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  • @lornakook4917
    @lornakook4917 Рік тому +61

    How do you resist SQUEEZING the two pipes and shattering the thing?? I’m not sure it would be safe in my hands. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @luckybarrel7829
      @luckybarrel7829 Рік тому +15

      intrusive thoughts fight hard but don't let them win

    • @Ike_AW
      @Ike_AW 10 місяців тому +6

      You mean like a wish bone but pushing instead of pulling?

    • @faramund9865
      @faramund9865 8 місяців тому +1

      Same.

  • @revylokesh1783
    @revylokesh1783 11 місяців тому +70

    As a fan of medieval music I think the world needs a lot more double-recorder music!

  • @OTOss8
    @OTOss8 11 місяців тому +73

    This thing is sweet. It's like the medieval woodwind equivalent of that sick double guitar Jimmy Page used to play when Zep still toured.

    • @SeattleScotty
      @SeattleScotty 11 місяців тому +6

      Use this for the little flute part at the beginning of Stairway!!

    • @OTOss8
      @OTOss8 11 місяців тому +2

      @@SeattleScotty Nowwww we''re thinking! YEah, this is what the internet is for!

    • @4rumani
      @4rumani 11 місяців тому +5

      It's not like that at all, Jimmy Page didn't play both at once

    • @OTOss8
      @OTOss8 11 місяців тому +1

      @@4rumani Well with this flute he could have. That's the point. Stop crushing people's dreams. This is a place for positivity and kindness. Now get you a double flute and learn to play the intro to Stairway.

    • @TheSillyPiglet
      @TheSillyPiglet 11 місяців тому +1

      More like Michael Angelo Batio

  • @MrWholewheat
    @MrWholewheat 11 місяців тому +16

    As soon as you started playing two notes simultaneously, in perfect harmony, I was like, "Oh yeah. I get it now. This is an essential instrument."

  • @marymoocow1276
    @marymoocow1276 11 місяців тому +39

    You might be interested in looking up harmony chamber ocarinas. Ocarina history can be difficult to follow because the instrument itself is kind of obscure in the Western music world, but harmony ocarinas (typically tuned in pentatonic scales) were probably invented in the last 200 years, some time after the ocarina was adapted for Western music. Some beautiful examples of this instrument are created by a studio called Kinfolks Ceramics [USA]. Other multi-chamber ocarinas are designed to extend the range of the ocarina, but they can also be used to harmonize in some limited ways [a good example is in the song Ocarina Wind by You XueZhi].

    • @We-Wuz-Great-201
      @We-Wuz-Great-201 11 місяців тому

      It's a primary school nightmare...

    • @marymoocow1276
      @marymoocow1276 11 місяців тому

      @@We-Wuz-Great-201 what is?

    • @unmilledrice9605
      @unmilledrice9605 11 місяців тому

      @@marymoocow1276 They're prolly talking abt the aforementioned ocarina due the fact (I'm pretty sure mostly in Europe??) they actually have elementary school kids play the ocarina, like how in the states we have them play recorders. Take this with a grain of salt though as I'm not European, and never played the ocarina in grade school. I just like heard it somewhere I think??

    • @bukharagunboat8466
      @bukharagunboat8466 11 місяців тому +1

      @@unmilledrice9605 I think the history is something like this: British kids have always played the recorder in Primary School. In the 1980s a new type of ocarina (the Langley pendant) was developed in the UK. Two primary/music teachers (David and Christa Liggins) picked that up and founded a company (Ocarina Workshop) promoting and selling ocarinas, including to schools. They have had some significant success, especially once cheap plastic ocarinas were developed.

  • @RexFouch
    @RexFouch Рік тому +17

    I’ve watched a concert posted on UA-cam (“Sacred Music of Medieval Spain”) over and over and it’s one of my go-to favorites. At the 55 minute mark there is a section played by ensemble’s woodwind wizard on what appears to be a double recorder, maybe smaller than the one Sarah is demonstrating here. I couldn’t figure out what it was!
    Very much enjoy the Team Recorder posts. I dabble with recorders and Irish whistles &flutes, Native American flutes… and this site is a great place to hang out and feel humbled.

  • @philipperossignol6187
    @philipperossignol6187 11 місяців тому +19

    Beautiful sounding instrument! I don't know of other double instruments, but I've always been impressed by the amazing Rahsaan Roland Kirk's multi-horn jazz, often playing three saxophones at the same time.

    • @SO-ym3zs
      @SO-ym3zs 11 місяців тому +2

      He played other woodwinds, too, including ones he invented. That, coupled with his circular breathing, made for some wild music!

  • @emanueleresini8853
    @emanueleresini8853 11 місяців тому +2

    You should look up the Sardinian instrument called Launeddas. It's a reed instrument but I think you could be interested anyways. It's a triple pipe one.

  • @thepossibles2149
    @thepossibles2149 10 місяців тому +6

    It’s so beautiful how much joy this double recorder brought you.

  • @InstrumentManiac
    @InstrumentManiac Рік тому +3

    This is so cool! But geez that would be complicated to figure out 😵‍💫
    you play it very well!

  • @demos113
    @demos113 Рік тому +7

    Watches vid... tries not to have a panic attack. lol 🙃

  • @giorgiolamborghini813
    @giorgiolamborghini813 Рік тому +13

    How beautiful! I have some recorders built by the engineer Francesco Li Virghi, he is truly an excellent builder and restorer of recorders.

  • @animatorgeek
    @animatorgeek 11 місяців тому +6

    There's a long history of double bagpipes. One example is the Cornish bagpipe, which several instrument makers have made versions of. It works similarly to this recorder -- two chanters, both with the end note tuned to the same pitch, but with different holes so you can play a whole octave while maintaining a constant drone.

  • @cibusvinum16
    @cibusvinum16 Рік тому +6

    I've been waiting (impatiently lol) for this video and you have delivered incredibly as always! Thank you for the amazing content and looking forward to more double recorders and other esoteric instruments in the future! 🎉❤

  • @osmacar5331
    @osmacar5331 10 місяців тому +2

    People woefully underestimate the power of a drone. They really fill out the sound.

  • @ARTANDMECHANICS
    @ARTANDMECHANICS 10 місяців тому +1

    Great, I saw your channel, I like creative works.

  • @CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando
    @CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando 11 місяців тому +2

    Sarah, you need to look for Launeddas, I think is double flute with a drone (so, 3 sounds). Listen to Luigi Lai. AMAZING!

  • @Guuzaka
    @Guuzaka Рік тому +3

    0:39 If I were to buy something like this, I would tell my maker to make it tuned in 5ths. 🤓
    3:00 That is what a clarinet/saxophone player would say. 🎷
    4:23 LOL at 2013 Sarah. 😆
    5:15 Arghul. 🏜 A wonderful, Ancient Egyptian instrument seen in the pyramids, and is still used today. ☀
    10:44 Just having fun I would say. 🎵

  • @matthewmatics6928
    @matthewmatics6928 Рік тому +4

    I find it interesting you call the drone a bourdon. In organs (who's flue pipes are rather similar to recorders) bourdon refers to a wide pipe that is stopped on the end. Being stopped on the end makes it sound an octave lower than if the pipe were open, hence why they are usually low pitch and if you were to have a pedal point (the organ term for drone) you would frequently use them for that as a foundation along with other pipes. I wonder if there is a connection, many organ pipes are named after existing and now historic instruments.

  • @georginatoland
    @georginatoland Рік тому +3

    Oooh! This was a fun video! Will you treat us to a full performance of music on this instrument? I’m all about the early music, but there are most definitely some jazz possibilities with those bendy notes…! ❤

  • @BriggsRonny
    @BriggsRonny 11 місяців тому +2

    I always wonder how many randos like me watch your videos that don’t have any real reason too. Thanks for being a corner of my fringe interests

  • @Duskydog419
    @Duskydog419 11 місяців тому +1

    Imagine someone was beheaded for playing a flute tuned in forths. Because they thought the king would like a Jazz scale 😂

  • @coone19
    @coone19 11 місяців тому +1

    I just bought my first recorder. Can you recommend web site where I can find pieces? Thanks, you are the best

  • @jonathanrropa
    @jonathanrropa 10 місяців тому +1

    I know I'm a month behind here but there's an interesting (albeit much more modern) double instrument in the brass family too! There's a Euphonium that has 2 bells so that you have the sound of both a Euphonium and a Trombone!

  • @Hydrargyre81
    @Hydrargyre81 Рік тому +2

    As a proud 80's kid I can't help but mention the double ocarina played by Jen in the Dark Crystal movie

  • @jazzrat2000
    @jazzrat2000 11 місяців тому +1

    I bet the musicians back then were asking to be paid double. And I bet they weren't getting paid double. ;)

  • @megalopolis2015
    @megalopolis2015 11 місяців тому +3

    I don't know how UA-cam did it, but it read my mind again. I thought of you yesterday, and this video popped into my feed today. I was not disappointed (as usual). This was awesome. I hope you and your family are doing well.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch Рік тому +3

    Thanks, another typically informative video. I had no idea there was a double recorder scene nowadays. I started playing two recorders at once more than fifty years ago- it should be pointed out that some of your illustrations also show not double recorders, but two normal recorders played at the same time. A double recorder offers obvious advantages, especially as concerns holding the instrument, which is always a problem with two separate recorders.
    As you point out, lots of medieval music lends itself well to sharing the melody over two instruments and maintaining a drone, for instance with an alto and a tenor recorder/gemshorn. But some of the two part Ductias work as well. It's useful to have a German fingering recorder so that you have a useable pinky note, if you know what I mean.
    cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott

  •  11 місяців тому +1

    Pity we don't have three hands. They would build a triple flute and it would facilitate chords.

  • @StanislavSkalozub
    @StanislavSkalozub Рік тому +8

    Greetings from Ukraine 💙💛

  • @Pocketfarmer1
    @Pocketfarmer1 11 місяців тому +1

    There is a tradition in Sardinia of a multi pipe called launeddas. Drones and chanters stuffed in your mouth. Add a little circular breathing and you are just about at the bagpipe.

  • @EmsIsFab
    @EmsIsFab Рік тому +2

    I LOVE that double recorder - I would love to play it sometime - creating harmonies by yourself :)

  • @TheHarrip
    @TheHarrip 11 місяців тому +1

    Well I never. This was fascinating. Wonderful stuff. Thanks.

  • @lizlanman47
    @lizlanman47 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow! Would it be helpful to use something like harmonica players do that is a metal frame to hold the instrument in place?

  • @mastercylinder1939
    @mastercylinder1939 11 місяців тому +1

    You never mentioned the double bagpipes, a bladder under each arm, two sets of pipes, one over each shoulder, used extensively to repel the English at Culloden. Even the pipers were made deaf so a not to suffer themselves from the mind melting racket..

    • @chrismills2012
      @chrismills2012 26 днів тому

      you can't beat the sound of Bagpipes. They're fascinating

  • @thtithilrunagate4577
    @thtithilrunagate4577 Рік тому +2

    One of my favorite performance moments was playing two recorders at once (alto and sopranino) at a Mumia Abu-Jamal benefit concert at Portland State University. Not a double recorder, but the previous sentence is pleasing in it's improbability. Between myself and the other wind player we had 14 instruments and mid-set I convinced him to let me play his bass clarinet because I never got to play one before and knew he was too nervous being on stage to turn me down, so I just played his parts by ear and then soloed by playing just multiphonics by inferring what would be likely mouth positions and fingerings from a vague memory of the book 'New Sounds for Woodwind" by Bruno Bartolozzi I once saw in a library a week after I first figured out how to make them (without ever having heard of the term) on my sax and recorder the week before. I hope you enjoyed my wind-playing adventure story.

  • @adriagil5041
    @adriagil5041 11 місяців тому +1

    the underneath holes are common in a catalan whistle called Flabiol, typically used in the catalan cobla to play sardnas or also used to follow "giants" and beasts in traditional parades

  • @yeboscrebo4451
    @yeboscrebo4451 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow. I’ve never seen this thing before

  • @mickeyrube6623
    @mickeyrube6623 11 місяців тому +1

    Wait.......THAT SHIT IS REAL😮😮😮😮!?!?!?

  • @christophertsiliacos8958
    @christophertsiliacos8958 Рік тому +1

    It may have been called Aulos, but I call it a recorder in stereo. 😉👍 Who would have thought that stereophonic sound was derived from the ancient Greeks? 🤔

  • @ChunkyKong-47
    @ChunkyKong-47 11 місяців тому +1

    The second she played both together it brought back the soundtrack for age of empires 2 lol. Spent a lot of time playing that game and always wondered how they got that specific medieval sound with that type of dissonance

  • @ZoeR.
    @ZoeR. Рік тому +1

    How can you clean and maintain it? Are the blocks separate or conjoined?
    I hope recorder companies can produce these in plastic as practice instruments !

  • @nemovidet2111
    @nemovidet2111 11 місяців тому +1

    The ancient Egyptians had flutes all the way back to the time of the pyramids (2600 BC); but, as far as I know, they don't show murals of the double flute until the Eighteenth dynasty (1550 BC). Still, that is well before the Greeks, who don't exist as a people until about 1000 BC, and the Romans, who don't found the city of Rome until 750 BC.

  • @maxbrumbergflutes
    @maxbrumbergflutes 11 місяців тому

    Hi Sarah, great Video, perfect explanations!Thank you for the link to my Aulos Video. Have you seen the videos of Callum Armstrong playing the Aulos?

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 11 місяців тому

    I remember seeing one of these very briefly in 300.

  • @nigelhaywood9753
    @nigelhaywood9753 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thanks for that! I think the avant-garde will go crazy when they get a hold of your double-trouble, super fipple.

  • @cathy7382
    @cathy7382 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been a part of some recordef societies never saw this before

    • @chrismills2012
      @chrismills2012 26 днів тому

      I was surprised to hear that these are actually quite common. I didn't think there were many of them. Had a look on the Internet the other day, it appears there's only one company making them. They're in the US

  • @andersgranmo7650
    @andersgranmo7650 5 місяців тому

    Sarah! You are amazing! A very good singing voice too! I love recordes of all types! Love from Sweden, way up by the polar bears!!! Hihihi.

  • @hippiblue
    @hippiblue Рік тому +2

    I made an aulos from GEMBUCK horns. A Reed instrument

    • @jlategan8327
      @jlategan8327 Рік тому +1

      @hippiblue oh that sounds fascinating! have you posted about it online anywhere? I've been thinking about making cornetti from gemsbok or other antelope horns

    • @hippiblue
      @hippiblue Рік тому

      @jlategan8327 I bought my GEMBUCK horns at the gem and mineral show, Quartzsite Arizona, during January. You can find every kind of animal horns at TYSON WELLS
      You can go on a SAFARI to Africa and shoot your own.

    • @hippiblue
      @hippiblue Рік тому

      @jlategan8327 note that recorders and aulos are instruments of TRUTH because they were made before mankind learned how to lie, (before Speaking).

  • @oliverhunter4427
    @oliverhunter4427 11 місяців тому

    Dvojnice is pronounced 'DVOY-nit-zeh,' with emphasis on the first syllable. D+V is hard for English speakers but a cute hack is to imagine a little silent vowel before the D, like saying 'I'd find it so' in a Irish accent: 'ah-DD-VOI-nit-zeh'

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords3719 11 місяців тому

    Michael Angelo Batio SEETHING that he was centuries behind some bawdy serving wenches of yore

  • @chrismills2012
    @chrismills2012 26 днів тому

    is this the instrument they called the Pentacorder? I fancy buying a few of these and learning it. Folk and mediaeval are really interesting areas of music for myself, I gather they do them in different sizes, does the early music shop in the UK sell these?

  • @csblendo
    @csblendo 11 місяців тому

    In other parts of southern Italy like Campania and Calabria you can find player of "doppio flauto" with different dialect names like 'Sischi" around Vesuvius.

  • @chutitnam3958
    @chutitnam3958 11 місяців тому

    Hi, Sarah and all, HI, I am kinda an leisure recorder player and mostly use my play-by-ear skill to "steal" sheet music for my personal enjoyment and sense of achievement. I also do some Christian praise and worship singing. My band partner encouraged me to learn playing guitar as guitar is major instrument used in praise and worship performance. So, What can a recorder player like me to help if i reluctant to learn another new string instrument? I know recorder is kinda solo instrument, it doesn't like guitar which can play chords and solo as well?...
    Please give advise... :) happy problem of mine~!
    Dominic Chu

  • @m.caterina7137
    @m.caterina7137 Місяць тому

    A quite rare antique instrument Is the double (or triple) flageolet, a reed instrument well played in the show of the flutist Trevorv Wye

  • @Derek-xf3eu
    @Derek-xf3eu 9 місяців тому

    Amazing. Seems like a neglected detail about history. Lots of violence but constructive things so much more challenging.

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 10 місяців тому +1

    Wait I want one

  • @FogyArts
    @FogyArts Рік тому +2

    Wishbone recorder

  • @jhhl
    @jhhl Рік тому +1

    Well this is fun! Maybe a thumb rest or two can help those no-finger fingerings keep the recorder from falling down. My friends who play panpipes and guitar at the same time use harmonica holders, perhaps that can help here too!

  • @ttaibe
    @ttaibe Рік тому +2

    I would not mind more content on this instrument on this channel.

  • @apearson79
    @apearson79 7 місяців тому +1

    I need one.

  • @MultiAmadeuss1
    @MultiAmadeuss1 11 місяців тому

    Hi. Just wanted to say that "dvojnice" in Croatian in pronounced "dvoy-neets-eh". Great video btw 😁

  • @VholyIQ
    @VholyIQ 11 місяців тому +1

    You may want to check the Alboka, an instrument played in Basque culture with circular breathing that has two pipes and uses a horn as an amplifier

  • @couchking1
    @couchking1 10 місяців тому

    Is it easier to play a double recorder with simpler single-handed fingering? Or a single barrel recorder with double-handed fingering?

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 10 місяців тому

    "tuning is a... Fun challenge!"
    Me as a former Eb clarinet and one player: excuse me what

  • @etiennemalan8717
    @etiennemalan8717 10 місяців тому +1

    I want !😊

  • @Silkari
    @Silkari 11 місяців тому

    Beautiful. I couldnt'find the fingering chart you referred to, would love to take a look at the system he's created.

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad 11 місяців тому

    Someone should build something like this but with a proper bass and "cheater" toggle keys for the bourdon side... so you could just set a drone pitch and move on with your life until you actually needed to change it.

  • @Frohds14
    @Frohds14 Рік тому

    I just yelled at the teenager to tune down his new e-guitar. I probably wouldn't have been happier in the Middle Ages.🙃

  • @pearljaime2
    @pearljaime2 11 місяців тому

    Basically a 12 string guitar. Cept you can actually choose between playing each set of 6 strings separetely.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 11 місяців тому

    I am curious about double flutes and in a previous google search found a few videos here on UA-cam of an instrument called an algoza or algoja from Rajasthan.

  • @dereknolin5986
    @dereknolin5986 11 місяців тому

    Any idea where I could get just the melody half of that to play as a single handed recorder/tabor pipe?

  • @bartolomeothesatyr
    @bartolomeothesatyr 11 місяців тому

    Re: @3:43 , history is only that little bit of time in which people have been writing things down; a whole lot of time happened before we got the knack.

  • @SamiKankaristo
    @SamiKankaristo 11 місяців тому

    "The pipes are tuned in fourths". Well, now you have to play Smoke on the Water on it.

  • @Morbazan125
    @Morbazan125 11 місяців тому

    Wonder if I could print one😂 I’m not really a wind instrument person as I smoke too much but this would be cool to mess about with.

  • @tussk.
    @tussk. 11 місяців тому

    00:27 No, you don't. You have two holes, one for each pipe.

  • @rayne4443
    @rayne4443 11 місяців тому

    I have a original? Or not Recorder is made with a metal sheet and the tip is sideways and almost or it is 100 year old, from my great grandfather

  • @PlanetImo
    @PlanetImo 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting, thank you! :)

  • @gillchatfield3231
    @gillchatfield3231 Рік тому +1

    Sarah, you're just astonishing 😮❤

  • @suzanastojinovic9484
    @suzanastojinovic9484 Рік тому +1

    These double recorders are fascinating. I have a balkan DVOJNICE at home and I can somewhat play a tune or two. Also, that was a great attempt at pronunciation, but the letter J is pronounced as Y, letter C is pronounced as TS - so you can pronounce it like this - DVOYNITSE. :D

    • @s.KatjaB
      @s.KatjaB Рік тому

      And you put the accent on O (at least in Slovenia). Very interesting video (as always...😉), thank you!

  • @Joe-ij6of
    @Joe-ij6of 11 місяців тому

    Here’s a more modern double instrument:
    ua-cam.com/video/c5H32rE468o/v-deo.htmlsi=1qhoUhePwA2cH4Pb

  • @margheritacasamonti5048
    @margheritacasamonti5048 11 місяців тому

    There are Sardinia's LAUNEDDAS too

  • @CarlDidur
    @CarlDidur 11 місяців тому +1

    Roland Kirk says hi.

    • @whukriede
      @whukriede 11 місяців тому

      Very nice observation!

  • @liamredmill9134
    @liamredmill9134 11 місяців тому

    I like the improvising part,thankyou

  • @shaihulud69
    @shaihulud69 11 місяців тому +1

    Que tu es belle❤

  • @petergregory7199
    @petergregory7199 11 місяців тому

    recorder music sounds like vitamins…. (the dots are the sound holes)

  • @deputydog1995
    @deputydog1995 11 місяців тому

    Make one with three pipes and you will have a tricorder.🖖

  • @Hin_Håle
    @Hin_Håle 11 місяців тому

    There are also a bunch of european bagpipes that have double chanters.

  • @gelflingmusic9428
    @gelflingmusic9428 7 місяців тому

    There is another. I have a double medieval recorder but prefer the harmony ocarina. As it has more range and harmony. It can play 8 notes on each sides. Fully chromatic, a fourth appart so between the sides, 12 notes. And available in Bass, Tenor & Alto.

  • @SilverHolland
    @SilverHolland Місяць тому

    This video answers a lot of questions I never had.

  • @lylek8933
    @lylek8933 11 місяців тому

    Can find Ocarinas that can be both double and even triple. :)

  • @EnthalpyUplusPV
    @EnthalpyUplusPV 10 місяців тому

    Michael-angelo bato's ancestors be like:

  • @piokul
    @piokul 11 місяців тому

    Dvojnice would be pronounced: D'voy-knee-tze. From 'dvoje' which means 'two'.

  • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
    @SomeoneBeginingWithI Місяць тому

    This is amazing! I just found you through answer in progress and now I want to re-learn recorder specifically so I can play the double recorder and do harmonies!

  • @silviaberchtold1613
    @silviaberchtold1613 Рік тому +1

    hey Sarah, thanks for sharing my video!!

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  Рік тому +2

      It’s SOOOO beautiful Silvia! Chapeau!

    • @silviaberchtold1613
      @silviaberchtold1613 Рік тому

      @@Team_Recorder there are, by the way, some new compositions coming up for double recorder. For example this one: ua-cam.com/video/HvnTxdYcJGs/v-deo.html

  • @13donstalos
    @13donstalos 11 місяців тому

    Double recorder? Wow that's almost three recorders.

  • @ChrisDragotta
    @ChrisDragotta 11 місяців тому

    Tape two slide whistles together! I did it, works well.

  • @focidhomophobicii2426
    @focidhomophobicii2426 11 місяців тому

    How UA-cam knows i like double blowing video😮

  • @felixmarques
    @felixmarques 11 місяців тому

    At 1:49 I expected “Fly Me to the Moon” for real.

  • @guruswamyvishwanath4746
    @guruswamyvishwanath4746 11 місяців тому

    The Algoza from India is similar