Try the REAL Zorn Palette On Your GRIMDARK Minis
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- This week I paint a gritty warband for my games of FORBIDDEN PSALM using only brush and a limited palette! You can find more than 4 hours of REAL TIME footage on my Patreon! ► / notjustmecha + check all the links below!
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I love how Italians sing the English language. I never get tired of hearing him say 'modulation!'
The red light effect on the wizard looking dude looked so realistic that i first thought you fotografed them with a actual red light to the side.
Subscribed for the accent, stayed for the content.
Thank you Marco, your videos are entertaining and inspiring! I use the Zorn palette as a sort of "palette" cleanser between projects and find it very relaxing.
I keep coming back to this video to rewatch it. It's such an inspiration to me, even though I still haven't tried to mirror your work in my own. I might finally have to give Zorn a try soon!
Alright... I came and watched this brilliant video again, and I took notes this time. About to embark on my first dabble into oil painting miniatures!
Bestiarum makes the absolute best fantasy minis. If I had to drop all my patreons, I'd still keep them.
The absolute king of oils on minis. Thank you for another master class.
The more I work with and see oil paints in action, the less enthusiastic I am about acrylic paints. There's so much to like about the process if you can handle the potential mess and cleanup stuff.
this is probably the single most useful and inspiring video on painting minis I have ever seen, among hundreds in my playlists; I shall try this, thank you so much for sharing!
You are a true artist with a deep understanding of colour. An understanding that most of us will never truly get. You can tell it's a real passion for you.
My Dad just salvaged a whole load of oil paints from the allotment shed, well chewed by slugs, since I've been talking about the amazing oil painting videos I've been watching on here and seeing this is really giving me confidence to try an entire new style of painting; so thanks for that Marco, your models always make me want to paint which has always been my least favourite thing to do, but perhaps for not much longer! :D
Thank you for continuing to place links on the corner when you use a technique you've taught before. Really helpful assuming it's a new crowd. Even having watched them before, seeing you apply the technique in a new way helps shed light on how it works. Great stuff!
Not only are these videos amazing and the results stunning, but your enthusiasm (and lovely accent) elevate them so much.
Yup, my next few models are going to receive that 'oil primer'! It's always amazing how with almost every video you manage to introduce a completely new concept or trick, mind blowing!
I love how these turned out. It's a beautiful balance of contrast and color while keeping the models looking moody and daunting. It's a true grim approach without Instagram filters and just slathering streaking grime on models! Well done man!
Yours is by far the most creative and enlightening mini painting channel in all of the UA-cams! I bow before your wisdom!
Thank you for all your videos ! Always a very good quality and such amazing technics. Thank you to share your tips, you make us progress so much !!
Marco, I have been binge watching all of your oil painting videos and they are incredible! You are a great teacher and I am very excited to try out oil paints for my next minis
Ahh yes, time for weekly fix.
Outstanding result once again, I have difficulty grasping how you get such phenomenal results in such a short time, even after seeing all of your videos.
I feel like I learn new ways to paint in every video, I don’t know how you do it. You’ve also convinced me to finally buy some oils. I look forward to putting all the information I’ve learned from your videos into practice, and continuing to learn in the future.
As a swede it pleases me greatly to see a painter of your caliber trying to emulate the style of Anders Zorn while painting miniatures. Well done Marco.
Thank you for keeping up with the oils, they really are my preferred medium now because of your work. Question wrt Metallic paints and preferred brands as the variance seems huge. Gamblin silver is amazing and its almost liquid metal in its consistency, but Gamblin gold has pigment you can see from space. I'm having decent results with mixing my own with the GSW pigments but wondering what your preferred brands are.
Never apologies for Grandulf - NEVER!
As always, great knowledge Marco, excellent work. Great tips on the freehand with oils, and I really liked the bases where the edge has been chipped away to add to the change in levels!
I'm so happy to see that you seem to stick to oil colours more and more. I've recently got my first tubes and started trying them out. It's something I'm absolutely not used to, but it's fun and rewarding and your constant videos help immensly!
YES! I didnt know if you followed these guys before but I mentioned them to you in one of your recent videos because I thought you would like the style of minis. But I am sure you were already following them. I LOVE!! Bestiarum Miniatures
I ordered some of these minis and eager to get that Knight of the Bells yet I had no idea they are part of a game, excellent painting done in a different way then I'm used to. Great stuff!
Awesome! You're videos have convinced me to start incorporating more and more oil paints into my minis.
You completely changed the way I look at painting now a days, although I am way more lazy and satisfied with lesser results then you are, my painting has improved dramatically , both in quality and quantity. THANK YOU! Now I just need to find a use for my old Vallejo game air set I really don't use anymore ;)
one word: AMAZING!
😊😁😊😘
I have this Dark Rituals fulfillment right here, and was just now pondering how to paint it. It seems as if your video came just a the right time! Thanks heaps, mate!
Wow, these are incredible paint jobs! I love your enthusiasm about everything.
wow can't wait to watch the in real time footage. Will definitely use this technique to my Empire models.
I wish you hadn't used the term "real zorn palette" when you are using a modified version. We all know that only palettes from the Zorn region are Zorn Palettes and the rest are just sparkling palettes.
Great tutorial with loads of interesting content - thank you.
Thank you for another great video! Marco, you have so many fantastic "speed painting" videos where the excellent quality is not sacrificed. Would you consider doing a video in this style for terrain pieces? GW (and some others) release terrain pieces now that are so detailed that they could really benefit from your approach to speed painting. Perhaps the terrain from the new Kill Team Octarius boxset would be a good subject...? And thanks again for all your great videos!
When he made his magnetic gaming board, he spray painted a bunch of GW terrain and it looked really good.
So good
Another great video Marco 😊 A pleasure to watch you work as always 😊
as always Marco awesome!!!, will have to try out this palette looks fun and loving YOUR results!!
Absolutely love the metal work on that plate armoured lad, I'm going to try and recreate it on my new stormcast from Dominion.
Amazing, Marco, many thanks!!!
Love your work Marco! So much that I’ve included you in my latest one. Haha
Your a master and have encouraged me to buy a heap of oils. I'd like to see you painting black armour with oil?!
Big fan of your videos, Marco. Most of the figures you paint have quite a lot of sculptural detail. I'd be interested to see how you paint simpler figures, which have little to no sculpted detail, and still maintain visual interest.
Whoa.....fantastic.
You are amazing Marco!
Suddenly I wonder how the silver would mix with Williamsburg's Payne's Grey Violet. This is still one of my favorite videos
5:25 I believe James Wappel uses a similar method with acrylics. You do need to work faster than with oils of course.
This is amazing! I started using oils recently, but haven't got the knack of it yet for miniatures.
I'm not sure if you are into games like Bolt Action or not, but I would love to see you tackle something like British Caunter camo on tanks in oils (mostly because I want a tutorial on how to do that, haha!). Honestly, I know you'd nail it.
At the moment I'm using oils on almost every model, but solely as weather/wash for 40k Orks. Gives them an easy Grimdark look and makes them nice and dirty. Orks don't wash!
Question: How long do you let the oil paints sit between painting them on and then adding brighter colors/texturing? I always find my textured disappear because they actually blend TOO much
Hi, I am probably late, but did you find an answer to that question?
I love this so much, on all levels...
5:08 Wow! Just that sketchy undercoat looks fantastic. The finished models are beautiful. That blood-red OSL is so very effective. How do you treat your oil painted minis after you finish with painting them? Do you need to leave them to dry before varnishing them? If so, how long do you recomend?
I love the look of those models, fucking awesome!
Man, did you know that Forbidden Psalm comes as a spin off of the multiple award winning RPG Mörk Borg? Have you tried it? Awsome vid btw
That's a jaded looking grumbledor ;)
I love the palette, the miniatures, and the paint job!! One question, which metallics did you use?
Might be those in Winsor and Newton's Artist's series oil paints.
Looks fantastic. I'd love to try and replicate this for Cursed City.
I have no history with art, have never painted a miniature, and barely have any understanding of color theory but
This shit lit!
I think instead of buying 150 bottles of paint and continuing to be ignorant of the deeper intricacies of color, im going to try to learn using this palette, maybe without the green and blue to start.
I dont know if you read these comments since the video is so old, but if you (or anyone else) is reading this, would you recommend pre-making mixed colors in empty bottles, or just use raw amounts from the beginning and learning as you go?
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! Super appreciated 😊 and welcome on board!!!
If you are working on big projects, like an entire army for example, premixing the key tones is a great idea that increases your efficiency and general coherence exponentially! Working on single models or small warbands you get more interesting and personal hues mixing on the spot (plus it's a lot of fun and a great learning the experience!)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJMoh thank God lol, based off your other videos I was afraid the consensus would likely be to blend rather than premix, and I was really dreading the impending headache of matching tones for a small army. Now I just need to pick between oils and acrylics... Thank you!
Ps. you're such a godsend lol, I've went on a marathon of your videos last night after this one, so many cool models and techniques. Highly appreciate everything you've done and do!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Amazing work!!!
Marco, I love your work with oils. Can you go into more detail sometime for alternatives to zenithal highlighting for people who do not have airbrushes? While it is very basic, it's difficult to sometimes understand these concepts without seeing them in action. Thank you so much for sharing your process with oils! I love it!
Also I'd love to see an depth look at enamels used as the primary paint for miniatures as well!
One of his value sketching videos shows how to zenithal with just a brush. I think it's the like 3 colors, 2 hours, 1 brush vid. His painting a large 3D printed mini video shows how to zenithal with spray cans.
Not seeing the grimdark playlist anywhere, am I just being dense? Also another incredible video as always! I've been doing some marvel crisis protocol minis with a lot of oils and it's been a great experience, thanks for the inspiration!
Yep, my pre-Like was justified. I especially like the tall bald mini - my eyes keep going back to him. I'm still wondering: do you varnish at the end to unify the finish (oil, acrylic etc)?
Awesome, as usual ! Really inspiring too. Marco, I understand this would be complicated to fit in your workflow, but I’d be really thrilled to watch how you plan and execute the work on a bigger piece (knight / greater daemon sized for exemple). Anyway, loving your vids, not missed one since I discovered your channel ;).
Check out his vid on the massive 3D printed mini. He shows the prep process, then used spray cans, oils, and acrylics.
@@MrAshutts I watched it, several times :). But it’s painted more like a terrain piece than an actual mini, there is not nearly as much details as in a more “humanoid” piece.
Aaaah... Wow😍
Well, it's not REALLY a Zorn palette without Mercury and elephants' tusks 😉.
And ground down mummy in the browns as well?
One hour before this I just found Bestiarum minis. Then this vid popped up on my feed.... welp now it's time to go buy some oils while these prints cure
Very interesting, I seen people paint models with full oils before but never this calculated approach of trying to emulate classical arts.
Love the content. Thanks
What if you prime the model and then fill in the metalic parts with shiny acrylics (dries fast) before you create the first oil layer? Oils are often very transparent (have learned that, the hard way xD) so you should be able to see the original silver but you can then add a variation of darker and brighter blue to really bring it to life. Or maybe red/brown on some gold or bronze?
stiltwalker, yes!
Those Bestiarum Miniatures are amazing!
I check out the site now/the links; it's gunna be hard to not buy all bundles!
Great video, I really like the incorporation of oils.
Questions: For the metalics, do you also mix them with oils to do the highlighting? Also, do you just use mineral spirits to thin the oil paints (to improve the flow when painting freehand for example), or do you use other mediums (Galkyd, Neo-Megilp, etc)? Appreciate it, keep up the great work.
the metallics are also oil paints.
If you want some good Italian metal, check out Mortuary Drape. I have no idea what they're saying, but I love throwing them on the playlist every now and then!
Also, you should get some lids from medicine or large juice bottles. Along with some sticky tac, you can use them as a paint grip so you don't have to worry about wearing gloves and getting paint on your fingers.
Cool as fuck models. I'll have to get a warband of my own for FP!
Okay. I've seen a lot of your videos talking about how great oils are, but this is the first time I've ever actually been convinced to try them myself. Specifically, around the 5 minute mark where you're cleaning up the base layer looks absolutely amazing already and could honestly be the end of the paint job for a comic book look. One question though: doesn't undiluted oil paint take forever to dry? I've heard it can stay workable for upwards of a week.
Genius!
Hey Marco, I'm curious -- what did you use for your metallic pigments? Confessedly, I'm a bit ignorant of oil paints in general, but in my limited knowledge I'm not aware of any metallic oil paints that spring to mind. Or did you jump back to acrylics there?
for me it looks like silver, gold and bronze oil paints. there sure are metallic oil paints on the market. (i'm using schmincke but thats only my preference/availability around here - having no trouble finding those metallics)
Damn I guess I need some oilpaints
Well, I now know how "Ilkhan The Bloody" is going to get done!
Love this Marco! Is there a good picture you know of showing this full expanded palette any where? Going to try this on my next project as i want to get better at mixing colors.
Thanks! Just Google, Zorn palette and you'll get an overload of info and visual tools; it's a foundational step of painting/atelier education so there's plenty of resources 😊
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks Marco!! I looked for the "expanded" palette for a bit before realizing there would be too many permentations lol
Found some good zorn ones!
@@errata2412 oh yeah, especially at the beginning, stick to the super limited classic one! Managing the black as source of "blue" is a great great exercise 😊
I have been watching your videos non stop and cannot thank you enough for this content and instruction. I use the information in these videos to assist me in my miniature painting journey. I was wondering if i could ask you a question? I am currently about to paint my first army - Alpha Legion - The scheme i am trying to achieve is from the cover of "Head of the Hydra" which shows the armour being a light turquoise, What colours would you suggest using for my shadows?
Nice!
Mr Marco, trust baby is doing well in these times. Say could you do some conversion/painting for the Soul Hunters 40k?
Really nice video! Do you have something like speed painting black armors? Ty!!!
I love those minis!
I'm about to finish my Angron conversion and wanted to ask how you would go about painting interesting, grimdark, red demon skin?
So question?? For acrylic paints a usually use vallejo line. Is there any reason I should change to what you suggest. I dont mind changing it just wanted to know if there was a difference. Also please keep up the good work. You are a massive inspiration for me too keep painting!
Would be interesting to see a comparison between 30€ per set paints and the 30€ per tube paints used in this video! 😂
this is amazing! Im just curious, is there a "cold" version of the zorn palette? Im doing some drukhari and I was thinking of doing some teals or blues on them as a prominent color for their armour
thanks again for the video Marco! keep up the good work ! :)
During the section with the colour wheel just move the shape over to the range of tones you want to use and work from there. :)
@marcofrisoniNJM Do you worry about the cadmium in the red, and other heavy metals used in some colours? (cobalt, lead etc) appreciate don't lick your brush with this stuff, but what about skin contact when gaming with them? These kind of paints being meant for canvas, and not to be touched after the work is finished.
Hey Marco- what metallics did you use?
What brand of metallic oil paints do you recommend?
Hey Marco!
I was wondering what metallic paints you used while working with oil paints? I haven't been able to source a set I really like.
I just made a video referencing this one, I hope you don't mind that I stole a picture as what I intended to archieve (but failed :))
Great video as always, can't wait for your next video, I'm always motivated to try new things when I see one.
This isn't related to this video, but I'm thinking about getting myself a blue and a red primer from Vallejo to mix purple and magenta primers (unfortunately I just found those in cans which I try to avoid now that I have an airbrush) to use as a base for a zenithal white highlight pre-shade. As you showed more than once in your videos purple and magenta are a better base than black for shadows when using certain contrast or other transparent colors. It feels a little like wasting color and time when priming black, highlighting white and then shadowing with purple when I could do this in two layers instead of three. What do you and all other painters think?
Sillt question but can I use the same oil paints that I would foe canvas work? I'm only a beginner on mini modela but your videos Marco are so inspiring and to want to give this oil gritty look try!!!
Oh yeah absolutely! All the paints I'm using here are classic oils for canvas from the art store 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I honestly was not elevating my newfound hobby idol to message!!!! I'm so excited for your next video
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Could I paint base colours with acrylic paint, varnish seal the model and then do the oil wash that you did for these models as highlights? I want to try it on Daemonettes from War Hammer, and if it goes well I'll do it to a Keeper of Secrets model too
Check this recent video for this kind of approach (and tomorrow's video😁 great timing)! You don't even need to varnish 😉ua-cam.com/video/b11HXbMfj14/v-deo.html
Are these figures inspired by ¨Blasphemous¨? They look beautiful
Oh yeah for sure! The guy with the pointy helmet and the shield is definitely a Penitent One
Hi, a question, perhaps trivial for you. After painting an oil base (black-brown) can I use acrylics on top?
Where did you get the metallic oil paints? id love to recreate this scheme on my ushoran!
Oggi ho dipinto la mia prima miniatura con i colori ad olio, e noto che faccio fatica a non lasciare i segni delle pennellate e mi sembra che i colori non coprano molto bene, cosa mi consiglieresti di fare? P.S uso colori della van Gogh e della Rembrandt
Is the first coat of oils over the zenithal thinned with white spirits?