After hearing the Clash version, Lee Perry contacted them and ended up producing one of their tracks for them. The song was written by Junior Murvin & Lee Perry and Produced by Lee Perry. Lee Perry used the riddim a few times with other artists.
Complete Control was the song he produced. Very un-reggae,and one of my favourite Clash/punk songs. In my top 3 punk classics. Police & Thieves is up there too.
@@SPKdesign1 Yeah,’Complete’ was their reply after CBS released ’Remote’ as a single against their wishes. Still,it galvanised them into producing a classic.
The Clash were huge aficionados of Reggae & recorded Bankrobber & toured with the late Mikey Dread. Other notable Reggae tracks they did include Armageddon Times , White Man In Hammersmith Palace & Guns Of Brixton. 📻 🇯🇲
@@davidellis5141 I'm trying to remember the sources. The main track i "Bank Robber/Robber Dub" is on the 10", Black Market Clash, that is also available in a 3x10" extended set. "Rocker's Glaore is the B side of the Bank Robber 7". If that's wrong, I'm sure someone will correct it. I put a mix of it up on UA-cam but it's from years ago when I was using it as a learning project for some software I started using. I think it has a few views now.
Excellent choice comparison! I have to say that when the Clash do a cover of someone else's song, the Clash usually wins. Try "Pressure Drop by The Specials and the Clash and Toots and the Maytals! Triple comparison!
I love both Booker T & the MGs original of Time is Tight and the Clash’s cover version…. As usual the Clash has a more aggressive vibe, but the one note, one finger piano parts kill me every time.
I really like the comparison reactions (i just subscribed because of them). At some point you might want to tackle All Along the Watchtower by Dylan and Hendrix... Dylan liked the Hendrix version so much he's played it that way ever since.
that's the thing with the Clash: they made all their cover songs into new songs based on the originial rather than trying to make the same tune. they made many cover songs, including this, Revolution Rock, Brand New Cadillac, I fought the law, etc - and everytime they did not destroy the original but made a totally new song!
There are a few really good Reggae artists with hiiiigh voices. The Congos, whos best known lp was also produced by Lee Perry and Flick Wilson to name two.
Also the guy in The Stylistics singing lead in their 'You Make Me Feel Brand New' comes to my mind now. I'd believed for a looong time that was a woman 😅 They're not a Reggae group, though 🙂
@@hanierfamily - I'm listening to that one right now, for the first time; Wow! Old Hucknall's doing an amazing job there! 🤩👍 I think he does tip into falsetto for the really high notes, but not for the rest of it, and THAT'S truly remarkable! 👏😃
@@hanierfamily I didn't realise they did a version. I wasn't so impressed with their singer, the big ginger. Having said that the band themselves are good musicians. They covered Gregory Isaacs' "Night Nurse" and that was that.
I thought the religious bit may have been more sincere and come over stronger in original, maybe that’s why he didn’t like cover. I like both versions a lot though
I love watching you both especially when listening to the Punk stuff as this is the music of my youth - However regarding The Clash, I can't believe you haven't reviewed their finest moment 'Complete Control' the song is literally the Bohemian Rhapsody of Punk - I first heard it as a 13 year old in 1977 - I'm 60 this year and it's still for me the greatest record ever - such power, such melody it has everything - please do a review
Judging only on attire in the videos it seems Murvin identifies more with the police while The Clash look like the thieves. I heard The Clash first so it's my fave. Same with all their covers.
I have a suggestion for " Who did it best " Thin Lizzy and Space Elevator performing, Don't believe a word. This would be a great comparison, firstly because Space Elevator has a female singer ( who slays this cover ) and it's very different
Let's do " Take Me To The River " Reverend Al's in '74 Foghat '76 Bryan Ferry '78 Levon Helms '78 And of course Talking Heads '78!! Byrne wrote , " Coincidence or Conspiracy? 4 versions out at the same time? More $ for Mr. Green's church "! 😂
Toughest choice so far for me, I probably have to give it to The Clash, much as I love Junior Murvin. Mick Jones trying his best to channel Junior's falsetto in the backing vocals! It's just a touch out, which is pretty endearing to me
And speaking of DOA and 'You Spin Me 'Round (Like A Record)', both my Sons were obsessed with that song a few years ago, when they were 12 and 14: The younger one with the original and his brother with the remake by Flo Rida 😄 Anyway, the only 80's song that comes to *my* mind with similar falsetto singing is 'Walking On The Chinese Wall' by Philip Bailey, and subsequently also 'Easy Lover', his duet with Phil Collins 😀
Speaking of DOA, although it's a different DOA, this one backed Jello Biafro for a short while. Look up D.O.A. War On 45 and two particular tracks on there. "War" and "War In The East", both great covers.
@@SPKdesign1 - Cool, and thank you for the tip! 😉👍 Pretty L8 here in NZ so I will check those songs later today 😀 I did hear of D.O.A. before too, though 😊 Jello Biafra was in the Dead Kennedys, wasn't he? I love their cover of 'Take This Job And Shove It' 😄👍
The best is the OG version by singerJunior Murvin and legendary producer Lee "Scratch" Perry but im kinda biased here 😁. I do like the cover to Scratch was appalled by The Clash's version indeed, but he was very detailed and controlling in his productions so something taking his work and editing it must have struck him wrong. He made some legendary tracks though. One i really like is another production by him, Lord Creator - Such Is Life. Would love to add that one to the list. Lord Creator is actually the original artists of Kingston Town, later covered and made famous by UB40. Could also be a comparison, although you would be comparing the same genre.
Kia ora hello Hanier Whanau how are you guys doing? Both of these versions are pure gold in my opinion. And Junior's opinion of the Clashs version is surprising and unfounded but it's his song. BUT I THINK HE'S WRONG!!! And Chris i hope you are getting used to always being right Now you know the rules according TO ME THE ARIES WITH THE QUADRUPLE A RATING ARROGANT AUCKLAND ARIE'S AHOLE WE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT 👍👍👍
Yeah, for me The Clash fully fleshed this out. I can't imagine why Junior Murvin would have said that, but out of context, and not knowing the timing of the comment, who knows. The Clash had a healthy respect for reggae music as exhibited by their own composition from this album "White Man in Hammersmith Palais" and their frequent forays into dub. Almost never go with the cover, but here I would.
I do not agree with that one is done better musically speaking. Perry made his production in the 1970's with outdated equipment even for the standards back in those days but accomplished to get everything out of it. If you listen to a good quality version of the Junior Murvin song, you will find that its actually been produced very well, with a lot of detail in the song, something thats really missing in the YT version you played. I do get why you guys liked The Clash version better, its a very nice song, and maybe has a little more going as a whole. The Junior Murvin song is really rocking though if you are into Dub like i am😉
I'd voted for this because I've never heard the Junior Murvin version before, despite having known The Clash's for 37 years; I reckon they are *both* cool 🤩 Comparing The Clash's 'I Fought The Law' with the original by The Bobby Buller Four would've also been interesting 😊 *Edit:* Oh DUH! I just realised I *did* hear the original before! But it was only a very short bit from the 1st verse, in the background of something I was watching not long ago, and I remember thinking something like, "Ugh...some chick's ripping off The Clash! 😏" 😂
@@mightyV444 The original of "Armagideon Time" was by Willie Williams. He did two different versions of it but I prefer the later one that has a 12" version.
@@mightyV444 There are a few versions of "Junco Partner" oot there but not sure who did the original. The version I first heard was by The Holy Modal Rounders.
Everyone has their opinion but if the original composer doesn't like a cover version of his song then that opinion has more weight than of any objective listener's, just as if the composer liked the version then it is taken as a great compliment. To dismiss the original composer's opinion as just an opinion is belittling.
Yep! OK , Havent heard Junior Murvin for about mmmm cant say ! Never heard these tunes backto back ! Which is great way to things ! I prefer the Clash , even though they havent changed the tune that much ! Just their own take on it , and a bit reverb ! Ace !!
The Clash by miles I'm an ex British serviceman and used a lot of different weapons. It wouldn't bother me if I never picked up another rifle as long as I live. I'm of the opinion that the only people who need guns are Armed Services, police and farmers.
Both songs are great in their own right, murvin had that laid back Jamaican reggae vibe but the clash gave it the punch in the guts that the song needed, so the clash wins it for me!
Not sure but Alberto Y Los Trios Paranoias released a 4 track 7" with a track called "Snuffin' Inna Babylon" but not sure which was recorded/released first. It's as offensive as you could be for the time and quite hilarious at the same time. The Bass player and possibly Vocalist Bob (?) Harding went onto play with the Mothmen with one of the others members that then went on to be part of Simply Red (who got a mention in one of the other comments). One of them also (I think) went on to play with The Durutti Column.
Thanks for the info, might have to search that out. Talking of punk, I would like to nominate ‘Real World’ by Buzzcocks, first track off their Love Bites album. Or anything by Buzzcocks really xx
Maybe this is where the two tribes don't like each others music that much and there are hundreds of artists that don't really like the covers people do of their songs but put up with it because it brings them back from obscurity and brings them a new audiences. I always thought the clash a hypocritical band that would jump on the latest "cause". I wonder if they ever go to Nicaragua? Or does " sting" ever go back to the Amazon. Or are they just political commentators?
I love both. But junior is what you listen to before bed. The clash is what you start the day with.
After hearing the Clash version, Lee Perry contacted them and ended up producing one of their tracks for them.
The song was written by Junior Murvin & Lee Perry and Produced by Lee Perry. Lee Perry used the riddim a few times with other artists.
Complete Control was the song he produced. Very un-reggae,and one of my favourite Clash/punk songs. In my top 3 punk classics. Police & Thieves is up there too.
@@normandavidtidiman9918 That's the one. I ayeways get that title confused with "Remote Control".
@@SPKdesign1 Yeah,’Complete’ was their reply after CBS released ’Remote’ as a single against their wishes. Still,it galvanised them into producing a classic.
@@normandavidtidiman9918 I didn't know that. I like finding oot new things.
@@SPKdesign1 Happy to be of service 😉
The Clash were huge aficionados of Reggae & recorded Bankrobber & toured with the late Mikey Dread. Other notable Reggae tracks they did include Armageddon Times , White Man In Hammersmith Palace & Guns Of Brixton. 📻 🇯🇲
We did White Man In Hammersmith Palais. We added the others to our list.
@@hanierfamily There are 3 bits for "Bank Robber". "Bank Robber", "Bank Robber Dub" and "Rockers Galore" with Mikey Dread.
@@SPKdesign1 On that 10" ?
@@davidellis5141 I'm trying to remember the sources. The main track i "Bank Robber/Robber Dub" is on the 10", Black Market Clash, that is also available in a 3x10" extended set. "Rocker's Glaore is the B side of the Bank Robber 7". If that's wrong, I'm sure someone will correct it.
I put a mix of it up on UA-cam but it's from years ago when I was using it as a learning project for some software I started using. I think it has a few views now.
@@SPKdesign1 Thanks 😊
Both are brilliant tunes..
both are excellent tracks
Two great performances. The Clash nick it with that bass-line.
Excellent choice comparison! I have to say that when the Clash do a cover of someone else's song, the Clash usually wins. Try "Pressure Drop by The Specials and the Clash and Toots and the Maytals! Triple comparison!
YES!
I love both Booker T & the MGs original of Time is Tight and the Clash’s cover version…. As usual the Clash has a more aggressive vibe, but the one note, one finger piano parts kill me every time.
Hell yeah. One of the best songs. Love them both, but the Clash feels closer to my backstreets anyways.❤ Kind regards from Jonas Gothenburg Sweden. .
Oh man that Snare is magic
I really like the comparison reactions (i just subscribed because of them). At some point you might want to tackle All Along the Watchtower by Dylan and Hendrix... Dylan liked the Hendrix version so much he's played it that way ever since.
The Clash has this hands down
that's the thing with the Clash: they made all their cover songs into new songs based on the originial rather than trying to make the same tune. they made many cover songs, including this, Revolution Rock, Brand New Cadillac, I fought the law, etc - and everytime they did not destroy the original but made a totally new song!
There are a few really good Reggae artists with hiiiigh voices. The Congos, whos best known lp was also produced by Lee Perry and Flick Wilson to name two.
Also the guy in The Stylistics singing lead in their 'You Make Me Feel Brand New' comes to my mind now. I'd believed for a looong time that was a woman 😅 They're not a Reggae group, though 🙂
@@mightyV444 I'll have to go listen to that.
We were thoroughly impressed with Simply Red's version. But that wasn't falsetto, was it?
@@hanierfamily - I'm listening to that one right now, for the first time; Wow! Old Hucknall's doing an amazing job there! 🤩👍 I think he does tip into falsetto for the really high notes, but not for the rest of it, and THAT'S truly remarkable! 👏😃
@@hanierfamily I didn't realise they did a version. I wasn't so impressed with their singer, the big ginger. Having said that the band themselves are good musicians.
They covered Gregory Isaacs' "Night Nurse" and that was that.
I thought the religious bit may have been more sincere and come over stronger in original, maybe that’s why he didn’t like cover. I like both versions a lot though
Got the 12" single by Junior Murvin the original and my favourite . I do like the Clashes version .
I've got the 12" and it's fantastic. It gets a lot of play.
@@SPKdesign1 👍
I love watching you both especially when listening to the Punk stuff as this is the music of my youth - However regarding The Clash, I can't believe you haven't reviewed their finest moment 'Complete Control' the song is literally the Bohemian Rhapsody of Punk - I first heard it as a 13 year old in 1977 - I'm 60 this year and it's still for me the greatest record ever - such power, such melody it has everything - please do a review
Judging only on attire in the videos it seems Murvin identifies more with the police while The Clash look like the thieves. I heard The Clash first so it's my fave. Same with all their covers.
I have a suggestion for " Who did it best " Thin Lizzy and Space Elevator performing, Don't believe a word. This would be a great comparison, firstly because Space Elevator has a female singer ( who slays this cover ) and it's very different
Let's do
" Take Me To The River "
Reverend Al's in '74
Foghat '76
Bryan Ferry '78
Levon Helms '78
And of course Talking Heads '78!!
Byrne wrote , " Coincidence or Conspiracy? 4 versions out at the same time? More $ for Mr. Green's church "! 😂
I love the version by RATTUS, band from Finland
They also have a great version of WHOLA LOTTA ROSIE. Finland punk is the best. Croatiaaa says hallo
I like the clash, but there is no beating junior murvin on this one, just listen to that groove, real nice 🏴✌️
Toughest choice so far for me, I probably have to give it to The Clash, much as I love Junior Murvin.
Mick Jones trying his best to channel Junior's falsetto in the backing vocals! It's just a touch out, which is pretty endearing to me
And speaking of DOA and 'You Spin Me 'Round (Like A Record)', both my Sons were obsessed with that song a few years ago, when they were 12 and 14: The younger one with the original and his brother with the remake by Flo Rida 😄 Anyway, the only 80's song that comes to *my* mind with similar falsetto singing is 'Walking On The Chinese Wall' by Philip Bailey, and subsequently also 'Easy Lover', his duet with Phil Collins 😀
Leo Sayer?
@@SPKdesign1 - Oh yes, true! My older Son had repeatedly mentioned him a while ago, too! Must be his Granddad's influence 😄
Speaking of DOA, although it's a different DOA, this one backed Jello Biafro for a short while. Look up D.O.A. War On 45 and two particular tracks on there. "War" and "War In The East", both great covers.
@@SPKdesign1 - Cool, and thank you for the tip! 😉👍 Pretty L8 here in NZ so I will check those songs later today 😀 I did hear of D.O.A. before too, though 😊 Jello Biafra was in the Dead Kennedys, wasn't he? I love their cover of 'Take This Job And Shove It' 😄👍
@@mightyV444 That's right, a great band.
Ok heres another comparison suggestion for you, substitute by the who and the cover by the sex pistols!
Paul's Bass with Topper's snare and kick drum and Joe Strummers VOCAL DELIVERY IS PUNCHY AND GIVING IT TO YA
BLOODY WICKED
R.I.P JOE STRUMMER
😢
It's Terry Chimes on drums.
@@timarmstrong3251 ah the toff
The best is the OG version by singerJunior Murvin and legendary producer Lee "Scratch" Perry but im kinda biased here 😁. I do like the cover to
Scratch was appalled by The Clash's version indeed, but he was very detailed and controlling in his productions so something taking his work and editing it must have struck him wrong. He made some legendary tracks though. One i really like is another production by him, Lord Creator - Such Is Life. Would love to add that one to the list.
Lord Creator is actually the original artists of Kingston Town, later covered and made famous by UB40. Could also be a comparison, although you would be comparing the same genre.
Kia ora hello Hanier Whanau how are you guys doing?
Both of these versions are pure gold in my opinion. And Junior's opinion of the Clashs version is surprising and unfounded but it's his song.
BUT I THINK HE'S WRONG!!!
And Chris i hope you are getting used to always being right
Now you know the rules according TO ME THE ARIES WITH THE QUADRUPLE A RATING
ARROGANT AUCKLAND ARIE'S AHOLE WE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT 👍👍👍
ua-cam.com/video/xq4TFC9ELFo/v-deo.html
This will enlighten you or maybe I'm just assuming too much and it's old news for Yas
Try Shonen Knife "Till the end of the day" (LIVE Version) vs The original Kinks version!
Yeah, for me The Clash fully fleshed this out. I can't imagine why Junior Murvin would have said that, but out of context, and not knowing the timing of the comment, who knows. The Clash had a healthy respect for reggae music as exhibited by their own composition from this album "White Man in Hammersmith Palais" and their frequent forays into dub. Almost never go with the cover, but here I would.
My vote is for the first bloke. Nothing against The Clash. I had a great time dancing to ''Rock The Casbah'' one night in '83.
Cheers,
Hayley
Junior Murvin every time.
Junior Marvin’s version is a classic. I like the Clash, but theirs is not as good.
I do not agree with that one is done better musically speaking. Perry made his production in the 1970's with outdated equipment even for the standards back in those days but accomplished to get everything out of it. If you listen to a good quality version of the Junior Murvin song, you will find that its actually been produced very well, with a lot of detail in the song, something thats really missing in the YT version you played.
I do get why you guys liked The Clash version better, its a very nice song, and maybe has a little more going as a whole. The Junior Murvin song is really rocking though if you are into Dub like i am😉
Need to listen to some X-ray spex
We have and we really like them
Clash hammers home the message , they do it really well
the clash
In the uk we have great gun control…. We don’t have them,,, not even the police.
I'd voted for this because I've never heard the Junior Murvin version before, despite having known The Clash's for 37 years; I reckon they are *both* cool 🤩 Comparing The Clash's 'I Fought The Law' with the original by The Bobby Buller Four would've also been interesting 😊 *Edit:* Oh DUH! I just realised I *did* hear the original before! But it was only a very short bit from the 1st verse, in the background of something I was watching not long ago, and I remember thinking something like, "Ugh...some chick's ripping off The Clash! 😏" 😂
The Clash did a few covers. This, "Armagideon Time" and "Junco Partner" being my faves.
@@SPKdesign1 - Oh, 'Armagideon Time' is also a cover? Didn't know that, thank you! 😀👍 I'll check out 'Junco Partner' shortly; Never heard that one! 😅
@@mightyV444 The original of "Armagideon Time" was by Willie Williams. He did two different versions of it but I prefer the later one that has a 12" version.
@@SPKdesign1 - Thank you also for THAT info! I'll check it out in a moment, too! 'Junco Partner' wasn't too shabby either! 😊👍
@@mightyV444 There are a few versions of "Junco Partner" oot there but not sure who did the original. The version I first heard was by The Holy Modal Rounders.
Junior might not have liked their take on his song, but.... I bet he made more $$$ from The Clash version! Lol
The Clash win this hands down simply because Junior Murvin's voice and the general feel of the music doesn't match the lyrics
Everyone has their opinion but if the original composer doesn't like a cover version of his song then that opinion has more weight than of any objective listener's, just as if the composer liked the version then it is taken as a great compliment. To dismiss the original composer's opinion as just an opinion is belittling.
Yep! OK , Havent heard Junior Murvin for about mmmm cant say ! Never heard these tunes backto back !
Which is great way to things ! I prefer the Clash , even though they havent changed the tune that much ! Just their own take on it , and a bit reverb ! Ace !!
F-ing CLASH so damn GOOD
2 ABSOLUTE Bangers big fan of both .... more the clash but GREAT SONG.... just saying I Miss Joe so MUCH R.I.P. Brother
The Clash
The Clash by miles
I'm an ex British serviceman and used a lot of different weapons. It wouldn't bother me if I never picked up another rifle as long as I live. I'm of the opinion that the only people who need guns are Armed Services, police and farmers.
I agree with the Guns thing but even Coppers should only be armed when necessary.
@SPKdesign1 Agreed but they do need that option and specialist training. A 9mm in inexperienced hands would be very bad news
clash improve all the cover they dis
"Decent reggae song"? What the F?
Both songs are great in their own right, murvin had that laid back Jamaican reggae vibe but the clash gave it the punch in the guts that the song needed, so the clash wins it for me!
The Clash definitely do the better version. Is this the first instance of a punk band playing reggae? Probably.
Not sure but Alberto Y Los Trios Paranoias released a 4 track 7" with a track called "Snuffin' Inna Babylon" but not sure which was recorded/released first.
It's as offensive as you could be for the time and quite hilarious at the same time. The Bass player and possibly Vocalist Bob (?) Harding went onto play with the Mothmen with one of the others members that then went on to be part of Simply Red (who got a mention in one of the other comments). One of them also (I think) went on to play with The Durutti Column.
Thanks for the info, might have to search that out. Talking of punk, I would like to nominate ‘Real World’ by Buzzcocks, first track off their Love Bites album. Or anything by Buzzcocks really xx
Maybe this is where the two tribes don't like each others music that much and there are hundreds of artists that don't really like the covers people do of their songs but put up with it because it brings them back from obscurity and brings them a new audiences. I always thought the clash a hypocritical band that would jump on the latest "cause". I wonder if they ever go to Nicaragua? Or does " sting" ever go back to the Amazon. Or are they just political commentators?
I think that Junior Murvin's version is prettier but the Clash's version is truer to the meaning of the lyrics.
That's interesting as it was Murvin and Perry that wrote the original.