STARFIELD - A Massive Waste of My Time
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Starfield was a big waste of my time but here's my video on it.
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Az did nothing wrong
I LOVE this game-sorry it wasnt for you.
The porblem here, imo is Bethesda happaned to hit the jackpot with the formlua they created with skyrim, and because it sold so insanely well bethesda feels like they can just put out lazy skyrim clones and everyone will buy them. And the sad part is bethesda can do sci-fi open world at least decently, Despite thier age and flaws, fallout 3 and 4 have enough charm in thier characters, style, crafting, and difficulty in the case of fallout 4's survival mode to keep me intrested, along with not having skill systems that just waste your time with busy work, you unlock a perk and you just have it, simple. Starfeild is just generic sci-fi in art style and theming, and has porblems even those flawed games didnt.
I feel like Pathologic 2 addresses most of these criticisms, because there is a thing it does tremendously well: player accountability. Characters talk with you, have their own style of communication, imperfect information and goals, they are pivoting based on your actions and may even mislead you in major ways. You are not a mighty hero that exists without food, you are a living person in the world and need to balance survival with saving the town and trying to save as many lives as you can while doing it. Its brutal, odd, beautiful, richly fleshed out and always has more to offer to attetive players. Please give it a try, I think you will be happily surprised.
Doom is overrated
See that planet? You can fast travel there.
I was amazing that there's no actual space travel. Especially no crafts to explore the worlds.
The sheer joy of load screening across the universe can't be matched
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so u would have fun flying for hours into nothing? the fuck u talking about
Dude this was the comment I was looking for to make my final decision of uninstalling this game, I have doubts if it was like that just in the beginning but it seems it continues throughout the entire game
Sounds like a prime example of the "Netflix with buttons"-epidemic in modern gaming that Artosis is frequently talking about
But there have been story based games since the late 80s
@@theanimerapper6351 existing and dominating ain't the same thing
As usual Michael Does Life was right.
Don't be so hard on the last of us, personally I can't tell the difference between the show and the game
@@XavierGoncalves89 "everyone's a gaaameeer, we're aaall gaaameeers, I'm gaaamiiiing..."
Next video: 13 reasons why Prey is better than starfield
You only played 21 hours? The game gets good after 21 and a half hours.
I heard!
@@underthemayo 😂
Holy shit its jack burton from big trouble little china
I heard starfield really gets good in New Game Plus:)
@@rjproduction486I heard otherwise 😂
This is great. The lack of an overabundance of bugs and other technical issues, allows people to focus on the REAL problems with how Todd likes his games.
Interesting point. The higher degree of polish reveals the actual stains.
@@underthemayo I stole it from PatricianTV. He's been repeating this point like a parrot ever since he claimed his fame reviewing morrowind several years back.
he likes them bland and uninteresting, just like his women
... you think it lacks bugs and technical issues?
@@lostsanityreturned he is probably on console
Bethesda has this "consequence free" ticket where they can just make terrible individual mechanics because they made really big games with a lot of mechanics.
So you're either blown away by the quantity, or baffled by the quality.
Bethesda get away with so much bullshit honestly
So long as Bethesda has an audience dumb enough to keep buying into their games and being blinded by old nostalgia of Elder Scrolls, they're gonna keep rehashing mediocre versions of Oblivion over and over until the end of time.
Even when some of the mechanics have some reasonable level of quality to them everything is poorly integrated that it feels like it's held together by duct tape. Clearly Bethesda has no unifying vision of what they want the game to be besides "space" and so the hodge podge of mechanics they haphazardly toss together fail to come together to actually make something interesting or coherent.
Bethesda has a cult following.
I didn’t realize how mediocre their games were because of what you said, I was overwhelmed by the quantity they put in their games.
Once I started modding it was a whole new world. You realize how much they they don’t fix and prioritize.
I do find it collecting thousands of potatoes and watch how computer calculates each potato physics.
let's all face the truth: Bethesda and Todd are stuck in 2005. The second I heard from the NPCs I knew this game would be a tired cringefest
@@deanjustdean7818 The biggest issue with Bethesda and their stories in particular, is their head writer. Emil Pagliarulo compared player engagement with his stories to people ripping pages out of a book to make paper airplanes. He then went onto explain that's why he doesn't put effort into his writing. He's such a lazy hack that when he sees players don't care about his writing, he then uses that as an excuse to be even lazier. If he had any talent he would try to write stories that people would actually want to be interested in.
@@deanjustdean7818 Baldur's Gate 3 entered the chat 😊
It seems like Starfield would be mindblowing for 2005, but with so many awesome games out to borrow ideas from, this inventory similater with boring story just doesn't cut it
The writing in this game is _definitely_ not from 2005. It's as modern as you can get, and that's why it sucks so fucking bad.
@@_Jay_Maker_ Gameplay mechanics from 2005. Politics and dialogue from 2023. The worst of both worlds.
Man, my biggest disappointment is that your ship is basically an extra load screen 95% of the time
right? have you played subnautica? indie dev team did that perfectly
@@JakeLondonRivers No man's sky made by 5 people do the spaceship better too
Same. It's so lame.
Glorified fast travel
You waste so much time in menus and pressing/holding buttons. For example, you need to press at least six buttons to move an item from your inventory to your ship’s hold. That is inexcusably poor UI design.
I've played multiple Fallout and Elder Scrolls games and Starfield has the weakest exploration because it doesn't have a well designed world for you to get lost in and encounter interesting events. People have really lowered their standards.
Yea its actually step back from their previous games in terms of exploration. That was one truly excellent thing about their games from the past. They designed very interesting worlds to explore.
Interesting side quests, characters and locations were the only good thing about Fallout 3. Starfield is sterile in comparison, such a bland game.
@sukamadik5983
I completely agree that it is the weakest in terms of hand crafted world building but from a developer's perspective the vast emptiness of so many of the planets makes sense. It's space and that is kind of what you expect with a space exploration game going for the kind of tone it has. I can't fault it for that even if I do not like it.
My first fallout was 4 i liked it for what it was but I recently tried 1 & 2 and 3 and was blown away by my experience. I actually ended up finding a crashed nuka Cola truck and got 9999 caps I also found a crashed ufo and scavved the alien blaster. 🤯🤯
Fucking annoyed me hearing people defend this like, "It's more realistic". Okay, does that make it fun? No
To think a major AAA studio with tons of resources and talent produced this. It's a very sad time for gaming.
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Bethesda hired a AAA studio to work on this? 😳😂😂
I makes you wonder if the shittyness of the game is deliberate like (Hiding alien bodies in a military bunker)!
Talent? The lack of talent and effort is the issue.
"I've never played a Bethesda game, are they all like this?"
Yes.
At least back then when the formula of BRPGs was newer, there was a lot more passion and creativity put into their design. Starfield just makes me feel like an old widow fondling over the grave and bones of her dead lover.
Skyrim was pretty good lol, way better dialogue than Starfield despite being over a decade older. Modern gaming is sad now
skyrym was ok,nothing more
The Dooms are good
No, Skyrim was way more fun. Just fun to walk around and explore.
Not all games are for everyone. This review convinced me Starfield is also not for me 😂. Thanks for saving me the money and time.
that is the main point! but it does not help anyone already bought and played the game (hyped ?) beyond the refund limit. this game hides its long term mediocrity behind its sheer pointless quantity. it is just a matter of time any one (not hyped) realizes that.
Watching this I feel like even doom and doom eternal does a better job at story telling
Less is more, more often than not.
It does. And the engine is much more performant at better graphics quality also.
That's because cheesy 80s action movie plots while nonsensical are still fun.
Agree
Because Doom and Doom Eternal weren't written by Emil Pagliarulo.
You don't need to be a chef to realize when someone trying to serve you shit on a plate.
😆🤣
@@deanjustdean7818well this year has been very good tbh
That's a good line. I'm sick of consumerist shills with their "Just buy product and turn off your brain!" mentality
I guarantee most people these days would listen to a chef if he said it wasn't shit. Listen to the experts has taken over common sense.
No one would play this if they charged money for it.
I wonder how much Todd is actually involved in the development of these games nowadays because clearly he’s lost it or barely works on it and is just the face of Bethesda now.
My understanding is that Todd is more the face and all the shit comes from Emil
he's the director, he's the most involved person in the entire team
He’s literally listed as the game director. People forget that was Obsidian that created the old great games under Bethesda.
Todd is more of just a studio manager than an actual director, he clearly doesn't play the games as they all feel like an E3 tech demo.
what bullshit you talk :D Obsidian only did New Vegas and no other Bethesda Game lol@@johnwicks4936
It is strange how unwilling Bethesda is to innovate. They have alot of leeway, even their broken releases get good scores.
They know their community will do the hard job for them.
I mean it is just fallout 4 in space with a bit of polish and some extra features, strangely I am OK with that tho, I only got it because it was on gamepass, didn't even realise it was a Bethesda game until I booted it up. But I have been playing it the past few days and quite enjoying it, I imagine I will be with the majority of people on that one, I think alot of casual gamers will see this on game pass, give it a try because it's AAA and actually end up enjoying it, I don't think it's leeway, probably more people reviewing before they have fully experienced the game
With the constant financial success of their games, Bethesda has been resting on their laurels.
I’ll give them credit on the one thing that makes a BGS game shine: the feeling of wanting to explore a new world.
Granted that feeling peaked with Skyrim. It’s a shame how that feeling was diluted in Starfield with so many damned menu and map screens interrupting the exploration and combat.
They've been using the same engine since Morrowind. Slapping extra features on it so it can push more pixels. The Creation engine is a real tower of duct tape.
Almost ironic how they have it in its most impressive, polished state at this point only for its obsolescence to be now painfully obvious.
Why innovate when you have a winning formula and time tested engine which have worked and be literal money printers for decades? Never change a working system!
Besides, modders have been proven to do such a much better job at virtually everything than Bethesda devs, that simply giving them a mostly empty sandbox with basic mechanics plus modding tools is the best and easiest way to get your game improved and expanded for years to come with minimum effort and investment.
This game is pure propaganda, pretending to be a game.
hahaha why are you so amusing when dunking on a game.
I don't know. Its a gift, what can I say.
Mayo makes a very entertaining AVGN-like, which is great considering how much that's needed especially with what's mainstream
@@underthemayo And I am always here for it.
Jokes aside - agree with what youve said, despite me enjoying the game. I enjoy these sandbox games but it doesnt mean things cant be better. I do think so many dialogues (at least for the main quest) should be cinematic, AI could be better and quests can be more than fetch quests.
@@SmoughTown It's nice when someone who likes a game can see where I'm coming from on the points. It's not like I'm trying to make people hate it if they like it. This is just my experience and what I think the issues were that kept me from liking it.
@@underthemayo 100% and you are always really good at clearly defining the issues as you see it
great video as always
As long as one big Bethesda title does not flop catastrophically, and hit their wallet real hard, they will never learn to look around what the industry is dooing while they're stuck in 2007. They will never change engine, improve on dialog, role playing, story telling, shooting, polish in general. I think if you really love Bethesda and want them to be on the top someday in the future, you should NOT buy this kind of avarage dumpster of polygons. Some people, sadly, can only understand money.
The reason they're stuck in '07 is because effort is a naughty word, Emil Pagliarulo (who is also responsible for bad stories) said as much in his 'Talks From Story' presentation.
He has also made other Freudian slips in it, such as how he thinks the players are too stupid for his 'great American novel' and that Skyrim was biblical.
Or you know, it's maybe just not your kind of game, reviews show how successful this game is, alot of people love it, alot of people dont, it's just another solid Bethesda rpg. Maybe instead of just focusing on negatives, you should draw out both positives and negatives, find a balance, I know I have, and I'm still really enjoying the game. You can't fault people for liking something, and you can't fault people for hating something.
Wasn't Fallout 76 a major flop for them? God that game was bad!
@@LordMalice6d9 yeah it was at launch, it was more of a test to see what an online fallout game would be like, and it was ambitious to say the least. Apparently the game has actually gotten better now, but don't quote me on that. I might check out the game if it's on sale some time.
@@jasperfox6821 Lol, imagine trusting mainstream critics in 2023. Or YT'ers, who profit from making 'content' covering hot topics.
It just show pathetic state of AAA games and that gamers at this time will treat any boring, pathetic 6/10 mediocore clusterfuck like godsend
I've not seen anyone giving this game a lot of praise. Metacritic scores are; 84 from critics and 65 from users.
And pay "Advanced Access" aka 100 bucks for it xD
Hey if your dumb enough to buy a "remastered" game from 10 years ago every time it's released then why not a brand new pile of sht.
@@vangoth74 For me in Poland it is around 85/86$ for the base game and 125$+ for "premium".
That is why so many "shills" reviewing this game is dangerous for me.
They want to "rose tint" my judgment, either fueled by money/bonuses from the creator or by their fanatical admiration of said creator.
So many emotion-fueled reviews... good to have some like this review.
Well not really tbh I’ve seen a lot of hate for this game, it’s just mainly Bethesda shills and Xbots that are riding Starfield lol
Funny. I am the opposite. I love Fantasy and find Sci-Fi tedious. At least we can both admit our biases and yes, the one word that best describes Starfield is mediocre. Keep on keeping on Lord Mayo!
As someone who likes both, they're both pretty much the same to me.
By trying to make sci-fi and fantasy hyper realistic and grounded you're doomed to make them boring unless you make them in the right way
Hey, it's you! Here's to wordly pleasures
I like both, but for RPG’s I prefer fantasy settings for some reason
Bethesda went from being the most respected game devs of the 2010s during 7th gen to a joke now
That's what happens when you let a company that actively commits to shitty practices get away with rehashing and reselling the same game over and over ad infinitum.
@@spimpsmacker6422 wdym? Skyrim only got rereleased about 10 times. :P
If you don't like it don't play it or go make your own. This is only your opinion about Bethesda
@@captainphasma598 they’re allowed to voice their opinion. Calm down buddy, you can still enjoy starfield
@@hayeshigginbotham5377 trogs will never understand this, they are brainless coomers.
1:04 You’re the fucking best bro.. LMFAO 🤣
He even put the wrong year for added lulz
I love the joke as well.
im sick and tired of bethesda getting away with doing the bare minimum and then getting praise for it cause modders will do their dirty work and sweep up
it is an embarassment. alot of these things were BS in 2011
it honestly feels like this company is that one really dumb friend with no real skill, job, money, or drive but people still let em hangout because they grew up together
Oblivion sorta made them famous because no one played a game like that up until that point (I know, Morrowind existed but PC gaming hadn't hit mainstream yet).
And I LOVE Oblivion... but mostly for its world, aesthetic, and the other charming things about it... functionally speaking, however, it's a total mess and by today's standards it's akin to a big restaurant serving you a dish that looks really nice but tastes surprisingly, disappointingly bland.
And the problem is Bethesda NEVER moved away from that.
@@Impalingthornyep...I don't mind people liking the game, but there are people saying this game is goty contender is such a wrong take because it's another Bethesda ass Bethesda game with really no innovation or growth..this is your typical run of the mill Bethesda game but this time it's in space..that same old Bethesda formula lost it's charm for me after fallout 4
@@MrGrim504 "Bethesda ass Bethesda game" That's perfect.
The ones to blame beside the mediocre job of the developers is the people who make pre orders.
Gaming in 2023 by Bethesda:
1) Sell broken, bare bones game for full price claiming its AAA open world RPG
2) Purchase hundreds of fake 10/10 reviews the week before release
3) Pretend to not hear any of the negative feedback
4) Make players wait years while modders that don't work for Bethesda fix the game/add the content
5) Sell those mods back to players with a "creation club" stealing all the profits of other people's work
6) Re-release the game 7 times over the next 10 years as "definitive" or "legendary" editions
This should be ILLEGAL.
Gaming by Bethesda since 2000s... It just works!
I have a major gripe with how a lot of people talk about this game, specifically this throwaway line in defense of the game - "*mentions problems with the game* - but at least the combat is finally good now." NO, they fixed the FEEL of shooting and the feel of the guns, but NO the "combat" is still what it was 10 years ago, it is still absent of any kind of combat chess, not even typical AI programming for standard encounters (snipers hiding? melees pushing you?), they're all just standing bullet sponges who hardly even react to you, maybe they hide in cover, mostly they just stand around and die for you.
I know it's always been like this with 'Bethesda-RPG', but cmon, it's 2023, maybe try a LITTLE. Half of the game is you playing an first person shooter, but the first person shooter combat is still stuck in 2008 (actually that;s not fair, Bungie made good AI back in the 2000s, Bethesda just never bothered).
Everything under the hood of this game is DATED. It just has a shiny new coat of paint, but it's still the same old dated game they just keep re-skinning with fantasy, nuclear wasteland, and now it's space.
Yeah I thought the combat itself was awful. It's just that some of the guns feel really nice and that keeps me amused.
True Bungie nails combat loops since Marathon, with enemies that always complement each other in new ways at each new encounter, keeping things fresh and challenging.
I could go on but it'd just be another rant about how boomer shooters are much better than newer, less creative stuff.
In fact you know what, thinking back to Marathon I can't believe how much more engaging that game is than Starfield ; the setting is actually fascinating, they take the space theme and actually do something with it - the story is thrilling, much more creative, it's never boring, combat, weapons and gameplay are leagues above... pretty insane.
FEAR had so much better AI almost 20years ago. To be fair that was a linear game but even then it is almost 20years. It should be possible to do it in a Open World today
@@daskampffredchen not really you’d think but when you get into code you find a world of disappointment they say your only limit is your imagination but it’s actually the limit of code complexity in each individual instance small team less code less conflict more game a lot of people think games are a trash bag you can fill them but they have a limit
That version of Bungie is dead and died with Halo-the Destiny era is just riding the coattails of that code. @@NKWittmann
Excellent, because you are explaining objective problems with the game. Not just opinion, but real problems and tediums you'll have to tolerate if you want to enjoy the game.
I try, I try... I throw in my own personal grievances too, because it's my personality. I wanna express myself. I hope people can tell the difference between the two.
@@underthemayo Your take is good, because there are a lot of apologists for the game who dismiss any criticism as just the opinion of haters. Your point about the game not doing what it is trying to do is spot on. Sometimes, these days, games are released broken and then greatly improved (eg No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk). I hope that can happen for Starfield, but it won't if the apoliogists keep saying they like it as it is (TBH I don't think they do, I think they are letting their wish for what the game should be, drown out that it really isn't that game).
keep doing that Mayo, I love this format because that's how I understood your God of war criticism even If I enjoy first time, but I couldn't play a 2 time.@@underthemayo
they're just opinions
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Even if i don't agree with your opinions on games all the time, i greatly appreciate you laying your bias on the table before the review starts. It lends you a genuine feeling in your criticisms and let's your audience get a feel for your preferences. I always enjoy the videos though.
It's crucial to do that. These kinds of videos depend on that clear communication.
Word. That's what made me start recommending the channel to people. There's great insight into games, and a view I almost always agree with sure, but I won't recommend a channel unless the creator is aware enough to know their own view has limits. Damn good stuff.
That's largely why I like Mayo and why all the criticism towards him is annoying to me.
He's not necessarily being biased, he has biases but so does everyone. He is just into certain types of games and when he plays or gets recommended one he/someone else thinks he'll enjoy he's just honest about how he felt. It's very personalized, he isn't saying what others want him to say or that his experience is universal, he's just offering PERSPECTIVE and I feel like a lot of his critics don't quite grasp that.
I mean h*ll, we're Silent Hill and Resident Evil fans. Things like jank gameplay, badly recited dialogue and poor entries to the franchise come with the territory.
@@Impalingthorn You’re ignoring the part where offering perspective can have massive influence on viewers. Especially to those gullible ones. A kid watching this who haven’t played Starfield before, will be prone to automatically agree that the game is not worth playing just by listening to him talk and watching the nitpick clips that he puts on the video. Just because he tries to acknowledge his bias, it doesn’t hide the fact that ultimately he does want people to like and agree with his opinions. To grow the channel. To grow a fanbase. In that case, people who become fans are not looking for fair reviews. They’re just here to listen to his voice and engage in the circlejerk.
@@ruok3351so what's your point exactly? Being open about you biases is bad? Making reviews of any kind are bad because the person watching might be gullible? Seriously what is your point
There are serious problems even for those who enjoy the tedious base/ship customization stuff. For example, you design your perfect starship.. it has all the right compartments in all the right places. You spend 5 hours setting out little touches on the interior.. plates on the tables in the mess hall, sandwiches on the plates, display pieces in your captains quarters, books on the shelves, etc, etc, etc.
You then decide to put a little bit of flair on the paint job, and make the trim be a bit bolder in the ship builder... and.... all items have been moved to the cargo hold... because reasons.
Even if you just want to keep your weapons in a chest separate from all the junk you want to sell, the second you switch ships or change anything they get tossed into the hold for you to painstakingly sort again.
And if you keep adjusting your ship.... It'll duplicate every item into the cargo hold every. Single. Time. Making it so that you have to spend 5 minutes grabbing the junk out of your cargo hold for every little change you want to make to your ship, and then there's no "jettison all/sell all" option unless you get mods. Just a baffling level of incompetence
...At least in Skyrim one could have a few wonderfully implemented quests, e.g. the hangover after drunken night with Sanguinius, where the idea of "walk around, find people through quest list and speak with them" has been actually supported by scenes where every next meeting contextually showed new, _unique_ and _genuinely interesting_ consequences of your party night.
No such things in Starfield, it seems.
The only forking consequences are the difference between doing a stealth quest with or without kills. And all they do is dock your pay and scold you once.
Although The Hangover mission is bugged and you can short circuit it by accidentally talking to people out of order.
All Skyrim had was a few wonderfully implemented quests... but the world, the exploration... that's what made me play it for so long... to enjoy it for so long.
I was having fun up to the 25 hour mark. And then the reality of it all came crashing down around me. I think I got lost on my own ship trying to find the cockpit at the time.
Love the Techno Syndrome cover at the end of the video. You're truly a man of many talents.
I'm here specifically to impress YOU baby. Hope you're doing well.
OMG it’s Proteh
Im glad im not the only one completely disappointed by this game. I went into with no expectations and man eight hours in all ive done was fast travel back and forth a million times. I cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone finds the game play interesting other than the rp aspect like you said. I hope this game is looked on poorly so people dont obsesse over it for years like they do other Bethesda games
This game "looked" so cool that I almost bought an xbox, but reviews like yours tell me Im glad I just went to Cyberpunk, which was free.
@cowel8734 i love in cyperpunk how it allows us to craft many kinds of grenades not sure if starfield has this but that blew me away
You should stop being so apologetic about your opinions. Anyone who needs to be told they are allowed to like a game despite your opinion of it is not someone you should bother engaging with.
I do need to clarify my position on games outside my area though. It helps tame the comments section at least a little bit on these very negative videos. I don't think I'm apologetic. I don't feel bad about my opinion of Starfield one bit. But I do think it's important to be detailed about where I'm coming from.
Thanks for helping me avoid this game
You saved your self a lot of wasted time, I wasted $100 on it like an idiot and learned my lesson the hard way.
@@rocketsocks3116 same here I regret it so much.
@@rocketsocks3116same. Wanted to love this game.
I totally agree on everything you said about Starfield and THANKS for mentioning the TERRIBLE weapon reload mechanics that NO ONE ELSE seems to be mentioning. I was SO frustrated by it all the time I thought I had already reloaded, tried to shoot someone and it started to reload again.
It's so dumb when games do that crap.
Basically my thoughts exactly once I finished the main campaign. Starfield made me appreciate the older Fallout games and even Cyberpunk more. This game is a tedious mess.
Cyberpunk, even with its limitations at the narrative level (it seems to me that Witcher 3 is the best work at the cdpr narrative level) is much better in almost every possible aspect than Starfield.
The storytelling, world, lore, and characters, graphics - are amazing In CP2077. Game was made with love, Starfield wasnt.
That’s the thing about you and Yahtzee: you have acquired tastes and dislike a lot of things I usually like. But I see where you’re coming from and respect your opinion so much that I still stick around to hear you out.
Appreciated!
Mad respect. Be prepared to hear nothing but "you obviously don't know bEtHeSda games"
And "hOw iS tHe gAme bAd iF yOu PlAyEd MoRe ThAn 10 hOuRs?"
gaming is dying. the players are like mindless hogs that play whatever and can't really tell the difference between a game and a chore.
companies are just cash grabs. I'm sorry I'm not a game dev but 7 years and you can't make a decent game?
People mindlessly defending Starfield as anything other than another Bethesda product that refuses to fix the issues of their last 5 games and get a better game engine are honestly why I have no respect for modern gaming. The fact that "Wait for the day one patch" is now a thing people say to defend games RELEASING broken is indicative of everything wrong with consumer standards right now.
@@Impalingthorn What issues of their last 5 games did they not fix? Also their game engine is fine for what they accomplished with Starfield. Notice I didn't say good, I said fine. If they changed their game engine then people like you would complain that people can't make mods anymore like they used to. You would also have to wait an extra few years for their next game which would mean we maybe wouldn't see TES6 for almost an entire decade. Do you realize how ridiculous and impractical that is? Not to mention, the game would still be buggy because it's not like Bethesda is trained in whatever new engine they'd have to learn.
Day one patches are pretty much how a game releases even though it's technically not the exact release minute. It sucks but games do them so they can be better, it allows companies to work on games a few extra months before shipping them out. Do you want to go back to the times where games released broken and stayed broken, when we never got massive updates to games? Ideally a game gets released complete and then patches come out in the following days or weeks which fix some things. This is what Starfield did.
@@xx_amongus_xx6987 I'll answer your first question with a few questions of my own. Why couldn't Starfield launch with an FOV slider? Why is Starfield's mouse acceleration so horrendous and isn't adjustable in game? Why is Starfield so poorly optimized for modern hardware that's better than what is recommended? Why was there no exclusive fullscreen option? Why does the game look so absurdly ugly -- not in art direction, in pure graphical fidelity -- with low resolution texture quality even when all of the settings are maxed out?
Mind you, these are only a handful of the issues that were present in their previous games that got carried over into Starfield. Those are all really basic things in other games. I hesitate to even call them "features" because they're standard for just about every other AAA company using any other engine in this day and age. Games didn't release broken and remain broken as commonly as you might want to believe, but I will concede that this has ALWAYS been the issue with Bethesda games.
the second phrase I saw multiple times on steam reviews lol
Dark Souls 2 GOTY
Let's gooo
With Todd Howard Bethesda games you have to change your way of thinking. It isn’t about continuity of characters and reactions to events, it’s about the world being your sandbox. You are the god of this universe. First of all play in first person. Third person is always a fun novelty but never the ideal way to play them. Secondly you decide what you do in these kinds of games. If you aren’t enjoying the story, stop playing the story. The fun is adventuring all over and doing whatever it is you find interesting. Want to kill things? Do it. Rob people? Do it! Collect resources and build up your ship? Do it. Kill people and pile them up inside one building? Hell yeah, go for it.
These games are made to last for years and years. It’s the same reason why people STILL play Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and NV. These games are meant to be evergreen titles that you don’t rush through in a weekend, that’s the worst way to play them and of course you’d get bored, zone out and tire of them. You’re meant to play for an hour here and there and find joy in your own way. Occasionally binge it for 8 hours on a Saturday and struggle to move the next day. It’s about the journey, not the destination. So if you rush through everything, of course you aren’t going to have fun. Anyway that’s my two cents and I’ve been enjoying these games since Morrowind.
I Just Finished Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 (Legendary Edition) loved it .
Can't believe those old games have better voice actors and dialogue than a 2023 AAA game .
Bro during that same hostage mission I picked a lock in front of one of the gang members. The cops that were waiting outside for me to negotiate busted in and arrested me.
"are all bethesda games like this", YES
6-7-8 MILLION players....noone bothered with reviews
i remember when Outer Worlds came out and did the same things Starfield does, and the general consensus at the time was "well Starfield will do it better" and didn't. Outer Worlds ended up being being way better than Starfield, it was smaller, more engaging and had unique characters.
Yeah the outer worlds really ruined starfield for me. I was bored senseless by like the 10 hours I played.
Being a UA-camr must be tough. You gotta play these games that you know you wont like because for some reason people love to see their favorite youtubers shitting on things. I admire your craft and thank you for your sacrifice.
I suffer for you.
"... for some reason" And the folks who genuinely trust certain YT'ers and trust that they'd give a fair critique of a game to decide whether they'd waste money on it or not. That happens too.
Goes both ways, thats why shillup is so popular, have someone spew hyperbolic garbage in your ears about the favourite new hype game
UA-camrs are Jesus
Ha ha, thanks for saving me several hours finding out what I suspected about this game based on watching gameplay videos. I'll give it a few months and see if modding has improved things 😉.
Honestly if a game existed with rpg elements that were as well implemented as baldurs gate 3 where choices mattered and the world felt real and not bloated and carefully curated plus had the platforming and combat like from classic gow games or doom it would be perfect for me. and if it had a theme that underthemayo liked instead of fantasy it was sci fi then it would be perfect for him.
I get the sense that you would love Mass Effect.
modded Fallout New Vegas is there
Torment: Tides of Numenra.
So you basically want a game that does several massively different genres at once perfectly.
@@Phantom-kc9ly the nerve of people wanting things.
I know you were miserable Mayo, but im glad you made a video on Starfield 😂
This was a really fair review. I was on the fence if I should buy it now or w8 for mods. I will try it eventually but just decided that I have better games to play for now...
It's a shame you can't do medieval games cause BG3 literally blows Starfield out the water in every aspect.
Yeah I can see that just from the outside.
It doesn't. Starfield better
@@underthemayo I think you'd hate BG3 even aside from the medieval aspect. Everything is based on a die roll. EVERYTHING. Want to go down a specific storyline? Pass a check, which requires a die roll. Want to lockpick a box? No lockpicking minigame, just a die roll. Want to sneak past someone? Die roll. Every attack in combat needs to pass a die roll. That means you can be standing right in front of an enemy who's huge and impossible to miss, and you can *still* miss that enemy if you rolled a low number. You're constantly savescumming. It's atrocious.
As someone who likes Starfield, your review is completely and utterly...fair. You absolutely nailed the issue with Starfield's (and other BGS games) story telling, perfectly putting into words what I couldn't articulate. Even if someone could argue Starfield's story is decent on paper, how the game chooses to tell it is far from it and really boring most of the time. BGS games _do_ shine when they show rather than tell - there's a late game main mission called Entangled that does this fantastically, but it's like BGS still hasn't learned that lesson and just happens to get it right sometimes.
Your comment about the challenges for perks not tallying unless you unlock the tier is 100% on point (and I also think some of them are over tuned), even if I do ultimately like perk system overall. I mean really, there's a lot in here that I agree with, and to be fair I just said "likes" for effect; I "mildly like" the game. I appreciate the honesty on how much you played and that you spoke about what you experienced, not making assumptions. Good and fair review even though I come in slightly positive about the game.
What did you enjoy about the game? I enjoyed TES II-V but I'm 30 now and I've gone off a lot of open world games. I don't think I have the patience to play games where it's mostly busy work
@@xSabinx1 well enjoy is probably a stronger word than what I would use lol. The thing the game gets right the most for me is the thing BGS often gets right the most: world building and environmental storytelling. But I would easily recommend other games over this one even when focusing on that.
@@xSabinx1well i can say I'm just enjoying things like ship building, or just what I'm doing with my character build, doing side quests, enjoying the story of the main quest.... although actually playing though the main quest is a bit dull. But yeah, building bases, exploring planets and mining, it's just what I find fun about the game really, and I'm really happy with starfield. Not only that but Bethesda can only improve the game over times, that's what I love about modern gaming, devs can improve games easily. 😊
Ngl my respect for Mayo went up when I saw he didn't like Starfield too or glaze over the issues unlike other reviewers
Starfield is an average game with bugs. The game was overhyped and didn't deliver. Fans giving this game perfect scores are truly dillusional.
Glad I'm not the only person who prefers a cutscene to standing around watching a bunch of NPCs talk
It's so much better right? Why am I holding up for 2 minutes while I listen to someone talk? Make this a cutscene that's pleasant to watch, and then skippable at least on replay.
@@underthemayo Uh so like most linear single player games? Uncharted? GoW? There’s a place for everything.
There's a reason storytelling is told like this in these type of games. The entire point is to never break gameplay, to never lose immersion. Of course you have to keep the story light and the dialogue brief. At the end of the day though you're never gonna have the same level of narrative story telling as other types of games.
@@gamble777888 The issue I have is similar to Mayo, if I'm just standing around while an npc model talks to me, its more immersion breaking as I could be jumping around or whatever. It's also less interesting than a nicely directed cutscene. It's not an all or nothing thing, just a preference.
@@markm5927 I understand completely, but I think what I'm trying to communicate is that these games prioritize "the world" and "player freedom" over "the narrative". I don't disagree narrative will suffer from this delivery, but the idea is to make the world feel as real and "alive" as possible, and NEVER to take control away from the player. Of course in a game like Starfield, where the world already is so far from immersive, and there's so little freedom in so many ways, why even have these type of dialogue dumps? Done right though like say, in Oblivion, way back in the day, this delivery consistent with all the other design elements built around the idea of "hey you are in this world, do whatever the fuck you want at all times" it was, incredible.... That's what they are going for. Bethesda games are NOT story driven games, they are player freedom driven games. I've played skyrim for hundreds and hundreds of hours and never cared and still don't care about finishing the main story, or really any of the other major stories. The story is I'm living in this world. That's the story.
If you look up a video of Fallout 4/Skyrim jank compilation you’ll get a good idea of the “Bethesda Experience.”
Why I wasnt hyped at all and was confused why people were hyped. It is just another Bethesda game
Seriously though, I was so confused as to why people were getting hopeful. I thought for a moment them getting purchased by Microsoft might fix things but then I remembered Microsoft's habit of not managing their IP's at all unless it was to put in microtransactions and backpedaled.
That, and any and all faith I might have had disappeared after Mick Gordon exposed how venomous they are.
@@Impalingthornpoor Mick. Hope he is doing good nowadays
Classic Mayo, doesn't understand RPGs. This is just how they are. It's your responsibility to find fun in the game. There are fun things you can do. It's not the game's fault that you're bored. Try experimenting with other tactics even though they're totally unnecessary.
This reads like parody. Can't tell.
So many people are in the comments coping already and mayo just uploaded the video like a few minutes ago, you guys just need to accept the game is just bad and Bethesda sucks now
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "bad". Let's not make it a war.
There's just people that like a lot the feeling of Bethesda's games, I personally don't like it, but I feel happy that a lot of people is having fun
@@underthemayo It is bad, that's the thing. It is designed to appeal to the masses instead of the fan of a genre.
That's why tasteless is successful.
Bathesda fanboys are like that, they are a joke among jokes.
@@underthemayo No war? Come on, i gathered all my heavy gear and got excited and ready to spill blood.
Starfield is so sick, Game of the decade for sure! 💯 🙌
It's amazing that after Skyrim released, Bethesda still has the same old animation style for NPC dialogue even after 12 years.
I remember how in Horizon Zero Dawn, people were complaining about how stiff and lifeless the NPC's animations are whenever they spoke to Aloy. However in the Frozen Wilds DLC and in Forbidden West, Guerilla Games showed the fans that they listened to feedback and gave NPCs fluid animations that showed them walking around Aloy or doing certain things like drinking or tending to their wounds, etc.
Just eat your toddslop and be happy.
Oh you played 21 hours only? Too short for a review, at 100 hours it gets good 😊
Oh, you played 100 hours and didn’t like the game? Only a troll would do that, if you play 100 hours, you clearly enjoy it 🤫
Oh, but jokes aside, strange characters? Mate, Fallout 4 with the synths and the Railroad already surpassed everything Starfield could offer, robots that can kidnap and replace anyone at any moments, fake their lives until they hear a “password” so that they can kill whoever they are ordered, and the Railroad, a human group, in a post apocalyptic scenario with scarce resources focuses all their resources in “saving” them, fanatically so, putting the well-being of synths above humans because they see them as both humans and victims. The hell is wrong with this company’s writers?
If they wanted realism in Starfield, they should have given spaceships inertia. I couldn’t believe it when I first entered space combat and realised I could effectively stop on a dime by just turning off the acceleration.
I'm gonna sound like some gatekeeping elitists but I feel like star field and many modern games are just made for the most basic and casual players. It's just pure quantity over quality. On one hand I understand that a lot of people just wanna relax and play a space RPG for a few hours a day but I really want some more variety and challenge in games. It feels like gameplay is being sidelines in video games which is absurd. It's either some interactive movie with a very basic combat system like the new god of war games or some mind numbing rpg with shallow, barely working mechanics. But as long as it's 50 hours long and has a lot of stuff to do it's apparently already a good game. Constantly settling for mediocrity will only lower our standards gradually. Star field isn't bad but you can't convince me that it doesn't belong in the 2010-2015 era.
To sum it up, I would far rather have a well made 10-20 hour game with replay value instead of some lifeless generic 50 hour checklist clearing simulator.
i think this game is a great example of a game without a soul, and a game that forgot what a game is supposed to be.
Valid points. Especially the part about sounding like actors reading lines. Some of the acting is good like the female UC captian but the way the scene/ models are framed it’s a disconnect, so it’s off putting. Personally I like the game, so I can over look many of the things. Glad I never ran into that death loop. That’s crazy
This game pretty much turned out exactly how I expected it. A soulless broken and buggy fallout 4 clone that's now in space. They should have just called this mess fast travel loading screen simulator.
Todd Howard is the kind of guy to call this mess of a game his magnum opus when it's probably one of their worst games in my eyes. If this is the state of gaming now, I'd hate to see what Elder Scrolls 6 will be like.
Bethesda peaked with skyrim and has gone downhill ever since Fallout 4 came out. They know this as well due to the number of times skyrim was re-released and it won't surprise me in the slightest if they try re-releasing it yet again
For me, 60% of my time was spend trying to keep myself immersed in the world through load screens, creepy stares and awkard graphic, fetch quest after fetch quest and trying not to piss of my companion by the simplest things. Truly 10/10 if you have never touched a video game before.
I literally cannot fathom how this happened. SF is one of the worst games ive ever played and ive been playing games since the early 90s. I cannot understand how BGS thought this was ok. They are dead. ES6 gonna be a dumpster fire.
I love your honesty dude 👍👍👍
Some people haven't played the game enough to make a sound assessment. I bet people will complain about Assassins Creed and Cities Skylines 2 when they get released. It's the new trend. Whine about everything and pretend to be an expert. I watched other pseudo experts whining about BG3 and CyberPunk77. People are just so whiney. I think antidepressants may help.
makes me sad to see how good bethesda games could actually be
Obsidian showed us how good they could be
@@IzunaSlapobsidian isn't perfect either. Most of the staff that were in the studio at the time they made New Vegas were the original devs of fallout. Not the case anymore. Baldurs Gate and Fallout 1 and 2 are the best we can really hope for in non tabletop rpgs
when the modders can do wonders in skyrim and fallout 4, idk how bethesda could mess this up
As much as I don't like some of your other reviews, this is one I have too completely agree with. It's just another fallout, far cry, skyrim, or litterly any other open world rpg within the last 10 years. No new interesting skills or abilities. No really good story. Just bland, bland, bland. It is litterly the most not good but not bad game ever. There is nothing objectively bad, but nothing stands out at all.
It's crazy, hella people said it would be like this, including me. Fkin Fallout 76. And people still bought it! A big reason why crud like this game still exists and gets pumped out.
gaming has been dead, ketchup
I tried to warn so many people in early access but the Xbox fanboys just would not accept any criticism. Look at it now.. it’s burning up in a giant ball of flames.
Did you try "Into the Breach"? It's pretty much a Pacific Rim mod for Chess. It's the closest thing to a perfect game i've played since Punch-Out Wii.
He even has a video of it.
Yeah it's one of my best performing videos.
That game was great. Haven't seen any other game commit to only input rng quite like that since.
punch out is such an amazing game. So simple, yet addicting and perfectly tuned, and also has some of the most gorgeous animation work i've seen in all gaming.
Yeah, this game was really really bad. I don't get it. This is from the same people that made Skyrim. How could they let something so bad get through all the way to release? Maybe patches will fix some things over the next few years, but I can't see myself having enough attention span to actually care or check later on.
Just realign one's perception so that Baldur's Gate 3 is a scifi adventure where you're abducted by tentacle aliens for some weird experiments before crashing on a low tech alien world.
I love this
The casual gamer thinks mediocrity is amazing. If it has decent graphics they'll play any old crap.
If you think about it... 🤔 sub-urban religion cults and ninjas fighting gods in interdimensional travels - it's kinda what happens in DnD setting in general, and in BG3 in particular)
Technically, fits the requirements))
Yeah my friend took issue with me calling it medival fantasy, because the DND universe is so expansive. And I get that. Still, the aesthetic generally isn't for me. I look at those characters and monsters and settings and I say nope.
@@underthemayo I wonder how do you feel about upcoming Rogue Trader (and maybe WH in general).
After about 25hrs of gameplay...this game felt tedious. One day i turned it off and never felt the urge to turn it back on. I went ahead and uninstalled it. I could go on all day. But theres reviews for that ; p
It’s crazy to see Bethesda still sticking with the tired old formula they started back in 2002 with Morrowind.
So glad they did
Tired or time proven? You know how much money Todd has made with this formula in those 2 decades since Morrowind?
@@axelhopfinger533 that’s great doesn’t necessarily make it fun.
hey now, you're forgetting they dumb it down with every iteration.
@@michiganjack1337 You don't seem to understand: Bethesda games are about the fun the modders have with improving it to the products they always should have been from the start. And the fun Todd has with the vast amounts of money he makes off their unpaid work.
game industry 2023 = cancer.
Support your local indie dev.
I can hear the fanboys on Twitter and reddit getting their keyboards ready to flame tf out of you, fwiw I agree it's mid a 6/10 at best
From all I heard from this video, you seriously need to play a bit of Mass Effect. It's highly likely you'll find exactly what you're looking for with those games!
LOL This does make a lot of sense. Thanks for giving reasons and not just complaining that you didn't like it. I agree with all of these reasons and it's even made me reevaluate my own reasons for playing. Nice video. 👍
Bro, you put the not liking the medieval fantasy setting into great words. I, too, find it incredibly boring. I used to think I just didn't like Dark Souls games. Turns out if you slap a post apocalyptic texture pack on it and fill it with anime waifus. I'm all about that.
Thanks. Yeah, I get a lot of flak for not being impressed by dark souls / elden ring's visuals and it's like, yeah, the games look good. But it's a setting and style that doesn't do it for me. It's not a statement on their quality.
The ship building was fun. The outpost building required too much "exploring"
Bro the game gets good 25 hours and 32 seconds into the game bro cmon bro
you actually put dark soul 2 gameplay LMAO
I think that's intentional, to prove a point that he didn't medieval fantasy
@poleve5409, so he showed another game by the same dev? 😂
Bruh that's obviously a joke
You don't like medieval? HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
The first thing I noticed when launching the game is that the mouse had some kind of forced weird acceleration that could not be disabled in the options.
At that single moment I knew this game wasn't worth it.
Its a bug, there is a simple work around on the internet just google it.
I cant lie. I saw the 30 fps on console and unistalled the game
@@cucumber9910 You expected a modern-day game to run on anything other than 30 FPS on a console? LOL
@@xx_amongus_xx6987 yeah there are ganes releasing looking like roblox running at 20 fps on a 4090 .like bruh
@@cucumber9910the game is uncapped and does go above 30 fps lol. I wish we could just force games to run at 1080p on console. It would fix frame issues easily. I'm waiting for a GOTY edition before I buy it on PC anyways. But I have gamepass so I'll play it now on Xbox before mods really even take off
The dust is settling from the dumpster fire that recently launched and all the paid shills are no where to be seen, they took their money and are now onto some other game. What we are now seeing is more and more people finally telling the truth , and backed with a lot of evidence, that starfield is a disaster and a failure for gaming
Gotta love the best people say of it is "it's not as buggy as other Bethesda games." Something that's an expectation of other studios is now the chief selling point for Starfield.
Baldur's Gate 3 is so unbelievably boring.
I can't thank you enough for this honest review from a gamer like myself that wants immersive fun gameplay and heart pounding combat, everything you disliked i agreed with and those issues would have left me swearing into the air and freaking out my cats. You have saved me £45, i never pay full price for games and even at that price I'd be spitting fur balls.
I watched the whole video and really enjoyed how well you covered everything and explained in full why it irritated you so and i kept saying to myself yep i also dislike that. You have gained a new follower and again thank you 👍
I agree on all points. I’m pretty sure my enjoyment of Bethesda titles now is due to the mental damage the assorted series have caused over the decades. I’m as dumbfounded as you as to how or why I can extract a thimble full of seratonin outta this thing, but here we are.
This was the exact same reaction I had with Fallout 4, bethesda never again since then.