@@4rumani Well with this flute he could have. That's the point. Stop crushing people's dreams. This is a place for positivity and kindness. Now get you a double flute and learn to play the intro to Stairway.
You might be interested in looking up harmony chamber ocarinas. Ocarina history can be difficult to follow because the instrument itself is kind of obscure in the Western music world, but harmony ocarinas (typically tuned in pentatonic scales) were probably invented in the last 200 years, some time after the ocarina was adapted for Western music. Some beautiful examples of this instrument are created by a studio called Kinfolks Ceramics [USA]. Other multi-chamber ocarinas are designed to extend the range of the ocarina, but they can also be used to harmonize in some limited ways [a good example is in the song Ocarina Wind by You XueZhi].
@@marymoocow1276 They're prolly talking abt the aforementioned ocarina due the fact (I'm pretty sure mostly in Europe??) they actually have elementary school kids play the ocarina, like how in the states we have them play recorders. Take this with a grain of salt though as I'm not European, and never played the ocarina in grade school. I just like heard it somewhere I think??
@@unmilledrice9605 I think the history is something like this: British kids have always played the recorder in Primary School. In the 1980s a new type of ocarina (the Langley pendant) was developed in the UK. Two primary/music teachers (David and Christa Liggins) picked that up and founded a company (Ocarina Workshop) promoting and selling ocarinas, including to schools. They have had some significant success, especially once cheap plastic ocarinas were developed.
I’ve watched a concert posted on UA-cam (“Sacred Music of Medieval Spain”) over and over and it’s one of my go-to favorites. At the 55 minute mark there is a section played by ensemble’s woodwind wizard on what appears to be a double recorder, maybe smaller than the one Sarah is demonstrating here. I couldn’t figure out what it was! Very much enjoy the Team Recorder posts. I dabble with recorders and Irish whistles &flutes, Native American flutes… and this site is a great place to hang out and feel humbled.
Beautiful sounding instrument! I don't know of other double instruments, but I've always been impressed by the amazing Rahsaan Roland Kirk's multi-horn jazz, often playing three saxophones at the same time.
You should look up the Sardinian instrument called Launeddas. It's a reed instrument but I think you could be interested anyways. It's a triple pipe one.
There's a long history of double bagpipes. One example is the Cornish bagpipe, which several instrument makers have made versions of. It works similarly to this recorder -- two chanters, both with the end note tuned to the same pitch, but with different holes so you can play a whole octave while maintaining a constant drone.
I've been waiting (impatiently lol) for this video and you have delivered incredibly as always! Thank you for the amazing content and looking forward to more double recorders and other esoteric instruments in the future! 🎉❤
0:39 If I were to buy something like this, I would tell my maker to make it tuned in 5ths. 🤓 3:00 That is what a clarinet/saxophone player would say. 🎷 4:23 LOL at 2013 Sarah. 😆 5:15 Arghul. 🏜 A wonderful, Ancient Egyptian instrument seen in the pyramids, and is still used today. ☀ 10:44 Just having fun I would say. 🎵
I find it interesting you call the drone a bourdon. In organs (who's flue pipes are rather similar to recorders) bourdon refers to a wide pipe that is stopped on the end. Being stopped on the end makes it sound an octave lower than if the pipe were open, hence why they are usually low pitch and if you were to have a pedal point (the organ term for drone) you would frequently use them for that as a foundation along with other pipes. I wonder if there is a connection, many organ pipes are named after existing and now historic instruments.
Oooh! This was a fun video! Will you treat us to a full performance of music on this instrument? I’m all about the early music, but there are most definitely some jazz possibilities with those bendy notes…! ❤
I know I'm a month behind here but there's an interesting (albeit much more modern) double instrument in the brass family too! There's a Euphonium that has 2 bells so that you have the sound of both a Euphonium and a Trombone!
I don't know how UA-cam did it, but it read my mind again. I thought of you yesterday, and this video popped into my feed today. I was not disappointed (as usual). This was awesome. I hope you and your family are doing well.
Thanks, another typically informative video. I had no idea there was a double recorder scene nowadays. I started playing two recorders at once more than fifty years ago- it should be pointed out that some of your illustrations also show not double recorders, but two normal recorders played at the same time. A double recorder offers obvious advantages, especially as concerns holding the instrument, which is always a problem with two separate recorders. As you point out, lots of medieval music lends itself well to sharing the melody over two instruments and maintaining a drone, for instance with an alto and a tenor recorder/gemshorn. But some of the two part Ductias work as well. It's useful to have a German fingering recorder so that you have a useable pinky note, if you know what I mean. cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
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Pity we don't have three hands. They would build a triple flute and it would facilitate chords.
There is a tradition in Sardinia of a multi pipe called launeddas. Drones and chanters stuffed in your mouth. Add a little circular breathing and you are just about at the bagpipe.
You never mentioned the double bagpipes, a bladder under each arm, two sets of pipes, one over each shoulder, used extensively to repel the English at Culloden. Even the pipers were made deaf so a not to suffer themselves from the mind melting racket..
One of my favorite performance moments was playing two recorders at once (alto and sopranino) at a Mumia Abu-Jamal benefit concert at Portland State University. Not a double recorder, but the previous sentence is pleasing in it's improbability. Between myself and the other wind player we had 14 instruments and mid-set I convinced him to let me play his bass clarinet because I never got to play one before and knew he was too nervous being on stage to turn me down, so I just played his parts by ear and then soloed by playing just multiphonics by inferring what would be likely mouth positions and fingerings from a vague memory of the book 'New Sounds for Woodwind" by Bruno Bartolozzi I once saw in a library a week after I first figured out how to make them (without ever having heard of the term) on my sax and recorder the week before. I hope you enjoyed my wind-playing adventure story.
the underneath holes are common in a catalan whistle called Flabiol, typically used in the catalan cobla to play sardnas or also used to follow "giants" and beasts in traditional parades
It may have been called Aulos, but I call it a recorder in stereo. 😉👍 Who would have thought that stereophonic sound was derived from the ancient Greeks? 🤔
The second she played both together it brought back the soundtrack for age of empires 2 lol. Spent a lot of time playing that game and always wondered how they got that specific medieval sound with that type of dissonance
How can you clean and maintain it? Are the blocks separate or conjoined? I hope recorder companies can produce these in plastic as practice instruments !
The ancient Egyptians had flutes all the way back to the time of the pyramids (2600 BC); but, as far as I know, they don't show murals of the double flute until the Eighteenth dynasty (1550 BC). Still, that is well before the Greeks, who don't exist as a people until about 1000 BC, and the Romans, who don't found the city of Rome until 750 BC.
I was surprised to hear that these are actually quite common. I didn't think there were many of them. Had a look on the Internet the other day, it appears there's only one company making them. They're in the US
@hippiblue oh that sounds fascinating! have you posted about it online anywhere? I've been thinking about making cornetti from gemsbok or other antelope horns
@jlategan8327 I bought my GEMBUCK horns at the gem and mineral show, Quartzsite Arizona, during January. You can find every kind of animal horns at TYSON WELLS You can go on a SAFARI to Africa and shoot your own.
Dvojnice is pronounced 'DVOY-nit-zeh,' with emphasis on the first syllable. D+V is hard for English speakers but a cute hack is to imagine a little silent vowel before the D, like saying 'I'd find it so' in a Irish accent: 'ah-DD-VOI-nit-zeh'
is this the instrument they called the Pentacorder? I fancy buying a few of these and learning it. Folk and mediaeval are really interesting areas of music for myself, I gather they do them in different sizes, does the early music shop in the UK sell these?
In other parts of southern Italy like Campania and Calabria you can find player of "doppio flauto" with different dialect names like 'Sischi" around Vesuvius.
Hi, Sarah and all, HI, I am kinda an leisure recorder player and mostly use my play-by-ear skill to "steal" sheet music for my personal enjoyment and sense of achievement. I also do some Christian praise and worship singing. My band partner encouraged me to learn playing guitar as guitar is major instrument used in praise and worship performance. So, What can a recorder player like me to help if i reluctant to learn another new string instrument? I know recorder is kinda solo instrument, it doesn't like guitar which can play chords and solo as well?... Please give advise... :) happy problem of mine~! Dominic Chu
Well this is fun! Maybe a thumb rest or two can help those no-finger fingerings keep the recorder from falling down. My friends who play panpipes and guitar at the same time use harmonica holders, perhaps that can help here too!
Someone should build something like this but with a proper bass and "cheater" toggle keys for the bourdon side... so you could just set a drone pitch and move on with your life until you actually needed to change it.
I am curious about double flutes and in a previous google search found a few videos here on UA-cam of an instrument called an algoza or algoja from Rajasthan.
Re: @3:43 , history is only that little bit of time in which people have been writing things down; a whole lot of time happened before we got the knack.
These double recorders are fascinating. I have a balkan DVOJNICE at home and I can somewhat play a tune or two. Also, that was a great attempt at pronunciation, but the letter J is pronounced as Y, letter C is pronounced as TS - so you can pronounce it like this - DVOYNITSE. :D
There is another. I have a double medieval recorder but prefer the harmony ocarina. As it has more range and harmony. It can play 8 notes on each sides. Fully chromatic, a fourth appart so between the sides, 12 notes. And available in Bass, Tenor & Alto.
This is amazing! I just found you through answer in progress and now I want to re-learn recorder specifically so I can play the double recorder and do harmonies!
@@Team_Recorder there are, by the way, some new compositions coming up for double recorder. For example this one: ua-cam.com/video/HvnTxdYcJGs/v-deo.html
How do you resist SQUEEZING the two pipes and shattering the thing?? I’m not sure it would be safe in my hands. 🤣🤣🤣
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You mean like a wish bone but pushing instead of pulling?
Same.
As a fan of medieval music I think the world needs a lot more double-recorder music!
This thing is sweet. It's like the medieval woodwind equivalent of that sick double guitar Jimmy Page used to play when Zep still toured.
Use this for the little flute part at the beginning of Stairway!!
@@SeattleScotty Nowwww we''re thinking! YEah, this is what the internet is for!
It's not like that at all, Jimmy Page didn't play both at once
@@4rumani Well with this flute he could have. That's the point. Stop crushing people's dreams. This is a place for positivity and kindness. Now get you a double flute and learn to play the intro to Stairway.
More like Michael Angelo Batio
As soon as you started playing two notes simultaneously, in perfect harmony, I was like, "Oh yeah. I get it now. This is an essential instrument."
You might be interested in looking up harmony chamber ocarinas. Ocarina history can be difficult to follow because the instrument itself is kind of obscure in the Western music world, but harmony ocarinas (typically tuned in pentatonic scales) were probably invented in the last 200 years, some time after the ocarina was adapted for Western music. Some beautiful examples of this instrument are created by a studio called Kinfolks Ceramics [USA]. Other multi-chamber ocarinas are designed to extend the range of the ocarina, but they can also be used to harmonize in some limited ways [a good example is in the song Ocarina Wind by You XueZhi].
It's a primary school nightmare...
@@We-Wuz-Great-201 what is?
@@marymoocow1276 They're prolly talking abt the aforementioned ocarina due the fact (I'm pretty sure mostly in Europe??) they actually have elementary school kids play the ocarina, like how in the states we have them play recorders. Take this with a grain of salt though as I'm not European, and never played the ocarina in grade school. I just like heard it somewhere I think??
@@unmilledrice9605 I think the history is something like this: British kids have always played the recorder in Primary School. In the 1980s a new type of ocarina (the Langley pendant) was developed in the UK. Two primary/music teachers (David and Christa Liggins) picked that up and founded a company (Ocarina Workshop) promoting and selling ocarinas, including to schools. They have had some significant success, especially once cheap plastic ocarinas were developed.
I’ve watched a concert posted on UA-cam (“Sacred Music of Medieval Spain”) over and over and it’s one of my go-to favorites. At the 55 minute mark there is a section played by ensemble’s woodwind wizard on what appears to be a double recorder, maybe smaller than the one Sarah is demonstrating here. I couldn’t figure out what it was!
Very much enjoy the Team Recorder posts. I dabble with recorders and Irish whistles &flutes, Native American flutes… and this site is a great place to hang out and feel humbled.
Beautiful sounding instrument! I don't know of other double instruments, but I've always been impressed by the amazing Rahsaan Roland Kirk's multi-horn jazz, often playing three saxophones at the same time.
He played other woodwinds, too, including ones he invented. That, coupled with his circular breathing, made for some wild music!
You should look up the Sardinian instrument called Launeddas. It's a reed instrument but I think you could be interested anyways. It's a triple pipe one.
It’s so beautiful how much joy this double recorder brought you.
This is so cool! But geez that would be complicated to figure out 😵💫
you play it very well!
Watches vid... tries not to have a panic attack. lol 🙃
How beautiful! I have some recorders built by the engineer Francesco Li Virghi, he is truly an excellent builder and restorer of recorders.
He is ❤️
How much does it cost?
There's a long history of double bagpipes. One example is the Cornish bagpipe, which several instrument makers have made versions of. It works similarly to this recorder -- two chanters, both with the end note tuned to the same pitch, but with different holes so you can play a whole octave while maintaining a constant drone.
I've been waiting (impatiently lol) for this video and you have delivered incredibly as always! Thank you for the amazing content and looking forward to more double recorders and other esoteric instruments in the future! 🎉❤
People woefully underestimate the power of a drone. They really fill out the sound.
Great, I saw your channel, I like creative works.
Sarah, you need to look for Launeddas, I think is double flute with a drone (so, 3 sounds). Listen to Luigi Lai. AMAZING!
0:39 If I were to buy something like this, I would tell my maker to make it tuned in 5ths. 🤓
3:00 That is what a clarinet/saxophone player would say. 🎷
4:23 LOL at 2013 Sarah. 😆
5:15 Arghul. 🏜 A wonderful, Ancient Egyptian instrument seen in the pyramids, and is still used today. ☀
10:44 Just having fun I would say. 🎵
I find it interesting you call the drone a bourdon. In organs (who's flue pipes are rather similar to recorders) bourdon refers to a wide pipe that is stopped on the end. Being stopped on the end makes it sound an octave lower than if the pipe were open, hence why they are usually low pitch and if you were to have a pedal point (the organ term for drone) you would frequently use them for that as a foundation along with other pipes. I wonder if there is a connection, many organ pipes are named after existing and now historic instruments.
Oooh! This was a fun video! Will you treat us to a full performance of music on this instrument? I’m all about the early music, but there are most definitely some jazz possibilities with those bendy notes…! ❤
I always wonder how many randos like me watch your videos that don’t have any real reason too. Thanks for being a corner of my fringe interests
You’re welcome 😌
Imagine someone was beheaded for playing a flute tuned in forths. Because they thought the king would like a Jazz scale 😂
I just bought my first recorder. Can you recommend web site where I can find pieces? Thanks, you are the best
I know I'm a month behind here but there's an interesting (albeit much more modern) double instrument in the brass family too! There's a Euphonium that has 2 bells so that you have the sound of both a Euphonium and a Trombone!
As a proud 80's kid I can't help but mention the double ocarina played by Jen in the Dark Crystal movie
I bet the musicians back then were asking to be paid double. And I bet they weren't getting paid double. ;)
I don't know how UA-cam did it, but it read my mind again. I thought of you yesterday, and this video popped into my feed today. I was not disappointed (as usual). This was awesome. I hope you and your family are doing well.
Oh nice, hi! 😊
Thanks, another typically informative video. I had no idea there was a double recorder scene nowadays. I started playing two recorders at once more than fifty years ago- it should be pointed out that some of your illustrations also show not double recorders, but two normal recorders played at the same time. A double recorder offers obvious advantages, especially as concerns holding the instrument, which is always a problem with two separate recorders.
As you point out, lots of medieval music lends itself well to sharing the melody over two instruments and maintaining a drone, for instance with an alto and a tenor recorder/gemshorn. But some of the two part Ductias work as well. It's useful to have a German fingering recorder so that you have a useable pinky note, if you know what I mean.
cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
Pity we don't have three hands. They would build a triple flute and it would facilitate chords.
Greetings from Ukraine 💙💛
There is a tradition in Sardinia of a multi pipe called launeddas. Drones and chanters stuffed in your mouth. Add a little circular breathing and you are just about at the bagpipe.
I LOVE that double recorder - I would love to play it sometime - creating harmonies by yourself :)
Well I never. This was fascinating. Wonderful stuff. Thanks.
Wow! Would it be helpful to use something like harmonica players do that is a metal frame to hold the instrument in place?
You never mentioned the double bagpipes, a bladder under each arm, two sets of pipes, one over each shoulder, used extensively to repel the English at Culloden. Even the pipers were made deaf so a not to suffer themselves from the mind melting racket..
you can't beat the sound of Bagpipes. They're fascinating
One of my favorite performance moments was playing two recorders at once (alto and sopranino) at a Mumia Abu-Jamal benefit concert at Portland State University. Not a double recorder, but the previous sentence is pleasing in it's improbability. Between myself and the other wind player we had 14 instruments and mid-set I convinced him to let me play his bass clarinet because I never got to play one before and knew he was too nervous being on stage to turn me down, so I just played his parts by ear and then soloed by playing just multiphonics by inferring what would be likely mouth positions and fingerings from a vague memory of the book 'New Sounds for Woodwind" by Bruno Bartolozzi I once saw in a library a week after I first figured out how to make them (without ever having heard of the term) on my sax and recorder the week before. I hope you enjoyed my wind-playing adventure story.
the underneath holes are common in a catalan whistle called Flabiol, typically used in the catalan cobla to play sardnas or also used to follow "giants" and beasts in traditional parades
Wow. I’ve never seen this thing before
Wait.......THAT SHIT IS REAL😮😮😮😮!?!?!?
It may have been called Aulos, but I call it a recorder in stereo. 😉👍 Who would have thought that stereophonic sound was derived from the ancient Greeks? 🤔
The second she played both together it brought back the soundtrack for age of empires 2 lol. Spent a lot of time playing that game and always wondered how they got that specific medieval sound with that type of dissonance
How can you clean and maintain it? Are the blocks separate or conjoined?
I hope recorder companies can produce these in plastic as practice instruments !
Yes! Take my money!
The ancient Egyptians had flutes all the way back to the time of the pyramids (2600 BC); but, as far as I know, they don't show murals of the double flute until the Eighteenth dynasty (1550 BC). Still, that is well before the Greeks, who don't exist as a people until about 1000 BC, and the Romans, who don't found the city of Rome until 750 BC.
Hi Sarah, great Video, perfect explanations!Thank you for the link to my Aulos Video. Have you seen the videos of Callum Armstrong playing the Aulos?
I remember seeing one of these very briefly in 300.
Great video! Thanks for that! I think the avant-garde will go crazy when they get a hold of your double-trouble, super fipple.
I've been a part of some recordef societies never saw this before
I was surprised to hear that these are actually quite common. I didn't think there were many of them. Had a look on the Internet the other day, it appears there's only one company making them. They're in the US
Sarah! You are amazing! A very good singing voice too! I love recordes of all types! Love from Sweden, way up by the polar bears!!! Hihihi.
I made an aulos from GEMBUCK horns. A Reed instrument
@hippiblue oh that sounds fascinating! have you posted about it online anywhere? I've been thinking about making cornetti from gemsbok or other antelope horns
@jlategan8327 I bought my GEMBUCK horns at the gem and mineral show, Quartzsite Arizona, during January. You can find every kind of animal horns at TYSON WELLS
You can go on a SAFARI to Africa and shoot your own.
@jlategan8327 note that recorders and aulos are instruments of TRUTH because they were made before mankind learned how to lie, (before Speaking).
Dvojnice is pronounced 'DVOY-nit-zeh,' with emphasis on the first syllable. D+V is hard for English speakers but a cute hack is to imagine a little silent vowel before the D, like saying 'I'd find it so' in a Irish accent: 'ah-DD-VOI-nit-zeh'
Michael Angelo Batio SEETHING that he was centuries behind some bawdy serving wenches of yore
is this the instrument they called the Pentacorder? I fancy buying a few of these and learning it. Folk and mediaeval are really interesting areas of music for myself, I gather they do them in different sizes, does the early music shop in the UK sell these?
In other parts of southern Italy like Campania and Calabria you can find player of "doppio flauto" with different dialect names like 'Sischi" around Vesuvius.
Hi, Sarah and all, HI, I am kinda an leisure recorder player and mostly use my play-by-ear skill to "steal" sheet music for my personal enjoyment and sense of achievement. I also do some Christian praise and worship singing. My band partner encouraged me to learn playing guitar as guitar is major instrument used in praise and worship performance. So, What can a recorder player like me to help if i reluctant to learn another new string instrument? I know recorder is kinda solo instrument, it doesn't like guitar which can play chords and solo as well?...
Please give advise... :) happy problem of mine~!
Dominic Chu
A quite rare antique instrument Is the double (or triple) flageolet, a reed instrument well played in the show of the flutist Trevorv Wye
Amazing. Seems like a neglected detail about history. Lots of violence but constructive things so much more challenging.
Wait I want one
Wishbone recorder
Well this is fun! Maybe a thumb rest or two can help those no-finger fingerings keep the recorder from falling down. My friends who play panpipes and guitar at the same time use harmonica holders, perhaps that can help here too!
I would not mind more content on this instrument on this channel.
I need one.
Hi. Just wanted to say that "dvojnice" in Croatian in pronounced "dvoy-neets-eh". Great video btw 😁
You may want to check the Alboka, an instrument played in Basque culture with circular breathing that has two pipes and uses a horn as an amplifier
Is it easier to play a double recorder with simpler single-handed fingering? Or a single barrel recorder with double-handed fingering?
"tuning is a... Fun challenge!"
Me as a former Eb clarinet and one player: excuse me what
I want !😊
Beautiful. I couldnt'find the fingering chart you referred to, would love to take a look at the system he's created.
Someone should build something like this but with a proper bass and "cheater" toggle keys for the bourdon side... so you could just set a drone pitch and move on with your life until you actually needed to change it.
I just yelled at the teenager to tune down his new e-guitar. I probably wouldn't have been happier in the Middle Ages.🙃
Basically a 12 string guitar. Cept you can actually choose between playing each set of 6 strings separetely.
I am curious about double flutes and in a previous google search found a few videos here on UA-cam of an instrument called an algoza or algoja from Rajasthan.
Any idea where I could get just the melody half of that to play as a single handed recorder/tabor pipe?
Re: @3:43 , history is only that little bit of time in which people have been writing things down; a whole lot of time happened before we got the knack.
"The pipes are tuned in fourths". Well, now you have to play Smoke on the Water on it.
Wonder if I could print one😂 I’m not really a wind instrument person as I smoke too much but this would be cool to mess about with.
00:27 No, you don't. You have two holes, one for each pipe.
I have a original? Or not Recorder is made with a metal sheet and the tip is sideways and almost or it is 100 year old, from my great grandfather
Very interesting, thank you! :)
Sarah, you're just astonishing 😮❤
These double recorders are fascinating. I have a balkan DVOJNICE at home and I can somewhat play a tune or two. Also, that was a great attempt at pronunciation, but the letter J is pronounced as Y, letter C is pronounced as TS - so you can pronounce it like this - DVOYNITSE. :D
And you put the accent on O (at least in Slovenia). Very interesting video (as always...😉), thank you!
Here’s a more modern double instrument:
ua-cam.com/video/c5H32rE468o/v-deo.htmlsi=1qhoUhePwA2cH4Pb
There are Sardinia's LAUNEDDAS too
Roland Kirk says hi.
Very nice observation!
I like the improvising part,thankyou
Que tu es belle❤
recorder music sounds like vitamins…. (the dots are the sound holes)
Make one with three pipes and you will have a tricorder.🖖
There are also a bunch of european bagpipes that have double chanters.
There is another. I have a double medieval recorder but prefer the harmony ocarina. As it has more range and harmony. It can play 8 notes on each sides. Fully chromatic, a fourth appart so between the sides, 12 notes. And available in Bass, Tenor & Alto.
Wow!
This video answers a lot of questions I never had.
Can find Ocarinas that can be both double and even triple. :)
Michael-angelo bato's ancestors be like:
Dvojnice would be pronounced: D'voy-knee-tze. From 'dvoje' which means 'two'.
Thank you!
This is amazing! I just found you through answer in progress and now I want to re-learn recorder specifically so I can play the double recorder and do harmonies!
Ah brilliant!
hey Sarah, thanks for sharing my video!!
It’s SOOOO beautiful Silvia! Chapeau!
@@Team_Recorder there are, by the way, some new compositions coming up for double recorder. For example this one: ua-cam.com/video/HvnTxdYcJGs/v-deo.html
Double recorder? Wow that's almost three recorders.
Tape two slide whistles together! I did it, works well.
How UA-cam knows i like double blowing video😮
At 1:49 I expected “Fly Me to the Moon” for real.
The Algoza from India is similar