Perfect Power Adder For My CHEAP Civic Type R BUILD
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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And my Saturday is complete.
As is mine🤟🏻
True story!
Super funny! Power stance on the slippery floor
Speed Academy and G&G on Saturdays, happy days.
Pete helping Dave was like my dad helping me on my Prelude. Annoyed to oblivion and just not happy with the choice of car, but still helping.
Hey Speed Academy! A friend of mine has the 9th gen SI with a Kraftwerks charger k24. He had a similar looking hood as this 8th gen and had the taller deck issue. What he did was he got hood spacers at the hinges and trimmed the inner structure where the charger fits. In the end, he had just enough room for the charger while keeping the sweet carbon hood. Not sure if it'll work for the 8th gen but it's worth looking into. As a fellow 8th gen SI owner, I can't wait to see the little Civic respectfully smoke the M3 on track! Good luck with both builds!
This is by far, my favourite build. It’s not a cheap build but it’s still attainable. Great work guys.
Perhaps a “donor” hood with some functional vents is needed? Would be fun to put a small “ram air” scoop on the right side and then a reversed one over the supercharger. 2000s tuning style 😅
I’m a Porsche guy but found the channel a few vids back and I’m rooting for this Honda. It’s looking great and I’m excited to see the supercharger performance.
it makes me so angry that y'all don't have at the very least over 1m subs so many ppl are missing out on one of the best channels on youtube its freaking criminal we all need to do better and share these vids when ever we can!!!
100% agree with this. If you're a car guy and not following Speed Academy you're missing out!
Negative Nancy w/ info:
That Ktuned dipstick is very prone to pushing out of position, it took them three revisions to finally put a retention spring on it. Highly recommend either getting a different brand or getting their v3 dipstick. Converting to a "blow through" style setup, eliminating the maf sensor will net much more power and will not restrict the size of the intake pipe, allowing the rotex to pull in more air, it will need to be tuned which you already are doing but it wont affect driveability. The selection for the lightened flywheel is almost a guarantee to have poor/jumpy throttle characteristics. If you do NOT put on a 3in exhaust you will have basically defeated the purpose of putting on that charger alone. Even N/A the K series heads breathe extremely well, anything smaller than 3in will drastically cut both hp and tq, staying with a 2.5in will not net a useable powerband.
All that said still love the build! Keep at it guys
Can you convert to a blow through with the FlashPro? I would assume that is more of a standalone ECU feature otherwise there would be a ton of people doing it?
And worry not, we aren't that noobish, the exhaust on the car isnt staying.
@@speedacademy Yes! there is an option the fuel section menu to select tune by MAP/Speed density.
Wonderful, I'm sure youll be using vibrant! If budget allows, I'm curious to hear what the exhaust note would be if one of their ultra quiet resonators is placed inline as well.
Lastly, not challenging your knowledge with this but converting from the returnless style fuel system to a return style can lower the injector duty cycle by 5-8%. Keep it simple, keep it fun fellas! Cheers!
@@speedacademy Please get the retention spring for the oil dipstick, I had a k-swapped EK and it would always leak oil through the dipstick. I ended up changing to a black oem type r dipstick and I never leaked oil from there again. The k-tuned dipstick has a poor design and doesn't seal well without the spring.
"anything smaller than 3in will drastically cut both hp and tq," How do 70mm (2.75") exhausts compare to 60mm (2.36"), 2.5"/65mm(2.55") and 3" for NA builds? Nobody ever seems to try 2.75", instead they just seem to compare 2.5" vs all the way up to 3".
[I'm not suggesting it is a good idea for this 400hp motor, but off-the-shelf 70mm exhausts are available for a lot of Honda chassis, so it seems like it could be a convenient option for many people even on NA race car builds. Maybe 70mm already gets most of the benefit that would come from a 3" exhaust on an NA car?]
Not so fun fact: the Subaru STi, FK8 Type R, Evos etc all have 60mm exhausts as stock to make them quiet to comply with strict Japanese noise regulations, even though most European and Korean four cylinder turbo sport compacts like the Elantra N, GTI, Megane RS etc have 65mm exhausts as stock. 😐
(Also availability of aftermarket metric exhaust parts for custom fabrication -- be it 60mm, 65mm, 70mm, 80mm etc -- seems horrendously poor, even though all Japanese and European cars all use metric exhausts as OEM. Finding metric flexi-joints, metric bends, metric cat converters to join into a stock system seems very tricky (although 2-3/8" is very close to 60mm with respect to OEM Honda exhausts). It's a pet peeve of mine when people say a car has a "stock 2.5" exhaust" (i.e., 63.5mm) when it's actually either 60mm or 65mm and they haven't actually measured it... But I digress!)
there have been a very select few that have opted for the 2 3/4 exhaust for a N/A K series and opted to report the results. On a completely stock setup the most difference between that and a full 3in was 12tq and 18hp (at sea level) using a hub dyno. Cost is always the main consideration, either the cost is drastically different between the two sizes or its $50-$100 more for the 3in. If this was a N/A b series it would be a different story
Unfortunately a lot of the 70mm off the shelf units available are measuring the outside diameter of the pipe not the inside, which is generally 2.5in. Some brands do not specify which measurements they are advertising and most people who say they have a 2.5in do fact have an exhaust that has a 2.75in outside diameter, hard to tell. @@TassieLorenzo
Super jealous. I owned an 09 FA5 Si in Taffeta White. I always wanted the Kraftwerks kit but I was a broke 23 year old. This series is like watching my wish list for this car actually coming to fruition. The work you guys do is top notch.
being a broke 24 year old with CARB standards, I live vicariously through this build lol
Weighted sockets are actually magic on those K20/24 crank bolts. BMW has a few that have some insane torque on them too
Shoutout the Torque Test Channel for educating me about those
I think it’s called the Jesus bolt in the BMW M62 haha
Once you cut that clearance hole for the blower, you can probably find or make a small fiberglass hump, similar to an eagle talon, and then paint match it to the body. To the untrained eye, it might look OEM. Alsooo, you could maybe cut a hole above that filter and install a paint matched naca duct. I think the result of those two would look pretty sweet.
Loving the series boys! ❤
Hood bulges are cool! 😊
The Eagle Talon hood hump is the exact thing I thought of when they brought up having to cut the hood. I think it would look cool
@MultiFreeMan1111 hell yeah! Wouldn't be hard to make. You buy a sheet of insulation foam, cut a few squares out, glue them together with contact cement, sand it into the desired shape, wrap it in seran wrap, then they can begin their fiberglass and resin layup. Once it's cured, pop it off the foam mold and trim it up to perfection. He'll I'd even do it for these beauties 😄
MOOOOOoooooooose! 💪💪 Can you guys just space the engine cradle from the body? Then you won't need to cut a hole in the hood. If you decide to cut the hood, try to mold in a power bulge. 💪 With everything else... Cut, extend and weld! 💪
You don't need an aftermarket extension for the oil pump the OEM jdm type r fd2 RRC oil pump has a deeper pickup
Fantastic upgrades and a bonus sighting of the rare Southern Hamilton Moose!
Plus I don’t think Dave’s run that fast since the grand opening of your local Tim Horton’s 😂
I was hoping you guys would go with the Kraftwerks kit instead of a turbo for the Civic and you did! I also have the Kraftwerks kit on my 8th gen and have been been considering doing a K24 bottom end. Glad I watched this series first. I didn't realize it would cause that many fitment issues.
Excited to see how this turns out and keep up the great work.
Do you have belt slip issues?
@@ianfeit8760 I haven't and I've had the kit on the car now for 6ish years. It's a good kit overall.
You know Pete’s oldschool when he almost says Skunkworks instead of Kraftwerks!
Have you guys considered the MercRacing supercharger kits? They utilize the harrop tvs supercharger.
probably couldnt wait a year
Those chargers dont like track use from what we've read, hard to keep them from heatsoaking.
@@samster978 i believe their wait time has drastically been reduced as of late
@@speedacademy being a customer of theirs, i have tracked the car and never ran into heat-soaking issues. With the proper cooling setup, my iats never went crazy. MercRacing does provide air to water and air to air cooling setups.
Not taking away from KW, just speaking from a long term customer/user of using the MercRacing kit for the k series motors.
@@speedacademyHi. Just saw this and need to counter about kits not good for track and heat soak. That is likely old information and old kits. I have also improved our timeline etc for product delivery. We have various customers that track their cars reliably.
Here is a very demanding race type. This customer uses our supercharger kit. Hopefully one day we can be part of one of your builds.
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Regarding the oil pump you could get an RRC oil pump. Works out of the box on the 24 without needing any clearances mod to it. Part number is
15100-RRC-003
Its the standard oil pump that came on the FD2 Type R
That's a good idea! I bet RRC stuff is way more expensive than stuff that came as OE in North America though.
@@TassieLorenzo iirc they were like in the 200usd range. Where as the type s were in the 160ish
Wow nothing beats Honda Boys working on their K series and also some national geographic wild Moose sightings all in one video!!
Speed Academy always giving us the full experience!!!
hey guys.
when your trolley car will not lift as you were installing the engine, its probably the fluid release cable on the handle being pulled just enough to open the valve or something.
i used mine like that and was going nuts over that issue.
engine looks sick BTW
love watching you guys work on 8th gens
PT is not wrong that 8th (and 9th) gens are difficult to work on because of the styling taking precedence over ease of access, but I like that Honda were willing to try something different. (Even if Honda ended up returning to a more conventional rectangular engine bay for 10th and 11th gens.)
I've always loved the FD2 and I'm so glad to see a build on it! Can't wait for more!!
The Rocky running montage was epic lol
I love your guys content so much! Been here since 50k subs! Surprised the channel isnt bigger honestly!
Loving the build! When installing tubes and sticky couplers use some soapy water in a spray bottle! With the sticky clamp use some silicone spray! If youre not using the EVAP you should block it off.
honestly impressed by how much time probably went into the package delivery sequence lol
Just please don’t go on RR tracks. It’s private property and actually quite dangerous. RR police also won’t be very happy if they see you out there.
I've been consuming a lot of civic build UA-cams lately.
Thanks for giving more.
CRV post mount should lower the motor to fit the blower without cutting the hood . Good luck!!
21:00 a wild Moose appears 😁
I have K-tuned CMC & slave in my FG2. The clutch feel is very less compared to the stock. I wish I had gone with the Hybrid racing kit. Their CMC & slave are from older gen Hondas, preserving the feel.
Saturday morning car toons
Love seeing Moose, he's like the Speed Academy celebrity cameo!
Ran that three puck clutch on my evo, was rough around town and hill of San Francisco. Was ok for spirited driving. Liking this build.
I have an 09 fa5 Si. Same setup, k20z3 head with k24a2 short block with a kraftwerks kit. The hood will close with hood spacers. You have to slam it and it will leave a dent. Also you can delete the MAF and run an IAT instead so you can get rid of that ugly intake pipe.
i think for the hood do what the old 90s eclipse used to and just make a hood bump lol better than a hole with the super charger sticking out
would be nice for you guy's to have a mitsubishi eclipse hood like with the boldge in it , to go over the blower without cutting a hole in it !
Absolutely been loving this build series. I love the K20 platform glad you guys showed it some love. Super clean build as well!
Excellent vid, should have gone for the Rotrex 30-94 Shaft drive Supercharger kit. should have solved your clearence issues. got it on my Mugen.
Love this series!
One thing, all that maintenance and didn't fix that very rusty tube under the intake? Not worried about it rusting through and leaking?
Nah, it just adds character
Moose!
Always happy to see the big guy!
We need more Moose!
Another great video gents.... just building no BS no Click Bait junk no just wasting money on super cars and trashing them... love it guys.
The bulky head always prevents one getting into tight spaces lol
might run into hood clearance issue with the blower touching the hood,k24 sits higher than k20 since its a taller block. anyway this car will have tons of low end torque, k24 already making good torque and the blower will bump it up and linear power to top end
they literally said that in the video
Feels nice to be hungover and watch a speed academy vid 🤙🏼
I'd love to hear your take on air-to-air vs air-to-water intercoolers in a future episode. I have this '77 Datsun 620 and I don't really want to ruin the front end with an FMIC to feed the KA-T 😞 - oh! Great episode!!
This build is making me want to keep my fa5 instead of wanting to sell it due to it needing work / me choosing the wrong parts. Very happy to see what comes next! Namely the hardrace mounts!
Moose! Finding myself surprisingly interested in this build guys 🤘
Give it one of those hoods that have the lil hump to cover it
All that k tuned stuff on top of that k series is sooo fire! I remember dreaming of having a k swapped civic now it’s so common and so many things can b done now
Moose sighting!!!
Was just as worried as DP when applying that much torque to the FW, lol
I’m so happy you guys finally got to the 8th gen! I really need the type S pump and that baffled oil pan that’s good info to know, thanks.
Just order the RRC pump from honda. No need for modification.
I'm already hooked on this series, loving the Honda content so much. Will you be doing rigid collars anytime?
I thought they found the car already had them when they dropped the subframe
@@derekfriday7931 o I thought you replace them if you drop subframe
@@derekfriday7931 I guess we'll see LOL
Can't get enough Honda content
I really appreciate this channel Explanations on parts/tools being used, and still entertaining to watch.
New parts is so refreshing to see fitted.
14:37 yes, that white noise in the background is the sound of rain
Curious: when you got the crank seal out, was there much of a ridge worn into the snout of the crankshaft? I find that when seals get old and hard, thats when they start to wear into the metal (over time of course)....
You can make an "egg" in the hood where the rotrex hits instead of cutting it.
Really liking this series. In the next series, it would be great to see if Dave can buy and build a BMW sedan that can beat the E90 on track for less.
What chassis/engine setup would you go with to outpace the E90 M3 on the track?
I’d go with an E46, and would LS swap it.
Really satisfying episode to watch fellas. Keep the jokes coming DP. You guys are killing it; the effort you put in is well and truly appreciated.
Love that build, I have an fd1 so I'm taking notes. Thanks guys
I know Hasport has engine mounts that have different height settings to lower the K24 in the engine bay just for that problem of clearance. You can get the engine to sit much lower than stock. Very nice build guys. I've got a K24z that I'm not sure what I'm going to do with yet.
I had 2 FA5, amazing to see this one back to life again :)
I was just thinking to myself when is the next Speed Academy video coming out?! Prayers answered. Great running 🏃♂️ DP!
Guys need an eclipse style bump in the hood
Dave is my power adder
The pace of this build is very nice! I like the longer builds also, but this one nice!
Can you drop the entire motor at the mounting points? K24 is about 20mm taller-even splitting the difference could help.
first time i notest the ass2000 plate on the wall 😂👍🏻
the only youtube channel I watch where I always drop a like as soon as I open a new video, just because I already know it's always gonna be good
I have a couple of steel bike tire removal tools, work perfectly for removing oil seals.
there is something about a 4 door k20/k24 civic i just love them
the original title "Big power is coming for my cheap type r build" was more amusing, I thought gee what did he do to piss off big power lol
Always fun when Moose is there!
We ran a Kraftworkz SC on our 8th Gen Civic Si and it gave us a world of problems and issues.
Great job civic coming along ! Keep up the great videos
The running scene is gold 😂😂
This whole time I thought speed academy was speed factory lol
Love watching Timon & Pumbaa mod cars
I have been wanting it do this exact same project fd1 with a k24 turbo sick 🤢
Gonna be a fun ride
With the new impacts like the up and coming dewalt dcf961 or even the Milwaukee 2967, weighted sockets are a thing of the past now lol.
now thats an ad worth watching
@speedacademy when you did the fuel pump, did you run a relay and power directly to the battery? I add sirimoto flex fuel kit and did gain much until I ran 12 g through a relay to the battery. I gained 20% lower duty cycle from this. Stock power wire is like 16-18g.
Cant wait for more progress on this. Looks so good.
Stage 1 wouldve held the kraftwerks kit. I had a oem replacement clutch with my kraftwerks making 420whp,
Also theres a RRC FD2 Type R oil pump which has the correct deeper pick up for the oil pan
And a moose sighting?! Great episode
Love the Honda builds! Sure wish they made something like that for the em2 chassis!
I'm willing to bet that running that rain-noise audio through something similar to nvidia broadcast's AI noise removal would probably go a long way to improve that audio. :) Great series, love the affordable builds.
If I don't get Speed Academy and Gears and Gasoline videos on Saturday then it's not really Saturday 😢
I'm sold on the Tom Cruise run
Please do a DSM style asymmetrical hood bulge to accommodate the supercharger
Would subframe spacers help give you clearance between the supercharger and hood?
28:50 Try working on a VG30DETT. Every engine bay is spacious by comparison.
Love kraftwerks, but why the hot air intake.. guess you can do a heat shield or a vent on the hood at the very least.
Lifetime warranty with rigid too.. can’t go wrong assuming it performs like you need!
I’d like to know what city you’re in here in Ontario. I love watching this show and I’m glad that you guys are educating me a lot about cars. Hope to meet you guys and us some advice or help with my car. 🏎🏎
The Flexus!! 👍🏾
More clips of Dave running please. 😂
That cooling blue hose at the back of engine looks fairly restrictive with the kink. Maybe it changes with pressure and fills out but might be worth looking into if it encounters cooling issues.