I owned the xf400 for a while. I wanted to love it, but it just had too many quirks - poor battery life and lack of true customization for the buttons being two. I just purchased the x1500, and only played with it for a day, but I'm liking it way more. Would love to see a micro 4/3 sensor in one of these smaller camcorders though. Nice vid!
How do you done the light levels when zooming in? I bought the x2000 and find it’s good when light is great but when gloomy and zoom the gain makes the picture quality poor. Thinking I should have bought the Canon now!
Hi. I'm considering getting the X1500 new, or the XF400 used (from a reliable person). The X1500 seems a bit more appealing. What is your opinion in low or lower light situations (i.e. stage, streets at night, etc)? Reasonable?
Remember, the Canon is up to f/2.8 at wide end vs up to f/1.8 at the wide end on the HC-X2000 so the 1 inch sensor advantages are not as significant as they could be. You can't set the ring to EV control on the Canon. Also the screen is so sharp on the HC-X2000 I'm able to manually focus on it using "detail" option, I don't even use focus peaking on it. The HC-X2000 is my favorite camcorder around that price range.
It's funny how you mentioned the camera could be used in a church. The next day after the HC-X2000 arrived, my friend who is a media director at his local church allowed me to film a service there. I pulled out all the tricks: 360 degree shutter angle at 30fps, CineD, -7 NR control (no noise reduction), etc. I still barely knew how to fully operate the camera, I only had it for a few hours. I own a GH5 as my interchangeable lens camera, but the convenience of a camcorder is awesome too. It just goes to show that if you know what you're doing, that tiny sensor isn't so bad: ua-cam.com/video/SfggWSAs1Xk/v-deo.html - Note: I did some tweaks in Resolve like highlight reduction and white balance adjustment.
Awesome comparison video. I ended up getting the pana 1500. Do you have a video that shows the Panasonic with and without your canon wide angle lens for comparison? Thx!
No, but I might do that in the future. Problem is that the Canon wide angle adapter I own has been discontinued, so it's not as easy to find if you wanted it.
But the big zoom factor of the Panasonic is way better. Side by side video comparison between the 1” and the 1/2.5 of the Panasonic is really tough to see a difference. Even the digital zoom of the Panasonic and image stabilization is second to none.
Great video...I want to "retire" my Canon XF300 and I dont know what to get..I have a C100mk2 for corporate videos but for live events (concerts and wedding ceremonies) I could use a camcorder for sure...the small sensor in the panny is not promising...I need something better than my XF300 in low light.... I know my C100 mk2 with a sigma 18-35mm is king in low light but not always easy to use in live events...what would you recommend? thanks!
Depends on your budget. HIGH END: Canon XF705, Canon C70 + Compact-Servo 18-80mm & 70-200mm, C200. MIDDLE: Canon XF400 (if you need 4k/60p), Canon XA50 (my personal favorite), Canon G60 (shoots Clog, but no XF-AVC codec). LOW: Canon XA40 (no Clog, tho)
@@VideoGizmology thanks so much...yeah...I considered the XF705 but it's a lot of money here in Canada...I looked at the XF400 but that one is not a real XF camera-more like the XA-50 really...for "cinematic" shots I use the C100 mk2 and even a Canon 90D but I'm hoping to replace my XF300- the 705 is the real upgrade...way too much. I was hoping the Panasonic X2000 would do but low light is worse than the xf300 or maybe the same...before the pandemic, Canon was rumoured to be working on a replacement for the XF205- this is what I found: Canon XF505- Replacement for the XF205-Same 1″ sensor as the XF705-12G-SDI output and SD cards-An integrated zoom lens with 15x zoom-BP-A batteries- but nothing so far...thanks so much!
Thanks for the comparison video, I gave you thumbs up. Question please. In your review you mention that you are filming in CineLike D profile. I have a question about this…….CineLike D profile. I film in also CinelikeD, but have problems with the Color Garde. Edit the productions in FCPX, on a Mini Mac M1. Because I had problems in a project recorded in CineLikeD, I even bought the studio version of DaVinci Resolve, but I am drowning in it. Do you use CineLikeD Luts or Color Grade yourself? hope you can give me some pointers to go in direction for good color grading, or maybe a course (youTube can't find one) focused on cilelike D of the Panasonic HC-X2000 and the GH5, which I also own. On FCPX Or DaVinci...
It's hard to color grade CineD, but also V-Log L unless you properly expose and even then, it's not easy for a beginner or intermediate level. When I shoot Cine D, I don't have much room to push the colors. You might have extra room if you shoot 4:2:2 10-Bit codecs, so if you're not shooting 10-Bit, that might help. Otherwise, I would try to get the look you want in camera.
Thanks for the comparison video, I gave you thumbs up. Question please. How is the auto focusing on the Panasonic versus the Canon? I don't think I heard you mention about AF on your 5 points. Just about every review I've ever seen on Panasonic cameras say auto focusing is poor to un-usable. Just curious.
During bright exterior shots, I couldn't tell which camera was better, but I gave the edge to the Canon. However, once I got into really low light, the Panasonic CX10 did better at autofocus. You can see that test here: ua-cam.com/video/-9kC8sN15Hs/v-deo.html
13:42 - I have 105 hours of operation time (under menu > Information) on the HC-X2000. There is a faster way of turning on this camera. Don't press the power button to turn it off, just close the monitor and tuck away the viewfinder. Now you can open the monitor or viewfinder and the camera automatically powers on, this is remembered even after a battery change.
I could not justify the Canon's asking price. I thoroughly did my research prior to choosing the HC-X2000. I even found out that you can't use the viewfinder and monitor at the same time on the NX80. For my use case (outdoors in good light), the HC-X2000 was the upgrade from the AX53 I had waited years for. Also, when recording a DSC Labs ChromaMatch Pro chart, I found the HC-X2000 to be the most color accurate camera I have. Panasonic really gave the small sensor some attention. Larger sensors have their place but finally a modern, pro level tiny sensor camcorder.
I haven't tested the XA70 yet, but it can't be that different from the XA50 because all the other models have been similar despite the upgrades, so I'm assuming the results will be close to the XF400/XA50. The most important difference in my opinion is the 422 10-bit codec that Canon refuses to give us in their lower end cameras. If they gave us both 422 10-bit and Clog 2, I would stick with Canon.
There aren't a lot of options for traditional lower budget camcorders. Only Canon has updated their models recently, so if you want the newest tech, get an XA70. I personally like the Panasonic X1500/2000/CX10 lineup. Those cameras are good for most situations except for low light. Sony hasn't updated their camcorders in 5 years and they still cost the same price, so I don't buy Sony's camcorders, but their mirrorless cameras are great. I recommend the ZV-1 as a UA-cam camera.
Right now, the best 4K 60fps camcorder (not DSLR or mirrorless) is the Canon XF605, but the average consumer probably doesn't have $4,500 to buy the XF605, so the next one down is the Panasonic CX10/X2000/X1500 series. The cheapest of the best 4K 60fps camcorders is the Panasonic X1500, which is nearly the same as the CX10 as far as image quality goes. Then there are always action cameras like the GoPro, Osmo Action, or Insta360 models that can do 4k at 60fps or more, but you are stuck with the action camera look and features. I would also include the latest iPhone and Android smartphones on this list , too. An iPhone 13 Pro shoots pretty good 4k 60fps video.
@@VideoGizmology What about the XF400, would it still be worth getting a used one over the XC10 or X2000? I have found a deal for a used XF400 for 1400$.
@@VideoGizmology I'd love to see a direct video comparison between the pricey Canon XF605 and one of the Panasonic CX10/X2000 etc..any video on youtube I can watch? I wish I could afford the XF605...the Xf400 second hand is cheap now and I think the image quality would be the same as the XF605 but it lacks controls I find so useful on my ancient XF300...thanks
I'd like to see that comparison, too. Hardly anyone on UA-cam would buy those two specific cameras, though. On paper, the XF605 should look a lot better than the XF400 because of the 422 10-bit codec and Log, but from the footage I've seen online, it doesn't look that noticeable, especially as the XA70 is around the corner. My next purchase might be the XA70 or the Panasonic HC-X2, which both appear to be interesting 1 inch camcorders packed with features.
Great comparison. I debated last year on either XF400, NX80, or HC-X2000. I shoot primarily in day light. The HC-X2000 is what I chose. I even got bokeh with that tiny sensor, check out my test footage: ua-cam.com/video/FuwTB8BdkMo/v-deo.html
I owned the xf400 for a while. I wanted to love it, but it just had too many quirks - poor battery life and lack of true customization for the buttons being two. I just purchased the x1500, and only played with it for a day, but I'm liking it way more. Would love to see a micro 4/3 sensor in one of these smaller camcorders though. Nice vid!
How do you done the light levels when zooming in? I bought the x2000 and find it’s good when light is great but when gloomy and zoom the gain makes the picture quality poor. Thinking I should have bought the Canon now!
Hi. I'm considering getting the X1500 new, or the XF400 used (from a reliable person). The X1500 seems a bit more appealing. What is your opinion in low or lower light situations (i.e. stage, streets at night, etc)? Reasonable?
The 4/3 gonna mess up the weight
Remember, the Canon is up to f/2.8 at wide end vs up to f/1.8 at the wide end on the HC-X2000 so the 1 inch sensor advantages are not as significant as they could be. You can't set the ring to EV control on the Canon. Also the screen is so sharp on the HC-X2000 I'm able to manually focus on it using "detail" option, I don't even use focus peaking on it. The HC-X2000 is my favorite camcorder around that price range.
Does the X1500 has IR night vision capability?
Your videos are always so helpful and informative. Thank you!
I have a Canon Vixia GX10 and has the 1 inch sensor. After viewing your review, I think the Canon is much better than the Panasonic.
Thank you for a very informative video and comparison between the two cameras. Great work!
It's funny how you mentioned the camera could be used in a church. The next day after the HC-X2000 arrived, my friend who is a media director at his local church allowed me to film a service there. I pulled out all the tricks: 360 degree shutter angle at 30fps, CineD, -7 NR control (no noise reduction), etc. I still barely knew how to fully operate the camera, I only had it for a few hours. I own a GH5 as my interchangeable lens camera, but the convenience of a camcorder is awesome too. It just goes to show that if you know what you're doing, that tiny sensor isn't so bad: ua-cam.com/video/SfggWSAs1Xk/v-deo.html - Note: I did some tweaks in Resolve like highlight reduction and white balance adjustment.
Awesome comparison video. I ended up getting the pana 1500.
Do you have a video that shows the Panasonic with and without your canon wide angle lens for comparison? Thx!
No, but I might do that in the future. Problem is that the Canon wide angle adapter I own has been discontinued, so it's not as easy to find if you wanted it.
Kick ass review wow thanks best review Ive seen on this panasonic model
But the big zoom factor of the Panasonic is way better. Side by side video comparison between the 1” and the 1/2.5 of the Panasonic is really tough to see a difference. Even the digital zoom of the Panasonic and image stabilization is second to none.
Great video...I want to "retire" my Canon XF300 and I dont know what to get..I have a C100mk2 for corporate videos but for live events (concerts and wedding ceremonies) I could use a camcorder for sure...the small sensor in the panny is not promising...I need something better than my XF300 in low light.... I know my C100 mk2 with a sigma 18-35mm is king in low light but not always easy to use in live events...what would you recommend? thanks!
Depends on your budget. HIGH END: Canon XF705, Canon C70 + Compact-Servo 18-80mm & 70-200mm, C200. MIDDLE: Canon XF400 (if you need 4k/60p), Canon XA50 (my personal favorite), Canon G60 (shoots Clog, but no XF-AVC codec). LOW: Canon XA40 (no Clog, tho)
@@VideoGizmology thanks so much...yeah...I considered the XF705 but it's a lot of money here in Canada...I looked at the XF400 but that one is not a real XF camera-more like the XA-50 really...for "cinematic" shots I use the C100 mk2 and even a Canon 90D but I'm hoping to replace my XF300- the 705 is the real upgrade...way too much. I was hoping the Panasonic X2000 would do but low light is worse than the xf300 or maybe the same...before the pandemic, Canon was rumoured to be working on a replacement for the XF205- this is what I found: Canon XF505- Replacement for the XF205-Same 1″ sensor as the XF705-12G-SDI output and SD cards-An integrated zoom lens with 15x zoom-BP-A batteries- but nothing so far...thanks so much!
Thanks for the comparison video, I gave you thumbs up. Question please.
In your review you mention that you are filming in CineLike D profile.
I have a question about this…….CineLike D profile.
I film in also CinelikeD, but have problems with the Color Garde.
Edit the productions in FCPX, on a Mini Mac M1.
Because I had problems in a project recorded in CineLikeD, I even bought the studio version of DaVinci Resolve, but I am drowning in it.
Do you use CineLikeD Luts or Color Grade yourself?
hope you can give me some pointers to go in direction for good color grading,
or maybe a course (youTube can't find one)
focused on cilelike D of the Panasonic HC-X2000 and the GH5, which I also own.
On FCPX Or DaVinci...
It's hard to color grade CineD, but also V-Log L unless you properly expose and even then, it's not easy for a beginner or intermediate level. When I shoot Cine D, I don't have much room to push the colors. You might have extra room if you shoot 4:2:2 10-Bit codecs, so if you're not shooting 10-Bit, that might help. Otherwise, I would try to get the look you want in camera.
Thanks for the comparison video, I gave you thumbs up. Question please. How is the auto focusing on the Panasonic versus the Canon? I don't think I heard you mention about AF on your 5 points. Just about every review I've ever seen on Panasonic cameras say auto focusing is poor to un-usable. Just curious.
During bright exterior shots, I couldn't tell which camera was better, but I gave the edge to the Canon. However, once I got into really low light, the Panasonic CX10 did better at autofocus. You can see that test here: ua-cam.com/video/-9kC8sN15Hs/v-deo.html
13:42 - I have 105 hours of operation time (under menu > Information) on the HC-X2000. There is a faster way of turning on this camera. Don't press the power button to turn it off, just close the monitor and tuck away the viewfinder. Now you can open the monitor or viewfinder and the camera automatically powers on, this is remembered even after a battery change.
I could not justify the Canon's asking price. I thoroughly did my research prior to choosing the HC-X2000. I even found out that you can't use the viewfinder and monitor at the same time on the NX80. For my use case (outdoors in good light), the HC-X2000 was the upgrade from the AX53 I had waited years for. Also, when recording a DSC Labs ChromaMatch Pro chart, I found the HC-X2000 to be the most color accurate camera I have. Panasonic really gave the small sensor some attention. Larger sensors have their place but finally a modern, pro level tiny sensor camcorder.
Canon design comes from when it had a micro cassette tape, for some reason they have staid with the bulge where it was located.
Between XF400 and XA70, both only record 420 8-Bit, which one do you suggest ?
The XF400 is discontinued as far as I know, so the XA70 is the one I suggest since the XF400 will probably not offer any firmware updates from Canon.
12:30 Amazing how the canon Vixia G30/G40/G50/XA20/XA30/XA40 have f/1.8 to 2.8 and 20x optical Zoom. Panasonic should do something similar
Hi VG, How would you compare CX 10 to new Canon XA 70/75 ?
I haven't tested the XA70 yet, but it can't be that different from the XA50 because all the other models have been similar despite the upgrades, so I'm assuming the results will be close to the XF400/XA50. The most important difference in my opinion is the 422 10-bit codec that Canon refuses to give us in their lower end cameras. If they gave us both 422 10-bit and Clog 2, I would stick with Canon.
@@VideoGizmology VG, Thank you for answer. So if I want buy now camcorder, which one now is on top of the list? Which camcorder I should buy?
There aren't a lot of options for traditional lower budget camcorders. Only Canon has updated their models recently, so if you want the newest tech, get an XA70. I personally like the Panasonic X1500/2000/CX10 lineup. Those cameras are good for most situations except for low light. Sony hasn't updated their camcorders in 5 years and they still cost the same price, so I don't buy Sony's camcorders, but their mirrorless cameras are great. I recommend the ZV-1 as a UA-cam camera.
@@VideoGizmology Wow, thank you very much.
what do you think is the best 4k 60fps camcorder right now?
Right now, the best 4K 60fps camcorder (not DSLR or mirrorless) is the Canon XF605, but the average consumer probably doesn't have $4,500 to buy the XF605, so the next one down is the Panasonic CX10/X2000/X1500 series. The cheapest of the best 4K 60fps camcorders is the Panasonic X1500, which is nearly the same as the CX10 as far as image quality goes.
Then there are always action cameras like the GoPro, Osmo Action, or Insta360 models that can do 4k at 60fps or more, but you are stuck with the action camera look and features.
I would also include the latest iPhone and Android smartphones on this list , too. An iPhone 13 Pro shoots pretty good 4k 60fps video.
@@VideoGizmology What about the XF400, would it still be worth getting a used one over the XC10 or X2000? I have found a deal for a used XF400 for 1400$.
@@Mihhailv $1400 is a good price for a used XF400. I'd say go for it if you like Canon.
@@VideoGizmology I'd love to see a direct video comparison between the pricey Canon XF605 and one of the Panasonic CX10/X2000 etc..any video on youtube I can watch? I wish I could afford the XF605...the Xf400 second hand is cheap now and I think the image quality would be the same as the XF605 but it lacks controls I find so useful on my ancient XF300...thanks
I'd like to see that comparison, too. Hardly anyone on UA-cam would buy those two specific cameras, though. On paper, the XF605 should look a lot better than the XF400 because of the 422 10-bit codec and Log, but from the footage I've seen online, it doesn't look that noticeable, especially as the XA70 is around the corner. My next purchase might be the XA70 or the Panasonic HC-X2, which both appear to be interesting 1 inch camcorders packed with features.
Great comparison. I debated last year on either XF400, NX80, or HC-X2000. I shoot primarily in day light. The HC-X2000 is what I chose. I even got bokeh with that tiny sensor, check out my test footage: ua-cam.com/video/FuwTB8BdkMo/v-deo.html