@@FunkadelicPancho no no ur mistaken, i think ur confusing him with the residents old singer randy, they migth look a little similar but be assured its two different people
Residents are totally an Inverted Beatles. If I had to pick a top 10 of all time, they are right up there with my favorite American ‘bands’. The whole idea of ‘residents’ is just an awesome artistic statement because it closely resembles life. And they use the artistic license in almost a shamanic way, and Tweedles is the perfect example of how the artistic mind in control of its faculties can create something that is felt at a deep level no matter the words spoken. They are both shamanic clowns and next level musicians who show zero fear.
Every time i hear Homer speaking, i hear the phrase of the "Not Available" album from Uncle Remus: "Yes Easter island isn`t my land - Coming home once more"
Even if you manage to get through all the "confusion" about NFTs the truth is that its a pure speculative bubble, it doesnt provide anything for the average fan, its not even an actual item or particular physical/digital product you own, its just a "token" that you speculate on and hope that some other sucker that comes along buys it for more than you did. Even if you eliminate the environmental concerns its still just bullshit for people to speculate with and try to make money off of. Every single "interesting" and "massive" NFT project has turned out the exact same way, speculative tokens with some fluff attached so it "feels" like its more than just a financial asset.
Totally get it. I’m not here to take one side or the other and I have never purchased or minted an NFT for the ethical reasons everyone seems to have. But I want to give Homer a fair shake.
@@LorcaLoca I would say collectibles aren’t strictly made to buy and sell like stock. They’re a physical representation of something you love and something you have passion for. An NFT is just a digital good with a receipt that can be copy and pasted endlessly. And often, that digital good is just a jpeg image. Sure it can be argued that NFTs themselves are collectible and allow you to show your passion, etc, but the consensus appears that it’s pretty much a scam to squeeze money outta people. Not saying the residents were trying to scam people, I think they probably didn’t know what they were getting into.
I really enjoyed the interview but it's kind of a false equivalency to compare Tweedles and 3rd Reich's art to NFT. The key difference being one is provocative art as a representation of humanity and the other is provocative art as a placeholder for capital. It's art made for the sole purpose of making money, which at the very least diminishes it's social and personal "value". Still a good enough question to ask Homer - a good interviewer probes deeper into uncomfortable areas.
I agree on the false equivalence. It’s hard to have nuanced take during a live conversation. I’d rather say something stupid and keep the continuity of the chat than edit.
3:58 what?? You absolutely CAN deny a Stolen Symbol equates Genocide!! …hilarious how dense someone could be to say, out loud, & in an interview with Homer! that the Swastika Symbol exclusively equates the holocaust in its entirety, thats just ignorance in its rawest form. Of course the Nazi’s were & continue to be stupid fu***s & the idiots from the 30’s & 40’s did absolutely horrible things. Yet this comment-3:58-completely misses the boat in what Symbols mean…
Also I wish that instead of NFT's artists could experiment more with online products bought with real money, such as subscription services instead of being shackled by the crypto currency which really is the big issue with NFT's. Like NFT’s divorced from crypto currency could be a great thing, it's a shame it has to be forced into the unethical crypto sphere. I will of course try to keep supporting the residents as well as i can (i've bought every preserved cd release except two) and will be sure to support the release of double trouble/triple trouble/lie whenever that might be released!
I'm glad that he is able to look back and say that it was born out of naivety. I think they were definitely trying to say something satirical and critical of rock n roll, relating its conquering commercialism to the beast of fascism, but it was just kind of a stretch and not very tactful or graceful considering the immense monstrosity of the holocaust. Artists will make mistakes and grow. Sometimes you have to step over the line to understand where the line is, why it's there, how it's defined and who defines it. We may not like it, but it's necessary for the growth of a multi-headed culture
It would have been more appropriate to use a $ sign, or the pyramid with the all-seeing eye, for that album, than the swastika. But people just don't understand that connection to dictatorship, because it is all concealed, and sadly accepted.
My personal recollection was that the eye in the pyramid as a symbol of the Bavarian Illuminati was humorously glorified as a statement of rock and roll, sex and drugs and pagan worship by the works of Robert Wilson and didn't really become taken seriously as EVIL by anyone until the Bush family were allegedly involved with an effort to put a gold capstone on the Great Pyramid of Cairo, which sort of opened up a steady flow of conspiracy theory culture with the help of radio broadcasters like Art Bell. I remember the undead Nazi army at the end of the Illuminatus series and thinking "That was a hard, weird turn of tone". Maybe it was just my random grooming in preparation for the subject that left me so confused. If accurate for the zeitgeist at the time, that symbol wouldn't have fully expressed the fascism they were trying to express with the Third Reich and Roll, and as a statement it was also consistent with anti-fascist satirical use of the symbol by the Dead Kennedys around the same time in the early 80s. Likewise, both groups were pushing similar leftist and post-modernist sentiments regarding capitalism and at least in my social group, we saw the two bands as distantly-related in their anarchic style if in no way, their very dissimilar sound and lyrics. I believe more than anything it was the two bands exceptionally stylized album covers that caught our attention.
Yeah Marilyn Manson had a song a few years back called Pretty as a Swastika and the record company wanted to censor that on the sleeve so he used a dollar sign. He’s an ass, but same idea.
You can see the artistic integrity, them wanting to be on the edge technologically. But once their fans explained to them that their isn't currently any cultural value to be had with nfts, only more corporate greed, they chose to bow out. Very cool, thoughtful band...
I think there's a distinction between pushing the boundaries of technology and not knowing the ethics involved. The rock and roll facism album may have aged poorly and was ignorant with its provocative imagery, but I'm glad to see the Residents look back in good faith and change their mind.
I think the rock and roll fascism thing took on a new life after Third Reich and Roll though, The Wall came out 3 years later, and Antichrist Superstar 23 years later. It certainly started a conversation that culturally continued.
Yeah The Residents (and any artist really) doing NFT’s is odd because NFT’s are not really about the artistic aspect, they are manufactured scarcity purely for profit. The closest analogy would be something like The Residents making a limited edition collector’s coin or commemorative plate back in the day, but even then it being a physical object is inherently different than something purely digital.
While I don't think NFTs are good for the economy or the environment, it's really out of my hands to control how people do things. Not my business. Props to Homer and The Residents for doing things their way.
@@MakeWeirdMusic I see it as no different than when they got into laserdisc. It failed, and they admited it. I think with the benefit of knowledge now, Homer would agree that its not something the band need to be involved in UNLESS it was ironic, like the "Buy or Die!" stuff they do. There's just not a net positive to NFT's without a commentary on Capitalism and ownership. Still, its good to see they explored, learned and adapted.
Me and my two friends went to rather rip records I believe was where one of the residence is working I don’t know which one we heard a rumor about that but when I walked in the store I saw the meat the residence album for the first time I heard about the residence I thought it was so hilarious that they took the Beatles Album and graphic over it. I bought that album but back home to Palmdale California Los Angeles and listen to that thing I thought what is this crap but then I listen to it over and over again and I was astounded by then I became true residence fan but pretty much everyone of their albums after that, but it’s still a mystery to us when we went on the record store if one of the residents was actually behind the counter, selling the records
"2:39 That alvejs pissd mie of abavt Vic Mizzy...vhenn thej claimd tou rieleas tha dissq aw Addams Family skoor thej desstrojd tha tuuns bj needlesslj altrinh thie archesstraetschian, innstruumenntaetschian. Thej didd itt tou In Search Of tuu."
It should be pointed out that The Residents used swastikas in thier art the same way the heroic John Hartfield used swastikas in his art: to heap ridicule on Nazis and on inclinations towards fascism. There is nothing "reverent" in The Resident's artwork towards Nazism and Hitler. Indeed, all of The Residents' art is the very definition of "irreverent." Maybe, its even stronger than that. It's more like "anti-reverent." As for the whole NFT thing, I agree, it's the whole idea of it that's snobby and elitist. Even more than "collector's items" the NFT is a snob's idea of a "collectable."
I'm not dismissing what Homer says here but the little bit of facebook comments you showed in the video are literally all in defense of the Residents LMAO - although it's true "NFT" seems to be the PeeWee Word of the Month here in that whenever someone says it everybody screams
"its crazy how people are so mad about NFTs that they forget about hitler " is the kind of sentence that will only occur once in the entire history of the universe. I'm glad I got to be privy to the confluence of factors that made this statement possible.
@@MakeWeirdMusic people like to using power symbols, sadly most who use them have no idea of the true power behind the symbols. My current favorite symbol is ♻️ because it “to me” represents the infinite circle of life, nothing lost just reconfigured into something else. This one’s pretty cool to ☮️
Come on guys! Swastika is a Ancient Symbol of the Sun, Good fortune, you can see it on a new bought car or house in India. What's wrong with a Swastika! Everyone should have One in their house)))
There's nothing wrong with the swastika itself, especially in its original context, but Homer was clearly trying to be provocative with its more recent symbology as well as the "heil Hitler" stances. And the mummified baby dolls
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Love how Homer hides in plain view. He is definitely the David Lynch of music.
he is a legend.
he is not actually Randy Rose or Mr Skull or "the singing resident", He is Homer Fucking Flynn
David Lynch does music though
Thank you for all you do Anthony. ALWAYS high quality entertainment. Especially for us Residents fans 💜
Thanks so much, Paul
I love how he still talks about The Residents in 3rd person.... like those ears could be mistaken for someone else's..... 😂
Say what you want about whether he's IN the band. What he does FOR the band in terms of visual art is incredible.
@@MakeWeirdMusic I would go as far to say he IS the band.
You mean Homer is really LBJ ????
@@FunkadelicPancho no no ur mistaken, i think ur confusing him with the residents old singer randy, they migth look a little similar but be assured its two different people
Residents are totally an Inverted Beatles. If I had to pick a top 10 of all time, they are right up there with my favorite American ‘bands’. The whole idea of ‘residents’ is just an awesome artistic statement because it closely resembles life. And they use the artistic license in almost a shamanic way, and Tweedles is the perfect example of how the artistic mind in control of its faculties can create something that is felt at a deep level no matter the words spoken. They are both shamanic clowns and next level musicians who show zero fear.
The Third Reich N Roll was my first introduction to The Residents-and my favorite album of theirs. Still listen to it alot and still stands up today.
Strange music tends to age better. Fewer attempts to fit a trend.
Every time i hear Homer speaking, i hear the phrase of the "Not Available" album from Uncle Remus: "Yes Easter island isn`t my land - Coming home once more"
An astounding gentleman is Mr Flynn.
Indubitably, Robert!
Even if you manage to get through all the "confusion" about NFTs the truth is that its a pure speculative bubble, it doesnt provide anything for the average fan, its not even an actual item or particular physical/digital product you own, its just a "token" that you speculate on and hope that some other sucker that comes along buys it for more than you did. Even if you eliminate the environmental concerns its still just bullshit for people to speculate with and try to make money off of. Every single "interesting" and "massive" NFT project has turned out the exact same way, speculative tokens with some fluff attached so it "feels" like its more than just a financial asset.
Totally get it. I’m not here to take one side or the other and I have never purchased or minted an NFT for the ethical reasons everyone seems to have. But I want to give Homer a fair shake.
How is that different from collectibles?
@@LorcaLoca I would say collectibles aren’t strictly made to buy and sell like stock. They’re a physical representation of something you love and something you have passion for. An NFT is just a digital good with a receipt that can be copy and pasted endlessly. And often, that digital good is just a jpeg image.
Sure it can be argued that NFTs themselves are collectible and allow you to show your passion, etc, but the consensus appears that it’s pretty much a scam to squeeze money outta people. Not saying the residents were trying to scam people, I think they probably didn’t know what they were getting into.
I saw the Residents in San Francisco in the 70's....the Vestile Virgins was the theme. Strange night.
I really enjoyed the interview but it's kind of a false equivalency to compare Tweedles and 3rd Reich's art to NFT. The key difference being one is provocative art as a representation of humanity and the other is provocative art as a placeholder for capital. It's art made for the sole purpose of making money, which at the very least diminishes it's social and personal "value". Still a good enough question to ask Homer - a good interviewer probes deeper into uncomfortable areas.
I agree on the false equivalence. It’s hard to have nuanced take during a live conversation. I’d rather say something stupid and keep the continuity of the chat than edit.
3:58 what?? You absolutely CAN deny a Stolen Symbol equates Genocide!! …hilarious how dense someone could be to say, out loud, & in an interview with Homer! that the Swastika Symbol exclusively equates the holocaust in its entirety, thats just ignorance in its rawest form. Of course the Nazi’s were & continue to be stupid fu***s & the idiots from the 30’s & 40’s did absolutely horrible things. Yet this comment-3:58-completely misses the boat in what Symbols mean…
Yes. You are smarter than all of us. 🧠
Sometimes art goes too far or is provocative, but artists need to be able to explore the limits to find out where that line is.
I agree. And to have the anonymity to do it is also wonderful, though Homer did admit to doing this art himself.
great interview like always! you definitely conduct the best residents related interviews.
Also I wish that instead of NFT's artists could experiment more with online products bought with real money, such as subscription services instead of being shackled by the crypto currency which really is the big issue with NFT's. Like NFT’s divorced from crypto currency could be a great thing, it's a shame it has to be forced into the unethical crypto sphere. I will of course try to keep supporting the residents as well as i can (i've bought every preserved cd release except two) and will be sure to support the release of double trouble/triple trouble/lie whenever that might be released!
Thanks so much. That’s really kind of you
I'm glad that he is able to look back and say that it was born out of naivety. I think they were definitely trying to say something satirical and critical of rock n roll, relating its conquering commercialism to the beast of fascism, but it was just kind of a stretch and not very tactful or graceful considering the immense monstrosity of the holocaust.
Artists will make mistakes and grow. Sometimes you have to step over the line to understand where the line is, why it's there, how it's defined and who defines it. We may not like it, but it's necessary for the growth of a multi-headed culture
Berkeley was awesome in the 70’s for record stores. Rather Ripped was one of the best.
Homer RULES. i don't even want to consider a future without homer and the rest of the simpsons,.,,,,,,
Good thing Homer doesn't age.
I can hear Homer sing "Blue Rosebuds".
saw them live in 2016 or 17
Yes!
It would have been more appropriate to use a $ sign, or the pyramid with the all-seeing eye, for that album, than the swastika. But people just don't understand that connection to dictatorship, because it is all concealed, and sadly accepted.
Good insight
My personal recollection was that the eye in the pyramid as a symbol of the Bavarian Illuminati was humorously glorified as a statement of rock and roll, sex and drugs and pagan worship by the works of Robert Wilson and didn't really become taken seriously as EVIL by anyone until the Bush family were allegedly involved with an effort to put a gold capstone on the Great Pyramid of Cairo, which sort of opened up a steady flow of conspiracy theory culture with the help of radio broadcasters like Art Bell. I remember the undead Nazi army at the end of the Illuminatus series and thinking "That was a hard, weird turn of tone". Maybe it was just my random grooming in preparation for the subject that left me so confused.
If accurate for the zeitgeist at the time, that symbol wouldn't have fully expressed the fascism they were trying to express with the Third Reich and Roll, and as a statement it was also consistent with anti-fascist satirical use of the symbol by the Dead Kennedys around the same time in the early 80s. Likewise, both groups were pushing similar leftist and post-modernist sentiments regarding capitalism and at least in my social group, we saw the two bands as distantly-related in their anarchic style if in no way, their very dissimilar sound and lyrics. I believe more than anything it was the two bands exceptionally stylized album covers that caught our attention.
Yeah Marilyn Manson had a song a few years back called Pretty as a Swastika and the record company wanted to censor that on the sleeve so he used a dollar sign.
He’s an ass, but same idea.
You can see the artistic integrity, them wanting to be on the edge technologically.
But once their fans explained to them that their isn't currently any cultural value to be had with nfts, only more corporate greed, they chose to bow out.
Very cool, thoughtful band...
I think there's a distinction between pushing the boundaries of technology and not knowing the ethics involved. The rock and roll facism album may have aged poorly and was ignorant with its provocative imagery, but I'm glad to see the Residents look back in good faith and change their mind.
Well said, Boogie. Thanks!
I think the rock and roll fascism thing took on a new life after Third Reich and Roll though, The Wall came out 3 years later, and Antichrist Superstar 23 years later.
It certainly started a conversation that culturally continued.
Yeah The Residents (and any artist really) doing NFT’s is odd because NFT’s are not really about the artistic aspect, they are manufactured scarcity purely for profit.
The closest analogy would be something like The Residents making a limited edition collector’s coin or commemorative plate back in the day, but even then it being a physical object is inherently different than something purely digital.
While I don't think NFTs are good for the economy or the environment, it's really out of my hands to control how people do things. Not my business. Props to Homer and The Residents for doing things their way.
A year later you can see that it was wise to pull out of the NFT scam. Everybody who hyped that stuff smells like shit now.
It was a worthwhile endeavor. The Residents have tried a lot of new tech
@@MakeWeirdMusic I see it as no different than when they got into laserdisc. It failed, and they admited it. I think with the benefit of knowledge now, Homer would agree that its not something the band need to be involved in UNLESS it was ironic, like the "Buy or Die!" stuff they do. There's just not a net positive to NFT's without a commentary on Capitalism and ownership.
Still, its good to see they explored, learned and adapted.
Me and my two friends went to rather rip records I believe was where one of the residence is working I don’t know which one we heard a rumor about that but when I walked in the store I saw the meat the residence album for the first time I heard about the residence I thought it was so hilarious that they took the Beatles Album and graphic over it. I bought that album but back home to Palmdale California Los Angeles and listen to that thing I thought what is this crap but then I listen to it over and over again and I was astounded by then I became true residence fan but pretty much everyone of their albums after that, but it’s still a mystery to us when we went on the record store if one of the residents was actually behind the counter, selling the records
"2:39 That alvejs pissd mie of abavt Vic Mizzy...vhenn thej claimd tou rieleas tha dissq aw Addams Family skoor thej desstrojd tha tuuns bj needlesslj altrinh thie archesstraetschian, innstruumenntaetschian. Thej didd itt tou In Search Of tuu."
Ja!
It should be pointed out that The Residents used swastikas in thier art the same way the heroic John Hartfield used swastikas in his art: to heap ridicule on Nazis and on inclinations towards fascism. There is nothing "reverent" in The Resident's artwork towards Nazism and Hitler. Indeed, all of The Residents' art is the very definition of "irreverent." Maybe, its even stronger than that. It's more like "anti-reverent." As for the whole NFT thing, I agree, it's the whole idea of it that's snobby and elitist. Even more than "collector's items" the NFT is a snob's idea of a "collectable."
I'm not dismissing what Homer says here but the little bit of facebook comments you showed in the video are literally all in defense of the Residents LMAO - although it's true "NFT" seems to be the PeeWee Word of the Month here in that whenever someone says it everybody screams
Yeah I didnt wanna cherry pick. If people wanna seek it out, it’s there. But there are some long comments!
Homer is an original. Where are you? Interesting boxes behind you
We are at Ricky Ricardo's Records in San Francisco.
great interview that rly shows an interesting part of culture. its crazy how people are so mad about NFTs that they forget about hitler lmao
Glad you enjoyed it!
"its crazy how people are so mad about NFTs that they forget about hitler " is the kind of sentence that will only occur once in the entire history of the universe. I'm glad I got to be privy to the confluence of factors that made this statement possible.
I love you homer flynn
Symbols and there uses and abuses
Exactly. This discussion made me think a lot about my own interpretation and how it's changed over time.
@@MakeWeirdMusic people like to using power symbols, sadly most who use them have no idea of the true power behind the symbols. My current favorite symbol is ♻️ because it “to me” represents the infinite circle of life, nothing lost just reconfigured into something else.
This one’s pretty cool to ☮️
@@chestyvulva what's in the backside? Discogs doesnt seem to have a photo of it
I didnt know that ye was a fan of the residents
Where'd you hear that, Paula?
@@MakeWeirdMusic i read it in a magazine or sometin', I dont remember to well
Hardy Fox
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I was a hair's bredth from getting one of the NFT's, and now I'm SO mad I didn't.
They'll come at a later date, I'm aure.
Come on guys! Swastika is a Ancient Symbol of the Sun, Good fortune, you can see it on a new bought car or house in India. What's wrong with a Swastika! Everyone should have One in their house)))
There's nothing wrong with the swastika itself, especially in its original context, but Homer was clearly trying to be provocative with its more recent symbology as well as the "heil Hitler" stances.
And the mummified baby dolls
@@MakeWeirdMusic Wah wah wah wah wah
The question remains: Were Jay Clem and John Kennedy the third and fourth Residents, or were these "extras" in suits?
What would the answer do for you? :)
@@MakeWeirdMusic See most of my dreams realized. Solve all my problems. Rewrite my childhood. So, not much.
I used to watch Nightflight and never saw The Residents.
Wow, that's wild