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  • @recordingrevolution
    @recordingrevolution  4 роки тому +2

    The biggest mistake most home studio owners make when mixing: www.recordingrevolution.com/free-guides/

  • @godofrainbows
    @godofrainbows 8 років тому +1

    Whats makes these videos so good is how well spoken this guy is, and the simple but clear presentation. And of course, the free lessons and very useful recording techniques. This is such a great channel.

  • @andreassmidelov
    @andreassmidelov 8 років тому +220

    More videos on this genre of music please! :)

    • @VMinoda
      @VMinoda 8 років тому +11

      +Sarrgas Music yes, I completely agree. we need more of this!

    • @joshuadavison267
      @joshuadavison267 8 років тому +3

      +Sarrgas Music Totally agree

    • @braedenlane
      @braedenlane 8 років тому +1

      +Sarrgas Music I also would love to see some more of this

    • @WilliamTanaka
      @WilliamTanaka 8 років тому +2

      +Sarrgas Music same :)

    • @nrhanna
      @nrhanna 8 років тому

      +Sarrgas Music YESSSSSS

  • @TheRealDavidKim
    @TheRealDavidKim 8 років тому +25

    Dang! Complementary EQ'ing makes those guitars sound heavy and wide. Awesome tip, Graham!

  • @Rossco1382
    @Rossco1382 8 років тому +17

    You should promote the bands that you demo here, or at least leave a link to look into their music.
    Also, the mix sounds fantastic, I'd be interested to see how you mic'd the guitars/drums to get this sound.
    Great content, as always! Looking forward to more.

  • @me128166
    @me128166 7 років тому

    I've tried this so many times and just could never get it right. I figured maybe my logic was wrong but hearing/seeing you do this in this track motivated me to try it again and you've SAVED MY SANITY. All my mix attempts get wrecked in mono, but this technique has saved absolutely everything. This channel is so great.

  • @jayseb
    @jayseb 5 років тому +1

    Insane how proper EQ makes a difference. I'll play with this on my tracks for sure. Cheers and thanks for this great tip!

  • @renimcdonaldhill589
    @renimcdonaldhill589 4 роки тому

    wow the complimentary eq carving trick has made a significant difference in clarity to my mixes, thank you!

  • @GeoffBarone
    @GeoffBarone 6 років тому +2

    This has worked wonders for my guitars. I typically bus all my guitars and mix /ew from there, but it makes sense that L/R should be slightly different. Thanks again Graham!

  • @ThomDumdust
    @ThomDumdust 8 років тому +4

    Thanks for the tip, Graham! I noticed that this can also compliment the drums a little - It seemed to me that when the EQ was active, the muddiness of the guitars that came out gave room for the snare and kick to crack and punch a little bit more, almost as if all the muddy stuff came out of the middle of the spectrum. Anybody else hear that?

  • @MarcosKlatt
    @MarcosKlatt 8 років тому

    Wow... That's such an awesome mix. It sounds amazing! Thanks Graham

  • @michaelmartin2977
    @michaelmartin2977 7 років тому

    Wow, such a simple step has already shown great results in my mixes, that last bit of definition that I was looking for. Thank you for this video. I've been experimenting with this concept in other plug-ins as well. I've gotten some desirable results with a transient designer, toning down the sustain on the left guitar, and turning it up on the right.

  • @kyledean9071
    @kyledean9071 2 роки тому

    Love this channel and the 5 minutes a better mix vids. Thank you so much!

  • @liamblack907
    @liamblack907 6 років тому +2

    This is a really interesting way to mix guitars that I've never considered before. I didn't think I'd find a better method than recording the same track twice for stereo width and hard panning L+R, but this method seems to create more unity as it's the same track duplicated - sounds like one huge guitar tone instead of two player's in unison, great tip!

  • @Jay-ov8oz
    @Jay-ov8oz 5 років тому

    Oh my goodness! It is 2AM and I was about to go to sleep but this video completely saved me without me expecting it to. Thank you so much!

  • @PeteKaltsa
    @PeteKaltsa 8 років тому

    Been waiting for this video for a while. Thanks Graham

  • @gautreaux
    @gautreaux 8 років тому

    Excellent explanation, Graham. Very subtle move, very noticeable impact in the mix. IMHO, one your best vids so far! ;)

  • @Djdavidnyan
    @Djdavidnyan 7 років тому

    I really think you are the best in this job, your videos are so clear! Thank you for the help!

  • @Yanthungbemo
    @Yanthungbemo 5 років тому +11

    Damn. Even without the Eq it sounds wider than what I can get with my tracks

  • @benaaronmusic
    @benaaronmusic 8 років тому +13

    Complementary EQ carving.
    I will remember this and experiment.
    Thanks for the great videos.

  • @Consolous
    @Consolous 8 років тому +1

    I knew you'd use this technique , but I'm glad you keep doing so as it is one of the most important techniques especially for a genre like this that I make.

  • @markcook7335
    @markcook7335 5 років тому

    Thank you Graham! this was a problem area for me I've just tried this in a mix and the difference is amazing .

  • @GuitarLava
    @GuitarLava 7 років тому

    Can't believe how this changed my latest mix! Well done.

  • @ismaelcortesjr9281
    @ismaelcortesjr9281 4 роки тому

    Wow just what I needed for a current project I am working on thank you so much can't wait to try it

  • @NickManuel
    @NickManuel 8 років тому

    This is an awesome concept, I was skeptical until I tried it out but it really makes a difference! Thanks for sharing!

  • @savanaviolenta
    @savanaviolenta 7 років тому

    SSL4000 collection I'm buying it.These plug ins totally breath in life into your mixes lifting them up to the next pro level.

  • @BrandonBurch
    @BrandonBurch 8 років тому +1

    That is so awesome! Thanks for this technique.

  • @angryredplanet2815
    @angryredplanet2815 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing. That is an interesting concept that I will try on a current project.

  • @TheMrdumbass
    @TheMrdumbass 8 років тому +1

    I try to keep it in the back my head to give each instrument its place on the Fq spectrum. I always do this with the kick drum and the bass, it never fails to bring out more focus in both instruments and gets the low end clear in the mix. it gets more tricky with the mid focused instruments such as guitars, but when you find the spot on every track were that instrument shines and make sure that it isn t fighting another instrument over that spot! oh man its sounds like butter!

  • @BrendanMacsMusic
    @BrendanMacsMusic 8 років тому +1

    Ive been using Mid Side encoders to get width and depth. Im able to track a single rhythm guitar track, clone it, delay one track by 10ms and use a MS encoder/decoder (Voxengo MSED) to generate a stereo image and then EQ from there. I get some pretty good results from that and sometimes good results to when using the same method (without 10ms delay) for dual tracked guitars.

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 8 років тому

    I feel that the added width on the guitars also helps the huge stereo tom fill stick out less. Great tip!

  • @omgilovedischannel
    @omgilovedischannel 8 років тому

    Fantastic! Thank you so much for this video, it's an awesome thing to do with EQ!

  • @AARONKAYE
    @AARONKAYE 8 років тому +87

    YOU NEED TO MAKE MORE TUTORIALS FOR THIS MUSIC GENRE!
    Also, how did you get the drums to poke thru such dense guitars?

    • @0tto777
      @0tto777 8 років тому +13

      +GODSON Official Music Loads of treble! They sound awful solo'd but that's not what's important. Parallel compression and overboard high end make drums in a dense mix. I think this is too much and the snare and toms have too much high end. IMO the level of them should be boosted and the treble cut but that is just that… My opinion.

    • @AARONKAYE
      @AARONKAYE 8 років тому +2

      Otto Mercer
      i typically agree. i have very sensitive hearing and any excessive treble hurts my ears. but i understand that for what people expect certain genres to sound like (Rock), i have to get used to these mixing techniques... perhaps Graham might show us something we both didn't know.

    • @skeletonrowdie1768
      @skeletonrowdie1768 7 років тому +6

      Late comment, but an external side chain of snare to a compressor the guitars and kick to bass makes the drums poke through very easily without needing a lot of volume

  • @KrisGorski
    @KrisGorski 8 років тому +1

    Really good Tip. This plus using different guitars and amps is really useful. I also record two amps at once with two mics each which kind of goes the same way - using the mics and amps and guitars as an EQ. Again. great TIP for all the Guitar freaks :-). I would suggest the guitarists think of that when working the tracks.

  • @viktorjohansson4424
    @viktorjohansson4424 8 років тому

    My mixes need this for sure. Thanks Graham!

  • @mariosantiagogobbi901
    @mariosantiagogobbi901 4 роки тому +1

    Excelente! Muy buen tip que aplique a varios de nuestros temas y quedaron excelentes. Lo unico que tuve q hacer es varirs las frecuencias editadas ya que depende del tipo de guitarra, pastillas, efectos, etc... Pero el concepto de Complementary EQ carvin es increible. Felicitaciones!!

  • @lound3050
    @lound3050 8 років тому

    Nice! Yeah I've been doing this and it's awesome. Also, when I double a guitar part, I like to change things up with the amp and/or mic placement. It also helps to get width.

  • @jeremytodd77
    @jeremytodd77 8 років тому +4

    Hey Graham, who is the band you are mixing in this? I want to check them out. Great, great, GREAT tutorial that will be very helpful in my own music. Thanks man!

  • @TheEpistemicOne
    @TheEpistemicOne 8 років тому

    Wow, noticeable difference in the width. Great share Graham! Will use this strategy for sure.

  • @JamieClark
    @JamieClark 8 років тому +2

    This technique will change my life. Thank you.

  • @MegaTyler6
    @MegaTyler6 8 років тому

    Wow! This really helped my mix a lot! Really impressed, thank you!

  • @albertclary3353
    @albertclary3353 7 років тому

    Never even thought about doing something like this. I always boost/cut similar frequencies. I will try this on my next mix. Thanks!

  • @SergioFilho
    @SergioFilho 5 років тому +1

    What about the two guitars are recorded with differente amps, or mics, or even pickups, is this trick still worth?

  • @iRodAux
    @iRodAux 8 років тому

    +1 for more heavy rock tutorials. great stuff brother!

  • @RodneyWallaceDynamoC
    @RodneyWallaceDynamoC 7 років тому

    Great tutorial, surreal difference indeed. Thanks for sharing!

  • @montanahomefinder
    @montanahomefinder 8 років тому

    Love these ideas. Thanks for sharing.

  • @AmagrasMUSIC
    @AmagrasMUSIC 8 років тому +1

    What was that glitch in the lead guitar?

  • @ebbulk
    @ebbulk 8 років тому

    What would you do when you had 2 guitars on the left and 2 guitars on the right?
    I've had some doubled rythm guitar parts in a band with 2 guitarists.

  • @CarcPazu
    @CarcPazu 8 років тому

    I do EQ carvings like that for the guitars and also do complementary EQs for the kick and bass. On what I'm working on now, I duplicated the left and right guitars, set a pair of left and right hard panned with a strong high pass filter and and a I've set a pair of left and right panned at 50% with a very strong low pass filter. I'm trying to keep the low portion of the guitar in the center. That cleared up my mix a lot. I could probably do something similar using a mid-side EQ but I haven't tried it yet. Graham, it's cool that you're starting to dabble in heavier music.

  • @MattG123
    @MattG123 4 роки тому

    That video was truly awesome

  • @usetheroute93
    @usetheroute93 8 років тому

    Love it Graham!

  • @AndiPicker
    @AndiPicker 8 років тому

    Nice vid of a nice technique. Funny thing, I played this fullscreen and the mixer columns are the exact right width to create a "Magic Eye" effect, turning the whole mixer into a very clever 3D effect if you stare through it. Brilliant!

  • @rt-uh6mt
    @rt-uh6mt 6 років тому

    Nice tip about complimentary EQ plus I just recently got that SSL plugin from Waves and after watching this video it only now dawned on me how that type of EQ works, pick the frequency, adjust the width of the band and then cut or boost. LOL a lot less intimidating now that I get it. Thanks

  • @ZacharyDial
    @ZacharyDial 8 років тому +2

    I'll definitely be trying this on my next mix. I also agree with a lot of these comments. I'd love more tips and tricks for this genre, or even heavier. I would love for you to explain how to get the mixing done by Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Meshuggah, Polyphia, Vitalism, etc. because you're always giving excellent advice and making mixing so much easier for me, even though I'm writing music that's nothing like the music you usually use as examples haha. :P I can't really find a source for Metal mixing that is as good as you, so if I could get some more ideas on how to beef up/clarify/widen/thicken up my mixes, I'd be soooo happy.

    • @bjoernkmusic
      @bjoernkmusic 8 років тому +1

      +Zachary Dial Take a look at the Systematic Production Mixing Guide by Ermin Hamidovic. It really helped me a lot. I'm still struggling with guitars (mainly because my source tones are shit), but that one really took me to the next level. He's the guy who does mastering for Periphery btw.

  • @lucaskamal8094
    @lucaskamal8094 6 років тому

    I'm using a focusrite scarlett 6i6 as my interface and I'm playing my guitars through that, but they don't sound nearly as good as the ones on this track even before the EQ. Any suggestions?

  • @dimakushnir7506
    @dimakushnir7506 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Graham, do you have the complete mix of this song that we can listen to??

  • @TheResonating
    @TheResonating 8 років тому

    question RR community, I know most of you do mainly studio stuff, but for live stuff does anyone know any mics under or equivalent to $500 that are better than the sm57 for miking guitar cabinets? I just took my amp off the stage to reduce stage volume, but it just doesn't sound the same. Or should I use a different type of mic? Thanks

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE 8 років тому

    Is it me of at 11:04 does the ryth guitar drop out when eq added? You hear the grind of the bass guitar overpowering it.

  • @MarcosKlatt
    @MarcosKlatt 8 років тому

    Graham, would you please show us what kind of "tricks" you used with the bass and the drum kick? Because the Low end sounds really great

  • @Ivan_Zhukau
    @Ivan_Zhukau 7 років тому +8

    Man, that's a cool tutorial and I've just subscribed. For the god's sake give us the link for the song It is f*n' awesome

  • @ognevsky
    @ognevsky 8 років тому

    Wow, great technique! Thanks for sharing this!

  • @critical-thought
    @critical-thought 8 років тому

    That is impressive. I wonder if a single track would get the same effect by carving eq differently on L & R channels. Got some experiments to go try ...
    Thanks for sharing this!

  • @gutpileman
    @gutpileman 8 років тому

    this will help me out a lot. I record a lot of heavy dist guitars thanks. I was just mixing this song for Dueling Mixes and i thought the same thing about the guitars. They were muddy and on top of eachother

  • @ramencurry6672
    @ramencurry6672 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video

  • @mastrofstrings
    @mastrofstrings 8 років тому

    I already do this for all my guitars... between left and right guitars, and also between 2 different guitar parts. But i still learned that from you graham!! You already made a video about this tip hahaha, but its still cool to see it in this context.

  • @jasondavis839
    @jasondavis839 5 років тому

    Great video! I've always tried to get that cohesive guitar sound, but it just gets muddy and oversaturated.
    I'm going to try this with some of my tracks and see if it makes a difference

  • @wynstokstudio
    @wynstokstudio 8 років тому

    Yes, this is what I do aswell. I can also add a little something. Low and high pass filter settings. eg Left Guitar 450hz and Right Guitar say 500hz. Great video!

  • @sabor33
    @sabor33 7 років тому

    Great idea.i have a question on this though. How do we decide which freq we apply all this?

  • @ChrisGill
    @ChrisGill 8 років тому +5

    What song is this?!?! I NEED it!

  • @marcpoulin2808
    @marcpoulin2808 8 років тому

    Great tips here! Would really love to hear this song in full. I know a bunch of people have been asking who the artist is or what the song title is. Thanks!

  • @thenewstatemedia4693
    @thenewstatemedia4693 5 років тому

    How would you fix up, kinda woofy (wobbly, ie not tight) guitars, mate?

  • @thenewstatemedia4693
    @thenewstatemedia4693 5 років тому

    Thanks Graham. On point tips as usual.

  • @flamindigo
    @flamindigo 3 роки тому

    Very precise - very good.

  • @MrGuitarist9891
    @MrGuitarist9891 8 років тому

    Were the two guitars recorded with the same guitar - amp? A lot of time one records the same part with 2 different guitars or going through different amps for a same effect? If one is given the tracks when both left and right channels were recorded with the same sound this is definitely a great trick. Thanks for all your videos - very informative and straight to the point.

  • @brianpatrick6102
    @brianpatrick6102 8 років тому

    The first thing I thought of (with more extreme Eq settings) was using this technique for arrangement purposes. Cool stuff.

  • @GoldenProductions2019
    @GoldenProductions2019 3 роки тому

    Great video graham keep up the great work EQ carving is one of the best things you can do on guitars it really helps I also did a video on it on my channel to I would love to calab with you graham at some point please let me know

  • @__Leon__
    @__Leon__ 8 років тому

    Dude you're amazing your vis help me so much!

  • @Interconexion01
    @Interconexion01 8 років тому

    i just tried it yesterday and i didn´t get quite the desired effect... in fact both tracks justs cancelled each other, i recorded them in mono by the way...
    i´ve got a few questions... i´m currently double tracking my guitar tracks (also in mono in wav format at 32 bit in 44.1)... then y just duplicate them and route them to 4 different group channels (L/R Mid and L/R side) next with the voxengo MSED plugin (a really cool one truly) i muted in one group the mid and in the other the side... then i insert in each group instances of CLA 76... and in the Mid L/R groups i will use as much of -3 dB. of gain reduction... on the sides groups just about -1 dB. and try to match the overall volume of the groups with and without the the insert fx... and to my ears they just sound more fat... not clearer but with more body , for clearness i use an EQ (an intelligent volume fader indeed XD)... now i don´t know if this is a correct mixing procedure or not... but for me it worked... (since waves doesn´t integrate MS capabilities into their older plugins)... in fact i apply these to almost everything ... parallel compresion, delay... you name it... so my quiestions are: is this right?... is there another way to produce this?... i mean the M/S manipulation on a track?... i work in cubase 5 by the way... thanks in advance lml...lml...

  • @DustInTheWindAZ
    @DustInTheWindAZ 5 років тому +1

    Over 30 years ago, I had a gig live-mixing my brother-in-laws band hard-rock band. One weekend, one of the two guitarists couldn't make it. So to try to compensate, we used 2 Hi-Watt cabinets, one placed on either side of the stage, and mic'ed both of them (I guess I could have used 2 mics on a single cabinet). I then EQ'ed the two sides differently to try to make it sound more like 2 guitars. When a lead was played that ping-ponged between the two "guitars", I traded channels to make them sound different. It was somewhat successful, but if I had had more experience and advance notice, I might have put different effects (flange, delay, reverb, etc) on one or both of the two channels. Come to think of it, he may have amped each cabinet separately, too, for different sounds from each side. At that time, I'd never heard of "doubling" a single guitar, so it was all "innovative".

    • @artisteo
      @artisteo 4 роки тому

      For my one man band set up I run a guitar through two fender devils amps and use a delay pedal to get stereo separation. It works depending on the song.

  • @10wavesofyou77
    @10wavesofyou77 7 років тому

    interesting trick, subtle but defenetly good to add some clarity and width. To add more separation using the same track feeding left and right channel I would have used also the Haas trick delaying one of the two tracks by 10-35 ms.

  • @RaepaMusic
    @RaepaMusic 4 роки тому

    Another tip woud be to pan the guitars to L and R equally on Chorus of tge song and bring it back to Center once it gets back to the Verse.
    This is to have some dynamics in the song using Panning/LCR

  • @romaciojunior
    @romaciojunior 8 років тому +12

    please more tips with rock and metal mixing.
    ive been learning how to record and mix with your videos because my band dont have money to pay somebody to do this.
    se want to launch our début álbum at first trimester of 2016.
    cheers from brazil.

    • @abdallahaddad620
      @abdallahaddad620 5 років тому

      romaciojunior Fala irmão. Lendo seu comentário aqui. Como anda a banda?

  • @nath_media
    @nath_media 8 років тому

    Hey Graham! I clearly hear the difference when you play the guitars only. In the mix I find it difficult to hear, mainly because the perceived mixture of heavy bass and guitar differ depending on the chords played. You toggle the EQ inbetween two higher and two lower chords. Maybe with that style of music you could repeat just one chord and then toggle. I think it would be a more direct comparison. Does this make sense? I am very new to mixing.

  • @BoilingJD
    @BoilingJD 8 років тому

    Can I ask, how high is the high pass on the bass guitar ? The kick is very powerful and low, but the bass doesn't seem to suffer from that at all...

  • @konnenheavymetal3524
    @konnenheavymetal3524 5 років тому

    really nice lesson, great effect. thanks

  • @jimmyjamesguitarshack3343
    @jimmyjamesguitarshack3343 7 років тому

    A SSL version of the Pultec trick. Wonder if you used the SSL on 1 track left and right. Then do the Pultec trick on the other 2 tricks. But I still think the guitars sound to much the same. Is this a SM57?

  • @ValKitsakis
    @ValKitsakis 7 років тому

    Great tip, man! Thank you!

  • @THUNDERWORX
    @THUNDERWORX 6 років тому

    I love the difference the channel strips make. My first thought would have been to add more reverb to the guitars.

  • @jwolfstudios9438
    @jwolfstudios9438 8 років тому

    The guitars are not super distorted. Is that because that is what the band wanted, or does it sound better in a mix? I have a mesa amp and I love the distortion but when recorded it sounds muddy.

  • @crap641
    @crap641 8 років тому

    You're the man.
    Made all the difference in my mix.

  • @vrijeval3374
    @vrijeval3374 3 роки тому

    Thanks Mate for the Tip. It's wonderfull

  • @davidpicarazzi
    @davidpicarazzi 6 років тому

    What does the "split" button do on the top of the SSL plugin?

  • @Congaboy55
    @Congaboy55 6 років тому

    Excellent process. More videos on this topic.

  • @LiebsterFeind
    @LiebsterFeind 7 років тому

    Great technique. Was the video text overlay square supposed to say "Eq Out" in various places, instead of "Eq In" two times in a row? If so, you might want to add a UA-cam note bubble to fix that. If I'm wrong then just forget this comment of course.

  • @andy_182
    @andy_182 2 роки тому

    Do you put the SSLChannel before or after the Amp Sim / Amp?

  • @jaktheknife
    @jaktheknife 8 років тому

    Excellent, again thank you.

  • @DragonFlopp
    @DragonFlopp 6 років тому

    I know this video is a bit older, but I'd like to see some more videos centered around mixing music in this style.

  • @michaelreaper666
    @michaelreaper666 8 років тому

    Cool vid Graham ..yes there is a big difference I noticed more on the right side ...Thanks ive bin watching your vids a long time but could not comment after Google took over ..ive learned a lot from your vids ..many thanks ..Mike :)

  • @eddysel10
    @eddysel10 2 роки тому

    I would like to see the mix tutorial for this song. It sounds amazing! This is how I would like my recording to sound!

  • @rykerblade_snb
    @rykerblade_snb 8 років тому

    First of all I just want to know, what song is this because I really want to listen to it. Second I just want to say I'm really happy because I'm working on my second mix and master ever and I'm really happy that its wide, loud, but still really dynamic. The levels bounce so nicely without clipping or brick walling anywhere, and a lot of that is from taking Graham's advice