This motherboard looks like a time travel accident. Like, somebody tried to send a motherboard through a time machine, but the time machine malfunctioned and we got this...
@@thelasthallow Well, I have the even better ALiveDual-eSATA2, owned from new, since 2008 with the retail box packaging, documentation and everything and I should probably sell it to an enthusiast rather than cart it half way round the World.
@@jimjamz. if its the intel board its only worth about $100, the AMD board is worth north of $400 because it can take Phenom 2s which were faster than core 2 quads and are more modern.
@@thelasthallow It's the AMD board. I have a Phenom II X4 965 plugged into it and an NVIDIA GeForce 6200 AGP as we speak. Owned from new since 2008, retail boxed with all accessories, manuals, driver CDs, cables etc...
Your title is so accurate. This is from a time when there was competition in the chipset space and motherboard manufacturers were still innovative. I had one of these and it extended the life of my 9800 Pro by a year or two and with the voltage mods and OCW beta bioses, it was one of the best overclocking boards of that era. I remember hitting some crazy HTT speeds on that board.
@@MauricioRPP1 I have collected a few high-end Athlon 64 motherboards, but none of them are on any build as of now. But I have an Athlon 64 3200+ on a socket 754 motherboard running Windows 10. It's actually useable with 2GB of ram and an IDE drive. So we can assume that a socket 939 with an even faster CPU or even a dual core with 4GB dual channel memory would be even better.
I know being in the Navy sometimes limited the storage space I had, but man I wish I had saved every old computer / computer component I ever had. This channel just wonderfully knifes me in the gut about things I use to have.
I'm glad this video popped up in my feed. I'm planning an Athlon 64 for a future XP build utilizing a 750ti I've had sitting around for the last 5 years.
buyed this board in 2006 cause its was the only board with dual slot pciex and agp i was looking for a board capable of both cause i was upgrading and my graphic card was a 9800 pro agp 128mb but all new board came with only a pciex slot, i later upgraded for a x1600 pro 512mb pciex but i consider this board as one of the best i ever had but after 6 years the capacitor were broke so i just upgraded it for a new board upgrading from a athlon 64 to a phenom II x4 and im always using it today my board date since 2012 i also upgraded my graphic card to a hd5770 and now to a rx570 and even today i run graphic at very high with my old phenom II !! its sure i upgraded the ddr3 ram ssd and newer 4tb hdd & power supply remaining to upgraded for a new board + cpu and ddr4 ram and i will be able to continue for the next 5-6 years !
The ASROCK 939DUAL-SATAII, and my ASROCK 880GM-LE FX were some of my best boards. I got my A64 up to 2.8 Ghz and it could have gone faster but I had to lower the memory divider too much so I ran it at 2.6Ghz. I had a Phenom II x4 running at 3.9Ghz on the 880GM-LE FX. This is on stock voltage, with stock heatsinks, and with cool n quiet enabled. They were very stable and I never had issues with them.
This mobo was amazing. I was lucky enough to get the AM2 daughter board off of eBay which allowed me to install an FX62 CPU and 8 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM. It was pretty fast and it was the most stable PC build I had at the time.
I just realized that I had the AGP versions of both the Sapphire ATi Radeon X850 Pro with 256MB VRAM, and the ATi Radeon X1950 Pro with 512MB of VRAM. The X850 Pro was modified and overclocked the same day my roommate got it, the X1950 Pro was a factory overclocked HIS IceQ 3 Turbo card. All of my ATi cards from the heavily modified and overclocked Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB VRAM, to that HIS card, they all served me very well. My first PCI-E video card was a Sapphire Radeon HD-7770 with 1GB of VRAM. My last AMD card was an R9 290 with 4GB of VRAM, then to a Nvidia GTX 1070 with 8GB of VRAM and currently a Nvidia RTX 2080 Super with its 8GB of RAM. Have to say, computers were more fun early 2000-early 2010s.
Good board. I have one of those DFi Lan-Party NF4 boards still running, and used the AsRock 4Core-Dual SATA-II back in the day. Very similar, except with full 8x AGP but only an x4 PCIe electrical (x16 physical). Had the advantage of more SATA-II ports and Core2Quad support. Core2Quad + HD3850 is I believe the best AGP system you can build.
Yes, it's best AGP combo, you can get. Not sure , if DDR3 are supported too, or only DDR2. Anyway, it's overkill for that graphic card, overclocked Q9650 can handle even 1050ti, before it starts to bottleneck graphic card in games significaly.
Maan i cant believe how underrated this is i looked 3 months ago this video and i look it again sooo underrated i hope you get better and make the videos
Funny thing about this asrock board . You can do sli with a agp and pci-e with a nvidia gpu . We had test it with the nvidia 8600 you had on agp and pci-e .
I´ve owned one back in 2004/5. Overclocking was impressive with my Opteron 146 running @ 3 GHz with stock voltage. It had some compatibility issue running 1T command rate that I didn´t have with another 939 motherboard that I owned, the nForce4 Ultra based Epox 9NPA+ (great mobo). But overall impressive overclocking capability, I could use any card (I did not get to use a PCIe one back then) and it was CHEAP.
@@julp.1167 I just looked up my Newegg order history. I bought this board on August, 3rd 2006 with an Athlon 64 X2 4200+.A few years ago I got a 4400+ from a friend so I now want to rebuild this system. I've begun my hunt for one of these boards.
@@julp.1167 I foolishly replaced it with a DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert 939 motherboard on January 24th 2007. I can't remember what I was thinking back then. I was a DFI fanboy for sure, though.
OMG I happen upon your channel and this video. And I have one of those boards in the box in storage. It was the last 939 board I owned for a brief time before I went to AM3. I skipped AM2 all together. Great content!
I have one of these motherboards with an amd athlon 64 x2 4400-cpu in it. Just bought a geforce 6800 ( agp ) for about 20$, will be interesting to see how it performs.
This board was very stable compared to my other amd boards at the time, and it was super cheap. The thing is, you said that it was a good oc:er but for real oc prowess you had to do a simple hw modification, just solder on a resistor and this board would fly.
Loved the video and subscribing right now, this has bought back nostalgic memories. My first proper gaming pc were a socket 939 clawhammer with two BFG 7600gt's in sli on an asus a8n sli. It were a massive step from my pentium 3 and socket my 2ghz 754 cpu with a lonely ati 9250. It took me from 450mhz age of empires 2 playing threshold to loading every game at the time. Might build an win xp machine based on 939 era stuff now.
just realized I had one of these hidden away from a box of old parts I got randomly years ago, recently decided I wanted to build a XP era computer.... I had no idea the monster I had hidden away
I had one of these, really stable and great for overclocking. It was my first proper gaming PC had an Athlon 64 3500, a nVidia 6800xt and 2 GB of RAM in a chieftec case. I got a 4000+ and managed to run it at 2.7 GHz as a daily OC. That was with a cheap cooler and when I was 14 years old too. I always wanted the CPU upgrade slot but could never find it, it probably would have cost what I paid for the whole system though anyway.
I'm really curious what the difference between this board and the VSTA version is besides the official support for Windows Vista. I was searching for this board when I got misled by a title and bought what turned out to be the 939Dual-VSTA. I wrote down somewhere that this board has limited supported (AGPx8 vs AGPx4 & x8). It's hard to find specifics on this and Id love to learn more about it.
I had the 775Dual-VSTA, AsRock's version that did AGP and PCIe but couldn't do the Core 2 Quad. I used it for a few years, until I finally went to quad core.
Nice! I have this exact board with the AM2CPU upgrade and an x2 6200+ running in it with a beta BIOS that adds support for it. Another board to look into would be the ALiveDual-eSATA2, which has an AM2+ socket that supports all the way up to a Phenom II x4 965, but still has FULL AGP 8x and PCI-E 16x support. It's interesting to test old AGP cards like the 9800 Pro with a somewhat modern quad core cpu so see how they perform with no cpu bottlenecks whatsoever.
I own one of these as well, it was actually in my very first self build self bought computer, and it was my first try at bang for buck! I stocked it with an AMD Dualcore Opteron 165 (1.8GHz stock), 2x2GB OCZ 400MHz CL2 DDR, AGP NVidia GeForce 680GT 128GB, 128MB Ageia PhysX PPU, SoundBlaster X-FI Extreme Music, 30GB OCZ SSD V2 and 2x 320GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM in Raid-0. It was also my first overclocking machine... It still runs at 2.4GHz, with the ram at 484MHz CL2, the GPU was able to unlock all vertex and pixel pipes and overclocked just under the speed of the 680GTX. I later went on to put a PCIe 7900GTX in it which I later put in my then new machine (C2Q q9550) and thus the 680GT went back into it. It still runs perfectly to this day and is now being used as a basic AD and File/profile server + (WiFi) Router (Windows Server 2008 R2 with an AD/DHCP/DNS and IIS + Symantec Endpoint Protection, current uptime is around 1.5yrs and that time is low only because I moved it to a different house, uptime before that was around 3.5 years)
That really is a awesome board. Agreed that it is a great board to tinker around with. I had a number of different CPUs and video cards in one over the years, but eventually settled with an Opteron 185, and a GTX 560 ti. Was a great gaming PC. Till it died a couple years ago, had the same problem of bad capacitors by the CPU slot.
I believe that North "North Bridge" have HyperTransport Tunnel It is possible to have multiple end points on HyperTransport, as long as you have tunnel in each device before the end of link As far as I know AMD never used HyperTransport tunel in their consumer grade south bridges (maybe middle bridges?, remember north bridge is inside CPU) NVidia used it in every AMD Chipset and actually PCI Express destined for graphics card had one end point
I had this board when it was current and had the add on card to upgrade cpu. Nvidia shut down SLI capability real quick with updated drivers when they purchased ULI
the capacitor just below the ram slots looks like it's about to go out too(I think OST brand)... I'd replace all of the ones of that same value or even brand:P....
Which are the other motherboards that use this full AGP & PCIe combo? This is why i LOVE older tech , new tech is BORING at best This was/is the board if people want to run stock configs mostly without any major crazy overclocking It simply has Everything, best of both worlds: AGP or PCIe IDE or SATA FX 55 single core or FX 60 if you want 2 cores 939 or 940 AM2 DDR1 or DDR2 Great for Win XP or older ..just imagine if instead AM2 add on board expansion, you could put Intel one :) & the best part it was dirt cheap for what it delivered
There is also the ASRock 939Dual-VSTA, wich is pretty similar to the shown 939Dual-SATA2 The ASRock ALiveDual-eSATA2 And the MSI 649 Neo-V And one rather rare thing the ECS P88 Extreme Hybrid, which is one of the creaziest boards ever designed. Not sure if it was ever actually sold. And then ofcourse the 4CoreDual-VSTa and 775Dual-VSTA for the Intel LGA775 Platform, but they offer only PCIe x4 On the other hand, they have DDR and DDR2 slots. If it is more about some obscure boards without that much choice. The Asus P5S800 got LGA775 with DDR and AGP.
New tech is boring because Dennard scaling started dying in 2003 and was stone dead by 2006. It used to be that a full node would give you twice the transistors (it doesn't quite do that today) and using them wisely you would get up to square root of 2 performance increase through IPC out of having them (out of order execution, caches, superscalar, register renaming, SSE etc), not only that, they would also run at about twice the clock speed at a lower voltage, cancelling out to give about the same power density as before. Scaling was actually a bit more aggressive, opting to use a higher than necessary voltage to race towards 1 GHz a bit faster and running power up to a bit above 100 W for a CPU, where it still sits to day. If Dennard scaling had continued and the problems of subtreshhold leakage etc. that broke it down somehow been avoided, then you would be on a 500 GHz pentium 5 or 6 by now. There was only about 5 years between the pentium MMX 233 and the athlon 64.
"The Asus P5S800 got LGA775 with DDR and AGP." ...and a shitty SiS chipset. No thanks. I'll stick with my ASRock 775i65G R2.0/R3.0 or ConRoe865PE. Those support Core 2 Duos and Quads (S775 obviously) on the intel i865G (775i65G) or i865PE (ConRoe865PE) chipset, also with AGP/DDR. If you want even more oddball, ASRock made the P4i945GC board for S478 with the "modern" (by 478 standards) i945GC, which supports the only *two* S478 Pentium 4 models that had EM64T, a.k.a. 64 bit support
You really shouldn't put bare PCBs on carpet like that, you might damage some of the more sensitive components. There's probably a way to patch the BIOS to allow for AM2+, since it's the same physical socket
I have this board still, from a build back in 06, but unfortunately I’ve popped some caps and it just doesn’t make sense to repair it at this point. Which is a bummer, as it’s the first computer which I overclocked and it performed great.
There are a bunch of bulging OST-Caps near the Sata II Port. This could also explain the speedproblem and sooner or later, all OST-Caps on the board must be replaced. Otherwise: Great video and thumbs up, that you keep this motherboard alive.
I loved my DFI LP NF4 Expert, it was a beast at OC. I would try this mobo too if i can. Still got cpu etc. . My 3800+ x2 did on air 2950 MHz. It was 24/7 stable.
Dude its so hard to find a solid s939 board these days with AGP. If the A8V died on my 4600+ & 6800GT build went up I'd be out probably ~$100 for a replacement board
Thank you so much for making all of these great informational videos I really enjoy your work and I look forward to more however I do have a request I am working on a project and I'm not very good with a lot of these things to be honest so I would Like to hear what you have to say this is my idea for a long time I've always wanted a good gaming laptop with the power of a desktop my life is not very stable and I always by myself moving from place to place so in light of this I decided to start on his project I want to know what motherboard CPU and Graphics configuration would be best to build into a laptop I'm planning on making the case out of A couple of older computer cases that I have the main issue is I don't know what motherboard I can pick that will be small enough to fit my two graphics cards of choice which will be full GTX 1080 cards I find it ridiculous to have to pay the stupid prices for a powerful Mobile gaming solution which can't even match it's actually desktop counterparts so I am going to build my own nothing too crazy just using parts that already exist and stapling them all together musically without too much actual modification In other words I'm not building a special monitor I'm just taking a normal Monitor and then going to put hinges on it so that you can open and close over the case that I build along with a normal keyboard and a standalone USB touchpad that I'm going building to build into it So I want to know what is the smallest most capable motherboard out there that you think would be suitable for this kind of project And what kind of setup should I run the goal is to surpassed that $9,000 Gaming computer that can't even match up to its desktop counterpart So in light of this instead of going out and blowing a bunch of money I'm going to build one Would like your Ideas
I had a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, even though it was an AGP motherboard, it was still awesome. Great overclocker etc., and I never had a PCI-E S939 system. :D
asrock was a board known for oddball boards that do the budget upgrade thing the upgrade cpu cards were a great budget friendly way to update the system i have this exact board and had it from new its one of the rare 939 boards that actually lasted i got my cpu upgrade card on ebay a few years ago and run an athlon 64x2 3400 no overclock the cpu was a scrap bin find from a dead hp lol and a loud as hell tiesol cooler it runs like a champ even under windows 10 surprisingly with an 8800gt pci expres gpu (built the system with a 6800 series agp) loved asrock for their oddball boards another board manufacturer who did the same was ECS eleat group but they never did the future cpu doughter cards
I see Ebay has them but all European sellers. I worry it will get damaged in transit. Just want to do a fun nostalgia build from my childhood while having options. Looking for either this board or the 4coreDual-vsta for a quad core but still Euro sellers.
The sata 2 port and the associated drivers were just not great. The drivers that came with the board performed poorly and sometimes didn't work properly. However there was a driver from JMicron later for Windows Vista that could be made to work under Windows XP. That fixed the issues for me.
Nice build and video! I have this board and the AM2CPU laying waiting for a build. What kind of cooler do you use? Have you tried installing Windows 98 on it?
RetroCompaqGuy Thanks! The cooler is a Scythe Zipang. I only recently discovered the drivers are 98 compatible, so I haven't done that yet. But definitely will!
RetroCompaqGuy, when it comes to cooler and the limitations of the size that the AM2CPU gives i give one tip, AIO. AM2 is identical to AM3 on the bracket and bolt-size so an AM3 AIO liquid cooler goes right on. and a tiny singel 120mm one can be bought cheap. don't know whats the cheapest on you market but here you got Antec's and the Corsair Hydro H74 for less than 50£
If you want to look at one of the best Super Socket 7 boards ever made (it could use any socket 5 through SS7 CPU regardless of the BIOS version, and supported 1.5GB SDRAM), perhaps look at Gigabyte's GA-5AA.
An awesome motherboard indeed. I just bought an old one to build a retro machine, but it's it dead on arrival, 10 beeps CMOS read/write error. Also replaced the CMOS chip to revive it, but that didn't help. Searching the internet reveals that motherboard needs replacing ... a bummer :-|
PixelPipes, I think I found a better one - check AsRock ALiveDual-eSATA2 - same ULi chipset and same AGP + PCIe combo, but straight up has AM2 socket and supports up to Phenom II X4
We all know about the fastest PCI/AGP/PCIE graphics cards, buts whats with the worst PCIE graphics Card? Maybe the geforce 6 series? Or the geforce PCX 5300 ?
Can be this platform to be used with voodoo2 retro machine, like having PCIe card connected as main graphic adapter, and have connected voodoo2 to it as accelerator, and possible play Glide based games? Will Windows 98 find PCIe card?
Hi ! could you share your settings ? and also which driver you use ? ... my HD 2600 XT is really slow on this board ... :/ not sure why ... Maybe i should check with another card ? Thx for every hint ! Also changed 2 caps on the same position !
pleaaaaase look into comparing the 939 vs am2 on this board. its such a unique idea. ive also seen the dual cpu socket boards they did that look crazy.
Just fired up my A8N32-SLI with 4400+ (cool running E6 stepping) & ECC a month ago. Still as good as ever, but Win-10 has way too many things going on in background (I'm sure they're all important). I don't want to spend all day tweaking Linux, so for now it's sitting in the box.
I have this board and love it. However for some reason I'm having issues with the PCIe slot . Iv tried several cards and they all show glitched out visuals. However the agp slot works perfectly fine. Any ideas how to fix?
Something is wrong with the audio of your voice. It is too low compared to the music and has a strange tone like if it had some kind of echo. Great video about the fury maxx BTW.
Love your videos. Even convinced me to buy one of these boards. Just not a good idea to put computer parts on the carpet. Bad experiences with static...
This motherboard looks like a time travel accident. Like, somebody tried to send a motherboard through a time machine, but the time machine malfunctioned and we got this...
This board was the board that put asrock on the map
It did everything, but wasnt price gouging unlike the other brands at the time
and now this board can hardly ever be found, the one i found the seller wanted i think $600? and it was from china soo.
@@thelasthallow Well, I have the even better ALiveDual-eSATA2, owned from new, since 2008 with the retail box packaging, documentation and everything and I should probably sell it to an enthusiast rather than cart it half way round the World.
@@jimjamz. if its the intel board its only worth about $100, the AMD board is worth north of $400 because it can take Phenom 2s which were faster than core 2 quads and are more modern.
@@thelasthallow It's the AMD board. I have a Phenom II X4 965 plugged into it and an NVIDIA GeForce 6200 AGP as we speak. Owned from new since 2008, retail boxed with all accessories, manuals, driver CDs, cables etc...
Your title is so accurate. This is from a time when there was competition in the chipset space and motherboard manufacturers were still innovative.
I had one of these and it extended the life of my 9800 Pro by a year or two and with the voltage mods and OCW beta bioses, it was one of the best overclocking boards of that era. I remember hitting some crazy HTT speeds on that board.
I have one, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
I recently bought one of them, it came today.
How is 939 in 2019??
I'll do you one better: How is 939 in 2021?
@@MauricioRPP1 I have collected a few high-end Athlon 64 motherboards, but none of them are on any build as of now. But I have an Athlon 64 3200+ on a socket 754 motherboard running Windows 10. It's actually useable with 2GB of ram and an IDE drive. So we can assume that a socket 939 with an even faster CPU or even a dual core with 4GB dual channel memory would be even better.
@5:39 the bottom left capacitor near sata port needs replacement
Dat bulge
I know being in the Navy sometimes limited the storage space I had, but man I wish I had saved every old computer / computer component I ever had. This channel just wonderfully knifes me in the gut about things I use to have.
same here😩
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
@@julp.1167 Still have it? Want to sell it? :)
Man I always loved the DFI LAN Party boards...
I'm glad this video popped up in my feed. I'm planning an Athlon 64 for a future XP build utilizing a 750ti I've had sitting around for the last 5 years.
buyed this board in 2006 cause its was the only board with dual slot pciex and agp i was looking for a board capable of both cause i was upgrading and my graphic card was a 9800 pro agp 128mb but all new board came with only a pciex slot, i later upgraded for a x1600 pro 512mb pciex but i consider this board as one of the best i ever had but after 6 years the capacitor were broke so i just upgraded it for a new board upgrading from a athlon 64 to a phenom II x4 and im always using it today my board date since 2012 i also upgraded my graphic card to a hd5770 and now to a rx570 and even today i run graphic at very high with my old phenom II !! its sure i upgraded the ddr3 ram ssd and newer 4tb hdd & power supply remaining to upgraded for a new board + cpu and ddr4 ram and i will be able to continue for the next 5-6 years !
The ASROCK 939DUAL-SATAII, and my ASROCK 880GM-LE FX were some of my best boards. I got my A64 up to 2.8 Ghz and it could have gone faster but I had to lower the memory divider too much so I ran it at 2.6Ghz. I had a Phenom II x4 running at 3.9Ghz on the 880GM-LE FX. This is on stock voltage, with stock heatsinks, and with cool n quiet enabled. They were very stable and I never had issues with them.
Had one of these with a A64X2 3800+. I used the AGP with a GeForce 6600, later upgraded to a PCI-e Radeon X1900GT!
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
I've just discovered your channel! Amazing content!
I've just discovered your channel! Amazing content! (3 years later).
ASRock was pulling off some really cool boards from the get go, even though people were sceptical towards them.
This mobo was amazing. I was lucky enough to get the AM2 daughter board off of eBay which allowed me to install an FX62 CPU and 8 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM. It was pretty fast and it was the most stable PC build I had at the time.
Do you know where to get one now? I have 2 of this mobo and would love to have the daughter board. I would buy it from you!
@@p4stagg448 Unfortunately the system died due to old age. Try eBay, it worked for me.
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
I just realized that I had the AGP versions of both the Sapphire ATi Radeon X850 Pro with 256MB VRAM, and the ATi Radeon X1950 Pro with 512MB of VRAM. The X850 Pro was modified and overclocked the same day my roommate got it, the X1950 Pro was a factory overclocked HIS IceQ 3 Turbo card. All of my ATi cards from the heavily modified and overclocked Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB VRAM, to that HIS card, they all served me very well. My first PCI-E video card was a Sapphire Radeon HD-7770 with 1GB of VRAM. My last AMD card was an R9 290 with 4GB of VRAM, then to a Nvidia GTX 1070 with 8GB of VRAM and currently a Nvidia RTX 2080 Super with its 8GB of RAM. Have to say, computers were more fun early 2000-early 2010s.
Good board. I have one of those DFi Lan-Party NF4 boards still running, and used the AsRock 4Core-Dual SATA-II back in the day. Very similar, except with full 8x AGP but only an x4 PCIe electrical (x16 physical). Had the advantage of more SATA-II ports and Core2Quad support.
Core2Quad + HD3850 is I believe the best AGP system you can build.
Yes, it's best AGP combo, you can get. Not sure , if DDR3 are supported too, or only DDR2. Anyway, it's overkill for that graphic card, overclocked Q9650 can handle even 1050ti, before it starts to bottleneck graphic card in games significaly.
Maan i cant believe how underrated this is i looked 3 months ago this video and i look it again sooo underrated i hope you get better and make the videos
Abit IC7-max3 and the DFI Lanparty Pro875B were my favourite old motherboards.
I had a setup with this motherboard. It was actually really nice
I had this exact board for a while. It was amazing.
Funny thing about this asrock board .
You can do sli with a agp and pci-e with a nvidia gpu .
We had test it with the nvidia 8600 you had on agp and pci-e .
Or you could keep the agp mobo and use the ati cards which were released on agp until the 4xxx series.
The PC I had for the longest of time was using GA-MA770-UD3 Rev 2.0 I ended up using that PC for almost 8 years...
Really great context, but I found the background music a tad too loud
I´ve owned one back in 2004/5. Overclocking was impressive with my Opteron 146 running @ 3 GHz with stock voltage. It had some compatibility issue running 1T command rate that I didn´t have with another 939 motherboard that I owned, the nForce4 Ultra based Epox 9NPA+ (great mobo). But overall impressive overclocking capability, I could use any card (I did not get to use a PCIe one back then) and it was CHEAP.
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
I owned this board back in the days and it was awesome. Nice video.
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
For retro gaming I would go for Asus A8V because it is a socket 939 motherboard that has win98 drivers even for sata.
I would kill for one of these mobos.
Great video
I owned this Asrock board and regret giving it away. It was one of the best I've ever bought.
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
@@julp.1167 I just looked up my Newegg order history. I bought this board on August, 3rd 2006 with an Athlon 64 X2 4200+.A few years ago I got a 4400+ from a friend so I now want to rebuild this system. I've begun my hunt for one of these boards.
@@julp.1167 I foolishly replaced it with a DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert 939 motherboard on January 24th 2007. I can't remember what I was thinking back then. I was a DFI fanboy for sure, though.
I had one new, still have it!
Brilliant video. Keep them coming!
OMG I happen upon your channel and this video. And I have one of those boards in the box in storage. It was the last 939 board I owned for a brief time before I went to AM3. I skipped AM2 all together. Great content!
I have one of these motherboards with an amd athlon 64 x2 4400-cpu in it. Just bought a geforce 6800 ( agp ) for about 20$, will be interesting to see how it performs.
This board was very stable compared to my other amd boards at the time, and it was super cheap. The thing is, you said that it was a good oc:er but for real oc prowess you had to do a simple hw modification, just solder on a resistor and this board would fly.
Loved the video and subscribing right now, this has bought back nostalgic memories.
My first proper gaming pc were a socket 939 clawhammer with two BFG 7600gt's in sli on an asus a8n sli. It were a massive step from my pentium 3 and socket my 2ghz 754 cpu with a lonely ati 9250. It took me from 450mhz age of empires 2 playing threshold to loading every game at the time.
Might build an win xp machine based on 939 era stuff now.
How the heck have you only got 1.5k sub, that figure should be multiplied by a few hundred. Keep up the good work.
Wish motherboards these days had this compatibility
just realized I had one of these hidden away from a box of old parts I got randomly years ago, recently decided I wanted to build a XP era computer.... I had no idea the monster I had hidden away
I had one of these, really stable and great for overclocking. It was my first proper gaming PC had an Athlon 64 3500, a nVidia 6800xt and 2 GB of RAM in a chieftec case. I got a 4000+ and managed to run it at 2.7 GHz as a daily OC. That was with a cheap cooler and when I was 14 years old too. I always wanted the CPU upgrade slot but could never find it, it probably would have cost what I paid for the whole system though anyway.
i built and sold computers during that time. it was awesome
Even an Atom is snappy under windows XP :)
Great video man makes me happy to know other people enjoy older pc components I have had people Crack on me over it but I don't care
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
I'm really curious what the difference between this board and the VSTA version is besides the official support for Windows Vista. I was searching for this board when I got misled by a title and bought what turned out to be the 939Dual-VSTA. I wrote down somewhere that this board has limited supported (AGPx8 vs AGPx4 & x8). It's hard to find specifics on this and Id love to learn more about it.
Im so sad i had an asrock board with agp and pci express with core 2 quad support... My buddy spilled beer on it :(
Aww man! ......Such a terrible waste of beer!
I had the 775Dual-VSTA, AsRock's version that did AGP and PCIe but couldn't do the Core 2 Quad. I used it for a few years, until I finally went to quad core.
Nice! I have this exact board with the AM2CPU upgrade and an x2 6200+ running in it with a beta BIOS that adds support for it. Another board to look into would be the ALiveDual-eSATA2, which has an AM2+ socket that supports all the way up to a Phenom II x4 965, but still has FULL AGP 8x and PCI-E 16x support. It's interesting to test old AGP cards like the 9800 Pro with a somewhat modern quad core cpu so see how they perform with no cpu bottlenecks whatsoever.
Man, I would LOVE to have that board. I've had it in my saved searches for ages now. They never show up on eBay.
It was a very hard find for me. Took ages of searching online to finally get my hands on one.
Does it work with Vista or later OS (I own AM2NF3-VSTA) ?
Indeed it does ;)
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I own one of these as well, it was actually in my very first self build self bought computer, and it was my first try at bang for buck! I stocked it with an AMD Dualcore Opteron 165 (1.8GHz stock), 2x2GB OCZ 400MHz CL2 DDR, AGP NVidia GeForce 680GT 128GB, 128MB Ageia PhysX PPU, SoundBlaster X-FI Extreme Music, 30GB OCZ SSD V2 and 2x 320GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM in Raid-0. It was also my first overclocking machine... It still runs at 2.4GHz, with the ram at 484MHz CL2, the GPU was able to unlock all vertex and pixel pipes and overclocked just under the speed of the 680GTX. I later went on to put a PCIe 7900GTX in it which I later put in my then new machine (C2Q q9550) and thus the 680GT went back into it. It still runs perfectly to this day and is now being used as a basic AD and File/profile server + (WiFi) Router (Windows Server 2008 R2 with an AD/DHCP/DNS and IIS + Symantec Endpoint Protection, current uptime is around 1.5yrs and that time is low only because I moved it to a different house, uptime before that was around 3.5 years)
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
5:44 Is that a scythe zipang V1? That's my all-time favourite cooler.
Indeed! Had it since it first came out
That really is a awesome board. Agreed that it is a great board to tinker around with. I had a number of different CPUs and video cards in one over the years, but eventually settled with an Opteron 185, and a GTX 560 ti. Was a great gaming PC. Till it died a couple years ago, had the same problem of bad capacitors by the CPU slot.
It's definitely worth salvaging!
I believe that North "North Bridge" have HyperTransport Tunnel
It is possible to have multiple end points on HyperTransport, as long as you have tunnel in each device before the end of link
As far as I know AMD never used HyperTransport tunel in their consumer grade south bridges (maybe middle bridges?, remember north bridge is inside CPU)
NVidia used it in every AMD Chipset and actually PCI Express destined for graphics card had one end point
I still have this running... Mmmmm time to play... I'll need to pull out my XP CDs or I might even install win98/95
I had this board when it was current and had the add on card to upgrade cpu. Nvidia shut down SLI capability real quick with updated drivers when they purchased ULI
the capacitor just below the ram slots looks like it's about to go out too(I think OST brand)... I'd replace all of the ones of that same value or even brand:P....
Which are the other motherboards that use this full AGP & PCIe combo?
This is why i LOVE older tech , new tech is BORING at best
This was/is the board if people want to run stock configs mostly without any major crazy overclocking
It simply has Everything, best of both worlds:
AGP or PCIe
IDE or SATA
FX 55 single core or FX 60 if you want 2 cores
939 or 940 AM2
DDR1 or DDR2
Great for Win XP or older
..just imagine if instead AM2 add on board expansion, you could put Intel one :)
& the best part it was dirt cheap for what it delivered
4Coredual VSTA quad core ddr2 support.
There is also the ASRock 939Dual-VSTA, wich is pretty similar to the shown 939Dual-SATA2
The ASRock ALiveDual-eSATA2
And the MSI 649 Neo-V
And one rather rare thing the ECS P88 Extreme Hybrid, which is one of the creaziest boards ever designed. Not sure if it was ever actually sold.
And then ofcourse the 4CoreDual-VSTa and 775Dual-VSTA for the Intel LGA775 Platform, but they offer only PCIe x4 On the other hand, they have DDR and DDR2 slots.
If it is more about some obscure boards without that much choice. The Asus P5S800 got LGA775 with DDR and AGP.
Actually I'm using this board and it's been such a struggle to get working with so many variations of parts.
New tech is boring because Dennard scaling started dying in 2003 and was stone dead by 2006.
It used to be that a full node would give you twice the transistors (it doesn't quite do that today) and using them wisely you would get up to square root of 2 performance increase through IPC out of having them (out of order execution, caches, superscalar, register renaming, SSE etc), not only that, they would also run at about twice the clock speed at a lower voltage, cancelling out to give about the same power density as before. Scaling was actually a bit more aggressive, opting to use a higher than necessary voltage to race towards 1 GHz a bit faster and running power up to a bit above 100 W for a CPU, where it still sits to day.
If Dennard scaling had continued and the problems of subtreshhold leakage etc. that broke it down somehow been avoided, then you would be on a 500 GHz pentium 5 or 6 by now. There was only about 5 years between the pentium MMX 233 and the athlon 64.
"The Asus P5S800 got LGA775 with DDR and AGP." ...and a shitty SiS chipset. No thanks. I'll stick with my ASRock 775i65G R2.0/R3.0 or ConRoe865PE. Those support Core 2 Duos and Quads (S775 obviously) on the intel i865G (775i65G) or i865PE (ConRoe865PE) chipset, also with AGP/DDR.
If you want even more oddball, ASRock made the P4i945GC board for S478 with the "modern" (by 478 standards) i945GC, which supports the only *two* S478 Pentium 4 models that had EM64T, a.k.a. 64 bit support
superb video
You really shouldn't put bare PCBs on carpet like that, you might damage some of the more sensitive components.
There's probably a way to patch the BIOS to allow for AM2+, since it's the same physical socket
I have this board still, from a build back in 06, but unfortunately I’ve popped some caps and it just doesn’t make sense to repair it at this point. Which is a bummer, as it’s the first computer which I overclocked and it performed great.
Probably wouldn't be too expensive to repair. A handful of decent caps shouldn't cost over a buck or two apiece.
There are a bunch of bulging OST-Caps near the Sata II Port. This could also explain the speedproblem and sooner or later, all OST-Caps on the board must be replaced.
Otherwise: Great video and thumbs up, that you keep this motherboard alive.
Is OST the brand name or what does it stand for?
I have the VIA 775 one with a q6600 and it is the most unstable pos I have ever owned.
I loved my DFI LP NF4 Expert, it was a beast at OC. I would try this mobo too if i can. Still got cpu etc. . My 3800+ x2 did on air 2950 MHz. It was 24/7 stable.
Dude its so hard to find a solid s939 board these days with AGP. If the A8V died on my 4600+ & 6800GT build went up I'd be out probably ~$100 for a replacement board
I have that Asrock 939Dual-SATA2 Board. But sadly not Working.. like the most Boards from this area.
i had this board, vmodded and set a world record sempron 939 record on it
Oh nice!
Thank you so much for making all of these great informational videos I really enjoy your work and I look forward to more however I do have a request I am working on a project and I'm not very good with a lot of these things to be honest so I would Like to hear what you have to say this is my idea for a long time I've always wanted a good gaming laptop with the power of a desktop my life is not very stable and I always by myself moving from place to place so in light of this I decided to start on his project I want to know what motherboard CPU and Graphics configuration would be best to build into a laptop I'm planning on making the case out of A couple of older computer cases that I have the main issue is I don't know what motherboard I can pick that will be small enough to fit my two graphics cards of choice which will be full GTX 1080 cards I find it ridiculous to have to pay the stupid prices for a powerful Mobile gaming solution which can't even match it's actually desktop counterparts so I am going to build my own nothing too crazy just using parts that already exist and stapling them all together musically without too much actual modification In other words I'm not building a special monitor I'm just taking a normal Monitor and then going to put hinges on it so that you can open and close over the case that I build along with a normal keyboard and a standalone USB touchpad that I'm going building to build into it So I want to know what is the smallest most capable motherboard out there that you think would be suitable for this kind of project And what kind of setup should I run the goal is to surpassed that $9,000 Gaming computer that can't even match up to its desktop counterpart So in light of this instead of going out and blowing a bunch of money I'm going to build one Would like your Ideas
There are some capacitors needing a replacement at 4:04
I had a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, even though it was an AGP motherboard, it was still awesome. Great overclocker etc., and I never had a PCI-E S939 system. :D
The title: MAYBE the best athlon 64 motherboard
Reality: THE BEST MOTHERBOARD
I am looking for one of those CPU cards and having trouble finding one
im surprised that thing can overclock so well given that there's two north bridges.
asrock was a board known for oddball boards that do the budget upgrade thing the upgrade cpu cards were a great budget friendly way to update the system i have this exact board and had it from new its one of the rare 939 boards that actually lasted i got my cpu upgrade card on ebay a few years ago and run an athlon 64x2 3400 no overclock the cpu was a scrap bin find from a dead hp lol and a loud as hell tiesol cooler it runs like a champ even under windows 10 surprisingly with an 8800gt pci expres gpu (built the system with a 6800 series agp) loved asrock for their oddball boards another board manufacturer who did the same was ECS eleat group but they never did the future cpu doughter cards
I have been looking for one of these for a long time! Where did you find it or have you owned one for a long time?
It's been a couple years now. Got it from a French seller on eBay
I see Ebay has them but all European sellers. I worry it will get damaged in transit. Just want to do a fun nostalgia build from my childhood while having options. Looking for either this board or the 4coreDual-vsta for a quad core but still Euro sellers.
Best in terms of expansion slots. Performance? Doubt it. But it´s a very exotic solution and very nice board.
This is absolutely lovely.
I may actually enter not so retro
The sata 2 port and the associated drivers were just not great. The drivers that came with the board performed poorly and sometimes didn't work properly. However there was a driver from JMicron later for Windows Vista that could be made to work under Windows XP. That fixed the issues for me.
Nice build and video! I have this board and the AM2CPU laying waiting for a build. What kind of cooler do you use? Have you tried installing Windows 98 on it?
RetroCompaqGuy Thanks! The cooler is a Scythe Zipang. I only recently discovered the drivers are 98 compatible, so I haven't done that yet. But definitely will!
RetroCompaqGuy, when it comes to cooler and the limitations of the size that the AM2CPU gives i give one tip, AIO.
AM2 is identical to AM3 on the bracket and bolt-size so an AM3 AIO liquid cooler goes right on.
and a tiny singel 120mm one can be bought cheap.
don't know whats the cheapest on you market but here you got Antec's and the Corsair Hydro H74 for less than 50£
If you want to look at one of the best Super Socket 7 boards ever made (it could use any socket 5 through SS7 CPU regardless of the BIOS version, and supported 1.5GB SDRAM), perhaps look at Gigabyte's GA-5AA.
An awesome motherboard indeed. I just bought an old one to build a retro machine, but it's it dead on arrival, 10 beeps CMOS read/write error. Also replaced the CMOS chip to revive it, but that didn't help. Searching the internet reveals that motherboard needs replacing ... a bummer :-|
PixelPipes, I think I found a better one - check AsRock ALiveDual-eSATA2 - same ULi chipset and same AGP + PCIe combo, but straight up has AM2 socket and supports up to Phenom II X4
We all know about the fastest PCI/AGP/PCIE graphics cards, buts whats with the worst PCIE graphics Card? Maybe the geforce 6 series? Or the geforce PCX 5300 ?
Great content, keep it up!
Can be this platform to be used with voodoo2 retro machine, like having PCIe card connected as main graphic adapter, and have connected voodoo2 to it as accelerator, and possible play Glide based games? Will Windows 98 find PCIe card?
I bought this back in the day... think its in the attic somewhere
*Surely, this thing can’t run an AGP and PCI-E graphics card at the same time.*
Not only that, it got 3 PCI slots, they can hold cards, too.
Get ready for the 5 GPU overkill.
Hi ! could you share your settings ? and also which driver you use ? ... my HD 2600 XT is really slow on this board ... :/ not sure why ... Maybe i should check with another card ?
Thx for every hint ! Also changed 2 caps on the same position !
pleaaaaase look into comparing the 939 vs am2 on this board. its such a unique idea. ive also seen the dual cpu socket boards they did that look crazy.
I don't own the CPU board, sorry.
able to do a review of the www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/M2N32SLI_DeluxeWireless_Edition/ motherboard? i used to have one, and man was it good.
yesterday i bought 3 old motherboards socket 775, one of them can support both AGP 8x and PCI-E 16x - of course purposely ;)
Sadly I skipped this generation of AMD. I just had Socket A and AM2 and 775 on the other side 🙊
Any experience with the updated model Asrock 939dual Vsta?
hi . this mb is treasure . take good care of it .
Asus A8N32-SLI-Deluxe, I had that board and it was by far the best socket 939 mobo that money could buy.
Just fired up my A8N32-SLI with 4400+ (cool running E6 stepping) & ECC a month ago. Still as good as ever, but Win-10 has way too many things going on in background (I'm sure they're all important). I don't want to spend all day tweaking Linux, so for now it's sitting in the box.
I can't seem to find the music around 2:10
I have this board and love it. However for some reason I'm having issues with the PCIe slot . Iv tried several cards and they all show glitched out visuals. However the agp slot works perfectly fine. Any ideas how to fix?
which PCIe cards did you try? Maybe they are too new.
Something is wrong with the audio of your voice. It is too low compared to the music and has a strange tone like if it had some kind of echo. Great video about the fury maxx BTW.
Love your videos. Even convinced me to buy one of these boards. Just not a good idea to put computer parts on the carpet. Bad experiences with static...
I have one Asrock 939Dual-SataII, this week to sell, with the CPU X2 4600+, and 3 gb memory (2 x 1gb, 2 x 512 mb),
Have this one MBo 😁😁 but 775 soc.
Wait. Nvidia bought ULi. Does that mean that nForce was build on some of their technology?
Motherboards and carpets do not mix.
is this mobo that affected your PCI graphic card benchmarks? :P
i dit buy one today for my retro pc
Try to test a RX 570 or r9 in this board