The opposition are exploiting him obviously, but all the tactical tweaks from Slot in the world wont do anything if a player cant be arsed to put in the effort. Slot said after his first game in charge that for your tactics to have any meaningfull effect you need to win your duels. Trent won 0 duels in 80 mins. Which is strange because up untill the Fulham game he did good on the defensive side. Slot would probably have hooked him earlier if Bradley was ready to do more minutes.
I thought I’d gone back in time to the start of the 22/23 season, as this was the Trent we saw in the first half of that season. Looked like he couldn’t be arsed.
@@tommyhoang2344 It's different now because he doesn't care. He will happily throw our season under the bus if it means he is kept injury free for his Madrid contract.
Trent has been dribbled past 30 times this season. Thats more than any other RIGHT BACK in the top 5 leagues in europe!!!Trent has made 9 assists in his last 57 games. People are being sentimental and holding onto his highlights in their minds. Rather have a solid defence with Bradley who's a much better defender than Trent, than wait 4-5 games for Trent to make one hollywood assist, while every team attacks us on on Trents side (which they all have been targetting for the last 2 years).
he is also being asked to step into midfield, he is also providing assists like a champion. Maybe we need to ask who is taking him to do this and why? I bet the same fans would cry if his assists suddenly dried up even if his defending became solid (Which it wont obvs)
@@jameshansing5396 His assists was at its highest prior to the pandemic before all this midfield talk had started. Most of his assists came from crosses from wide. His numbers once drifting into Midfield is far less than when he has played wide. **One needs to look at the origin of stepping into midfield. It started because Southgate did not rate trent as a RB cos of his poor defending. He convinced Trent that he should play midfield to get into the England lineup. That is when trent started drifting into the midfield and leaving a huge hole at the back. It was not Klopp asking him to do that, it was more Klopp having to accommodate Trent. Klopp allowed trent to do as he wished. Trent has never had discipline.
@@jameshansing5396 Trents best assist rate was prepandemic when he was playing out wide and crossing.. One needs to look at the origin of all this midfield talk.. Gareth southgate did not want to play Trent as he found him defensively weaker than other Right backs.He convinced Trent that if he wanted to get into the England team and play, he weould need to play in Midfield. That is when Trent started drifting into midfield. So its not that Klopp had asked him to do that. I feel klopp had never had any discipline with Trent and just let him do whatever he wanted.. Slot wants him more wide (that is why he looks improved defensively compared to being completely absent.) but still not good enough.
The only position for trent does not exist in most of the modern game anymore. And that is Right Midfield in a 4-4-2 with a RB behind him (David Beckham position). That way he can make use of his talent of crossing. He can't play in the middle as he don't get crossing opportunities, and he can't play RB as he can't defend.
@@donyoung333 No Salah plays as an inside forward/winger.. That is not the position i'm refering to.. The position is only available in a 4-4-2 not 4-3-3
@@themaharanisclosetFootball isn’t played that way anymore, just like no teams play with a true “10” anymore. The game is just different players have to adapt.
Everyone has been getting on Robbo lately for mistakes and all that but he at least gives everything out there. I’d rather that then someone who doesn’t seem to give a shit.
Emotionally, it is easy to agree with you. But logically you are wrong. If a player is out of his depth, as Robbo patently is now, then no matter how much he tries he will get found out time and again - which is exactly what is happening 0 he is costing us goals, pens or goal scoring opps in every bloody game, If you have a player like Trent, then there is clearly at leats a chance of sorting him out and having a player who is more than able to thrive at that level.
Getting an easier ride being a local lad, if it was Kostas Tsimikas how many people would be screaming to offload him before January's out. Robbo was flat in the second half, Kostas should have come on as a sub, better conversion rate from his corners.
@@geekylove3603 OK to be fair it is a bit of a double edged sword, particularly because it was Man United. There's also the side of it that goes how can a local lad of all people not be well up for it against United of all opponents.
I'm going to put recent form to one side and address the elephant in the room. Trent is vice captain and has expressed his desire to be club captain. Looking at his attitude on the field, and his attitude when substituted, he shows that he's not captain material. I believe it would be a huge mistake to give him the added responsibility of club captain when he's not once shown that he possesses the qualities required for the role.
Yeh it’s strange to me that more people aren’t pointing this out. Trent shouldn’t be vice captain never mind captain and if this is a condition of his staying then he has to go.
Very valid point, Trent has had games like this where his head goes and becomes lazy and wasteful. Good captain can have bad games but they're never lazy.
Good shit boys! @Josh - I disagree about "on the ball" being affected. Focus can impact ball playing ability as can be seen in, say the Spurs game, when we were multiple goals up. Passing gets sloppy when focus drops and focus drops for many reasons, but not being 100% committed or focuded is one of the reasons. I also think Trent tends to pass the wide attacker on, as seen in the highlighted Fulham phase of play and United's 2nd. For United's 2nd, Ibou heads a long ball, and Trent casually strolls inside, not making a run or trying to win the 2nd ball, but just passing the responsibility on to Ibou.
I honestly just think he's got a kind of personality that doesn't react well to a home crowd getting on his back. It might give some players a kick up the arse to try harder getting shouted at but I think he just shuts down when he hears it. You could see it on his face during the game that he was listening to the abuse & didn't know how to handle it. When some people get a lot of stick it makes them not want to try harder. That kind of personality worries me because it's not going to stop until he comes out & clears up the contract situation one way or another.
Robertson also a massive problem this season. Way off the pace and think we have seen the best of him. So many goals against us he has been involved in. New LB and RB must be up there with being priority signings for when we ever do decided to spend money in the year 2029
These stupid owners are just content with getting top 4, they don't care if we win trophies. They have refused to make any major investments in the squad for years now. Look at how we collapsed last season
It's a shame it's kinda taken the contract/real madrid situation to highlight this lack of defensive running back and application to some fans.. Being extremely lazy tracking and not sprinting back isn't a new thing, he's been this way for years now...
Trent is a luxury player, you gotta find a way to accommodate him in the team to get the best out of him, when it works its great, when it doesnt it can be catastrophic, Liverpool might be better off switching to a more traditional right-back going forward like Bradley...also what I noticed against United is I feel like we missed Szobo way too much, we dont really have any replacement for him, no alternative, we need somebody in the midfield who will give us that energy, ground coverage, aggression, physicality, somebody like Baleba from Brighton, would say a player like that is more urgent than a player like Zubimendi, we got plenty of players who are really good on the ball
The main problem with Trent's shocking performance was he didn't look interested in playing, he couldn't pass and just walked when it came to defending. If Trent isn't signing on then just sell him this month
26:18 Trent HAS been playing like that, but you chose not to see it, mesmerized by an odd pass. And fans have been screaming for Bradley to start for a year! I have seen Trent sprint back twice this season and thought there were positive signs.. but he did that reversed psychology trick on Slot.. "do keep telling me to defend and hold me accountable!" (not) and proceeded to watch his team mates strain their sinews instead.. Sell him now.. end of.
9:01 He only wants play the piano and hates carrying it. If it was up to him, he’d never have to carry it, but his quickest route into Liverpool’s starting XI happened to be playing as a right-back, a defender. It makes him gesture defend i.e he is pretending to carry the piano, putting his hand on it and everything, but really not lifting it, hoping it doesn’t completely fall apart with the help of others around him. If nothing bad happens and we regain possession, great, he can start playing as his mind’s already been on what he’s gonna play next all throughout the carrying bit anyway. It’s just the way he’s wired and he aint gonna change, not now as a 26 y/o. He’s the anti-Macherano, anti-Gattuso. Artist.
It's nice saying we are top of both leagues. It is a reason for confidence, but, we shouldn't get carried away with champions league because it's basically the same as being top of your group in the group stage of the champions League in previous years. It will go to knockout football in the next round and then it's a lottery same as old champions league format.
Trents poor defending hasn't really been highlighted this season Do we think it's down to Szoboszlai having lungs like recycling bins and Konate being one of the best CB's in the world?
At this point, one has to wonder if it makes sense to sell him to Madrid now, if indeed there is an offer. Bradley is a quality right-back. Yes, he can't do something TAA can do, but we don't have to constantly worry about covering up for him either. We do need a quality backup since Bradley hasn't been super durable. There has to be a decent right back available. Reinvest whatever you can get for Trent, add something if necessary and get another solid option. It does not need to be a superstar. Honestly, I feel Trent has not contributed that much to the offense this season. Yes, he can make highlight reel passes, but sometimes he gets too much credit for that. Quansah made a beautiful pass to Trent recently and it was barely mentioned while the next pass Trent made to Salah was praised. The tough part is that Robertson has been subpar this year, so we have to worry about both fullback positions. That foul Robertson made unnecessarily holding on to the guy with one minute left in added time was shockingly dumb. There is no danger at all and you are giving up a free kick in a dangerous position. I can't understand how an experienced player can make a mistake like that.
Chris nailed it. Trents runs like he doesn't give shit. And he's a real lethargic player. Not just against United. He's always been like this and is being found out more and more. Lazy pre Madonna
@ true, could drop the DM in between and push up the fullbacks. Hoping if Ibou is back and builds fitness it’ll tighten things up again! Having Bradley fit is good too to put some pressure/cover on RB if Trent starts going lazy again!
Trent is getting criticised everywhere not only from our fanbase. This is when we have to do our due diligence and support him. People can say he didnt care on sunday relating to madrid etc... I disagree, we've seen him have performances like this b4. It was 90% based performance, 10% contract talks. You have to consider also that we went a whole week without playing a game and you know that it disrupts our rhythm, especially when you look at what happens after the international breaks. Things may get worse for him from this point on, this is when the contract talks could TRULY 90% affect his performance.
Opposing teams are gonna focus on that side of our defense again. Trent needs to show, regardless of what happens in the summer, that he is fighting for the shirt in every game. You’re allowed a bad game but lack of effort is not.
Bit harsh giving Trent stick when we were a man down? The first example isnt really fair at all for the reasons you eventually went into. What is also KIND of unfair is what we are asking Trent to do again by the looks of it which is step into midfield, then act all shocked when he's not @ RB? It's f*cking silly. Works in some games, not all.
4:02 They didn't 'score from this' the ticker says 2-1 Fulham and the game ended 2-2. Trent is asked to play a role that leaves space behind him so opponents will always target this side with greater rescources. Add Salah doing less and less backtracking and we are being exposed. We can't afford an expansive RB with dreams of winning the Balon D'or. We need a young, energetic RB who works his socks off, relishes a challenge, and gets the crowd up with his enthusiasm. Anyone remember Mbappe getting cleared out at Anfield a few weeks back?
Made up paul isnt on the one. Coz if he was he would be pulling every excuse out of his arse possible. And disagreeing with the blatant obvious . Lovely too see the cold hard truth on the channel
You should analyse Curtis then, as his performance was utterly pathetic. Was a bystander in midfield, and worse of all, bullied at every opportunity by their mids
@@jonofitz11also, nobody currently wondering whether or not Curtis is committed. It’s not about mistakes. We will support the players despite mistakes. But we won’t condone apathy
The plan wouldn't have been thinking they're going to get serious chances, at the top, but that pinning him back limits his ability to influence the game offensively. The fact he didn't have the effort needed did provide them with chances.
I think what these boys are trying to say is Ruben Amorim is the best young manager in world football so why didn't Liverpool appoint him in the summer?
Trent would have been a world class RB if he (and Klopp) had worked on his defending. Instead, Klopp basically indulged him (with the "inverted right back" nonsense), where the other defenders then had to cover him.
I think Arne screwed up in this game, (maybe for the first time this season?) not bringing Endo on for the last 20 minutes. Not only Trent’s weakness, but also Konate was goosed for that last 20. Should have tightened the hatches at 2-1.
I didn’t see enough aggression and fitness from konate, robbo was the same version we’ve seen all season that’s on the downturn. Curtis didn’t make enough runs to create space show up in the box or cover our right hand size. Diaz just lacked that strikers instinct of where to be to break down a low block of 5 to 7 bodies and salah and Dian don’t cut in to shoot create chances or do that back pass cross nearly enough to create enough game winning chances. So much of what we’ve gotten used to so we played like we were scared to lose. And at the end of the day that was horrendous football from Trent
Question is can you trust him going forward, upcoming in the league we have two tough away games Forest/Brentford, if he were to perform like that again, we'd be in trouble ....
It’s his body language that infuriated me and it’s not the first time…robbo and Bradley are always bang up for it even if they get done - hendo kept him on it now he’s gone
i appreciate Chris' theory that the last days of your final notice is impossible to check in mentally. i can relate! I'm just wondering though, Being a former chef (Chris), handing in your notice to the employer is one thing. I find it hard to see a Liverpoolfan giving any less in a game vs man u because of this. With all due respect to chris ofcourse, i doubt he grew up as a fan of the resturant he worked at haha I personally think it is TAA and his style. He is nonchalant in both good and bad, making him look sometimes as a maestro a la Pirlo, and sometimes like Mario Balotelli who tries gegenpressing. i'm sure it's not exclusive to either one, and could be a mixture. i just don't think it neccasarily means he is ready for Patatas bravas in spain yet, but his flaw as a footballer, more spesifically as a defender. VVD can get away with it because he is the perfect package of a defender and is able to correct his mistake 97% time, while TAA doesn't have the defensive capebilities as His captain. TAA is brilliant for the attacking, medium at best as a pure defender.
I accept Trent’s had a bad game v United & even Fulham, but he’s not solely to blame for the weaknesses down our right. In all the examples shown here, where the hell is his midfield cover? He’s left stranded. During the game I was giving him stick for being lazy/ not arsed, & he deserves that stick. But solving the problem means tightening up the midfield cover. Another point with Trent, I don’t see him as a Captain. You never see him shouting or having a go at / giddying up his teammates, where’s the leadership skills? Maybe I’m missing something, but I just don’t see it.
Lads, Trent is a midfielder playing as a full back with a winger in front of him, Mo Salah, who, by design does not track back. What do you expect ? Utd, Fulham and everyone else is going to load up on his side. There was a Utd attack in the final stages of the game where they had the ball on their right, Liverpool half, and 3 big Utd players were playing on top of him awaiting the cross. Slot has to find a way of protecting him otherwise .....
it's a Coutinho situation now. there's a player in the XI running less than anyone else & producing moments of magic to make up for it. you can improve the team by getting rid & having a player who carries the piano. Bradley can play there, Gomez can. sign Kvara & Hato, play Bradley, sell Trent
I get what Chris is saying handing in your notice and not committing in the last week or so. But at the same time, you don't have the chance of lifting the biggest trophies in the world after a season at Morrisons.
Do you think there is something in my theory that Amorim targeted TAA, because he is under a stressfull situation and amorim's united could gain success by dampening the crowds support for him? Win a few duels fast against a person under tremendous pressure. i'm not reffering to it being a tactical pitch decision, but more a mental move. choose the weak one in the herd.
I'm irritated by Trent's complacency/jogging etc. But equally, he's human, he's under fire by his own fans, not playing well by his own standards, and I'm sure Arne is on his case.
i think Slot has to change his tactic! we praised him at the start for moulding the team into a more secure team…..after 45 mn i could see that trent and jones couldn’t kick a football….there is 100 tweaks he could have done …ask the team to drop back and let united in control hit them on the transitions! tell macca to play in the right inside !salah has to defend a bit more in this situation…so many things could have been done !!!the changes happened too late and we brought the wrong player on 🤯🤯🤯not happy with trent attitude…bench next game
So it was obvious what was happening in the first 1/2 with their tactics and Trents form so during that time and most of the second 1/2 why didn't the manager or backroom staff (of which there are many and Slot has said how great they are) do bugger all to address it? If your not a Liverpool fan so could say he was left out to dry.
Madrid aren’t gonna pay him 300k a week if plays like that for rest of the season, so he better get his arse in gear or he’s gonna be looking for a team next year
Trent is a special player. But lacking effort in a man united match is unacceptable, especially being a scouser. Can u even imagine if gerrard played like that against united??? Gerrard was always charging in to slide tackles, starting fights, a true scouser, what is wrong with trent? How can u act like ur bigger than ur club when ur not even the top player in the team?
Listen, Trent was awful but if a team focus all their play down one side because that’s where their good players are then any goals are likely to come down that side. It was robbo first and now Trent, I’m just saying that you shouldn’t expect for everything to be sorted if we buy two new full backs, we will still concede.
Trent actually made us lose 2 champions league agains madrid.. literally. all goals always came from his side.. and now he made Dalton look like vinicious jr.. the lad does no have a defender mentality.. he just wants to go forward.
U cant have that issue down ure right side when we play forest next league game away with their pace in attack, and konate getting constantly dragged wide into the right channel we need to be compact, its a big decision for the manager in terms of line up and in game if this right side continues to cause us these defensive issues.
On the Martinez goal- it has nothing to do with Grav. TRENT GAVE THE BALL AWAY. If you turn the ball over in the attacking third as a defender, your number one priority and obligation to your teammates is to sprint back like your fucking life depends on it. The jogging and apathetic attitude while playing sooo shitty (in this match of all occasions) is appalling.
I feel sorry for slot in all this instead of him getting praise for his amazing start as boss it’s all about contracts instead of his & liverpools amazing start if it was arsenal in tv media Arteta would be on a thrown & every single arsenal player would be world class & heroes
Needs taken away from the leadership group and stripped of the vice captaincy too... Shouldn't of been given it in the 1st place.. he's a fantastic player on the ball but he's never displayed any characteristics a leader should, Doesn't work hard enough on the basics , doesn't communicate,, doesn't organize, doesn't set standards by bollocking or crunching someone.
Guys, Trent's ball led to the penalty. This got us to 2-1.... it was not just him responsible for the losing that position. He's a great player that had a bad game and smack in the head off the boards too.....He'll bounce back I know this must be a very tough time for him but he's going to prove again why he is a top player. Perhaps Slot should come up with solutions for when Trent is overloaded...Szobo was missed, but hat else can be done to help him out...??
@@davewood1982 he was overloaded(2 on 1) and targeted. For me the team win, draws and loses together. Sticking together is key. Yes he could get stuck in more, and I am sure they ill go over this. But the booing and blaming is not constructive - the players hear it and it definitely impacts confidence
If TAA continues to play then LIVERPOOL DO NOT HAVE ANY CHANCE OF WINNING THE LEAGUE.TAA IS A DEFENSIVE LIABILITY LAZY ARROGANT POSITIONALLY NAIVE AND IS A BIG HEADED SELF CENTRED DISGRACE AKIN TO RASHFORD BEHAVIOUR
The guy costed us shit tons of games, a UCL final, and has been a Diva for at least 5 years... Just give him 10th of the stick you are so ready to give to other players like Nunez, Endo, Robertson, Diaz, Gakpo, Konate, ...
Slot along with million of viewers could clearly see what was going on, but he did nothing help him!!! He kept him on for 85 minutes and made no noticeable tactical adjustments to alleviate the situation!!! This was Slot’s worst match so far! He was totally out coached and outclassed by the MU coach.
The opposition are exploiting him obviously, but all the tactical tweaks from Slot in the world wont do anything if a player cant be arsed to put in the effort. Slot said after his first game in charge that for your tactics to have any meaningfull effect you need to win your duels. Trent won 0 duels in 80 mins. Which is strange because up untill the Fulham game he did good on the defensive side. Slot would probably have hooked him earlier if Bradley was ready to do more minutes.
I thought I’d gone back in time to the start of the 22/23 season, as this was the Trent we saw in the first half of that season. Looked like he couldn’t be arsed.
@claudecarlyle9284
Or, Bradley…a super upgrade
Teams have been focusing on attacking Trent's side since he debuted. Idk why people are acting like it's new
@@tommyhoang2344 It's different now because he doesn't care. He will happily throw our season under the bus if it means he is kept injury free for his Madrid contract.
Trent has been dribbled past 30 times this season. Thats more than any other RIGHT BACK in the top 5 leagues in europe!!!Trent has made 9 assists in his last 57 games. People are being sentimental and holding onto his highlights in their minds.
Rather have a solid defence with Bradley who's a much better defender than Trent, than wait 4-5 games for Trent to make one hollywood assist, while every team attacks us on on Trents side (which they all have been targetting for the last 2 years).
Fully agree. 👍🏼
Agreed
he is also being asked to step into midfield, he is also providing assists like a champion. Maybe we need to ask who is taking him to do this and why? I bet the same fans would cry if his assists suddenly dried up even if his defending became solid (Which it wont obvs)
@@jameshansing5396 His assists was at its highest prior to the pandemic before all this midfield talk had started. Most of his assists came from crosses from wide. His numbers once drifting into Midfield is far less than when he has played wide. **One needs to look at the origin of stepping into midfield. It started because Southgate did not rate trent as a RB cos of his poor defending. He convinced Trent that he should play midfield to get into the England lineup. That is when trent started drifting into the midfield and leaving a huge hole at the back. It was not Klopp asking him to do that, it was more Klopp having to accommodate Trent. Klopp allowed trent to do as he wished. Trent has never had discipline.
@@jameshansing5396 Trents best assist rate was prepandemic when he was playing out wide and crossing.. One needs to look at the origin of all this midfield talk.. Gareth southgate did not want to play Trent as he found him defensively weaker than other Right backs.He convinced Trent that if he wanted to get into the England team and play, he weould need to play in Midfield. That is when Trent started drifting into midfield. So its not that Klopp had asked him to do that. I feel klopp had never had any discipline with Trent and just let him do whatever he wanted.. Slot wants him more wide (that is why he looks improved defensively compared to being completely absent.) but still not good enough.
The only position for trent does not exist in most of the modern game anymore. And that is Right Midfield in a 4-4-2 with a RB behind him (David Beckham position). That way he can make use of his talent of crossing. He can't play in the middle as he don't get crossing opportunities, and he can't play RB as he can't defend.
This is why I can't imagine Madrid paying big money for him unless putting him in midfield
Darn! I was going to say that - the problem is that we have Mo Salah
@@donyoung333 No Salah plays as an inside forward/winger.. That is not the position i'm refering to.. The position is only available in a 4-4-2 not 4-3-3
@@themaharanisclosetFootball isn’t played that way anymore, just like no teams play with a true “10” anymore. The game is just different players have to adapt.
@renickjeune8761 exactly my point. I'm just saying that the best position for him does not exist anymore in the modern game.
Everyone has been getting on Robbo lately for mistakes and all that but he at least gives everything out there. I’d rather that then someone who doesn’t seem to give a shit.
Emotionally, it is easy to agree with you. But logically you are wrong. If a player is out of his depth, as Robbo patently is now, then no matter how much he tries he will get found out time and again - which is exactly what is happening 0 he is costing us goals, pens or goal scoring opps in every bloody game, If you have a player like Trent, then there is clearly at leats a chance of sorting him out and having a player who is more than able to thrive at that level.
Getting an easier ride being a local lad, if it was Kostas Tsimikas how many people would be screaming to offload him before January's out.
Robbo was flat in the second half, Kostas should have come on as a sub, better conversion rate from his corners.
He is literally being battered. Every content creators video. Simon Jordan. Carra. The Anfield crowd
What on earth are you talking about?
@@geekylove3603 OK to be fair it is a bit of a double edged sword, particularly because it was Man United. There's also the side of it that goes how can a local lad of all people not be well up for it against United of all opponents.
I'm going to put recent form to one side and address the elephant in the room. Trent is vice captain and has expressed his desire to be club captain. Looking at his attitude on the field, and his attitude when substituted, he shows that he's not captain material. I believe it would be a huge mistake to give him the added responsibility of club captain when he's not once shown that he possesses the qualities required for the role.
Yeh it’s strange to me that more people aren’t pointing this out. Trent shouldn’t be vice captain never mind captain and if this is a condition of his staying then he has to go.
Very valid point, Trent has had games like this where his head goes and becomes lazy and wasteful. Good captain can have bad games but they're never lazy.
Good shit boys!
@Josh - I disagree about "on the ball" being affected. Focus can impact ball playing ability as can be seen in, say the Spurs game, when we were multiple goals up. Passing gets sloppy when focus drops and focus drops for many reasons, but not being 100% committed or focuded is one of the reasons.
I also think Trent tends to pass the wide attacker on, as seen in the highlighted Fulham phase of play and United's 2nd. For United's 2nd, Ibou heads a long ball, and Trent casually strolls inside, not making a run or trying to win the 2nd ball, but just passing the responsibility on to Ibou.
I honestly just think he's got a kind of personality that doesn't react well to a home crowd getting on his back. It might give some players a kick up the arse to try harder getting shouted at but I think he just shuts down when he hears it. You could see it on his face during the game that he was listening to the abuse & didn't know how to handle it. When some people get a lot of stick it makes them not want to try harder. That kind of personality worries me because it's not going to stop until he comes out & clears up the contract situation one way or another.
Robertson also a massive problem this season. Way off the pace and think we have seen the best of him. So many goals against us he has been involved in. New LB and RB must be up there with being priority signings for when we ever do decided to spend money in the year 2029
These stupid owners are just content with getting top 4, they don't care if we win trophies. They have refused to make any major investments in the squad for years now. Look at how we collapsed last season
@@joered6344 Midfield overhaul not a major investment, no?
It's a shame it's kinda taken the contract/real madrid situation to highlight this lack of defensive running back and application to some fans.. Being extremely lazy tracking and not sprinting back isn't a new thing, he's been this way for years now...
No one will make me dislike you Trent!! Legend
Trent is a luxury player, you gotta find a way to accommodate him in the team to get the best out of him, when it works its great, when it doesnt it can be catastrophic, Liverpool might be better off switching to a more traditional right-back going forward like Bradley...also what I noticed against United is I feel like we missed Szobo way too much, we dont really have any replacement for him, no alternative, we need somebody in the midfield who will give us that energy, ground coverage, aggression, physicality, somebody like Baleba from Brighton, would say a player like that is more urgent than a player like Zubimendi, we got plenty of players who are really good on the ball
Good post this.
The main problem with Trent's shocking performance was he didn't look interested in playing, he couldn't pass and just walked when it came to defending. If Trent isn't signing on then just sell him this month
He needs to make more of an effort and not defend so lazy. First and foremost he's a defender u DEFEND.
One game. That’s it. He’s pretty obviously tired and or distracted. The fact Bradley came on and did so well.
@@fayesouthall6604How much does he get payed to play at that top level?
If you are tired tell the manager
Josh's summary of Trent's play for the Martinez goal is spot on!
26:18 Trent HAS been playing like that, but you chose not to see it, mesmerized by an odd pass. And fans have been screaming for Bradley to start for a year!
I have seen Trent sprint back twice this season and thought there were positive signs.. but he did that reversed psychology trick on Slot.. "do keep telling me to defend and hold me accountable!" (not) and proceeded to watch his team mates strain their sinews instead..
Sell him now.. end of.
9:01 He only wants play the piano and hates carrying it. If it was up to him, he’d never have to carry it, but his quickest route into Liverpool’s starting XI happened to be playing as a right-back, a defender. It makes him gesture defend i.e he is pretending to carry the piano, putting his hand on it and everything, but really not lifting it, hoping it doesn’t completely fall apart with the help of others around him. If nothing bad happens and we regain possession, great, he can start playing as his mind’s already been on what he’s gonna play next all throughout the carrying bit anyway.
It’s just the way he’s wired and he aint gonna change, not now as a 26 y/o. He’s the anti-Macherano, anti-Gattuso. Artist.
He is all about bling now. The new Marcus Rashford.
He has statistically given the ball away the most in the Prem League every season for the last 6.
Love these shows, thank you.
Lads come on, Trent´s biggest issue is his arrogance it isn´t that he´s targeted and it isn´t that he´s "had his head turned"
It's nice saying we are top of both leagues. It is a reason for confidence, but, we shouldn't get carried away with champions league because it's basically the same as being top of your group in the group stage of the champions League in previous years. It will go to knockout football in the next round and then it's a lottery same as old champions league format.
No excuses, the Madrid excuse is a kop out, the eye excuse is a kop out, there is NO excuse for lack of effort, especially from a local vice captain!!
Trents poor defending hasn't really been highlighted this season
Do we think it's down to Szoboszlai having lungs like recycling bins and Konate being one of the best CB's in the world?
At this point, one has to wonder if it makes sense to sell him to Madrid now, if indeed there is an offer. Bradley is a quality right-back. Yes, he can't do something TAA can do, but we don't have to constantly worry about covering up for him either. We do need a quality backup since Bradley hasn't been super durable. There has to be a decent right back available. Reinvest whatever you can get for Trent, add something if necessary and get another solid option. It does not need to be a superstar. Honestly, I feel Trent has not contributed that much to the offense this season. Yes, he can make highlight reel passes, but sometimes he gets too much credit for that. Quansah made a beautiful pass to Trent recently and it was barely mentioned while the next pass Trent made to Salah was praised.
The tough part is that Robertson has been subpar this year, so we have to worry about both fullback positions. That foul Robertson made unnecessarily holding on to the guy with one minute left in added time was shockingly dumb. There is no danger at all and you are giving up a free kick in a dangerous position. I can't understand how an experienced player can make a mistake like that.
Chris nailed it. Trents runs like he doesn't give shit. And he's a real lethargic player. Not just against United. He's always been like this and is being found out more and more. Lazy pre Madonna
Primadonna..... he's not a warm up act for the former queen of pop. lol
First time I noticed a team overloading the RHS. Was Brentford a few seasons back - ever since then it’s been a notable problem
How Alison not save the 2nd goal trickled past him 😂
Is Fulham another back 3? I think that could be our cryptonite if it is, teams keep overloading our fullbacks
Even if it’s a back 4, if they’ve got an extra man in a midfield 5 with the 1 striker, it’ll have the same effect!
@ true, could drop the DM in between and push up the fullbacks. Hoping if Ibou is back and builds fitness it’ll tighten things up again! Having Bradley fit is good too to put some pressure/cover on RB if Trent starts going lazy again!
Trent is getting criticised everywhere not only from our fanbase. This is when we have to do our due diligence and support him. People can say he didnt care on sunday relating to madrid etc... I disagree, we've seen him have performances like this b4. It was 90% based performance, 10% contract talks. You have to consider also that we went a whole week without playing a game and you know that it disrupts our rhythm, especially when you look at what happens after the international breaks. Things may get worse for him from this point on, this is when the contract talks could TRULY 90% affect his performance.
Throw this on the podcast feed please 😊
Opposing teams are gonna focus on that side of our defense again. Trent needs to show, regardless of what happens in the summer, that he is fighting for the shirt in every game. You’re allowed a bad game but lack of effort is not.
Bit harsh giving Trent stick when we were a man down? The first example isnt really fair at all for the reasons you eventually went into.
What is also KIND of unfair is what we are asking Trent to do again by the looks of it which is step into midfield, then act all shocked when he's not @ RB? It's f*cking silly. Works in some games, not all.
4:02 They didn't 'score from this' the ticker says 2-1 Fulham and the game ended 2-2.
Trent is asked to play a role that leaves space behind him so opponents will always target this side with greater rescources. Add Salah doing less and less backtracking and we are being exposed. We can't afford an expansive RB with dreams of winning the Balon D'or. We need a young, energetic RB who works his socks off, relishes a challenge, and gets the crowd up with his enthusiasm. Anyone remember Mbappe getting cleared out at Anfield a few weeks back?
Made up paul isnt on the one. Coz if he was he would be pulling every excuse out of his arse possible. And disagreeing with the blatant obvious . Lovely too see the cold hard truth on the channel
The Deep Dive is top 3 analysis shows for me alongside FourFourTwo and MNF
You should analyse Curtis then, as his performance was utterly pathetic. Was a bystander in midfield, and worse of all, bullied at every opportunity by their mids
More rotational, less seasoned, not vice captain
@@jonofitz11also, nobody currently wondering whether or not Curtis is committed. It’s not about mistakes. We will support the players despite mistakes. But we won’t condone apathy
The plan wouldn't have been thinking they're going to get serious chances, at the top, but that pinning him back limits his ability to influence the game offensively. The fact he didn't have the effort needed did provide them with chances.
I think it’ll be a bigger problem if Trent stays, rather than if he leaves.
I think what these boys are trying to say is Ruben Amorim is the best young manager in world football so why didn't Liverpool appoint him in the summer?
Teams have been exploiting his lack of defensive duties for years, as much as I admire him he can’t defend
I agree with a few things but Salah doesn’t defend . Thats why Henderson plugged that hole for Trent .
Trent would have been a world class RB if he (and Klopp) had worked on his defending.
Instead, Klopp basically indulged him (with the "inverted right back" nonsense), where the other defenders then had to cover him.
I think Arne screwed up in this game, (maybe for the first time this season?) not bringing Endo on for the last 20 minutes. Not only Trent’s weakness, but also Konate was goosed for that last 20. Should have tightened the hatches at 2-1.
If Trent stays we need to reconsider the type of LB we want - maybe a LB/CH hybrid
I didn’t see enough aggression and fitness from konate, robbo was the same version we’ve seen all season that’s on the downturn. Curtis didn’t make enough runs to create space show up in the box or cover our right hand size. Diaz just lacked that strikers instinct of where to be to break down a low block of 5 to 7 bodies and salah and Dian don’t cut in to shoot create chances or do that back pass cross nearly enough to create enough game winning chances. So much of what we’ve gotten used to so we played like we were scared to lose. And at the end of the day that was horrendous football from Trent
Trent is a reluctant defender. He makes some positional mistakes but also from time to time he can't be bothered to leg it back. That is not ok.
Question is can you trust him going forward, upcoming in the league we have two tough away games Forest/Brentford, if he were to perform like that again, we'd be in trouble ....
It’s his body language that infuriated me and it’s not the first time…robbo and Bradley are always bang up for it even if they get done - hendo kept him on it now he’s gone
i appreciate Chris' theory that the last days of your final notice is impossible to check in mentally. i can relate!
I'm just wondering though, Being a former chef (Chris), handing in your notice to the employer is one thing.
I find it hard to see a Liverpoolfan giving any less in a game vs man u because of this. With all due respect to chris ofcourse, i doubt he grew up as a fan of the resturant he worked at haha
I personally think it is TAA and his style. He is nonchalant in both good and bad, making him look sometimes as a maestro a la Pirlo, and sometimes like Mario Balotelli who tries gegenpressing. i'm sure it's not exclusive to either one, and could be a mixture. i just don't think it neccasarily means he is ready for Patatas bravas in spain yet, but his flaw as a footballer, more spesifically as a defender. VVD can get away with it because he is the perfect package of a defender and is able to correct his mistake 97% time, while TAA doesn't have the defensive capebilities as His captain. TAA is brilliant for the attacking, medium at best as a pure defender.
I accept Trent’s had a bad game v United & even Fulham, but he’s not solely to blame for the weaknesses down our right. In all the examples shown here, where the hell is his midfield cover? He’s left stranded. During the game I was giving him stick for being lazy/ not arsed, & he deserves that stick. But solving the problem means tightening up the midfield cover. Another point with Trent, I don’t see him as a Captain. You never see him shouting or having a go at / giddying up his teammates, where’s the leadership skills? Maybe I’m missing something, but I just don’t see it.
Lads, Trent is a midfielder playing as a full back with a winger in front of him, Mo Salah, who, by design does not track back. What do you expect ? Utd, Fulham and everyone else is going to load up on his side. There was a Utd attack in the final stages of the game where they had the ball on their right, Liverpool half, and 3 big Utd players were playing on top of him awaiting the cross. Slot has to find a way of protecting him otherwise .....
it's a Coutinho situation now. there's a player in the XI running less than anyone else & producing moments of magic to make up for it. you can improve the team by getting rid & having a player who carries the piano. Bradley can play there, Gomez can. sign Kvara & Hato, play Bradley, sell Trent
You got to give United and Amrine credit
Fulham didn’t score from that passage of play it was already 1-2
I've been saying this for some time back when Klopp was here. We need a straight back 4 not a wandering right back.
I get what Chris is saying handing in your notice and not committing in the last week or so. But at the same time, you don't have the chance of lifting the biggest trophies in the world after a season at Morrisons.
Do you think there is something in my theory that Amorim targeted TAA, because he is under a stressfull situation and amorim's united could gain success by dampening the crowds support for him? Win a few duels fast against a person under tremendous pressure.
i'm not reffering to it being a tactical pitch decision, but more a mental move. choose the weak one in the herd.
I'm irritated by Trent's complacency/jogging etc.
But equally, he's human, he's under fire by his own fans, not playing well by his own standards, and I'm sure Arne is on his case.
Trent is not worth £300k a week and a massive signing on fee, Bradley is the better affordable option.
i think Slot has to change his tactic! we praised him at the start for moulding the team into a more secure team…..after 45 mn i could see that trent and jones couldn’t kick a football….there is 100 tweaks he could have done …ask the team to drop back and let united in control hit them on the transitions! tell macca to play in the right inside !salah has to defend a bit more in this situation…so many things could have been done !!!the changes happened too late and we brought the wrong player on 🤯🤯🤯not happy with trent attitude…bench next game
Question: Are Real interested if he's got 2 years on his contract rather than being on a free?
So it was obvious what was happening in the first 1/2 with their tactics and Trents form so during that time and most of the second 1/2 why didn't the manager or backroom staff (of which there are many and Slot has said how great they are) do bugger all to address it? If your not a Liverpool fan so could say he was left out to dry.
Madrid aren’t gonna pay him 300k a week if plays like that for rest of the season, so he better get his arse in gear or he’s gonna be looking for a team next year
Trent is a special player. But lacking effort in a man united match is unacceptable, especially being a scouser. Can u even imagine if gerrard played like that against united??? Gerrard was always charging in to slide tackles, starting fights, a true scouser, what is wrong with trent? How can u act like ur bigger than ur club when ur not even the top player in the team?
Listen, Trent was awful but if a team focus all their play down one side because that’s where their good players are then any goals are likely to come down that side. It was robbo first and now Trent, I’m just saying that you shouldn’t expect for everything to be sorted if we buy two new full backs, we will still concede.
I’m not even joking, play Connor on the right and the greek scouser on the left and we win the league.
Trent actually made us lose 2 champions league agains madrid.. literally. all goals always came from his side.. and now he made Dalton look like vinicious jr.. the lad does no have a defender mentality.. he just wants to go forward.
It was not the first final, but the second final, he was out of position. Karius was at fault in the first final.
U cant have that issue down ure right side when we play forest next league game away with their pace in attack, and konate getting constantly dragged wide into the right channel we need to be compact, its a big decision for the manager in terms of line up and in game if this right side continues to cause us these defensive issues.
On the Martinez goal- it has nothing to do with Grav. TRENT GAVE THE BALL AWAY. If you turn the ball over in the attacking third as a defender, your number one priority and obligation to your teammates is to sprint back like your fucking life depends on it. The jogging and apathetic attitude while playing sooo shitty (in this match of all occasions) is appalling.
I feel sorry for slot in all this instead of him getting praise for his amazing start as boss it’s all about contracts instead of his & liverpools amazing start if it was arsenal in tv media Arteta would be on a thrown & every single arsenal player would be world class & heroes
Josh, not wearing a T-shirt??? are you ok?
When bradley play with passion and agresive takle.
Trent has always been the week point in our defense. Problem I'd Robertson is 💩 to this year
And this is the same Trent, who dreams of being Liverpool captain 😂😂😂
Drop Trent for rest of season. Let him have Madrid where he can fanny around posing like the rest of them.
As soon as i heard andy Robinson i switched off
Needs taken away from the leadership group and stripped of the vice captaincy too... Shouldn't of been given it in the 1st place.. he's a fantastic player on the ball but he's never displayed any characteristics a leader should, Doesn't work hard enough on the basics , doesn't communicate,, doesn't organize, doesn't set standards by bollocking or crunching someone.
Analyzing the Fulham game is pointless.
P7sh salah centre trent on the right Bradley at right back done
The pile on is shit!! It's all speculation. YOU NEVER WALK ALONE TRENT !!
Disappointed in Slot. Should of took him off earlier.
Cant defend and wants to be the best right back in the world and win a ballon d’or!! Wake up TAA
Lets talk about set peices, garbage...
He should NEVER PLAY FOR LIVERPOOL EVER AGAIN....ABSOLITELY DISGRACEFUL
Guys, Trent's ball led to the penalty. This got us to 2-1.... it was not just him responsible for the losing that position. He's a great player that had a bad game and smack in the head off the boards too.....He'll bounce back I know this must be a very tough time for him but he's going to prove again why he is a top player. Perhaps Slot should come up with solutions for when Trent is overloaded...Szobo was missed, but hat else can be done to help him out...??
Instead of getting the team to bail him out how about just using a rb that is capable of winning his 1 on 1 battle ?
@@davewood1982 he was overloaded(2 on 1) and targeted. For me the team win, draws and loses together. Sticking together is key. Yes he could get stuck in more, and I am sure they ill go over this. But the booing and blaming is not constructive - the players hear it and it definitely impacts confidence
All our ops know that Trent and robbo are shite these days
If TAA continues to play then LIVERPOOL DO NOT HAVE ANY CHANCE OF WINNING THE LEAGUE.TAA IS A DEFENSIVE LIABILITY LAZY ARROGANT POSITIONALLY NAIVE AND IS A BIG HEADED SELF CENTRED DISGRACE AKIN TO RASHFORD BEHAVIOUR
The kids done - he wants to go taste bellinghams man juices -
The guy costed us shit tons of games, a UCL final, and has been a Diva for at least 5 years... Just give him 10th of the stick you are so ready to give to other players like Nunez, Endo, Robertson, Diaz, Gakpo, Konate, ...
Slot along with million of viewers could clearly see what was going on, but he did nothing help him!!! He kept him on for 85 minutes and made no noticeable tactical adjustments to alleviate the situation!!! This was Slot’s worst match so far! He was totally out coached and outclassed by the MU coach.
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