Note to the director: when the host gestures to something, SHOW IT! I'm so tired of car shows that focus on the bumbling talking head to the exclusion to the subject. Think like an engineer, not a portrait photographer. Isometric views please. Show the geometry of that wacky steering tilt and for Christ's sake, get a camera into those tight spaces while the bobblehead is there to interact with the controls. It's ok to tell the talent to do it again for the camera.
The Hoffman was the worst car Jason has ever driven.who puts neutral between each gear if you can find them.the rear wheel was in the center of the car also
Me being nearly 80 years old I remember when cars were all built super simple ,much like this all cars were easy for regular people to maintain & repair ,I could change a fuel pump on a 350 Chevy motor in 10 minutes and a timing belt on a Chevy Chevette in 15 to 20 minutes using a 5/8 wrench and a 15/16 drill bit to line up the pulley with a hole in the block ,no timing light needed .
Modern cars really aren't made to be easily repaired easily. They cram everything into such a tight space that if you want to change one part you have to remove half the engine. I don't see any need for it to be like that.
You don't use a timing light to change a timing belt. It is used for setting ignition advance / retard. If you fuck the _valvetrain_ _timing_ by not locking the valvetrain in position you're going to have valves dancing on top of your pistons and destroy the engine.
@@Bzorlan Yes. Modern cars are not meant to be maintained. They're meant to be disposable items. Their designed use life is 1,5 years. You're supposed to crush them and get a new one, not change the battery or bulbs.
@@Bzorlanthe Lexus ls400 should get a pass. It’s layer upon layer of electronics and hoses but it’s worth it. Overhead cams make everything more complicated but they’re superior in almost every way
Not a single frame of B-roll of the side or 3/4 view of the car lol, all we get are motion blurred and badly framed glances during the driving portion of the video It sounds like a really cool car! I just wish we got to look at it lmao
I felt insulted when he kept putting it down. What does one expect from a 1920s cycle car. I would love to try it, and open it up in 2nd gear on a back road.
In UK the Bond Minicar was made into the 1960s. The 2 stroke engine (250cc) and gearbox turned as a unit to steer but only one front wheel. Four seats though!
Lol i Live in England , the festival of slowth is amazing Cycle cars bring Fun, people together, grin from ear to ear you get good attention, i Love them and as personal local transport driving around the countryside beats any Tesla. a very nice example you have , a big thumbs up as i watch from my Net Book which i love , and wanted . its small and fits in the Cycle car . and they do exist more than you think . Peace bro .
Here in the UK the 1950s fuel crisis created a demand for cheap, frugal cars like bubble cars and ultimately the mini. The Bond minicar was a 3 wheeler with Villiers motorcycle engine mounted on the front wheel that turned in a similar way to this car. The contrast between the huge flamboyant American cars of the time and our poverty spec ones couldn't be more stark.
Wasn't only the UK ... France, Germany and the rest of Europe had fuel consumption restrictions that made a good number of tiny cars with tiny engines a mandated "people's car," such as the VW Beetle and the Citroen CV, along with the Morris Minor (in England) and the BMW Isetta (Germany). Fuel consumption mandates were in effect, which were in the form of incentives, engines with large capacity displacements were sanctioned with government tariffs (at the time).
In some ways, that car is WAY ahead of its time. Look at the front suspension. It has lower wishbones, and a transverse leaf spring as an upper member. That is pretty much the same as many luxury cars had as front suspension in the '30s and '40s.
One of the oddest vehicles I have seen was an early 1930s British three wheeler van, basically a 500cc twin cylinder motorbike with two wheels at the back powered by a chain, and a metal framed kind of wooden shed on top. You sat astride it and used handlebars to steer inside the cab. Apparently it was an economical design for deliveries and tradesmen to carry their tools and materials about in. The early 3-wheeled Reliants were similar, but by the late 40s they ended up being engineered more like a car or small van, being made until the 90s.
It also meant that it could be driven by a sixteen-year-old with a motorcycle licence, so the company could employ him for less than someone older with a car licence.
Please keep doing these weird vehicles broooooooo! These are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep it up!!!!!! “It’s like being comfortable in a small textile mill.” Lmao
Its about time we bring back the cycle car, could be a way to make a cheap EV commuter, just a no frills, subcompact car that can charge off a standard 110V outlet (or whatever you have in your country) with 100 miles of range, maybe a little less, just enough to get you to work and back and save your dino burner for family vacations.
I've loved cycle cars ever since childhood... There were dozens of brands in the 20s'. I Liked the Dart, though technically not a cycle car, its shipping box was its garage. Then as now, a used good car is better than a new crappy car. (e.g. couple year old Corolla is 10x better than a new "smart" and less expensive)
I'm sure there are more places that have weird cars than Lane, but I guess they don't let people drive 'em. (Did Jason "Cheap Alternative to a Person" Torchinsky even credit the museum?) Between Jason and Aging Wheels, I feel like I've been there, lol...
Probably more you don't have to have any weird linkages to turn both front wheels equally at the same time. I seem to remember another car that had a similar setup, but only had one drive wheel. You backed the car up by turning the assembly 180 degrees so instead of driving forward, you drove backward. Weird indeed...
@@Backroad_Junkie Bond Minicars have one wheel at the front that has a pivoting scooter engine, however you reverse that by starting the engine the other way
The steering front end solves the FWD problem of combining steering and power at the wheels. No CV joints or steering bit to engineer. And to proove its genious Fuller's dymaxion car had the motor that turned with the rear wheel. It worked better in that the engine was above the wheel and an the same vertical axis.
Hey least it will never be like take me to the dealer. I need my brain re programed with 20 laptops and a $5000 bill. Actually now i think about it. The global chip shortages wont affect these cars. They should start production again.
also take into account that harnessing a horse to a cart is much more difficult than operating that car.... sometimes the horse doesnt want to go anywhere.
I love how Jalopnik tries to clown the technology of the past when for the day these were ingenious solutions. The steering motor was a great solution to not having CV joints or U joints.
This car was made to serve WWI disabled veterans, therefore you have duplicate manual and pedal controls. Post WWII there were similar made in Russia - cheap, simple, duplicate controls, single or double seaters.
Cycle Cars do still exist. The Polaris Slingshot is the most common, but there are several others too. They pretty much exist for the same reasons too.
The pivoting steering mechanism also still exists on large construction loaders. It swings the opposite direction from where you’re turning and it does indeed give a sensation of staring to tip over. Takes a while to get used to it.
I miss Jalopnik. Their website went to shit with huge screen blocking active ad popups that reoccur frequently and interfere with reading or seeing anything. I used to visit every day. Now I look maybe every month and they remind me why I don't go there anymore.
Is that centre pivot steering? If so no wonder it has a poor turning circle, any tighter and you would be making friends with the road surface for sure.
This seems like the same idea behind the Aston Martin Cygnet, a little city car for day-to-day use while your real car stays at home. This seems to have been about as successful as the Cygnet too.
What size is the engine? how many cylinders ? you let slip it has two gears but why not tell us about this interesting little car? how many were made and where ? and why does tour camera person not show us much at all bar a beardy bloke in a t shirt ? why did I bother watching this, I guess it was made for 10 year olds.
Check out chevy corvair it's the first turbo air cooled engine ever made !!!! Please where you located? I have a 1965 chevy corvair the war kinda killed off production its the cheap man's corvette 😁
The Boeing YB-17A Flying Fortress used an air-cooled turbocharged Wright R-1820 engine. This was in 1938, over twenty years before the Corvair Spyder. There might have easily been many other, even earlier, air-cooled turbocharged engines, even before 1938, but I haven't taken the time to research it. Those turbochargers were made by General Electric. So, the Spyder didn't have the "first" air-cooled turbocharged engine ever made.
@@KelikakuCoutin based on info I read it was the second turbo ever made first mass produced making it technically the first turbo air cooled CAR say it agian CAR
@@KelikakuCoutin 4 door 110 monza na (naturally aspirated) so not turbo I'm 24 years old 😁 I love boxer engines I see you folks with Subarus and saw this boxer engines and said yes please
The horn was right there! It was staring at us the whole time, and it remained entirely unhonked! Calamity!
Chekhov’s horn?
ohh man!!... I didnt notice that at first, but now it seems like such a missed opportunity!!
Note to the director: when the host gestures to something, SHOW IT! I'm so tired of car shows that focus on the bumbling talking head to the exclusion to the subject. Think like an engineer, not a portrait photographer. Isometric views please. Show the geometry of that wacky steering tilt and for Christ's sake, get a camera into those tight spaces while the bobblehead is there to interact with the controls. It's ok to tell the talent to do it again for the camera.
It all seemed too zoomed in, often out of focus, and barely showing any of the car at all.
"Among the worst I've ever driven" would not be so damning a statement if were it not coming from Jason.
The man who's driven all the worst cars.
My thoughts go to the worst he has driven before this, at the same museum. That microcar from I believe 1949 with the split window aero body.
The Hoffman was the worst car Jason has ever driven.who puts neutral between each gear if you can find them.the rear wheel was in the center of the car also
Me being nearly 80 years old I remember when cars were all built super simple ,much like this all cars were easy for regular people to maintain & repair ,I could change a fuel pump on a 350 Chevy motor in 10 minutes and a timing belt on a Chevy Chevette in 15 to 20 minutes using a 5/8 wrench and a 15/16 drill bit to line up the pulley with a hole in the block ,no timing light needed .
I'm not far behind ya but if you had a model t you would never need to change a water pump 😀
Modern cars really aren't made to be easily repaired easily. They cram everything into such a tight space that if you want to change one part you have to remove half the engine. I don't see any need for it to be like that.
You don't use a timing light to change a timing belt. It is used for setting ignition advance / retard. If you fuck the _valvetrain_ _timing_ by not locking the valvetrain in position you're going to have valves dancing on top of your pistons and destroy the engine.
@@Bzorlan Yes. Modern cars are not meant to be maintained. They're meant to be disposable items. Their designed use life is 1,5 years. You're supposed to crush them and get a new one, not change the battery or bulbs.
@@Bzorlanthe Lexus ls400 should get a pass. It’s layer upon layer of electronics and hoses but it’s worth it. Overhead cams make everything more complicated but they’re superior in almost every way
Not a single frame of B-roll of the side or 3/4 view of the car lol, all we get are motion blurred and badly framed glances during the driving portion of the video
It sounds like a really cool car! I just wish we got to look at it lmao
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS.... Camera work sucks
I felt insulted when he kept putting it down. What does one expect from a 1920s cycle car. I would love to try it, and open it up in 2nd gear on a back road.
"Cheap Alternative To A Person" - that is a derogatory term to use for Jason. Sure, he mightn't be a person, but he's a FANTASTIC gnome.
Jason Drives is back! Yay!
In UK the Bond Minicar was made into the 1960s. The 2 stroke engine (250cc) and gearbox turned as a unit to steer but only one front wheel. Four seats though!
I owned a 47 - 48 Bond Minicar .. LHD , Villiers motor w both electric and manual start .. WHAT A HOOT !
Finally! More of this series please...
Lol i Live in England , the festival of slowth is amazing Cycle cars bring Fun, people together, grin from ear to ear you get good attention, i Love them and as personal local transport driving around the countryside beats any Tesla. a very nice example you have , a big thumbs up as i watch from my Net Book which i love , and wanted . its small and fits in the Cycle car . and they do exist more than you think . Peace bro .
They are not extinct. They have been reincarnated into the likes of the Renault Twizy and Citroen AMI.
Don't forget the Morgan 3-wheeler.
Here in the UK the 1950s fuel crisis created a demand for cheap, frugal cars like bubble cars and ultimately the mini. The Bond minicar was a 3 wheeler with Villiers motorcycle engine mounted on the front wheel that turned in a similar way to this car. The contrast between the huge flamboyant American cars of the time and our poverty spec ones couldn't be more stark.
The Bond Bug ended up in one of the greatest starring roles ever, but: a Robbie Williams film clip - ua-cam.com/video/xcWOviMI6Lk/v-deo.html
Wasn't only the UK ... France, Germany and the rest of Europe had fuel consumption restrictions that made a good number of tiny cars with tiny engines a mandated "people's car," such as the VW Beetle and the Citroen CV, along with the Morris Minor (in England) and the BMW Isetta (Germany). Fuel consumption mandates were in effect, which were in the form of incentives, engines with large capacity displacements were sanctioned with government tariffs (at the time).
In some ways, that car is WAY ahead of its time. Look at the front suspension. It has lower wishbones, and a transverse leaf spring as an upper member. That is pretty much the same as many luxury cars had as front suspension in the '30s and '40s.
I see a loyal patron of his local Omega Mart... Good... very good.
I want one in 2023!! Looks like a real challenge to drive, I LIKE IT!!
More proof that the Austin Allegro is not the worst car ever made
Cyclecars are not classified as automobiles. Judgment on the Allegro stands.
@@CaptHollister There are thousands of proper cars worse than the Allegro. Pretty much anything pre-war is worse.
One of the oddest vehicles I have seen was an early 1930s British three wheeler van, basically a 500cc twin cylinder motorbike with two wheels at the back powered by a chain, and a metal framed kind of wooden shed on top. You sat astride it and used handlebars to steer inside the cab. Apparently it was an economical design for deliveries and tradesmen to carry their tools and materials about in. The early 3-wheeled Reliants were similar, but by the late 40s they ended up being engineered more like a car or small van, being made until the 90s.
It also meant that it could be driven by a sixteen-year-old with a motorcycle licence, so the company could employ him for less than someone older with a car licence.
What a baby! It looked like a blast to drive. I wish I had it!
I love that little horn, classic!!
Please keep doing these weird vehicles broooooooo! These are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep it up!!!!!!
“It’s like being comfortable in a small textile mill.” Lmao
Not sure what planet you're on but cycle car builds are booming.
Dig the reviews of small vehicles. I just bought a electric J2 micro alibabamobile.
Yea! Another Jason Drives. Thank you
Please review more cycle cars!
What? No horn squeaking? 😁 I probably sounds just as hilarious as the rest of the car!
Its about time we bring back the cycle car, could be a way to make a cheap EV commuter, just a no frills, subcompact car that can charge off a standard 110V outlet (or whatever you have in your country) with 100 miles of range, maybe a little less, just enough to get you to work and back and save your dino burner for family vacations.
The Citroën Ami and the Renault Twizy are examples.
Citroen Ami?
I think it was called the C5!
Pretty cool, but I would have liked a little info on the engine. It sounded like a possible two stroke.
@@marknugent2775 Obviously the car.
I've loved cycle cars ever since childhood... There were dozens of brands in the 20s'. I Liked the Dart, though technically not a cycle car, its shipping box was its garage. Then as now, a used good car is better than a new crappy car. (e.g. couple year old Corolla is 10x better than a new "smart" and less expensive)
As a Brit, I would happily have this contraption sat alongside my late-model Citroen 2CV and 1932 Morris Minor two-seater. Utterly bonkers.
That is fantastically weird! I love it.
I'm sure there are more places that have weird cars than Lane, but I guess they don't let people drive 'em. (Did Jason "Cheap Alternative to a Person" Torchinsky even credit the museum?)
Between Jason and Aging Wheels, I feel like I've been there, lol...
Will you get a chance to drive that LARC LX?
Is it possible that reverse is achieved by timing a spark at just the right moment to send the single-cylinder two-stroke spinning backwards ?
I wonder if the weird steering was to avoid some patent?
Probably more you don't have to have any weird linkages to turn both front wheels equally at the same time.
I seem to remember another car that had a similar setup, but only had one drive wheel. You backed the car up by turning the assembly 180 degrees so instead of driving forward, you drove backward.
Weird indeed...
@@Backroad_Junkie Bond Minicars have one wheel at the front that has a pivoting scooter engine, however you reverse that by starting the engine the other way
Simplier suspension, less parts.
Bro that’s a fancy go cart
The steering front end solves the FWD problem of combining steering and power at the wheels. No CV joints or steering bit to engineer. And to proove its genious Fuller's dymaxion car had the motor that turned with the rear wheel. It worked better in that the engine was above the wheel and an the same vertical axis.
My `47/'48 Bond Minicar steered the motor too !
We need a walking tour of your storage facilities, and the amphibious military vehicle !
Nice and interesting car ! Being front drive it was ahead of its time !
Cheap, available, fun- but never should have been made 🤷🏼♂️🤔
Hey least it will never be like take me to the dealer. I need my brain re programed with 20 laptops and a $5000 bill. Actually now i think about it. The global chip shortages wont affect these cars. They should start production again.
This would be very popular today.
I loved my netbook In 2008 lol
So did I.
I just saw the Ape = bee in Italian
...the Ape car is a trike .. looks like fun
In some countries there was a tax advantage for small engined vehicles. This does not show the steering mechanism. Does it have cart-type steering ?
You might consider that the driving experience was a lot better when it was new. While the cosmetics look good, it may not be up to spec mechanically.
also take into account that harnessing a horse to a cart is much more difficult than operating that car.... sometimes the horse doesnt want to go anywhere.
Were those safety goggles prescription?
@4:38 is that Fiat 126p in the background? I've learned how to drive in that thing. I miss it so much... Could you review that in future?
It is very common for these type of videos that too much film-time is of the presenter rather than the car's details.
What's worse, this or the 1951 Hoffman?
Aw yeah he’s baaaack
There are several of these cycle cars at the Carillon Park in Dayton, Ohio, although you can't drive them...
“Drives like it’s got a hinge in the middle….”
(It *DOES* have a hinge in the middle, er, closer to the front…)
I love how Jalopnik tries to clown the technology of the past when for the day these were ingenious solutions. The steering motor was a great solution to not having CV joints or U joints.
See also Bond Minicar... made well into the '50's, maybe even '60's.... single front wheel with engine above... the whole lot turned to steer...
This car was made to serve WWI disabled veterans, therefore you have duplicate manual and pedal controls. Post WWII there were similar made in Russia - cheap, simple, duplicate controls, single or double seaters.
Omega Mart t-shirt, nice!
Jason looks like a beast from Men In Black 3 wearing this glasses
Boris the Animal
The original go kart
I can see Mr. Fischoeder from Bob's Burgers driving this.
Cycle Cars do still exist. The Polaris Slingshot is the most common, but there are several others too. They pretty much exist for the same reasons too.
The pivoting steering mechanism also still exists on large construction loaders. It swings the opposite direction from where you’re turning and it does indeed give a sensation of staring to tip over. Takes a while to get used to it.
I miss Jalopnik. Their website went to shit with huge screen blocking active ad popups that reoccur frequently and interfere with reading or seeing anything. I used to visit every day. Now I look maybe every month and they remind me why I don't go there anymore.
Is that centre pivot steering? If so no wonder it has a poor turning circle, any tighter and you would be making friends with the road surface for sure.
This seems like the same idea behind the Aston Martin Cygnet, a little city car for day-to-day use while your real car stays at home. This seems to have been about as successful as the Cygnet too.
No the cygnet was an emissions dodge
First, cyclecars were cheap.
The Cygnet was just a rebadged Toyota iQ.
And what was it's cost?
Arguably, a lot of those tuk-tuks in Asia that are built around motorcycle engines -- those are cycle cars.
Like the Omega Mart T
I have a 1100cc yamaha engine, it is shaft drive and air cooled, now I know what I must do with it!
Its the car from the kids UK show "brumm"
I'd buy one. Heck! I'd drive a street legal go kart to work if I had one.
Omega Mart!
How many were made? How many were sold? How many still exist? How many dollars would it take to bribe you to drive it again?
A cycle car was a motorcycle that kept itself upright and you didn't need motorcycle skills.
A bit like the Mini killed off microcars like the Isetta and Heinkel in 1959.
What the name this car?
The Morgan 3 Wheeler is available today!!
Morron!
Go away!
What size is the engine? how many cylinders ? you let slip it has two gears but why not tell us about this interesting little car? how many were made and where ? and why does tour camera person not show us much at all bar a beardy bloke in a t shirt ? why did I bother watching this, I guess it was made for 10 year olds.
No credit to the Lane Motor Museum? It’s all about you, isn’t it?
Who’s here from The Grey Nato?
Sounds a lot like my old Honda... lawnmower.
They are still making two Peron cycle cars in India.
The Grandfather of CycleKart´s.
Or Grandmother.
✌️
I like it. If this car was in India it would have 6 people on it....
Now we have ATV's, make street legal ATV's, electric
It’s a vintage smart car. Or those silly three wheeled electric vehicle thingies. None of the make sense today either.
It sounds like you keep saying "psycho car".
A Twizzy could be called a cycle car, think about it, same concept
You never told us why it should never have been made..... Nor did you even try to show us.
cycle cars popular in uk and europe usaly home made built with pushbike wheels alot lighter than the one you have a lot on you tube just saying
incomplete review, should have shown the engine, transmission, 2nd gear, reverse.
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍
Terrible camerawork
Check out chevy corvair it's the first turbo air cooled engine ever made !!!! Please where you located? I have a 1965 chevy corvair the war kinda killed off production its the cheap man's corvette 😁
The Boeing YB-17A Flying Fortress used an air-cooled turbocharged Wright R-1820 engine. This was in 1938, over twenty years before the Corvair Spyder. There might have easily been many other, even earlier, air-cooled turbocharged engines, even before 1938, but I haven't taken the time to research it. Those turbochargers were made by General Electric. So, the Spyder didn't have the "first" air-cooled turbocharged engine ever made.
@@KelikakuCoutin based on info I read it was the second turbo ever made first mass produced making it technically the first turbo air cooled CAR say it agian CAR
@@jokersmailes Do you have the Corsa or the Monza?
@@KelikakuCoutin 4 door 110 monza na (naturally aspirated) so not turbo I'm 24 years old 😁 I love boxer engines I see you folks with Subarus and saw this boxer engines and said yes please
Hardly even filmed the car, Get people who care next time...
I would take a Trabant over this monstrosity.
So talk about the car show video of the presenter, and limit image's of the car.... SMH
the worst filming ever!!! no decent actual shots of the car, interior or engine!!! hopeless!!
Six flags chaparral cars.