complete equals with no power imbalance at all in their relationship that she's able to finally fall in love with him. It's also clear that while the Beast had an outside motivation to make Belle like him and to change his behavior, the changes in his character are genuine as seen in his act of mercy in sparing Gaston's life in the climax of the film. Additionally, the idea that the story is about Stockholm Syndrome ignores the fact that the original fairy tale it was based off of was meant to be an allegory for arranged marriages and for the apprehension and fear a young bride would feel about starting a new life with a strange man she might not like at first.
You can see Stockholm Syndrome in Rapunzel and Mother Gothel. Rapunzel believes that mother Gothel loves her and uses her hair to stay with her as long as possible. While in reality Gothel only loves the hair. When Rapunzel isn’t allowed to leave the tower she thinks that Gothel is only trying to protect her. And when Gothel threatens to kill Flynn, this is when she finally sees her true motives.
I appreciate this explanation so much. The older I get, the more all these innocent lovely things I knew as a child become perverted. The older I get the more I realize it is important to consider these adulterated conclusions so we can explain them properly and discuss them as adults. I'm glad to see someone else in the world who has not lost faith in the purity of innocent and lovely things such as this.
That's what I really want my channel to be about: pouring through the magic of so many films. I think some dark theories are okay sometimes, but in this case I just felt so opposed to this idea. Thanks for watching!
@MoraytheJoyBoat isn't it odd that we only think of this things as adults? and as kids we were happy with happily ever after the end? i mean, what if its not meant to be analyzed so deeply? because the only time you start thinking, dissecting and analyzing is when you are an adult way pass the main target audience of fairytales and disney cartoons so maybe the message is actually simple and not something complex like stockholm or abuse or things like that because as kids the world is not like that, it is funny and wonderful and full of love and friendship and other corny stuff like that.
"Perverted" meaning twisted from the original intention, changed to something darker, etc. The application of Stockholm Syndrome to Beauty and the Beast changes the original meaning to something darker - it "perverts" the meaning.
YES. HELL YES TO THIS. When I was just a little kid and watched this movie nothing else in the world could've destroyed it for me. It's a tale as old as time about two rejected people finding each other in the strangest of ways falling in love. And now a bunch of people are saying ""Hurr durr Belle has Stockholm syndrome"" :/
Why is it that people judge fairytales so harshly? They were meant for entertainment, no one even thought about character development/love relations when they were created. I think Disney did a pretty good job at portraying a romance story that has good chemistry and progression.
I love Belle, she encourages women that reading books, having an imagination and being educated doesn't make you strange but it makes you different in the best way. They fall in love with each other because of their personalities. She also shows a lot of interest in him when she finds out he owns a library and when he protects her from the wolves. She falls in love with the person he is, not for any other reason. I love that you debunked this theory!! Xx
I think that the "theory" of Bell having Stockholm Syndrome is just ridiculous, and was created as just another case of people wanting to find controversy in a movie, story, show, etc when there never was any to begin with; basically just making things up via social media for attention. I love this movie and its one of my personal favorites among the Disney movies; I think that the moral of this story (the movie) is that you shouldn't judge a person solely on appearances or before you get the chance to know them as a person, etc, and I personally think that, that is a great moral message for kids.
I never once thought Belle had Stockholm Syndrome. I've had the Beauty and the Beast since I was a little kid, and even when I heard about the "theory", I knew it wasn't true. Belle is a misunderstood girl in a town that wants her to be just like them, something I've had to deal with as well. I wasn't into makeup and dresses when I was growing up, and I read so many books and made art because those were my only true friends at the time. After watching this movie a few weeks ago, I remembered how much I loved the movie and how much I could relate to Belle. Belle and Mulan are my favorite princesses, and I cannot wait to see the live action Beauty and the Beast.
Kitsune Hayashi We can be soul sisters. You thoughts and experiences exactly match mine. And Belle and Mulan are my absolute favourite disney princesses too. (Especially Belle)
I think she knew the beast was possibly a cursed human because based on theory about the blue book she was reading, it was apparently based on herself but i think it wasnt, rather that it was just based on a fairytale similar to belle.A talking animal already seems abnormal, and at somepoint the beast becomes nice to her and belle being a smart girl, she probably started putting all the pieces together and analyzing the entire situation in comparison to her book she was reading.Remember how in the beginning of the movie she sings" This is my favorite part because you'll see, here's where she meets prince charming".Looking at all those details closely, i think belle came to the conclusion that the beast was a cursed prince and therefore willing to look past his physical appearances and to fall in love with him, otherwise why would she want to fall in love with an animal? I mean why on Earth would a talking animal who has the eyes of a human, stands on its two hind legs, would live in a CASTLE.If I were belle I would start suspecting something.
Wander5101 so do I. I just get mad when people say this movie is about bestiality and Stockholm syndrome. Because both of those statements can be proven false.
i agree, beauty and the beast is a message showing don't judge people by their appearance, e.g. Gaston is portrayed as a very masculine and muscle-ripped man but his personality is egotistical, vain, arrogant and sexist.
I'm so so so happy that someone finally understands and proves that Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. To me Beauty and the Beast is about never judging a book by its cover. It's absolutely amazing that someone finally proves this.
I wholeheartedly agree with this theory of Beauty and the Beast. I've never believed Belle had stockholm syndrome in anyway possible. It would've been easy for people to automatically take the idea of stockholm syndrome into account with this movie because it's shown on the surface and the potrayal of it is ostentatious. But People who believes in the stockholm syndrome that Belle supposedly was said to possess, has missed the hidden facts, the signs that contradicts the condition and that withstands the truth about Belle and Beast's romance. I've always stayed to true the fact that Belle is strong but an outcast and Beast was cruel and...also an outcast. There is no sign of stockholm syndrome depicted in this movie given that these 2 iconic characters are opposites yet equals. They constantly bicker and contradict each other which is how a natural romance should begin to operate when they're against each other's wishes. These destined souls have one thing in common... THEY ARE OUTSIDERS! And they don't fall in love knowingly. They fall for each other through time and patience without an ounce of awareness that they're slowly but surely, falling in love... They're in this world where they've experienced rejection, where they've experienced loneliness. Which I believe is the perfect romance, because falling in love isn't simple. The fact that there are two different or two lost individuals that happens to be alike in a very significant way without even knowing is overall clever. This love I find to be the best because 9 times out of 10 when there are two opposing forces to be reckon with, in the end, when they're together, They end up being the most powerful force ever to encounter. The bond is strong and the romance is slow and easy which makes it ever so sweet and understanding. And this is what I love about Beauty and the Beast. And it will forever be one of my favorite Disney movies ever in Disney history😁💖
The Stockholm Syndrome theory for Belle kind of reminds me of how everyone seems to think Aurora (sleeping beauty) has narcolepsy. She was put under a sleeping curse, that’s literally the main focus of the movie. Its like people don’t even watch the things they’re theorizing about..
Wouldn't it make sense that Belle actually grew feelings for the Beast because she knows he's just under a spell and he's a person? I do agree with your statement that they were both outcasts and unaccepted persons and it could be one of the main reasons they fall in love with each other, but since there's been a lot of controversy about the beastiality thing -which depresses me a lot because it's a movie for children with a beautiful message-, it makes a lot of sense to me that she let her feelings for him blossom because she knows he's not an actual beast
The beastiality thing is kind of stupid when you consider that the beast is obviously human. He has human eyes, dresses like a human, acts like a human, even if Belle didn’t know about the curse I still think it’s stupid to apply it to a story without any of the actual problems with beastiality
Supposedly, around the time the original french novel was written, the Beast character was based on a real life person who had hypertrichosis and his wife. The only person that fits the bill is the infamous Petrus Gonsalvuz of Tenerife, who was part of the king of France's court in 1547, which is near the dates when the story takes place. It is said that neither he or his seven children (who inherited the condition) were seen as humans, rather as "beasts", his wife Lady Catherine being the "Belle" in this case. It has happened before, for example Frankenstein really did exist, except that he wasn't a mad scientist making a person out of corpses, he was just your average medical student researching the time's new science fad.
I think you did a great job analysis the film "Beauty and the Beast". Your conclusion about the question which Belle Has Stockholm Syndrome, is quite true as for my opinion: I think she doesn't. I think that the true message behind this movie is more deep and strong as far as we all know. Belle is falling inlove with the Beast, because as you said, he changes and has shown his true emotions to her when the time passes latter on. As for Belle, she is starting to feel care for him because she can see his true desires as a woman ans as a human been with a strong personality. She has a pure heart and that's why her feelings are changed at the time for the Beast. If Gaston has been shown a bit of change, I believe that Belle would have been had eccepted Gaston as a friend, like she did with the Beast. This message is very important, beacuse the true change of the Beast from the inside reveals his true form the outside. Belle is pure and sincere from both sides: inside and outside, and only by identifying with both sides, as a true Beast he could changed from his own will, like Belle does, from the beggining.
Who cares? Gaston is nothing but a lustful, narcissistic douchebag Yandere who cares about no one but himself and he'll never learn anything and change for the better.
I really think that the message Beauty and The Beast sends off is that Looks really don't matter, and that it is possible for us to fall in love with one's personality.
Thank you for making this video. I love it! I think because a lot of people in the world are confused about what real love is, that they look at this movie and just think that its not real love, that their relationship is based on forced emotions. Of course this movie is a fairy tale, but this story actually depicts that, not only have they taken the time to know each other and respect each other, but also that their love was platonic, that they didnt need to "prove" that they "love" each other by taking things too physical too fast.
Thank You Isac you have truly summed up the meaning of Beauty and the Beast and that it is not a case of stupid stockholm syndrome, this is a story of love and compassionate and looking beyond appearances to know the real monsters are which are only discovered through their behavior and personalities. It truly is a tale as old as time
Ya she doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. She just sees past his beastly appearance and sees him for who he really is. She changed him and showed him how to love. IDK why people even thought of this theory.
Very convincing video. I never really saw Beauty and the Beast as a movie with theories of Stockholm Syndrome, even watching the movie so many times. The only message I got was that you should love and appreciate a person for their inner beauty, even with flaws.
Meaning of Beauty and the Beast (in my opinion): looks aren't important; having a good heart is. If you take Belle's description of Gaston "He's handsome alright...and rude and conceited..." and then compare it to how she describes Beast "true, that he's no prince charming But there's something in him that I simply didn't see" it seems obvious (to me). Also, the spell the enchantress put on Beast has the theme of 'don't let your looks determine who you are'. The idea Belle only got with him was because she had Stockholm Syndrome seems ridiculous (to me).
This is such a wonderful video!! Thank you for taking the time to explain and debunk this theory. My wedding was beauty and the beast themed and it would have never been so if it was a story about Stockholm syndrome. Beauty and the beast is one of Disney’s most classic and beautifully romantic movies. Both Belle and the beast are able to grow as individuals and find satisfaction despite the outside worlds opinions of them,while sharing the beautiful experience with each other meanwhile Belle still maintaining her inner values which part are her not changing views or morals for others. It’s a story of finding love in unexpected places, True beauty is found within, and never giving up on finding true love and those you love.
finally a someone doesn't say she has Stockholm syndrome I always believe she did not have Stockholm syndrome she fell in love with him when he was changing can u make a video about lefou
I love your explanation of Beauty and the Beast. When I first heard a theory that Belle had Stockholm Syndrome, it didn't sit well with me. I found your video and found my answers. I think Beauty and the Beast is a tale of finding the beauty within others and, in a relationship, caring more about the other person's hopes and dreams than your own. It is a beautiful, classic story and is by far one of my favorites.
NO!!! If she did then I don't think that the Curse would have been broken because the feelings would not have been real. Also I do not think that the Beast would have let her go. I think that Beauty and the Beast is a story about outcasts finding love and acceptance with each other.
I don't even think Belle and the Beast love each other until she returns to the castle to save his life. It seems like she develops more of a sympathetic friendship until he releases her, then finally professes her love once he dies after defeating Gaston. It's that expression of love that restores him to his human form and saves his life. Remember that if Belle had professed her love earlier, the curse would have been broken, but since that didn't happen, it shows that Belle never explicitly stated her love for him until he was 100% reformed by releasing her from her captivity and telling her to go back to her father.
I love how the live-action version of the film smoothed everything out. The Beast and Belle bond over reading more than in the animated film, Gaston has more than the Mob Song to show he's a bad guy.....I just really love Beauty and the Beast lol
Thank you so much. Beauty and the Beast is my favourite movie of all time because of exactly what you just said, and I absolutelly hate it when people go "OH ITS ABOUT BESTIALITY AND STOCKHOLM SYNDROME AND THATS IT" and then I have to explain it to them how much it is not and why it is my favourite movie of all time. So thank you so much for putting it into a video as anything about it just shows the word more and more what Beauty and the Beast is truly, and it is honestly sort of ironic that the main message is about not being deceived by appearances and people do just that with it. Again thank you, and I hope this video blows up because it is WONDERFUL and the world needs to see it.
I am very grateful for your video. When I was in a course for Abnormal Psychology, I had read the DSM-5 requirements for Stockholm Syndrome. It's a reshaping of behavior through constant, negative stimuli. This is not present. When I researched this theory, my experiences have yielded sources that not only mislabel this syndrome, but would also label "multiple personality" (it's DID; there's a red flag already) and schizophrenia as the same thing. While a very few symptoms may be similar, that statement is nonetheless horribly inaccurate. My personal theory; believers of this theory have fallen into the Story's Trap. The believers see the beast as a constantly harmful threat; he is such a terrible animal after all. That limited view never changes. Even as 'a gentleman', such viewers can't see past the threatening past actions or present appearance. However, Belle does. On a final note, there's already a good example of Stockholm Syndrome. Harlee Quinn. Compare Belle to Harley Quinn and the differences become perfectly clear.
Honestly I find that the whole stock home syndrome theory underminds the moral of the story. At the end of Beauty and the Beast we are supposed to learn two things.1: that everyone deserves to be loved even a beast.2: in order to love others we must first love ourselves. By saying that Belle has stock home syndrome we take away that message by invalidating Belle's love for the beast. We also take away from beast's figurative transformation into the man he was meant to be by saying that he is just a captor undeserving of love.
And don't forget the time period, her being a woman and hmm, TRYING TO READ??!! That was a huge thing that people frowned upon at the time in history. Women were to remain home, cook, clean, and bear children. Also, if this was historicly accurate, she would have married Gaston, and Gaston would be the hero of the story. He struck down a monster, so he would have been revered as a hero. Weather or not she liked Gaston, there was something called an arranged marriage. Since Gaston was the brightest, wealthiest, most skilled, and hadsome man in the town, Belle's father would be an idiot not to have his daughter marry Gaston. Belle, would not have had a choice. Considering it takes place in the 1700's in France. At the time women were to remain obedient to men. It's the hard, historical truth
If women reading at that time was really that much of a problem. I don't think the town's folk would've just question her and say she she Odd. I think they would've actually done something about it. But maybe this movie takes place somewhere were women are slowly becoming equal to men.
Thank you really for debunking that stupid theory! It's really nice to see someone who did enough research to actually understand Stockholm syndrom. Another sign that Belle is not under it is that she doesn't have big changes in her personality: victims of the syndrom will often go through big changes, whether it's in their personalities or believes. Belle remains the same girl.
Thank you for making this! i completely agree. But i think the entire lesson of beauty and the beast is to learn to look past someones appearance or differences to love and care for people for who they truly are no matter their differences.
do a video about the age that beast was when he was cursed. in paintings he looks to be the age he is at the end of the film, yet he seems to be the only one to age throughout the film (as he has to find true love before he turns 21) and lumiere says 'ten years we've been rusting' implying it's been 10 years since the curse was placed. meaning beast would have been 10/11.
Kimberley Taylor-Bradley yes I wondered the same thing but I was reading something that said he was like only 7 or 8 years old which in my opinion if it's that true if he was that young even if he was 10 years clearly living alone parents probably dead and he was probably taught to not let strangers in to what would be his house so the enchantress tricked the crap out of the poor prince.
Chris Beamish exactly! its so confusing, like as a 23 year old I wouldn't let a stranger in my house let alone if I was a young kid! I would definitely be cursed 😂
Kimberley Taylor-Bradley same here but I'm the one of those people when you get to the end of the movie and he transforms back to the prince and I'm thinking I would rather have stayed the beast.
My theory, and it's a theory I've had since I watched the movie as a child, that when the spell was cast on the castle, that not only did it cause the inhabitants to change, but that they were all frozen in time in a sense. No one aged, not even the beast, and that explains how chip stayed a young boy for so long. Why would the spell freeze them at their current ages? Who knows, but it's just magic. But to me it's the only explanation that makes sense with the evidence given in the movie.
Thank you so much for making this video! I can’t tell you the number of people give me a hard time about this movie. As soon as I mention Beauty and the Beast is my favorite they instantly say Belle was suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. As soon as I hear those accusations I send them to this video. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Thank you for defending my favorite movie!
I have a theory regarding the wolves from the movie. They're part of the Enchantresses spell, but not to hinder the Beast chances of finding love, but to enforce his chances. The wolves backed Maurice into a corner so that he'd have nowhere to go but the castle. They chased Phileep (the horse) out of the woods to retrieve help. And when Belle tries to escape the castle, they attempt to kill her only to draw the Beasts attention and give him an excuse to save her, thus testing his empathy for others, and the victims (in this case Belle) empathy for him in return.
"It is a tale as old as time about how teo dejected people could accept the reasons why others banished them, and fall in love". I didn't tear up at that last minute, I swear.
Wow, you did actual analysis instead of just making snarky jokes. It's almost like you fucking tried! That's a comment on other channels, not yours. This was a solid video.
One last point: the spell was very clear about needing to be broken by having the Beast love someone, and have that love returned. Not that the spell would be broken by forcing someone to submit to Stockholm syndrome and feel a "sympathetic" love. It wants proper love.
thank you thank you thank you so much for clearing this up! All of my life I have seen Belle as a strong, independent woman, and someone I idolized. But when the Stockholm Syndrome people came, I was so confused. watching video has made me idolize Belle once again and I can watch the movie and remember that it is what's on the inside that counts.
I thought it was a tale about how love can truly change someone and growing from selfishness to selflessness can change someone's heart. It also is a tale of two misunderstood people coming together. I watched the live version today and I thought it was a great film.
*Idiotic topic!* It's 100% clear that Belle did not have Stockholm Syndrome - and an insult to those who truly have 'been there'. Belle has a great deal of power as well as fearlessness and pragmatism.
Thank you for this video. I totally agree with you in thinking that the true story of beauty and the beast is a story of love between two outsiders. No way disney would go so dark as to write a storyabout stockholme syndrome! Love that movie too.
Now I'm starting to see what whole the Disney Renaissance is basically teaching us about; to understand yourselves and each other, embrace what makes you unique from others, make your own choices, and accept and know yourself for who and/or what you truly are despite those having negative judgments of you. Just think, all've these memorable movies; The Little Mermaid, Beauty & The Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Tarzan. They all have inspiring messages and quotes, and most characters' lifestyles mirror what's going on in reality.
I am so glad you put in the effort to disprove the stockholm theory. I always saw myself in Belle , since I was a bookworm that got bullied and am a brunette. I always thought it was a great love story. Thanks for this video Beauty and the Beast is one of my favorites!
My pleasure! I haven't liked hearing how Belle is rude for believing she wants more beyond her town; from my perspective the town seemed cruel and uninterested with her life. I think Belle is a great character and that's why I wanted to make this video. Thanks for watching!
So glad you've defended my childhood! Beauty and the Beast wants people to know that the beauty inside us all is more important than physical attractiveness. The same people who say this masterpiece is about a toxic relationship. Thank you
Nice and very thorough analysis. :) The way I look at this is that they were both prisoners in their own ways, which gave them something in common, and both learned to accept and ultimately love each other despite being different from each other and others around them. When the Beast gave Belle his library, for example, the point wasn't that her affections could be bought by material gifts, it was that he accepted her quirky love of books, and in this way he sort of set her free already just by being someone (near her age) who accepted her. And then when Belle saw how he tried in earnest to eat in a "civilized" manner but struggled physically, she appreciated this and compromised (sipping directly from the bowl) so that they could both eat neatly in the same way. These are two important elements of relationships, and the third would be love, which the Beast demonstrated to Belle by letting her go with no strings attached whatsoever (and Belle never said that she would return)--this was a selfless sacrifice on his part, and given the reactions of most of the other characters, it was a lesson in the true meaning of love, which I think is another important theme of the movie. Back to Stockholm Syndrome, while it's good that you knocked down all of the minor points as well, it all boils down to the fact that Belle did not adopt the Beast's initial views or ways of thinking out of fear (or for any other reason--she simply did not), and she never accepted his bad behavior. Rather, he was the one who changed his whole perspective when he realized that he cared about her. This is all about acceptance and love, not Stockholm Syndrome in the least, as you proved.
The theme of the monster vs the love of another person, come in folk lore often. Beasts appearance is symbolic of how some people respond to rejection and the redemption that can come from the acceptance of another. Love is transformative. To reduce it to a mental illness, or sex with an animal just proves that some people don't understand the nuance of stories like this. They are meant to remind us to be kind and see past a person's initial looks or behavior if we can.
I really enjoyed this video, especially when you finally said what was the true message of this movie: in fact that's why it's my all time favorite Disney movie. For the society Belle and Beast were "freaks", but for each other they were one of a kind and that point makes this movie so romantic and meaningful
Also, Belle didn’t suffer much abuse other than the Beasts temper. Even though it can be mentally damaging over a long period of time, it didn’t look like she was there long enough for it to affect her mentally because she often stood up for herself. And she never needed to do certain things to survive as she first denied food that the Beast offered, and to later be treated like a true guest by everyone when she first came out of her room. And also when the Beast changed his behavior. So she got good care most of her stay, if not all since she was offered the basic things to survive. And even more since she got to move freely around and do whatever she pleases outside the West wing.
Thank you this is one of my favorite disney movies and I hate when people say it's a story of Stockholm syndrome it's shows how to truly love some one you have to look past their flaws or for the beast see more than just a pretty face if you notice Gaston only "loves" belle because of her beauty not because she's smart or strong willed. Beauty and the Beast is a story about looking past the surface and falling in love with the person's heart, mind, and soul.
FINALLY!!! Somebody sees what the story was truly about and full understanding of actual Stockholm. She didn’t fall in love with an animal, she fell in with the human inside. Since he was/is a man with a cursed appearance.
Great video, I completely agree with you it's not about Stockholm Syndrome, it's about being who are different from everyone else. To be independent and to stand up for yourself. I don't know why other people think of Stockholm Syndrome to Beauty and the Beast but it's not, it's ridiculous. It's a great love story between two different characters whom Belle is an independent woman, stands up for what she believes in and she is different as who she is with personality and has her own mind. And Beast is judged by his appearance, only turned into a beast when he did not show compassion, kindness or love when he was human. When Belle is held as prisoner in Beast's castle, she does constantly argue with Beast, that shows she's the kind of person not to be pushed around by anyone, including Beast. Later Beast see's that in her, and later they both devolp deep feelings for each other. I love the movie, it's my favorite.
The Prince was described at the beginning of the movie as spoiled, selfish and unkind, with no love towards anyone. This description is also applied to Gaston as well.
I remember watching a video in high school English about Disney and this topic came up. I didn’t serge with the Stockholm Syndom then it now. Belle always verbally fought back or left when the beast was unkind. Also Belle know the the beast was originally human. The servents tell her that they all used to he human and she found a painting of him as a human. Belle never goes out of her way to harm anyone in the villagers just want to mind her own business. The villagers are the ones talking being behind her back. Belle knows this and is little more than annoyed by it. I mean look what they did to her dad! I think the point of the movie is to not judge a book be its cover. A beaut can be smart, a beast can learn to be kind, and normal people can do evil things. The movie play with expectations of Disney/fairytales characters though character designs and stereotypes.
Thank you for basically proving that Bell doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome or Beastliality. Beastliality is when a human being falls in love with an animal and given the fact that Beast is in fact a human prince under a terrible curse that turned him into a beast in the first place, we can conclude that Bell doesn't have Beastliality either.
thank you for finally clarifying this! I hope everyone thats ever claimed belle has stockholm syndrome watches this. I actually watched the movie yesterday as its def my fave classic disney movie
Exactly! That's why I love this movie and tale so much! as a kid I never saw this as bestiality or Stockholm syndrome etc just two living souls that were misunderstood by society and rejected. That somehow encountered each other, Belle changed the beast with her bravery to defy him at ever turn in the beginning and love, patience only when he decided to change his attitude towards her and others.
The reason beast became nice to belle was no matter how evil and mean he was to her father and to her. Belle could have left him to die in the woods and escape but she brought him back and nutured him to health. Even while he was getting healed she could have left any time but she stayed to make sure he got well. Thats why he was nice to belle and fell in love with her over time.
I dont get why people claim she has S.S - it should be obvious that she stayed with the Beast on her own terms more than once, and the second time around was because of her sympathetic nature. And even AFTER she saved him, it was clear that she was capable of standing up to him and taking charge of the relationship (arguing rightfully with him about how he frightened her, showing him how to read, eat, and be kind to animals, and even leading their iconic ballroom dance!). Belle has no messed up attachment to the Beast. The Beast changed himself to make her happy because he was regretful of his actions, and it was only then that she started to truly fall in love with him as a _person_ and not because she's his "captive".
Saying that she could have Stockholm syndrome just makes it feel like the sacrifices that they made for each other non genuine. Belle sacrificed her freedom to save Adam(the Beast). And Adam sacrificed his life to save her from the wolves. Belle doesn’t have Stockholm Syndrome, she wasn’t kidnapped and there was no abusive behavior, Adam just wasn’t being a gentleman. And in his defense he did give her her own room and let her go where she pleased on the castle grounds. Except the West Wing being that that was where his room was and he wanted his privacy/space just like she did.
This video makes a lot of sense! I never saw it as Stockholm Syndrome. The first time I saw a comment about it in a video, I didn't even know what Stockholm Syndrome was at the time.
The guy who came up with the phrase Stockholm syndrome has said Beauty And The Beast does not fit Stockholm Syndrome for several reasons,1,she’s was not kidnapped and isn’t being held against her will,she chooses to stay there not once but TWICE,she doesn’t bond with Beast her first night there,they have separate bedrooms,she’s never 100% alone with him,his household staff is around,the only time her life is in danger in both the 1991 and 2017 films is when she encounters the wolves,Belle IS AWARE of her feelings and how Beast has changed,she never changes,he does,she melts his cold,unfeeling heart as they get to know and understand eachother in fact the guy who invented the phrase has said the only time in either version Belle could develop the Syndrome is with GASTON,because it’s the only time in the films that’s she’s locked up against her will.The abuse allegations don’t fit either because Beast is only mean to her for ONE night,they don’t go through a CONSTANT cycle of him verbally abusing her,hitting her,pretending he’s changed and then he goes back to physically or emotional harming her,NONE of that occurs,abusers are obsessed with their victims,they become controlling,they control how their victim talks,how they dress,what they eat,how they wear their hair,etc,beast never does any of that.
If there was stockholm syndrome than belle would have obeyed the beast sooner, there was time put into their relationship and I believe they truly love eachother
I will say this: in this story, belle offers to trade her father's place and the beast for the first time sees selflessness in belle. It shocks yet intrigues him. I get the arguments for stockholm syndrome, but these two go through trials and the beast does fix the errors in his actions with belle with him being a better man and letting her go for no reward. It shows how his selfish ways are disappearing.
I agree; Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome in the movie. She disagrees with him and only starts to fall in love when he starts acting nice to her. Not to mention she left the castle twice, only going back because it was the right thing to do.
I'm glad you think so as well! Thanks for watching!
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And she actually gets to know her prince before falling in love with him.
As a recovering victim of Stockholm syndrome(CPTSD), I agree. Belle doesn't have Stockholm syndrome, she's found a true love in the understanding she doesn't have to conform to society, and has someone to journey through that with her.
@@cioramirez3376 yep exactly.
belle is truly a strong woman that made her own decisions. and omg the ending of the video when you said "It is a tale as old as time depicting how two rejected people could accept the reasons others banish them and fall in love" beautifully summarized thank you
My pleasure! I'm happy you enjoyed the video and the message I had to share. Thanks for watching!
Levy Redfox yeah true true
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God's angels are guiding her 🙏
@@IsaacCarlson hey Isaac who’s your favorite princess
there are two cases of Stockholm Syndrome in the Disney line up but beauty and the beast is not one of them. They are Quasimodo in the hunchback of Notre Dam with Count Frollo and Rapunzel with Mother Gothel neither of which are portrayed in a positive light.
Totally agree. That would be a great video on its own. Thanks for watching!
Wrong. Quasimodo and Rapunzel see the person controlling them as a parental figure who raised them, and they never considered themselves prisoners to begin with. In contrast Beast is a complete stranger to Belle, and SHE DOES consider herself a prisoner. Belle absolutely meets the criteria for Stockholm syndrome, Quasimodo and Rapunzel don't.
wrong. belle doesnt fit Stockholm Syndrome because Stockholm syndrome is more than likely a lie. The people just went along with what the robbers said so they wouldn't die. Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome. not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast.
"Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome." - How so? The only criteria is that someone develops an emotional attachment to someone holding them prisoner.
"not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast." - She literally says, "If you hadn't frightened me I wouldn't have run away".
It's ironic you say that. I've seen a "Tangled" tribute video, using the song "Out There". The parallels are SPOOKY.
Thank you so much for this. People repeat the damn Stockholm Syndrome thing so often that when a psychology panel determined that the only Disney characters to show actual signs of Stockholm Syndrome were Quasimodo (Hunchback of NotreDame) and Rapunzel (Tangled) there were immediately comments insisting that Belle HAD to have it and "Rapunzel can't have it. She thought Gothel was her mother." Making it clear they had no idea what the syndrome actually entails.
My pleasure! I'm happy I could make the video. That's so true about Quasi and Rapunzel. Thanks for watching!
yeah, Rapunsel is debatable simply because she doesn't know she's a prisoner. She just thinks she has a over protective mother. But definitely Belle doesn't have it. She has gratitude sure, so does the beast. But it wasn't stockholm syndrome.
Finally, someone stands up against that theory.
I was truly just frustrated with the amount of negative ideas swirling around this movie and wanted to bring my perspective to why I think it's a great love story. I never thought of any of these negative themes until I was told them. Thanks for watching!
I know right
Goddamn thank you so much dude it really is ridiculous the lengths some people would go to portray this movie in a negative light.
I mean... I like the movie. It's not like my super favorite of all time. But the argument that Stockholm Syndrome was involved just felt... insulting to me for the longest time. I think it's because I always recalled Belle as a strong character and accusing her of having Stockholm Syndrome is a slap in the face to that.
She could've left Beast in the snow to die.
Her own father urged her to go home and not take his place. She did an ENORMOUSLY HEROIC THING there.
She TAMED THE BEAST. The beast didn't change her, she changed HIM.
Belle is a much stronger character than these Stockholm Syndrome fanatics take her for. Accusing Belle of having it is unforgivably accusing her of having no will of her own, when she clearly exercised her will whenever and however she pleased.
The Stockholm Syndrome thing didn't even start as a Theory, it was a joke in the 90s that people who don't know anything about psychology took too seriously.
True, I always used it as a joke and I didn't realized until now that people really thought seriously about that. Yes she falls in love for her captor but all the rest is out of order. The message is clear: don't judge a book for its cover because is what's on the inside that counts (even that in the beginning you don't like so much, like Lord of the Ring ahah).
I mean, really?! People think that this movie is about Stockholm Syndrome? Yet, when they look at the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship....they think it's true love?! Hypocrisy, much?!
Ikr. Like Harley has Stockholm, not Belle.
Harley is in a emotionally and physically abusive but its not Stockholm Syndrome
Belle sure as heck does NOT have Stockholm syndrome. That is a stupid argument for stupid people who want to push an agenda. I don’t even want to try to understand those people because to them Beauty and the Beast is not ok, yet there is such thing as a “best selling” novel called 50 Shades with a whole freaking underground fetish to go with it🤮 What exactly is the message of 50 Shades of Gray anyway? I don’t even want to know. I better hear the same argument in that story because Belle is 💯 times the woman that freaky perverted girl ever could be.
@@savannahhague7412 She doesn't have it either. She had fallen in love with the Joker when she was his psychiatrist and then willingly left with him. Harley is a victom of abuse. She loved him and it is a sad truth that people in abusive relationships often have a hard time to leave their partners.
I mean in some aspects Harley is mental but I still her character
I think that Disney just wanted tk show us that appearance doesn't matter, is what's on the inside that counts
GabrielGaldo I agree. She learns to see past his looks.
If the film is trying to teach that appearances don't matter then why is the fact that Belle is smoking hot emphasised throughout, including in the title.
DeCipher It's emphasized that she's beautiful,not "smoking hot". And beauty doesn't just have to be about her appearance.It could also be referring to her good nature and kind heart and sweet attitude.
trulylashton they did that in the movie Beastly
trulylashton this is off topic but,I love your name!
While it's understandable where the idea comes from, the movie being about Stockholm Syndrome is ultimately inaccurate. Stockholm Syndrome is when a captive feels positive emotions for their captor because they mistake a lack of abusive behavior for kindness, however while Belle agrees to stay with the Beast (a choice that was made by herself in the first place, not by her father or the Beast), she constantly stands up to the Beast and defies his threats and punishments when he treats her badly, therefore not allowing him any power over her beyond being able to keep her in the same general location. She doesn't show him any affection until he finally stops acting like a jerk (he doesn't display any abusive behavior after she saves his life) and starts consistently treating her with respect. And it is only after the Beast frees Belle, making them complete equals with no power imbalance at all in their relationship that she's able to finally fall in love with him. It's also clear that while the Beast had an outside motivation to make Belle like him and to change his behavior, the changes in his character are genuine as seen in his act of mercy in sparing Gaston's life in the climax of the film. Additionally, the idea that the story is about Stockholm Syndrome ignores the fact that the original fairy tale it was based off of was meant to be an allegory for arranged marriages and for the apprehension and fear a young bride would feel about starting a new life with a strange man she might not like at first.
mannystella I did not know that it was an allagory for that. That makes since though.
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I’m glad you recognize that she wasn’t kidnapped. She went there by and stayed by choice. Stockholm generally applies to those that are kidnapped.
You can see Stockholm Syndrome in Rapunzel and Mother Gothel. Rapunzel believes that mother Gothel loves her and uses her hair to stay with her as long as possible. While in reality Gothel only loves the hair. When Rapunzel isn’t allowed to leave the tower she thinks that Gothel is only trying to protect her. And when Gothel threatens to kill Flynn, this is when she finally sees her true motives.
When I read Gaston I thought it said Gaster
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I appreciate this explanation so much. The older I get, the more all these innocent lovely things I knew as a child become perverted. The older I get the more I realize it is important to consider these adulterated conclusions so we can explain them properly and discuss them as adults. I'm glad to see someone else in the world who has not lost faith in the purity of innocent and lovely things such as this.
That's what I really want my channel to be about: pouring through the magic of so many films. I think some dark theories are okay sometimes, but in this case I just felt so opposed to this idea. Thanks for watching!
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isn't it odd that we only think of this things as adults? and as kids we were happy with happily ever after the end? i mean, what if its not meant to be analyzed so deeply? because the only time you start thinking, dissecting and analyzing is when you are an adult way pass the main target audience of fairytales and disney cartoons so maybe the message is actually simple and not something complex like stockholm or abuse or things like that because as kids the world is not like that, it is funny and wonderful and full of love and friendship and other corny stuff like that.
"Perverted" meaning twisted from the original intention, changed to something darker, etc. The application of Stockholm Syndrome to Beauty and the Beast changes the original meaning to something darker - it "perverts" the meaning.
YES. HELL YES TO THIS. When I was just a little kid and watched this movie nothing else in the world could've destroyed it for me. It's a tale as old as time about two rejected people finding each other in the strangest of ways falling in love. And now a bunch of people are saying ""Hurr durr Belle has Stockholm syndrome"" :/
Why is it that people judge fairytales so harshly? They were meant for entertainment, no one even thought about character development/love relations when they were created. I think Disney did a pretty good job at portraying a romance story that has good chemistry and progression.
Beauty and the Beast may be one of the more progressive fairy tales we got. The Little Mermaid might’ve been part of that group too.
Because small children are learning from them subconsciously
I love Belle, she encourages women that reading books, having an imagination and being educated doesn't make you strange but it makes you different in the best way. They fall in love with each other because of their personalities. She also shows a lot of interest in him when she finds out he owns a library and when he protects her from the wolves. She falls in love with the person he is, not for any other reason. I love that you debunked this theory!! Xx
I think that the "theory" of Bell having Stockholm Syndrome is just ridiculous, and was created as just another case of people wanting to find controversy in a movie, story, show, etc when there never was any to begin with; basically just making things up via social media for attention. I love this movie and its one of my personal favorites among the Disney movies; I think that the moral of this story (the movie) is that you shouldn't judge a person solely on appearances or before you get the chance to know them as a person, etc, and I personally think that, that is a great moral message for kids.
I never once thought Belle had Stockholm Syndrome. I've had the Beauty and the Beast since I was a little kid, and even when I heard about the "theory", I knew it wasn't true. Belle is a misunderstood girl in a town that wants her to be just like them, something I've had to deal with as well. I wasn't into makeup and dresses when I was growing up, and I read so many books and made art because those were my only true friends at the time. After watching this movie a few weeks ago, I remembered how much I loved the movie and how much I could relate to Belle. Belle and Mulan are my favorite princesses, and I cannot wait to see the live action Beauty and the Beast.
Kitsune Hayashi We can be soul sisters. You thoughts and experiences exactly match mine. And Belle and Mulan are my absolute favourite disney princesses too. (Especially Belle)
I think she knew the beast was possibly a cursed human because based on theory about the blue book she was reading, it was apparently based on herself but i think it wasnt, rather that it was just based on a fairytale similar to belle.A talking animal already seems abnormal, and at somepoint the beast becomes nice to her and belle being a smart girl, she probably started putting all the pieces together and analyzing the entire situation in comparison to her book she was reading.Remember how in the beginning of the movie she sings" This is my favorite part because you'll see, here's where she meets prince charming".Looking at all those details closely, i think belle came to the conclusion that the beast was a cursed prince and therefore willing to look past his physical appearances and to fall in love with him, otherwise why would she want to fall in love with an animal? I mean why on Earth would a talking animal who has the eyes of a human, stands on its two hind legs, would live in a CASTLE.If I were belle I would start suspecting something.
Melody Tunes she also found the rose and pressed heavy for the truth but didn’t act like she did assume but found out when she actually show the rose.
Thank you so much for being against that theory because Beauty and the Beast is a beautiful movie
My pleasure! I think it's a wonderful film; it's one of my favorites! Thanks for watching!
This is one of my favorite Disney movies!
Mine as well! Thanks for watching!
This and The Princess and the Frog are my favorite Disney movies.
Shaden Arour are you going to see the live action?
JoyfishXO Mine 2!!
Wander5101 so do I. I just get mad when people say this movie is about bestiality and Stockholm syndrome. Because both of those statements can be proven false.
The only one I know of who could have Stockholm syndrome is Harley Quinn of the Batman series..given how the joker treats her and stuff
i agree, beauty and the beast is a message showing don't judge people by their appearance, e.g. Gaston is portrayed as a very masculine and muscle-ripped man but his personality is egotistical, vain, arrogant and sexist.
I'm so so so happy that someone finally understands and proves that Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. To me Beauty and the Beast is about never judging a book by its cover. It's absolutely amazing that someone finally proves this.
I always thought the message of beauty and the beast was"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
I really like how you explained what Stockholm Syndrome is and how Belle does not have it.
I wholeheartedly agree with this theory of Beauty and the Beast. I've never believed Belle had stockholm syndrome in anyway possible. It would've been easy for people to automatically take the idea of stockholm syndrome into account with this movie because it's shown on the surface and the potrayal of it is ostentatious. But People who believes in the stockholm syndrome that Belle supposedly was said to possess, has missed the hidden facts, the signs that contradicts the condition and that withstands the truth about Belle and Beast's romance. I've always stayed to true the fact that Belle is strong but an outcast and Beast was cruel and...also an outcast. There is no sign of stockholm syndrome depicted in this movie given that these 2 iconic characters are opposites yet equals. They constantly bicker and contradict each other which is how a natural romance should begin to operate when they're against each other's wishes. These destined souls have one thing in common... THEY ARE OUTSIDERS! And they don't fall in love knowingly. They fall for each other through time and patience without an ounce of awareness that they're slowly but surely, falling in love... They're in this world where they've experienced rejection, where they've experienced loneliness. Which I believe is the perfect romance, because falling in love isn't simple. The fact that there are two different or two lost individuals that happens to be alike in a very significant way without even knowing is overall clever. This love I find to be the best because 9 times out of 10 when there are two opposing forces to be reckon with, in the end, when they're together, They end up being the most powerful force ever to encounter. The bond is strong and the romance is slow and easy which makes it ever so sweet and understanding. And this is what I love about Beauty and the Beast. And it will forever be one of my favorite Disney movies ever in Disney history😁💖
ZAI C wowwwwww great thoughts about love and relationships.
The Stockholm Syndrome theory for Belle kind of reminds me of how everyone seems to think Aurora (sleeping beauty) has narcolepsy. She was put under a sleeping curse, that’s literally the main focus of the movie. Its like people don’t even watch the things they’re theorizing about..
Exactly!!! 👏👏👏
Wouldn't it make sense that Belle actually grew feelings for the Beast because she knows he's just under a spell and he's a person? I do agree with your statement that they were both outcasts and unaccepted persons and it could be one of the main reasons they fall in love with each other, but since there's been a lot of controversy about the beastiality thing -which depresses me a lot because it's a movie for children with a beautiful message-, it makes a lot of sense to me that she let her feelings for him blossom because she knows he's not an actual beast
The beastiality thing is kind of stupid when you consider that the beast is obviously human. He has human eyes, dresses like a human, acts like a human, even if Belle didn’t know about the curse I still think it’s stupid to apply it to a story without any of the actual problems with beastiality
Supposedly, around the time the original french novel was written, the Beast character was based on a real life person who had hypertrichosis and his wife.
The only person that fits the bill is the infamous Petrus Gonsalvuz of Tenerife, who was part of the king of France's court in 1547, which is near the dates when the story takes place. It is said that neither he or his seven children (who inherited the condition) were seen as humans, rather as "beasts", his wife Lady Catherine being the "Belle" in this case.
It has happened before, for example Frankenstein really did exist, except that he wasn't a mad scientist making a person out of corpses, he was just your average medical student researching the time's new science fad.
FINALLY!!! Someone has Debunked this cynical view of Beauty and the Beast. A THOUSAND PRAISES TO YOU Wotso Videos.
I think you did a great job analysis the film "Beauty and the Beast". Your conclusion about the question which Belle Has Stockholm Syndrome, is quite true as for my opinion: I think she doesn't.
I think that the true message behind this movie is more deep and strong as far as we all know. Belle is falling inlove with the Beast, because as you said, he changes and has shown his true emotions to her when the time passes latter on. As for Belle, she is starting to feel care for him because she can see his true desires as a woman ans as a human been with a strong personality. She has a pure heart and that's why her feelings are changed at the time for the Beast. If Gaston has been shown a bit of change, I believe that Belle would have been had eccepted Gaston as a friend, like she did with the Beast.
This message is very important, beacuse the true change of the Beast from the inside reveals his true form the outside. Belle is pure and sincere from both sides: inside and outside, and only by identifying with both sides, as a true Beast he could changed from his own will, like Belle does, from the beggining.
Who cares? Gaston is nothing but a lustful, narcissistic douchebag Yandere who cares about no one but himself and he'll never learn anything and change for the better.
Belle wants a gentleman, not a manbaby. The Beast was that gentleman, Gaston was the manbaby.
I really think that the message Beauty and The Beast sends off is that Looks really don't matter, and that it is possible for us to fall in love with one's personality.
The whole Stockholm Syndrome thing started more as a joke.....
I remember first hearing of it in some princess rap battle
Wow Amazing.......The deeper meaning that you got for this is way true than the actual meaning that everyone already knows.
I'm happy you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Bless you for making this. Seriously.
I'm happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
She didn't fall in love with Beast until after she nursed him, and after he started being much more nicer to her.
Thank you for making this video. I love it!
I think because a lot of people in the world are confused about what real love is, that they look at this movie and just think that its not real love, that their relationship is based on forced emotions. Of course this movie is a fairy tale, but this story actually depicts that, not only have they taken the time to know each other and respect each other, but also that their love was platonic, that they didnt need to "prove" that they "love" each other by taking things too physical too fast.
I'm happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Thank You Isac you have truly summed up the meaning of Beauty and the Beast and that it is not a case of stupid stockholm syndrome, this is a story of love and compassionate and looking beyond appearances to know the real monsters are which are only discovered through their behavior and personalities. It truly is a tale as old as time
Thank you!!
I'm so sick of this Stockholm syndrome BS!
Ya she doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. She just sees past his beastly appearance and sees him for who he really is. She changed him and showed him how to love. IDK why people even thought of this theory.
Very convincing video. I never really saw Beauty and the Beast as a movie with theories of Stockholm Syndrome, even watching the movie so many times. The only message I got was that you should love and appreciate a person for their inner beauty, even with flaws.
I never believed in the theory of Belle and the Stockholm theory...
Never.
Meaning of Beauty and the Beast (in my opinion): looks aren't important; having a good heart is. If you take Belle's description of Gaston "He's handsome alright...and rude and conceited..." and then compare it to how she describes Beast "true, that he's no prince charming But there's something in him that I simply didn't see" it seems obvious (to me). Also, the spell the enchantress put on Beast has the theme of 'don't let your looks determine who you are'.
The idea Belle only got with him was because she had Stockholm Syndrome seems ridiculous (to me).
I found a theory that chip is adopted
Interesting. I think I have heard about that once. Thanks for watching!
That'd be an interesting topic to cover if the theory can be found
He's Prince half-bro. ;-)
This is such a wonderful video!! Thank you for taking the time to explain and debunk this theory. My wedding was beauty and the beast themed and it would have never been so if it was a story about Stockholm syndrome.
Beauty and the beast is one of Disney’s most classic and beautifully romantic movies. Both Belle and the beast are able to grow as individuals and find satisfaction despite the outside worlds opinions of them,while sharing the beautiful experience with each other meanwhile Belle still maintaining her inner values which part are her not changing views or morals for others. It’s a story of finding love in unexpected places, True beauty is found within, and never giving up on finding true love and those you love.
finally a someone doesn't say she has Stockholm syndrome I always believe she did not have Stockholm syndrome she fell in love with him when he was changing can u make a video about lefou
I love your explanation of Beauty and the Beast. When I first heard a theory that Belle had Stockholm Syndrome, it didn't sit well with me. I found your video and found my answers.
I think Beauty and the Beast is a tale of finding the beauty within others and, in a relationship, caring more about the other person's hopes and dreams than your own. It is a beautiful, classic story and is by far one of my favorites.
NO!!! If she did then I don't think that the Curse would have been broken because the feelings would not have been real. Also I do not think that the Beast would have let her go.
I think that Beauty and the Beast is a story about outcasts finding love and acceptance with each other.
I don't even think Belle and the Beast love each other until she returns to the castle to save his life. It seems like she develops more of a sympathetic friendship until he releases her, then finally professes her love once he dies after defeating Gaston. It's that expression of love that restores him to his human form and saves his life. Remember that if Belle had professed her love earlier, the curse would have been broken, but since that didn't happen, it shows that Belle never explicitly stated her love for him until he was 100% reformed by releasing her from her captivity and telling her to go back to her father.
I love how the live-action version of the film smoothed everything out. The Beast and Belle bond over reading more than in the animated film, Gaston has more than the Mob Song to show he's a bad guy.....I just really love Beauty and the Beast lol
Thank you so much. Beauty and the Beast is my favourite movie of all time because of exactly what you just said, and I absolutelly hate it when people go "OH ITS ABOUT BESTIALITY AND STOCKHOLM SYNDROME AND THATS IT" and then I have to explain it to them how much it is not and why it is my favourite movie of all time. So thank you so much for putting it into a video as anything about it just shows the word more and more what Beauty and the Beast is truly, and it is honestly sort of ironic that the main message is about not being deceived by appearances and people do just that with it. Again thank you, and I hope this video blows up because it is WONDERFUL and the world needs to see it.
I am very grateful for your video. When I was in a course for Abnormal Psychology, I had read the DSM-5 requirements for Stockholm Syndrome. It's a reshaping of behavior through constant, negative stimuli. This is not present. When I researched this theory, my experiences have yielded sources that not only mislabel this syndrome, but would also label "multiple personality" (it's DID; there's a red flag already) and schizophrenia as the same thing. While a very few symptoms may be similar, that statement is nonetheless horribly inaccurate.
My personal theory; believers of this theory have fallen into the Story's Trap. The believers see the beast as a constantly harmful threat; he is such a terrible animal after all. That limited view never changes. Even as 'a gentleman', such viewers can't see past the threatening past actions or present appearance. However, Belle does.
On a final note, there's already a good example of Stockholm Syndrome. Harlee Quinn. Compare Belle to Harley Quinn and the differences become perfectly clear.
Honestly I find that the whole stock home syndrome theory underminds the moral of the story. At the end of Beauty and the Beast we are supposed to learn two things.1: that everyone deserves to be loved even a beast.2: in order to love others we must first love ourselves. By saying that Belle has stock home syndrome we take away that message by invalidating Belle's love for the beast. We also take away from beast's figurative transformation into the man he was meant to be by saying that he is just a captor undeserving of love.
And don't forget the time period, her being a woman and hmm, TRYING TO READ??!! That was a huge thing that people frowned upon at the time in history. Women were to remain home, cook, clean, and bear children. Also, if this was historicly accurate, she would have married Gaston, and Gaston would be the hero of the story. He struck down a monster, so he would have been revered as a hero. Weather or not she liked Gaston, there was something called an arranged marriage. Since Gaston was the brightest, wealthiest, most skilled, and hadsome man in the town, Belle's father would be an idiot not to have his daughter marry Gaston. Belle, would not have had a choice. Considering it takes place in the 1700's in France. At the time women were to remain obedient to men. It's the hard, historical truth
If women reading at that time was really that much of a problem. I don't think the town's folk would've just question her and say she she Odd. I think they would've actually done something about it. But maybe this movie takes place somewhere were women are slowly becoming equal to men.
Finally you acknowledge the book keeper is also a supporter of Belle, not just Maurice
Thank you really for debunking that stupid theory! It's really nice to see someone who did enough research to actually understand Stockholm syndrom. Another sign that Belle is not under it is that she doesn't have big changes in her personality: victims of the syndrom will often go through big changes, whether it's in their personalities or believes. Belle remains the same girl.
Thank you for making this! i completely agree. But i think the entire lesson of beauty and the beast is to learn to look past someones appearance or differences to love and care for people for who they truly are no matter their differences.
do a video about the age that beast was when he was cursed. in paintings he looks to be the age he is at the end of the film, yet he seems to be the only one to age throughout the film (as he has to find true love before he turns 21) and lumiere says 'ten years we've been rusting' implying it's been 10 years since the curse was placed. meaning beast would have been 10/11.
Kimberley Taylor-Bradley yes I wondered the same thing but I was reading something that said he was like only 7 or 8 years old which in my opinion if it's that true if he was that young even if he was 10 years clearly living alone parents probably dead and he was probably taught to not let strangers in to what would be his house so the enchantress tricked the crap out of the poor prince.
Chris Beamish exactly! its so confusing, like as a 23 year old I wouldn't let a stranger in my house let alone if I was a young kid! I would definitely be cursed 😂
Kimberley Taylor-Bradley same here but I'm the one of those people when you get to the end of the movie and he transforms back to the prince and I'm thinking I would rather have stayed the beast.
Chris Beamish omg yes! I don't understand people who find him attractive?
My theory, and it's a theory I've had since I watched the movie as a child, that when the spell was cast on the castle, that not only did it cause the inhabitants to change, but that they were all frozen in time in a sense. No one aged, not even the beast, and that explains how chip stayed a young boy for so long. Why would the spell freeze them at their current ages? Who knows, but it's just magic. But to me it's the only explanation that makes sense with the evidence given in the movie.
Thank you so much for making this video! I can’t tell you the number of people give me a hard time about this movie. As soon as I mention Beauty and the Beast is my favorite they instantly say Belle was suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. As soon as I hear those accusations I send them to this video. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Thank you for defending my favorite movie!
I almost cried ..when you where talking about their love ..😭😍
I'm glad I was able to craft such an emotional video! Thanks for watching!
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I have a theory regarding the wolves from the movie. They're part of the Enchantresses spell, but not to hinder the Beast chances of finding love, but to enforce his chances. The wolves backed Maurice into a corner so that he'd have nowhere to go but the castle. They chased Phileep (the horse) out of the woods to retrieve help. And when Belle tries to escape the castle, they attempt to kill her only to draw the Beasts attention and give him an excuse to save her, thus testing his empathy for others, and the victims (in this case Belle) empathy for him in return.
Finally, someone sees this movie like I do. And you explained it in so much more detail than what I thought up.
"It is a tale as old as time about how teo dejected people could accept the reasons why others banished them, and fall in love". I didn't tear up at that last minute, I swear.
If Belle had Stockholme syndrome, she'd 1) not argue with the beast, 2) not run away the first time, 3) not disobey him, and 4) Not leave afterwards.
Wow, you did actual analysis instead of just making snarky jokes. It's almost like you fucking tried! That's a comment on other channels, not yours. This was a solid video.
I'm happy you enjoyed it. I really try to make great videos which get across the ideas I want to share. Thanks for watching!
One last point: the spell was very clear about needing to be broken by having the Beast love someone, and have that love returned. Not that the spell would be broken by forcing someone to submit to Stockholm syndrome and feel a "sympathetic" love. It wants proper love.
thank you thank you thank you so much for clearing this up! All of my life I have seen Belle as a strong, independent woman, and someone I idolized. But when the Stockholm Syndrome people came, I was so confused. watching video has made me idolize Belle once again and I can watch the movie and remember that it is what's on the inside that counts.
My pleasure! I'm glad I was able to show how awesome Belle is! Thanks for watching!
I thought it was a tale about how love can truly change someone and growing from selfishness to selflessness can change someone's heart. It also is a tale of two misunderstood people coming together. I watched the live version today and I thought it was a great film.
*Idiotic topic!* It's 100% clear that Belle did not have Stockholm Syndrome - and an insult to those who truly have 'been there'. Belle has a great deal of power as well as fearlessness and pragmatism.
Thank you for this video. I totally agree with you in thinking that the true story of beauty and the beast is a story of love between two outsiders. No way disney would go so dark as to write a storyabout stockholme syndrome! Love that movie too.
why can't it just be a awesome story?
Now I'm starting to see what whole the Disney Renaissance is basically teaching us about; to understand yourselves and each other, embrace what makes you unique from others, make your own choices, and accept and know yourself for who and/or what you truly are despite those having negative judgments of you. Just think, all've these memorable movies; The Little Mermaid, Beauty & The Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Tarzan. They all have inspiring messages and quotes, and most characters' lifestyles mirror what's going on in reality.
im so glad you dont agree, was worried id have to rant and write paragraphs of straight facts xD
I am so glad you put in the effort to disprove the stockholm theory. I always saw myself in Belle , since I was a bookworm that got bullied and am a brunette. I always thought it was a great love story. Thanks for this video Beauty and the Beast is one of my favorites!
My pleasure! I haven't liked hearing how Belle is rude for believing she wants more beyond her town; from my perspective the town seemed cruel and uninterested with her life. I think Belle is a great character and that's why I wanted to make this video. Thanks for watching!
someone actually wants to debunk it. Bravo!
So glad you've defended my childhood! Beauty and the Beast wants people to know that the beauty inside us all is more important than physical attractiveness. The same people who say this masterpiece is about a toxic relationship. Thank you
thank you cuz i hated when ppl call this story a tale of bestiality so thank u for proving them wrong
I got kind of annoyed as well. I just love the story so much and see it as so much more than the accusations. Thanks for watching!
Nalu Howe lol bestiality
Nice and very thorough analysis. :) The way I look at this is that they were both prisoners in their own ways, which gave them something in common, and both learned to accept and ultimately love each other despite being different from each other and others around them. When the Beast gave Belle his library, for example, the point wasn't that her affections could be bought by material gifts, it was that he accepted her quirky love of books, and in this way he sort of set her free already just by being someone (near her age) who accepted her. And then when Belle saw how he tried in earnest to eat in a "civilized" manner but struggled physically, she appreciated this and compromised (sipping directly from the bowl) so that they could both eat neatly in the same way. These are two important elements of relationships, and the third would be love, which the Beast demonstrated to Belle by letting her go with no strings attached whatsoever (and Belle never said that she would return)--this was a selfless sacrifice on his part, and given the reactions of most of the other characters, it was a lesson in the true meaning of love, which I think is another important theme of the movie.
Back to Stockholm Syndrome, while it's good that you knocked down all of the minor points as well, it all boils down to the fact that Belle did not adopt the Beast's initial views or ways of thinking out of fear (or for any other reason--she simply did not), and she never accepted his bad behavior. Rather, he was the one who changed his whole perspective when he realized that he cared about her. This is all about acceptance and love, not Stockholm Syndrome in the least, as you proved.
The theme of the monster vs the love of another person, come in folk lore often. Beasts appearance is symbolic of how some people respond to rejection and the redemption that can come from the acceptance of another. Love is transformative. To reduce it to a mental illness, or sex with an animal just proves that some people don't understand the nuance of stories like this. They are meant to remind us to be kind and see past a person's initial looks or behavior if we can.
I really enjoyed this video, especially when you finally said what was the true message of this movie: in fact that's why it's my all time favorite Disney movie. For the society Belle and Beast were "freaks", but for each other they were one of a kind and that point makes this movie so romantic and meaningful
Do a video on up
Good idea! I've thought a lot about that video, but I'm not sure what I'll do. Thanks for watching!
A permanent guest but still a GUEST.
Lovely! *claps* Just wonderful!
I'm happy you think so! Thanks for watching!
first and hello
Hello! Thanks for being a dedicated fan and commenting! Thanks for watching!
You're welcome Isaac also you and your partner do great
also, have you heard of Disney's kingdom keepers
Also, Belle didn’t suffer much abuse other than the Beasts temper. Even though it can be mentally damaging over a long period of time, it didn’t look like she was there long enough for it to affect her mentally because she often stood up for herself. And she never needed to do certain things to survive as she first denied food that the Beast offered, and to later be treated like a true guest by everyone when she first came out of her room. And also when the Beast changed his behavior. So she got good care most of her stay, if not all since she was offered the basic things to survive. And even more since she got to move freely around and do whatever she pleases outside the West wing.
I joked about it being stockholm syndrome when I was a teenager but never took that seriously. I am glad to see more videos debunking it!
Thank you this is one of my favorite disney movies and I hate when people say it's a story of Stockholm syndrome it's shows how to truly love some one you have to look past their flaws or for the beast see more than just a pretty face if you notice Gaston only "loves" belle because of her beauty not because she's smart or strong willed. Beauty and the Beast is a story about looking past the surface and falling in love with the person's heart, mind, and soul.
And also if she didn’t truly love him he wouldn’t be able to turn back into a prince
Another similar criticism Belle receives is that she sends girls the message "you CAN change an abusive guy."
FINALLY!!! Somebody sees what the story was truly about and full understanding of actual Stockholm.
She didn’t fall in love with an animal, she fell in with the human inside. Since he was/is a man with a cursed appearance.
Great video, I completely agree with you it's not about Stockholm Syndrome, it's about being who are different from everyone else. To be independent and to stand up for yourself. I don't know why other people think of Stockholm Syndrome to Beauty and the Beast but it's not, it's ridiculous. It's a great love story between two different characters whom Belle is an independent woman, stands up for what she believes in and she is different as who she is with personality and has her own mind. And Beast is judged by his appearance, only turned into a beast when he did not show compassion, kindness or love when he was human. When Belle is held as prisoner in Beast's castle, she does constantly argue with Beast, that shows she's the kind of person not to be pushed around by anyone, including Beast. Later Beast see's that in her, and later they both devolp deep feelings for each other. I love the movie, it's my favorite.
The Prince was described at the beginning of the movie as spoiled, selfish and unkind, with no love towards anyone. This description is also applied to Gaston as well.
I agree with your conclusion that Belle does not have Stockholm.
This is my favorite book/Disney movie ever.
I remember watching a video in high school English about Disney and this topic came up. I didn’t serge with the Stockholm Syndom then it now. Belle always verbally fought back or left when the beast was unkind. Also Belle know the the beast was originally human. The servents tell her that they all used to he human and she found a painting of him as a human.
Belle never goes out of her way to harm anyone in the villagers just want to mind her own business. The villagers are the ones talking being behind her back. Belle knows this and is little more than annoyed by it. I mean look what they did to her dad!
I think the point of the movie is to not judge a book be its cover. A beaut can be smart, a beast can learn to be kind, and normal people can do evil things. The movie play with expectations of Disney/fairytales characters though character designs and stereotypes.
Thank you for basically proving that Bell doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome or Beastliality. Beastliality is when a human being falls in love with an animal and given the fact that Beast is in fact a human prince under a terrible curse that turned him into a beast in the first place, we can conclude that Bell doesn't have Beastliality either.
thank you for finally clarifying this! I hope everyone thats ever claimed belle has stockholm syndrome watches this. I actually watched the movie yesterday as its def my fave classic disney movie
I'm glad I could clarify for you. It's really one of my favorite princess films. Thanks for watching!
Exactly! That's why I love this movie and tale so much! as a kid I never saw this as bestiality or Stockholm syndrome etc just two living souls that were misunderstood by society and rejected. That somehow encountered each other, Belle changed the beast with her bravery to defy him at ever turn in the beginning and love, patience only when he decided to change his attitude towards her and others.
The reason beast became nice to belle was no matter how evil and mean he was to her father and to her. Belle could have left him to die in the woods and escape but she brought him back and nutured him to health. Even while he was getting healed she could have left any time but she stayed to make sure he got well. Thats why he was nice to belle and fell in love with her over time.
I dont get why people claim she has S.S - it should be obvious that she stayed with the Beast on her own terms more than once, and the second time around was because of her sympathetic nature.
And even AFTER she saved him, it was clear that she was capable of standing up to him and taking charge of the relationship (arguing rightfully with him about how he frightened her, showing him how to read, eat, and be kind to animals, and even leading their iconic ballroom dance!).
Belle has no messed up attachment to the Beast. The Beast changed himself to make her happy because he was regretful of his actions, and it was only then that she started to truly fall in love with him as a _person_ and not because she's his "captive".
To be fair to the beast, he did let her go to save her father, presumably dashing his hopes of becoming human again, because he loved her truly
Saying that she could have Stockholm syndrome just makes it feel like the sacrifices that they made for each other non genuine. Belle sacrificed her freedom to save Adam(the Beast). And Adam sacrificed his life to save her from the wolves. Belle doesn’t have Stockholm Syndrome, she wasn’t kidnapped and there was no abusive behavior, Adam just wasn’t being a gentleman. And in his defense he did give her her own room and let her go where she pleased on the castle grounds. Except the West Wing being that that was where his room was and he wanted his privacy/space just like she did.
This video makes a lot of sense! I never saw it as Stockholm Syndrome. The first time I saw a comment about it in a video, I didn't even know what Stockholm Syndrome was at the time.
The guy who came up with the phrase Stockholm syndrome has said Beauty And The Beast does not fit Stockholm Syndrome for several reasons,1,she’s was not kidnapped and isn’t being held against her will,she chooses to stay there not once but TWICE,she doesn’t bond with Beast her first night there,they have separate bedrooms,she’s never 100% alone with him,his household staff is around,the only time her life is in danger in both the 1991 and 2017 films is when she encounters the wolves,Belle IS AWARE of her feelings and how Beast has changed,she never changes,he does,she melts his cold,unfeeling heart as they get to know and understand eachother in fact the guy who invented the phrase has said the only time in either version Belle could develop the Syndrome is with GASTON,because it’s the only time in the films that’s she’s locked up against her will.The abuse allegations don’t fit either because Beast is only mean to her for ONE night,they don’t go through a CONSTANT cycle of him verbally abusing her,hitting her,pretending he’s changed and then he goes back to physically or emotional harming her,NONE of that occurs,abusers are obsessed with their victims,they become controlling,they control how their victim talks,how they dress,what they eat,how they wear their hair,etc,beast never does any of that.
If there was stockholm syndrome than belle would have obeyed the beast sooner, there was time put into their relationship and I believe they truly love eachother
I will say this: in this story, belle offers to trade her father's place and the beast for the first time sees selflessness in belle. It shocks yet intrigues him. I get the arguments for stockholm syndrome, but these two go through trials and the beast does fix the errors in his actions with belle with him being a better man and letting her go for no reward. It shows how his selfish ways are disappearing.