They Cheated in Their Own Challenge (& Banned Me For Winning) - Forza Horizon 5

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
  • More info: • unedited ptg chat
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    Just another FH5 challenge from the well-known team of PTG. What could possibly go wrong?
    Please do not attempt to contact PTG members in any way.
    0:00 Intro
    0:19 The challenge
    1:16 Suspicious time
    1:51 Responses by PTG Outlaw
    2:30 Investigation
    3:02 Discord ban
    3:37 The coverup. Why?
    #FH5 #ForzaHorizon5
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  • @seP4
    @seP4  2 роки тому +3980

    Update: I got the credits and super wheelspin rewards and they asked me again about the prize car. They are still completely silent about the cheating attempt and coverup which was the main point of this video.

    • @KarkinosSolar
      @KarkinosSolar 2 роки тому +132

      Quick thing for you mate, your Community is going around giving EVERYONE in the PTG Server loads of shit & Also been racist in their comments, as another content creator i don't think this is acceptable behaviour from your Community and it needs sorting out asap.

    • @APRAYAY
      @APRAYAY 2 роки тому +40

      The problem here is two things. They have no reason to cover it up. Somehow inaccurate information was given and he used an AWD tune not a RWD tune. 34s are possible on the course using AWD. The information in this video isn’t accurate therefore this really needs deleted.

    • @usleadershipareliars
      @usleadershipareliars 2 роки тому +7

      Dog imagine keeping a video up thats full of lies, and then being part of a racist community and being proud of that
      It's a weird flex

    • @seP4
      @seP4  2 роки тому +285

      maybe he should have clarified us on the tune when he was being called a cheater, but no, he kept silent. from the messages it's clear that he used a rwd build. and i don't think 34s are possible in the challenge. even 35 needs a near perfect lap.

    • @seP4
      @seP4  2 роки тому +474

      just to be clear, i do not condone or encourage any type of harassment towards PTG members. but i have no control over what people decide to do on their own

  • @Tocsj
    @Tocsj 2 роки тому +3801

    Honestly pretty sad from PTG. Dude high up gets caught cheating and doubles down, then bans you and deletes all evidence. Doesnt exactly scream innocent lmao

    • @MElmesy
      @MElmesy 2 роки тому +88

      Very embarrassing for them

    • @MrAnbros
      @MrAnbros 2 роки тому +124

      You know they've been picking themselves as winner's on many competitions? Even tho it didn't make any sense a lot of the time. Also they have very heave gatekeeping. I always stayed away from them, as far as possible.

    • @usleadershipareliars
      @usleadershipareliars 2 роки тому

      Honestly pretty sad for a bunch of losers with no life to cry about something that doesnt matter

    • @ihateyousubi
      @ihateyousubi 2 роки тому +5

      Not ALL evidence 😈

    • @konradjaworski3222
      @konradjaworski3222 2 роки тому +26

      @@MrAnbros I never got my rewards after winning one of their photo competitions back on FH4

  • @porklostit
    @porklostit 2 роки тому +1159

    A quick summary from another person who was in that event, a few of us had been going back and forth with 39-38 second times then he posted that time out of nowhere with no prior talk of trying it, I asked what tune he used and he gave a rwd purist tune (absolutely no off-road capabilities) and immediately some of us were skeptical, then we asked if he had a clip, I thought it was necessary seen as one of the rules was that you were required to use a ptg paintjob but without a clip you’d never see it so why would you need to use it? Ptgs response was that it was just a honestly thing and no clip was required. After a few of us asked more questions they tried to quiet us by saying that a ptg member wouldn’t cheat and we were being “accusative” then sepi came with his run and it went quiet after that

    • @N3onDr1v3
      @N3onDr1v3 2 роки тому +97

      And then sepi got this run...

    • @porklostit
      @porklostit 2 роки тому +69

      @@N3onDr1v3 saxophone intensifies

    • @Tezunegari
      @Tezunegari Рік тому +35

      (personal oppinion, not a statement of fact)
      a time challenge where you had to use THEIR PAINTJOB?
      Sounds like they tried to get promo material for sponsors without being able to pull of the times themselves.

    • @porklostit
      @porklostit Рік тому +17

      @@Tezunegari that’s what a few of us suspect

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards Рік тому +19

      If PTG were legit any logical person that doesn't have the proof to backup their 1:36* claim could have easily attempt to recreate the race they did to get that time.
      Using the same car, the same race, the same checkpoint and blablabla. Even if his recreated proof were short of a second it would be enough to show he isn't making stuff up. But instead they didn't double down, they triple down.

  • @amazingamer360
    @amazingamer360 2 роки тому +2564

    So, a member of a well-known Forza team (PTG outlaw) got caught cheating the team's own time trial challenge, and when they were confronted they denied everything, banned you from their DC server, and tried deleting all the evidence? Jeez, that couldn't have been handled in a more sketchy way. This is embarrassing.

    • @instinct2768
      @instinct2768 2 роки тому +9

      @@gregf1729 now as far as i can see even the discord server itself is gone

    • @cripplettv1309
      @cripplettv1309 2 роки тому +2

      Actually, Outlaw wasn't cheating, this was proven by another member already. This community also raided their server and was racist and rude to everybody, the owner of this video also said the n-word to another ptg member.

    • @instinct2768
      @instinct2768 2 роки тому +2

      @@cripplettv1309 unless you got some incredible evidence like presented in this video about anything you say. i claim that you are just talking horseshit

    • @b3nzee
      @b3nzee 2 роки тому +83

      @@cripplettv1309 What proof was there that Outlaw wasnt cheating? Do you have proof of SP4 of saying the N-word word to another PTG member? And not once in the video did SP4 say to his community to join the server and raid it.

    • @Luko69
      @Luko69 2 роки тому +35

      @@cripplettv1309 also outlaw told SP4 that he was using a rwd car, so think with s brain m8

  • @Sphynx93rkn
    @Sphynx93rkn 2 роки тому +718

    Lmfao. They are fucked up. You did nice job of exposing them. Actually there are lots of discord servers operating like this.

    • @pepzo_mix
      @pepzo_mix 2 роки тому +2

      Bro are they all working with Turn10 ?

    • @denm6893
      @denm6893 Рік тому

      @@pepzo_mix they work with Forza, they're all corrupt.

    • @WSX-
      @WSX- Рік тому +7

      @@pepzo_mix As far as I know, only the Leader has the closest ties with the devs, so it could be a possibility

    • @Speedracer38
      @Speedracer38 Рік тому +3

      The video could have said P1R did this and I wouldn't have been surprised LOL

  • @therealbahamut
    @therealbahamut 2 роки тому +460

    Cheaters are easy to spot: they refuse to prove they are legitimate. Honest winners are not only willing but EAGER to prove the legitimacy of their victory. I was accused of cheating on tests as a kid in school because I rarely did homework yet aced tests regularly; I told the suspicious teachers to give me another test. Some would. I would ace that too. They would then shut up.
    When someone goes out of their way to silence accusations rather than prove their innocence, that's usually all the proof I need.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 2 роки тому +45

      100%, reminds me of when I aced the map test in social studies. The other students thought I had "cheated" because there was a torn out paper of the map from the book inside my desk. I happened to find that before the test began. Studied it, shoved it inside the desk and never looked in it which was easy as hell to tell. I was also the first one to finish the test as well. When accused I literally walked up to the teacher, reached out my hand and asked him to give me another test and I would do it again right in front of everyone. He immediately said I didn't have to retake the test because that is not an action a cheater would take lol!

    • @rudrarajsingh6224
      @rudrarajsingh6224 Рік тому +4

      Sometimes sigma winners just don't give a fuck to dogs barking and complaining that the win was not legitimate
      But that rarely happens, who questions a sigma eh?

    • @therealbahamut
      @therealbahamut Рік тому +6

      @@rudrarajsingh6224 Sigmas can still be cheaters and cheaters still need to be called out...

    • @rudrarajsingh6224
      @rudrarajsingh6224 Рік тому

      ​@@therealbahamut Sigmas can be cheaters....
      hahaha
      Dude you're saying you can get head and tails in the same toss
      You can either be a man or a pussy at a given time, you can't be both... my friend :)

    • @jackmagnium6115
      @jackmagnium6115 Рік тому +5

      @@therealbahamut sadly that can cause a whole lot of back lash. i had it happen to me a few times. most times i did win and stomp em to the ground. sadly that just made me a bigger target to a point i fried 3 previous laptops. mind you im a US local elite class shooter in a few FPS roblox games. as for people to fight against. very few cause im way too good. even for someone who loves doom eternal and call of duty

  • @m4phew325
    @m4phew325 2 роки тому +447

    This is terrible. Props to you for doing something about it, hope this gets resolved.

  • @Majima_Nowhere
    @Majima_Nowhere 2 роки тому +30

    "Yes, I got a time 2 seconds faster than anyone else."
    "Of course I didn't clip it, are you crazy?"

  • @StevenA1
    @StevenA1 2 роки тому +390

    Glad you made a video on this to expose their corruption. Was about time people saw what really happens.

    • @gp8666
      @gp8666 2 роки тому

      UwU

    • @stretchywings7178
      @stretchywings7178 2 роки тому +2

      Hi steven

    • @dobremihai8183
      @dobremihai8183 2 роки тому +5

      Hi Steven. Didn’t know you took part in this tournament. It’s cool to see you also became suspicious of them

    • @Shylo2017
      @Shylo2017 2 роки тому +1

      Hello all!

    • @dobremihai8183
      @dobremihai8183 2 роки тому +1

      @@Shylo2017 sup Shylo

  • @dairemccormack8205
    @dairemccormack8205 2 роки тому +403

    This is incredibly embarrassing and I'd never expect this from PTG. It's such a meaningless thing but it's just the shear pettiness of what they did it makes this hilarious to me

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому +6

      Fancy seeing you here fella 🤝

    • @PointonMedia
      @PointonMedia 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I didn’t expect it from such a well known team on forza. Tragic to say the least 😂

    • @ItzAnonyms
      @ItzAnonyms 2 роки тому +3

      @@SGR_Blackout fancy seeing you here as well mate 👀

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому +2

      @@ItzAnonyms Small fucking world LMAO

    • @ChummyChum18
      @ChummyChum18 Рік тому +1

      @@SGR_Blackout look at this guy

  • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
    @vaulthunterfromterra4053 2 роки тому +222

    Makes you wonder how many other events they’ve cheated in

    • @TheIdealtrash
      @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому +36

      Bad enough they can select other PTG members as winners in livery and photo comps.

    • @afatchimp
      @afatchimp Рік тому +18

      @@TheIdealtrash The host (or host organization) should never be eligible to enter the tournament. Flawed from the start.

  • @thomasg6849
    @thomasg6849 2 роки тому +229

    this is sad that they work with forza themselves and they never noticed... i feel like every time should come with a replay file saving the inputs of the driver as well as the environement we play in. Then (if possible) having a way to simulate these input so the game would know if it is doable with the game physic and car upgrade/tune

    • @ReVDeatH
      @ReVDeatH 2 роки тому +37

      Aka the recently discovered thing in Trackmania Speedrun community. Yeah it should be a thing.

    • @thomasg6849
      @thomasg6849 2 роки тому +22

      @@ReVDeatH ye i play trackmania and my idea is basicly trackmania system

    • @MattAutoMotive
      @MattAutoMotive 2 роки тому +9

      Well having heard this story I'm not convinced that they are actually working with Forza and the likes of Turn 10 and Playground Games. After this story my analysis indicates that they were just claiming to work with Forza and I believe they didn't even colab together at all because Turn 10 wouldn't allow it they would have put an end to it before it even began.

    • @chrisg.2962
      @chrisg.2962 2 роки тому +1

      @mo gamer because a Forza team wanting to put on a challenge it's the same thing as people organizing leagues. You get to do something in the community.

    • @Sergeeeek
      @Sergeeeek 2 роки тому +5

      Most likely not possible. Trackmania is built from ground up to have deterministic physics. In most other games you have a non-deterministic physics engine in 95% cases. They'd probably have to rework the whole physics engine to make that possible.
      Without determinism you can't make an input replay system.

  • @audi-71830
    @audi-71830 2 роки тому +98

    why am I not surprised in the slightest that a team supported by forza themselves does this?

    • @recon1673
      @recon1673 2 роки тому +8

      Probs got a buttload of legit fast runs from their team and tossed it at PG and after a while PG probably Said "fuck it" and started working with them lmao

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 2 роки тому +15

      Because they will ban you for track cutting when you are a top 50 driver (like me) in FM yet, do nothing about the real track cutters

    • @mazyata9958
      @mazyata9958 2 роки тому +13

      Nobody should be surprised. The whole team are scoundrels.

  • @SplaysRacing
    @SplaysRacing 2 роки тому +125

    I’m glad you exposed them. Absolutely hate groups that do this… and they’re supported by FH5 devs! What the hell!

    • @bubbleman2002
      @bubbleman2002 2 роки тому

      FH5 devs are shitheads too, are you really surprised?

  • @Lt_Coldstream72
    @Lt_Coldstream72 2 роки тому +67

    After getting the Forza Community Team Message today where they try to push a PTG Peel P50 livery on us I just had to go and submit a ticket on this topic. I did use both your vids from YT, Sepi, as evidence... I hope it was ok.

    • @AndrewAyew2010
      @AndrewAyew2010 2 роки тому +4

      Well done, LT 👍👌

    • @ReVDeatH
      @ReVDeatH 2 роки тому +5

      Anything to stand on the moral side is a good thing, good job dude!

  • @shogunmyoung9932
    @shogunmyoung9932 2 роки тому +74

    Man these Forza teams are a mess. Toxicity, lack of order, and now even cheating over some prizes that aren't even real money. It bothers me a lot and that's why I don't join any team or do any competitive FH5 stuff. Also I'm glad that you decided to speak for your own interests and stand up for your beliefs and not let other people control or silence you. You are not just a good racer but also a wholesome person and content creator. Thank you very much Sepi.

    • @seP4
      @seP4  2 роки тому +30

      yep pretty much every competitive community is toxic without supervision

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 2 роки тому

      @@seP4 I have a friend who is an admin at Team Wars said to me how it was like and him alongside two other people advised me to not join there. He also decided to step out of competitive FH5 as well. It's unimaginable how bad it is

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 2 роки тому +6

      I'm also confused why they decided to create a route that is exactly the same as one of the default tracks but without any walls. Maybe they want to see who is the best at cutting corners and cheesing tracks? Only they will know Ig

    • @coltonperkins4424
      @coltonperkins4424 2 роки тому +1

      @@seP4 create your own team and challenge them in the future 💀

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 2 роки тому

      @@coltonperkins4424 That would be interesting

  • @denm6893
    @denm6893 2 роки тому +167

    PTG, you should be ashamed. Can't say it surprises me though. A lot of people in this game, teams included, are extremely toxic. Even just drag racing I've had people message me out of frustration to loosing over a damn game. I've been a forza player since the motorsport 2 and I'm in my 40's now, I just play and tune for fun. I'm starting to play less and less of forza these days, just not as fun anymore. Thanks for putting this out there Sepi, I enjoy your tunes and content. Hopefully PTG will deal with consequence for the crap they pulled here.

    • @Morpheus-pt3wq
      @Morpheus-pt3wq 2 роки тому +4

      Toxic community is not just in this game. Every online game suffers from this same issue. The reason is outside of gaming, in the real world - the society is getting polarized, as people cling more to their "saviors" (a.k.a. manipulative people, who just use simple "divide and conquer" against us).

    • @imrevig7261
      @imrevig7261 2 роки тому

      I remember when a whole ass team or idk whatever it was racing with old cars like the eight-six and old nissans and started butching around when my E.D.R (this electric volkswagen) was faster sideways

    • @infiniteblaz3416
      @infiniteblaz3416 2 роки тому +7

      @@Morpheus-pt3wq Let’s not double down and generalize. Yes there’s toxicity everywhere but every community varies in level of toxicity which Forza has it the worst.

    • @Morpheus-pt3wq
      @Morpheus-pt3wq 2 роки тому

      @@infiniteblaz3416 yeah let´s not generalize and start comparing, because your game surely has the worst community.
      This isn´t a competition.

    • @infiniteblaz3416
      @infiniteblaz3416 2 роки тому +2

      @@Morpheus-pt3wq No one said it was a competition homie. Lmao. You acting like there isn’t different levels of toxicity within every community. Some communities are more tame than others. You must’ve been the most rejected one in any past communities you’ve been a part of huh? Lol.

  • @Spherz
    @Spherz 2 роки тому +30

    PTG = Past Tense Gamers
    It’s sad that the Forza community has come to this man...

  • @patrickporter8128
    @patrickporter8128 2 роки тому +55

    Good work sepi he's well exposed. 👍

  • @crazycjk
    @crazycjk 2 роки тому +59

    I mean the only plausible reason I can think of as to why you'd even cheat in your own competition with in-game rewards, is someone's colossal ego?

    • @TheIdealtrash
      @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому +25

      Ever interacted with any of them? Give it a go sometime, you'll see how right you are.

    • @imrevig7261
      @imrevig7261 2 роки тому

      Okay, i often do the same in minecraft servers that i ask for an entry prize and choose my alt account as a lucky winner but man, in a racing game? They probably have like hundreds of millions already, and its literally people trying to be the best here

    • @WSX-
      @WSX- Рік тому

      That and they always have pulled this off in an attempt to silence legitimate players. It's literally getting out of hand.

  • @AlexDD99
    @AlexDD99 2 роки тому +29

    Thanks for sharing! I hate every kind of cheating in every online if not competitive game. If they want to cheat they can do that in single player. That will destroy only there own game experience. Publishers have to punish cheaters to protect the normal fair players 👍

    • @imrevig7261
      @imrevig7261 2 роки тому

      I dont get the point of competetive racing online but idk, perhaps its just me..
      cheating just doesn't spark joy in csgo either

  • @KozmoPoly
    @KozmoPoly 2 роки тому +10

    I'm completely outside of the loop in these matters of Forza competitive teams and prize competitions, I barely play the game, I never knowingly watched a video of yours before, meaning it was by pure chance that youtube recommended me your video. After reading a few comments I just felt compelled to say: You came off perfectly reasonable in my opinion, it seems like some people are saying awful baseless things about your community and yourself, and I believe they should be dealing with these bad actors instead of telling you to delete the video, or saying your community is bad. I hope you keep the video up and end up getting some kind of response
    Have a good one.

  • @ClagtT
    @ClagtT 2 роки тому +6

    Had to watch again just to make sure the guy really says "It's entirely possible I mis-clicked the downloaded tune". That's a keeper. Nice job calling them out.

  • @elnicolas4733
    @elnicolas4733 2 роки тому +13

    It's sad to know that there are people who cheat in their own tournaments...

  • @fulldiesel1234
    @fulldiesel1234 2 роки тому +18

    Forza Devs themself wont go after cheaters nor do they delete cheated/glitched leaderboards. has been a thing for forever, they rather go for some cool blokes who create some animu tiddie liverys or whatever is offensive to them on that day

    • @StevenA1
      @StevenA1 2 роки тому +1

      Couldn’t have put it better myself. They don’t care about clear cheating and glitching that directly affects all players, but emphasize irrelevant exploits that shouldn’t have been there in the first place. It’s really messed up.

    • @nattyboro
      @nattyboro 2 роки тому +1

      After they went through and edited the life out of the music in FH4 I knew T10 had zero backbone. And yeah those leaderboards are a perfect example

    • @christiantaylor1495
      @christiantaylor1495 Рік тому

      Putting nudity on a wrap is degenerate and they're right to go after you for it.

    • @christiantaylor1495
      @christiantaylor1495 Рік тому

      @@nattyboro The leaderboards don't matter. You can tell by common sense a 1 second lap time is fake

    • @StevenA1
      @StevenA1 Рік тому +3

      @@christiantaylor1495 So does that justify hundreds to thousands of cheaters on majority of the leaderboards? And nudity on a paint job is an extremity, which I absolutely agree should be taken action against as well. Leaderboards do matter, and often times cheated scores come very close to legitimate scores, so it is hard for people to tell sometimes.

  • @nicks_wild_life
    @nicks_wild_life 2 роки тому +14

    Stuff like this happens ALL THE TIME, luckily they did it to the wrong person who had enough of a following, the right equipment, and recorded everything.

  • @nikifalcon
    @nikifalcon 2 роки тому +7

    That's much in the same vein as Playground themselves
    When they realised they couldn't fix the FH4 exploit and started banning people for using it
    And when I brought it up during one of their streams I was banned from commenting on it

    • @dexketristo2349
      @dexketristo2349 Рік тому

      ... So Playgrounds Games are being cunts about this stuff instead of admitting outright that the game has a major series of problems? That's just not cool.

  • @No-vq1iv
    @No-vq1iv 2 роки тому +7

    The gift that keeps on giving, glad I went back to FH4/FH3. If nothing else at least I don't have to deal with game breaking updates every month.

  • @TheIdealtrash
    @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому +28

    "ChAtErS Be ChEaTeRs!" - PTG, every time someone mentions a mod, even if it doesn't harm the game.
    LOL.

    • @ChaserX90
      @ChaserX90 2 роки тому +7

      PTG come across as very elitist and snobby, in my limited experience talking to those high up PTG members, I haven't got along with many of them

    • @TheIdealtrash
      @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому +4

      @@ChaserX90 Neither have i, and full disclosure - even the very first interaction i had with any of their members, on 3 different platforms as 3 different tags totally different from each other was negative, purely based on my stance on the topic in question in said places. They are very VERY quick to talk down to the playerbase of a game they are supposed to represent in a positive way.

    • @FakeJeep
      @FakeJeep 2 роки тому

      "Me doth think he protest too much"

    • @TheIdealtrash
      @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому

      @@FakeJeep Sorry, i don't follow?

    • @FakeJeep
      @FakeJeep 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheIdealtrash It's from hamlet. It means they protest so much that it indicates guilt on their end.

  • @bertramlauritsen7366
    @bertramlauritsen7366 2 роки тому +10

    really frustrating a well known forza team member is cheating in their own event. they have screwed up big time. this video really puts them in hot water

  • @mrfourtwenty8506
    @mrfourtwenty8506 Рік тому +1

    you gained a sub, love it when people are called out for shady goings on

  • @KYOR1X
    @KYOR1X 2 роки тому +5

    At first you beat em, second you destroyed em. Congratz SP4, cheers.

  • @saultknutz1166
    @saultknutz1166 2 роки тому +5

    I mean his name is Outlaw, so I wouldn't expect him to follow the rules, lol

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 2 роки тому +10

    The Developers would be very wise to OFFICIALLY distance themselves from these people. They are bad news. if you see this thing now, imagine how many times they have played this "game" before.

  • @talhakhan6729
    @talhakhan6729 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for all the great tunes bro, they've helped me dominate online. You've done more for the community than these chumps

  • @FranklySean
    @FranklySean 2 роки тому +4

    Exactly what I would expect from someone directly involved with the PGG devs.

  • @TNR_Blade
    @TNR_Blade 2 роки тому +6

    I took part in their FM7 GT4 championship a little while back. Never saw a hint of this sort of thing. This is also part of the reason why I avoid FH5 events. There's just too many ways to cheese these things, ESPECIALLY with an honesty system.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 роки тому

      PTG is clearly a shithole hellscape

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly, Forza Horizon games and HLC/rivals events are really easy to chest in. Races and leagues, you can't really cheat in. That's why I haven't noticed too much wrong with PTG, I've only done FM7 events with them

  • @snakeman1141
    @snakeman1141 Рік тому +3

    I don't play Forza, I don't watch Forza videos but PTG give this man his recognition!!!

  • @TheStinkmissile
    @TheStinkmissile 2 роки тому +8

    Wow I’d never expect this from such a legendary club. That’s extremely embarrassing! Thanks for spreading awareness! Let’s get these shady dorks out of the gaming community!!

  • @BravePro
    @BravePro Рік тому +1

    This made me think of an old thing I had won. It was a minecraft weekly payout grind server. Every week someone "won" money. I saved up for like a month and won a week by myself. I was accused of cheating and although I had multiple people vouch for me I still got banned and didn't receive my prize. And all that because of lying owner. A lesson to be learnt here I guess. Good on you for exposing them. Hopefully that ruins their relationship with the devs and runs their reputation into the ground.

  • @ReVDeatH
    @ReVDeatH 2 роки тому +44

    Well, there goes my support towards the team PTG. I removed all of the downloaded tunes/liveries made by PTG members. I also advice people to do the same. Thanks for this video. They fucked up.

    • @jackmagnium6115
      @jackmagnium6115 Рік тому

      i would only keep it so i can use it as a "base" to modify from. i like to be strategic

    • @ReVDeatH
      @ReVDeatH Рік тому

      @@jackmagnium6115 And you can find way better reference tunes to build on from.

  • @ledooni
    @ledooni 2 роки тому +7

    If only the developers cared and banned his account from the game. That went way better in the Trackmania community where the cheating scandal caused the cheaters to lose their face (especially the guy who didn’t admit it) which made them disappear automatically. I guess Forza‘s audience is mostly just too casual to even care. Pretty sad but great job for uncovering this. Thanks a lot!

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому +1

      There's no ground to ban the account from the game. Yes, it was definitely wrong to cheat, but cheating in a competition doesn't mean banning the account

    • @ledooni
      @ledooni 2 роки тому +4

      @@N4SCARfaN
      I guess you‘re right in this case but I was also thinking about all those 6,000+ meter jumps at danger signs etc. where the devs unfortunately don‘t give a damn. They killed a very fun part of the game with that

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому +3

      @@ledooni Oh yeah, those cheaters can be a little different as that is tampering with the game's code instead of just normal cheating.

    • @w7u
      @w7u 2 роки тому

      Riolu moment

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому +2

      @@w7u Imagine using a slow-motion tool and still losing the world record to someone who didn't cheat 💀💀💀

  • @f4nste95
    @f4nste95 2 роки тому +8

    Everyone wants to win, and to be on the top no matter how. This is one of the examples and this is not only one game where this happen. That's reason way so many people left multiplayer games and switch to singleplayer gameplay. I left Horionz 5 when I saw unreal results on scoreboards in so many official different events

    • @imrevig7261
      @imrevig7261 2 роки тому +2

      Mate i didn't even bought fh5, even on fh4 there are unreal leaderboards, like someone literally has 1.1 million drift points on the mountain road on fortune island... my top with the rtr mustang is literally 480k, i get it that im not the best but i went down at least 100 times with that mustang :P

    • @f4nste95
      @f4nste95 2 роки тому

      ​ @Imre Vig Only difference is that FH 5 is game with perspective that microsoft not using. Because of that become fast boring and disappointing like so many other games

    • @badhabits8492
      @badhabits8492 2 роки тому +1

      Not even just the hackers man a lot of regular players are just as bad. Can't even remember how many times at this point people have rammed me. I can't even enjoy drag racing, the simplest type of racing FH has to offer. Got the guys who MUST ALWAYS be the one who starts the race to get that small launch advantage, then the guys who jump whether or not they're the ones starting. Can't forget my favorite type though. The (at this point) classic "oh your car looks kinda fast... *pulls out spec5/supervan/diablo/ect* , meanwhile I'm in a Buick or something.

    • @f4nste95
      @f4nste95 2 роки тому

      ​@@badhabits8492 I agree with you, Forza need to solve all this problems or every Forza game will die fast.

  • @damienlee1165
    @damienlee1165 2 роки тому +8

    I'm not surprised given how dishonorable and scummy people drive online. I wish the game had more serious players. Players will ram you all game then rage quit when they miss a checkpoint cause they were tyrning to run you off the track, seeing them cheat for some clout and wheelspins is just sad.

    • @dexketristo2349
      @dexketristo2349 Рік тому +1

      I witnessed that I. A Trial I was doing with a friend. Two guys kept trying to wreck everyone on the team and consistently were in dead last. They were probably trolls, but we won the trial. It was really stupid.

  • @senselesssock550
    @senselesssock550 2 роки тому +27

    SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! As if the inner child inside was capricious and could not admit his mistake and shortcomings on the track. I hope the stink from the act of PTG will scatter more. And you, SepiSP4, are a savvy person and make really great content and promote good tunes!

  • @RyuSwift
    @RyuSwift 2 роки тому +21

    Wasn't this the same people who made the Forza Discord a complete mayhem?

    • @saultknutz1166
      @saultknutz1166 2 роки тому

      Fancy seeing you here...

    • @RyuSwift
      @RyuSwift 2 роки тому

      ??? Hai Saul

    • @ReVDeatH
      @ReVDeatH 2 роки тому

      Why, what did he do?

    • @sabersz
      @sabersz 2 роки тому

      Oh hey Silver, it's Dank! When hasn't it been mayhem lmao

    • @RyuSwift
      @RyuSwift 2 роки тому +3

      @@sabersz Lol Hey Dank, yea nah these guys were up to no good for years.

  • @SGR83
    @SGR83 2 роки тому +1

    How do you find these competitions as would love to join in if it's open to the public n not invite only? I'm in the middle of trying to start up my own tournaments group and maybe playing in other tournaments could help me figure out how to get turn 10 or other brands to collab with the tournaments instead of me just hosting a random one lol ps I'd love it if you would join in one I do, there will be prizes for winners and other categories hope to see you in one pal keep up the awesome vids love ya bro

  • @shahbazkk86
    @shahbazkk86 2 роки тому +3

    Finally someone making a video about the cheating these big teams does and its not just ptg... they ruin everything for players like us... THANK YOU for making this video

  • @lohostege
    @lohostege 2 роки тому +4

    I say, all racing challenges need to require video.
    In (though in another game) a rally challenge, we where using lightweight, low power 2WD cars with either Open Diff, or locking diff (manual or automatic, not like a LSD). The person is 1rst place was leagues ahead, and was competing with times for the that stage World Record, against AWD High Power rally cars, yet the rest of us go totally different times. Couple of us where suspicious of him, since his time was absurdly quick, and he didn't give us any idea how he done it, and no video evidence.

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому

      I agree on video evidence. Would be incentive to do these challenges again.

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 2 роки тому

      I think only the top 5 or so runs really need proof video and tune tbh.
      1. to show newer players what they are doing wrong
      2. to actually prove what they did is possible
      3. to not hide good tunes from newer players.

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому

      @@0Synergy In all honesty, I think it would be fair if everyone would all get their laps reviewed with video evidence. It just makes the cheaters look even more tragic if they can't make top 5 💀
      I like the idea of showing other players the lines of the track and helping them improve. I reckon #1 should be the demonstration video for that.
      As for tunes.. well, unfortunately, people do like to reserve their tunes when they get the best times, but you do find some gems out there that do share the #1 tune for a track and it's great. I think that would be for a different category though, rather than being video evidence for hotlaps, maybe video tutorials for a separate channel on Discord?

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 2 роки тому +1

      @@SGR_Blackout True, but the reason I say that is how the finns I believe do rally its $500 for a car or so and at the end of the race if someone offers to buy your car you have to sell it to them.

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому

      @@0Synergy Oh yeah I heard about that actually - I think it was on Top Gear when James May went to visit Mika Häkkinen, iirc

  • @domodel01
    @domodel01 2 роки тому +3

    I didn't think a shitty little track I made would create so much controversy lmao

  • @TooFlyNico
    @TooFlyNico 2 роки тому +1

    Mans asked for a Peel P50 😂 3:17

  • @theriveracis5172
    @theriveracis5172 Рік тому

    Coverups and radio silence always mark things like this as untrustworthy.
    Good on you for following through

  • @usagijojo
    @usagijojo 2 роки тому +8

    Oh, so these guys are like the Twin Galaxies of Forza, then. Is PTG Outlaw their Billy Mitchell or their Todd Rogers?

    • @AdamHemi
      @AdamHemi 2 роки тому +4

      PTG Outlaw sets a 1:36.7 by launching the car on the second gear

    • @ReVDeatH
      @ReVDeatH 2 роки тому +1

      @@AdamHemi Just hold the clutch

  • @magikmike22
    @magikmike22 2 роки тому +8

    I have been a long time "supporter" of the ptg guys. But this is just bs. They way they just cover their tracks, delete stuff and basically "be a bitch about it" is unreal 🤦‍♂️

  • @schneir5
    @schneir5 2 роки тому

    It's kinda cool to see some of my old buddies in the screenshots from Discord, like Stephen. I uninstalled the app from my phone because I kept getting random messages about cars in FH4 lol

  • @Validonelo
    @Validonelo 2 роки тому +1

    Sherlok homesssss is hereeeeee nice job dude

  • @thelmanbergian6309
    @thelmanbergian6309 2 роки тому +7

    Why would you even cheat in your competition lol
    Good job on exposing him man

  • @donzokik
    @donzokik 2 роки тому +9

    Yet it ain’t the 1st time PTG got caught cheating

    • @username.
      @username. 2 роки тому

      What was the first?

    • @donzokik
      @donzokik 2 роки тому

      @@username. goes way back in 2015

    • @donzokik
      @donzokik 2 роки тому +3

      Their statement back than from PTG was “but you cannot punnish people for playing the game within its own boundries”

  • @davidhowell1415
    @davidhowell1415 Рік тому

    Sounds like they didn’t like you calling them out. Good on you for doing so

  • @sebastienribeiro3015
    @sebastienribeiro3015 2 роки тому

    Hi, firstly nice video ! Some cheats coming and it's unaceptable...
    I like whaching your videos to improve driving skills or funny videos :)
    But I have a question for you (in french sorry 😂)
    Si on modifie les paramètres graphiques du jeu (low ou ultra par exemple), est ce que cela change le ressenti ou le grip des véhicules ? Je me pose cette question, car cela pourrait être intéressant. Il y a une théorie comme quoi cela change sur Forza Motorsport 7 (sous la pluie, il y aurait plus de visibilité) 🤔 mais est ce que ce ne serait pas l'unique raison ?
    Est ce que cela modifie les chronos ? Ou les réglages ?
    Attendant avec impatience, Forza Motorsport 8 💪😁

  • @B-Diddy-6
    @B-Diddy-6 2 роки тому +15

    PTG has a ton of shitty painters and a few decent tuners. They're not that good. Good on your outing them on this behaviour.

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому

      Most PTG members aren't painters anyway. Fluex, Wildcat, and Stuzi are the painters I can remember from the top of my head. They're good. I don't know much about tuning so I can't answer on that front at all

    • @chrisg.2962
      @chrisg.2962 2 роки тому

      @@N4SCARfaN ptg really has never been good it's mostly been just platinum really

    • @SGR_Blackout
      @SGR_Blackout 2 роки тому

      @@chrisg.2962 I feel bad for Platinum - him and I have a good history and dude has a good heart/driving skill on him. Hope he finds a better place.

    • @N4SCARfaN
      @N4SCARfaN 2 роки тому

      @@chrisg.2962 I wouldn't say they're not good, there's more than just Platinum too. Now I've been a bit out of the loop in the PTG league racing team situation so I can't tell you anyone else, but they made A lobby at Le Mans last year if I remember correctly. They're mostly nice guys, I chat with them about some general things and some of them are always ready to give you a bit of advice for life or encouragement. On the Forza side, some of them aren't very good at racing or painting and they know it, but they have fun racing other people so they keep doing it.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 2 роки тому

      Um, PTG has a lot of good, fast, cleaner drivers but quite a few of them are rotten apples making the rest look bad sadly.

  • @knightfall7534
    @knightfall7534 2 роки тому +4

    I wish forza would take the integrity of their game seriously. If I were in charge, I would have an investigation launched immediately and every members accounts temp banned until they can prove every one of the prizes went to rightful winners and that their claimed times are legit. Pathetic. I hope they get audited.

  • @mateusv.farias2503
    @mateusv.farias2503 Рік тому

    I love u, Sepi! Awesome work ❤

  • @psykology9299
    @psykology9299 2 роки тому

    The Waybackwhen machine might be able to find those deleted channels

  • @Fo1kz
    @Fo1kz 2 роки тому +2

    Look like i need a lot of popcorn.🍿🌝

  • @joeblack4849
    @joeblack4849 2 роки тому +5

    4 mln credits lol, it is not even 1 rare car in the auction house, looks like they lost connection to the PGG and pretending everything is allright

  • @cboyslim5490
    @cboyslim5490 Рік тому +1

    "why would i have saved a clip" is my all time favorite PTG outlaw quotes

  • @skunkyfunky
    @skunkyfunky Рік тому

    Good work. New sub here.

  • @pwnograffik
    @pwnograffik 2 роки тому +5

    Did you reach out to Turn 10? I don't think they would want a team representing them like this and it doesn't paint them in a good light either.

    • @oliveoil1417
      @oliveoil1417 2 роки тому

      Don't think T10 would listen to someone they know hacks their game lol.

  • @djamaltasniah5122
    @djamaltasniah5122 2 роки тому +9

    #JusticeForSepiSP4

    • @seP4
      @seP4  2 роки тому +9

      prizes didn't matter. maybe t10 should bring ptg to justic

  • @mrfourtwenty8506
    @mrfourtwenty8506 Рік тому

    34k subs and 15k likes these numbers speak volumes... keep up the whistleblowing mate

  • @wakosfliptable
    @wakosfliptable 2 роки тому

    More people need to see this, especially MS

  • @austinpeterson4898
    @austinpeterson4898 2 роки тому +2

    I just wanna say I’ve been using your Subaru S209 a class road tune a lot and I win just about every lobby I enter with it. Phenomenal tune. Do you think you could make a B class tune for the 06 wrx sti similar to that for road racing? I’ve been trying but I can’t get it to slide enough in corners like the S209 to negate the understeer. Maybe it just doesn’t have enough power to do it. Thanks for all your hard work.

  • @Angrynood
    @Angrynood 2 роки тому +7

    Out of curiosity, are there any interesting Forza Horizon groups that are worth joining? In my experience so far the ones I've joined have only had assholes.

    • @TheIdealtrash
      @TheIdealtrash 2 роки тому +1

      Heh, I'm a part of the discord for the painter tool mentioned, and it's one of the most fun places i've been a part of in any racing game related group yet - and i've been a part of a lot of them, seen a lot of toxic shit... Painter discord though? We banter, we chat, we share our work, we beef race with each other. It's good fun as long as you go in there open minded and ready to understand it's morally loose and very free in terms of expression. We do and talk about whatever the fuck we want, it's certainly no facebook group with shit rules.

    • @saultknutz1166
      @saultknutz1166 2 роки тому

      Skippy 4631 is a good one

    • @jessies.4589
      @jessies.4589 2 роки тому

      @@TheIdealtrash in short , get a life and save your time

  • @derekr3895
    @derekr3895 Рік тому

    Long ago I played in a miniature online-only rainbow six vegas (I think it was this title) hosted by ubisoft / gamespy. They had the "PMS" clan play against any randos that could join their server in time. Any winners were supposed to receive $500. I won it, my buddy won it, and countless others won it - as the PMS clan got their asses handed to them the entire duration of the competition. Most of the entrants didn't get paid and ubisoft / gamespy eventually just went radio silent on everyone. Very professional.

  • @msmart9454
    @msmart9454 Рік тому

    I'm your old fan, thanks for updating the program so honestly! You are a hero to me! Yoom view bot king! Definitely the best in the business

  • @ttr_coco
    @ttr_coco 2 роки тому +10

    I'll admit I'm not a big fan of yours, but you're 100% in the right here. It's a shame PTG is such a snobby and elitist club, can't recall many pleasant discussions I've had with any PTG members, outlaw was average pace on fh4 and there's no way a "tune suited to the driver" (common PTG saying to explain why bad upgrade choices and poor tuning is better) could possibly get close to that time, especially with him driving.
    Edit: as if Outlaws claim wasn't ridiculous enough: the world record on the Descansar Sprint in S1 class is 1:33.4 by GRF DaaNz, according to Outlaws claim he was only 3 seconds off an actual world record in an objectively inferior build for the LFA

    • @saultknutz1166
      @saultknutz1166 2 роки тому

      Coco!! Miss ya!@

    • @ttr_coco
      @ttr_coco 2 роки тому

      @@saultknutz1166 Hi Saul, how have you been man?

    • @saultknutz1166
      @saultknutz1166 2 роки тому

      Been good hbu?

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 роки тому

      why aren't you a fan? curious idk

    • @ttr_coco
      @ttr_coco 2 роки тому +4

      @@roboticvenom1935 Of Sepi? I am really against using the detailed setup finder and basically reuploading tunes made by other players.
      Got no problem with using it to learn what works and what doesn't, but reuploading other people's hard work is kinda scummy, especially when console cannot do anything like it

  • @scrappycoco3687
    @scrappycoco3687 2 роки тому +2

    Looool. So embarrassing for this team. People should know this scandal!

  • @Star_cab
    @Star_cab 2 роки тому

    Some good fore thought to document eveything.

  • @robbenog6021
    @robbenog6021 2 роки тому

    I think that 1st place guy has DRS and ERS on the whole time attack

  • @DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984
    @DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984 2 роки тому +6

    There is no game anybody can play without a cheater ruining it for otherwise stupid and unusual reasons. Is it that hard to just have fun in a game and play legitimately?

  • @MidnightMechanic
    @MidnightMechanic 2 роки тому +2

    Treat it like any speedrun. Video or it didn't happen. This is all about pride and ego, and PTG just wanted to come out on top.

  • @Spirosion
    @Spirosion 2 роки тому

    bro i hate it when shit like this happens and I cant do anything

  • @Cyrax_LK4D4
    @Cyrax_LK4D4 2 роки тому

    Pls more stories like this

  • @agentdiamond9211
    @agentdiamond9211 2 роки тому +3

    Sepi exposes Big Forza

  • @necbg8188
    @necbg8188 2 роки тому +2

    Thats sad story bro. But can be worst.. i just got banned for ramming a hacker 🤦

  • @canadian7558
    @canadian7558 2 роки тому

    That's epic great work

  • @Just_Drepper
    @Just_Drepper 2 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see FH developers reaction after seeing this video

  • @konradjaworski3222
    @konradjaworski3222 2 роки тому +4

    The whole Forza community is going to shit just because people want to be correct and claim that they are legit, good shit for calling this stuff out mate

  • @noivern8869
    @noivern8869 2 роки тому +1

    What a great community :-)

  • @RealButcher
    @RealButcher Рік тому

    Djeeezusss... how does this end? Damn.

  • @GrandoSilver
    @GrandoSilver 2 роки тому +10

    I hope PTG's reputation will never be the same again.

  • @fishlinz2450
    @fishlinz2450 2 роки тому +3

    does turn 10 know abt this??

  • @agudgorl
    @agudgorl 2 роки тому +2

    So basically, cheating on a time trial is okay, but third party livery software isn't? That's some backwards logic if I've ever seen it.

  • @pakistanipunjabilog6410
    @pakistanipunjabilog6410 Рік тому +1

    I see you are a man of culture as well

  • @lucky7th331
    @lucky7th331 2 роки тому +4

    Bro I've been in the forza community for a couple years now as a photographer and basically it's all children, so much drama for so little and all the teams are pretty fishy in one way or another (I'm sure there are exceptions dont kill me plz)

  • @raccooninadress4758
    @raccooninadress4758 2 роки тому +8

    lol how embarassing

  • @vinvinudu77
    @vinvinudu77 2 роки тому +1

    30 years old, no wife, no job, no future, living with his parents, discord mod, spend 500$/month on onlyfans and sometimes cheat on videogames.
    The dream

  • @alias7goldenletters
    @alias7goldenletters Рік тому

    turn 10 needs to know about this

  • @Suimin03
    @Suimin03 2 роки тому +6

    lmao