“I’m Sick Of Sending Kids To Uni For Mickey Mouse Courses” | Headteacher On “Rip-Off” Degrees
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2023
- Rishi Sunak has claimed Britain’s universities are “taking advantage” of students with “rip off” courses whilst he revealed plans to restrict poor-quality university degrees.
The Prime Minister spoke out as he unveiled a crackdown on low-quality courses where graduates struggle to progress into a highly skilled job.
TalkTV’s Mike Graham is joined by Headteacher at Sacred Heart School London Serge Cefai who calls for an end to “rip-off” degrees which aren’t leading to jobs for young people.
Serge adds: “I’m sick to death of sending kids to university for Mickey Mouse courses!”
Agreed, saw someone sporting a "graduation" photo for a hairdressers course the other day. Has become a complete joke
hair dressing courses have been going on for years at technical colleges. When I was doing day release during my engineering apprenticeship in the 1970's my local college had these courses and cooking/catering courses. We all got a city and guilds certificate and a trade.
Speaking as an ex teacher of 35 years,I've seen too many pupils heading off to university to undertake a course of study that has about as much relevance and use as a chocolate teapot. The end result is wasted years,a monumental debt,and fat chance of a job at the end of it.
This has all come about thanks to whacky social engineering,which bears no relevance to the real world in which we live.
Couldn’t agree more. I used to work in a gym that was attached to a college, the number of students doing sports courses was unbelievable, and mostly because they liked playing sports. Some, could not read or tell the time and many struggled to string a few words together never mind a few sentences.
👏👏👏 well said!
Social engineering does not exist buddy .Only teaching kids to be self sufficient in orienteering , Bush craft , money management , questioning social dem gov and big pharma , not being low risk of a flu virus yet wearing a mask when not mandated ,despite masks being proven in effective , and not preoccupied in lgbtq+ and pro open borders .No big gov social engineering happening in UK , only independent non samey people and thinking outcomes .Soccer and binge drinking zombies don't exist .
You're a teacher for God sake. What do you know about the private sector?
@@ianto8823 What is the relevance of this remark?
This teacher is a breath of fresh air, spot on about everything.
The fault lies with Blair who said every child should go to University. Only problem, they are not bright enough, so the answer was to run courses that were hardly very academic. Hence 'mickey Mouse' degrees that are neither use nor ornament!
Actually, most of the blame has to go to John Major and his Conservative government. The "Further and Higher Education Act of 1992", raised some 30+ polytechnics to universities status and gave them the right to award their own degrees. I don,t know the exact numbers, but this act (almost) doubled the number of available degree places in the UK.
He didn't say evert child should go to University. He said every child should have the opportunity to go. Not the same thing. However tuition charges were brought in making more difficult for poorer children to go. Well done the government. Doesn't matter which is in charge they all all useless and neither cares about ordinary people.
Last time I looked, Mickey Mouse is gainfully employed in Disneyland and still earning from royalties of the many films he made.
Kids are like lemmings and teachers are pushing them of the cliff.
My nephew who is 48 yes I said 48 has been in Brighton uni since age 19 has never had a proper job and is funded to cover all his bills and expenses. How stupid is that. Uni should only cover 3yrs maximum for the smartest people
I left school in 1975 aged 16, got an apprenticeship in engineering with a top UK company. Hardly anyone from my school went to University. Most of us from that era started paying into the system, where as those leaving University don't start paying into the system until they're in their mid twenties, plus saddled with a debt.
Absolutely agree and always tell my husband same that, I will never send my little one to uni. Get him good gcse the something into skills training. Some sort of skills on his hands rather wasting thousands of pounds on useless degrees with debt.
The guest nailed it. Well done old timers.
Well, I didn't think there were still headteachers like this man, pity he is coming up to retirement
Wow, so refreshing to hear a head teacher with some basic sense!
This headmaster talks too much sense, this won't work in England
Worthless Degrees that cost thousands, offered to kids who shouldn’t be considering university! 😉
Bring back trade training colleges( polytechnic college) Train carpenters, bricklayers plasterers metal fabricators?
We need more technical and vocational colleges again
I most definitely agree with that. I retired after 35 years of teaching Woodwork and Metalwork and the first thing the school then did was to close down the workshops and fill them with computers! It's rare these days to find any pupils that have a clue as to how to make anything-yes,they know all about STEM subjects,but in many cases,that's nothing short of laughable. New staff don't even know how to work with materials!
Blair destroyed them when he realised that education could make money! I have a vocational degree from a College of Technology. I graduated in 1974 and the only time I was unemployed was by choice!
Learn a trade. Problem solved.
Ive got a degree in picking strawberries, and ended up picking cabbages. The system failed me!
That it did... 😅
Better than ending up picking your nose…….
Brilliant serge, a brilliant expression of that rare attribute. Common sense.
Absolute legend of a guy, wish I went to his school although I was brought up this way. Down to earth man with honesty and good for the future generation of kids
Good for this headteacher! South London's answer to Katharine Birbalsingh! Meanwhile the loony LEA in Swansea sacks a teacher for physically intervening in a fight in school and causes a teacher-strike. The contrast is unreal.
Also during the 2020's the amount of colleagues plus others complaining about their sons/daughters with degrees unable to get jobs so stuck on the tills in supermarkets.
This fella is spot on. We need 5,000 like him.
I agree with this man. We also need to stop spending on useless and noxious EDI (i e INDOCTRINATION) and put tax payers money to better use.
A lot are decent people, mostly young people, who have been duped. Career guidance often is poor, and Unis still get away with misleading course descriptions, and don't publish stats to aid decision making.
I studied Media Technology. It made it sound like I was learning the future - this was 2005 before smartphones and the Internet as we know it today. The problem with these degrees is that they are too long and by the time you graduate everything has just moved on. Unless you are in a position to adapt in an existing job it's just impossible to break in. I got an interview with the BBC soon after as a technician just to be told that my skills are no longer what they want. They wanted computer science graduates. Should have sued that university.
@@ianto8823 I hear this so often - courses that are structured and run to suit academic staff rather than the needs of students.
I'm staggered my degree in 14th century Bulgarian basket weaving is not more valued by employers.
Need to copy Germany's higher education, which along with apprenticeships achieve to make a more productive nation, not to trap young people in debt.
Oh boy, the world needs more teachers like this man. Cheers Rosemary Perth Western Australia 72yrs.
Well said. It’s pointless studying for a pointless degree and these days it can come at the cost of £70,000 worth of debt or more.
I think that kids BUT also their parents ( most of whom haven’t been to university themselves) are being sold down the river, by thinking that these days you virtually can’t get a job at all without a degree.
My old headteacher, u made my day sir, still speaking facts no fear. His school is located in the heart of ghettos such as Brixton, Peckham, Streatham etc i was from Brandon Estate Kennington (google these areas) but his dedication helped kids like me (broken homes/street life) pull through with results that competed with private schools! this man is special the kind of teacher you only see in the movies.
The Blair years rings a bell
I have 6 grandchildren, two of them are still in school. Of the four that are now young adults two went to university and struggle to find work, the two who did not go to university are apprentices and doing well.
What a breath of fresh air it is listening to this head teacher, for many many years now i have been saying the same as this intelligent man, well done Sir!
Serge is brilliant! Reminds me of my boarding school head of house....Mr Jackson ( Jake) . He wasnt a big bruiser of a man but I saw upper sixth formers twice his size trembling while he told them to get a haircut and tidy themselves up!
He was a great man and we respected him as he protected us and gave us direction. I am 66 years old now so he has probably passed now. RIP Jake ❤
Boris Johnson studied classics, pmsl now that was a waste. He should have gone for a plumbing course instead.
Exactly. It's not Mickey mouse if it's done at Oxbridge but everyone else gets slandered.
I've always been mystified re the 'upgrading' of college status to university status in Scotland
Not just Scotland. Technical colleges and Polytechnics near me were turned into universities by Blair.
Trendy Wendy ! even more hot air , trust the ‘ pie ‘ to interview a dolt
This headteacher really doesn't seem to like young people very much.
Not years....decades
A degree means nought anymore.
Glad to know that the headmaster of my school was the guest. Talking sense as usual.
What school?
@@AG-kb7yb Sacred Heart school, he’s retired.
@@Andy-qe6kk Not the one in Hammersmith?
@@AG-kb7yb Camberwell, southwark
A pity this headteacher didn't warn the frat boys of the Tory Party about the Mickey Mouse courses they took, because it sure as hell would have saved the country a great deal of heartache.
It's a pity that technical colleges and polytechnics were turned into Universities by Blair.
My daughter, who is studying A level maths and further maths (both projected A*) is at the point of deciding whether she goes to University, which will leave her with huge debts or seeks a good engineering apprenticeship. It will be her choice but as far as I am concerned, this choice is an absolute no brainer and she should look to go down the apprenticeship route.
This teacher is absolutely correct however that far too many young people are becoming heavily indebted for the sake of very sub-standard qualifications.
Until half of all student loans are written off they will never axe some degrees. I feel for all the students being sold a dream.
I have worked in banking with quite a few graduates over the years and can honestly say that in almost every case they were no better than those we recruited that had left school at 16.
One girl I recall well had 2 degrees, one in English.She spotted an elderly lady customer had left her glasses on the counter,and I suggested she drop the customer a note to advise her of this,as we didn't have a 'phone number for her.This graduate couldn't word a simple note to inform the customer we had her glasses ! After about 30 minutes she was still trying to write the note.when the lady customer popped back into the bank to see if she had left her glasses anywhere.
A degree in English and you can't write a simple note !
are you making that up, i wasn't even educated at school but could almost write a book at 23...
14 years I have had my degree - all I have from it is a 16K debt
I have been saying this for years. Free tuition for doctors but to sign on to work for the nhs for 15 years or pay fees back.
Having a university degree means diddly squat, I know quite a few with degrees in jobs they are inept at. Lets start employing people who can actually do the job, not depending on the educational qualifications they have, at le'tast then it gives people from poorer backgrounds who cant afford university a fair crack at the whip.
Thanks for being real. It's so true.
Too much honesty, but our planet cannot compute.......
IMO fill Parliament with people like this. In the early 2020's big splashes on main stream media re: Government's new apprentice schemes. I took my son's 16 yr old friend down to the local careers office. Beautiful small office with one officer. Walls arrayed with boards of job vacancies. She knew nothing about the Government apprentice scheme, she had not heard anything about it. We browsed the abundance of job vacancies, every-one that we showed interest in, she got on the office phone to ring, to be told each and every time, that they had no such vacancy. The last job vacancy that we showed interest in, she gave us the contact phone number for us to ring our-selves.
If someone is unemployed at any point in 5 years after graduating the degree should be axed.
Blair is a Gangster.
Common sense is not something you get much of in this country, because kids are allowed to go to university when they haven’t got the brains to do it and the standards are then dropped because all of them need to come out with some kind of degree that isn’t worth the paper it is written on. Universities used to be for the brightest people in society who in many cases were all brains and no common sense and the ones with common sense were allow to follow an apprenticeship which was more practical. The world needs both but it doesn’t need 6 week apprenticeships or Micky Mouse degrees they are both a waste of time and money
Bullshit. If you ever been to university then you would understand a credit system. If someone doesn't get a degree they get a diploma!!!
why didn't he just say 'marxist studies' ?
It's not that a degree has to lead to a job, it has to lead to a job that is unattainable without that degree.
This is perfection. Well done! I have never read something that correctly answers this issue.
This is what happens when you allow financilisation, unfettered access to these sectors. Blair opened the door, but the Tories turbo charged it. The raising of fees turning it into a bit of a crisis.
Trust talk TV to have such a trite debate about it. They should be asking about why are is the tax payer on the hook for 80% of the privitised loans that won't be paid? Why has some tax payer funded rent extraction scheme been built around this. Look how landlords profit from this by owning the student let's. That are very expensive for what they provide. Who's paying the rent? We are the tax payer! Also why are so many of these university towns so devoid of any productive economy. That they are literally propped up by the students spending tax payer cash there. The only productive part is that now most of the students will also work during thier studies. Because thierlandlord, which is often the actual university. Is rinsing them on the rent!
Ending with £150,000 in dept does not help
I want my grandson to go to his school
Education, education, education, McDonalds.
I went to university for four years to study yoghurt weaving and yak herders tonal chanting.
Give me a job.
They give these courses for money ,. and profit .It ruins the whole ethos of universities .
So glad to see this being brought to the forfront because this issue is well past due.
Teachers don't give a damn about most kids in schools nevermind what they do when they leave i know mine didn't
This country has been failing young people since government took the decision to not implement the 1944 Butler education act.
Now you understand value of your education and technology.
We have enough of that in the U. S.
Too many sheeple in the UK , regardless of degree .IT , accountancy , law and business are useless if too many applying for small number of posts .Engineers are being laid off and AI will replace jobs .BT , and IBM are laying off staff .
When I went to school in the 70's teachers did not even teach kids how to avoid tooth decay, and to the best of my knowledge and belief they still don't now. We were taught logarithms which for me were a complete waste of time because I have never used them, and I guess there must be countless others of my generation that have that testimony.
Kids can avoid tooth decay by not eating sweets and by daily flossing and brushing. Sweets are very artificial. Many are designed to be sucked or chewed in the mouth for a long time and that is what causes them to rot teeth. When a child wants something sweet to eat they must be advised to substitute sweets with things that don't stay in the mouth for long. Eat fruit or biscuits.
Regular flossing and brushing are also important. My parents never taught me to floss my teeth. I didn't start using floss until I became a man. Obviously there are reasons why sweets are not adequately criticized. Mencius said : If your aim is wealth you cannot be benevolent. If your aim is benevolence you cannot be wealthy.
Here here replace the courses with proper productivity and construction in stead of useless media studies
Yeah why not just be a labourer don't be ambitions. In a few years when Netflix or BBC are crying out for Media people to make their shows so labourers can sit at home and binge watch they whine why all the names in the credits and all the faces on screen are foreign. Losers.
I left school and got an apprenticeship at a local engineering company. The company required me to attend a college that later became a university. The course was devised to teach us what we needed to know to to became an engineer. Many years later I was working for another company when someone was appointed to be the boss of my department. I was told he was a university graduate, I later found out that he had a degree in geography. That was really useful in in engineering.
@@wideye2901 All right I won't, not everyone with a degree in Geography is a prat. He once told me, while I was working in Southampton, to 'pop' across to Plymouth for an urgent job. I told him out of the question, it's a 2 hr drive there. He said nonsense, it next door on the map, 30 mind top. I replied that Portsmouth your are looking at, that Geography degree was really useful then.
Parents were flattered. It was obvious to me what was going on. The only jobs available are.. Would you like fries with that. RIP off.
Another Blair fiasco, it is about money, not about educating the youth. I find it absurd that these Mickey Mouse courses, leave them with a lot of debt and a qualification to work in McDonalds. This man is the right sort of person to be a teacher, telling his students and their parents the truth.
My kids are not like that .
We need more like him and less social media.
What industry does the host of this talk show contribute to.
Absolutely, we need vocational education (builders, nurses, plumbers, etc). BUT, don’t blame universities. Politicians are clueless. Polytechnics which taught vocational subjects were made into universities. All universities were expected to do research but ex-polytechnics were more vocational. Then student fees were increased changing the contract between student and university. Many of our politicians read the classics at university (very practical!) and have little respect for manufacturing. What we need is to reduce immigration, develop apprenticeships, stop talking about trans issues, and respect practical and academic ability equally. The universities have just tried to stay in business so have tried to develop courses to attract students. The main fault is with dumb politicians who saw students as cash cows. The real reason Rishi Sunak is attacking the universities is because a large proportion of the student loans will never be paid back! So blame the universities not the dumb politicians who got us into another fine mess!
We need fruitpicking degrees
Judging from the comments Talk TV viewers are all experts in tertiary education.
Kids take gender ideology courses. Where does that get them. They are mickey mouse courses. My nephew in Australia did a degree in Australia. He wanted to be a biologist, but all the students were made to do something similar. When they finished the work wasn't there. They needed Biologists. The uni did not have a teacher to teach Biology so they were lied to
Common sense man❤❤❤❤
Everything that head teacher said is absolutely correct!!!!!
Quite ironic that a guy keeps calling people trendy Wendy’s as that would stick on a video link expected in the early 2000s . 😆. I do agree that what’s the point in doing naff subjects though. but these talk tv things always come with the smell two old men with a strong smell of ipa and cigs .
How about teaching proper, true honest history then ?
Yawn.
Based HT. Wish he was my boss.
Up-to-date footage ?Zombies with masks on ?
All Mike does is worship Tories 24/7 claiming how amazing they are, how the economy is great and unemployment is down... Then him and this div basically say that there aren't enough jobs going around for all university graduates. Make it make sense.
About time
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