@@leighz1962 makes sense I have adhd and add 🤣 thanks for clarifying! That legit made me laugh and it’s probally something that was said near the start or shortly after my question 😅
Angron, despite his ordeal as a broken primarch, clearly was still capable of loyalty and love, as shown by his regard for his "eaters of cities" comrades. Had the Emperor listened to Angron and saved his men from utter annihilation, he would have been eternally grateful to his father and most likely remained loyal.
but how? would you have randomly attacked a world that pledge their allegiance to you? Couldn't even conquer the world on his world like his other brothers did, him morty, perty biggest man childs.
The Emperor is already breaking the rules by saving the "enemy leader" of that allied world. What difference does it make in saving a few more?@@Sullybandz
As a result of his refusal to save Angron’s men, the Primarch went on to butcher and raze countless worlds that could have otherwise been brought into the Imperium’s folds with minor bloodshed.
He could've done one better, sent his sons to his rescue and bring him into the fold that way. After all, they shared kinship like Angron did with his fellow prisoners. Allied planet or not, they should've paid for what they did to his son.
So true. The atrocity and mistreatment Angron experienced from those people is enough for a loving father to cry for vengeance. Angron was a kind-hearted soul who was turned into a beast, and the last vestiges on his grip of what's left of his humanity was denied to him by the Emperor and instead forcefully took him against his will. Angron saw that act as the Emperor chosing who lives and who dies and he's friends being slaves are so below him they're not worth saving. Imagine the Anger of Angron must have been when he heard his father talked about being invested on the "welfare of humanity". @@grimreminder5038
I am pretty sure Angron never wanted them to get them implanted with the nails. The legion wanted to get closer to their primarch, he kept leaving his legion and calling them beneath his city eaters. He never said "Make the nails and put them in" his apothecary was trying to recreate the nails. When Angron found out, the apothecary asked him if he can implement the nails, and Angron seemed indifferent about it. He never looked at his legion as anything but an annoyance.
Yes and no. He didn't demand it from the beginning. His apothecary (The name eludes me currently) decided to start trying to make the butchers nails so the sons could connect more with Angron. He was pretty "whatever" about it, even ended up leaving for a time, but as soon as one person survived the procedure, then Angron gave the command to get them put in. So in my eyes, he had little to do with that procedure. :) @@mikesnyder3317
Loyal angron would have to equate to either fallen sanguinius or fallen russ imo. Both woulds been cool, i think fallen blood angels woulda been awesome
Hot take, the universe wants to reach equilibrium; therefor if Angron hadn't turned evil someone else would have in his place. Hot pitch, the Fulgrim clone goes on his long awaited redemption quest and as part of the rite goes to the immaterium to beg Ferrus' forgiveness, but because he's not the original, Ferrus will not accept the apology. Terrifying pitch: Ferrus' consciousness was still in his dead and defleshed skull sitting on Horus' throne and was witness to his brother's madness unable to do anything.
He was implanted with the nails after refusing to fight his adopted father onnamausse. Kharn was the one who came to angron to ask him and then angron gave the order to have them designed and implanted.
You know I often thought of an idea with Morty while being punished by the grandfather Nurgle. He realized How much of a fool He's been and how his rebellious nature led Morty to his fate. You know give him some character development.
Am i the only one who thinks that the Emperor is humanities biggest enemy the way he is sabotaged his primarchs? Force teleported Angron to let his friends die? check Humiliating Mortarion by one shotting his mortal enemy in front of his eyes instead of just giving him a simple gas mask to do it himself check Forbidding the most powerful psycher primarch to use any psychic powers at all and, on top of it, simply offering him to replace is leagion with "a better one" instead of just fixing his sons. check. its kinda suprising that there were some loyal Primarchs left considering all his bullshitery. Also its kinda suspicious why so many legions hat "flaws" in here genseedes. Is it just a minor mistake of a specimen thats considered perfect and godlike...or a implemented failsave to be sure to get rid of them once they used their purpose like he did with the other guys during the unification wars (forgot the name^^)
All intentional by the Big E. Groomed them for some measure of success but ultimately, failure. Same as it always was, just like the Thunder Warriors. All part of the plan. Yes, including the Golden Throne and his fall and ascension.
If his sons were loyal he would be loyal. Since they became traitor in his vision he turned traitor “If i am damned i’ll be full damned!” -Magnus The Red, vibing with Curze
@@SYLRMHA if big E just said ‘you know, spoiler Curze here is my vision of your place in my imperium. Enjoy.’ Of course once that doesn’t come to pass well… yeah, we can debate how he would handle his visions not being true.
i was just thinking what if its both that come back next russ and khan both barbareian primarchs with dark eldar and new orks i mean morks a whole army of morks nano nano
THIS GUY is SERIOUSLY biased against the salamanders, especially Vulkan... VULKAN LIVES! I don't like he's using an Attonborough like voice to be so biased against Vulkan because of how trusted the Nature documentaries that he narrated were when I was growing up. Makes it seem like it's fact even though I know it's bullshit.
Thanks for all the excellent quality content I have been listening to all of it. Keep up the great work 🐝
If angron was found surrounded by piles of dead eldari, how did a slave trader capture him if the eldar couldn’t stop him?
He was probably very wounded.
Holy attention span batman. They said he regained his health afterwards aka wounded by eldar and not able to resist slavers.
@@leighz1962 makes sense I have adhd and add 🤣 thanks for clarifying! That legit made me laugh and it’s probally something that was said near the start or shortly after my question 😅
I took it as they tried stopping the pod and got hit with shrapnel upon the pod landing
Angron, despite his ordeal as a broken primarch, clearly was still capable of loyalty and love, as shown by his regard for his "eaters of cities" comrades. Had the Emperor listened to Angron and saved his men from utter annihilation, he would have been eternally grateful to his father and most likely remained loyal.
but how? would you have randomly attacked a world that pledge their allegiance to you? Couldn't even conquer the world on his world like his other brothers did, him morty, perty biggest man childs.
The Emperor is already breaking the rules by saving the "enemy leader" of that allied world. What difference does it make in saving a few more?@@Sullybandz
As a result of his refusal to save Angron’s men, the Primarch went on to butcher and raze countless worlds that could have otherwise been brought into the Imperium’s folds with minor bloodshed.
He could've done one better, sent his sons to his rescue and bring him into the fold that way. After all, they shared kinship like Angron did with his fellow prisoners. Allied planet or not, they should've paid for what they did to his son.
So true. The atrocity and mistreatment Angron experienced from those people is enough for a loving father to cry for vengeance. Angron was a kind-hearted soul who was turned into a beast, and the last vestiges on his grip of what's left of his humanity was denied to him by the Emperor and instead forcefully took him against his will. Angron saw that act as the Emperor chosing who lives and who dies and he's friends being slaves are so below him they're not worth saving. Imagine the Anger of Angron must have been when he heard his father talked about being invested on the "welfare of humanity". @@grimreminder5038
I am pretty sure Angron never wanted them to get them implanted with the nails. The legion wanted to get closer to their primarch, he kept leaving his legion and calling them beneath his city eaters. He never said "Make the nails and put them in" his apothecary was trying to recreate the nails. When Angron found out, the apothecary asked him if he can implement the nails, and Angron seemed indifferent about it. He never looked at his legion as anything but an annoyance.
Incorrect.
Not true. He demanded it
Yes and no. He didn't demand it from the beginning. His apothecary (The name eludes me currently) decided to start trying to make the butchers nails so the sons could connect more with Angron. He was pretty "whatever" about it, even ended up leaving for a time, but as soon as one person survived the procedure, then Angron gave the command to get them put in. So in my eyes, he had little to do with that procedure. :) @@mikesnyder3317
@@mikesnyder3317true he ordered them to continue to proceed even while it was at 100% death rate
Ok tourist.
Horus: I'm surrounded by useless nutcases!
Peter Turbo: What am I to you?
You should put this on Spotify. Would like to listen in my car.
Angron has cornrows.
Change my mind.
Cornrows of Madness !!! 😂😂
Angron and Magnus both were lost cause. They were at the extremes of physical and psychic spectrums thus would succumb to chaos sooner or later.
Loyal angron would have to equate to either fallen sanguinius or fallen russ imo. Both woulds been cool, i think fallen blood angels woulda been awesome
It's sort of funny how the text just goes off the rails sometimes.
It's incredibly annoying how the text just goes off the rails all too frequently.***
There, I fixed it for ya 👍
Hot take, the universe wants to reach equilibrium; therefor if Angron hadn't turned evil someone else would have in his place.
Hot pitch, the Fulgrim clone goes on his long awaited redemption quest and as part of the rite goes to the immaterium to beg Ferrus' forgiveness, but because he's not the original, Ferrus will not accept the apology.
Terrifying pitch: Ferrus' consciousness was still in his dead and defleshed skull sitting on Horus' throne and was witness to his brother's madness unable to do anything.
He was implanted with the nails after refusing to fight his adopted father onnamausse. Kharn was the one who came to angron to ask him and then angron gave the order to have them designed and implanted.
You know I often thought of an idea with Morty while being punished by the grandfather Nurgle. He realized How much of a fool He's been and how his rebellious nature led Morty to his fate.
You know give him some character development.
When was this released? Lion'el is totally back.
Was this video made like right before the announcement of the Lions return? Lol
That’s how meth works. The butchers nails is meth.
Am i the only one who thinks that the Emperor is humanities biggest enemy the way he is sabotaged his primarchs?
Force teleported Angron to let his friends die?
check
Humiliating Mortarion by one shotting his mortal enemy in front of his eyes instead of just giving him a simple gas mask to do it himself
check
Forbidding the most powerful psycher primarch to use any psychic powers at all and, on top of it, simply offering him to replace is leagion with "a better one" instead of just fixing his sons.
check.
its kinda suprising that there were some loyal Primarchs left considering all his bullshitery. Also its kinda suspicious why so many legions hat "flaws" in here genseedes. Is it just a minor mistake of a specimen thats considered perfect and godlike...or a implemented failsave to be sure to get rid of them once they used their purpose like he did with the other guys during the unification wars (forgot the name^^)
All intentional by the Big E. Groomed them for some measure of success but ultimately, failure. Same as it always was, just like the Thunder Warriors. All part of the plan. Yes, including the Golden Throne and his fall and ascension.
Konrad Curze is loyal
If his sons were loyal he would be loyal.
Since they became traitor in his vision he turned traitor
“If i am damned i’ll be full damned!”
-Magnus The Red, vibing with Curze
Yeah...sure
@@SYLRMHA if big E just said ‘you know, spoiler Curze here is my vision of your place in my imperium. Enjoy.’
Of course once that doesn’t come to pass well… yeah, we can debate how he would handle his visions not being true.
Loyal while fighting for the traitor legions and skinning civilians for the fun of it
Alpha Leggin’
U keep calling the legion the Dogs of war rather than the war hounds
Isnt Dawn in the setting currently ?
Is Asmondgold a Champion of Nurgel ?
2 got necrodermitized and 11 prison on titan
name of 11 is malice (according to horus) and from old lore hi is known for battling csm with more chaos things
second lost in rangdan wars in same location where "modern" pariah nexus are
probably 2 is reason for Sangy allience with necrons in 30k
Lol ok
i was just thinking what if its both that come back next russ and khan both barbareian primarchs with dark eldar and new orks i mean morks a whole army of morks nano nano
If you haven’t collabed with Baldemort yet you totally should. I’d love to listen to you guys have a conversation with your awesome voices
2 missing legions/primarchs theories?
THIS GUY is SERIOUSLY biased against the salamanders, especially Vulkan... VULKAN LIVES! I don't like he's using an Attonborough like voice to be so biased against Vulkan because of how trusted the Nature documentaries that he narrated were when I was growing up. Makes it seem like it's fact even though I know it's bullshit.
But way whud doren fall for a trap like that
Leo el Johnson 🤣🤣🤣 it's LION el Johnson 🤦🏻♂️
Is it just me, or does the first sentence of the video MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE???
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Eternals? I think you mean Perpetuals, bud...
Pretty sure english isn't his native language.
@@Va11idusIf it isn't, he speaks it better than most native speakers.