Aikido 20 Jo Suburi - Basic Staff Forms
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The Aiki Jo developed by Morihei Ueshiba (O'Sensei) is a method of using Japanese staff techniques to teach the principles of Aikido.
The 20 basic staff movements which form part of the Iwama Ryu syllabus were developed by Morihiro Saito for solo practice with a Jo (wooden staff). They can be categorised in 5 series as listed below.
1-5 TSUKI NO BU - Thrusting Series
1. CHOKU ZUKI - Direct thrust
2. KAESHI ZUKI - Reversed thrust
3. USHIRO TSUKI - Rear thrust
4. TSUKI GEDAN GAESHI - Thrust, then low reversal
5. TSUKI JODAN GAESHI UCHI - Thrust, then high reversal and strike
6-10 SHOMEN NO BU - Striking Series
6. SHOMEN UCHI KOMI - Head strike, stepping forward
7. RENZOKU UCHI KOMI - Continuous striking, stepping forward
8. MEN UCHI GEDAN GAESHI - Head strike, then low reversal
9. MEN UCHI USHIRO TSUKI - Head strike, then rear thrust
10. GYAKYU YOKOMEN USHIRO TSUKI - opposite side head strike, then rear thrust
11-13 KATATE NO BU - One Handed Series
11. KATATE GEDAN GAESHI - One handed strike with low reversal
12. KATATE TOMA UCHI - One handed strike at a distance
13. KATATE HACHI NO JI GAESHI - One handed figure eight strike
14-18 HASSO GAESHI NO BU - Figure Eight Turn Series
14. HASSO GAESHI UCHI - Figure eight turn, then strike
15. HASSO GAESHI TSUKI - figure eight turn, then thrust
16. HASSO GAESHI USHIRO TSUKI - Figure eight turn, then rear thrust
17. HASSO GAESHI USHIRO UCHI - Figure eight turn, then rear strike
18. HASSO GAESHI USHIRO BARAI - Figure eight turn, then rear sweep
19-20 NAGARE GAESHI NO BU - Flowing Turn Series
19. HIDARI NAGARE GAESHI UCHI - Left flowing turn, then strike
20. MIGI NAGARE GAESHI TSUKI - Right flowing turn, then thrust
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Thank you. That was very generous of you to provide this video with the Japanese alliteration and the English Translation. It was so super helpful.
Anytime Bob, glad it was helpful :)
very nice, helps with (re)remembering the suburi for solo practice :) love that you included both japanese and english names for the techniques
I am glad you enjoyed the video. I plan on doing an updated series soon covering the suburis on both sides so keep an eye out for that 😊
I very much appreciate you making this video. It is really helpful in going deeper with Aikido to see the suburi clearly demonstrated. Many thanks.
Glad you found the video helpful. It's worth checking out our video on the 31 Kumijo as the explains application of the Jo.
Thank you for this post. Very helpful to have the names before each.
No problem Gary. Glad you found it useful!
Thank you for the video. Not 100% sure the foot movements are same as the masters, but the angle you did the video was fantastic to see the hand movements and not wearing a Hakama (excuse any spelling error) helps a great deal as well.
Hi Ted. Glad it has helped. You are right. Theres a few things that niggle me about it. Its an old video and I can spot several mistakes now. I should have been using my hips more which would then have a knock on effect to my footwork. Anyhow, it is good enough for reference, there will always be details we can work on. I may rerecord it again at some point.
Check out the 31 Kumijo series we did, there maybe some pointers in there that are useful.
@@AlexanderGent I do notice in other demos how the traditional Aikikai stance seems to be a bit more sideways, and not using hips so much (for example when thrusting) - a bt more "casual"than a traditional stance, I feel. I would say that for Aikido (the DO of training) , the traditional way has more elegance and possibly power, but at a loss of flexibility and speed...
@guyDivinyl Yes there is a bit of a trade off for most things, including Taijutsu - body techniques. Aikikai can look more fluid but lacks power. Whereas Iwama has more power but can lack fluidity. I personally think the ideal place is to be somewhere in the middle. Thats what I try achieve with everything else I do.
The way I move has changed since I filmed this but still not quite like Aikikai. If you check out my most recent video with the Jo doing the 31 Kumijo you might be able to see the difference.
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Also どうもありがとございます!
Thanks but sorry can't translate!
@@AlexanderGent "Dō mō arigatō gozaimas(u)" - "thank you very much"
You are welcome, thank you! I really need to learn Japanese! :)
great
Thank you for the video
You're welcome :)
Obrigado pela ajuda!
Nice :)
Smooth
Thanks Jujitusuka!
I’ve brother!!
How do you do the figure of eight thingymabob? (Hasso Gaeshi?)
Thanks for your question. I am planning on covering figure 8s in a video maybe next month so when I get round to filming I will make sure I address this point.
One hand (normally the right) should hold the Jo in the centre (for the basic movement). This grip does not change during the spin. The Jo rotates around this point. This same arm should have an unbendable arm feeling. It should feel like Iriminage. Also a feeling of Sankyo if you were doing it on yourself! The other hand (normally the left) powers the spin by sliding along the Jo.
Hope that helps in some way!
@@AlexanderGent It's been a long while since
i did any formal Aikido. I officially train in Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate (Hard/Soft school/style of Karate).
We do Kobudo (Traditional/"old way" weapons) as part of our system.
I'm trying to level up my Bo/Jo/Tonfa/Sai handling whilst I have the time, during lockdown.
Japanese is definitely not easy to learn (especially the reading/writing for me), but it's good form of mental training.
Worth trying though :)
I'm impressed if thats not your native language! English is a struggle for me let alone any other languages! ;p
Hopefully I'll learn Japanese some day :)
Thats interesting you do Kobudo. I've played around with the Tonfa and Sai but not really done much with them. Also the three section staff, thats also part of Kobudo right if I'm not mistaken?
@@AlexanderGent you're correct. I just don't have one/don't think I'm skilled enough to warrant owning one yet.
Maybe one day.
I can not recomment anyone to practice with this video. It is wrong in so many aspects. The Jo is meant to be held at the edge and 1/3rd of the length. The way he holds the staff he would lose grip at the first enemy strike. The tip is meant to aim on the head of the enemy instead of the belly... Feet are supposed to face outwards... and many more mistakes...
Thanks for the comment. Im curious to know where the edge of the Jo is considering its cylindrical? 🤔
You are welcome to think what you like. I will be interested to see some footage of how you use the Jo. Perhaps you can upload some videos onto your channel?
I've had no issues before when Ive applied it in kumjo or in sparring. Im curious to know what experience you have?
Looks pretty, thanks for showing your version of these rarely displayed forms.
However, it is really bad.
Thrusting done with limiting your own reach by half hold while thrusting, where you probably want maximum reach. Otherwise you don't thrust because it does not defend you as a swing or strike would. Also are we playing pool or striking? You almost never want to push a stick through your hand because in dynamic combat you'll either hit someone oblique and break the hand you're pushing through, and even if it works you wasted half the power the other hand could lend into a push. Plus you're static and easy to strike.
Second part of form 5 seems like a block w/ low thrust and is ok. Form 6 is weird overhand strike that ends up with crossed arms bounce when you hit, because you're holding the lead hand too high.
Form 8 is also weird, why would you half-stick a low swing? Either you hit the guy or he blocked and is definitely not in reach of that. A full length reversal would work.
Form 11 loses your stick if you hit anything well with the one hand wide sweep - it's held too low and will not lock up on arm which is needed with a one handed sweep. Finish is silly too, do you really expect to end up in this perfect position ever?
Form 12 start is complete bunk, why would you ever want to spread out hands along the ends of a stick when you can hold it in the middle or 3/4 bottom? To lose it when you release one hand?
Form 13 is nearly legit but you shouldn't put the end of the stick in your armpit, hold it in front, and you probably shouldn't just push the stick off with the other hand, hold it.
Form 14, 15, 16, 17 also unnecessarily release the stick with a push, which is great if you want to lose your weapon. You're not throwing a stick at anyone effectively like that, if it hits you will drop it.
Form 19 is nearly good - I wouldn't move hands as much on the stick when reversing, 20 is good except again for the push-through thrust which should be a normal one.
Hey, thanks for your lengthy feedback but I'm guessing by your answer you don't do Aikido nor do you spar with weapons.
I know my forms are not perfect, however I've tested a lot of this stuff and it works. I will still consider your points though. Thank you.
Hmmmm, I actually train and spar with weapons. Specifically Thai swords, H.E.M.A. and Japanese weapons. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@@theoutlander2873 are you referring to me or AstralStorm?
@@theoutlander2873 you cannot simply bring one Arts version of positioning, stance etc, and cross them over individually to another Art. You are simply saying, Aikido should do it the way you have learned. You have to train the Aikido (an Aikido) way, before you can truly criticise.
You mention äbout stance "do you think you would end up in this perfect position ever"- but he whole point of Kata, to train muscle memory not only to go to perfect positions...... they have been developed to help you train yourself (or, your body) to understand the combination of movements of your body and the Jo, so when using it, you can improvise. The flow of movements and stance are not aimed to be realistic for use, they are supposed to train you, to be able to use a Jo in your natural style..
Its a fundamental principle of Physical training using Kata, Poomse, Patterns.
thats why footballers practice dodging around orange cones. Its not to help them in Traffic.