It's interesting to look at this video, or other pros, and see how much of their APM is just redundant button presses or clicks. At least half thier APM does nothing effective.
Yeah, honestly I really can't watch a lot of them because they just go around flipping their camera around and clicking wildly for no good reason at all. Like, you don't need to set the damn rally point ten times, just click once. So annoying...
I saw an interview with him. He said that he used to have a weak computer and the game was laggy, so he couldn’t click much. He was used to clicking a little and when he got a better computer, he did not relearn
I remember just he explained his love for the early game cheese and rejection of the big army late game with the weak laptop he started playing on. In fact the first Geni games i've seen were the cannon rushes against Alex007 I guess.
I think that there is something to be said for this level of game knowledge - he played at a very high level while efficiently using his tools. Its like watching an MTG pro use a really strong 'braindead' aggro deck and knowing the damage breakpoints and when to push damage and when to recoup. He knew exactly how much he could lose in fights and didn't overplay his hand. Great Game.
The dude played like zerg. Expand like crazy, make a lot of zealots and drones. Also the dt just waste so much scans that should go into mules. He has 5 base (with a gold) while uthermal only has 3. He has I think 8 bases by the end of it.
1st game, that reaper escaping twice with the perfect grenade both times. Marc reaper micro is SO GOOD!!! Perfect scout on dark shrine, too. And reaper still alive to rescout later. *chefs kiss*
Marc u need to do a mini series on him. One video replay analysis and a second one with him on voice chat and a third one with real time game play. Edit and one video where u play him with a capped apm
It should automatically strip out pointless hotkey clicks that don't result in an action when it calculates APM. Actually, just remove control group selections and cam location hotkeys from the APM counter and that'll be much more accurate of actual APM.
I used this strategy every TVP in last and this patch. You did a good job. 😮3rd base is late indeed, but I don't think it's a problem. Because your mass widow mine drops take it back. I think the problem is your tanks should never go outside unless you reach 200. Your cyclones, mines and hellions can keep trading with his economy. Always make protoss lose by staving not by defeating him. I am not a pro-gamer, maybe I am wrong. But this strategy is what I do all the time. Hopefully it helps.
heres a video of one of his streams playing ua-cam.com/video/q3Oa-BuOjT4/v-deo.html really fascinating to see this POV on a 6kmmr GM player. im around 4800 with 250apm and to think he just mogs me this hard
@@alfrebi9639 yeah the way he talks is very analytical and head knowledge-oriented. It is insane how slowly he plays. I mean I used to be low masters, and almost all my opponents were way faster than me, and still I was significantly faster than this dude in every matchup.
Harassing the opponent when they are already at highest lvl units seems like a pipe dream strategy. It's hard to stop a juggernaut when you let it pick up momentum without putting an army that counters it.
He's playing a little bit like alphastar did. Which is to say, he's got decent micro and unit control, but really just carries himself on the really solid macro.
Didn't know there's a pro player similar to me clearly better but made it to 5.4k with an avg of 80 apm with protoss I don't play anymore usually just watch you and loko
Propably would be better at multitasking. But most people just spamclick to increase apm, rather than have effective actions. Also he would gain acess to more builds (stalkers, zealots, stargate units)
This is a very educational game. All that protoss needs to do is just sit back and build up collosi. It's up to terran to take all the risk dropping in the blind under observers. It really is not a level playing field. Once they built up their death ball - it takes one tenth of the skill to engage it compared to how much it takes to control it. I've seen protosses on ladder with 70%+ winrate in pvt.
And on the other hand many protosses just get amoved by a terran army because their control wasnt good enough. The terran army is 100% stronger than toss on a amove
100% Effective APM gigachad
This dude is a god-level giga-chad! you knew what he was about to do for like 10 min and he still won!
More like the cyclones lost
He doesn't click often, but when he does 5 collosi come out
It's interesting to look at this video, or other pros, and see how much of their APM is just redundant button presses or clicks. At least half thier APM does nothing effective.
seriously, showtime literally just spams his 1 2 buttons to increase apm without actually doing anything
Yeah, honestly I really can't watch a lot of them because they just go around flipping their camera around and clicking wildly for no good reason at all. Like, you don't need to set the damn rally point ten times, just click once. So annoying...
I saw an interview with him. He said that he used to have a weak computer and the game was laggy, so he couldn’t click much. He was used to clicking a little and when he got a better computer, he did not relearn
I remember just he explained his love for the early game cheese and rejection of the big army late game with the weak laptop he started playing on. In fact the first Geni games i've seen were the cannon rushes against Alex007 I guess.
I think that there is something to be said for this level of game knowledge - he played at a very high level while efficiently using his tools. Its like watching an MTG pro use a really strong 'braindead' aggro deck and knowing the damage breakpoints and when to push damage and when to recoup. He knew exactly how much he could lose in fights and didn't overplay his hand. Great Game.
"I hate that he focussed and stayed calm" I actually lol'd
My mind is totally blown hearing 6.2k mmr @ 80apm. Thats nuts. Looking forward to finishing the vid.
They made Protoss very easy anyone can get Gm with no skill just make cannon battery’s n a move
The dude played like zerg. Expand like crazy, make a lot of zealots and drones. Also the dt just waste so much scans that should go into mules. He has 5 base (with a gold) while uthermal only has 3. He has I think 8 bases by the end of it.
244 workers created and 1K average unspent resources, absolute gigachad
This guy reminds me a lot of my own play style. I never got over 100 APM, I just had to plan and use mostly a move units.
1st game, that reaper escaping twice with the perfect grenade both times. Marc reaper micro is SO GOOD!!! Perfect scout on dark shrine, too. And reaper still alive to rescout later. *chefs kiss*
"I'll do another widow mine drop"
I swear the God they are so addicting you can't resist
That game was awesome. your last armored push was legendary
Bit of a throw but fun game, gg Marc !
So awesome to see you having fun and enjoying the game despite the end. Still an absolute smasher. GGWP!
Every action is calculated.
"I hope he doesn't have his Collossi up here because that would" BZZZOORRRCHHHH "Never mind, need to make another Hellion..."
15:23: Its Mineral Fields cry out for freedom!
Marc u need to do a mini series on him. One video replay analysis and a second one with him on voice chat and a third one with real time game play. Edit and one video where u play him with a capped apm
Well you surrendered the game by not macroing at all. While your opponent sits on ten bases.
Artificially raising your apm by clicking nothing 99% of the time does literally nothing and everyone does it for some strange reason 😅
It should automatically strip out pointless hotkey clicks that don't result in an action when it calculates APM. Actually, just remove control group selections and cam location hotkeys from the APM counter and that'll be much more accurate of actual APM.
It does have that actually as a separate stat (EPM). It doesn't show on the score screen but you can check it in the replay.
@@jrp107 Ah I didn't realize that, thank you!
Приятно видеть Марк что ты публикуешь не только победы но и поражения. Я тоже иногда выкладываю проигранные матчи,если нахожу их интересными)
It feels like I was cheering for genies more as the game progresses 😂
127 is panic mode for him
im a platinum player and my average apm is around 70 hahaha this dude is a legend
I used this strategy every TVP in last and this patch.
You did a good job.
😮3rd base is late indeed, but I don't think it's a problem. Because your mass widow mine drops take it back.
I think the problem is your tanks should never go outside unless you reach 200. Your cyclones, mines and hellions can keep trading with his economy.
Always make protoss lose by staving not by defeating him.
I am not a pro-gamer, maybe I am wrong. But this strategy is what I do all the time. Hopefully it helps.
That is a massiv turtle!
A 6.2k player with 80 apm... I think we all know which race the dude plays.
Terran mech?
@@snowdrop9810 in silver league 100%
heres a video of one of his streams playing
ua-cam.com/video/q3Oa-BuOjT4/v-deo.html
really fascinating to see this POV on a 6kmmr GM player.
im around 4800 with 250apm and to think he just mogs me this hard
@@alfrebi9639 yeah the way he talks is very analytical and head knowledge-oriented. It is insane how slowly he plays. I mean I used to be low masters, and almost all my opponents were way faster than me, and still I was significantly faster than this dude in every matchup.
Mc Jinro also infamous foreigner due to APM ... broad strokes
Slow ist accurate, accurate ist fast.
Ja, we like to say "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast".
Best SC2 content on UA-cam 🕺
Hands down
bro just wanted to play ladder and caught a stray with this title
I’m here just to check how much that APM peaked lmao
This is gonna be good
We need to send this to Harstem for IODIS.
I'm a Terran that averages 90apm in Diamond 1, and I never see someone with lower apm than me, so him being at GM with 80apm!!! Insane
100 effective apm >>> 350 anxious clicking all the time for no reason apm
Harassing the opponent when they are already at highest lvl units seems like a pipe dream strategy. It's hard to stop a juggernaut when you let it pick up momentum without putting an army that counters it.
He wouldn't have lost the probe if he had higher APM
This guy felt like a bot
Legend
He's playing a little bit like alphastar did. Which is to say, he's got decent micro and unit control, but really just carries himself on the really solid macro.
For lowest APM in GM there have been other competitors such as KnowMe ;). OFC Protoss.
I played genius using ghost only it was insane
I expected Goody 😞
I’m a bronse player with about just over 100 apm but I lose a lot of games though, how does he get so much mmr?
If a girl understands what "liberatorable" means, I will pop up the question right there and then!
does this low apm style not limit his build order options?
I mean Uthermal knew all his moves for 10 minutes, so I'd assume yes.
Didn't know there's a pro player similar to me clearly better but made it to 5.4k with an avg of 80 apm with protoss I don't play anymore usually just watch you and loko
He does not waste clicks. Each time you click the same building over and over again it counts it. This guy only clicks what's needed. That's all.
What if he played fast? Would his skill increase? Or is he judt a perfect fit at 80 apm?
Propably would be better at multitasking. But most people just spamclick to increase apm, rather than have effective actions. Also he would gain acess to more builds (stalkers, zealots, stargate units)
Spamming right clicks isn't a competitive tactic. Spamming build orders with NOT ENOUGH MINERALS isn't a competitive tactic.
GG
Why do you stutter attack with Cyclones? Makes absolutely no sense
So he is basically the most click-efficient player ever?
Higher mmr than goody?
Very fun
Genie is my hero
So he is like Daut from aoe2 😅
Let's go!
gg, Genies is good. Elfi low apm GOAT
How.
w vid
Mega ultra super duper cheesetastic cheese cheese! With extra cheese.
Gg
mfs will see this and still complain about terran
MagikarC
This is a very educational game. All that protoss needs to do is just sit back and build up collosi. It's up to terran to take all the risk dropping in the blind under observers. It really is not a level playing field. Once they built up their death ball - it takes one tenth of the skill to engage it compared to how much it takes to control it. I've seen protosses on ladder with 70%+ winrate in pvt.
And on the other hand many protosses just get amoved by a terran army because their control wasnt good enough. The terran army is 100% stronger than toss on a amove
@@snowdrop9810 a less truthful statement has never been uttered.
@@snowdrop9810 @alk672 alright fellas drop the battlenet and sc2 id's lets get to checking the MMR! im guessing youre both 2500
@@snowdrop9810terran is the least a-moveable army, wdym. Doesn't matter about skill. Skills can make a turd feel like a diamond.
Things that aren’t true for $500 please
Wow, your twitch chat is extra idiotic.
"I'll do another widow mine drop"
I swear the God they are so addicting you can't resist