As a steam locomotive crew member, I can tell you right now, this was staged. They were slowing down and speeding up on purpose. A steam locomotive wont lose speed that quickly on a failed stoker because whatever is still burning is making a sufficient amount of pressure. The injector issue, no big deal because the engineer has another injector on his side.
I doubt they would slow down/speed on purpose. It does happen on these races: ua-cam.com/video/5TPdhWTlFlU/v-deo.html Still, some of it seems too dramatic.
@@dejulesb7063 Because they're treating their engines like crap. Improper maintenance, and over stoking. It would be like you never changing the oil in you car, and driving everywhere with the accelerator mashed to the floor.
@@dejulesb7063 And also because they're treating the audience like they have no fucking clue what they're watching, while that maybe the case, just say "The Boiler Will Explode because they overstoked" instead of the retardedly vague "Losing the race will be the least of their problems!" Didn't know that BBC's treatment of Railways was the same in Australia.
It did in 1989 : ua-cam.com/video/8PP01Ci2E5Y/v-deo.html And also : ua-cam.com/video/7naevtuP2Og/v-deo.html Lots more of Flying Scotsman in Australia on UA-cam.
can't flying Scotsman is on a different track gauge so it will derail if it tried, the track next too them shown in some scenes is the SG track which is the same track gauge as Scotsman
I've always wanted to see someone restore the biggest steamers of each country and basically having an olympics for them: Fastest acceleration, fastest top speed, heaviest hauling capacity, etc. Lots of people think that some of the larger/faster steamers of other countries could have beaten the Mallard had the companies cared more about setting records.
This looks fake as fuck. I also know, if double track is run with two steam trains simultaneousl, it’s mainly done to allow the people to get a nice close up view of a running engine by, well...... repeatedly overtaking one another.
Yeah I agree, they also say in the clip that if they don't get the injector from being un-jammed that the boiler would explode, which is fucking stupid since there's 2 injectors on basically all locomotives.
seemed rly cool until he started beating on it with a hammer. I get it, it's a race and the cameras are rolling, but being a steam engineer should come first and I don't think you're ever supposed to hammer on a fucking pressurized valve inside a steam locomotive but idk.
Over here, in Pommie-land we often used to refer to the said hammer as a 'Brummagem screwdriver'. As in 'If 'er wae 'ave it the fust toim, yose a bigger 'ommer'. (If 'she' - the precision made item under repair will not accept the replacement part, use a heavier hammer.....)
As a fireman on a couple of Swedish locomotives that have that exact same model of injector, I died of cringe watching this. If that were to really happen, you would never abuse it like that. It was so easy to tell that what he was doing was staged.
@@Dat-Mudkip It's most likely all for added drama, there is after all a "camera crew" on board too, and in any case as it's in NSW can't have a ex Victorian Railways Hudson beating a local engine on their own line.
Yeah, but the drivers ones don't often get used and can be pretty unreliable as a result. I dare say this was pretty well all staged garbage anyway, probably all that needed to be done was poor some cold water on the fireman's side one to get it to work, always one of the first things to do when they start to play up. Yes i have even operated that particular injector on that particular loco, all be it many years ago. Shes a lovely old girl and can really get up and go!
"Let's have a race, have a race, have a race Let's see who is the quickest Who can be the fastest On your marks, now get set, go Let's set a pace, set a pace, set a pace Let's see if you can catch me Let's see if you can match me so Let's have a race, have a race"
The only race I could consider successful was the 1980s 4449 and 8444 Race up Cajon pass. (Spoilers if you didn’t see it) Note: 4449 had a Hot bearing causing it to slow down. Both engines were oil fired
Good day. I'm from Poland and I really like the Australian rail series. I have already watched several episodes broadcast on Polish television. Great production. And I have two questions. What is the name of the cap that the drivers of steam-powered locomotives wear on their heads? (blue with a very large roof) and if and where can you buy one? Best regards
Hi, The hats shown are mostly versions of the standard Victorian Railways drivers cap from the steam days. Finding them can be a bit difficult. Occasionally they appear on ebay, or you could try contacting Steamrail who are the preservation group for a lot of the mainline steam locos in Victoria. They have a drivers cap listed on their souvenirs page but I dont know exactly what that one looks like. Go to steamrail.com.au and they should be able to assist a bit more.
Some engines were fitted with mechanical stokers, which would move the bulk of the coal required by the fire and were much easier on the fireman's back as it was only necessary to manually fire the corners and fill in any holes. It was common practice to fit them after the 1920s when the screw feed and steam jet table system was perfected. And every boiler larger than a tabletop model should have at least 2 methods of adding water, sometimes 3 or more.
Where can this b seen in full? Quest doesnt actually exsist anymore lol, its discovery and this episode isnt there. only season 1 which this isnt part of.
Surely the faster loco would eventually make headway and hold that? Watch a Pendolino v a 350 leave Euston, the 350 will take an initial lead, then will get overtaken comfortably by the much faster Pendolino. There won't be any tooing or frowing unless one of them comes under a signal check.
As an Australian who has seen both of these engines before (and seeing them being treated like crap) makes me sad. And also Railroads Australia is cringe
Brooo imagine legit train races, engines specifically built for racing pulling a heavy load and its up to the crew to control the engine the best to have the most speed, not anything staged like this
@@theflyingscotsman9902 if you didn't know the R class is from the UK (Glasgow, Scotland) R704 was put on static in Glasgow, but the Rs never run services in England because they were built only for Australia
I never understood the R7, thinking that it was the Flying Scotsman's Australian twin brother, since they look exactly the same. Apart from the color scheme.
Okay so the stoker gave you a bit too much and you call it a disaster? trying to introduce into the world of railroading won't get you anywhere when we all have the knowledge to prove you wrong.
Buzzy Gaming as someone who works on steam locos, this wasn’t faked, you can have runs where nothing goes wrong but your far more likely to have a run like this where you have a lot of small problems which is what these are, these issues were probably in a time space of about 3 hours, but for dramatisation they would have removed the time where nothing exciting went on
Australian rail track remains in the ownership of the people (State Governments). Public rail transport is State Government owned but some freight trains are private companies. All signal control is also government owned and operated.
Australian driver of 40 years here. More drama in each episode of this show than I saw in my entire career.
The manufacted crisis on these shows does get over the top.
As a steam locomotive crew member, I can tell you right now, this was staged. They were slowing down and speeding up on purpose. A steam locomotive wont lose speed that quickly on a failed stoker because whatever is still burning is making a sufficient amount of pressure. The injector issue, no big deal because the engineer has another injector on his side.
really? i was scared anything happen :/
I’m sure you can hear the driver say “mines not picking up either”
I doubt they would slow down/speed on purpose. It does happen on these races: ua-cam.com/video/5TPdhWTlFlU/v-deo.html
Still, some of it seems too dramatic.
It was all dramatised, I was working the train that day
Aidyn R761 Thank you for clarifying. I was just curious what was going on.
As someone that works on the railway in Australia, this show makes me cringe so hard
Match2100 why?
@@dejulesb7063 Because they're treating their engines like crap. Improper maintenance, and over stoking. It would be like you never changing the oil in you car, and driving everywhere with the accelerator mashed to the floor.
@@dejulesb7063 And also because they're treating the audience like they have no fucking clue what they're watching, while that maybe the case, just say "The Boiler Will Explode because they overstoked" instead of the retardedly vague "Losing the race will be the least of their problems!" Didn't know that BBC's treatment of Railways was the same in Australia.
@Martin Turner that's good, it would break my heart to see a loco suffer in agony.
Its awful isn't it.
Imagine flying Scotsman just came out of nowhere and joined the race
He did at one point in 1988
-"Look out f*cktards!" Flying Scotsman,1988.
It did in 1989 :
ua-cam.com/video/8PP01Ci2E5Y/v-deo.html
And also :
ua-cam.com/video/7naevtuP2Og/v-deo.html
Lots more of Flying Scotsman in Australia on UA-cam.
can't flying Scotsman is on a different track gauge so it will derail if it tried, the track next too them shown in some scenes is the SG track which is the same track gauge as Scotsman
This is in NSW, which also runs standard gauge.
Imagine if someone would build one brand new specifically built for racing
That would have been amazing!
Hmmmm
Imagine that but with a literally supercharged firebox
they did tho
I've always wanted to see someone restore the biggest steamers of each country and basically having an olympics for them: Fastest acceleration, fastest top speed, heaviest hauling capacity, etc. Lots of people think that some of the larger/faster steamers of other countries could have beaten the Mallard had the companies cared more about setting records.
@@TheDemocrab well the biggest we have here down under is VR H220 "heavy harry" thugh our most famous is NSWGR 3801
This looks fake as fuck. I also know, if double track is run with two steam trains simultaneousl, it’s mainly done to allow the people to get a nice close up view of a running engine by, well...... repeatedly overtaking one another.
Yeah I agree, they also say in the clip that if they don't get the injector from being un-jammed that the boiler would explode, which is fucking stupid since there's 2 injectors on basically all locomotives.
seemed rly cool until he started beating on it with a hammer. I get it, it's a race and the cameras are rolling, but being a steam engineer should come first and I don't think you're ever supposed to hammer on a fucking pressurized valve inside a steam locomotive but idk.
You would want to use anything you can get your hands on, an overheated engine can explode dramatically.
Dude most of the smaller problems on a steam engine can be solved by a hammer
Over here, in Pommie-land we often used to refer to the said hammer as a 'Brummagem screwdriver'. As in 'If 'er wae 'ave it the fust toim, yose a bigger 'ommer'. (If 'she' - the precision made item under repair will not accept the replacement part, use a heavier hammer.....)
"The R7" FFS put the crack pipe down, its an R class, specifically R 761. Don't think i could stand to watch an entire episode.
As a fireman on a couple of Swedish locomotives that have that exact same model of injector, I died of cringe watching this. If that were to really happen, you would never abuse it like that. It was so easy to tell that what he was doing was staged.
Yep....basic tool of Victorian Railway enginemen. Hammer, big shifting spanner and cold chisel.
Don't Australian locomotives have a second injector on the engineer's side?
Ssshhh! Don't say that too loudly! You'll scare away the idiots!
They do but both weren't working!
Almost every steam locomotive has a fireman and engineers injector
@@Dat-Mudkip It's most likely all for added drama, there is after all a "camera crew" on board too, and in any case as it's in NSW can't have a ex Victorian Railways Hudson beating a local engine on their own line.
Yeah, but the drivers ones don't often get used and can be pretty unreliable as a result. I dare say this was pretty well all staged garbage anyway, probably all that needed to be done was poor some cold water on the fireman's side one to get it to work, always one of the first things to do when they start to play up. Yes i have even operated that particular injector on that particular loco, all be it many years ago. Shes a lovely old girl and can really get up and go!
"Let's have a race, have a race, have a race
Let's see who is the quickest
Who can be the fastest
On your marks, now get set, go
Let's set a pace, set a pace, set a pace
Let's see if you can catch me
Let's see if you can match me so
Let's have a race, have a race"
More like lets see who can burst a safety valve.
The only race I could consider successful was the 1980s 4449 and 8444 Race up Cajon pass. (Spoilers if you didn’t see it) Note: 4449 had a Hot bearing causing it to slow down. Both engines were oil fired
This is dramatized beyond belief, but it's still entertaining.
Now this is my kind of show, racing steam engines
Loved the R class when it visited South Australia.
The cringe factor in this is off the charts.
Good day. I'm from Poland and I really like the Australian rail series. I have already watched several episodes broadcast on Polish television. Great production. And I have two questions.
What is the name of the cap that the drivers of steam-powered locomotives wear on their heads? (blue with a very large roof) and if and where can you buy one?
Best regards
Hi, The hats shown are mostly versions of the standard Victorian Railways drivers cap from the steam days. Finding them can be a bit difficult. Occasionally they appear on ebay, or you could try contacting Steamrail who are the preservation group for a lot of the mainline steam locos in Victoria. They have a drivers cap listed on their souvenirs page but I dont know exactly what that one looks like. Go to steamrail.com.au and they should be able to assist a bit more.
We have them made by the wife of a driver here, I don't know of anywhere to buy them. They are simply called an engineman's cap.
Thank you very much for your help. Look at the page provided by you. Thank you!
Stokers are not "Automatic"!; every steam locomotive has 2 forms of boiler feeding.
Some engines were fitted with mechanical stokers, which would move the bulk of the coal required by the fire and were much easier on the fireman's back as it was only necessary to manually fire the corners and fill in any holes. It was common practice to fit them after the 1920s when the screw feed and steam jet table system was perfected.
And every boiler larger than a tabletop model should have at least 2 methods of adding water, sometimes 3 or more.
it still has manual shoving
Where can this b seen in full? Quest doesnt actually exsist anymore lol, its discovery and this episode isnt there. only season 1 which this isnt part of.
This is from 'Railroad Australia' currently being shown on 7plus I think
@@garyb7075 do you know what episode? i couldnt find the reace on it? but thank you!
@VR Sofa sorry no I don't
lemme tell you they have two r class (soon 3) 1 d3 class 1 y class from the Victorian Railways (vr) 3 k class locomotives
Quest - why let the truth get in the way of a good story? (Well not that good!)
where can i watch this full episode?
Railroad Australia
Does anyone know if the D3's driver and firemen got the injector working again?
Surely the faster loco would eventually make headway and hold that? Watch a Pendolino v a 350 leave Euston, the 350 will take an initial lead, then will get overtaken comfortably by the much faster Pendolino. There won't be any tooing or frowing unless one of them comes under a signal check.
this video is actually upside down but they fix it
Imagine Thomas the tank engine sees this
Great sounding whistles on them loco's
VR short bell 5 chime
What episode and season is this clip from?
Don't know
I don't beleive that a D3 class locomotive could beat an R class
I think the D³ did win due the R class slowing down for the approach into Geelong
I love on how the Australians do this.
Specificly victorians, these are victorian trains in victoria
The boiler could fail NAH that thing‘s gonna explode they’re all gonna die
Why do you think they were quick on fixing it?
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.
that was ridiculous lol
rubbish
As an Australian who has seen both of these engines before (and seeing them being treated like crap) makes me sad. And also Railroads Australia is cringe
Imagine a diesel joins the race lol. Diesels in the rust with these talented engineers.
Not an expert, but steam locomotives ain't supposed to do that. This was definitely scripted...
Brooo imagine legit train races, engines specifically built for racing pulling a heavy load and its up to the crew to control the engine the best to have the most speed, not anything staged like this
Every one wants to see the Broadway limited with A K4 and the 20th century limited with a J3A race into Chicago one more time.
I wanna see that in America, steam engine race :)
If they can get permission from track control. we had to shut down all Up direction trains for this race
Can you make your videos little bit longer to walk this morning and make a part 2 of this room?😢
The incident is like The Ahooting Star from Thomas and Freinds
Would Your Rather (Risk Your Steam Train To Win Even Tho Its Breaking Down) OR (Stop The Race And Fix The Train?)
cringe m8 - Cencerely: Every Victorian Railways Driver & Fireman
Wish discovery+ usa had this episode such a shame we get junk
The R761 Hudson of the VR is the the best one in the class
We have the A4
Mallard !
@@theflyingscotsman9902 I know that
@@theflyingscotsman9902 The Fastest Steam loco in the world THATS NOT EVEN OPERATIONAL AT THE NATIONAL RAILWAY MUSEUM
@@theflyingscotsman9902 if you didn't know the R class is from the UK (Glasgow, Scotland) R704 was put on static in Glasgow, but the Rs never run services in England because they were built only for Australia
The white cap is a bit scary.
Whats with the hats?
to make it look like it's really how drivers worked on steam locomotives
thats way too reckless
World's longest drag race.
D3 639 and R761
should grabbed 2 shovels
btw this is in melbourne newport steamrail victoria tomorrow is the steamrail open day ill get to blow the whistle
I never understood the R7, thinking that it was the Flying Scotsman's Australian twin brother, since they look exactly the same. Apart from the color scheme.
R761 Hudson built by North British, product of U.K
Please can something like this in the UK!
Yes, I love steam train races
Pretty good video there I don’t like steam locomotives
Pushing them to their limits hmmmm think not.Lol
Yep...the fitters where never out of a job when they returned to the depot.
Okay so the stoker gave you a bit too much and you call it a disaster? trying to introduce into the world of railroading won't get you anywhere when we all have the knowledge to prove you wrong.
I thought the engineer sits on the right and fireman left?
Maybe it's like how you drive in the other lane in Britain.
On the GWR in Britain the driver goes on the right, as he should so you can keep an eye on both tracks.
You need to realise that there are other countries in the world besides the USA.
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 oh ya cause you guys are upside down
1:00 R761 I'M FAST AS F BOYY
i think its staged because of many bad events happeneing to close together
Buzzy Gaming as someone who works on steam locos, this wasn’t faked, you can have runs where nothing goes wrong but your far more likely to have a run like this where you have a lot of small problems which is what these are, these issues were probably in a time space of about 3 hours, but for dramatisation they would have removed the time where nothing exciting went on
thers another injector on the Drivers side
they said it wasn't working
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I love that manga/game.
Why doesn’t America do this!
Australian rail track remains in the ownership of the people (State Governments). Public rail transport is State Government owned but some freight trains are private companies. All signal control is also government owned and operated.
Ahhhhh stop are they trying to kill there passengers
I was on one of those trains
Is this true?
Probably not
@@Combes_ yeah lol
Same bro no way
I wish America would do this
WahBOooooooommmm!!!!! Hissssssssss ahhhhhh!!!!!!!
I thing the safety enging on the boyler
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the fakest shit I have ever seen. I'm so sick of reality tv.
What a load of crapp. Fake information to generate viewer excitement.
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Clickbait crap
Yo head built like clickbait
smells very fake
yeah how can you driving a fake steam locomotive?
I've never seen such an over dramatised load of rubbish in all my life. Totally staged to buggery.
Bloody rubbish, M8
It blew up
Did It Really?In What Episode?
BS
Guy don’t worry about global warming. Just have fun.
t16205 you do realised that it was a joke
so over dramatised