I think that most of the distrust of mechanical broadheads is because of this brand right here. I watch all of your videos John, and I think there are so many better choices out there for a mechanical broadhead, but this brand continues to be popular. I will keep using Sevr until something changes. Thanks for the video
Rage is the only broadheads that I never had problems with or lost an animal. Yeah the test the durability but ultimately what matters is terminal performance.
I have read a lot of horror stories about Rage mechanicals. That said, before I began watching UA-cam and looking for gun/bow related videos, the only heads I ever used were Thunderhead 100gr fixed blades, and then I switched to Rage mechanicals when I discovered them (can’t remember year). I never lost an animal or had a deflection ever. I always tagged out in archery season and couldn’t hunt during the modern gun season for 8 or 9 deer seasons, so I was fortunate to take several deer with a bow. After seeing all the bad reviews of the new Rage mechanicals, this year I bought Montec G5 fixed blade heads and managed to shoot a doe opening morning archery here in Kentucky with less than satisfying results. Perhaps I’m just used to blood trails that look like buckets of blood have doused the area, so, I’m going to take my chances and switch back. I’ll keep the fixed blades for when a whitetail is behind 3 sheets of stainless steel, 3 rubber mats, a concrete wall, 150 yards away, and I fear snapping a razor blade.
@@Hammerback0 yeah i never had a blade snapped or anything. The still use the old hypos and just replace the dull blades after each kill. The mechanical vs fixed thing is like the fmj vs hollow point in bullets. Fmj will kill and will penetration better but hollow point will make a bigger hole.
I know a several guys at work that use Rage broadheads and they are happy with the results. I killed three deer with Sevrs last year and I really like them. Ultimately, confidence is worth more than just about anything else. However, if I can get big cuts and great durability and no exposed blades and great customer service, I will take it all and gladly! Good hunting this fall 👍🏻
This is not the first test I’ve seen with Rage broadheads with multiple issues. Blades not opening, breaking off etc… I’m being 100% honest when I say Grim Reaper broadheads are my go to and very reliable. I’ve never had an animal go more than 100 yards. They leave a MASSIVE wound channel and clean pass through every time. Made in USA is a plus for me also. I have friends that use Swackers and have had good experiences as well. Great video good luck hunting all.
My son used these heads on an antelope hunt 3 weeks ago. He got a complete pass through and a blood trail that was phenomenal. Entry and exit appeared to have full deployment of the blades. Just offering a real world example. Shoot what broadhead gives you confidence and put it where it is supposed to go.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
It's so funny when there's nothing worth saying about something that you know is garbage. All you can do is shake your head and give one of these🤷♂️. Made me laugh a little also lol.
@@longshotdiedtired1582 Last year I shot my deer with a 415 gr arrow at 280fps with a sevr 1.5 and I was pretty impressed. With that lighter arrow, I still got a complete pass through and the deer only ran roughly 80yds before expiring. The only thing I wasn't overly happy about was the blood trail, but that deer had so much fat built up on her ribcage that I really think for the first 50 or so yards it didn't have enough blood pressure to push through the fat. More testing is required but so far I see no reason to switch unless I get a heavier setup, and then I would just switch to the 2.0.
I took my first buck with a Rage when I got back into bowhuting back in 2015, back when Rage was using the shock collar. Rage sure puts a lot of money into advertising, but I have not used them since that first hunt and would not recommend them at all. The NC system is convenient because you are not busting shock collars when you bump the broadhead, but if anything their broadheads today are less lethal than 7 years ago. There are clearly better option available today. Your channel really exposes the weaknesses in the Rage system, and you've done an excellent job of informing the hunting community that there are better options available than what Rage offers.
Well nope from me. I just don't get the cult following Rage Mechanicals have. I get that they fly well from a less then perfectly tuned Bows but that's what Sevr's are for.
I never really seen the rage about the hyperdemic no pun intended. Im not a really big fan of mechanicals anyway but I feel it didn't do too well.. But you never know what would happen on a live target. As for me I wouldn't want to take the chance.. THANKS JOHN !!!
I've been using the rage knockoffs for The Last 5 Years I have had great success with them I've tried rage in the beginning and they just didn't hold up. Yes I will continue to use the knockoffs as they have not let me down
This confirms what I have experienced on actual whitetails in the field. So so frustrating. 20yd broadside shots performed horribly. These went in the trash and started using QAD Exodus based on Mr Lusk's reviews. I had the Exodus in my quiver in 2022 but did not have any quality opportunities to let one fly. Maybe this year -- fingers crossed
Never used any form of mechanical but a buddy gave me a pack of these heads to sharpen up for him and on one head...BRAND SPANKING NEW pack by the way...one of the blades didn't get fully machined correctly and wouldn't clip back into the ferrule...yes it was the head they have fully opened in the package to show you how far the blades open...but they sent it out anyway...hmmmm wonder where their quality control really starts. That head is useless until you get some replacement blades but that's a given since these are a one and done 99% of the time. From what I've seen on this channel I wouldn't spend a penny on these heads. I'll never shoot a mechanical but I'm with you guys who stepped up to the Sevrs...by far a better head.
This is why I've switched away from Rage. They will kill deer but you pretty much get a one and done on all the ones I've used. If the blades don't break, it boogers the ferrule so badly that they don't fly well. Enjoy your testing videos!
Thanks Jon. I've used them as well. There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
I think that the reason the head closed so quickly in the penetration test is because the resistance of the rubber and MDF on the opened blades was far greater than the resistance of the ballistics gel on the front of the head. As a result it locked shut.
I think I will stick with my exodus fixed blades. They always stay open 🤣🤣🤣. I use to shoot rage but had some that didn't deploy all the way so fixed blades for me.
@@leaky3752 I got them to shoot a deer at 20 to see how I like them. If I set up and only have a 20 yard shot gonna put it to the test otherwise I will shoot my 100 grain exodus fixed blade because it's dialed into 60yds but 50 more grain got little more drop but dead on at 20 lol
John this broadhead from day one was all hype and marketing in my opinion. You have proven over and over again that there are way better choices for a lot less$$
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
@LuskArcheryAdventures, Thanks for the video. You mentioned other broadheads from Amazon. What do you recommend for Killer Instinct Hero 380 Crossbow? Thanks.
Shot a whitetail with it yesterday here In Louisiana @ 35 yards cut a rib in half didn’t go 12 yards before it went down massive blood trail durability issues sure but serves its purpose.
I don’t shoot Rage anymore. I have went to Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts. However, keeping it fair, Rage is a one and done head, and all who shoot them know that. Durability isn’t a consideration because it will only be shot once. Keeping that in mind, Rage are not terrible heads. If you are a guy that doesn’t spend time tuning your equipment, it may be better to shot this and hit the mark, rather than a fixed head and badly miss the mark.
Good comment. At the same time, if there are heads that are not "one and done" and cost the same--then why not shoot those instead. The "done" part is happening within an animal and can affect its lethality as well.
Any fixed > Any mechanical. Nothing compares to a head machined from one piece of solid steel. Tune your bow, get yourself some VPAs, kill stuff, resharpen and reuse the head.
Thanks for the comment. Everything is a tradeoff in broadhead design. Mechs maximize cut size and flight. Fixed maximize durability and penetration. BUT there are mechs that are MUCH more durable than a lot of fixed blade heads as well.
@@LuskArcheryAdventuresok thank you. Yes that’s definitely putting the heads through the wringer. Like you have mentioned before, these tests are not necessarily indicative of how a head will perform on game. Some of these heads you test are awesome on game, but not intended to be shot multiple times through tough medium. I do like to swap out blades and keep shooting a head after a kill if there is no damage to ferrule.
Best way I have seen to use the Rage is to take the package and throw it in the garbage, then install a NAP Spitfire or Grim Reaper. Rage also happens to describe the feeling when you use one and the blood trail goes into the next county.
Unless they drastically change there will never be a rage broad head in my quiver. Like others have mentioned there are sooo many better options. Like John said not surprised at all by the results.
😅Oppps lol sorry LuskArcheryAdventures I meant that I use Rage and the Grim Reaper broadheads the pro series it has a 2 inch cut it's a 100 grain broadhead on a 400 grain bolt I'm shooting a Ravin R10 at 400 fps it's a beast the deer don't go very far I'll tell you. Cheers and happy hunting
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
Thanks for the comment. Of course it is. But durability is durability. And hard impacts on heavy bones or at angles can be more tough on a broadhead than steel plate. My tests are simply designed to provide data points so people can make informed decisions about which broadhead is best for them. If one head can stay intact thru the MDF, Steel Plate & Concrete and another falls apart on the MDF--all other things equal--I know which one is going in my quiver.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I couldn’t agree more. My comment was just a jab at the folk who underestimate the toughness of deer, especially with the multiple moving and contracting layers inside an animal. Love your tests, keep ‘em coming. Might I suggest maybe a moving target, such as a white plastic 55 gallon drum on a lazy Susan
I shot my bow at elevation for elk to make sure it flew the same and then put on my tooth of the arrow broadheads and they hit exactly the same as my field points I was amazed my buddy shoots the kudus and he had to tune quite a bit to get it correct but the claim that tota makes is accurate for me anyway flies like a field point I have the original vented not the xl version
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they really are and they penetrated farther than the kudu points also in my block the tota heads actually went through the block stopped before the fletching but the kudu heads weren’t close I really was skeptical when I got them but I’m a fan now
Not sure why Rage doesn’t just make a fixed blade using that same chisel tip. Since the blades don’t often deploy all the way, or stay opened just make a fixed already.
Wow it Pretty much mirrors of the hundred grain test you did earlier. I watch every video you do… I agree with the comment before mine the brand single handed gives all Other mechanical broadheads bad name. I Personally won’t use the one of them no matter how good they are . I like the keep it simple stupid Approach. Just me do what you want to do. I think this video is The proverbial nail in the coffin if you continue to use this Broadhead well good luck to you.
I remember watching the trypan nc video and it went through mdf 5 times with only bent blades and no breaking. Even held up on concrete, which matches my testing. Better blades ?
Why did .270 get a bad wrap?Why does rage get a bad wrap?cause they were very popular and had more hunters use them..and people Blamed their poor shooting skills on them
Rage gets badmouthed because they aren't even close in quality to other mechanical heads. Between the three blades not opening, the 2 blades sometimes not staying open, and all of them bending/breaking blades like the g5 mechanicals, there's not really any reason to shoot them. The 270 had issues because shooting elk with cup and core bullets at 3200fps doesn't end in deep penetration. Much like how the durability and reliability of sevr has dethroned the rage, premium bullets like the badlands bulldozer, swift scirocco, and nosler partition have dethroned the old cup and core bullets for use in the 270 on elk sized game. People found problems and other companies found solutions. Rage will still kill an animal, but I trust a sevr to do it more reliably and consistently.
Why do people even shoot these things?? So many better options. Thanks John. If I was you I would keep a eye open for anything in the mail from Rage. 🤣🤣
There is a lot I like about them...but I wish they would just make them more durable. I'm sure they can get the job done most of the time...But they clearly invest more in their marketing than in their durability.
Crazy how I kill so much game with rages and have never broke a blade off never even in elk and deer the no collars are garbage but the collared ones destroy deer better than most wish you could post pics on here I have bent alot of blades even have a vertebrae boiled out with a rage inbedded in it totally kills deer better than plywood and cement blocks lol I have seen the NC fail I never shot any but butchered and help recover a few and they were poor at best some only opened one blade at entrance
I enjoy this channel, and it’s not a insult to this gentleman, but I told my wife before I started the video that it was going to be a video trashing the heads. I’ve taken many deer with Rage mechanicals, never lost one, never had a head fail. I don’t expect a broad head to shoot through metal repeatedly or anything else repeatedly. I sharpen my knives, but I elect not to chance trying to Re sharpen a broad head, and I’d say 99% of hunters replace them after harvesting an animal. I’d like to see some channels similar to this test some firearms/ammunition. Can you imagine the equivalent video? “This Win-emgton .22 ammunition is trash, it repeatedly fails to penetrate the ballistics gel the minimum required by FBI standards, when shot from a 2” barrel at 200 yards”. And a comment section full of individuals who never cut the tags off of their “Carbon Activated scent elimination suit” they bought from Cabelas last year “Win-emgton is such junk! I tried taking a charging grizzly down with it in November, bear didn’t flinch, had to beat it to death with my bare fists”. In reality those soft, supple, non calloused hands have held nothing more than their keyboard. Sorry. Went a bit off track, just annoying to read when I’ve seen results in person
I hate to always be knocking mechanicals, and Rage in particular. But dang it, they simply do not hold up,I could care less how many animals people SAY they've taken with them either. If you have a head breaking down in this manner thru CARDBOARD,and not staying open in GEL,,,,what do you really have ? I'll tell you what you have,,,,,,you have a Las Vegas Casino betting gamble that your head will open and fully perform. But why ? Why gamble when you can get a tough as nails COC head that can fly like a dart to 100 yards and but 3 of them for $29 ? That's what I decided to do and will continue to do, and continue to pile up animals all year long. I'm going to get consistent performance and bone smashing ability,with massive blood trails. I for one am not buying the Rage hype, never have, and frankly why I no longer listen to a word John dudley says on his account of trying to push inferior garbage on to the masses of rookie bow hunters with this Rage head and stupid gimmicks like "Quiver trousers" by Sitka. It's time archers understand when they are being SOLD a bill of goods thats junk. Thanks to honest straight as an arrow type of people like John Lusk who develops a program that cannot be manipulated and simply posts the results for us to see guys like John Dudley are really pushing inferior product. I know there is a ton of Nock On followers. But it's time ya'll take note that MONEY motivates many of our archery people,John Dudley is just one such guy. Drury boys are another. Stop buying into their B.S. Why try a inferior product when you can get something far better, but only missing the "endorsement" by paid pro's ? Get out there and kill some animals yourself and do you own due diligence. Scrap the Rage guys. Not worth the GAMBLE. You may have killed 100 animals with a Rage, you just never know when the head with a known fault comes back to halt you. Increase your success CHANCES with a tough fixed head. I hate reading about heads noth opening up from Rage users.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Mike. There are some things I like about their design and I know they've taken a ton of animals...but I wish they'd less into their marketing & more into their durability.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves.
I've had some companies get my input in their design phases...but I don't charge them. I'm sure Rage knows exactly what their heads can and cannot do. It's all a choice of how to invest your dollars based on your return on investment. If they invested more in their durability and less in their marketing, they'd have a better broadhead...but wouldn't be as profitable.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
Typical rage. Instead of “rage in the cage”. It needs to be “rage leaves blades in the cage”. Rage broadheads are a rich man’s broadhead. You have to replace the blades every time you shoot one.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves.
I have had two of these heads open up this year hit a doe in the neck 🕑 weeks ago ...and missed a big 12 this morning..that I have hunted for a week ..and this POS head opened up on a good shot ...
Cool name and great marketing "RAGE, RAGE, RAGE" 🙄 They made their millions upon millions they could care less now. If they did care they would have made a better head over the years. Then you have fan boys that will snap and mangle blades and say oh they've done so good. 🤯🤡😂
I think that most of the distrust of mechanical broadheads is because of this brand right here. I watch all of your videos John, and I think there are so many better choices out there for a mechanical broadhead, but this brand continues to be popular. I will keep using Sevr until something changes. Thanks for the video
Rage is the only broadheads that I never had problems with or lost an animal. Yeah the test the durability but ultimately what matters is terminal performance.
I have read a lot of horror stories about Rage mechanicals. That said, before I began watching UA-cam and looking for gun/bow related videos, the only heads I ever used were Thunderhead 100gr fixed blades, and then I switched to Rage mechanicals when I discovered them (can’t remember year). I never lost an animal or had a deflection ever. I always tagged out in archery season and couldn’t hunt during the modern gun season for 8 or 9 deer seasons, so I was fortunate to take several deer with a bow. After seeing all the bad reviews of the new Rage mechanicals, this year I bought Montec G5 fixed blade heads and managed to shoot a doe opening morning archery here in Kentucky with less than satisfying results. Perhaps I’m just used to blood trails that look like buckets of blood have doused the area, so, I’m going to take my chances and switch back. I’ll keep the fixed blades for when a whitetail is behind 3 sheets of stainless steel, 3 rubber mats, a concrete wall, 150 yards away, and I fear snapping a razor blade.
@@Hammerback0 yeah i never had a blade snapped or anything. The still use the old hypos and just replace the dull blades after each kill. The mechanical vs fixed thing is like the fmj vs hollow point in bullets. Fmj will kill and will penetration better but hollow point will make a bigger hole.
I know a several guys at work that use Rage broadheads and they are happy with the results. I killed three deer with Sevrs last year and I really like them. Ultimately, confidence is worth more than just about anything else. However, if I can get big cuts and great durability and no exposed blades and great customer service, I will take it all and gladly! Good hunting this fall 👍🏻
I watch bulls drop every year with them my buddy uses 2 blade chisel tips.
This is not the first test I’ve seen with Rage broadheads with multiple issues. Blades not opening, breaking off etc… I’m being 100% honest when I say Grim Reaper broadheads are my go to and very reliable. I’ve never had an animal go more than 100 yards. They leave a MASSIVE wound channel and clean pass through every time. Made in USA is a plus for me also. I have friends that use Swackers and have had good experiences as well. Great video good luck hunting all.
Thanks for sharing that.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Yup 😏
My son used these heads on an antelope hunt 3 weeks ago. He got a complete pass through and a blood trail that was phenomenal. Entry and exit appeared to have full deployment of the blades. Just offering a real world example. Shoot what broadhead gives you confidence and put it where it is supposed to go.
Good to hear. Thank you for sharing that. I have no doubt they can get the job done....LOTS of animals have fallen to Rages over the years.
And once again Rage fails as most of us knew it would. Once again great test.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
The end of the video was funny hard to keep a straight face . Another DUD !
It's so funny when there's nothing worth saying about something that you know is garbage. All you can do is shake your head and give one of these🤷♂️. Made me laugh a little also lol.
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And that's why I switched to the Sevr after watching your videos, thanks I really appreciate all you do
I despise mechanicals but John has convinced me to try the serv 1.5 those suckers are different level
@@longshotdiedtired1582 Last year I shot my deer with a 415 gr arrow at 280fps with a sevr 1.5 and I was pretty impressed. With that lighter arrow, I still got a complete pass through and the deer only ran roughly 80yds before expiring. The only thing I wasn't overly happy about was the blood trail, but that deer had so much fat built up on her ribcage that I really think for the first 50 or so yards it didn't have enough blood pressure to push through the fat. More testing is required but so far I see no reason to switch unless I get a heavier setup, and then I would just switch to the 2.0.
Thanks for sharing that.
Standard Rage performance we have come to expect from John’s testing.
Thanks for watching
I took my first buck with a Rage when I got back into bowhuting back in 2015, back when Rage was using the shock collar. Rage sure puts a lot of money into advertising, but I have not used them since that first hunt and would not recommend them at all. The NC system is convenient because you are not busting shock collars when you bump the broadhead, but if anything their broadheads today are less lethal than 7 years ago. There are clearly better option available today. Your channel really exposes the weaknesses in the Rage system, and you've done an excellent job of informing the hunting community that there are better options available than what Rage offers.
Thank you. I really like a lot about the Slip Cam design...I just wish they were more durable.
It was between the Rage and Sevr 1.5 for me in the beginning. Definitely glad I went with Sevr. I really thought the +P would have done better. Crazy!
Yeah, I had high hopes for it as well.
Well nope from me. I just don't get the cult following Rage Mechanicals have. I get that they fly well from a less then perfectly tuned Bows but that's what Sevr's are for.
Thanks for sharing.
Rage would be out of business if Sevr had the same marketing as they do. Serv better quality hands down.
Good comment. Different approaches to the business :)
Marketing wins always
I never really seen the rage about the hyperdemic no pun intended. Im not a really big fan of mechanicals anyway but I feel it didn't do too well.. But you never know what would happen on a live target. As for me I wouldn't want to take the chance.. THANKS JOHN !!!
Thanks for sharing Eric.
I've been using the rage knockoffs for The Last 5 Years I have had great success with them I've tried rage in the beginning and they just didn't hold up. Yes I will continue to use the knockoffs as they have not let me down
Thanks for sharing that.
This confirms what I have experienced on actual whitetails in the field. So so frustrating. 20yd broadside shots performed horribly. These went in the trash and started using QAD Exodus based on Mr Lusk's reviews. I had the Exodus in my quiver in 2022 but did not have any quality opportunities to let one fly. Maybe this year -- fingers crossed
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Never used any form of mechanical but a buddy gave me a pack of these heads to sharpen up for him and on one head...BRAND SPANKING NEW pack by the way...one of the blades didn't get fully machined correctly and wouldn't clip back into the ferrule...yes it was the head they have fully opened in the package to show you how far the blades open...but they sent it out anyway...hmmmm wonder where their quality control really starts. That head is useless until you get some replacement blades but that's a given since these are a one and done 99% of the time. From what I've seen on this channel I wouldn't spend a penny on these heads. I'll never shoot a mechanical but I'm with you guys who stepped up to the Sevrs...by far a better head.
Thanks for sharing that.
This is why I've switched away from Rage. They will kill deer but you pretty much get a one and done on all the ones I've used. If the blades don't break, it boogers the ferrule so badly that they don't fly well. Enjoy your testing videos!
Yep. Thanks for the comment
I’ve used them but have gotten away from them thanks to your channel!!
Thanks Jon. I've used them as well. There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
I think that the reason the head closed so quickly in the penetration test is because the resistance of the rubber and MDF on the opened blades was far greater than the resistance of the ballistics gel on the front of the head. As a result it locked shut.
Yep...it's not uncommon for these and gator style heads as well, that don't lock.
Thanks for another great review, your hard work helped me settle on Sevr heads !!
Thanks Jay.
I think I will stick with my exodus fixed blades. They always stay open 🤣🤣🤣. I use to shoot rage but had some that didn't deploy all the way so fixed blades for me.
In my opinion, you can’t go wrong with Exodus!
@@razorrebel true. I bought some 150 grain tuffhead broadheads. Gonna try them.
Those bad boys are awesome. I would definitely shoot those over the rage any day👍.
@@leaky3752 I got them to shoot a deer at 20 to see how I like them. If I set up and only have a 20 yard shot gonna put it to the test otherwise I will shoot my 100 grain exodus fixed blade because it's dialed into 60yds but 50 more grain got little more drop but dead on at 20 lol
Those are great heads.
John this broadhead from day one was all hype and marketing in my opinion. You have proven over and over again that there are way better choices for a lot less$$
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
@LuskArcheryAdventures, Thanks for the video. You mentioned other broadheads from Amazon. What do you recommend for Killer Instinct Hero 380 Crossbow? Thanks.
I recommend the Sevr Robusto. Check out my reviews of both heads. And I have a discount code to save some money: LUSKFIVE
Man this is crazy ive always had the open. Crazy. Ik they are single use broadheads but gosh dangit it kills them fast
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Shot a whitetail with it yesterday here In Louisiana @ 35 yards cut a rib in half didn’t go 12 yards before it went down massive blood trail durability issues sure but serves its purpose.
Nice. Good to hear
I use the Rage and Grim Ripper and they work awesome for me in my Ravin R10 crossbow.
I'm not even sure what that is. Are you referring to a Frankenhead...where you mix a Grim Reaper and a Rage?
I don’t shoot Rage anymore. I have went to Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts.
However, keeping it fair, Rage is a one and done head, and all who shoot them know that. Durability isn’t a consideration because it will only be shot once.
Keeping that in mind, Rage are not terrible heads.
If you are a guy that doesn’t spend time tuning your equipment, it may be better to shot this and hit the mark, rather than a fixed head and badly miss the mark.
Good comment. At the same time, if there are heads that are not "one and done" and cost the same--then why not shoot those instead. The "done" part is happening within an animal and can affect its lethality as well.
This guy knows his stuff!
Thank you :)
Any fixed > Any mechanical. Nothing compares to a head machined from one piece of solid steel. Tune your bow, get yourself some VPAs, kill stuff, resharpen and reuse the head.
Thanks for the comment. Everything is a tradeoff in broadhead design. Mechs maximize cut size and flight. Fixed maximize durability and penetration. BUT there are mechs that are MUCH more durable than a lot of fixed blade heads as well.
John I really enjoy your tests. I do have a question. Is a new head used for each stage or is it the same head until completion or failure?
For the durability testing, it’s the same head till completion.
@@LuskArcheryAdventuresok thank you. Yes that’s definitely putting the heads through the wringer. Like you have mentioned before, these tests are not necessarily indicative of how a head will perform on game. Some of these heads you test are awesome on game, but not intended to be shot multiple times through tough medium. I do like to swap out blades and keep shooting a head after a kill if there is no damage to ferrule.
I’d rather shoot the maxone all steel any day ! Definitely a problem with the blades not staying open either.
Yeah, those heads were really tough!
Best way I have seen to use the Rage is to take the package and throw it in the garbage, then install a NAP Spitfire or Grim Reaper. Rage also happens to describe the feeling when you use one and the blood trail goes into the next county.
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@@LuskArcheryAdventures Made my wife subscribe for that. HAHA
Unless they drastically change there will never be a rage broad head in my quiver. Like others have mentioned there are sooo many better options. Like John said not surprised at all by the results.
There is a lot I like about Rages...but I just wish they would make them more durable.
😅Oppps lol sorry LuskArcheryAdventures I meant that I use Rage and the Grim Reaper broadheads the pro series it has a 2 inch cut it's a 100 grain broadhead on a 400 grain bolt I'm shooting a Ravin R10 at 400 fps it's a beast the deer don't go very far I'll tell you. Cheers and happy hunting
Nice. Thank you for the comment.
How people still use these is beyond me.
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
“bUt ShOoTiNg DeEr Is DiFfErAnt”
Thanks for the comment. Of course it is. But durability is durability. And hard impacts on heavy bones or at angles can be more tough on a broadhead than steel plate.
My tests are simply designed to provide data points so people can make informed decisions about which broadhead is best for them. If one head can stay intact thru the MDF, Steel Plate & Concrete and another falls apart on the MDF--all other things equal--I know which one is going in my quiver.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I couldn’t agree more. My comment was just a jab at the folk who underestimate the toughness of deer, especially with the multiple moving and contracting layers inside an animal.
Love your tests, keep ‘em coming. Might I suggest maybe a moving target, such as a white plastic 55 gallon drum on a lazy Susan
Pretty generous 7 on the score lol
I have to stick with my scoring system, so it's not subjective.
The hypodermic +p 1.5s are the best rage in my opinion
Thanks for sharing that.
In the words of the Notorious B.I.G. -" If you don't know now you know."
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I shot my bow at elevation for elk to make sure it flew the same and then put on my tooth of the arrow broadheads and they hit exactly the same as my field points I was amazed my buddy shoots the kudus and he had to tune quite a bit to get it correct but the claim that tota makes is accurate for me anyway flies like a field point I have the original vented not the xl version
Yeah, those TOTA 1" heads are one of the best fixed blade flying heads made.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they really are and they penetrated farther than the kudu points also in my block the tota heads actually went through the block stopped before the fletching but the kudu heads weren’t close I really was skeptical when I got them but I’m a fan now
Not sure why Rage doesn’t just make a fixed blade using that same chisel tip.
Since the blades don’t often deploy all the way, or stay opened just make a fixed already.
Thanks for the comment.
Wow. Not for me………thank you for your excellent work.
I'm sure they can get the job done, but I hear ya. Thanks Bob.
Wow it Pretty much mirrors of the hundred grain test you did earlier. I watch every video you do… I agree with the comment before mine the brand single handed gives all Other mechanical broadheads bad name. I Personally won’t use the one of them no matter how good they are . I like the keep it simple stupid Approach. Just me do what you want to do. I think this video is The proverbial nail in the coffin if you continue to use this Broadhead well good luck to you.
Thanks for sharing Carl.
I remember watching the trypan nc video and it went through mdf 5 times with only bent blades and no breaking. Even held up on concrete, which matches my testing. Better blades ?
That test surprised me as well. I have no idea what they've changed.
Unreliable opening and broken blades do not inspire confidence in this one
Agreed.
DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THESE. buy dee power ones and you will save a ton of money and get ALOT MORE durability.
Correct
Right...even Deepower and Maxone are MUCH more durable.
Good job
Thank you
I shoot these out of my mathews v3x 29. When I hunt mule deer and have to shoot passed 70 yards. They fly great and leave a nice blood trail.
Thanks for sharing that.
Why did .270 get a bad wrap?Why does rage get a bad wrap?cause they were very popular and had more hunters use them..and people
Blamed their poor shooting skills on them
Rage gets badmouthed because they aren't even close in quality to other mechanical heads. Between the three blades not opening, the 2 blades sometimes not staying open, and all of them bending/breaking blades like the g5 mechanicals, there's not really any reason to shoot them. The 270 had issues because shooting elk with cup and core bullets at 3200fps doesn't end in deep penetration. Much like how the durability and reliability of sevr has dethroned the rage, premium bullets like the badlands bulldozer, swift scirocco, and nosler partition have dethroned the old cup and core bullets for use in the 270 on elk sized game. People found problems and other companies found solutions. Rage will still kill an animal, but I trust a sevr to do it more reliably and consistently.
Thanks for sharing.
I still like rage 3 blade chisel Tip the best out of all the rage.
Good to hear.
Why do people even shoot these things?? So many better options. Thanks John. If I was you I would keep a eye open for anything in the mail from Rage. 🤣🤣
There is a lot I like about them...but I wish they would just make them more durable. I'm sure they can get the job done most of the time...But they clearly invest more in their marketing than in their durability.
Another One and Done.
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John,,, be careful pushing your fingers against the blades like that, they are sharp and could cut you.
Man, I have SO MANY cuts on my fingers. I keep a roll of paper towels there close to me cause I've made a number of blood trails over the years.
Crazy how I kill so much game with rages and have never broke a blade off never even in elk and deer the no collars are garbage but the collared ones destroy deer better than most wish you could post pics on here I have bent alot of blades even have a vertebrae boiled out with a rage inbedded in it totally kills deer better than plywood and cement blocks lol I have seen the NC fail I never shot any but butchered and help recover a few and they were poor at best some only opened one blade at entrance
I enjoy this channel, and it’s not a insult to this gentleman, but I told my wife before I started the video that it was going to be a video trashing the heads. I’ve taken many deer with Rage mechanicals, never lost one, never had a head fail. I don’t expect a broad head to shoot through metal repeatedly or anything else repeatedly. I sharpen my knives, but I elect not to chance trying to Re sharpen a broad head, and I’d say 99% of hunters replace them after harvesting an animal. I’d like to see some channels similar to this test some firearms/ammunition. Can you imagine the equivalent video? “This Win-emgton .22 ammunition is trash, it repeatedly fails to penetrate the ballistics gel the minimum required by FBI standards, when shot from a 2” barrel at 200 yards”. And a comment section full of individuals who never cut the tags off of their “Carbon Activated scent elimination suit” they bought from Cabelas last year “Win-emgton is such junk! I tried taking a charging grizzly down with it in November, bear didn’t flinch, had to beat it to death with my bare fists”. In reality those soft, supple, non calloused hands have held nothing more than their keyboard. Sorry. Went a bit off track, just annoying to read when I’ve seen results in person
Thanks for sharing that experience Frank.
No strength in that broadhead at all I'm surprised the blades didn't break when you shot the cardboard with it
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Can't trust them to hit a rib - no way
I'm sure they can work in maybe most situations...but there are serious durability issues.
I hate to always be knocking mechanicals, and Rage in particular. But dang it, they simply do not hold up,I could care less how many animals people SAY they've taken with them either. If you have a head breaking down in this manner thru CARDBOARD,and not staying open in GEL,,,,what do you really have ? I'll tell you what you have,,,,,,you have a Las Vegas Casino betting gamble that your head will open and fully perform. But why ? Why gamble when you can get a tough as nails COC head that can fly like a dart to 100 yards and but 3 of them for $29 ? That's what I decided to do and will continue to do, and continue to pile up animals all year long. I'm going to get consistent performance and bone smashing ability,with massive blood trails.
I for one am not buying the Rage hype, never have, and frankly why I no longer listen to a word John dudley says on his account of trying to push inferior garbage on to the masses of rookie bow hunters with this Rage head and stupid gimmicks like "Quiver trousers" by Sitka.
It's time archers understand when they are being SOLD a bill of goods thats junk. Thanks to honest straight as an arrow type of people like John Lusk who develops a program that cannot be manipulated and simply posts the results for us to see guys like John Dudley are really pushing inferior product. I know there is a ton of Nock On followers. But it's time ya'll take note that MONEY motivates many of our archery people,John Dudley is just one such guy. Drury boys are another. Stop buying into their B.S. Why try a inferior product when you can get something far better, but only missing the "endorsement" by paid pro's ? Get out there and kill some animals yourself and do you own due diligence.
Scrap the Rage guys. Not worth the GAMBLE. You may have killed 100 animals with a Rage, you just never know when the head with a known fault comes back to halt you. Increase your success CHANCES with a tough fixed head. I hate reading about heads noth opening up from Rage users.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Mike. There are some things I like about their design and I know they've taken a ton of animals...but I wish they'd less into their marketing & more into their durability.
Another epic fail! Rage needs to pull there heads out of there butts. Lol
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
Hey....it would work on a baby fawn!🤣
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yes so true
Broadhead companies should pay you money to test before they go out on market
And you show them the REAL WEAK POINTS
I've had some companies get my input in their design phases...but I don't charge them.
I'm sure Rage knows exactly what their heads can and cannot do.
It's all a choice of how to invest your dollars based on your return on investment. If they invested more in their durability and less in their marketing, they'd have a better broadhead...but wouldn't be as profitable.
Why, why do people keep using these things???
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
Typical rage. Instead of “rage in the cage”. It needs to be “rage leaves blades in the cage”. Rage broadheads are a rich man’s broadhead. You have to replace the blades every time you shoot one.
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More proof these are a paper tiger
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves. But marketing makes them more profitable.
It's a Rage what ya except junk!
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Nope. Next!
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Great test.. Just more junk.. Shwacker all day over these..
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The original rage hypodermics were good. Anything after stinks
There are a lot of things I like about Rages...but I just wish they'd spend a bit less on marketing and more on durability.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they definitely let quality go great design but they need to fix that durability. Maybe your videos will help
Nothing new here. Rage has always been junk!
There are a lot of things I like about them...and lots of animals have fallen to them...but I do wish they invested less in marketing and more in the heads themselves.
That's spooky. No opening. And cheapy durability
Yeah, they struggled in that department.
Rage should stay in its cage.
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Rage are junk. Had many problems with them. I still don’t understand why they are so popular.
There are a lot of things I like about them...but clearly they invest more in marketing than they do in the broadheads themselves.
They suck I used them last year
Thanks for sharing.
Rages are junk! Wasp jackhammer sst or rocket sidewinder, or nap spitfire! Period! Fixed blade guys should stick with nap thunderhead or qad exodus!
Yeah, I like the slip cam design..but the durability is severely wanting.
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Thanks for watching Tim.
I have had two of these heads open up this year hit a doe in the neck 🕑 weeks ago ...and missed a big 12 this morning..that I have hunted for a week ..and this POS head opened up on a good shot ...
Dang it. Sorry to hear that.
Huh? I understand nothing?
Cool name and great marketing "RAGE, RAGE, RAGE" 🙄 They made their millions upon millions they could care less now. If they did care they would have made a better head over the years. Then you have fan boys that will snap and mangle blades and say oh they've done so good. 🤯🤡😂
There is a lot I like about them...but I wish they would just make them more durable.