@@gregb6469An old veteran who enlisted right after WWII and showed up for the German occupation told me it was the best time of his life. He had new shoes for the first time, he had steady money, and there was prostitution everywhere.
My father was a child in Gloucester, England during the war. There were US soldiers everywhere (lots of airbases etc), and he recalled being very impressed by their motorcycles with huge wide handlebars. He also recalled the times he would be given 'candy' by US soldiers, then asked, "Hey , kid, you got a sister?" 😃 @@tomhenry897
I miss the music you had for your videos Mark Felton Productions. Just my opinion. Thanks again though for another piece of historic treasure Dr Felton!
Hello Mr. Felton. My grandfather (on my father´s side) fought in the Great War since 1916 to 1918. He was a petty oficer when he was dismissed. Later on he fought against bolcheviques in his hometown near Munich (Rägensburg) with his handgun. It happends to be the same model you showed in this very video: a 7.65mm 7 round pistol. In 1924 he inmigrate to my Country in were he married, my father was born and, when he passed away, my father had his sidearm as a legacy. After my father passed away a few years ago, that same gun was my legacy and it´s still in my hands, This video made me feel a little bitter-sour because of all the memories, but at the end I can not help myself to feel a bit of pride of what my granfather had acomplished. I´m a long time subscriber to your chanell even though this is the first time I write something in the comment box. I wish you, your family and friends my best. Greetings from NE Patagonia, Argentina.
@@alaskanbas6507 I´m very proud that my past generations had such trust in me to keep that small but yet important piece of history, as you said. Cheers from Argentina.
@@OllyCrafter Hello. Yes, atually one of my friends is welsh decended. His name is Doryan Rowlands; even he was born here, he honors his welsh hritage. Around mid XIX century a vessel called "Mimosa" I´m guessing that´s the spanish name of her but IDK if she was named in gaelik or it was her original name. Most of the welsh colonies are located in the province of Chubut witch is 1 province south from were I´m living, (Rio Negro). There is a well known tourism trip to Península Valdés to spot wales this time of the year; however, the fun part of that trip is to spend an afternoon in one of the several "tea houses" in witch they host you with some welsh backery. I hope this short coment may have answered your question. I wish you well. Cheers from NE Patagonia.
My great grandfather fought in Germany in WW2 (U.S.). He left us a box of some WW2 German medals he “obtained” while over there and he also left us a 6.35mm post 1921 (the grip design with a stylized car) Ortgies pistol. I still shoot it to this day! It’s a really cool pistol!
My grandfather brought back so many souvenirs. He had this painting that looked really old but he got bored of it and used it as a dartboard then threw it away LOL.
That Eva Braun had a couple of suicide attempts in her past is new to me! Dr. Felton notes that Ortgies had a short run in the gun world, but these pistols were manufactured in great numbers between the wars. They were rather cleverly constructed, requiring no screws to disassemble. They were overbuilt, making them rather heavy for their intended vest-pocket use. The most common of the three was the 7.65 or 32 ACP. Many were brought back by American GIs as war souvenirs. I've handled one, noticing that the sight is not much good. This is a piece for close work. Those of a literary bent may recognize the pistol as the one Seymour Glass used in 'A Perfect Day For Bananafish' to commit suicide.
My father was there from May 1945. He got medals and different things for a few American cigarettes. He brought several lagers and other weapons back .
Mr. Grindstaff, the pistol was designed by Heinrich Ortgies. After making the pistol for several years, it was made by Deutsches Werke. (I have two accounts, one has Mr. Orgies dying and one has Mr. Ortgies just selling out his patent and retiring. Take your pick.) However, the two grip medallion designs were a crossed and stylized "H O" initials (Mr. Ortgies) or a stylized cat or Jaguar as the "D" symbol (Deutsche Werke). I presume you meant 'cat' and not 'car'.
@@jamesellsworth9673 They were very thankful it was our troops and not the brutal communists. Millions of Germans frantically fled west (creating miles upon miles of clogged road jams in many countries) to happily surrender to the western Allies. Giving up a few medals or a side pistol was a good deal for them considering the alternative.
Amazing research and video Dr. Felton. However I do agree with fellow fans in the comments. Your previous introduction theme song is an iconic moniker of your channel and we’d love to see its continued use, it’ll be greatly missed if you keep with the switch. However, I’ll continue be a longtime fan of your research nonetheless, and a thank you for your dedication.
Great video as always Mark! To counter some of the naysayers about you occasional variance in intro themes - I really enjoy when you mix up the intro music! The Requium you played during the video you did a few years ago about the pilot who crashed in the Sahara in WWII has become one of my all time favorites!
I've handled Ortgies pistols over the years both 7.65 (.32ACP) and 6.35 (.25ACP) variants, and the quality's excellent on both. It's no Wather PP or PPK but they're not bad either. They're fairly common here in the US, it's few gun shows where you don't see some for sale. So guys, if you want to get a pistol for your girlfriend just like Eva's get busy! They're out there! 🤩 (Poor Eva. A foolish woman but she really loved that SOB.)
Thank you Mark for another fascinating, informative video, I thoroughly enjoyed the history. I had never heard of Ortgies. Eva Braun's pistol had an amazing backstory.
It's always a great day when another of Dr. Felton's immaculately researched and wonderfully presented stories appears. Thanks for brightening my day!! As it happens, I have two of these little wonders, one 6.35 (25ACP) and the other 7.65 (32ACP). Great little shooters that won a lot of German shooting competitions in the period between the wars. (I and II).
Are they that accurate of a pistol? Or were yours modified? I know firearms pretty well but arent too familiar with these various smaller caliber european handguns. .32ACP and smaller pistols that arent on the list of exempt target shooting pistols arent able to be purchased unless you were grandfathered in the 90s so they arent too commonly seen here. I think most people buy .32ACP for their Zastava Skorpions here haha
@@discountfeces Well, they were accurate enough to win many competitions in the period just after WWI. They are a fun pistol, but the rudimentary sights limit how well I can do with it. I much prefer my Walther PP in .380, which is my carry pistol. That said, I still would like to finish the trio by finding an Ortgies in 9mm kurz (.380ACP). To anyone who does buy one - make sure you watch some UA-cam videos on disassembly and reassembly. It's highly unlikely you will figure it out on your own.
Big fan-- thank you so much. As a retired professional librarian and university library administrator it's a treat to luxuriate in your magnificent productions. Your diligent research is stunning and the production values of your videos are first class. This is just another, typical example of your work. I can't begin to visualize your organization or estimate how many people collaborate on these productions and in what roles. I like it.
Eva Braun has trained more often on the SS shooting range Obersalzberg. I can remember a photo, with a text that she was a good shooter. Hitlers secretary Junge tells that the secretaries asked often to take part in shooting training, but Hitler not allowed it. But in Berlin Hitler allowed the secretaries and Eva officially trained on weapons
I mean, how good of a shot could she really be if she couldn't even kill herself with a pistol at point blank range. although something tells me that her suicide attempts were more of a cry for attention than a legitimate attempt to take her own life. had she wanted to actually die then she would have put the gun to her head.
@@Jaymes400 United Mideford a british socialite, did the same. Known for her relationship with Hitler, so successfully that rumors of a wedding soon arose. Later Mitford attempted suicide in Munich .She survived badly injured.
@@Jaymes400 A lot of people who arent that familiar with firearms may not understand that a shot to the chest from a small caliber handgun isn't going to instantly kill them. Women also tend to think about the emotional distress of the person finding the body more than men so she may have not wanted to blow the back of her head out and send brains and skull everywhere. I read a terrible story where a young girl tried to commit suicide, she took a gun from her fathers collection, which was a .22LR rifle. I guess possibly because it was the firearm she was most familiar with. She shot herself in the head but it didn't instantly kill her. But she lost the use of her legs. She proceeded to drag herself to the house phone, which she could not reach, then dragged herself to the door, which she could not open before bleeding out. Someone not familiar with firearms is probably going to assume that a shot to the chest or head from any gun is going to be a quick death.
@@johnubieta8857 Practice means nothing if you don't care. I can think of a bunch of cops who I did not walking behind me, if they had a guy in their hand. Yet all of them were "trained" and had been on the job for decades. Several of these clown shows were WW2 Army vets.
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I enjoy every Mark Felton video, but I do like the previous theme music better.
Growing up in Indianapolis our neighbor was ETO vet. He brought back 15 pistols (I counted them) all displayed on the sitting room wall. He was 1LT in service so he had a bunch of stuff. This and the Sauer were first pistols I shot. 4th grade so 9 years old?
This honestly reminds me of how in RPGs you find legendary weapons and armor, but need to go to a high mage to desern what it is, who it belonged to and what power it has.
@@minorcek so, a guy makes a comparrison to RPG's and your gut reaction is " you play way too many games???" not even sure what your point is considering he made no mention of how many games he plays.
Wait, what happened to the intro music? I was on a bingewatch ready to vibe and the music completely ruined the moment :( Edit: Great video anyway, super informative!!
Since RIA both sponsored Forgotten Weapons and this channel, we wish for a crossover/collab video with Ian McCollum and Dr. Felton in discussing historical WW2 weapons.
This would be the crossover of the century 1000%. Let em talk historic guns with cuts to the two shooting said gun being discussed and watch the views roll in
This was a great video. I had no idea that Eva Braun had a gun. I hope that one day DR Felton will make a video about all of the suicide attempts by Eva Braun. I've read that there were 4 in total and other than the first attempt where she shot herself in the chest, and in this video detailing the use of sleeping pills, I haven't been able to get any details on the attempts.
My grand dad brought back a Lugar and other war trophies post war. My grandmother made him get rid of it as she was afraid my dad would end up playing with it. There are still smuggled items in the upstairs hall closet at the old house.
The world’s greatest WW2 artifact collector, Ken Rendell, had a ton of Eva Braun’s personal belongings, including signed Christmas Cards, party invitations, and toiletries. Too bad he lost it all in the Mt Everest of bad business deals, and his entire museum is in storage next to the Arc of the Covenant in WDC. His battle damaged rare flamethrower Sherman, went to a museum in Long Island, and several items found their way to a small museum in Providence.
There is few great collectors of memorabilia the rock star lemmmy out of motorhead rock group now dead .was serious collector of Nazi daggers SS and sa all great condition also other interesting pieces .I myself had great gun collection and daggers I was rich enough to buy what I wanted .I had no interest in Hitler memo or Eva Braun I was offered years ago letters that belonged Eva and high ranking officers pieces again guns and daggers which I bought in specialist auctions in Switzerland .invites to private sales .
Ava Braun may have had intimate ties to Hitler but, if her portrayal is somewhat accurate, the influence was very limited. More, the gun model is still relatively common and hers only slightly altered. To a collector, it would be more of a unique curiosity than treasure.
True!, but at the same time at least it gives regular people the chance to own an item of historical relevance. All too often Antiques go for the kind of money that is out of the budget of regular people and instread goes into the dusty private collections of wealthy people.
If it was that important to him he should not have given it to her....I suspect he was more pissed because she sold it cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What else would you do with such a thing? Were I her father I'd have said hold onto it till you get a good price. Alternatively her father could have donated it to a museum, but I don't know how much interest it would have attracted. Other than once belonging to Eva Braun it's an unremarkable object and no offence to it's former owner intended, other than being Hitler's partner Braun was an unremarkable woman.
Great little weapon. I actually have an older .25auto variant with the "HO" (Heinrich Ortgies) circular brass inserts in the grips. "Deutsche Werke Aktiengesellschaft Werk Erfurt" on the slide.
She tried to kill herself a second time... so she bought her a pistol? After his previous woman had "killed herself with his pistol?" And then an official said she was more likely to shoot herself with it? Ominous foreshadowing. And they both killed themselves eventually.
I once tried to kill myself with a valium overdose. I survived and shortly thereafter got a new prescription, from a doctor who knew that I had tried to kill myself and how. And that wasn't in the 1940s but in 2016.
@@francisdec1615its impossible to do that I tried it also i stacked like 12x10 tabs and took 6 times 20 pils , i wake up like nothing was happened only a bit more drowsy and unbalanced the days after. I didn’t even told my doctor cause I felt like a loser afterwards
As a Lithuanian who has studied extensively about WW2, I never knew about that until now. This war is somewhat personal to me because my great-grandfather served in the Red Army during it and one of his cousins died fighting with Germans in Latvia.
Personal story wise all US soldiers were not all on a monetary souvenir rampage. April 1945 in Bavaria an unannounced visit of a US soldier entered my grandmothers house through an unlocked door, smoking heavily and saying nothing he walked over to the large pictures hung on the main wall. Standing there in silence he marveled at the 1943 wedding photos of my grandmother and my grandfather was in the Luftwaffe at the time. Saying nothing he went to the next photo scanning it intensely for what seemed like an eternity to my Grandmother watching him from afar in the kitchen. The soldier departed saying nothing closing the door on his way out.
@@dee74raz I wouldn’t be so certain of that. There are a few recordings of Hitler’s private conversations and Eva’s voice might have been recorded. Hitler was surprisingly softly spoken when he wasn’t ranting and rabble rousing.
As Dorothy Parker, once said, "Men seldom make passes at girls who wear glasses " However, as I say, "A gal is always cuter, with a shooter." It was said that E.B., when she first met Hitler, had no ideas who he was. Bear in mind that this was just six years after he had let an armed uprising in the city. I think "Little Eva," was not as stupid as she was made out to be. Thank you for another interesting historical morsel Dr Felton.
My Dad first saw combat in Italy in 1943 and ended up in in Garmisch Parten Kirchen at war's end, but it took until November for his unit to return stateside. He remembered that if you were found to be in possession of any looted items, you lost your place on the going home list, so he reluctantly gave up a typewriter he had "acquired." It seems that a ton of stuff did make it through the duffel bag inspections, including Frau Hitler's popgun. Wonder how?
Some of it was local command policy, some of it was just what you were souveniring. And some of what GI's heard about souveniring wasn't true but was the rumor mill going into overdrive.
Enemy arms were allowed with official bringback paperwork, but plenty was sent through the mail or smuggled by person. There are countless accounts of GIs being told they will be searched, but it never ending up happening.
My dad was at Anzio in the 157th Regiment, 45th Inf Div from Feb to May '44 - he got hit quite badly May 25 during the breakout - broke both legs with shrapnel wounds - he was lucky to get out alive. His older brother was in the post-war occupation forces and brought back a good looking German woman. 😃
I have to say that "shooting yourself in the chest" doesn't sound very "half-hearted" to me, indeed it may have left Ms Braun with exactly half a heart.
1. I'm enjoying the new intro song, and I enjoy the previous songs as well 2. Once again great information on a topic rarely discussed. I've come to expect great things from you Mr Felton.
I had a vet bringback Ortgies 7,65 that had the Czech military markings on the back and a holster from Berlin, as it had been confiscated by the Germans for their use. I authenticated the markings from a book and the marks did not make for a premium price compared to any other.
Supply, demand, and reputation are what makes the value. If that Orgies didn't have Eva's name on it and a solid provenance it would have sold for a faction of the price it did. I haven't looked in a long time but back in the 1980s a plain Ortgies in like-new condition could be had for around $100. It's a good gun but it's no Luger, P-38, PP, PPK, or any of the more famous German guns and the price reflects that.
Dr. Felton, Dr. Felton, Dr. Felton! *WHAT* have you done?!? After years of watching your fascinating videos which followed the now iconic intro music, I had developed a Pavlovian Response: Every time I heard the tune, my brain would automatically start “salivating” - knowing that I was about to learn something new from your war stories! Alas, I’m now going to have reprogramme my apparently malleable mind!
Good afternoon Dr. Felton! To understand that Eva had to arm to protect herself should be understood, especially given her close relationship and then marriage to Hitler.
I'm only 20 seconds in and thinking WTF! Where's your music? I was already tapping my foot in anticipation before that ... whatever..... happened. Bring it back. Bring it back. It was the best signature tune on UA-cam!
We're thinking that with the notoriety and condition of this pistol it's way under priced. Obviously the market dictates the value. My husband and I have a nice collection of firearms and we were surprised the low value . We're have very little knowledge of historical firearms, however The possession and ownership is of historical value. Fantastic educational video. We had no idea this pistol even existed. God bless 🙏
What do we know about Hermann Goring's arms collection? How many guns attributed to him have survived and what are they? As a guy who's interested in hunting and how various famous hunters (like Theodor Roosevelt, J.B. Tito, Hemingway etc.) used to get their trophys and what guns did they use, I think it would be an interesting topic to look at.
The NRA Museum has some of Teddy Roosevelt's rifles and his stuffed badger(?). Neat exhibit as they moved his home office into the museum. Teddy liked quality guns. I can relate to that. A true American hero.
Excellent video as always Dr. However, the new theme music I’m not quite sure about lol,,,, not bad just different lol. Thank you for doing what you do! It’s like Xmas morning every time you put out a new one!
Pretty normal even for average people back then, maybe not so much for women, but otherwise. Then people here in Europe were fooled to believe in gun control.
For all the digs at Eva Braun by Hitler's cronies (Goebbels, Bormann and Ernst Hanfstangl all despised her, probably because Eva threatened their spot around the boss), Braun was known to be a reasonable athlete and also a good hand with a pistol. I knew that she had one, but it appeared in the bunker the two pistols at hand for the double suicide (if that is what occurred) both belonged to Hitler. If I'm right, the 7.65 was his regular one, but he kept a smaller one on hand at all times. A secret pocket was sewn into his uniforms and clothes (I take Robert Waite's "The Psychopathic God" as source material here). The recent series on the bodies found by the Soviets I highly recommend. A fascinating turn of events. I do believe Braun died along with Hitler, and their remains are scattered somewhere never to be found again. The theory she got out of Berlin, changed her name, etc., does not hold water for me. She could not have stayed out of sight forever, and her personality was such that she could not have stayed quiet.
Remaining in Germany after the war as a allied solider must have been a life experience.
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Yeah, Frauleins, and younger widowed Fraus, would throw themselves at American and British soldiers just to stave off starvation and homelessness.
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@@gregb6469An old veteran who enlisted right after WWII and showed up for the German occupation told me it was the best time of his life. He had new shoes for the first time, he had steady money, and there was prostitution everywhere.
My father was a child in Gloucester, England during the war. There were US soldiers everywhere (lots of airbases etc), and he recalled being very impressed by their motorcycles with huge wide handlebars. He also recalled the times he would be given 'candy' by US soldiers, then asked, "Hey , kid, you got a sister?" 😃 @@tomhenry897
I miss the music you had for your videos Mark Felton Productions. Just my opinion. Thanks again though for another piece of historic treasure Dr Felton!
He has it at the end
@@dee74raz Thanks. I heard it.
Please go back to the original theme song!!!!
Yes you are not Dr Mark Felton without your old theme song
I saw your comment from the little comment bar while the pre video ads, I lost my momentum for the new video 😂
@@Minnevan I'll embrace your mother first.
It's this one, clueless fool.
Yes the song that make us feel like we are going to be bombarded by the allies
Hello Mr. Felton. My grandfather (on my father´s side) fought in the Great War since 1916 to 1918. He was a petty oficer when he was dismissed. Later on he fought against bolcheviques in his hometown near Munich (Rägensburg) with his handgun. It happends to be the same model you showed in this very video: a 7.65mm 7 round pistol.
In 1924 he inmigrate to my Country in were he married, my father was born and, when he passed away, my father had his sidearm as a legacy. After my father passed away a few years ago, that same gun was my legacy and it´s still in my hands,
This video made me feel a little bitter-sour because of all the memories, but at the end I can not help myself to feel a bit of pride of what my granfather had acomplished.
I´m a long time subscriber to your chanell even though this is the first time I write something in the comment box.
I wish you, your family and friends my best. Greetings from NE Patagonia, Argentina.
Good on you for keeping the tradition of passing it down and as such keeping a small part of history, with its own unique story, alive!
@@alaskanbas6507 I´m very proud that my past generations had such trust in me to keep that small but yet important piece of history, as you said. Cheers from Argentina.
Curious, as you are from Patagonia, do you have any knowledge of Welsh?
@@OllyCrafter Hello. Yes, atually one of my friends is welsh decended. His name is Doryan Rowlands; even he was born here, he honors his welsh hritage.
Around mid XIX century a vessel called "Mimosa" I´m guessing that´s the spanish name of her but IDK if she was named in gaelik or it was her original name.
Most of the welsh colonies are located in the province of Chubut witch is 1 province south from were I´m living, (Rio Negro).
There is a well known tourism trip to Península Valdés to spot wales this time of the year; however, the fun part of that trip is to spend an afternoon in one of the several "tea houses" in witch they host you with some welsh backery.
I hope this short coment may have answered your question.
I wish you well. Cheers from NE Patagonia.
@@OllyCrafterWelsh?
Why did he change his intro music? I like the older one much better.
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This was his original theme song, not the one we all know. Watch his videos from 5 years ago, he used this theme several times.
Nothing says "I love you" like handing your suicidal lover a pistol.
She wasn't actually suicidal, just emotionally immature.
Aren't we all? @@PrezVeto
@@PrezVetolol, btch was both
She wasn't suicidal, she just tried to kill herself, twice. @@PrezVeto
@@RandomDudeOne do you have any idea how common suicidal gesturing is among women?
I swear Doc it's like Christmas morning seeing a new upload from you, appreciate your work Dr.Felton thank you.
Exactly lol.
I prefer the previous intro music.
The original theme was fantastic
My great grandfather fought in Germany in WW2 (U.S.). He left us a box of some WW2 German medals he “obtained” while over there and he also left us a 6.35mm post 1921 (the grip design with a stylized car) Ortgies pistol. I still shoot it to this day! It’s a really cool pistol!
My grandfather brought back so many souvenirs. He had this painting that looked really old but he got bored of it and used it as a dartboard then threw it away LOL.
Looted then!
That Eva Braun had a couple of suicide attempts in her past is new to me!
Dr. Felton notes that Ortgies had a short run in the gun world, but these pistols were manufactured in great numbers between the wars. They were rather cleverly constructed, requiring no screws to disassemble. They were overbuilt, making them rather heavy for their intended vest-pocket use.
The most common of the three was the 7.65 or 32 ACP. Many were brought back by American GIs as war souvenirs. I've handled one, noticing that the sight is not much good. This is a piece for close work. Those of a literary bent may recognize the pistol as the one Seymour Glass used in 'A Perfect Day For Bananafish' to commit suicide.
My father was there from May 1945. He got medals and different things for a few American cigarettes. He brought several lagers and other weapons back .
Mr. Grindstaff, the pistol was designed by Heinrich Ortgies. After making the pistol for several years, it was made by Deutsches Werke. (I have two accounts, one has Mr. Orgies dying and one has Mr. Ortgies just selling out his patent and retiring. Take your pick.)
However, the two grip medallion designs were a crossed and stylized "H O" initials (Mr. Ortgies) or a stylized cat or Jaguar as the "D" symbol (Deutsche Werke). I presume you meant 'cat' and not 'car'.
Dr Felton's posts always seem to evoke the feeling of a cosy WW2 military debriefing in all the best ways! It's like a slice of the past in real time😊
This one is NOT 'Cozy.' Our troops looting and souveniring is not a wonderful subject.
Cozy ww2 briefing? Just as cozy as wet socks on a freezing morning with a cup of fresh muddy pond water
We look back today on WWII and find it fascinating. But for the people at the time who lived through it, it was horrible, nothing "cozy" about it.
@@jamesellsworth9673 They were very thankful it was our troops and not the brutal communists. Millions of Germans frantically fled west (creating miles upon miles of clogged road jams in many countries) to happily surrender to the western Allies. Giving up a few medals or a side pistol was a good deal for them considering the alternative.
Miss the old intro song :(
"Please, never sell this gun, it's actually priceless." *Sells that gun*
Amazing how you dig up these stories. I’m always blown away. Thousand thanks.
Amazing research and video Dr. Felton. However I do agree with fellow fans in the comments. Your previous introduction theme song is an iconic moniker of your channel and we’d love to see its continued use, it’ll be greatly missed if you keep with the switch. However, I’ll continue be a longtime fan of your research nonetheless, and a thank you for your dedication.
4:10 "...in a lady's handbag". Nice Dr No reference.
Great story Professor Felton and who would have ever guess or even knew of what happen to Eva Braun's pistol. Thank you !
Great video as always Mark! To counter some of the naysayers about you occasional variance in intro themes - I really enjoy when you mix up the intro music! The Requium you played during the video you did a few years ago about the pilot who crashed in the Sahara in WWII has become one of my all time favorites!
I've handled Ortgies pistols over the years both 7.65 (.32ACP) and 6.35 (.25ACP) variants, and the quality's excellent on both. It's no Wather PP or PPK but they're not bad either. They're fairly common here in the US, it's few gun shows where you don't see some for sale.
So guys, if you want to get a pistol for your girlfriend just like Eva's get busy! They're out there! 🤩
(Poor Eva. A foolish woman but she really loved that SOB.)
eva braun was the original trad waifu. rip
Thank you Mark for another fascinating, informative video, I thoroughly enjoyed the history. I had never heard of Ortgies. Eva Braun's pistol had an amazing backstory.
Doubt she loved him. She loved power and lifestyle.
@@HRM.Hyou can tell
because of how problematic she was in the years leading up to the war.
Failing that, get a girlfriend for your pistol just like Eva... 🙃
TY- Dr. Felton. Work such as this keeps you at the top of the art.
It's always a great day when another of Dr. Felton's immaculately researched and wonderfully presented stories appears.
Thanks for brightening my day!!
As it happens, I have two of these little wonders, one 6.35 (25ACP) and the other 7.65 (32ACP). Great little shooters that won a lot of German shooting competitions in the period between the wars. (I and II).
Are they that accurate of a pistol? Or were yours modified? I know firearms pretty well but arent too familiar with these various smaller caliber european handguns. .32ACP and smaller pistols that arent on the list of exempt target shooting pistols arent able to be purchased unless you were grandfathered in the 90s so they arent too commonly seen here. I think most people buy .32ACP for their Zastava Skorpions here haha
@@discountfeces Well, they were accurate enough to win many competitions in the period just after WWI.
They are a fun pistol, but the rudimentary sights limit how well I can do with it. I much prefer my Walther PP in .380, which is my carry pistol.
That said, I still would like to finish the trio by finding an Ortgies in 9mm kurz (.380ACP).
To anyone who does buy one - make sure you watch some UA-cam videos on disassembly and reassembly. It's highly unlikely you will figure it out on your own.
Big fan-- thank you so much. As a retired professional librarian and university library administrator it's a treat to luxuriate in your magnificent productions. Your diligent research is stunning and the production values of your videos are first class. This is just another, typical example of your work. I can't begin to visualize your organization or estimate how many people collaborate on these productions and in what roles. I like it.
Eva Braun has trained more often on the SS shooting range Obersalzberg. I can remember a photo, with a text that she was a good shooter. Hitlers secretary Junge tells that the secretaries asked often to take part in shooting training, but Hitler not allowed it. But in Berlin Hitler allowed the secretaries and Eva officially trained on weapons
I don't dispute what you say, but it contradicts what supposed witnesses claim that she was clumsy with firearms, according to this video.
I mean, how good of a shot could she really be if she couldn't even kill herself with a pistol at point blank range. although something tells me that her suicide attempts were more of a cry for attention than a legitimate attempt to take her own life. had she wanted to actually die then she would have put the gun to her head.
@@Jaymes400 United Mideford a british socialite, did the same. Known for her relationship with Hitler, so successfully that rumors of a wedding soon arose. Later Mitford attempted suicide in Munich .She survived badly injured.
@@Jaymes400 A lot of people who arent that familiar with firearms may not understand that a shot to the chest from a small caliber handgun isn't going to instantly kill them. Women also tend to think about the emotional distress of the person finding the body more than men so she may have not wanted to blow the back of her head out and send brains and skull everywhere.
I read a terrible story where a young girl tried to commit suicide, she took a gun from her fathers collection, which was a .22LR rifle. I guess possibly because it was the firearm she was most familiar with. She shot herself in the head but it didn't instantly kill her. But she lost the use of her legs. She proceeded to drag herself to the house phone, which she could not reach, then dragged herself to the door, which she could not open before bleeding out.
Someone not familiar with firearms is probably going to assume that a shot to the chest or head from any gun is going to be a quick death.
@@johnubieta8857 Practice means nothing if you don't care. I can think of a bunch of cops who I did not walking behind me, if they had a guy in their hand. Yet all of them were "trained" and had been on the job for decades. Several of these clown shows were WW2 Army vets.
I enjoy every Mark Felton video, but I do like the previous theme music better.
Growing up in Indianapolis our neighbor was ETO vet. He brought back 15 pistols (I counted them) all displayed on the sitting room wall. He was 1LT in service so he had a bunch of stuff.
This and the Sauer were first pistols I shot. 4th grade so 9 years old?
😄What a fantastic combo: Mark Felton doing his stuff, and in the background Gun Jesus no doubt sitting nearby in Rock Island Auctions!
This honestly reminds me of how in RPGs you find legendary weapons and armor, but need to go to a high mage to desern what it is, who it belonged to and what power it has.
Which games have you do that? Most games label the items clear as day even if they’re looted from the bottom of a lake or ancient crypt
@@roddydykes7053 old Neverwinter Nights did this
You play way to many video games
@@minorcek so, a guy makes a comparrison to RPG's and your gut reaction is " you play way too many games???" not even sure what your point is considering he made no mention of how many games he plays.
Wait, what happened to the intro music? I was on a bingewatch ready to vibe and the music completely ruined the moment :(
Edit: Great video anyway, super informative!!
I have one of those pistols. Very accurate and well-made.
I like them too but here's a list of worthwhile pistol calibers: 22lr, 32acp, 9mm, 10mm, 44 magnum
a complete list except antiques and vaporware
@@edgarburlyman738 You forgot .380 ACP . It’s a nice round.
@@robertwilliamson922It is. But kind of redundant for his list because 9mm is basically .380 magnum.
@@MakerInMotion Yes ….. but .380 ACP is still a worthwhile pistol caliber. 👍🏼😃
I miss the old intro song. :(
It's at the end.
I like your original opening theme. 👍
Since RIA both sponsored Forgotten Weapons and this channel, we wish for a crossover/collab video with Ian McCollum and Dr. Felton in discussing historical WW2 weapons.
At the Fireplace Guy's house.
This would be the crossover of the century 1000%. Let em talk historic guns with cuts to the two shooting said gun being discussed and watch the views roll in
I am a collector of military weapons of WW2. I own 4 Ortgies pistols and they are amazingly accurate.
Ooo my ....Thank You so much Dr. Felton for a Great Discovery of Eva Pistol , I had no clue one or two was in existence....All the Best !!!
Thank you, Dr. Felton. I'm really enjoying these firearm videos.
Nearly 80 years and still so interesting
This needs to be in a museum, not in a private collection...
I agree - museums can't compete with wealthy collectors.
Assuming it was really Eva Braun’s pistol.
This was a great video. I had no idea that Eva Braun had a gun. I hope that one day DR Felton will make a video about all of the suicide attempts by Eva Braun. I've read that there were 4 in total and other than the first attempt where she shot herself in the chest, and in this video detailing the use of sleeping pills, I haven't been able to get any details on the attempts.
Well, she was a bad shot, after all. Needed more practice, I guess.
My grand dad brought back a Lugar and other war trophies post war. My grandmother made him get rid of it as she was afraid my dad would end up playing with it. There are still smuggled items in the upstairs hall closet at the old house.
Please go back to the original soundtrack. It was a stamp of authenticity
That's this one.
Try to get a clue, maybe?
Dr. Felton, I absolutely love your work, but I must say, after watching yesterday's and today's video, I miss the old intro music...
I already miss the old song, bring it back.
The world’s greatest WW2 artifact collector, Ken Rendell, had a ton of Eva Braun’s personal belongings, including signed Christmas Cards, party invitations, and toiletries. Too bad he lost it all in the Mt Everest of bad business deals, and his entire museum is in storage next to the Arc of the Covenant in WDC. His battle damaged rare flamethrower Sherman, went to a museum in Long Island, and several items found their way to a small museum in Providence.
There is few great collectors of memorabilia the rock star lemmmy out of motorhead rock group now dead .was serious collector of Nazi daggers SS and sa all great condition also other interesting pieces .I myself had great gun collection and daggers I was rich enough to buy what I wanted .I had no interest in Hitler memo or Eva Braun I was offered years ago letters that belonged Eva and high ranking officers pieces again guns and daggers which I bought in specialist auctions in Switzerland .invites to private sales .
I'm glad the intro song has been changed.
Sometimes, I am shocked at how very little items (of historical value) sell for at auction. I would've figured this to hit close to $100k.
Ava Braun may have had intimate ties to Hitler but, if her portrayal is somewhat accurate, the influence was very limited. More, the gun model is still relatively common and hers only slightly altered. To a collector, it would be more of a unique curiosity than treasure.
True!, but at the same time at least it gives regular people the chance to own an item of historical relevance. All too often Antiques go for the kind of money that is out of the budget of regular people and instread goes into the dusty private collections of wealthy people.
Best History Channel EVER!!! Thank you Doctor Felton
I feel for the father that gave such a piece of history to his daughter and then she went on to sell it 😢 I wonder if he kept her in his Will.
Hey man hard time are hard, I just hope it wasn’t hard because of drugs or something
If it was that important to him he should not have given it to her....I suspect he was more pissed because she sold it cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What else would you do with such a thing? Were I her father I'd have said hold onto it till you get a good price. Alternatively her father could have donated it to a museum, but I don't know how much interest it would have attracted. Other than once belonging to Eva Braun it's an unremarkable object and no offence to it's former owner intended, other than being Hitler's partner Braun was an unremarkable woman.
I sold a couple of my dad's guns thirty years ago that had the least sentimental value. Grandkids gotta eat.
@@morningstar9233 She's best known as "that lady who off'd herself with Hitler".
wow, Mark you are on another level! above all others! these topics (info) the last few weeks is amazing! Gracias
Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.
Great little weapon. I actually have an older .25auto variant with the "HO" (Heinrich Ortgies) circular brass inserts in the grips. "Deutsche Werke Aktiengesellschaft Werk Erfurt" on the slide.
She tried to kill herself a second time... so she bought her a pistol? After his previous woman had "killed herself with his pistol?" And then an official said she was more likely to shoot herself with it? Ominous foreshadowing. And they both killed themselves eventually.
I once tried to kill myself with a valium overdose. I survived and shortly thereafter got a new prescription, from a doctor who knew that I had tried to kill myself and how. And that wasn't in the 1940s but in 2016.
As I am informed. Adolf shot Eva and then shot himself. So technically she didn’t shoot her self.
@@francisdec1615its impossible to do that I tried it also i stacked like 12x10 tabs and took 6 times 20 pils , i wake up like nothing was happened only a bit more drowsy and unbalanced the days after. I didn’t even told my doctor cause I felt like a loser afterwards
I hope both of you are having nice lives now
Enjoying your format and stories for a few years now. Grats on the upcoming 2 million
As a Lithuanian who has studied extensively about WW2, I never knew about that until now.
This war is somewhat personal to me because my great-grandfather served in the Red Army during it and one of his cousins died fighting with Germans in Latvia.
When were Lithuanians drafted in the Soviet army during the Second World War? 🧐
@@dee74raz Lithuanians were drafted in 1944 and 1945 because in these years soviets captured the territory of modern-day Lithuania.
@@normantas_bataitis I was wondering because I read that many Lithuanians were deported to Siberia by the Soviets
@@dee74raz Lithuanians were drafted forcibly, no one came as a volunteer to the army.
Some Lithuanians took to the forests and fought the soviets for decades. They are called forest brother and were brutally delt with by nkvd and kgb.
The intro music caught me off guard....
I WANT THE OLD INTRO MUSIC BACK.
Are you unable to articulate like a grown Person?
Dr Felton, you must go back to the old theme song.
Personal story wise all US soldiers were not all on a monetary souvenir rampage.
April 1945 in Bavaria an unannounced visit of a US soldier entered my grandmothers house through an unlocked door, smoking heavily and saying nothing he walked over to the large pictures hung on the main wall. Standing there in silence he marveled at the 1943 wedding photos of my grandmother and my grandfather was in the Luftwaffe at the time. Saying nothing he went to the next photo scanning it intensely for what seemed like an eternity to my Grandmother watching him from afar in the kitchen.
The soldier departed saying nothing closing the door on his way out.
Enjoying and following your work.
Must say that I prefer the original soundtrack.
All the best
Is there documented audio of her voice? or is it forever a mystery?
As far as we know, there was none and I doubt there will be
@@dee74raz
I wouldn’t be so certain of that. There are a few recordings of Hitler’s private conversations and Eva’s voice might have been recorded. Hitler was surprisingly softly spoken when he wasn’t ranting and rabble rousing.
@@dee74raz that is what I figured. absolutely incredible how there is zero audio of her voice. The REICH made sure of it.
@@dee74raz not even Dr. Felton can crack this mystery
You know how her boyfriend sounded. Now imagine that in shrieking soul stopping soprano. A real catch
Once again you find an amazing story to tell about the war. You are a history stud my man.
I've not heard about this before, I found it really interesting, thank you for posting
Hitler kept Eva in the Bergoff in order to have a discreet location to hide the salami.
I am surprised that her gun did not sell for much more. What is the expected sale price for the current auction?
I figure it will do 5 figures. Lotta rich folks willing to dole out obscene amounts of money for a historically significant piece as this.
As Dorothy Parker, once said,
"Men seldom make passes at girls who wear glasses "
However, as I say,
"A gal is always cuter, with a shooter."
It was said that E.B., when she first met Hitler, had no ideas who he was.
Bear in mind that this was just six years after he had let an armed uprising in the city.
I think "Little Eva," was not as stupid as she was made out to be.
Thank you for another interesting historical morsel Dr Felton.
My Dad first saw combat in Italy in 1943 and ended up in in Garmisch Parten Kirchen at war's end, but it took until November for his unit to return stateside. He remembered that if you were found to be in possession of any looted items, you lost your place on the going home list, so he reluctantly gave up a typewriter he had "acquired." It seems that a ton of stuff did make it through the duffel bag inspections, including Frau Hitler's popgun. Wonder how?
Different rules for officers
Some of it was local command policy, some of it was just what you were souveniring. And some of what GI's heard about souveniring wasn't true but was the rumor mill going into overdrive.
Who searched the searchers
Enemy arms were allowed with official bringback paperwork, but plenty was sent through the mail or smuggled by person. There are countless accounts of GIs being told they will be searched, but it never ending up happening.
My dad was at Anzio in the 157th Regiment, 45th Inf Div from Feb to May '44 - he got hit quite badly May 25 during the breakout - broke both legs with shrapnel wounds - he was lucky to get out alive. His older brother was in the post-war occupation forces and brought back a good looking German woman. 😃
I have to say that "shooting yourself in the chest" doesn't sound very "half-hearted" to me, indeed it may have left Ms Braun with exactly half a heart.
I can't get used to the new soundtracks Professor, shall you reconsider using the OG one we'd be pleased sir.
I love the older music theme please bring it back
I can't handle the musical change but I will try.
1. I'm enjoying the new intro song, and I enjoy the previous songs as well
2. Once again great information on a topic rarely discussed. I've come to expect great things from you Mr Felton.
Another great post. Mark, if you ever want to do a crossover with Ian at Forgotten Weapons, this is a good candidate as he often covers RIA pieces.
Nice ad for Rock Island Arsenal
Not gonna lie Mark, I miss the other intro theme! Its iconic at this point =P
Looting Germany after the war as an allied soldier must have been a life experience.
I had a vet bringback Ortgies 7,65 that had the Czech military markings on the back and a holster from Berlin, as it had been confiscated by the Germans for their use. I authenticated the markings from a book and the marks did not make for a premium price compared to any other.
Supply, demand, and reputation are what makes the value. If that Orgies didn't have Eva's name on it and a solid provenance it would have sold for a faction of the price it did. I haven't looked in a long time but back in the 1980s a plain Ortgies in like-new condition could be had for around $100.
It's a good gun but it's no Luger, P-38, PP, PPK, or any of the more famous German guns and the price reflects that.
Dr. Felton, Dr. Felton, Dr. Felton!
*WHAT* have you done?!?
After years of watching your fascinating videos which followed the now iconic intro music, I had developed a Pavlovian Response: Every time I heard the tune, my brain would automatically start “salivating” - knowing that I was about to learn something new from your war stories!
Alas, I’m now going to have reprogramme my apparently malleable mind!
Good afternoon Dr. Felton! To understand that Eva had to arm to protect herself should be understood, especially given her close relationship and then marriage to Hitler.
Just one of the “perks” of being the fruers play thing
that's understandable
But how many people know about her anyway? Maybe some Allied secret services know of a Hitler's ditzy, blonde girlfriend, but by name? I doubt it.
Felton said this in the video????
Mark Felton is the King of WWII ephemera.
I'm only 20 seconds in and thinking WTF! Where's your music? I was already tapping my foot in anticipation before that ... whatever..... happened. Bring it back. Bring it back. It was the best signature tune on UA-cam!
How about: get a life?
@@elchapito4580 What a rude man/woman you are. Get a life.
We're thinking that with the notoriety and condition of this pistol it's way under priced. Obviously the market dictates the value.
My husband and I have a nice collection of firearms and we were surprised the low value .
We're have very little knowledge of historical firearms, however The possession and ownership is of historical value.
Fantastic educational video. We had no idea this pistol even existed.
God bless 🙏
What do we know about Hermann Goring's arms collection? How many guns attributed to him have survived and what are they? As a guy who's interested in hunting and how various famous hunters (like Theodor Roosevelt, J.B. Tito, Hemingway etc.) used to get their trophys and what guns did they use, I think it would be an interesting topic to look at.
The NRA Museum has some of Teddy Roosevelt's rifles and his stuffed badger(?). Neat exhibit as they moved his home office into the museum. Teddy liked quality guns. I can relate to that. A true American hero.
New music is ok but old one was just perfect!
That's why it's back.
Incredible content Mark -- But I prefer the original opening musical score, not a fan of this new one (a bystander's feedback)
Not new, but whatever.
Also: who the hell cares, get a life.
I agree, but at least he has it at the end
Excellent video as always Dr. However, the new theme music I’m not quite sure about lol,,,, not bad just different lol. Thank you for doing what you do! It’s like Xmas morning every time you put out a new one!
Nothing stays secret for dr. Mark Felton. ;-)
I have one of those guns, brought back to Canada by a Canadian vet, German officer surrendered to him. Includes original holster.
You should do a video on Unity Mitford
Liked the NEW introduction music! Interesting story Dr. Felton.
If you ever would be interested, could you do a video on the very close to WWII Louisiana Maneuvers?
Taking a half hearted suicide attempt by shooting herself in the chest doesn’t sound like a half hearted attempt
I never even knew that Eva Braun ever had a gun
Nor did I
Pretty normal even for average people back then, maybe not so much for women, but otherwise. Then people here in Europe were fooled to believe in gun control.
Happy to hear some different music.
I prefer the original theme music.
Good!
You like this one, then.
Another fascinating historical addition to Mr Feltons highly acclaimed series...CRACKING!
Maybe by giving Eva a pistol, he was hoping that she would use it on herself? 😮
Eweww. Speak no ill of the dead.
Such a sudden burst of good judgment would've been out-of-character for Hitler.
@@PrezVeto 😆
For all the digs at Eva Braun by Hitler's cronies (Goebbels, Bormann and Ernst Hanfstangl all despised her, probably because Eva threatened their spot around the boss), Braun was known to be a reasonable athlete and also a good hand with a pistol. I knew that she had one, but it appeared in the bunker the two pistols at hand for the double suicide (if that is what occurred) both belonged to Hitler. If I'm right, the 7.65 was his regular one, but he kept a smaller one on hand at all times. A secret pocket was sewn into his uniforms and clothes (I take Robert Waite's "The Psychopathic God" as source material here).
The recent series on the bodies found by the Soviets I highly recommend. A fascinating turn of events. I do believe Braun died along with Hitler, and their remains are scattered somewhere never to be found again. The theory she got out of Berlin, changed her name, etc., does not hold water for me. She could not have stayed out of sight forever, and her personality was such that she could not have stayed quiet.
Miss the old theme
He has it at the end
@@dee74raz true 🙂
🤡🤡🤡🤡
Your war productions are always very interesting to view
Hey man…the theme music…wassup? 😂⚡️🔥
"Well well Miss Braun? Where do you keep your gun in this outfit?"