Who Should Be Boxings P4P #1?
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- After Naoya Inoue's fight with Luis Nery it has started back up the debate of who deserves the number one spot out of Naoya Inoue and Terrence Crawford. We look over what and how a p4p list is made and look over the facts so you can decide.
Inoue has to be number 1 p4p at this point. Bud fights once every 500 years and Inoue fights multiple times a year, has a KO rate of 100 PERCENT in the last 4 YEARS, against other champions, and is becoming undisputed champion in multiple weight classes.
Inoue is simply in a less contested and important division where there's less incentive to not constantly fight in order for bigger payday. As well as people ducking Crawford
And crawford no longer undisputed by ducking Ennis while inoue defend his undisputed once
@@kagnetix6674 “Less important division”
Which one? He’s become champion in and competed in so many at this point?
@@kagnetix6674”ducking Crawford” lol he ducking boots wym
@@kagnetix6674I'd argue that 147 hasn't been a great division for a while
Inoue has been #1 since December 26th, 2023.
No he beat a nobody in December bud dominated Spence
Absolutely 💯
how can he b #1 when he got dropped like a ragdoll on his last fight 💀💀
@@A1ex2807being dropped just diminishes all your accomplishments huh? Y’all boxing fans are weird
@@A1ex2807Ali got dropped, Mike Tyson got dropped, tank and terence got dropped floyd got dropped Duran got dropped roy jone got dropped, most of the great got dropped 😂
Buds last fight was Spence. Inoue has 3 KOs since then. Naoya Inoue P4P #1
He has 2. Not 3. Don't go around pushing biased narratives.
@@budstopseasyroadspencethey may have just not realised. Inoue only beat Fulton 4 days prior. Chill, your name implies bias, and that's fine but the comment is still more or less accurate
@@liambradley6718
"Since then" means since Bud fought, so no, that's incorrect. His fight came before. Therefore it's 2. And my name was made over a year before the fight took place, so I corrected predicted exactly what took place. I know boxing.
@@budstopseasyroadspence they might not have realised buds fight came after as I've already stated. No need to tske everything to seriously.
@@budstopseasyroadspence who is bud who he beat? He beat person who already knockout by car. The man whose face is cracked already. Let him fight some legit fighter.
Shouldn't even be a question. Inoue without of doubt is the p4p #1. Crawford or canelo #2
All Inoue has done is catch up to Crawford's accomplishments and his in the ring perfirmances haven't been as strong. Crawford is #1 until proven otherwise.
@@J-HueHow? How is Inoue “Catching up”? He has more everything. More belts, divisions, champs beaten, title defenses, title wins. And not as strong?? Hes dominated everyone. A flash knockdown doesnt change the fact that Inoue dominated Nery. And since then nobody has come close
Also gotta consider how Inoue keeps knocking out opponents at weight classes where KOs aren’t that common. People really overlook his unearthly power that was much more apparent at 115 / 118. Inoue vs. Omar Narvaez was crazy
I think that’s mostly because the lower weight classes are starved for punchers. There are a few, but they’re the exception, not the norm.
@@vm141789 I agree with you, which is exactly my point. Naoya Inoue’s power is so exceptional, he deserves to be recognized that way
Also gotta consider that crawford does that too, and he does it to bigger guys
@@dawitsellassie5942 you’re missing my point. Crawford fights at weight classes where KOs are common.
@@dawitsellassie5942 Difference being Crawford is the bigger guy knocking out smaller guys.
Inoue #1 for sure he consistently dominates world champion opponents and is incredibly active
Inoue has to be number 1 he's more active fights the best competition in all his weight class
Well, he's not. Crawford is #1 on every PFP ranking, rightfully so.
@@budstopseasyroadspence explain? Or is this just bias?
@@budstopseasyroadspence explain? Or is this just bias?
@@Pu88998
Explain what? Bud is ranked #1 on every PFP list, as he should be.
@@budstopseasyroadspence yes. That’s exactly what I’m asking you to do. Your just saying that with nothing to show. I’m guessing your gonna day it’s because “bud has fought better contenders”
Inoue hands-down. He's an entertainer, brings out his best, each kill is so good to watch. Infact I kept replaying his matches - versatility, boxing IQ, showmanship, KOs rate, different stances, styles, humility, etc. there are so many watchable moments.
He's God's gift to boxing fans. And a generational talent.
Inoue just DESTROYED a former two division champion in Nery. INOUE IS THE BEST BOXER ON THE PLANET.
The more risks and challenges they face, the more they assert themselves.
Inoue is currently #1
Inoue... Bud too inactive to have that recognition. Let's be honest, most American boxing analyst are biased and arrogant towards foreign fighters to admit the truth
I’m American and I agree
Clearly not since Inoue has fought absolutely nobody his whole career yet ESPN had him as high as #2, so that argument won't work either.
@@budstopseasyroadspence ahhhhhhh so you don’t understand what the term p4p means.
@@Pu88998
And apparently neither do you lol
@@budstopseasyroadspence so explain then? Can’t just make a claim without backing it up.🤷🏽♂️
Naoya hands down is p4p legitimately Crawford fights like the Olympics once every four years while naoya fights every three months and knocks every opponents out now tell me whose number one p4p
Like the olympics 😂🤣
Inoue (27-0)
Opponents win/loss records (692-76)
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Tank (29-0)
Opponents win/loss records (489-135)
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Bud (40-0)
Opponents win/loss records (689-227)
Tank should not be in the conversation yet. Usyk and Canelo are the only ones who deserve a mention right now
really shows inoue's level. insane
@@adamrogerson7280 Canelo is the P4P number one.
It is amazing how you can be the guy in divisions with mostly no names. And the majority of them can barely crack an egg😂😂😂 go shawty go!!! Analytics... SMH Terrence Crawford is the P4P 👑 King.
tank isnt even top 5 p4p4 lmao. hes barley top 10
Inoue
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
@@Devin_Haney Meh, crawford isn't p4p #1, usky is
the higher the weights, the better the competition
since usyk is in the heavyweight division, he's p4p #1
crawford only foughts bums cuz he's in the lower weight classes
@@Devin_Haney what you're saying is so true though, it's almost like crawford is just fighting in local tournaments
crawford needs to move up to heavyweight if he wants that p4p title
How can this comment get a lot of likes?
@@yves_vincent7 I didn’t even notice it had that many likes
Inoue for me
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
I been watching Bud since Ricky Burns fight, BUD is him. But Inoue is #1 He just keeps fighting and fighting. If crawford fought 3x a year he could be back at #1.
We gotta give inoue the benefit because of his activity and recency. The time of today is what we used to rank p4p guys. It’s why you don’t have Ali, hagler or any other top legend in these rankings. We have to base p4p off recency. Fair to say that the last 2 years of someone’s career. It’s why we don’t have canelo as first because if we allowed that then pacquiao would’ve been the p4p king until he retired. So inoue shud be the king of the p4p. In the last 2 years inoue beat donaire, butler, Fulton, tapales and now Nery. That’s 5 champions in a row and 1 HoF. In the last 2 years Crawford has fought avanesyan and Errol Spence. The Spence win is great but if we break down Spence’s career. How likely is it that he retires as a HoF legend. Granted Spence was in the p4p top 5 but what has Spence accomplished in those last 2 years before he fought Crawford. Spence beat ugas and was almost KO in that fight and Spence was coming off a car crash and then a couple surgeries by the time he met Crawford. Inoue deserves it
Yeah people forget that Donair came in with consecutive KO wins before and after his first fight with Inoue and looked really good.
It was only after second fight with Inoue that he went down hill but version of Donair that Inoue fought some how turned back the clock
Inoue. PFP the best.
Inoue is most definetly #1 now. There's no other high p4p fighter fighting 3 times a year
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
@@Devin_Haney bro, why the hell u copy pasting stuff?
u want me to copy paste usyk p4p all over the comment section too?
It's hard to argue for Crawford as the best welterweight of the past decade.
You can confidently say Inoue is the best bantamweight of the modern era of boxing.
Bantamweight where competition goes to die.
@@malcolmcouturier6993 It's hard to market 122 lb Japanese dudes to the west. Just cuz we aren't paying attention doesn't mean these dudes aren't fucking killers.
@@malcolmcouturier6993 it is a very competitive weight class. So are most of light categories in boxing
@@TheChattounet just not true. You cant compare beating Spence to beating Fulton. The only legitimate case in favor of Inoue is that hes more active.
It's hard to argue? Are you that dumb?
INOUE #1 PFP
World title fights 22-0, 20KO, KO-AVG90%,
More Active, More Exiting, More good looking, More humble, Faster, Smarter,
but never cry "I am FOTY, I am PFP No.1" on SNS.
Immediately after a fight, Inoue always says "Thank you" to his opponent using a microphone.
“More good looking” 🤨🫵🏻🏳️🌈
Gotta be Inoue
Gotta be cap
@@Devin_Haney devin runney would say this lmao
Inoue’s finishes are more dominant and brutal. Probably as of today the most exciting fighter to watch. Also the more active champ of the 2- inoue obvious pick for #1.
Naoya got my vote,, only because he doesn’t need approval from westerners.. he just is.
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
@@Devin_Haney Very convenient that you don't understand statistics or logic too well. If you remove obesity from the numbers (for their weight class, obesity is out of consideration) estimates are: Asia is approximately 119, Africa is 123, Europe is 134, Latin America is 128, North America is 146, Oceana is 137.
Now consider that boxers around their weight cut anywhere between 10 and 25 pounds. Who is likely to have better competition based on your logic?
@@Devin_HaneyMan, how can you keep on copy pasting long worthless comments in the same video?
The fact that you are doing such a thing shows that you don't want to admit Inoue or the light weight category. If you do such a thing, there is no need for pound for pound discussion. Just say the heavy weighted champs are the only champs in the world.
Inoue and it's not really a debate. The argument is for second place between Usyk and Crawford.
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
Crawford is #1 and it's not really close. 3/5 PFP rankings agree with that sentiment, and a few hours ago before they changed it, it was 5/5, all 5 had Crawford #1, but 2 rankings foolishly changed it.
@@Devin_Haneyby global u mean USA ?
@@kellohitty69 Why don't we see as many Asian Heavyweight champions as we do in the lower divisions? --> It's the same reason we dont see as many black Strawweight champions as we do in the higher divisions..
The higher / lower divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible / uncommon genes.
The most diverse divisions are the ones in the middle -- just use your common sense -- we see more medium sized people in the world the small or large.
With that being said, Crawford is fighting in the most diverse divisions, with the most competition.
@@Devin_Haney I'm 100% sure u have never complained when African Americans dominated heavyweight boxing, it's also mostly limited to them, but suddenly a small Asian guy is tearing through the lower weight classes and u discover average Bmi. Convenient.
Are u telling me lower classes are not competitive when one of best boxing countries of boxing Mexico has been dominating the lower weight classes for decades.
Crawford has been beating mexicans but the average sized mexican is small. The bigger ones are mostly half white. Tell me how a limited percentage of the mexican population providing even more limited amounts of big sized boxers support your 1000/3 theory.
*Crawford beat limited talents not rare talents.*
Since the lower weight classes nationalities don't have much fluctuations in their size they have the Real 1000 people competing against each others.
Crazy we still gotta ask this a year later when one fighter has fought two more times, getting this second undisputed title too, as well as defending it which the other hasn't ever done. I guess there is nothing Inoue can do for people to convince them he is #1 if they still think he's #2.
Another factor is raw stats. If you go over to compubox, you'll see names in the top 10 of categories that youd expect to be there. You'll see Inoue's name in quite a few categories. Bivol, Loma, Shafkur, names you'd expect. One name that you dont see alot is Crawford's. His name hardly shows up in the top 10 of any category. Now I know stats, like in all sports, dont tell the whole story, but they do tell something.
We must factor in how occupied their divisions are when comparing Inoue to Crawford - because someone getting 1st place in a competition between 3 other people isn't as impressive as someone doing it against 1000.
The average height for men (worldwide) is around 5 '8 and the healthy weight for that height (according to the BMI chart) is 130 - 160.. Therefore these are the most occupied and diverse divisions.
An adult male weighing 105lb - 122lb isn't common (worldwide) - You will NEVER see a South Sudanese male fighting at Strawweight (because they're genetically predisposed to being large) which proves these divisions are limited to ethnic groups with compatible genes (i.e Asians).
With that being said, it's almost like Inoue's competing and winning 1st place in local tournaments (since his division aren't as diverse) while Crawford is doing the same but in global tournaments.
Well if you want to look at like that, most of the world population is in Asia. They are definitely mostly around bantam weight overt there. Your average weight is higher because a large part of the world population is overweight.
@@dekaaizer2550 Bro, I don't get into this whole emotional BS.. I only go where the truth is, let's search up the stats showing the demographic and amount of participants in each division.
IMO the amount of participants will dictate how much praise we should be giving them because someone winning a competition between 3 people isnt as impressive as someone beating 1000 people.
@@Devin_Haney bro u r the 1 capping
crawfor'd division only got 100 ppl, but heavyweight division has 1,000,000 boxers
so usyk is better p4p then crawford
@@Devin_Haney I get your point but I think what others are pointing out is that the your facts lend themselves to why Inoue is the P4P. His average weight class matches that of the entirety of Asia, which makes up more than half of the entire population of the world, whilst Crawford's weight class only accounts for the average weight in Europe and Latin America (not even North America). So the logic and facts still go in favour of Inoue.
Crawford fought twice in 4 years and Americans are crying for Crawford? Crawford is #2. Truth.
They're too bias
Crawford's resume is ass. Inoue has to be no.1. Also there's way too many belts and weight classes.
It’s only hard for biased racists to figure who’s the real p4p
If monster was black he’ll be #1 like 10 years ago
Made about race when it has to do with his weight class and the opponents in those weight classes
@@JCedition1if the opponents were black nobody would question him. The only people that dont have Inoue at 1 are black americans
Inoue for sure !
It made sense to pick Crawford before last weekend, but now, anyone who puts Crawford first has to answer: how many times does Inoue have to win with Crawford not even having a fight scheduled, before you consider him #1? Can Inoue beat Goodman, Akhmadaliev, Casimero with Crawford sitting on his couch, and you'll still have Crawford #1 off of beating Spence's corpse? At some point, activity has to matter.
I think Inoue is P4P #1 right now given activity and for defending his undisputed designation instead of immediately vacating and moving up to another division like most fighters who’ve become undisputed lately.
Crawford has always had the unfortunate boogeyman designation and securing matches has been historically difficult, especially in the recent past where PBC basically owned Welterweight. Crawford has also been known to price himself out of fights. Rightly or wrongly, the man wants to be paid very well for his fights and won’t take less than what he believes he’s worth.
Inoue has the backers, audience, and the belts to get the fights made in Japan with purses befitting him. Crawford being mostly independent now, doesn’t have those guarantees, so his fight schedule is far more sporadic. So, I don’t necessarily count his inactivity against Crawford.
And despite my seeing Inoue at #1, one thing that will always feel like a blemish to me is that Inoue skipped Chocolatito, Estrada, Cuadras, and Rungvisai when they were at their peak and instead went for the much easier route with the World Boxing Super Series at Bantamweight. Crawford took every comer in the three divisions he’s fought at and cleared out two of them despite the politics working against him. Also, three weight Ring Magazine champion is nothing to sneeze at.
@@FM-ox6jr I concede your point with Chocolatito given that he lost on the same card that Inoue fought in in 2017 and did not come back for over a year. But Rungvisai and Cuadras were available straightaway with Rungvisai facing Estrada a few months later.
For whatever it's worth, I think that financially Inoue made the right decision going to Bantamweight and participating in the guaranteed purses that WBSS offered over the smaller paydays against the super-flyweights. I also think that Inoue would have likely beaten Cuadras, Chocolatito, and Estrada with the only real opposition being Rungvisai. At that moment in time Rungvisai was at his most dangerous and Inoue not quite the complete boxer he is today.
It doesn't take anything away from Inoue's accomplishments, but his greatness would be many times multiplied and the question of P4P would not even be a debate if he did take those four on at their prime. That's all I'm saying.
Not really a debate, Inoue is the man rn, crawford and canelo are competing for numer two spot, usyk also is in the talk for number 2 - 3
Inoue is p4p #1 best fighter in the world. There’s a real argument Inoue is more popular in America than Crawford is.
Incorrect. Bud is #1 on every PFP ranking, rightfully so.
@@budstopseasyroadspence incorrect. Many media outlets have Inoue p4p #1. If you’re still skeptical, Mike Tyson has stated multiple times he believes Inoue is the best in the world. Case closed.
@@GokuBoxingTV
Incorrect. The only 5 credible PFP rankings all have Bud #1. Mike Tyson doesn't make PFP rankings lol, that's the worst, but funniest source I've ever heard 😂
@@budstopseasyroadspence lies, most rankings have Inoue at number 1. And sorry but not sorry Mike Tyson’s opinion holds a lot of weight when it comes to boxing. Crawford overrated as fuck, his best win came from a guy who ducked a 42 year old and was in 2 car accidents😂. These are FACTS. When Crawford fought Spence it was the same week last year when Inoue fought Fulton. Inoue has then fought 2 more opponents and looking to fight again at the end of this year. Crawford hasn’t had any fights since Spence and his next scheduled one is in August. One is a real warrior chasing greatness, the other one is a good fighter that likes to dwell on past accomplishments. FOH
@@GokuBoxingTV
Stick to anime, boxing isn't for you. Nothing you said was correct.
Inoue is far more active, and has a better resume. Bud has the better best win.
Inoue man, Bud is not active enough : how can people put such inactive (yet great i dont deny it) fighter, in comparison of such a beast as Inoue who is so thirsty for champions and former champions blood ?
Inoue has an incredible boxing CV featuring a number of former world champions but if Crawford fights and beats Canelo at Super Middleweight Inoue’s p4p title could be under threat
best boxing youtuber no lie, hella underrated
Ikr
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Inoue, the numbers, the KOs, the belts, the activity, he has them all backing him as the current #1.
inoue 🐐
Well naoya has been defending old man bud ain’t done nothing in a year
This should not be even a discussion Inoue is the P4P king
Inoue is pfp king and it’s not for debate, not one boxer right now or even in history achieved what inoue has done in boxing! Two thing against him was he fighting in low div where most of American bias clowns don’t even watch! Second his skin is not black! Those are the two biggest inoue enemy from the haters
Yeah... that's soo obvious
Inoue fight 2 or 3 times a years 4 weight division champion Crawford fight 1 time a year maybe? 3 weight division champion you tell me
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It’s usyk now, undisputed at heavyweight fighting guys 40 pounds heavier than him. Literally none of these guys have achievements that compare
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Thanks mate, appreciate you watching!
I think this is an informative and good mini-documentary.
I enjoy this a lot. I agree with you.
I’d say Crawford, but I would kind of agree about Inoue being #1 after the Nery fight and if crawford wins his next he’s back to spot1 for sure.
Inoue is still relatively young when crawford doesn’t have many more fights in him. So after crawford retires I don’t see anybody taking inoue’s spot until he retires if he keeps winning (the other fighters are too far yet from a p4p n1 resume, tank would need to fight all the top dogs before his retirement, or if fury wins he’s need to clear AJ. Boots won’t ever have a good enough resume until inoue retires and he hasn’t been tested and Teo Devin Ryan all lost their biggest fights so recovering their p4p ranking would take too many huge fights)
Inoue because the way he made the best boxers in 4 weight classes look like nobody. Except the first fight with Donaire, he just toyed with all his opponents. In his last ten fights all his competitors are multiple belts champions and they could not even put up one close fight. All just got slept.
Never heard of Terrance Crawford so that makes Inoue p4p #1
Inoue. He went up weightclasses and knocks out bigger guys that most of them have been champs by themselves. If he was american he would be no1 without any doubt
But my friend, the gap between his weight classes are only a measly 3-4 lbs as opposed to Crawfords being 5-7 lbs..
On the face of it, we think "Ohhh Ahhh" he went up 5 divisions while Crawford only went up 4 -- but the reality is that Crawford went up 19lbs while Inoue only went up 14lbs.
On top of that, his divisions are limited to ethnic groups that are genetically predisposed to be that small (i.e Asians) -- so its like Crawford is winning global tournaments (since his division is the most occupied) while Inoue is winning local ones.
@@Devin_Haney Again, another math issue with you, stop proving stereotypes. Crawford started in lightweight: 135, last fight in 147, went up 12lbs, percentage 8.89%. Inoue started at 108, last fight at 122, went up 14lbs, percentage 12.96. I don't mind the Crawford hype, I have him rated equal to Inoue in PFP, dude take some math class though. You are making half my bloodline look stupid.
@@Devin_Haney🤡
@@innocentram1800 Excuse me?
Crawford went up 4 division - 19lbs
Inoue went up 5 divisions - 14lbs
Your math isnt mathing.
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And plus, those smaller weight classes are limited in the ethnic groups who could participate in them.. due to genetics.. So like I said, how impressive is it really for someone to winning gold medals in local tournaments against 5 people, As opposed to someone winning in global tournaments against 100 people..?
@@Devin_Haney You really are a prime example of dunning kruger effect. Let me break it down so that you may comprehend and learn something.
1. Crawford hasn't fought at 154 yet and started at 135 to last fight at 147, so 12 pounds it is. You can't just plug in numbers that haven't officially happened as no one knows if he would do well in that weight class. What's the point of moving up and losing?
2. Assuming we can predict future and say both fighters do well moving up based on past experience. Terence will then have a difference of 19lbs and a percentage of 13, roughly equivalent to current Inoues of 12.89. But for that to establish, Inoue will move up to 126 in the future, which is an increase of 18lbs and 16.67. Which again is higher in percentage which is what matters.
3. You can't include obesity into either situations as no one in Inoue or Crawford will come anywhere near obesity. If you break break down average weight without obesity rates.
Asia: 119 lbs
Africa: 123 lbs
Europe: 134 lbs
Latin America: 128 lbs
North America: 146 lbs
Oceania: 137 lbs
Now consider, most fighters in their weight class cut 10-20lbs. These numbers state Inoue is likely to have much better competition.
Don't play with numbers if you don't know math, and don't think you have a working brain without learning.
No 1 is Inoue
I appreciate how you give respect to Inoue's levels of oppositions. Many people nowadays just outlandishly claim that Inoue's oppositions are not good besides Donaire. In my mind, you can't just delegitimize a whole division... This is what people are doing to Tyson Fury and Wilder, claiming they are not good because all their oppositions are not good because their oppositions' oppositions are not good. This is just ridiculous.
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Inoue dominated the Bantamweight class, moved up weight, and went straight for the 2 champions knocking them both out. Bro… he just moved up weight and already beat 3/5 of the top fighters in the super bantamweight in his last 3 fights and is gonna fight another top 5 super bantamweight (#4) later this year. He’s gonna knock out Goodman, and then he’s gonna knock out Casimero, Romero, and Akhmadaliev next year, and then he’s moving up weight again in 2026! This man don’t stop! Naoya Inoue is #1 p4p
I would love to see your full pound for pound list!
5 months to become undisputed? automatically #1 pfp
A year and few weeks 2x undisputed. Legendary status.
wait wtf this high quality ass video only has 5.6k views and on a channel
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Total wins and losses of top 3 undefeated opponents:
#Naoya Inoue (27-0) Opponent (692-76)
#Tank (29-0) Opponent (489-135)
#Crawford (40-0) Opponent (689-227)
Inoue deserves the no.1 spot now after his last win but I think if Crawford wins his next fight by winning another belt at Jr Middle (154 pounds), you can argue he deserves the #1 p4p rank based on his accomplishments, skills and longevity in the game.
Inoue tops my list based on activity and recent level of opposition.
Only reason inoue hasn’t been put in number 1 is bc he’s not in a glamor division
Wrong it is because he is not black/American or Mexican bloodline
I don’t think it’s Americans that disagree it’s the African American fans who can’t see anyone being great besides a black fighter
Who cares enjoy them while it lasts but monster is gonna do what monster do.
If Crawford had stayed active this would have been a question. He didn't, he beat Spence and since has done.... a lot of trash talking on social media? He has set up a fight that is about as exciting as watching grass grow but hey it's a fight. Inoue did stay active, won his last fight without much effort, and is planned to have at least 1-2 more fights this year.
One of them is more active, can maybe get another division title, and made boxing popular with a huge international audience. The other.... isn't that active (1--2 fights a year tops), probably won't get another division title, and hasn't really expanded the popularity of boxing at all.
I say it’s 1A and 1B between Inoue and Crawford. But if I had to pick just one, it would be the MONSTER!
Monster is clearly #1 because he is much more active and because he's better.
inoue for sure at the moment. bud is near the end of his career, while inoue is rising.
the name to remember naoya inoue
After Saturday, the answer is Oleksander Usyk.
A lot of these lists were made by people who didn't know who Monster was until last year .
I agreed. Well explained.
They are both exceptional fighters. I am lucky to be able to see them at their peak.
The top three is Easy. Inoyue, Crawford and canelo. Those three you can place at any order and id be fine with it
Inoue since he's defending and active. When both are active it basically gets passed between themselves anyways. Bud has a better chance of standing out since he's got more great opponents near his weight that he could fight.
If Inoue slowly adds weight and moves up again and beats the best there then he clears
There’s definitely a lot of biases.
Canelo has the best resume but doesn’t look invincible while fighting.
Crawford dominates but rules over dry and/or weak divisions.
Inoue stands as the only big fish in a small pond thirsty for big punchers, and his two best opponents actually hurt him.
And Usyk… honestly, never agreed with this guy.
Canelo/Crawford make the most sense in all honesty but mostly crawford. Canelo out of his 3 biggest fights only one 1 of them and which was against GGG and that decision was ultra robbery category. If Inoue can maybe fight a big name in the US or moves up more weight divisions then sure
Usyk?? When he became undisputed the division was really good.
He then beat Joshua in heavy.
Usyk is much much smaller than his opponents.
Usyk and Canelo are true generational fighters
Canelo resume is horrible, he has several losses and draws.
Crawford dominated the golden division, the welterweight division, so please stop.
Inoue is dominating horrible divisions. Not even comparable to Crawford's divisions.
@@budstopseasyroadspence Nice joke. It actually got a chuckle out of me.
As a reality, I will give a credit to Crawford. His frame size is unquestionably bigger and his talent to wield both orthodox and southpaw tactically effective is unique. However, Inoue's latest contribution as a number of fights he has faced off and has shown his performance is better than Crawford.
What doesn't get talked ab enough is that Naoya didn't 'cheat himself' and win a belt at FW.
He really should be FIVE DIVISION WC.
Crawford is # 3 on my list. He fought a blind in one eye/ compromised fighter that was weight drained, and damaged goods after that huge car crash- in Spence.
It should be Inoue. Better resume.
American here 😂 Well said. Inoue has been #1
Bud is currently my favorite boxer for multiple reasons, but Inoue is the P4P #1 right now in the sport. If Inoue goes up again in weight and captures all the belts, he may be in the "all time" discussion.
they should have a p4p tournament to see which of these boxers are really the best p4p
Inoue IS the Goat !!!
I just dont get why you could call yourself #1 if you barely fight..yes, there is no doubt that Bud is arguably the best fighter right now..but averaging 1 fight a year since '20 is just not enough imo
クロフォード最近試合少ないな。かなり慎重になってるのか？年齢的に若くないしパフォーマンスが落ちる前に色んなビッグマッチ組んでほしい。
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Naoya inou p4p 1 because he captures in different weight class.....terrance stuck in one weight clasd
If Usyk becomes undisputed heavyweight he should be no.1 above bud and Inoue. Otherwise they can joint no.1 I don't care
Why do you make the text white on a white background. You can make it black
I kinda feel like Crawford is almost done with his career. Inoue is at the height of his career. I think Inoue is p4p #1 rn I don’t expect Crawford to be in a major fight again tho I may be wrong
Filling a stadium doesn't play into who's the man. Crawford's about that life.
thank u your opinion sir.your right.😅
If Usyk wins the heavyweight undisputed he’ll be my number 1 right now I have to give it to Naoya and I’m American waking up early to watch his fights are always worth it
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I’m happy with a tie. They are both generational greats!
Inoue. Crawford is too inactive to be number 1 p4p