For those wondering why Sung Win Joo is so similiar to Saitama, its because the author of solo levelling is a one punch man fan and he references one punch man a lot
@@echidnanatsuki882they both became the strongest from the weakest. No one can stand against them in a fight. Has some kind of relationship with a god. The different thing is people in opm world do not know about Saitama's strength and in solo leveling world people know, and the other was one has hair other doesn't
Sorry but you wouldn’t want a keyboard that powerful, you would need to apply a force equal to a full out sprint to even type don’t think you want a keyboard like that
@@SpeedyDenis I do. I would auction it as soon as it's in my possession. If a unique Cheeto was sold for 99,000 on eBay I can't imagine what this computer would bring in.
Sung Jin Woo: "...How did you get that strong?" Saitama: "100 push-ups, 100 pull-ups, 100 sit-ups, 10km every damn day!" Sung Jin Woo: "...So you're also system user?" Saitama: "System?"
the problem with saitama is that his power is unpredictable. His power level is always if not going to be higher than his opponents. This is actually demonstrated with cosmic Garou when he gets toe to toe with Saitama. When Garou adapts Saitama Simply adapts faster. He is like an endgame boss you are not meant or literally cannot defeat
I have to point out that while Saitama's strength had a startpoint against his fight against Garou before scaling seemingly infinitely, Saitama's durabity has always been higher. If we read his fight with Garou (the highest tier fight in the series thus far), we can notice that Saitama still took NO DAMAGE from all of Garou's attacks. Which means that we can't equally scale Saitama's durability with his Power Output as he might as well be invincible.
@@whygiveup11 lol, he never admitted to taking damage? Even the "narrator" didn't say anything about Saitama taking damage. Heck, there isn't even a visual of him taking damage, unless you're gonna include dirt, scratches and ripped clothing as damage 💀
I've covered the actual conversation between saitama Tario and garou. The context of that conversation was talking about damage@@GuyLogen he literally allows garou to strike him in the face in front of tario to show him that he couldn't hurt him. And after getting struck in the face in front of tario saitama literally said see he can't scratch me. By saitama doing that saitama made it very clear that the conversation was about being hurt. And if you sit here and deny that blatantly obvious context. Then at this point you might as well scream at the top of your lungs that you are biased and purposely ignoring what the conversation was about. Fast forward when saitama got a taste of his own medicine from Garou going into saitama Mode. Saitama literally says aww man and I made a big deal about telling that kid I wouldn't get a scratch on me. He is literally referring back to the conversation that him and tario had about actually getting hurt. Saitama saying aww man and I went and made a big deal about telling that kid I wouldn't get a scratch on me is saitama literally admitting to taking damage the context does not lie biased people like you sit here and try to deny it. Saitama 100% admitted to taking damage and your bias behind sitting here denying it isn't going to change that fact. Saitama literally admitted to taking damage. So your opinion literally doesn't matter here stick to the actual context and not what you want it to be.
@@GuyLogenand the narrator doesn't need to confirm that saitama took damage when saitama literally confirms it himself. This man even wiped his nose and you had a smudge coming directly from his nose making it blatantly obvious that he took damage but you people are so biased that y'all are sitting here talking about some nope I don't see the damage. Saitama would have reacted this way if he took damage it would have been made a big deal if he took damage. While in actuality y'all are ignoring his reaction to damage. Y'all came up with this head Cannon and y'all done convinced y'all selves that it's supposed to be this magical big deal when saitama actually takes damage. Drop the head Cannon.
The good thing about Saitama is... *He wouldn't kill Sung Jin Woo" Saitama knows who to eradicate. He didn't even killed Manako becasue she's a good monster *Edit: Guys are arguing about Saitama vs. Sung Jin Woo lmao. I want those two to hang out and be friends cause that's what Saitama unconsciously does!
saitama would actually holds sung jinwo because he is a literal shadow and saitama can touch anything without problem just like what he did to garou's hyperspace gate without putting effort saitama would completely defeat him because before jinwo regenerate hes already gone😂
@@richardbelga2580 jinwoo solos opm verse jinwoo can't die if you kill him he comes back stronger this guy is a Saitama meat rider jinwoo solos this shouldn't even be debated
Ive read solo leveling twice, sht was so good I was reading it at work whenever there was a dead minute, itll be fun to hear the matchup even knowing where it goes. It wouldbe interesting to see some of the S rank hunters or big characters versusthe S rank heroes tho, even if opm-verse is quite a bit over solo leveling overall
Tatsumaki could probably keep up with Sung Jin Woo during his first fight with the dragon monarch, considering both had planetary destructive feats. I'm just not sure if Tatsu has enough AoE damage for millions of undying soldiers
I think that both of them have high planetary levels of AP (maybe a bit lower for tats) but she still has a massive speed advantage over him so if she can kill him before he regenerates, then she would win.
@@creamythecat8258monarchs lose their powers when travelling to lower dimensions and no, Sung at that point could only be damage by existence erasure or conceptual attacks.
@@rain-mk6mfno its not the case remember the fight btw sung and the dragon king that says he cab defeat sung at that time its just the rulers finish dragon king first And its still not confirm that he is the strongest remember the strongest ruler who have the jug of reincarniation and reverse time can just reverse time where sung is just a child and kill him And sung is in mutiple death die condition its just he have mc plot armor who protect him 😊 😊 While saitama is beyond concept of a mc or overpower
True.. This is my main problem with fights that happen between franchises. Their fans are rabies infected animals that will tear each other a new hole for having a slightly different opinion.
@@KaiMole-lc2rn "you're the only one who can use god's power without his influence" So ye, he can pretty much just imagine it if he's even aware of his power
Bro has ki in him but did not learn how to use it. While garou uses I his martial art fist of flowing water crushed rocks. I'm only guessing this due to that fact that it produces blue colour and also strong enough to defend and attack against very strong opponents....
The problem with saitama is that there are two versions of him. 1. The murata version who has no upper limit to his strength. Meaning he can get stronger nonstop. Like goku if he had no limiter. 2. The one version where he not only doesn't have no limiter but also has all stats on infinity. Meaning he is infinitely more powerful than anyone including murata saitama. Therefore, depending on the version of saitama used if both characters sre bloodlusted than sung jin woo will either survive fir a while or be wiped from existence in 1 hit.
@@OrRaino no it's webcomic Saitama his default stats are maxed out. But murata made a 'better' Saitama ig. We are just reading a Saitama whose stats aren't maxed out but maxing out every moment. Much more cool in my opinion
Massive fan of both series and I personally think if both just purely wanted to stand their ground and fight to the death Saitama wins no doubt but if it is a long term battle with no restrictions to location Sung Jin Woo can easily not loss but staying out of his way
It's the opposite. Saitama would lose if he got one-shot by someone or else, he would get stronger massively than them to the point that he could One-punch
u understand that saitama is jus 1 person. It only says "He gets stronger the more the battle rages on." because, of his ARMY, and other ARMIES. Not that the entirety of his strength does.
Finally someone points out that the Monarchs were planetary at best and that the Supreme Being was never meant for combat. I love Jinwoo but people wank him way too much. The Supreme Being even had to rely on limited use artifacts for a lot of its power, and it's even thought that being killed by the Monarchs was part of its plan and what it wanted.
Nope nope. You were right until. The Supreme being created those limited use artifacts. The rulers were the ones that had to rely on them because they didn't possess the abilities or powers the Supreme being had. He ligit created everything we know and love in solo leveling. He just couldn't use his powers for combat which is why he died to the rulers. And even then it took all the rulers to kill him except Ashbourne who was the strongest and again it took the rulers ganging up on ashbourne to beat him.
Thomas in sl stated that any of the 3 of the dragons that Sung jin woo has at its disposal can wipe out the entire world Also Sung jin woo in Solo leveling ragnarok has achived true immortally and is fighting these beings called the "outer gods" that can basically eat planets or something
Crazy lowball given that the outer gods (same race as the supreme being) predated the concepts of space and time. They also created their own infinite space-time continuums (universes). While jinwoo is both relative and true becomes true death (type 5 immortality). Let's not forget that even someone like beru was able to traverse the universe in Ragnarok. Which is infinite in size, It's a hard stomp in Jinwoo's favour. The monarchs being planetary is a comedic lowball. The earth was enhanced by the fragments of light. In the LN (not Ragnarok) sung jinwoo is able to manipulate his infinite shadow realm (each monarch have their own realm). This alone would put him at high uni, given that he's able to freely 'affect' and 'manipulate' said realm. Saitama's fight with garou was in the galaxy-multi galaxy ranges. He was at full power, not increasing his reserves, but his maximum output. Which scales him to around multi-galaxy. At best, you can argue uni+ with the help of Garou. But it's pretty clear that saitama gets folded instantly
@@Judgement00 I hope it's not too much longer before the power scaling community stops pretending that having any effect over or control over an "infinite" space time automatically correlates to literally infinite attack power and infinite durability. It's explicitly stated that the monarchs had "more than enough power" to destroy the Absolute Being because they were created to fight, yet a portion of the Absolute Being's power created the Cup of Reincarnation, which is able to directly go against the flow of time. And yet the monarchs and rulers are not capable of going against the flow of time, they can only retain their memories from when it happens. It's almost like power to manipulate the universe and fighting power aren't always the same thing. And Earth was attacked and hit with massive battles many times before it was fully reinforced with mana. That was the world on fire that Jin Woo saw, the future that had already happened before the Cup was used. Even without mana, the Earth wasn't completely obliterated. It was "ravaged", and humanity was wiped out.
Sung Jin Woo has his very own infinite dimension, the Territory of Eternal Rest which he has complete control over. That alone is enough to beat Saitama. Sung Jin Woo also can erase ppl from existence. Saitama has no answer to this, so he gets washed
@@Haslerka_0 As you say, Saitama with feats can be scaled up to 5D, but also with immeasurable speed, while with statements, he is boundless or above. Why? ONE wrote in Volume 2 of OPM that Saitama "obtained invincible power and such strength he can defeat any opponent, however strong, with one punch". The author here tells you that Saitama's power is always a one-shot level higher than any amount of strength and that power of his is invincible, meaning impossible to overcome. And this isn't true only "in-verse" as that's literally how strong he is. If he was strong enough to blow up a planet, you'd accept that and use it crossverse, if he was strong enough to destroy a universe, you'd accept it and use it crossverse, now that the author tells you he is this strong, why take that away from the character? He isn't invincible because he always wins in his story, he is invincible because that's literally how powerful he is, as the author himself tells you
Bro my gf and me JUST talked about this match up (I asked her to discuss it since i recently got interested in solo leveling, while she already read solo leveling and i read opm)
We sadly didn't really come to a proper conclusion, since my gf didn't want to spoil me on jin woos powers, but she also said she wasn't sure if jin woo could withstand planet destroying attacks (she read the manhwa for solo leveling not the novel)
@@Trolololol123 yeah manhwa jinwoo is a flashy flash victim tbh, but LN Jin-woo should be able to hang with people like tatsumaki or monster garou (3rd form)
Sung Jin Woo didn't train to the point he gets bald from the same training. That should sums it up. But no I love both of them in their perspective universe, no need to compare them.
I understand that his exponential growth hike was only during the emotional upsurge. But even then saitama has more to show than just what he was able to show against garou, we have seen garou push him lil but we haven't seen someone stronger than him push him
Exactly, it was always made clear that Saitama has incredible control of the amount of power he uses. And that "growth" graph was just showing the power Saitama was using compared to Garou's level. Plus with just one hand, even the glove on the hand he was holding Geno's core was unscratched. Though, probably not even Saitama knows his true power as that was the only moment ever he was able to go that far safely. But he was really confident that Garou wasn't even close to him.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928dude got 0 damages from gama ray burst you know that's the strongest attack natural occurring in the entire known universe flying past billions of kms capable of destroying everything in it's path.
@@Mask691I think they are joking, we all saitama is comparable Goku, so Jinwoo doesn't have that much of a chance Edit: now that I read the novel I know Jinwoo defeats Goku.
I feel like Saitama takes the cake here. Here’s something’s I want to point out. When saitama clashed with cosmic garou, blast and his friends redirected an held back the attack. Also it’s debatable that Saitama didn’t use his full powers because after they landed on Jupiter’s moon saitama stated “At least I can let loose”, meaning that Saitama didn’t us his full power when clashing with cosmic garou. When cosmic garou copied saitama, he was using blasts gravity manipulation and made saitamas serous punches stronger. That means Saitama was adapting so quick that even with Garous copying abilities to make Saitama’s punches stronger, saitama was still out growing him that fast. Finally when saitama sneezed Jupiter we really didn’t get to see saitamas full strength. When Saitama serous fart back to garou saitama defeated him with a normal punch. Then the reverse causality punch that defeated cosmic garou. Forgot to mention Saitama was using one arm the entire fight.
A point i want to add. In 2 different instances, Murata has agreed that both Saitama and Cosmic Garou are Universal. And infinitely exponential growth scaling ontop of that makes Saitama Universal+ to Multiversal(+)
No it doesn't bro. Saitama only grew that much because of his strong emotions with genos. Plus sung jin woo is literally multiversal minimum and outer maximum so saitama gets no diffed. Btw sung jin woo no diffed a outer god that was stated to have created his own multiverse and were stronger than the absolute being
I don't care what anyone says no body can hurt or kill this man except the author of the Manga, if Saitama scales to infinity there is no limit to how strong he can become even to a person that has multiversal defense. Enough strikes and sung I'd gonna end up like boros and garo. Both where heavily durable but could never hurt or out class him. These matchups be trolling hard honestly.
The real Saitama scales to infinity my guy. Murata made it a somewhat serious version cause webcomic Saitama was just too strong. Murata kept his infinity potential but made his strength ambiguous meaning confusing the readers. Webcomic Saitama sweeps almost all characters.
Nice video as always Yacine... But you forgot that current Saitama is eons of time stronger than the Saitama that fought Garou. Saitama said it himself that he has the strength to one shot his yesterday self... And if we actually calc Saitama of now who merged with the Saitama of that Garou fight and apply this statement from Saitama himself. Then it's not far fetched to say Saitama is Universal at this point... But this is very tricky... So yea. And damn. Your Sung scaling seems to be the most accurate I've seen. Some people have him at Multiversal. Good Video as always. And yea. Solo Leveling seems to be heavily inspired by OPM
I know, many people sleep on saitamas passive growth rate, even him during his fight with monster garou should've been galaxy level due to him being at least star level against boros.
Jin woo scale to multiversel because he stated to alone fight with outer god's who can create universe. But when it's compare to saitama I highly doubt anyone can defeat saitama
Even if Sung is universal+, Saitama's current feats put him at 4/5D. He could destroy and interact with hyperspace gates (which aren't subspace gates because Blast said in chapter 166 that he'd use them to transfer Garou to another dimension, meaning the portals offer interdimensional travel which is what hyperspace gates do), hear into God's mental-like dimension twice, travel from one timeline to another with sheer movement (which is a 5D feat according to String Theory), and make Genos' core completely insusceptible to time trying to merge it with its past counterpart. Murata even confirmed from ONE that Saitama deviated from the laws of his universe, which means he's above space and time, aka 5D. This last statement can be found in his twitter and was posted on May 7th, 2019
@@sauce8148Sub-space gates are 3D since they can only wrap space in our Universe. While Hyperspace can wrap other dimensions, like other parallel Universes or Multiverses.
Sung Jin Woo has his very own infinite dimension, the Territory of Eternal Rest which he has complete control over. That alone is enough to beat Saitama. Sung Jin Woo also can erase ppl from existence. Saitama has no answer to this. Sung Jin woo can b scaled much higher than universal+ due to him being far superior to all the Rulers who killed the Absolute Being who created everything in Solo Leveling, including the "Gap Between Dimensions" and the Monarchs and Rulers which are higher existences, making them at least 4D if not higher
@@anwardegoat82 Is the illustrated manhwa the official interpretation of the light novel? If so then when interpreting feats from the light novel that may be contentious and/or unclear the feat should be referenced from the manhwa.
@@anwardegoat82 yk it's unfair if we taking Jin Woo from the light novel which is not canon if that's how you want to play then let's get Terra 2 Saitama here or Web Comic Saitama to let him DOGWALK Sung Jin Woo in any kind of form
The Narrative stated that even Now he is continuously Growing, but the upsurge of emotions made his exponential growth, and that is enough to surpass the growth of Cosmic Garou from Saitama's mode as shown in the graph Also, in the Data Books, Saitama was able to casually One-Punch his yesterday self on a simulation
The insane growth he experienced during the Cosmic Garou fight was due to his emotion. However, he grows continuously every day without that upsurge of emotion..
I swear to god yall would see a gag character that can beat anyone and even bend the fabric of space time casually and still somehow go like “uhhhh actually X character beats him” Like brother, no, they ain’t beating him. Unless his opponent is God with a capital G or the author himself he ain’t loosing
8:31 THANK YOU, I HAVE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THE GRAPH AND NOBODY LISTENS (at the end of the graph it was calculated at 10 sextillion times the initial value)
How did you scale Saitama's Durability? When looking at it, even Newton's rules and other physical rules won't work on him. Like when he and Garou started fighting, Garou was able to match Saitamas' strength and then destroyed even Galaxies. After that, both of them had their hands. Like The 3rd rule.
Yes it is. Lol he even farted at the speed of light. He did gag moves like grabbing, redirecting, and kicking hyperspace gate. He also broke a mind realm and entered there physically. Why is it hard to believe saitama has gag abilities or in the realm of toon power? The author himself has described saitama as nonsensical character with gag abilities.
Now I haven't read the light novel of solo leveling but I know that in the manwha Sung-Jinwoo has no limit of growth just like saitama we get told that when Norma Selna is trying to upgrade Sungs powers that he has no limit just like saitama so I would argue that none of them would be able to kill each other but ofc I'd go from the original source the LN witch I haven't read so idk but good video I love to speculate on these kinds of things so keep it up with the good work😁
sung jin woo has infinite soldiers nd infinite growth too sung=saitama and in the first place they are too nice of a person too fight each other saitama wont even care if sung just dont tick him off
@@notcbt1987it was stated saitama power is ALWAYS rising it only rises exponentially when he has an emotion surge. Therefore his has infinite strength, infinite speed, infinite everything along with his growth.
Has the strongest, Saitama, began to fight the Monarch Of Frauds, Fraud Jin-Woo, Saitama got ready to use his Normal Punch, Fraud Jin-Woo cowered in fear, Saitama then said: "Stand Proud Jin-Woo, you should have not let the AC turned on in the summer'
Imagine a hypothetical world where Sung jin woo’s shadows and even himself can harm Saitama like what the Subterraneans did to him in his dreams. This fight would be astronomically epic. Imagine Saitama one shotting Jin Woo’s shadows while they take his life bit by bit. I wonder who would win in the end
Yeah, but dont forget saitama just. . starts growing even stronger by the second in battle at that according to the fight against Cosmic Garou in the manga. So its crazy either way.
In fact, just "one 🤏 " is more than enough to defeat this jinwoo guy. Are solo leveling fanboys mature enough to understand this 🤏 symbol? no, maybe they're busy with their trash novels.
5:41 ...Dodging Lightspeed projectile/beam attacks doesn't mean that the character in question has FTL Reaction Speed. Only Sub-Relativistic, lower if the character in question has some form of supernatural instinct or precognitive abilities, or if he was already expecting it. Of course, it could be that Sung is still FTL - but that scene alone doesn't imply that. (PS: ffs, this is the Naruto debate all over again...)
Are you restarted or something? Dodging FTL attacks makes said character FTL, they would have to perceive and react to it. "Naruto debate all over again" Awwww you tried to lie and downplay them too? Naruto's been FTL since Part 1 and Sung Jin Woo is well above FTL. Your a clown.
@choppyhakusho You know what, I don't even want to argue with this guy. "You're right." Now be happy knowing you "won" another useless debate on the internet by being stubborn and calling random people 'retarded'.
You forgot he has control over the concept of death his shadow army is basically immortal as long as he has magic and he has infinite sung jin woo has fate manipulation had you can argue for outer in the light novel😂❤
@@aaronvargas8038 you know, I could argue with you for hours on end on how saitama has an anti cheat mechanism making it physically impossible to actually cheat your way to kill him or how the universal feats are completely based on words with nothing that actually matches to universal and how his army of 10 billion doesn't actually mean anything if they get wiped out from a sneeze and how saitama is basically indestructible but something power scaler need to realize is that, they aren't real, completely fiction, we should be comparing how good the writing is or how interesting characters are instead of strength as this argument will go on and on without resolve, since this is head canon I could always go, saitama wins no concept of diff
Sung jin woo is stated in the LN as the shadow manorch with the ability to be immortal and is litteraly not bounded by death. So I think its Either a stalemate or sung claps if he traps saitama in his dimension then one shots him as he has control over death itself in it.
saitama is much faster than sung, plus his ability to play around with 4d-5d would pretty much render the dimension useless cuz saitama can just punch the dimension away. and again, sung jin woo loses this even if hes immortal
Someone on tiktok comment section being bias I'm glad atleast you are honest and giving the 2 characters credit and not being bias, I'm glad someone on UA-cam did this video with a good reasoning to, explaining this I've sent the person a link you your video and type your name if they didn't want to copy it I wanna see how they explain to me how jin woo wins.
Next time, put the proper words before the initials for those who don't know what HCLW is - Hard Core Leveling Warrior. You were given a name first before you got your nick, unless it is otherwise.
@@Kikikikenokeno with that logic sung jin woo is shadow monarch on his story. human anywhere else. saitama still beats as a simple human he beat a monster
@thefool5302 you are wrong. people hate opm fans cause they know saitama whooses their goku doom slayer and godzilla are also made with the same logic.
@@scientist368no people hate him because people won’t set aside the gag factor for a serious conversation so there is not point to talking about it with them
@thefool5302he is a gag charcter bro, he is made to 1 shot any charcter you cant compare him at all with other charcters because its unfair, saitama will 1 shot zenos as a gag if they do a crossover
There's a little error at 2:55 , the Monarchs, therefore the Rulers too, can destroy the Earth; the reason why they are preparing armies and gates is to fight the Rulers on Earth. And to prepare the Earth as a battlefield, the Rulers spawn gates so the planet can withstand the battle and awakened humains so they can survive (although a small perrcentage).
I ended up reading the entire Solo Leveling Manhwa after watching the first episode of the anime and I've only read a portion of One Punch Man manga. Jinwoo is strong but I don't think it's anywhere near Saitama. Saitama is hust ridiculously broken.
just remember that, when saitama broke free from phoenix mans dimension which exists in his mind only, that's space manipulation, being able to defy the laws of space, therefore or having unlimited power. If Sung Jinwoo creates a universe where Saitama hadn't trained, Saitama would break the fourth wall, such as in chapter 194 of OPM,, Saitama broke the fourth wall after finding Manako (flashlight monster) in about 3 chapters, when Flashy Flash asks him how much time it took him to find her. He simply replied with "In about 3 panels" So that makes him aware that he is in a manga/ fictional world. Therefore, When Jin woo makes a universe, Saitama can simply break the readers/ watcher's screen.
Even the most powerful devil/monster in the underworld can't even breathe in space. If someone want to fight Saitama, at least they have the ability to breathe in space🗿
Not really as Manga already showed it, he even needed help from his dimensional friends to redirect garous and Saitamas blast that tore a hole in the universe and also that in said fight, he was outclassed by cosmic fear garou and even was copied by him. So yeah, he is not on the same level as Saitama, much less garou, even his black holes would be kicked like what Saitama did to garous hyperspace gates.
Well, you are wrong, but Blast is really stronger than most people think. Remember, than Saitama and Garou punched each over with full power, Blast was able to open a portal and teleport them to space before their punches were finished which means Blast is faster than Saitama and Garou together.
In One Punch Man world where the concept of "The Limiter", Which is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being, stated by Genius. The scientist, According to his theory, states that "immense and overwhelming power, becomes unbearable for one's body and eventually, they become mindless, crazed monsters. To prevent this from happening, God imposed a limit on the growth of all living beings." The concept of removing "The Limiter" in this world mean if a character managed to surpass this imposed limiter without succumbing to madness, their power would likely be immeasurable. They could possess unparalleled physical strength, speed, and endurance, as well as an extraordinary capacity for learning and growth. In terms of abilities, they might have the potential to manipulate reality, time, and space, and could possess an incredible regenerative ability. Their mental prowess could enable them to comprehend and process information at an unprecedented rate, possibly even granting them psychic or telekinetic abilities. The impact of such a character like Saitama on the world would be immense. They could reshape societies, alter the course of history, and potentially even challenge the very fabric of the universe itself which he infact did do. So this means Saitama have no restriction to what he can do and have bc in this scenario, the Saitama would essentially be without limits, both physically and mentally. His potential for power and abilities would be unrestricted, allowing him to achieve feats far beyond the capabilities.
For them who want monarch's tiering Pinnacle of monarch : jin woo, antares, ashborn High monarch: baran ( real one), Mid monarch : beasty fang, ternak, Frost monarch, monarch of transforgution Low monarch: legia, monarch of plague
Ill be honest here, and say that Saitama being a Gag Character who has the developement of whatever the authors feels like. Plus the series is no were close to being finished so Saitama has potential to grow. Solo leveling was a fun watch and from what i understand from this analysis, Sung Jin Woo has a pretty good kit to win this one. Great work
Well OPM will get behind i feel, the story revolves more on side character which is why i like it more than a one sided story of some anime forgeting the side character and just pour everything on one specific Character. Surely Solo Leveling will get into a God shit level before OPM does but if we scale it on stages and progress Saitama wins no doubt.
People forget that Saitama is a satire character. Hiw whole arc is that he feels nothing anymore, and as exchange he receives unlimited power during his training. So, in his universe he can't and will not be defeated as his adaptation to a powerful foe is always higher. You may throw him Boros, Cosmic Garou, God and still he will be unfazed. Saitama character represent the end-game, its like you play a game , complete all main and side quests and now just wandering through vast and empty field of emotions, and nothing makes you feel the game anymore. That is, if you face something different, and in Saitama's perspective, its a strong opponent that never will shows up.
buddy read the manga it is written that kid wanted garou not to be killed by S class heroes and when Saitama saw that he promised him that he will defeat garou and bring him back while making sure garou is not dead in the process.👈
My guy sung jinwoo had to repeat his power grind because he couldn't kill a dragon; Saitama sleeps through dragon level threats and has an entire organization of them living beneath his apartment building
as said even if we say jin to be universal which i completely disagree on saitama would still have speed advantage and would not get hit even once even if he gets hit i dont think that would take him down, so then its just a matter of time till he adapts to jin woo with the usiversal power and demolish him at the end. saitama is not losing in any way shape or form.
Bro but he didn't show feats and if he did have infinite strength why didn't he one shot garou when he did that to genos. And don't say cuz he didn't want to destroy the universe. Cuz he literally was about to destroy earth if not for blast teloporting
Not even close yang kai wins he's a god that controls space and a little time, he's also a dragon that is in control of universes that also gives him power
I can never understand people who believe creative power is the same as destructive power. Quite literally 2 different concepts. That’s like believing a healer does the same amount of damage as they heal or thinking a pure dps can tank the same amount of damage as they output. It’s like they forget that most characters min-max their “stats”
Limits restrict how much and how fast a person grows. Saitama is limitless allowing his enegry/power(or wtv term you want to use)to rise without restrictions Sung jin woo is large planetary and has mftl speeds. Sung's hax and growth is nothing to be looked down upon either. But due to saitama being limitless, he wins easily.
@@harryschwartz5957 sung has limits, it was a hyperbole due to him being able to constantly break his limits. Hes potentially outer due to him being death itself, its possible, but not confirmed.
@@igflxcks8122 he does not have limits he will always continue to level and it will never stop his power will always continue to grow and with the people he's fighting in ragnarok right now he's getting even stronger
@@igflxcks8122 okay so explain to me how even in the manwha he is stated to not have a limit and can infinitely grow? No head canon just examples of it
Its only been 2 months in OPM universe, but saitama is galatic level already, i think this is not the right time to compare him to sung jin woo , lets wait till "God" arrive 😊
@@voidtempering8700 that doesn’t change nor disproves anything. Saitama was the one who did the feat. You're ignoring what the manga itself has said. Garou even stated saitama is the only one who can master gods power even without touching Gods hand. The manga stated saitama has transcended space time on multiple occasion such as in the time travel narrator stated that saitama crossed space-time & travelled throught another timeline. Saitama was standing on the 5 dimensional plane of existence where he was able to view an infinite branches of realities which then he chooses a specific timeline & jumped on it and performed zero punch feat. This punch was launched from a higher temporal dimension beyond the linear time within the universe. The punch was so fast that it landed on garou before it would've thrown basically it’s the 5D where anyone can hit you before they would launch an attack. Simply, stack on that in chapter 169 the narrator himself said "the punch landed on garou before it was thrown." let me tell you one thing before going on the scale, causality=time. Causality means cause & effects meaning when there's something caused it also do effect. In order to be beyond space-time you have be above cause & effect. Now in the manga, saitama's punch landed on garou before it was thrown meaning the punch affected on garou before it was caused. Meaning the punch was above causality therefore it also means the punch had to travel beyond the space time. All this grants him 5D AP & immresureble speed
their universses are different and power scaling is different. but I think saitama's power doesn't have any reliable explanation. like it's logically impossible.. btw... that was not a ordinary planet earth , it was highly enchanted by the high class magical power... and now sung has his own shadow army of millions of dragons and beasts ... each dragon was capable to destroy a city at once.. think about millions of them...
One of my fav feats from Saitama is when garou tries to evade Saitama's omnidirectional serious punch by going through a portal, but before even garou enters the portal saitama was already on the other side. Saitama literally ran around Jupiter's moon in a split second (WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE OMNIDIRECTIONAL SERIOUS PUNCH AFTERIMAGES) just to find the other side of the portal the moment he saw garou spawn one.
What do you mean "even" cosmic garou? He's so strong only like the top 5 in his verse can avoid just getting stomped by him. (Saitama, God, Blast??, Boros??)
Nah, he is high Multiversal+ level at best. Goku is easily complex Multiversal level. Dragon Ball high-tier characters are easily highly complex Multiversal and Hyperversal level
As someone who loves solo leveling, saitama slams, sung dripwoo doesnt have the ability to dodge deflect or block punches that literally have an effect THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY
Saitama can kill the shadow soilders by one punch bt he can't erase single of them. They can regenarate from nothingness.. U haven't read the solo leveling ragnarok..The abselute being has created countless universes not one universe so he is 2-B not 3-A.. And the outer gods are stated to be stronger the abselute being so they are probably 2-A or maybe low 1-C since they exist outside the multiverse of solo leveling that was created by the abselute being so they are 5d beings. And jin woo is now on par with outer gods so he is at least high multi means 2-A.. And another thing.. Jin had ftl+ speed when he was fighting with the architect at that time his level was 101 and we know jin woo can exponentialy grow like saitama when he is in the system.. So when was fighting with morachs at the level of 146 his all stats also grew exponentialy means his speed was mftl+ at that time. And after gaining powers from ashborn his all stats are infinite.. Means infinite stamina, inaccesible speed..
the creator of the vid didn't use ragnarok, since that's whole different show (a lot of retcon) and thus there is no actual feat of absolute being become 5D. as he shown to lose to rulers which isn't even scaled to 4D. consider how Rulers ≈ Monarch. And the strongest monarch Was only capable Launches an attack that only SOL so AB should be relative the same. watch the video bro, they literally shown that there is no thing such as infinite power. (funny how you write those a lot but didn't even fully watch the vid😂)
@@bocahpintar2gt neither the creator of this video have read the LN nor u.. Both of u are using some stats and scans from vsbattlewiki. The average humans are 3D.. When rulers used cup of reincarnation all humans forgot everything bt rulers and monarchs didn't forget anything.. Surely they are at least 4D beings.. The creator didn't mention jin woo shook heaven which was infinite in size so he is 3-A by that feat alone.. He didn't mention antares can destroy the entire universe of SL and survive it from the outside of it.. So if u scale the SL universe 3-A , then jin woo has 3-A attack potency.. And if u scale the universe 2-B then jin woo has 2-B attack potency. Jin woo also tanked breath of destruction which is existence erusure like hakai. It was capable of erasing anything in the universe. It even erased jin woo's immortal soldiers from existence which were capable of regenerating from nothingness.. Yet jin woo tanked it with his bare hand means jin woo has Universal+ durability.. And ashborn meant no one is omnipotent.. Bt there's nothing to do with speed /stamina.. Anyone who is unbound from the flow of linear time, Has immeasurable speed.. At the end of Solo Leveling, he achieved "Acausality," an ability that grants him immunity from the concept of time in any and every way. In other words, Sung Jin-Woo transcends time as the entity doesn't affect him. So his speed is immeasurable.. Jin woo fought in the dimensional rift for 27 years straight. He was helping his soldiers to regenerate continuously by using his mana means stamina yet jin woo wasn't exhausted a bit.. Hasn't shown any fatigue whatsoever after the fight.. So it's possible he has infinite stamina..
@@imaryan5697 Sung jin woo didn't even exist in vsbw🤯elaborate how the heaven is infinite in size. Ain't no way antares able to destroy the universe with Sol speed😂Also when does survive outside of it scale you anything? Also how tf acausality Grant you speed💀And if SJW trascend time then i suppose he doesn't need item to rewind back time? Ashborn statment also saying that there is no such as infinite, So all of those infinite you said is debunked. Also I don't see how antares was able to destroy the universe consider how Fight between Monarch was only stated to able destroy the Earth. -Keyword : "Possible"
@@imaryan5697 How using cup of reincarnation grant you 4D😭😭So what if they remember it? Does you even know how DIMENSIONAL work? If so explain it. Tank EE is a great feat, but i don't see any how it is supposed to help anything since it just grants you resistance.
@@imaryan5697 "Possible" 'Well then saitama also possible to be outversal if the opponent Grant time to growths' so in other conclusion Saitama is possible to be outversal. Stop the cap bro, antares can't destroy the universe considering most of his attack was only stated to move in Speed of Light. Yeah he could destroy but it would take infinite time since those slow attack ain't reaching the universe😂 There is no such thing as infinite stamina, like literally ashborn state that there is no infinite. Also how there are no signs of exhausted could scale to infinite stamina😭This logic literally could work on saitama since he's also shown the same feat -Edit : Also since when SJW exist in vsbw☠️They literally nuke every post of him since most of his fan would wank him more than saitama fan did. so Stop saying something that's not even exist bro
Sun jin woo after trillions of years of prep time with more advanced system will probably be 1% of Saitama's power...Bro you can't compare Saitama with anyone in any anime verse... Author of OPM didn't make a power limit on Saitama and also Saitama power increase exponentially while fighting god level threat just like when he fought with Garou
Sung Jinwoo would slam with no diff, Jinwoo controls the infinite land of the dead which would be infinite power. Jinwoo would also be similar if not faster than Saitama as demonstrated by him dodging a light based attack earlier in the story and only growing exponentially.
Phoenix Man does the same. But got No diff by Saitama accidentally 🤣 Dodging light-based attacks is common in the OPM world, even Genos in season 2 episode 1 can do it. It doesn't matter if he is a God or something, their titles won't do anything in power comparison, even Saitama could beat the God of his entire verse.
We can't really based sung jin woo's strength and compare it to saitama based on how wide the area of destruction he can make. Remember, the battle between monarchs and rulers have already destroyed the earth seven times. So the rulers had to upgrade the earth by infusing mana into its entire structure to make it 100x sturdier than the normal earth. Everything in it, the trees and mountains are a lot durable.
That's pretty fallacious and subjective lol, it was never mentioned that they infused mana, it was only said that they made humanity familiarize mana so when the time comes for the rulers and monarchs to fight, the strong hunters can survive. And saying it's 100x sturdier was a funny joke, a part of me thought you were a comedian
In current Solo leveling Ragnarok sung Jin woo Stated to fought outer gods who create multiple universe. So in terms of scale jin woo scale higher. But in a battle saitama destroy everyone including Dbz, sl, Beach and most of the vers
Even if Jinwoo could scale higher, there's nothing he can do to actually damage Saitama. You would need a hax ability like Whis to be able to just erase existence.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Jin woo can manipulate existence with he's eternal rest but it only works on he's own vers and that domain. So he cannot erase saitama but he's completely immortal no matter how many times he died he always comes back so it would good to see how saitama defeat him which we will only find how he will defeat opm god.
This video is almost a year old, obviously new things has been revealed for both parties that i didnt talk about in the video.
Yeah gang scale Berus speed feat of crossing from one end of to the centre of the universe
@boxingvanilla5960 saitama still slams little dawg
@@Beat4Rice nope
@ClashMasterStudios he's still stronger
@@xv47ky29 Saitama is not Beating Sun-jin woo He hasn't Reach that level of power yet if he will even Reach it
For those wondering why Sung Win Joo is so similiar to Saitama, its because the author of solo levelling is a one punch man fan and he references one punch man a lot
Besides the Training Regement that both of them follow, what are the other references?
i saw exact similar saitama and jin woo
@@echidnanatsuki882they both became the strongest from the weakest. No one can stand against them in a fight. Has some kind of relationship with a god. The different thing is people in opm world do not know about Saitama's strength and in solo leveling world people know, and the other was one has hair other doesn't
@@echidnanatsuki882 in one of the epilogue chapters his son makes a face similar to the one saitama makes when he's doodled
Ahh yess seems legit
Btw, Saitama was never weak..
Even in the first chapter when he defeated that Crab guy. That feat alone would put him at low rank A hero..
Still one of the weakest , never said he was THE weakest
Saitama was beaten up by school bullies before, he was just a regular human before
@@PequenoWiltord Nah Saitama got punched into a concrete wall by a coin bank monster, he still survived but no money
The strongest hero
@@Silrak50 What you on about? He was literally beaten up by 3 bullies when he was 12
If he typed on the computer at the speed of light and the typing caught up, that’s one fast computer
No that's one durable computer. Where can I get one of those?
thats a keyboard feat and probably the strongest keyboard in all verse
HAHAHAHAH
Sorry but you wouldn’t want a keyboard that powerful, you would need to apply a force equal to a full out sprint to even type don’t think you want a keyboard like that
@@SpeedyDenis I do. I would auction it as soon as it's in my possession. If a unique Cheeto was sold for 99,000 on eBay I can't imagine what this computer would bring in.
Sung Jin Woo: "...How did you get that strong?"
Saitama: "100 push-ups, 100 pull-ups, 100 sit-ups, 10km every damn day!"
Sung Jin Woo: "...So you're also system user?"
Saitama: "System?"
also saitama did it for three years nonstop
@@kanejayetauro6800that routine is js for gag ngl, that isnt much training but just gag
@@bucket8849 Depends tbh. If any weights were involved, and he was eating the right diet. His physique makes complete sense.
@@bucket8849he ate A banana every day
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 his physich makes absoloute sense not his strenght tho
the problem with saitama is that his power is unpredictable.
His power level is always if not going to be higher than his opponents.
This is actually demonstrated with cosmic Garou when he gets toe to toe with Saitama.
When Garou adapts Saitama Simply adapts faster.
He is like an endgame boss you are not meant or literally cannot defeat
Goofy ass logic
@@kaical8273 don't bring the word logic in anime 😂
Jin woo also can’t be defeated you lack support in your argument
@@darklinter2702difference is Sung Jin Woo can't grow exponentially stronger, his strength and power have a limit. Saitama's doesn't
THAT IS GOD ABOVE ALL
@@kaical8273
I have to point out that while Saitama's strength had a startpoint against his fight against Garou before scaling seemingly infinitely, Saitama's durabity has always been higher. If we read his fight with Garou (the highest tier fight in the series thus far), we can notice that Saitama still took NO DAMAGE from all of Garou's attacks. Which means that we can't equally scale Saitama's durability with his Power Output as he might as well be invincible.
He was also fighting with only 1 hand while holding something 😂
stop saying Saitama didn't take damage when he admitted to it
@@whygiveup11 lol, he never admitted to taking damage? Even the "narrator" didn't say anything about Saitama taking damage.
Heck, there isn't even a visual of him taking damage, unless you're gonna include dirt, scratches and ripped clothing as damage 💀
I've covered the actual conversation between saitama Tario and garou. The context of that conversation was talking about damage@@GuyLogen he literally allows garou to strike him in the face in front of tario to show him that he couldn't hurt him. And after getting struck in the face in front of tario saitama literally said see he can't scratch me. By saitama doing that saitama made it very clear that the conversation was about being hurt. And if you sit here and deny that blatantly obvious context. Then at this point you might as well scream at the top of your lungs that you are biased and purposely ignoring what the conversation was about.
Fast forward when saitama got a taste of his own medicine from Garou going into saitama Mode. Saitama literally says aww man and I made a big deal about telling that kid I wouldn't get a scratch on me.
He is literally referring back to the conversation that him and tario had about actually getting hurt.
Saitama saying aww man and I went and made a big deal about telling that kid I wouldn't get a scratch on me is saitama literally admitting to taking damage the context does not lie biased people like you sit here and try to deny it.
Saitama 100% admitted to taking damage and your bias behind sitting here denying it isn't going to change that fact.
Saitama literally admitted to taking damage. So your opinion literally doesn't matter here stick to the actual context and not what you want it to be.
@@GuyLogenand the narrator doesn't need to confirm that saitama took damage when saitama literally confirms it himself.
This man even wiped his nose and you had a smudge coming directly from his nose making it blatantly obvious that he took damage but you people are so biased that y'all are sitting here talking about some nope I don't see the damage.
Saitama would have reacted this way if he took damage it would have been made a big deal if he took damage.
While in actuality y'all are ignoring his reaction to damage.
Y'all came up with this head Cannon and y'all done convinced y'all selves that it's supposed to be this magical big deal when saitama actually takes damage.
Drop the head Cannon.
the fact we have never seen saitama get hurt is a testimony on itself
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@@shanshansong1966 he didnt get hurt. thats the cats claws being shreded and leaving the dust residue on his skin.
It's bc he has fought a multiversal or more threat
ye he did . the first beast he killed before he lost his hair he got injured by that high lvl beast bot won
@monkeydluffy-g8b thats before he got his powers dipsнit
The good thing about Saitama is... *He wouldn't kill Sung Jin Woo"
Saitama knows who to eradicate. He didn't even killed Manako becasue she's a good monster
*Edit: Guys are arguing about Saitama vs. Sung Jin Woo lmao. I want those two to hang out and be friends cause that's what Saitama unconsciously does!
she was only his flashlight... he doesn't kill **monsters** who don't try to kill him
saitama would actually holds sung jinwo because he is a literal shadow and saitama can touch anything without problem just like what he did to garou's hyperspace gate without putting effort saitama would completely defeat him because before jinwo regenerate hes already gone😂
@@richardbelga2580 jinwoo solos opm verse jinwoo can't die if you kill him he comes back stronger this guy is a Saitama meat rider jinwoo solos this shouldn't even be debated
@@malangoebasomba3278alright jin woo meat rider
@@malangoebasomba3278 jinwoo meat rider first go and learn about a gag character lol ! Saitama is limitlessly strong
When have you ever seen Saitama going 100% at a fight
Not to get confused
Serious in a fight and going all out are 2 different things
At the beginning of the fight with garou
@@Lebzo100he has no max therefore no 100%. his battle with cosmic garou? the one when he is using one hand and making promise not to kill him?
@@Arcad1010he said just before fight onehanded finally i can go all out or something like that so...
@@spinothenoooob6050 that was actually a mistranslation he never said that lol try again
@@spinothenoooob6050 using one hand and promising not to kill him…. And him having no limit which means he has no max power.
The author of solo leveling made the same training for sung winjoo so that he can become limitless like Saitama xD
Different world different rules
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б bro really took it seriously 💀
I mean you’re right bc he is still leveling up getting stronger and powerful while fighting deities
Does he ever turn of the heater on winter time or the ac in summer? Did he try to turn so fast that he could see the back of his head in a mirror?
but since he hasn't trained to the point of losing all his hair, that means hes weaker ;)
I can't deny the fact that Murata reposted the tweet of tonarinoyj or smtg which clearly said there that garou could shake the universe with his fist.
*Garou has gained the power to shake the universe
*Garou has gained the power to shake the universe
@@bioy2646 🤝
@@NoodleSauceSpicy 🤝
@@bioy2646imagine a Dap up competition where Saitama and garou daps
Ive read solo leveling twice, sht was so good I was reading it at work whenever there was a dead minute, itll be fun to hear the matchup even knowing where it goes. It wouldbe interesting to see some of the S rank hunters or big characters versusthe S rank heroes tho, even if opm-verse is quite a bit over solo leveling overall
Tatsumaki could probably keep up with Sung Jin Woo during his first fight with the dragon monarch, considering both had planetary destructive feats. I'm just not sure if Tatsu has enough AoE damage for millions of undying soldiers
I think that both of them have high planetary levels of AP (maybe a bit lower for tats) but she still has a massive speed advantage over him so if she can kill him before he regenerates, then she would win.
This is my 4th time reading solo leveling. Still peak after 3 years😂
@@creamythecat8258monarchs lose their powers when travelling to lower dimensions and no, Sung at that point could only be damage by existence erasure or conceptual attacks.
@@rain-mk6mfno its not the case remember the fight btw sung and the dragon king that says he cab defeat sung at that time its just the rulers finish dragon king first
And its still not confirm that he is the strongest remember the strongest ruler who have the jug of reincarniation and reverse time can just reverse time where sung is just a child and kill him
And sung is in mutiple death die condition its just he have mc plot armor who protect him 😊 😊
While saitama is beyond concept of a mc or overpower
The entire comment section is basically just "MY Dad CaN beaT uP yOUR DAd"
True.. This is my main problem with fights that happen between franchises. Their fans are rabies infected animals that will tear each other a new hole for having a slightly different opinion.
bro just summed up every debate😂
Fr but this isn't even a debate cuz just think of this. Limitless power vs limited power. The sums it up
@@TristanGaming_1which one has limited power exactly?😂
@@TristanGaming_1I've only heard limitless power from both of them
Soy jinwoo: has to use an ancient relic in order to reverse time
Chad Saitama: just imagines it
He "copied" garou
@@KaiMole-lc2rnhe copied garou but did it himself, but i guess you could say garou taught him that…
@@KaiMole-lc2rn "you're the only one who can use god's power without his influence"
So ye, he can pretty much just imagine it if he's even aware of his power
Bro has ki in him but did not learn how to use it. While garou uses I his martial art fist of flowing water crushed rocks. I'm only guessing this due to that fact that it produces blue colour and also strong enough to defend and attack against very strong opponents....
Saitama: needs garou to time travel and forgets everything afterwards
The problem with saitama is that there are two versions of him.
1. The murata version who has no upper limit to his strength. Meaning he can get stronger nonstop. Like goku if he had no limiter.
2. The one version where he not only doesn't have no limiter but also has all stats on infinity. Meaning he is infinitely more powerful than anyone including murata saitama.
Therefore, depending on the version of saitama used if both characters sre bloodlusted than sung jin woo will either survive fir a while or be wiped from existence in 1 hit.
Ik that version one's webcomic version 💀☠️
Why this doesn't have more likes?
Are you talking about Terra 3 and 4 Saitama ? He has the power to destroy everything.
@@OrRaino no it's webcomic Saitama his default stats are maxed out. But murata made a 'better' Saitama ig. We are just reading a Saitama whose stats aren't maxed out but maxing out every moment. Much more cool in my opinion
Massive fan of both series and I personally think if both just purely wanted to stand their ground and fight to the death Saitama wins no doubt but if it is a long term battle with no restrictions to location Sung Jin Woo can easily not loss but staying out of his way
It's the opposite. Saitama would lose if he got one-shot by someone or else, he would get stronger massively than them to the point that he could One-punch
u understand that saitama is jus 1 person. It only says "He gets stronger the more the battle rages on." because, of his ARMY, and other ARMIES. Not that the entirety of his strength does.
take that pfp off if u read the light novel you'd know that Jin Woo blitzs Saitama
@@harryschwartz5957 i read both manga and manhwa, even light novel, Saitama owns the dub nigga
@@harryschwartz5957 if you watched the video sung caps at FTL not faster than saitama if your gonna argue something be right about it idiot
Power scaling other anime characters rly can do great to your channel. Absolutely loved this video
Finally someone points out that the Monarchs were planetary at best and that the Supreme Being was never meant for combat. I love Jinwoo but people wank him way too much.
The Supreme Being even had to rely on limited use artifacts for a lot of its power, and it's even thought that being killed by the Monarchs was part of its plan and what it wanted.
Nope nope. You were right until. The Supreme being created those limited use artifacts. The rulers were the ones that had to rely on them because they didn't possess the abilities or powers the Supreme being had. He ligit created everything we know and love in solo leveling. He just couldn't use his powers for combat which is why he died to the rulers. And even then it took all the rulers to kill him except Ashbourne who was the strongest and again it took the rulers ganging up on ashbourne to beat him.
Also spin offs of solo leveling are still ongoing so for a more feats on sun reading those would be good.
Thomas in sl stated that any of the 3 of the dragons that Sung jin woo has at its disposal can wipe out the entire world
Also Sung jin woo in Solo leveling ragnarok has achived true immortally and is fighting these beings called the "outer gods" that can basically eat planets or something
Crazy lowball given that the outer gods (same race as the supreme being) predated the concepts of space and time. They also created their own infinite space-time continuums (universes). While jinwoo is both relative and true becomes true death (type 5 immortality). Let's not forget that even someone like beru was able to traverse the universe in Ragnarok. Which is infinite in size, It's a hard stomp in Jinwoo's favour.
The monarchs being planetary is a comedic lowball. The earth was enhanced by the fragments of light. In the LN (not Ragnarok) sung jinwoo is able to manipulate his infinite shadow realm (each monarch have their own realm). This alone would put him at high uni, given that he's able to freely 'affect' and 'manipulate' said realm.
Saitama's fight with garou was in the galaxy-multi galaxy ranges. He was at full power, not increasing his reserves, but his maximum output. Which scales him to around multi-galaxy. At best, you can argue uni+ with the help of Garou. But it's pretty clear that saitama gets folded instantly
@@Judgement00 I hope it's not too much longer before the power scaling community stops pretending that having any effect over or control over an "infinite" space time automatically correlates to literally infinite attack power and infinite durability. It's explicitly stated that the monarchs had "more than enough power" to destroy the Absolute Being because they were created to fight, yet a portion of the Absolute Being's power created the Cup of Reincarnation, which is able to directly go against the flow of time. And yet the monarchs and rulers are not capable of going against the flow of time, they can only retain their memories from when it happens. It's almost like power to manipulate the universe and fighting power aren't always the same thing.
And Earth was attacked and hit with massive battles many times before it was fully reinforced with mana. That was the world on fire that Jin Woo saw, the future that had already happened before the Cup was used. Even without mana, the Earth wasn't completely obliterated. It was "ravaged", and humanity was wiped out.
damn, never knew they were so similar down to their workouts. cool video :D
Because one is a flying copy!
@@Metalknight101Solo leveling author laughing at broke:
@@JinOrbital what do you mean?
Saitama is invincible, so his victory is the matter of time
Only inverse
In crossverse scaling he gets destroyed
@@Haslerka_0😂😂😂😂😂
@@younessgiinfrex515???
Saitama's max scaling is 5d with wank and mftl speed that doesnt sound like invincible to me
Sung Jin Woo has his very own infinite dimension, the Territory of Eternal Rest which he has complete control over. That alone is enough to beat Saitama.
Sung Jin Woo also can erase ppl from existence. Saitama has no answer to this, so he gets washed
@@Haslerka_0 As you say, Saitama with feats can be scaled up to 5D, but also with immeasurable speed, while with statements, he is boundless or above. Why? ONE wrote in Volume 2 of OPM that Saitama "obtained invincible power and such strength he can defeat any opponent, however strong, with one punch". The author here tells you that Saitama's power is always a one-shot level higher than any amount of strength and that power of his is invincible, meaning impossible to overcome. And this isn't true only "in-verse" as that's literally how strong he is. If he was strong enough to blow up a planet, you'd accept that and use it crossverse, if he was strong enough to destroy a universe, you'd accept it and use it crossverse, now that the author tells you he is this strong, why take that away from the character? He isn't invincible because he always wins in his story, he is invincible because that's literally how powerful he is, as the author himself tells you
Haven't watched but i think saitama washes sung
Edit:guys it's been two days and all I see in my notifications is that so pls calm down
Yes because u didnt read the novel
@@orochieditzzehhh sung caps to large planetary
@@orochieditzzbooty
@@orochieditzz what was that different in the novel that it makes him stronger than saitama ?
@@orochieditzz Who tf reads the Solo Leveling novel? You must be trolling.
Bro my gf and me JUST talked about this match up (I asked her to discuss it since i recently got interested in solo leveling, while she already read solo leveling and i read opm)
SOOO WHO WON BRO? in ur opinion
You can't keep us hanging who won?
We sadly didn't really come to a proper conclusion, since my gf didn't want to spoil me on jin woos powers, but she also said she wasn't sure if jin woo could withstand planet destroying attacks (she read the manhwa for solo leveling not the novel)
@@Brot33Jin-woo in the Manhwa is a Phoenix Man victim. But LN Jin-woo has a chance against Saitama currently.
@@Trolololol123 yeah manhwa jinwoo is a flashy flash victim tbh, but LN Jin-woo should be able to hang with people like tatsumaki or monster garou (3rd form)
No amount of regeneration will save you from a "serious" sneeze.
this guy is so good at powerscaling like you can just see how much work he puts into these
This guy: Saitama vs Jinwoo isn’t even close
Also this guy: It could go either way
It's not close
Saitama one shots universal sung jin woo
Anyone who has read saitama vs God knows
saitama vs god is not canon@@shashwatmishraalumni4918
Saitama vs god isn't cannon. Terra 2 saitama would win though.
@@Furious_championthis guy: saitama vs God isn't canon
Also this guy: terra 2 saitama would win though 💩
@@sushehlasagnah406 if I don't say that the opm fans will bully me
Very objective video, you have a lot of respect for the source material as well. Can definitely tell you are a fan.
Sung Jin Woo didn't train to the point he gets bald from the same training. That should sums it up.
But no I love both of them in their perspective universe, no need to compare them.
True
I feel like people misinterpreted that “growth” statement BADLY (for Saitama)
I understand that his exponential growth hike was only during the emotional upsurge.
But even then saitama has more to show than just what he was able to show against garou, we have seen garou push him lil but we haven't seen someone stronger than him push him
@@cmon9505 yeah, he only did things that cosmic garou was doing, it was like saitama was mocking him
@@cmon9505 not to mention he was just fighting him with one hand and also was not trying to kill him since he tough he was still human ..
Exactly, it was always made clear that Saitama has incredible control of the amount of power he uses. And that "growth" graph was just showing the power Saitama was using compared to Garou's level. Plus with just one hand, even the glove on the hand he was holding Geno's core was unscratched.
Though, probably not even Saitama knows his true power as that was the only moment ever he was able to go that far safely. But he was really confident that Garou wasn't even close to him.
@@justsomeguy413 Also promised tareo not to kill garou just pointin out
People need to put saitama’s strength aside and talk about his durability and endurance more.
Exactly bro never gets tired and takes no dmg even from his own punches 😂
He can only be killed by Hakai, or whatever it is Whis can do to erase someone's existence.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928dude got 0 damages from gama ray burst you know that's the strongest attack natural occurring in the entire known universe flying past billions of kms capable of destroying everything in it's path.
@@Be_like_dr._Tenma Ehh honestly, gama ray burst is nothing compared to most of the bullshit attacks in anime
@@thelegacyofgaming2928a update that dude literally grapped a durablity negatiation dimensional slash coming from 5th dimension with 2 fingers😂
The concept of Saitama is infinite power. A meme. You can't defeat a meme.
Exactly
It looks like you don't know much about One-Punch Man. The creator has never said anything like that.
That means u haven't read much Mangas
There are characters like hajun featherine scp who can match saitama although I'm not sure who would win
@@shashwatmishraalumni4918 They far eclipse him. Saitama is multi-galaxy at best.
@@voidtempering8700 read saitama vs God
Nuh uh, SJW wins easily. Give saitama 100$ and a giftcard and he'll go away.
nah Saitama cooks and SJW FRIED..
@@Mask691Be careful though, they bite back, like seriously
That one caught me off guard 😂😂
@@Mask691I think they are joking, we all saitama is comparable Goku, so Jinwoo doesn't have that much of a chance
Edit: now that I read the novel I know Jinwoo defeats Goku.
@@ChocoDeGreat ye lol they going to bite it and start baring
I feel like Saitama takes the cake here. Here’s something’s I want to point out. When saitama clashed with cosmic garou, blast and his friends redirected an held back the attack. Also it’s debatable that Saitama didn’t use his full powers because after they landed on Jupiter’s moon saitama stated “At least I can let loose”, meaning that Saitama didn’t us his full power when clashing with cosmic garou.
When cosmic garou copied saitama, he was using blasts gravity manipulation and made saitamas serous punches stronger. That means Saitama was adapting so quick that even with Garous copying abilities to make Saitama’s punches stronger, saitama was still out growing him that fast.
Finally when saitama sneezed Jupiter we really didn’t get to see saitamas full strength. When Saitama serous fart back to garou saitama defeated him with a normal punch. Then the reverse causality punch that defeated cosmic garou.
Forgot to mention Saitama was using one arm the entire fight.
yep they forgot saitama using one hand because he is holding Genoz Life Core and the other hand.
And yet some brainless people think he is a fodder
That's why this is not even a debate
He’s solar system lvl
Bro's we got a brainrot here ☝@@Nsnsms1
A point i want to add.
In 2 different instances, Murata has agreed that both Saitama and Cosmic Garou are Universal.
And infinitely exponential growth scaling ontop of that makes Saitama Universal+ to Multiversal(+)
No it doesn't bro. Saitama only grew that much because of his strong emotions with genos. Plus sung jin woo is literally multiversal minimum and outer maximum so saitama gets no diffed. Btw sung jin woo no diffed a outer god that was stated to have created his own multiverse and were stronger than the absolute being
I don't care what anyone says no body can hurt or kill this man except the author of the Manga, if Saitama scales to infinity there is no limit to how strong he can become even to a person that has multiversal defense. Enough strikes and sung I'd gonna end up like boros and garo. Both where heavily durable but could never hurt or out class him. These matchups be trolling hard honestly.
ur slow LOL jin woo has a new ranking above multi versal and is now limtless and can travel through space and dimensions and stop time
LOL saitama cant touch jin woo because jin woo can make him self vanish but still be there
jin woo can easily kill saitama jin woo can control humans and gods minds
The real Saitama scales to infinity my guy. Murata made it a somewhat serious version cause webcomic Saitama was just too strong. Murata kept his infinity potential but made his strength ambiguous meaning confusing the readers. Webcomic Saitama sweeps almost all characters.
@@Sted164 the fact you said scale to infinity already proves how bad you scale lol
Nice video as always Yacine... But you forgot that current Saitama is eons of time stronger than the Saitama that fought Garou. Saitama said it himself that he has the strength to one shot his yesterday self... And if we actually calc Saitama of now who merged with the Saitama of that Garou fight and apply this statement from Saitama himself. Then it's not far fetched to say Saitama is Universal at this point... But this is very tricky... So yea.
And damn. Your Sung scaling seems to be the most accurate I've seen. Some people have him at Multiversal.
Good Video as always.
And yea. Solo Leveling seems to be heavily inspired by OPM
I know, many people sleep on saitamas passive growth rate, even him during his fight with monster garou should've been galaxy level due to him being at least star level against boros.
Jin woo scale to multiversel because he stated to alone fight with outer god's who can create universe. But when it's compare to saitama I highly doubt anyone can defeat saitama
@@wargun09876
as covered in this video, this is not consistent with uni scaling, and even if so, he still wouldn't scale to multiversal
we will wait and see him show universal feats before claiming he's universal
@@cheesefinder111 True... It's not far anymore.
Even if Sung is universal+, Saitama's current feats put him at 4/5D. He could destroy and interact with hyperspace gates (which aren't subspace gates because Blast said in chapter 166 that he'd use them to transfer Garou to another dimension, meaning the portals offer interdimensional travel which is what hyperspace gates do), hear into God's mental-like dimension twice, travel from one timeline to another with sheer movement (which is a 5D feat according to String Theory), and make Genos' core completely insusceptible to time trying to merge it with its past counterpart. Murata even confirmed from ONE that Saitama deviated from the laws of his universe, which means he's above space and time, aka 5D. This last statement can be found in his twitter and was posted on May 7th, 2019
Why do some say hyperspaces are 3D?
@@sauce8148 Because they try to downplay Saitama as much as possible
@@sauce8148Sub-space gates are 3D since they can only wrap space in our Universe. While Hyperspace can wrap other dimensions, like other parallel Universes or Multiverses.
Sung Jin Woo has his very own infinite dimension, the Territory of Eternal Rest which he has complete control over. That alone is enough to beat Saitama. Sung Jin Woo also can erase ppl from existence. Saitama has no answer to this.
Sung Jin woo can b scaled much higher than universal+ due to him being far superior to all the Rulers who killed the Absolute Being who created everything in Solo Leveling, including the "Gap Between Dimensions" and the Monarchs and Rulers which are higher existences, making them at least 4D if not higher
@@Nick-bv1yc”Don’t mess with us solo readers we can’t read”
Telling me that Universal Sung Jin Woo is cannon is like telling me Terra 2 Saitama is cannon💀🔥🙏
well if u read the light novel jin woo one shot saitama
@@anwardegoat82 Is the illustrated manhwa the official interpretation of the light novel? If so then when interpreting feats from the light novel that may be contentious and/or unclear the feat should be referenced from the manhwa.
@@anwardegoat82 yk it's unfair if we taking Jin Woo from the light novel which is not canon if that's how you want to play then let's get Terra 2 Saitama here or Web Comic Saitama to let him DOGWALK Sung Jin Woo in any kind of form
@@kazui1340 Bro, light novel Sung is the true canon version, the source version. While terra 2 is non-canon.
+read solo leveling ragnarok
@Yogiriww ik mate
"Due to an upsurge of emotion"
Is what I find on the exact same manga panel that shows Saitama's growth. This isn't something he can do normally.
"This isn's something he can do normally"
-Some rando
@@pepepicapinto543 ok??
But he can't use it normally cause the manga said it was because of the upsurge of emotion
The Narrative stated that even Now he is continuously Growing, but the upsurge of emotions made his exponential growth, and that is enough to surpass the growth of Cosmic Garou from Saitama's mode as shown in the graph
Also, in the Data Books, Saitama was able to casually One-Punch his yesterday self on a simulation
The insane growth he experienced during the Cosmic Garou fight was due to his emotion. However, he grows continuously every day without that upsurge of emotion..
I swear to god yall would see a gag character that can beat anyone and even bend the fabric of space time casually and still somehow go like “uhhhh actually X character beats him”
Like brother, no, they ain’t beating him. Unless his opponent is God with a capital G or the author himself he ain’t loosing
1:07 Gotta become a player of the System or your heart will stop , Join the Discord Server : discord.com/invite/6nPGvkuQvA
Okie
My phone doesn't have discord available to download ;(
Yacine u never mentioned reversal causality
Correction. They were on a moon near Jupiter called IO. IO has an atmosphere. Wasn't toon Force.
Did you read the Light Novel of Solo Leveling or just Manwha?
8:31 THANK YOU, I HAVE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THE GRAPH AND NOBODY LISTENS (at the end of the graph it was calculated at 10 sextillion times the initial value)
You my good sir are the first solo leveling scaler to have the brain to know the author uses Multiple hyperboles in and off the context of battle
How did you scale Saitama's Durability?
When looking at it, even Newton's rules and other physical rules won't work on him.
Like when he and Garou started fighting, Garou was able to match Saitamas' strength and then destroyed even Galaxies. After that, both of them had their hands.
Like The 3rd rule.
people keep forgetting that saitama can straight up copy and surpass any and all techniques
That's just cap
I think you talking about gaoro
Cuz if sun jin wuu uses a sword saitama can't copy that shit
@@gidolumola965didn’t saitama copy garou to use a technique to go back in time?
@@michael-k. the manga states that saitama had copied AND surpassed garou's most ultimate technique which was time travel
Where in the manga cuz to my knowledge saitama can't go back in time@@michael-k.
@@gidolumola965 read aroud chapter 192 it should have saitama go againts cosmic garou
Awesome!! Love your videos
Being able to breathe (or sneeze) in space isn't toon force, it's Self-Sustenance.
Yes it is. Lol he even farted at the speed of light. He did gag moves like grabbing, redirecting, and kicking hyperspace gate. He also broke a mind realm and entered there physically. Why is it hard to believe saitama has gag abilities or in the realm of toon power? The author himself has described saitama as nonsensical character with gag abilities.
@@Arcad1010 Not breathing in space.
Now I haven't read the light novel of solo leveling but I know that in the manwha Sung-Jinwoo has no limit of growth just like saitama we get told that when Norma Selna is trying to upgrade Sungs powers that he has no limit just like saitama so I would argue that none of them would be able to kill each other but ofc I'd go from the original source the LN witch I haven't read so idk but good video I love to speculate on these kinds of things so keep it up with the good work😁
Saitama has infinite strength and infinite growth
infinite growth, not strength.
The more he grows, the more strength he acquires.
@KekaiDUB no
@KekaiDUBit literally isnt
With infinite growth your strength can rise forever but it’ll never reach infinity that’s how it works
sung jin woo has infinite soldiers nd infinite growth too sung=saitama
and in the first place they are too nice of a person too fight each other
saitama wont even care if sung just dont tick him off
@@notcbt1987it was stated saitama power is ALWAYS rising it only rises exponentially when he has an emotion surge. Therefore his has infinite strength, infinite speed, infinite everything along with his growth.
Has the strongest, Saitama, began to fight the Monarch Of Frauds, Fraud Jin-Woo, Saitama got ready to use his Normal Punch, Fraud Jin-Woo cowered in fear, Saitama then said: "Stand Proud Jin-Woo, you should have not let the AC turned on in the summer'
Bro saitama is fly level... and sung jin woo literally has hundred of bugs/insects...
Next Video Title: *_" Why Boros vs The Monarchs is not even close "_*
Imagine a hypothetical world where Sung jin woo’s shadows and even himself can harm Saitama like what the Subterraneans did to him in his dreams. This fight would be astronomically epic. Imagine Saitama one shotting Jin Woo’s shadows while they take his life bit by bit. I wonder who would win in the end
he didnt even spit a drop of blood even fighting with the powers of the gods.......he was much desperate such that he has to dream getting bleeded
Yeah, but dont forget saitama just. . starts growing even stronger by the second in battle at that according to the fight against Cosmic Garou in the manga. So its crazy either way.
and then saitama wakes up
In fact, just "one 🤏 " is more than enough to defeat this jinwoo guy.
Are solo leveling fanboys mature enough to understand this 🤏 symbol? no, maybe they're busy with their trash novels.
@@ruru1514 "in fact" 🤓🤓dude jinwoo is outerversal now, he holds 600k+ universes at the same time, how is saitama gonna compare to that?
The editing is great this video
Saitama fans ⚔️ jin woo fans
Realistically:
Saitama 🤝 jin woo
5:41
...Dodging Lightspeed projectile/beam attacks doesn't mean that the character in question has FTL Reaction Speed. Only Sub-Relativistic, lower if the character in question has some form of supernatural instinct or precognitive abilities, or if he was already expecting it.
Of course, it could be that Sung is still FTL - but that scene alone doesn't imply that.
(PS: ffs, this is the Naruto debate all over again...)
Are you restarted or something? Dodging FTL attacks makes said character FTL, they would have to perceive and react to it. "Naruto debate all over again" Awwww you tried to lie and downplay them too? Naruto's been FTL since Part 1 and Sung Jin Woo is well above FTL. Your a clown.
@choppyhakusho You know what, I don't even want to argue with this guy. "You're right." Now be happy knowing you "won" another useless debate on the internet by being stubborn and calling random people 'retarded'.
Solo leveling fills the void left by one punch man and so does the Eminem in shadow
You forgot he has control over the concept of death his shadow army is basically immortal as long as he has magic and he has infinite sung jin woo has fate manipulation had you can argue for outer in the light novel😂❤
Saitama has anti cheat abilities so its easy to argue that it wouldn't really work
@mrseriousv1 sung jin woo is outer and he has an army of over 10 billion that have there own hax and abilities sung jin woo would win negative diff
@@aaronvargas8038 you know, I could argue with you for hours on end on how saitama has an anti cheat mechanism making it physically impossible to actually cheat your way to kill him or how the universal feats are completely based on words with nothing that actually matches to universal and how his army of 10 billion doesn't actually mean anything if they get wiped out from a sneeze and how saitama is basically indestructible but something power scaler need to realize is that, they aren't real, completely fiction, we should be comparing how good the writing is or how interesting characters are instead of strength as this argument will go on and on without resolve, since this is head canon I could always go, saitama wins no concept of diff
@mrseriousv1 you are very ignorant and I don't talk two clowns go do you're research on light novel sung jin woo before you spill this bull shit
@@mrseriousv1 As a Solo Leveling Manhwa/Anime fan, I agree with you.
Sung jin woo is stated in the LN as the shadow manorch with the ability to be immortal and is litteraly not bounded by death. So I think its Either a stalemate or sung claps if he traps saitama in his dimension then one shots him as he has control over death itself in it.
saitama is much faster than sung, plus his ability to play around with 4d-5d would pretty much render the dimension useless cuz saitama can just punch the dimension away. and again, sung jin woo loses this even if hes immortal
phoenix man also claimed to be immortal, didnt seem to bother saitama
phoenix man was not defeated by saitama he was outsmarted@@QhY-j2e
this creator had some majors issues in terms of sjw scaling he claps saitama@@jridomeer3150
@@QhY-j2e phoenix man "claimed." sjw is the embodiment of death. he IS death.
Someone on tiktok comment section being bias I'm glad atleast you are honest and giving the 2 characters credit and not being bias, I'm glad someone on UA-cam did this video with a good reasoning to, explaining this I've sent the person a link you your video and type your name if they didn't want to copy it I wanna see how they explain to me how jin woo wins.
This outcome of this fight depends on whether or not batman has preparation time
In the manga he also has the power to break the 4th wall
Saitama has never done a 4 wall feat
@@yeikelamores6085 he has look at the manga
He acknowledged the amount of panels it took for him to do something
@@kelvinsun5099sung jin woo fangirls would scale him to omnipotent lmfao
Still saitama shits on him in 2-3 punches
@@kelvinsun5099even conquestor meat riding sun jin woo now
lol you are wrong very, wrong. saitama can just sneeze on mid jing wo and its done@@Rudrakshgamer9191
I’d love to hear your take on Hardcore Leveling Warrior vs Sung Jin Woo. Though, Hclw isn’t too well known so you probably don’t know who he is.
Next time, put the proper words before the initials for those who don't know what HCLW is - Hard Core Leveling Warrior.
You were given a name first before you got your nick, unless it is otherwise.
@@kuyadong6791 You're right, my bad. I don't know why I didn't think to put the full name.
Saitama cant lose this. He is basically made to be unbeatable.
In his story
@@Kikikikenokeno with that logic sung jin woo is shadow monarch on his story. human anywhere else. saitama still beats as a simple human he beat a monster
@thefool5302 you are wrong. people hate opm fans cause they know saitama whooses their goku
doom slayer and godzilla are also made with the same logic.
@@scientist368no people hate him because people won’t set aside the gag factor for a serious conversation so there is not point to talking about it with them
@thefool5302he is a gag charcter bro, he is made to 1 shot any charcter you cant compare him at all with other charcters because its unfair, saitama will 1 shot zenos as a gag if they do a crossover
There's a little error at 2:55 , the Monarchs, therefore the Rulers too, can destroy the Earth; the reason why they are preparing armies and gates is to fight the Rulers on Earth. And to prepare the Earth as a battlefield, the Rulers spawn gates so the planet can withstand the battle and awakened humains so they can survive (although a small perrcentage).
I ended up reading the entire Solo Leveling Manhwa after watching the first episode of the anime and I've only read a portion of One Punch Man manga. Jinwoo is strong but I don't think it's anywhere near Saitama. Saitama is hust ridiculously broken.
but the thing that we have to admit that solos leveling stole many things from saitama 🗿
just remember that, when saitama broke free from phoenix mans dimension which exists in his mind only, that's space manipulation, being able to defy the laws of space, therefore or having unlimited power.
If Sung Jinwoo creates a universe where Saitama hadn't trained, Saitama would break the fourth wall, such as in chapter 194 of OPM,, Saitama broke the fourth wall after finding Manako (flashlight monster) in about 3 chapters, when Flashy Flash asks him how much time it took him to find her. He simply replied with "In about 3 panels" So that makes him aware that he is in a manga/ fictional world. Therefore, When Jin woo makes a universe, Saitama can simply break the readers/ watcher's screen.
Ye
Even the most powerful devil/monster in the underworld can't even breathe in space.
If someone want to fight Saitama, at least they have the ability to breathe in space🗿
I might be crazy but I think Blast has the same adaption ability as Garou and Saitama and could even defeat Cosmic Garou if was focused on it.
💀
Not really as Manga already showed it, he even needed help from his dimensional friends to redirect garous and Saitamas blast that tore a hole in the universe and also that in said fight, he was outclassed by cosmic fear garou and even was copied by him.
So yeah, he is not on the same level as Saitama, much less garou, even his black holes would be kicked like what Saitama did to garous hyperspace gates.
Well, you are wrong, but Blast is really stronger than most people think. Remember, than Saitama and Garou punched each over with full power, Blast was able to open a portal and teleport them to space before their punches were finished which means Blast is faster than Saitama and Garou together.
@@C0mb1nat0p again, that was what I was saying, he needed his friends to pull that feat off.
@@tc-channelhobby4051He didn't need his friends to do that, his friends did offer a help to redirect the energy away from the earth.
In One Punch Man world where the concept of "The Limiter", Which is a theoretical barrier that restricts the physical growth of a being, stated by Genius. The scientist, According to his theory, states that "immense and overwhelming power, becomes unbearable for one's body and eventually, they become mindless, crazed monsters. To prevent this from happening, God imposed a limit on the growth of all living beings." The concept of removing "The Limiter" in this world mean if a character managed to surpass this imposed limiter without succumbing to madness, their power would likely be immeasurable. They could possess unparalleled physical strength, speed, and endurance, as well as an extraordinary capacity for learning and growth. In terms of abilities, they might have the potential to manipulate reality, time, and space, and could possess an incredible regenerative ability. Their mental prowess could enable them to comprehend and process information at an unprecedented rate, possibly even granting them psychic or telekinetic abilities. The impact of such a character like Saitama on the world would be immense. They could reshape societies, alter the course of history, and potentially even challenge the very fabric of the universe itself which he infact did do.
So this means Saitama have no restriction to what he can do and have bc in this scenario, the Saitama would essentially be without limits, both physically and mentally. His potential for power and abilities would be unrestricted, allowing him to achieve feats far beyond the capabilities.
W 🗣️💯💯💯
Wow that is beautiful to read
For them who want monarch's tiering
Pinnacle of monarch : jin woo, antares, ashborn
High monarch: baran ( real one),
Mid monarch : beasty fang, ternak, Frost monarch, monarch of transforgution
Low monarch: legia, monarch of plague
Ill be honest here, and say that Saitama being a Gag Character who has the developement of whatever the authors feels like. Plus the series is no were close to being finished so Saitama has potential to grow. Solo leveling was a fun watch and from what i understand from this analysis, Sung Jin Woo has a pretty good kit to win this one. Great work
Solo leveling ragnarok is still ongoing. In that novel he just get way stronger and still growing strong
Yeah... you can scale jin woo to multiversal or higher so... jin woo negs
og webcomic saitama is a gag character, Murata's Saitams is a more serious character
Well OPM will get behind i feel, the story revolves more on side character which is why i like it more than a one sided story of some anime forgeting the side character and just pour everything on one specific Character. Surely Solo Leveling will get into a God shit level before OPM does but if we scale it on stages and progress Saitama wins no doubt.
Fate Apocrypha’s OST fits Solo Leveling surprisingly well… Great video, man!
I’ve read most of the series while playing the fate series osts , fits extremely well
People forget that Saitama is a satire character. Hiw whole arc is that he feels nothing anymore, and as exchange he receives unlimited power during his training. So, in his universe he can't and will not be defeated as his adaptation to a powerful foe is always higher. You may throw him Boros, Cosmic Garou, God and still he will be unfazed. Saitama character represent the end-game, its like you play a game , complete all main and side quests and now just wandering through vast and empty field of emotions, and nothing makes you feel the game anymore. That is, if you face something different, and in Saitama's perspective, its a strong opponent that never will shows up.
Bro he doesn't have infinite power... if he did why didn't he one shot garou when he did that shit to genos
buddy read the manga it is written that kid wanted garou not to be killed by S class heroes and when Saitama saw that he promised him that he will defeat garou and bring him back while making sure garou is not dead in the process.👈
My guy sung jinwoo had to repeat his power grind because he couldn't kill a dragon; Saitama sleeps through dragon level threats and has an entire organization of them living beneath his apartment building
Yes a multi versal dragon which is stronger than anything saitama has faced literally stfu
as said even if we say jin to be universal which i completely disagree on saitama would still have speed advantage and would not get hit even once even if he gets hit i dont think that would take him down, so then its just a matter of time till he adapts to jin woo with the usiversal power and demolish him at the end. saitama is not losing in any way shape or form.
Current saitama could possibly be muiltivers due to the monster association saitama being universal
@@Doom_is_peak_fiction no he caps at solar system
@@orochieditzz 💀💀💀 POV this is the first vid you have seen of opm:
@@Doom_is_peak_fictionHe is coping hard 🤣
what feat puts him at universal if you dot mind telling me
ONE Literally Said What Saitama Has Limitless Physicall Strength And Limitless Potential So It's Not Even Close.
Bro but he didn't show feats and if he did have infinite strength why didn't he one shot garou when he did that to genos. And don't say cuz he didn't want to destroy the universe. Cuz he literally was about to destroy earth if not for blast teloporting
@@Deathstawker-uc4eihe does have infinite strength but the reason why he didn't one short Garou was because he was holding back
@@Sekiro614he wasnt holding back if you read the manga
He even got hit by garou multiple times
(It was never stated that he held back)
@@Deathstawker-uc4eiu don't have to show everything u have
@@Liqusq he was told not to kill garou
Kim Dokja (Omniscient Reader) vs Yang Kai (Martial Peak) Will be interesting
Not even close yang kai wins he's a god that controls space and a little time, he's also a dragon that is in control of universes that also gives him power
dude yk will litterally one shot kd
I can never understand people who believe creative power is the same as destructive power. Quite literally 2 different concepts. That’s like believing a healer does the same amount of damage as they heal or thinking a pure dps can tank the same amount of damage as they output. It’s like they forget that most characters min-max their “stats”
Limits restrict how much and how fast a person grows. Saitama is limitless allowing his enegry/power(or wtv term you want to use)to rise without restrictions
Sung jin woo is large planetary and has mftl speeds. Sung's hax and growth is nothing to be looked down upon either.
But due to saitama being limitless, he wins easily.
That makes no sense becuase Sung Jin Woo is also limitless and he's Outer-Boundless in the Light Novel
@@harryschwartz5957 sung has limits, it was a hyperbole due to him being able to constantly break his limits. Hes potentially outer due to him being death itself, its possible, but not confirmed.
@@igflxcks8122 he does not have limits he will always continue to level and it will never stop his power will always continue to grow and with the people he's fighting in ragnarok right now he's getting even stronger
@@harryschwartz5957 in order to grow he has to break his limits, that was shown multiple times. Ik why ur sayin he has none, but he does.
@@igflxcks8122 okay so explain to me how even in the manwha he is stated to not have a limit and can infinitely grow? No head canon just examples of it
Wtf i didnt know saitamas strength was infinite on the official website i did not saw it or know it at all lol
Rimuru at the end of novel VS Saitama.
Pls do thisss
And I do think rimuru at the end of novel slams
It’s not even close Rimuru slams on his worst day it’s a bigger stomp than Tanjiro vs Naruto
if use that, than he should use saitama terra 3 is more fair
Its only been 2 months in OPM universe, but saitama is galatic level already, i think this is not the right time to compare him to sung jin woo , lets wait till "God" arrive 😊
where the hell is the spiritual dimension feats?
Saitama has transcended space time that is overkill
No he didn't.
@@voidtempering8700 he has
@@voidtempering8700 he did
@@Infinity-8689 No, he didn't. He needed someone's help to time travel.
@@voidtempering8700 that doesn’t change nor disproves anything. Saitama was the one who did the feat. You're ignoring what the manga itself has said. Garou even stated saitama is the only one who can master gods power even without touching Gods hand. The manga stated saitama has transcended space time on multiple occasion such as in the time travel narrator stated that saitama crossed space-time & travelled throught another timeline. Saitama was standing on the 5 dimensional plane of existence where he was able to view an infinite branches of realities which then he chooses a specific timeline & jumped on it and performed zero punch feat. This punch was launched from a higher temporal dimension beyond the linear time within the universe. The punch was so fast that it landed on garou before it would've thrown basically it’s the 5D where anyone can hit you before they would launch an attack. Simply, stack on that in chapter 169 the narrator himself said "the punch landed on garou before it was thrown." let me tell you one thing before going on the scale, causality=time. Causality means cause & effects meaning when there's something caused it also do effect. In order to be beyond space-time you have be above cause & effect. Now in the manga, saitama's punch landed on garou before it was thrown meaning the punch affected on garou before it was caused. Meaning the punch was above causality therefore it also means the punch had to travel beyond the space time. All this grants him 5D AP & immresureble speed
"There's no such thing as infinite power"
Saitama: Well I guess I'm off
their universses are different and power scaling is different. but I think saitama's power doesn't have any reliable explanation. like it's logically impossible..
btw... that was not a ordinary planet earth , it was highly enchanted by the high class magical power... and now sung has his own shadow army of millions of dragons and beasts ... each dragon was capable to destroy a city at once.. think about millions of them...
One of my fav feats from Saitama is when garou tries to evade Saitama's omnidirectional serious punch by going through a portal, but before even garou enters the portal saitama was already on the other side.
Saitama literally ran around Jupiter's moon in a split second (WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE OMNIDIRECTIONAL SERIOUS PUNCH AFTERIMAGES) just to find the other side of the portal the moment he saw garou spawn one.
Even Cosmic Garou is going to beat that guy no sweat
That's not humiliating for sung bro.
What do you mean "even" cosmic garou?
He's so strong only like the top 5 in his verse can avoid just getting stomped by him.
(Saitama, God, Blast??, Boros??)
@@justsomelazybrit2707as of now he is top 3 after opm god and saitama
I thought Sung Jin Woo outscales even Dragon Ball verse. I kept seeng people scale him to high complex multiverse
glazers
Sung easily soloes the db verse
Nah, he is high Multiversal+ level at best. Goku is easily complex Multiversal level. Dragon Ball high-tier characters are easily highly complex Multiversal and Hyperversal level
@@Trolololol123nice wank, the video already disprove this BS scaling. Saitama one shots.
@@BaIdEagIeHe really doesn't lmao
As someone who loves solo leveling, saitama slams, sung dripwoo doesnt have the ability to dodge deflect or block punches that literally have an effect THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY
In solo levelling ragnarok webtoon,jinwoo is actually multiversal because he is single handedly fighting and defeating the rulers of other universes
Saitama can kill the shadow soilders by one punch bt he can't erase single of them. They can regenarate from nothingness..
U haven't read the solo leveling ragnarok..The abselute being has created countless universes not one universe so he is 2-B not 3-A.. And the outer gods are stated to be stronger the abselute being so they are probably 2-A or maybe low 1-C since they exist outside the multiverse of solo leveling that was created by the abselute being so they are 5d beings. And jin woo is now on par with outer gods so he is at least high multi means 2-A..
And another thing.. Jin had ftl+ speed when he was fighting with the architect at that time his level was 101 and we know jin woo can exponentialy grow like saitama when he is in the system.. So when was fighting with morachs at the level of 146 his all stats also grew exponentialy means his speed was mftl+ at that time. And after gaining powers from ashborn his all stats are infinite.. Means infinite stamina, inaccesible speed..
the creator of the vid didn't use ragnarok, since that's whole different show (a lot of retcon)
and thus there is no actual feat of absolute being become 5D. as he shown to lose to rulers which isn't even scaled to 4D.
consider how Rulers ≈ Monarch. And the strongest monarch Was only capable Launches an attack that only SOL so AB should be relative the same.
watch the video bro, they literally shown that there is no thing such as infinite power. (funny how you write those a lot but didn't even fully watch the vid😂)
@@bocahpintar2gt neither the creator of this video have read the LN nor u.. Both of u are using some stats and scans from vsbattlewiki. The average humans are 3D.. When rulers used cup of reincarnation all humans forgot everything bt rulers and monarchs didn't forget anything.. Surely they are at least 4D beings.. The creator didn't mention jin woo shook heaven which was infinite in size so he is 3-A by that feat alone.. He didn't mention antares can destroy the entire universe of SL and survive it from the outside of it.. So if u scale the SL universe 3-A , then jin woo has 3-A attack potency.. And if u scale the universe 2-B then jin woo has 2-B attack potency. Jin woo also tanked breath of destruction which is existence erusure like hakai. It was capable of erasing anything in the universe. It even erased jin woo's immortal soldiers from existence which were capable of regenerating from nothingness.. Yet jin woo tanked it with his bare hand means jin woo has Universal+ durability..
And ashborn meant no one is omnipotent.. Bt there's nothing to do with speed /stamina.. Anyone who is unbound from the flow of linear time, Has immeasurable speed.. At the end of Solo Leveling, he achieved "Acausality," an ability that grants him immunity from the concept of time in any and every way. In other words, Sung Jin-Woo transcends time as the entity doesn't affect him. So his speed is immeasurable..
Jin woo fought in the dimensional rift for 27 years straight. He was helping his soldiers to regenerate continuously by using his mana means stamina yet jin woo wasn't exhausted a bit.. Hasn't shown any fatigue whatsoever after the fight.. So it's possible he has infinite stamina..
@@imaryan5697 Sung jin woo didn't even exist in vsbw🤯elaborate how the heaven is infinite in size.
Ain't no way antares able to destroy the universe with Sol speed😂Also when does survive outside of it scale you anything?
Also how tf acausality Grant you speed💀And if SJW trascend time then i suppose he doesn't need item to rewind back time?
Ashborn statment also saying that there is no such as infinite, So all of those infinite you said is debunked.
Also I don't see how antares was able to destroy the universe consider how Fight between Monarch was only stated to able destroy the Earth.
-Keyword : "Possible"
@@imaryan5697 How using cup of reincarnation grant you 4D😭😭So what if they remember it? Does you even know how DIMENSIONAL work? If so explain it.
Tank EE is a great feat, but i don't see any how it is supposed to help anything since it just grants you resistance.
@@imaryan5697 "Possible"
'Well then saitama also possible to be outversal if the opponent Grant time to growths' so in other conclusion Saitama is possible to be outversal.
Stop the cap bro, antares can't destroy the universe considering most of his attack was only stated to move in Speed of Light. Yeah he could destroy but it would take infinite time since those slow attack ain't reaching the universe😂
There is no such thing as infinite stamina, like literally ashborn state that there is no infinite.
Also how there are no signs of exhausted could scale to infinite stamina😭This logic literally could work on saitama since he's also shown the same feat
-Edit : Also since when SJW exist in vsbw☠️They literally nuke every post of him since most of his fan would wank him more than saitama fan did. so Stop saying something that's not even exist bro
can you do video a with toriko?
10:36 FTL > mftl?
Editing error , my bad
Sun jin woo after trillions of years of prep time with more advanced system will probably be 1% of Saitama's power...Bro you can't compare Saitama with anyone in any anime verse... Author of OPM didn't make a power limit on Saitama and also Saitama power increase exponentially while fighting god level threat just like when he fought with Garou
wait ? this thing is a debate ?
Yeah, but both are OPM god's victims
@@Trolololol123no simply no
@@jesusmade3291 Simply yes. Jinwoo cannot even damage Saitama. Only chance at beating Saitama is erasing his existence, which Jinwoo cannot do.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 You do realize that jinwoo is multiversal right?
Sung Jinwoo would slam with no diff, Jinwoo controls the infinite land of the dead which would be infinite power. Jinwoo would also be similar if not faster than Saitama as demonstrated by him dodging a light based attack earlier in the story and only growing exponentially.
And since he's the god of death, if Saitama doesn't have really high existence erasure, there is no killing him or his army
Phoenix Man does the same. But got No diff by Saitama accidentally 🤣
Dodging light-based attacks is common in the OPM world, even Genos in season 2 episode 1 can do it.
It doesn't matter if he is a God or something, their titles won't do anything in power comparison, even Saitama could beat the God of his entire verse.
Sung gets erased from the timeline before he had immortality by the zero punch cope harder buddy
Lmfao phoenix man is below mountain lvl he is straight fodder@@Trolololol123
Lol nice joke
We can't really based sung jin woo's strength and compare it to saitama based on how wide the area of destruction he can make. Remember, the battle between monarchs and rulers have already destroyed the earth seven times. So the rulers had to upgrade the earth by infusing mana into its entire structure to make it 100x sturdier than the normal earth. Everything in it, the trees and mountains are a lot durable.
That's pretty fallacious and subjective lol, it was never mentioned that they infused mana, it was only said that they made humanity familiarize mana so when the time comes for the rulers and monarchs to fight, the strong hunters can survive. And saying it's 100x sturdier was a funny joke, a part of me thought you were a comedian
Thing is that opm hasnt ended yet so that means we wont know saitama's biggest feats yet
In current Solo leveling Ragnarok sung Jin woo Stated to fought outer gods who create multiple universe. So in terms of scale jin woo scale higher.
But in a battle saitama destroy everyone including Dbz, sl, Beach and most of the vers
NFL
Even if Jinwoo could scale higher, there's nothing he can do to actually damage Saitama. You would need a hax ability like Whis to be able to just erase existence.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Jin woo can manipulate existence with he's eternal rest but it only works on he's own vers and that domain. So he cannot erase saitama but he's completely immortal no matter how many times he died he always comes back so it would good to see how saitama defeat him which we will only find how he will defeat opm god.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 That's an NFL, if someone climbs Massively higher than Saitama, that person can perfectly hurt him with his physical attacks