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  • @nextbaseIQ
    @nextbaseIQ 6 місяців тому +3

    Thanks!

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  6 місяців тому +1

      Many thanks. I actually thought I might get detained on this one, they didn't seem like they knew what they were doing

  • @WeAreThePeople1690
    @WeAreThePeople1690 Рік тому +617

    "As I said I'll do it under the terrorism act if I have to" So basicly a threat, if you don't comply I will abuse my powers to get my way. And they wonder why people don't like them.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +53

      I'll get you for something 😉

    • @ianlloyd100
      @ianlloyd100 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely no requirement to provide details when searched under section 43 of the terrorism act.. He'll eventually figure out his own job I suspect... Pity that us UA-cam trolls appear to know more than our highly trained monkeys in uniform....

    • @JoeBlack_The_Lord_of_Blackness
      @JoeBlack_The_Lord_of_Blackness Рік тому +1

      The "If I have too." Statement stops him from being able to use any part of the terrorism act.

    • @YouTube-are-Tory-Toilet-Crud
      @YouTube-are-Tory-Toilet-Crud Рік тому

      The only law being broken, upto the corrupt moronic police buffoons acted as they did, was the security guard not displaying his SIA badge, which is a criminal offence, with up to six months imprisonment and a fine when prosecuted.
      Officers Keystone Kops are complete idiots and an utter embarrassment to themselves and taxpayers, who funded their fiasco fest.
      They are glorified thugs, abusing police powers with ignorance and loathsome intent.
      A lawsuit must be compelling, a deserving outcome to the corrupt cops deplorable antics in abusing our civil rights.
      They need to be educated.

    • @danidelaney3555
      @danidelaney3555 Рік тому +26

      @FiendPhoto We know that, but they don't, or maybe they do and hope we don't 😐

  • @johntate5050
    @johntate5050 Рік тому +288

    They failed to detect a murderer and a rapist within their ranks but they caught someone who they suspected of filming into a canteen & were ready to charge him (under the wrong section) with being a terrorist. Excellent policing!

    • @ianlloyd5213
      @ianlloyd5213 Рік тому +4

      Well said 👍

    • @stgeorgescross
      @stgeorgescross Рік тому +6

      yeh 73 offences too how come they missed that

    • @tommybyrne6557
      @tommybyrne6557 Рік тому +1

      Half of the police force want sacking they are useless

    • @modi4473
      @modi4473 Рік тому +10

      @@stgeorgescross They didn’t miss it , they ignored it .

    • @ianhill4585
      @ianhill4585 Рік тому +5

      Excellent as in par for the course....... Excellent tyranny and making mountains out of mole hills.

  • @myaccount6778
    @myaccount6778 Рік тому +288

    That female pitch cop was a real “piece of work”. She really thought she knew it all but ended up KNOWING NOTHING. She’s a complete embarrassment to the police force and NEEDS TO BE FIRED 👿👿👿👿

    • @ianlloyd100
      @ianlloyd100 Рік тому +26

      It's always the, "butch" ones which embarass themselves. It's like they've got something to prove....... But fail miserably...

    • @tc5042
      @tc5042 Рік тому

      It's always the female cops that embarris them selves they talk complete crap they just don't know the law.

    • @asensibleyoungman2978
      @asensibleyoungman2978 Рік тому +19

      I liked it when he asked her to say yes or no to whether or not he was being detained and she replied with 'are you going to let me finish?' They always say that when they're beaten.

    • @annmc8392
      @annmc8392 Рік тому +8

      Both of them.

    • @Ukfairgrounds
      @Ukfairgrounds Рік тому +2

      @M3sterX very embarrassing many will have the brains for the poilce none will have the strength how on earth can a small women restrain a grown man it’s not going to happen there just get hurt

  • @hazemetz7896
    @hazemetz7896 Рік тому +143

    " I'll arrest you if you try to leave"
    *10 seconds later*
    "Nobody is stopping you from leaving" these fuckers can't even decidewhat laws the want to make up

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +10

      Yeah I couldn't believe it

    • @billkosses3808
      @billkosses3808 Рік тому +5

      Yeah but she was touching cloth by that point so changed her ickle story

  • @edwardecl
    @edwardecl Рік тому +72

    It should really be an offence for police officers to cite laws that don't exist.

    • @robba1234
      @robba1234 10 місяців тому +6

      Ha Ha, they basically arrest people and de-arrest with zero accountability,

    • @dudleydyer9224
      @dudleydyer9224 3 місяці тому

      There is, Section 26 but funnily enough it rarely gets used against their own

  • @ianrosie4431
    @ianrosie4431 Рік тому +124

    My God, those two officers were incompetent. So sad to see.

  • @jesuschrist2284
    @jesuschrist2284 Рік тому +158

    Clearly misconduct in a public office. Speak to a lawyer and get this muppet sacked

    • @interestedparty00
      @interestedparty00 Рік тому +6

      This is a perfect example of why it's stupid to talk to the police. She thought she could grasp on to the "zoomed in" part that he uttered. If he hadn't uttered anything, then she wouldn't have had that.

    • @jesuschrist2284
      @jesuschrist2284 Рік тому +1

      @@interestedparty00 unfortunately we no longer have the right to silence

    • @interestedparty00
      @interestedparty00 Рік тому +2

      @@jesuschrist2284, actually, we do - other than providing identifying information under certain circumstances.

    • @jesuschrist2284
      @jesuschrist2284 Рік тому

      @@interestedparty00 no, your silence can be used against you in court. Tories changed law a few years ago.

    • @mrchurch9830
      @mrchurch9830 Рік тому

      They just love to rape our rights

  • @oflaherty903
    @oflaherty903 Рік тому +127

    Its a shame they dont worry about the publics saftey as much as they do their own

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +4

      Exactly 💯

    • @gregkasza1925
      @gregkasza1925 Рік тому +7

      Obviously they only care about officer safety, while abusing the people.

    • @EddieSalford
      @EddieSalford Рік тому +3

      100%

    • @dranyamjust6303
      @dranyamjust6303 Рік тому

      Absolute bullshit, the police have saved my life TWICE in the last 6 months

  • @jameshblack
    @jameshblack Рік тому +16

    Everyone of these audits should be sent to head of police and members of Parliament to get these people educated and jailed for breaking the law

  • @focuspocus3690
    @focuspocus3690 Рік тому +81

    Just how many u-turns can they do on one encounter?!! The woman with a loaf on her head was a great find, and the section 60 from Mr Magoo....haharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +2

      😂 thanks for watching 🙏

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +2

      Did you see redponte1 at the end mention you 🙂

    • @interestedparty00
      @interestedparty00 Рік тому +2

      Why on earth would she wear her hair like that?? It looks incredibly unprofessional.

    • @focuspocus3690
      @focuspocus3690 Рік тому +8

      @@northernaudits I did mate, I'll have to get off my backside soon and do some more. C ya layterrrrrrrrrr. Keep up the good work.

    • @gazzertrn
      @gazzertrn Рік тому +1

      @@interestedparty00 One of a certain kind.

  • @fintonmainz7845
    @fintonmainz7845 Рік тому +303

    Threatening to "do" someone under the terrorism act, without reason is clearly a criminal assault.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +14

      Make something fit if you don't do as they want.

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 Рік тому +16

      @@northernaudits Trying to force someone to do something under threat is a criminal offence.

    • @angiebabe2813
      @angiebabe2813 Рік тому

      @@northernaudits they are the terrorists when u think about it, anyone that doesn't know their rights could be 'terrified' into having to give their details

    • @reccerat4446
      @reccerat4446 Рік тому +2

      Indeed, they usually require prior intelligence that the person in question is in some way tied to terry wrist orgs.

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому +4

      Recording a police station is reason to 'do' someone under the terrorism act. THey have no way of knowing what the footage is for, or even what the drone can do. Its perfectally reasonable to ask why someone is recording a building that people are infact not allowed into, in a way that people are not normally allowed to do.

  • @SuperSetsquare
    @SuperSetsquare Рік тому +73

    Once again the police made themselves look like complete morons. It would be interesting to find out how many genuine calls for help and assistance happened in the time they wasted harassing members of public. The two strangers knew more about the law than the police. Shame on them.

  • @philipjordan8145
    @philipjordan8145 Рік тому +92

    How incompetent is a complete embarrassment, abusing their power.

  • @gordonadamson5854
    @gordonadamson5854 Рік тому +24

    The terrorism act needs to be removed from the police like stop and search as it is constantly being abused by these tyrants

  • @jamesmorrell1143
    @jamesmorrell1143 Рік тому +8

    Promote this security guard. What a professional, calm demeanour.

  • @richardjones8699
    @richardjones8699 Рік тому +71

    It takes 18 weeks to be trained to become a Copper. It takes at least 2 years to be trained to become a hairdresser. And this is what we get.

    • @cheriegoodwin6819
      @cheriegoodwin6819 Рік тому

      Really....I thought it took 3 years training.... incidently I trained for 3 years at college to become a hair dresser...

    • @richardjones8699
      @richardjones8699 Рік тому

      @@cheriegoodwin6819 Yes, a person becomes a serving officer after just 18 weeks training. In terms of hairdressing, that's why I used the phrase "at least".

    • @cheriegoodwin6819
      @cheriegoodwin6819 Рік тому +2

      @@richardjones8699 Wow I'm so shocked no wonder they're crap at their jobs...just saying about hairdressers that's all...

    • @tracyniemeyer8691
      @tracyniemeyer8691 11 місяців тому

      Yes my 2 daughters are hairdressers

    • @robba1234
      @robba1234 7 місяців тому

      @@richardjones8699 the bad habits, wrongful arrest, bullying, intimidation, and corruption come later

  • @dahdidah8553
    @dahdidah8553 Рік тому +11

    The chap from the company needs a well done.
    Well done mate, an absolutely outstanding interaction. You are a credit Sir.

  • @TheUnderscope
    @TheUnderscope Рік тому +10

    I love the way she talks about you zooming in on a building as if you've just admitted to a bank robbery

  • @anthonymarsh4956
    @anthonymarsh4956 Рік тому +280

    Statically there is a higher chance of a police officer committing a crime than someone that is not.

    • @MatthewLenton
      @MatthewLenton Рік тому

      There's so many criminal and corrupt officers. They can't be bothered to respond to muggings, burglaries or assaults
      Perhaps if someone who was burgled flew their drone in a "threatening" manner, they'd be out like a shot in large numbers

    • @DaveThompsonfairlife4all
      @DaveThompsonfairlife4all Рік тому +8

      By a huge margin.

    • @Nellyontheland
      @Nellyontheland Рік тому +3

      Technically, no it isn't. But if it is could you link a statistic?
      I'm all for being FAIR so if it's not true, then we shouldn't lie to get our way with the interpretation of the cops.
      Cheers

    • @David-gr8rh
      @David-gr8rh Рік тому +9

      I read not long ago the good police have been asked to rat out the bad ones. Well shit we'll have no cops left. Ha

    • @johnvienta7622
      @johnvienta7622 Рік тому +2

      @@Nellyontheland , based on the number of Police as opposed to those who are not Police that claim may have merit. It is a bit of a tricky area as many Police are never convicted of crimes as the matter is either covered up, they are charged under Police disciplinary measures, or they are allowed to resign and matter is withdrawn.

  • @GpoppaJohn
    @GpoppaJohn Рік тому +128

    Absolute arseholes 😂 Section 60 of the terrorism act, what a numpty.
    Well done NA for standing your ground with the rozzers and demanding a Yes or No answer to the detainment. When she replied with, “I’m just waiting to hear” I screamed at the screen, “It doesn’t work like that”! then you said it 🤣 My response, “Good lad”.
    Great aerial footage as per usual.👍

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +6

      Yeah collared mid audit for a previous flight over their station and it just escalated from there. They left empty handed 😂Thanks 🙏 for watching

    • @SuperSetsquare
      @SuperSetsquare Рік тому +3

      I too was shouting at the screen, this no good for my blood pressure.

    • @margaretreid8692
      @margaretreid8692 Рік тому +2

      If they knew the law and they knew their job then they wouldn't have to radio someone else to find out what to do! Neither would they have to radio for assistance for nothing! They are power tripping on their inflated ego's.

  • @JoeBlack_The_Lord_of_Blackness
    @JoeBlack_The_Lord_of_Blackness Рік тому +97

    The cops really have no idea, do they.

    • @markyharley
      @markyharley Рік тому +7

      If there was a single senior officer with any intelligence, they would instruct these idiots to ignore auditors. Problem solved.

    • @Hammertime054
      @Hammertime054 Рік тому

      Nope😂😂👍thick as shite

  • @johnharvey848
    @johnharvey848 Рік тому +9

    Hands in pockets, standing in the road, scruffy shoes. Modern policing!

  • @ransranger
    @ransranger Рік тому +9

    Northern Audits... simply brilliant!!
    Shame about our embarrassing failing police force.
    I've just binged watched all your videos, looking forward to the next one😉

  • @mk310174
    @mk310174 Рік тому +112

    Section 1 of PACE is absolutely not related to what they wanted to use it for. Ask them what prohibited items they reasonably suspect are in your possession.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +17

      Looking for a dangerous zooming drone 😂

    • @alberttickle1106
      @alberttickle1106 Рік тому +1

      Exactly....ask them for the list of items...then when they find a pencil sharpener they can't use that for arrest.

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому +2

      Photography of a restricted area

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +2

      @@arthour051 anything that you can see from public or from the air can be photographed or filmed unless specifically forbidden by law. Police stations are fine to photograph and film. It's up to the police to make sure they hide anything they don't want people to see. Thanks 🙏 for watching 🙂

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому +2

      @@northernaudits Mm, except if you use a drone to get in somewhere you're not allowed to take pictures of it. Overflying the building is one thing, flying about the buildings to get pictures from multiple angles is another, and your comment asking if one of the buildings is a canteen, gives pretty reasonable suspicion that you might have flown about to look in through the windows. And I'm pretty sure the law prohibits taking pictures of restricted areas. Which would apply to taking them from the air. That's why sat images get blurred out in certain areas

  • @creativedwarves
    @creativedwarves Рік тому +94

    The guy that came out in the final part knew more about the law than the police officers. Well done mate.

    • @redponte1
      @redponte1 Рік тому +7

      Thnx, I watch a lot of them. Only came out to ask about the drone as I also use one

    • @TheBeardsShow
      @TheBeardsShow Рік тому +1

      @@redponte1 you are a breath of fresh air on these videos seriously.

    • @memphisdaniels3218
      @memphisdaniels3218 Рік тому

      @@redponte1 top marks fella 👌 get posting your own vids

    • @redponte1
      @redponte1 Рік тому +2

      @Memphis Daniels cheers mate, I do but not these type. I'm not a UA-camr as such I justvlike to record and edit our motorbike trips and post them for the lads to watch.

    • @memphisdaniels3218
      @memphisdaniels3218 Рік тому +1

      @@redponte1 as long as you enjoy what you're doing that's all that matters mate 👍

  • @philipjordan8145
    @philipjordan8145 Рік тому +41

    Do they seriously have nothing better to do. This is why the public do not trust them anymore

  • @homeyvancam3887
    @homeyvancam3887 Рік тому +13

    Exercising your civil rights..well done.

  • @FilmingBritain
    @FilmingBritain Рік тому +5

    The police in this country do not know the law everybody should get together and protest. These guys be held accountable for their own actions instead of just getting paid out by our public money. Make these guys pay the price. The corrupt police force but not all of them are the same, we hate the bad ones and the tyrants great video mate, well done💯

  • @MrBigsmiffy
    @MrBigsmiffy Рік тому +211

    It’s utterly embarrassing when the employees of a company know way more about the drone laws than the police.
    You handled that very well mate.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +4

      Thanks 🙏

    • @RaysRailVideos
      @RaysRailVideos Рік тому +17

      Everyone knows more about the laws than the cops do, the amount of vids u see with cops trying to make up laws haha

  • @timtam6442
    @timtam6442 Рік тому +45

    The threat of an unlawful arrest or unlawful detention is considered an Assault without Battery or Trespass of the Person under English law but only on the basis the threats causes alarm, harassment or distress

  • @shush_ya_mush
    @shush_ya_mush Рік тому +28

    Detained until they can ascertain whether you've committed an offense???
    What an absolute pair of clowns

  • @peterhemmings2929
    @peterhemmings2929 Рік тому +10

    Love your style, mate. Always dignified and classy with no ugly gloating or whining or provoking people who don't deserve it. Properly rude of them not to give an explanation before slinking off. The casual way he threatened to abuse those vital terrorism powers is one of the most disturbing things I've seen in these vids.

  • @AllRoundDefence610
    @AllRoundDefence610 10 місяців тому +4

    I find it staggering that the public these days know more about law than the police themselves

  • @sevenodonata
    @sevenodonata Рік тому +46

    Not a brain cell between them! 😂 The security guard was a gent though 👍

  • @richardkeating7300
    @richardkeating7300 Рік тому +120

    The public has every right to know what goes on inside any police station.

    • @judithmatthews8460
      @judithmatthews8460 Рік тому +8

      Check out Yardley ski he went into Wimbledon and they told him asking where designated smoking areas were was none of his business.

    • @longbar2344
      @longbar2344 Рік тому

      bull shit.

    • @margaretreid8692
      @margaretreid8692 Рік тому +1

      We are forced to pay for these clowns yet they tell us we are not 'allowed' to know what they are doing, it's none of our business! Time we stopped funding them they clearly are not working to provide a service for the taxpayer.

  • @danidelaney3555
    @danidelaney3555 Рік тому +36

    It wont be long before they stop you on the way home from shopping and demand to see your till receipt and a form of I.D. 🔨👮...😡

  • @Jo-yp8wy
    @Jo-yp8wy Рік тому +45

    Absolute disgrace. Watching from Austria, by the way. They need to know they're being watched from all over the place.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому

      Wow Austria, I would love to go there one day. Do they audit there?

  • @gringoheineken3851
    @gringoheineken3851 Рік тому +6

    i am losing my job soon being made redundant :( but after watching these two officers it looks like they employ anyone these days i will try to join the police force and praise every auditor that arrives

  • @bestofukaudits1274
    @bestofukaudits1274 6 місяців тому +2

    I think your Auditing style is perfect, not cocky but standing your ground at the same time not giving away your knowledge until they put their foot in it.

  • @B.landon
    @B.landon Рік тому +44

    The guys working there had more common sense then the old bill, embarrassing to be honestly. thumbs up to the security guard at the beginning👍. Didn't come out barking orders.

  • @peterb2272
    @peterb2272 Рік тому +39

    There has got to be formal complaints on these two wombles.. 1. Inappropriate use of Terrorism Legislation. 2. Inappropriate threat of Section 1. 3. Failure to inform you they were recording. 4. Unprofessional approach to the Public. 5. Lack of knowledge of appropriate laws.

    • @danielgardecki1046
      @danielgardecki1046 Рік тому +2

      6 - Stalking him in their vehicle

    • @stuartb4525
      @stuartb4525 Рік тому +3

      The female first words was that she was recording. That's the only thing she got right.

    • @allanallen1835
      @allanallen1835 Рік тому +2

      if they had to payout of own personal pocket for any compo they woukd all be better cops over night. at the moment snything claimed and won comes from the tax payers pocket. serves no purpose to detere behavioure like this.

    • @tc5042
      @tc5042 Рік тому

      Totally agree 👍

  • @jackblue4078
    @jackblue4078 Рік тому +61

    Section 60 is a search act only can be used if authorised by an inspector or above

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +6

      Exactly ☺️💯

    • @bournagin4439
      @bournagin4439 Рік тому +1

      Different Section 60 to Section 60 Terrorism Act.

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому

      You do understand the inspector doesnt have to be there in person though, right?

    • @jamesclough7656
      @jamesclough7656 Рік тому +1

      @@arthour051 you do realise that an inspector isn't going to authorise a section 60 based solely on the grounds that someone is doing public photography?

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому

      @@jamesclough7656 Of a restricted area that they have no public right to access, and are being extremely evasive about the purpose of said photography. Like let's make this point clear, flying a drone for ver a restricted area you aren't allowed into on foot, to take photos without permission to take photos of an area you wouldn't be allowed to take photos of on foot is not public photography. Common sense dictates if you can't do it on foot, you can't do it in the air either

  • @mrwriter86
    @mrwriter86 Рік тому +4

    I really liked that security guard. Balanced, calm and rational. I think he also appreciated the compliment when he was compared to the police officers. SIA badge was an issue but I can forgive that for his approach.

  • @chrisd8884
    @chrisd8884 Рік тому +4

    I really hope that these officers were reported for their conduct

  • @keithcrisham3951
    @keithcrisham3951 Рік тому +47

    This is why we don't talk to the police. Giving them too much ammo against you dude. Fair play, keep up the good work mate

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +5

      I knew everything I said and did was not illegal 😂 thanks for watching 🙏😊

    • @peterdurnien9084
      @peterdurnien9084 Рік тому +3

      @@northernaudits A barrister would tell you never to talk to the police, see all hear all, say nowt.

  • @anvilbrunner.2013
    @anvilbrunner.2013 Рік тому +42

    Section 60 is a stop & search for when plod suspects you are about to commit an extreme act of violence.

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому

      Like blowing up a police station, or using footage to plan to blow up a police station

    • @tonyhill8300
      @tonyhill8300 Рік тому +1

      Well you can make any think up in your mind but you have to be able to prove the suspicion

    • @DBiggaFigga666
      @DBiggaFigga666 Рік тому +2

      Section 60 powers have to be authorised by a Senior Police Officer and are for specific designated locations and durations as is necessary to prevent serious violence.
      They can't just randomly put one in place and there needs to justification that is defensible in order to evidence that the need to prevent violence trumps people's rights not to be stop and searched unless you are suspected of having committed a crime, suspected of possessing a weapon, suspected to be a danger to yourself or others, suspected of terrorist activity or they have a search warrant........they also require reasonable grounds for those suspicions.
      The officers here were a pair of idiots without a clue.

    • @DBiggaFigga666
      @DBiggaFigga666 Рік тому

      @@arthour051 they require reasonable suspicion that you are going to do so to search you.........just simply taking the footage isn't reasonable grounds to leap to the assumption that will be the end use for it. They need to couple the taking of the footage with some other objective evidence to pair the two to reach such a conclusion.
      Section 60 also isn't the power they would be entitled to use.......that would be Section 43.......and Section 43 does not compel the person being searched to identify themselves.
      Suspicion isn't a crime nor is it objective......it is subjective as different people will find different things suspicious........despite them not being unlawful.

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому

      @@DBiggaFigga666 Its not just the taking of footage, but *where* the footage is of, that gives reasonable justification. You have no reason to fly a drone over a police station to take pictures of their canteen. Also, Section 60 is solicitation to commit terrorism, solicitation includes providing materials that can be used to commit a terrorist act, ie; advice on where or what to target.
      To your last point, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how that works. Suspicion *of a crime* is sufficient reason to stop someone. If the police have reasonable suspicion a crime has, is being, or will soon be commited, they can detain you until they assertain whats going on. And being detained, gives them the right to ID you, for the purposes of their investigation.

  • @EddieSalford
    @EddieSalford Рік тому +58

    That was embarrassing, prime examples of two human beings that are given powers and think they can abuse them. They also proven the saying "Never talk to the Police" you said zoomed in, and they escalated that into something it was not. They were threatening and intimidating, and tried to frighten you. Both need retraining, but probably so do the training school also.

    • @DroningYorkshire
      @DroningYorkshire Рік тому +2

      Thats a loose term Human!

    • @margaretreid8692
      @margaretreid8692 Рік тому +3

      thugs training more thugs and this is what you get. They don't give a toss about the law all they want to do is intimidate and threaten innocent people. When was the last time they caught and prosecuted a REAL criminal? Probably never

    • @suminshizzles6951
      @suminshizzles6951 Рік тому +3

      @@margaretreid8692 How could they when there are too many in their own ranks?

  • @ryanwilson368
    @ryanwilson368 Рік тому +6

    It’s a dangerous time when the security guard has more sense that the officer 😢😅

  • @fluidjazz
    @fluidjazz Рік тому +4

    What a pair of cowards, no apology, no acknowledgment they were in the wrong they just drove off, how unprofessional. Typical.

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique2927 Рік тому +31

    No ID. under any act. You must be arrested first. Even then no ID until you are at the station.

    • @Renegade1127
      @Renegade1127 Рік тому +2

      @Don't Shoot Nope.
      The first thing you are told when arrested is ~ you don't have to say anything ~
      That includes when being 'booked in'.
      That's why cops cannot LAWFULLY arrest you to obtain details.

    • @eclectic_gamer
      @eclectic_gamer Рік тому +1

      @Don't Shoot acts and statutes are not law, they are only given the power of law by consent or contract, they require a contract that is why they wanted his name to create joinder, the government *does not and cannot* create any laws.
      [cruden v neale 1796] "...every MAN is independent of all laws, EXCEPT those prescribed in nature, he is not bound by ANY INSTITUTIONS formed by his fellowman WITHOUT his CONSENT."

    • @monkstandinglast
      @monkstandinglast Рік тому +1

      exactly what i said with the added never id until at the custody desk and then only say two things after, request phhone call and repeat i want a duty solicitor and only that

  • @keithsmith8525
    @keithsmith8525 Рік тому +33

    If they really thought you had, or were, committing an illegal act, they would not have given you the opportunity to leave. It was pure face-saving and ego driven. This is clearly a matter of complaint to the IOPC.

  • @kridgwell
    @kridgwell Рік тому +31

    That was so painful on both sides of that fence. You MUST know ALL relevant police powers and legislation, inside and out, off by heart even. If not they will walk all over you.

  • @stevecowdell6622
    @stevecowdell6622 Рік тому +5

    I did not think even a, so called, policeman could utter such stupidity, says it all really.

  • @rob103rl
    @rob103rl Рік тому +5

    The bloke at 27:30 was more informed than our police, not only the young lady, but the middle aged PC. Unbelievable! Edit: Believable!

  • @danielgardecki1046
    @danielgardecki1046 Рік тому +33

    Not even a third of the way through the video yet, but from the start female tyrant has had a worried and scared look on her face, whereas male tyrant has had an angry look on his face, plus neither of them know what the law is.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +5

      They wanted to take some action so badly😂

    • @misssparky5574
      @misssparky5574 Рік тому

      🎯💯💯👏🙋‍♀️🇬🇧🤯🤡🐷🥓😡

  • @pigswillbepigs
    @pigswillbepigs Рік тому +126

    And there is a reason no one should ever talk to the police. This video is a prime example why all police constables and every police station needs to be vetted for suitability to carry out the roll of constable, that would also include the people higher up the ladder. I’m guessing these two should be looked into as a matter of urgency.
    because I can’t get my own way I will go against all police policy and abuse your rights.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +16

      Exactly. I knew none of what I did was illegal so I was covered🙂 but yeah they worked hard trying to make an offence here

    • @misssparky5574
      @misssparky5574 Рік тому +1

      🎯💯👍👏👏🙋‍♀️🇬🇧🤯🤡🐷🥓😡

    • @KwekuLynx
      @KwekuLynx Рік тому +1

      @@northernaudits Is not what you do, it is what you say. Who stated talking about zooming YOU right.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +2

      @@KwekuLynx yeah there's nothing wrong with zooming 🙂

    • @jamesclough7656
      @jamesclough7656 Рік тому +1

      @@KwekuLynx talking about something perfectly legal in front of a "good officer" shouldn't give them grounds to suspect you of anything, only a bad officers will twist what you say to their own benefit.

  • @pamelapowell8776
    @pamelapowell8776 Рік тому +3

    Keep up the good work you’re educating those who don’t know or understand their rights. police force need to understand they are public servants

  • @KevinJEvans
    @KevinJEvans 6 місяців тому +3

    WOW What an unprofessional coiuple of cops.

  • @michaelgreene8257
    @michaelgreene8257 Рік тому +20

    I love the policewoman’s interpretation, technically you are going inside as you are looking through a window. I guess if you had a curfew tag, technically you are going outside if you look out of a window.

  • @nosmo-king
    @nosmo-king Рік тому +15

    An audit done in a calm and collective way with no name calling or unnecessary arguments. The security guard was a well presented guy with an excellent command of the English language.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому

      Thanks 🙏 all my videos are done to try and avoid confrontation, and if you watch them you might notice I do things slightly different in that I never approach people. People only ever approach me knowing I'm filming and they set the tone for the interaction. We can have a friendly chat but if they try and boss me about or get angry then they lead the conversation in that direction. Thanks 🙏 for watching

  • @srp01983
    @srp01983 Рік тому +4

    The security guy was really cool, and clever enough to say that he didn’t know exactly what the rules and regs are, but he would get clarification - that’s what you call being sensible. The two guys at the end were also genuinely interested and knew what they were talking about. What a complete contrast to the plonkers in uniform - especially the woman who decided it was ok to deliberately distort what you told her to justify her ridiculous lack of knowledge of the law.

  • @KestrelAerial
    @KestrelAerial Рік тому +3

    The moment she said you were free to go she admitted she knew no offence had been committed.

  • @debramitchell53
    @debramitchell53 Рік тому +22

    Omg the male and female cops were such an absolute embarrassment, and it’s no wonder that the police are under such close scrutiny. Even though just a grade C GCSE is sufficient to join the police, I’m amazed these two could have even achieved a grade E in a GCSE😀.

    • @geoffreybevan4301
      @geoffreybevan4301 Рік тому +1

      certainly would not pass a GCSE in COMMON SENSE but maybe a grade A in BULLSHIT.

    • @stevegiles4549
      @stevegiles4549 Рік тому

      You need a degree to join the police nowadays.

    • @susand9296
      @susand9296 Рік тому

      They are scraping the barrel with these two halfwits.

  • @egastap
    @egastap Рік тому +23

    Sounds like the Terrorism Act is the "go to" solution to all the cops problems.

    • @mrwriter86
      @mrwriter86 Рік тому

      They should search themselves under the Terrorism Act, for the terror they try to instil on the law abiding public.
      Imagine threatening it then driving off without even a courtesy to say anything. Both of them are a disgrace.
      Edit: I meant to add, there isn’t a thought about what their words could do to a person. If I was going about my legal business and all of a sudden my rights and privacy (name etc) were at risk, and I was thought of as a terrorist that’d really stick with me. It’s a serious allegation but they throw it out as a threat in order to get your details. It’s a complete abuse of position.

    • @suminshizzles6951
      @suminshizzles6951 Рік тому +1

      It is when you supposedly "challenge" their puny little brains.

  • @east-endjustice7883
    @east-endjustice7883 Рік тому +4

    It's irrelevant whether you zoom in or not if you can see from a public space including open air space. Congratulations though, please keep us posted on the process and outcome of this lawsuit/settlement! They are so generous with tax payer money!!!

  • @MorrisseysMonkey
    @MorrisseysMonkey Рік тому +3

    These two police would make excellent Coronation Street actors.

  • @A2Z1Two3
    @A2Z1Two3 Рік тому +13

    David Carrick has done terrible damage to the police reputation , and this lot are compounding that bad reputation. 😮

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +1

      Hunting down a guy with a drone to try pin something on him, that's what it felt like

    • @Renegade1127
      @Renegade1127 Рік тому

      Not just Carrick, there's Couzens and that inspector who killed himself to avoid being charged - he also had 'friends' who were ex-cops.

  • @bEEBO178
    @bEEBO178 Рік тому +12

    Even her eyebrows have had enough of her and leaving

  • @CommanderStarblaster
    @CommanderStarblaster Рік тому +18

    Unbelievable! First grandad cop tries to look up some law on his mobile phone and just comes up with a totally irrelevant section of the Terrorism Act, then they both collude to contact someone who might know 'something' about the law for them to use to fit someone up due to their crass ignorance. Even Section 1 of 'PACE', is completely wrong because they have no suspicion of N.A. having anything he shouldn't have on him.

  • @sapankhurst2015
    @sapankhurst2015 Рік тому +4

    I just don't know why but the Knight Drone wobble shot always brings a smile to my face.
    Wonder what the constables have to hide in the cop shop. More auditors need to visit.😎

  • @MartensAD
    @MartensAD Рік тому +48

    Section 60 of the Terrorism act pertains to a person who encourages another person to commit violence. I think it is something that has been used in Northern Ireland. He may be referring to Section 60 of the Public Order Act, which does allow an officer to stop and search without reasonable grounds, but only if it has been authorised by an inspector for a 24 hour period in a particular area. It is used to counter knife crime in London. It does not require ID. I think the male officer just plucked a number out of the air. Section 1 of pace gives power to an officer to stop and search but only with reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime has been committed. Those grounds must be based on objective fact, not just on some kind of hunch. Flying a drone in unrestricted air space is not a crime.

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +5

      Exactly. Thanks for the info ☺️

    • @germaninsider7890
      @germaninsider7890 Рік тому +3

      60Northern Ireland.
      (1)A person commits an offence if-
      (a)he incites another person to commit an act of terrorism wholly or partly outside the United Kingdom, and
      (b)the act would, if committed in Northern Ireland, constitute one of the offences listed in subsection (2).
      (2)Those offences are-
      (a)murder,
      (b)an offence under section 18 of the Offences against the M1Person Act 1861 (wounding with intent),
      (c)an offence under section 23 or 24 of that Act (poison),
      (d)an offence under section 28 or 29 of that Act (explosions), and
      (e)an offence under Article 3(2) of the M2Criminal Damage (Northern Ireland) Order 1977 (endangering life by damaging property).
      (3)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable to any penalty to which he would be liable on conviction of the offence listed in subsection (2) which corresponds to the act which he incites.
      (4)For the purposes of subsection (1) it is immaterial whether or not the person incited is in the United Kingdom at the time of the incitement.
      (5)Nothing in this section imposes criminal liability on any person acting on behalf of, or holding office under, the Crown.

    • @johnharvey848
      @johnharvey848 Рік тому +1

      Excellent comment.

    • @eclectic_gamer
      @eclectic_gamer Рік тому

      if you are a person that would make you a corpse, PERSON is legalese so you need to look at blacks law dictionary for the correct definition, a "person" is always an artificial legal person of one kind or another legally generated.
      artificial person: "A NONHUMAN ENTITY that is created by law and is legally different owning its own rights and duties."
      [Blacks Law Dictionary 2nd ed.]
      as opposed to...
      Natural Person: " *A HUMAN BEING* naturally born, versus a legally generated juridical person."
      [Blacks Law Dictionary 2nd ed.]

    • @arthour051
      @arthour051 Рік тому

      They specifically say it's not the flying of the drone that's the issue, it's the taking of pictures of a restricted area that's an issue. So there's your reasonable grounds, he took pictures potentially of the inside of a police station, using a drone to access areas he would not otherwise be able to acces as they are closed to the general public.

  • @mauricejbiz
    @mauricejbiz Рік тому +10

    Sec 26 criminal justice and courts act, constable acting outside his authority, with threats etc.

  • @bulldogaudits
    @bulldogaudits Рік тому +43

    Under section 1 of PACE, a police constable may stop, detain, and search any person or vehicle in a public place, as long as the officer has 'reasonable grounds' for suspecting that they will find stolen or prohibited articles - such as drugs, a weapon, stolen property, prohibited fireworks

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +10

      So it begs the question ❓ if you fly over a police building and zoom in, would it be reasonable to suspect the flyer is armed 😂

    • @tonyking9235
      @tonyking9235 Рік тому +3

      WRONG . THAY NEED AN INSPECTOR TO ORDER THAT .

  • @jackeck2128
    @jackeck2128 Рік тому +2

    The female cop with a birds nest on her head hasn't got a clue 🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @oregon433
    @oregon433 Рік тому +23

    Nice to see people waking up

  • @peterb2272
    @peterb2272 Рік тому +14

    They need a drone flight over their police station.

    • @danielgardecki1046
      @danielgardecki1046 Рік тому

      They've had countless as the head office, yet they still don't know the law.

  • @shanehogarth6373
    @shanehogarth6373 Рік тому +14

    Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the Police in this one. I can't believe they didn't show just an ounce of humility and come to speak with you before departing. Good video but a great shame they showed themselves in that light. Hope someone in charge sees this and acts accordingly.

  • @ianhill4585
    @ianhill4585 Рік тому +2

    The crafty bint tried to do the 'not detained but not free to go', ploy, auditor was right. "Am i detained? Yes or no? "
    It's that simple.

  • @waynesaunders4599
    @waynesaunders4599 Рік тому +3

    Absolute joke those officers, waiting around to find out if they have a reason to search you while real police work needs to be done

    • @davidcoventry941
      @davidcoventry941 8 місяців тому

      They wouldn't know what real police work is.
      Glorified security guards, totally incompetent.

  • @gav2759
    @gav2759 Рік тому +14

    That's not fair, it was three against one.......they never stood a chance.

  • @castertroy7238
    @castertroy7238 Рік тому +16

    Police couldn't lower themselves enough to say goodbye after not being able to get you for anything lol 😂😂😂
    Shame that they aren't so enthusiastic when there's a gang of youths.
    Your drone footage is no.1 dude. We get a good audit and a great edit with the build up of the music and drone footage in sync.
    Awesome 🙂

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому +1

      Thanks 🙏 yeah I'm always working on improving the drone show🙂

  • @cosmicretrouniverse
    @cosmicretrouniverse Рік тому +2

    The two bumbling Keystone cops spent so much time on "Canteengate" It was a freaking joke.

  • @alezandercorben4122
    @alezandercorben4122 7 місяців тому +1

    Copper policy enforcement officers, doing a great job, protecting the corporations, leaving members of the public vulnerable while they deal with a guy with a drone.

  • @N1611n
    @N1611n Рік тому +12

    Don"t engage with them.

  • @kmt6985
    @kmt6985 Рік тому +9

    Hope he had his inspector on speed dial if he wanted to use section 60, they or above have to authorise the use of that one

    • @northernaudits
      @northernaudits  Рік тому

      Yeah, I knew that too when he said it that's why I wasn't worried at all.

  • @truckerfromreno
    @truckerfromreno Рік тому +6

    Engaging with a member of the public in that fashion without actually knowing what the law is. Then drive off without giving an apology. What a pair of wallies those 'police' were. Shocking policing.

  • @floatingfreedom6091
    @floatingfreedom6091 Рік тому +2

    A police station that we pay for young lady. Unbelievable attitude on these two.

  • @timbailey4348
    @timbailey4348 Рік тому +1

    a good example for citizen arrest of both police officers for threats to abduct .and misuse of the law.

  • @annmc8392
    @annmc8392 Рік тому +9

    Incompetence describes both these officers. She wanted you to go just so she can say they dealt with you.
    I love the night time drone views👍

  • @ambmainman
    @ambmainman Рік тому +12

    But wait a minute......by his own admission ( I'll use the terrorism act if necessary) that police officer has confirmed he has no grounds to search you or get your identity.....and that is an abuse of that act!

  • @marycollins4288
    @marycollins4288 Рік тому +11

    Section 60 cannot be used under these circumstances

  • @ryanhunter9327
    @ryanhunter9327 Рік тому +2

    The security guy seems super chill and willing to listen. 4737 and his lady friend are tyrants

    • @johnallright6847
      @johnallright6847 Рік тому

      Was it a lady? Thought myself it might have been a chappie!

  • @benji.B-side
    @benji.B-side Рік тому +2

    If this is what police go on like, with such threats, while knowingly getting filmed. Imagine what they would be like without cameras watching them.

  • @moby1388
    @moby1388 Рік тому +10

    If you are free to go then you're free to stay. The police cannot move you on from a public area

  • @1chiefg
    @1chiefg Рік тому +8

    I find it hilarious that they say about terrorism, then leave you to just stand around, potentially leave etc. If they legitimately thought you're a terrorist, would they just let you leave? Of course not.

  • @markyharley
    @markyharley Рік тому +15

    It's as if senior police are instructing their officers to deliberately ignore the law and their own policies and to misuse anti-terror law to discourage auditors from exercising their right to film in public.

  • @jonneyuk7486
    @jonneyuk7486 Рік тому +1

    Those two should be putting tickets on cars, they shouldn’t be trying to enforce laws they know nothing about on the public. Totally full of assumptions, a complete disgrace and totally unfit to be in these positions.

  • @TABRO284
    @TABRO284 Рік тому +10

    So happy to see some normal people at the end.

  • @wintron
    @wintron Рік тому +8

    She says, "If you want to get off you can by all means you can go" which really means we have no right to detain you or charge you with anything but still our personal egos are too great so we will still act like we have control over you and never admit that our superiors have told us to leave you alone for not doing anything against the law and just get back to work.