I really like "we will not let this be normal." Simply saying "This is not normal" seems like denial, and saying "this should not be normal" is a statement of preference, but "we will not let this be normal" is a statement with power and intent. It is transformative language at its best.
Normal precedes such things as legal rights, as smoking pot became "normal" and then proceeded to a process of legalization. So making fascism normal is a conclusive step toward official political power.
What do you even mean by a "white country" anyway, and why should I, a white person, care if there are any left or not? Is the fear supposed to be that if white people become a minority they will be treated the way minorities are currently treated? Because either that's an admission that minorities are currently treated poorly or it shouldn't be a worry at all. Otherwise what's the fear? As for white people an cultures, they're not disappearing any time in the foreseeable future, even in the unlikely event that "white countries" were to disappear. I mean, obviously those cultures will change over time, but they'll do that anyway. Take someone from London in 1450 and drop them into London in 1850 and they'd barely recognise the culture (and barely speak the language). I really don't get what the big deal is supposed to be.
Lots of things that are normal today was opposed by the mainstream a few decades ago. "We will not let this be normal" is a statement that holds absolutely zero weight on its own.
Wow I just discovered both of your channels in the last few days, crazy seeing you guys in the same place. I loved your takedown video of PJW’s views on modern art.
Science fiction bears are great! They get cybernetics and lasers and can maul a dumpster in less time tha... oh, wait, we're talking about different things, aren't we?
@@hhjsuskhs See, here's the flaw in your BS "white genocide" logic: Wouldn't that also "pollute" the other races too? Your genetic lineage would continue anyway, since your genes are getting passed down. The flaw, aside from it just being obvious bullshit, racist, and clearly not happening.
@@hhjsuskhs don’t conflate the philosophy of social Darwinism for evolution. If you’re going to perpetuate “ethnic purity”, at least make an effort to understand these basic distinctions.
@@hhjsuskhs social Darwinism is a philosophy pushed by Herbert Spencer who misconstrued Darwinian evolution which was later discredited and disavowed by Darwin. This philosophy was used by conservatives to advocate and promote variations of specific ideologies including ethnic purity, ethnic cleansing via imperialism and so forth based on supposed observations found in nature. Evolution on the other hand explains the biodiversity of life on earth with no definitive end goal or purpose in general and in the context of ethnic purity. If you’re going to peddle ethnic purity, stick to religion.
8:39 Holy shit, that dude is from my city. He was in a band that was pretty okay, but he eventually took over the page and attempted to make "white nationalist metal". He and his brother were arrested alongside a friend for shooting at a black man in florida after a richard spencer rally. It was wild to see so many in our town defending him as not being racist while many of us in the music scene were very aware of his proclivities. He was in charlottesville along with a few other musicians in our area that ive been made aware of. Someone appearing friendly and being awful in private is nothing new. Ted bundy SEEMED nice and manson was very charming. Dont let talent and skill pasted with a smile distract from the evil some may harbor.
Leo Howler theres alot more of him here than most of us openly talk about despite knowing. Its embarassing to even say so. I know guys whovs lost gigs and spots over it, so its not totally invisible i suppose.
and the thing is that he isn't even trying to seem 'normal' in public. the public perception has become so skewed that his nazi behavior is just seen as something that is a little less than 'normal' rather than completely fucking unacceptable
@@ladyfalcia same with pepe. he's just a frog bro, why can't we just take him back in our memes as a happy frog, like his creator intended. sure, some people use him in a shitty and racist way, but they also use tiki torches, and you don't see them being declared hate symbols. hell, it's already happening on twitch with emotes.
@@Alternate1234ify we should NOT be tolerent to harmful ideologies, unsurprisingly if we do it will only make us less tolerat toward the people who actually need our tolerance, the people who their very existence is deemed morally wrong by those ideologies. So, no, this is NOT normal.
Z. Zorost No, the problem is that the intolerant will take advantage of the tolerant and the tolerant society will be gone. Look up the Paradox of Tolerance if you're curious.
Z. Zorost that's not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that for a society too strive to accept all manner of races and peoples the one thing that society cannot accept is inherent unacceptance of races and peoples. Whether it's "competitive" or not isn't up for debate and honestly I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Edit: After rereading your comment, I want to be clear that the "ideologies" at play here are accepting people for their inherent worth and not accepting certain people due to some inherent factor. There is no other debate going on in what I'm saying. If that's what you're talking about than yes, for a society dedicated to accepting all people, the one kind of people that society cannot accept are people that aren't accepting of other people. Does that rewording help?
Z. Zorost No, it's not like that at all what you just did is a logical fallacy, and can I just take a step back and clarify that you are arguing for the right of people to be hurtful and prejudiced towards others? Because that is the only way you could possibly have a problem with this.
on the topic of people posting things 'ironically' i would like to point out a phenomenon: you ever see a term of slang, think its super weird, and start using it jokingly, only to suddenly find it a solidified part of your vocabulary that you use intentionally for some meaning? (sometimes that meaning is not what it was originally for, but the point is that you're still using it) its like that. if someone intentionally spreads those ideas via memes under the guise of it being ironic, if they convince others to do it too, the others might spread it to others in a similar fashion, and there's a chance it becomes ingrained in them. in this way, these ideas can become like a virus, thought-germs spreading from person to person, not everyone getting really effected by it, but some, and the asymptomatic infectees spreading it further. the word 'viral' can have both meanings apply at once sometimes
To expand on your "thought germs" thought germ, check out CGPGrey's video "This Video Will Make You Angry." he coined that term in that video (iirc) and explains in more depth how they spread, change, and evolve.
The word you're looking for is 'meme.' I'm not joking, that's literally what memetics is all about. Somewhat ironically, the word meme itself seems to have gone through a similar process.
@@festethephule7553 and it really sucks that that's what memes are because people will *immediately* stop taking the conversation seriously when hearing it
@@OneLikeOthers iirc, at some point during the George Floyd Protests some people tried to get #whitelivesmatter and other reactionary hashtags trending but a lot of kpop stans spammed them with fancams to make them unusable
@@OneLikeOthers whenever there’s a racist # a bunch of kpop stans meme it with kpop fancams(kpop groups dancing) to drown out the #. It’s honestly really funny
Note: If you buy Sargon's line that showing up early to take the front two rows of a panel and stare down the woman he's been leading a dogpile on for several years isn't harassment, you are being played. No, I will not argue about this with you in the comments.
"And you'll have to clarify that: Anything you say, no matter how insightful or well researched, is, ultimately, your opinion, and invite people to expand or push back on your ideas" Except the idea that sitting around doing nothing is harassment. That one is true for sure, no debate possible.
as whole i do enjoy your videos even if i dont agree with you but if you consider what Sargon did harassment then you need to reevaluate your personal definition of the word. "take down videos" only work if you can prove the persons argument wrong . "fashy" hair cuts are not a thing. those are only a couple of things i disagreed. but it was still a good well made video
dont blindly follow this guy, though he does try a bit to show both sides he is still very biased. there are many little things and connotations that he chooses to use which can change your opinion on things, also you got 138 likes thought id tell you
Halfway into the video, I was so engrossed by happy messages about the progress of the lgbt movement that it hit me like a truck when you started changing the topic to the alt-right again. I was like "oh yeah, totally forgot that I clicked on a video about the douchebags who think I don't deserve rights"
You mean like the islamists that throw homosexuals from rooftops? How do you think you’d have it in Catholic LatAm, West Africa, the Turkic countries, Russia, the Caribbean where they still have “buggery laws” and especially Dar-Al-Islam? I could keep going on and on, but you don’t know how good you have had it in the states. Keep on fighting windmills 😂🤦♂️
Oh, it doesn't really work though, from my experience most pyramidal-society-advocates (most of the right) either want the opposite to be true, or they say that no such thing as a human right should exist in the first place, so that saying becomes "an opinion" instead of "a fact", and it loses almost all the power it has.
Also, UA-cam won't let me edit on mobile, I was talking about the "Human rights are non-negotiable" phrase. The other one holds up intent much, much better!
just a quick note: the ironic usage of "triggered" was ALWAYS shitty and ableist. "triggered" is specifically a word used by neurodivergent people (particularly people w/ PTSD) to describe extreme and disproportionate negative responses to innocuous stimuli (like having a panic attack b/c the lights in your room are too bright, or having a flashback b/c someone touched you). the joking use of that term has systemically stripped language away from neurodivergent communities, which is unfortunately very common. it's almost the opposite of this... people keep on taking our language and using it as a meme. it's happened with "gaslight" too. it is very sucks :(
yeah, it sucks that "tirggered" and "meltdown" was used for twatter spats by political discourse journalist helped in watering down PTSD for having bad day and it went mainstream
The issue you speak of seems very powerful and baked into how language spreads. Repetition is a way that people remember things better, so for a word to reach widespread usage it will be repeated constantly, and if the majority of the people using the word are not part of the group that it was meant to cater to then the original definition will slide away. In other words, it seems inevitable that minority language once mainstreamed will not be as helpful for the minority group
i agree! just to clarify tho neurodivergent specifically refers to neurodevelopmental conditions (autism, adhd, and dyslexia for example) not mental illness or personality disorders most of the time
Unless you are a sociopath. Then it's the greatest time to be living in if you enjoy watching the world burn. The trolls won. We are living in their utopia.
We were warned in 2000 (when Al Gore got voted out of Presidency due to nepotism) but 2016 removed the lid. The unpunished Facists and Nazi around us don't feel pressured to hide anymore, because Trump made the visible. It's terrifying how many roaches were hidden under the centralism rock
I love your Alt-Right Playbook series. The waiting period between each video feels so long but honestly they're worth it. Keep making great content. You're great.
That is kinda scary...his videos are kinda bad source for learning rhetoric. He makes some big mistakes. I suggest you go else where for this kind of knowledge.
MurderousJohnny I find it extremely interesting that tons of people keep saying “He’s wrong and is making mistakes” but NEVER provide an example of what he got wrong and why it’s wrong. Makes ya think
god i fucking love everything about this. "They want to draw attention to themselves by any means necessary, up to and including violence [...] There is a man in a suit ready to distance himself from it." honestly 10/10
There's this tumblr story about how in ancient Rome one senator or something proposed that all slaves should wear a white armbind so they can be immediately identified as a slave. It was shut down because the nobles, correctly, assumed that as soon as the slaves knew how many they actually were, they would revolt. I don't know if it's true, but it speaks to what Delany described. It keeps marginalized groups isolated. Also I wonder if there ever were visual signifiers of slavery in history like we often see them in pop culture, collars, burn marks and such. I have to look that up.
This makes no sense as slaves were divided into class based on owner's wealth - some slaves could be better of than free man and thus some people would sell themselves to slavery to repay loans. Slave is a job, not a class.
@@aswfabt in some African countries the white people are marginalized groups - so it all depends on the in-group preference - the people behind the walls are always white walkers - wildlings at best
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 im suprised that i made these comments 3-4 months ago, cause I dont remember which countries I meant and I care less about politics now due economical crisis coming forward in my life than foreign affairs
IT is a technicality. People make mistakes. I really like this channel, but I don't hold it as some beacon of perfection. I view this brilliant channel as an awesome person explaining politics. No one can get everything right.
No, I stand by what I said. Showing up early to have you and your friends take up the front two rows of a person you have been spreading disinformation about online for years and have tacitly encouraged and directly profited from the harassment of is blatant intimidation tactics. Anyone buying his "we're just quietly sitting her" line is getting played.
Something that upsets me is seeing how many people follow Shadman and are just ok with him wearing the SS uniform, that’s fucking insane, peak normalization.
I don't know about you, but the actual porn Shadman draws is enough for me to stay away. And that's saying something since I've seen some crazy shit online.
I read Stars in My Pockets Like Grains of Sand in a sci-fi course at Vanderbilt and fell in love with it. Later on in college, I took a writing class with Randall Kenan, another gay black writer who was visiting from UNC I believe. Later on in the course, I told him about how much I loved Stars, and Randall told me that he personally knew Chip and that they were good friends. Kind of blew my mind but I guess it makes sense that two gay black men in academia would know each other. LOL
I took a short story class with him at SUNY Buffalo (also in Amherst oddly enough). I'm not a huge fan of his fiction but the way he talks about other people's work is mind altering.
Alternate1234ify saying your a classical liberal doesn’t make you a leftist nor does it make you a liberal. A “classical liberal” is just a conservative that wants to be special.
coming back to this after tim walz started getting folk to respond to republican / fascist activities as "weird" and having the response be so insane kinda tells us that this video was on to something about the whole mainstreaming thing
Here are my two cents. Even though I don't live in America and my interest in politics is limited to observations, there is a lot of positive power in your essays. It seems like you are doing UA-cam a great service by providing so much insightful, liberal content that isn't very aggressive in the conveyance of its message. I can't really support you on Patreon but every time a video from your channel pops up, I'm there to watch it instantly and it makes my horizons broaden. Please keep making more.
Liked for the same reason. I'm broke af, and can't contribute to any of the channels I frequent, but yours is so, so, so important. Please, keep sharing your thoughts. I thought the part at the end about "This is Not Normal" was brilliant. Because truthfully, it's becoming glaringly apparent that in some places, in some people's warped hearts, and in others' broken bones, it IS normal. But that doesn't make it right, doesn't mean it SHOULD be normal, or what America on the whole stands for. "This is not what should be normal" is what people mean, and I want to make it so. Your videos help.
I find the channel tends to over generalize. It paints a picture of the right wing based on certain people and sort of implies that those people represent the right wing as a whole. It applies this definition of "alt right" broadly and misrepresents a lot of arguments of the right. I mean every right wing point presented in this video series is a bad argument, and I get that's the point, but the video completely ignores any good arguments that are made for the same points, thus painting a biased picture of the right wing.
Man, Delaney's experience kind of feels like my experience now with ableism, Being both neruodivergent/mentally ill I have to deal with a lot of language and stories that depicts people like me in a very negative light. Even from progressive people. (Seriously like 90% of progressives don't seem to see anything wrong with serial killers being depicted as mentally ill/disabled and also uses terms like soci*path and psych*path even though both of those terms have been taken out of the DSM V.)
The world is changing far more rapidly than our understanding of it. All humans of every political stripe are profoundly ignorant. I wouldn't worry too much about cognitive science being terrible, it's the least of our current problems.
It's actually more of a social problem, Society could easily accommodate mentally disabled/ill people but they don't, if anything they force mentally disabled/ill people to accommodate for neurotypicals (People who don't have any mental illness/disability.) Just look up all the horrible shit autism speaks do to force autistic people to act "Normal."
To add to the sociopath/psychopath thing, they never were what people saw them as. They're not heartless monsters like some seem to suggest (cough cough, Kati mortan cough) they can be just as good of people as us. It's a mental disorder you get help for and learn to cope with. For more info watch dr. Todd grande.
@June ...I am borderline. The reason why most borderlines don't get help is because they don't want us there. There is so much hate for Cluster Bs, even by medical professionals. They don't listen to you, they paint you as always abusive and evil. And that's not true. Lately it has been discussed BPD is a form of CPTSD, and it shows more of women because its conected to childhood sexual abuse and sexual abuse. If you don't know about borderlines, maybe you shouldn't say things about them. One of my best friends is a schizoid person with ASP, and he is absolutely great. Before I was diagnosed as borderline, I was diagnosed as someone with psychotic depression, then DID, then schizophrenia, major depressive desorder, anxiety, bipolar disorder...I still got the anxious-depressive diagnosis. Most borderlines in fact search help. So does narssicist. You know what happens to them? They get rejected or judged by actual medical professionals because even just by looking at the diagnosis they have, they inmediately make an idea of the person being "bad", judge them, refuses to take them seriously and the patient fears going back there again. People like you are part of the reason why people with personality disorders are scared of getting help. You went "Prejudice is bad, however (reinforces prejudice)". Go learn about personality disorders from actual good sources. I go to therapy constantly, I take meds everyday and more. I also had to deal with therapist who treated me like crap for being borderline. I am the average patient. Could you go freely to the doctor if the doctor only mistreated you and judged you for something you have no control over?
I'd just like to make it clear for anyone who might return to this video, straight and queer are not opposites. There are many people who are queer *and* straight, such as straight trans people, and being straight does not "undermine" or "lessen" their queerness. In many cases, being straight helps to _define_ their queerness.
@@Wolcik3000 its less not wanting to be gay, and more realizing somewhere along the way that you were wrong. for example, a trans man who thought he was a lesbian, but came out as a man and is now attracted to women. he is still straight, but also queer because that falls into a wider category. all gay people are queer, but not all queer people are gay.
@@2brosstillchillin ok, so by your example: Biologically born woman was a lesbian, but then after the operation becomes heterosexual man because the sexual preference doesn't change but the sex. Do they make working penises for woman changing sex now?
I wonder if by mainstreaming he means how not even a single news outlet in all of the us has talked positively about trump. Maybe he should call this series pandering news outlet tactics?
Let me clarify: that was hyperbole. MOST news outlets speak negatively about Trump. Some forms of media even present crowds of people who are against him. If you have any other prominent american outlet that speaks about Trump positively; now's your chance to present them. I'm sure there's plenty but I'm also totally positive they'd be massively overshadowed by the negativity. Huffington Post MSNBC CNN NBC CBS ABC HBO C Span Along with every single talk show host within american soil. (That's hyperbole too, FYI.) You also got Urban Dictionary which has Anti-Trump definitions taking the spotlight practically every other day or more often. (Not a news station but a very prominent source of information for us yung'uns) But that's not the point here. Trump won the election so there was indeed a massive crowd of people that supported him. The point is that the media used similar tactics outlined in this very video to make Trump supporters look smaller. There's even news outlets spreading flat-out lies about Trump just to make him look bad like when they presented fictional info from a satirical article in a puertorican comedy website about how Trump plans to "abolish puertorican citizenship" as a hard fact, without citing the source to further their slimy political agenda. Even I myself have personally seen the bias against Trump recently. When he threw paper towels at people over here at Puerto Rico the media presented it as if it were him mocking us. When that actually wasn't the case. The news over here was very adamant about presenting two things together and nothing else. Trump throwing paper towels at people and Trump justifiably saying that the hurricane itself wasn't a big deal. Which it wasn't. If it weren't for the massive, well-known, and much hated severe incompetence of our government, we would have been fine. There was even a case where a man successfully repaired a telephone line on his own and government workers cut the fucking cables in response. Keep in mind guys that this isn't about defending Trump. If people use tactics like these to sway political opinion; you're only giving him more power by making yourselves look bad. I've seen this show on youtube various times before. I think this is a great series. That being said, I still find that Innuendo Studios presenting these tactics as "exclusive to the alt-right" as intellectually dishonest. He should be more clear about this in future videos.
I think this is also part of the reason that the 2024 election has seen the word "Weird" become so ubiquitous to describe Project 2025 and, by extension, the Republican Party as a whole. That desire to be normal cuts deep, and when people call you out for your beliefs not being normal (i.e. "Weird"), it drives other people away from you as well. It seems the alt right was caught on the back foot with that one.
It's strange to me as someone who initially followed Sargon while moving away from religion how radicalized he has become. Like, I don't know if I'd consider what he did to Sarkesian harassment after listening to his public statement, but he clearly has been moving further and further right since the election of Trump. What was once a channel about intellectual discussion of atheistic principle that occasionally skewed further right than most other members of that community now actively supports the Trump administration, something that he initially claimed to be doing ironically. I think you're spot on with your points about trending towards normalcy and intentional subterfuge in order to make radical beliefs more palatable. Excellent video Ian.
Until I found youtube I used to have high and mighty thoughts that athiests were just inherently more rational and ethical people. Watching the kind of videos produced by what I might term 'youtube athiests' was a big help in shaking that notion and deflating my head a little bit. To date I don't think I've found one who isn't also kind of a dick or a major reactionary or an 'inequality doesn't exist' nut, sadly.
@@OGAMIS You'd like Hugo & Jake, they're one of the few youtube atheists not to jump onto the anti-sjw bandwagon and they talk about politics quite often.
Good mantra, I'll bear it in mind. Some alt right person went to my latest video and threatened to cut my throat and watch me bleed out. It left me a bit fed up. EDIT: for the chap who deleted his comment in this thread claiming that I lied, I reported the alt righter and the comment in question was removed, along with one containing my full address
"Normal" had normative (no coincidence), i.e. prescriptive, connotations of "right" long before it had the merely descriptive connotations of "common, typical, or average", so saying "this is not normal" doesn't have to be a mere observation or a statement of intent. Saying "this is not normal" means, at its base, "this is wrong". That's why calling something "abnormal" is insulting, even if that thing is actually uncommon or atypical. Because "normal" doesn't just mean common or typical; it means "right". So when you call something not normal, you're saying it's not right. Which is a true thing to say about Nazis.
As hateful to the outside as the alt-right are, they are VERY good at fostering a sense of community and belonging to those who join them; it's one of their core strengths and why they are so good at on-boarding.
@@stuflikethis I think Ian brought this up in "They Go Low, We Go High". It's hard for liberal and leftist politicians to talk about their actual campaign because of how sectarian some people on the left can be, and we don't really have a sense of loyalty like the right does.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 So what's the solution then? How are we supposed to stop the alt-right from destroying everyone's lives when we can't stop fighting ourselves?
Bloody hell. The videos of this channel are so extraordinarily good. I struggle quite a lot to follow the theory behind why certain things work and others don't as well as keeping up with popularised terms of dominant discourse techniques, this video in particular is incredibly helpful :)
There's a video on how "you go high, we go low" works, and I think that we should start playing the game they're playing if we want a chance at not losing.
@@witherschatbut are you aware that this is basiclly escalating the conflict? The answer is not "beat nazis to death" but more "deradicilize the right". Because remember what is one of the most important mantras the radical right has: They are coming for us
Paul Tello: Why? Are you an identitarian of some sort to assign traits to races rather than individuals? I thought folks who think immigration is somehow an existential problem also thought that it's individuals who succeed not groups. Unless you meant that it's unrealistic to think white folks can be as good at most things as black folks. Then I'd have to agree with you. ;-)
NormandyMedia: Filme, Fames, UA-cam und anderes "Proceeds to call themselfes "classic liberals"" Of course, with the way most of them act, those calling themselves "classical liberals" would have spent most of the French Revolution whining about property damage, and hoping for a victory of the counter-revolutionaries and reactionaries of Europe over the liberal revolutionaries of France and its allies. These so-called "classical liberals" are more Burke than they are Paine.
We need to protect our young children from hateful ideas!! Recently I’ve been going back and forth on YT with some racist who sounds about 14yo or so, and it definitely seems the racists like to target young kids up to college age. It’s much harder to sell a different idea of normal to adults who have firmly established definitions of what normal is (for better or worse).
yes, there are studies on this. extremist groups tend to target younger audiences, providing them purpose and an outlet for the aggression teenagers undeniably build up during puberty. there is a ted talk by an ex-neo-nazi somewhere where he talks about this. and despite giving him as an example, i do want to stress that i mean "extremists" in a neutral sense, not giving the term any (political) direction ON PURPOSE. many extremist groups focus on teenagers as their recruitment target group.
@@oliverc.karstark1950 stating the obvious but young people's minds are extremely malleable, adulthood is where it gets hard. they can still come back but it's extremely depressing seeing someone you know repeating these things with no grasp on the endpoint of those beliefs
as a gay polyamorous trans girl I'm glad we're still gaining visibility. I do want a lot more talk about polyamory and how it works and when it works well and when it doesn't
@@mynamesnotshanekid813 Huh? He just needs an honest explanation. You know, not everyone is as informed as we are on these topics. Burst your bubble, most people's day to day life doesn't include questions of gender and sexuality. That's why we need to inform them.
@@Wolcik3000 Polyamoury means they are in intimate emotional relationships with multiple partners. As for the second: When you are trans, you ALWAYS identify with your preferred or rather real gender when not specifically meaning you falsely at birth assigned sex. At least thats from my experience. So, they are probably a trans woman attracted to other women.
@@Karl_der_Genosse i wonder why it was decided to switch from poligamy to polyamorous - I guess because it removes stable relationship and focuses on the romantic begining without goal of funcionalilty - just fun easy to market I still get confused about input and output values of transition mechanics
I chuckle every time I see the fascists at one of their whine-ins. Their flags are always creased, clearly never having been used before. Like they bought them at Waffenmart just before the wawwy.
Anyone who feels a group defined by their intrinsic characteristics just existing is oppressing them-and even moreso, if they think the individuals of that group do so-is a whingy twatmongrel. I just kinda realized this after someone got really narky because I liked a waifu they didn't in a game. Mfer was genuinely debating my tastes and subjective opinions on a fucking imaginary woman, and it kinda dawned on me: this is it. This is what arguing against people based on pointless distinctions looks like.
I'm from Argentina, last Sunday on international pride day, there were many conflicts all across the country, because a few civilians (most of them ex military - wich has a sad background related to a few dictatorships) refuse to let the lgbt community rise their flag (act aprooved by the goverment) because laying down our national flag meant disrespecting it and those who defended it on the Malvinas/Falklands Islands war. I revisit this video because i was hoping to build an argument regarding the fight of the lgbt community on gaining some visibility and the last part of the video, about the fight on what's being normal, really made up my mind.
Congratulations, you've accurately grokked part of the thesis of the video, specifically that the Alt-right is using similar tactics as those used in progressive movements to try to roll back the ground gained by those progressive movements.
every time that i come back to this series- which i do a LOT- i always feel like this is the strongest video in presenting its ideas. getting me emotionally charged about the alt-right's evils isn't hard but this video always kind of hits different in a way i feel like none of the other videos in the series do.
Great video as always. One thing though: Could you activate community contributions on it? I'm the guy who has been subtitling the Alt-Right Playbook series in Portuguese. Would love to start working on this one. :) Thanks in advance
Coming here in 2024, where popular Democrat media has begun labeling the Right as "weird", and it's driving them nuts. This video is the reason it works.
I flipped when you said "This is a battle about the definition of normal" because a podcast i work on has an episode about how this idea is everywhere in The Owl House.
Which makes it even funnier when you find gay transphobes. Essentially, they hate the very people who allowed them the opportunity to not get beaten to death for coming out. I'm honestly curious if there's an element of self-hatred in those contrary weirdos.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 well I did some research and the gay rights movement started in the Weimar Republic (pre Nazi Germany). By Jewish doctors and sexologists, so the same goes for antisemitic gay people. This is not to discredit trans women for starting pride, pride was mainly started by trans women and black lesbians.
@@verbulent_flow6229 lol yeah, everyone is equal and the story is honestly pretty sad but like when there is an opportunity for joke THAT WELL SET UP its difficult to not say it.
Hey, one episode I'd like to see (Which I don't think has already been done) is why the alt-right really exists, what do they want and why they want it. I sort of feel I already know, but I think it would be super informative for someone like you to put it into words
In 2012, more white people were born than died in America. That's the first time that has ever happened in this country. Minority populations, meanwhile, are growing. The demographics are changing. Once equality seemed like a lofty goal that we just pursued and spoke to when it was convenient. But now it appears like it's happening (enter Obama) and these young men, their life not turning out the way they thought it would, are not happy about it. So they react against those groups of people whom they feel are to blame for their alleged displacement. Hence the terminology about being "replaced" and wanting things to be great "again." As Danskin points out, these are not a majority of men, but enough to start a movement.
This video is so prophetic because now (8/7/2024) the Kamala Harris-Tim Walz campaign (for the moment) is effectively firing back at Donald Trump-J.D.Vance campaign by calling them "weird" (i.e., NOT NORMAL)
Actually, the current understanding is, that most "bots" aren't actually bots, but stupid people just have waaaayyy too much time and they're well organized...
I have a friend who is, generally, very supportive of the left's goals, is definitely not someone I would consider bigoted or racist, and never has been as far as I can tell. But one thing he's said to me is he doesn't understand why people feel the need to label themselves--like, for instance, the Twitter/Tumblr bio intro that goes: x/x pronouns, list of mental illnesses, sexual orientation, race, random factoid. And at the time I couldn't really articulate why it was important for oppressed and marginalized people to identify themselves like that. It DID seem like pointless identify politics, but I couldn't help but feel like that wasn't all there was to it--surely there was a difference between queer people/poc/disabled people identifying themselves on their blogs and fascist identity politics. This really gives me the language I needed to articulate why that's important. Thank you!
I strongly disapprove of non-binary pronouns, with the exception of "they". I don't consider listing your mental illnesses at all wrong, unless they are fictitious or self-diagnosed, and sexual preference is entirely personal. My primary objection to the self-identification movement is lack of biological basis, where such a basis is required. I don't think anyone can disagree that asexuality, transexuality, homosexuality have a basis in biology. The point is, these people can call themselves what they want, but if they expect people to ignore biological facts, where they may contradict their self-described identity, they are ridiculous. From my observations, Leftist identity politics is particulate. Since the set of all possible identities are valid, it is important for individuals which identity they are assigned. Right-wing identitarianism is monolithic. It is meant to moderate behavior in a very conformist way. You will get shamed or intimidated by the right wing if you don't toe the line. Lastly, a question: What do you now think about the sort of identity politics on the left? Is it reasonable to demand recognition for a self-made identity? If somebody identified as genderqueer, Is it necessary for their identity to be validated, or is it irrelevant for the general purposes of society?
This is one of the clearest explanations of the alt-right phenomenon I've seen out of masses of stuff on the internet. Please keep doing what you're doing.
I am on a re-watch of the alt-right playbook. I remember watching them as they came out and finding them so helpful and interesting, but 4 years later now, coming back and having learned more, i am noticing a lot more detail in the research that had flown over my head the first time around. These videos are really well constructed. Thanks Ian, this is amazing
There is a man named Florian who talked all about how language is WAY too normalized in Europe, especially Romania where he's from. He is ethnic Roma, but the term G*psy (and in Eastern Europe, "c*gan") is as normalized as ever, like it never changed even from the 1800s.
In Spanish though, the term for roma is gitano, it's not derogatory in any way it's literally the name we have in our language for them (and they call themselves that too). But we do have other words that are derogatory like gicho that are used too deliberately.
i just wanna say i've been binging your alt-right playbook series and i love your casual but clear tone while talking and i love how concise and PREcise all of your points are. like you hit so many things that have been on the tip of my tongue so long about the alt-right community RIGHT on the head, and have made me realize new things that have been right under my nose about them too. and you talk in such a casual non aggressive but realist and sometimes comical language, that makes it easy to digest even when the topics get very serious. you don't even tone down anything or sugarcoat it, just your sprinkles of jokes that somehow acknowledge the seriousness of the situation / your dry humor. keep it up, i'm looking forward to watching your other videos too!!!
Dude, you are a fuckin’ GENIUS!!!! I can’t believe it’s taken me so long before I found all your videos. Thank you, Bless you and KICK OUT THE JAMS, yo!
If anyone wants to know more about the right, and the alt-right specifically, I highly recommend subscribing to Right Richter. Will Sommer does a fantastic job researching and compiling the various personalities that it cycles through and dogwhistles that the right comes up with. If you really want to have a good idea of where the alt-right 'appeared from' in the purely practical sense, read his stuff. It's great.
Or, hear what about what it is from the alt right themselves. This month, the book A Fair Hearing: The Alt Right in the Words of its Members and Leaders is being published. afairhearing.net/
Six years ago, when this video came out, I would think Europe is becoming mainstream for LGBTQ. Today, six years later, my country, Poland, having black people and ever so slightly more queer and really-weird-looking-pierced-and-tattoo'ed people, is becoming mainstream. And I don't want to be a racist, homophobe, transphobe or whatever, but for someone who was born in 1996 and lived two decades in Poland, this is really weird and doesn't feel normal. But when else, if not now? A bit too bad not earlier, when my mind was a little more flexible to changes, cuz rn, in 30s, it's really difficult to adapt to new world. But if I am to become a part of right and start destroying life of others, who just want to be themselves... I rather change, just for the sake of my friends and their happiness, as that makes me happy.
Do you want to live in a society where everyone looks exactly the same, including yourself? Is that how you would feel everything is "normal"? Those societies have a name. Think about it
@@-dazz- What if I want all those people to look whatever they look, but assimilate with the culture and language inside the community they live in? I have a right for that. I can be tolerant, but only to certain degree. I just want the person I speak to in my country to reply in the same language I do everyday, no matter if they lived her since birthday or just came in here. Be black, red, yellow, white, but speak in my language and we'll be good. We can even be friends, if I feel like it.
@@vikkij5221 It can be hard for people who change cultures as adults to adapt, but their kids are almost always fully integrated. So what's the big deal?
@@-dazz- Exactly adult people. You don't know who joins the community. It can be a black refugee from Africa being shy, but inside very friendly. Can be black Afro-American, having gun in backpack, being friendly only to a moment he acknowledges we want him to assimilate and abide to our law of no guns, just for us to be shot. With just our old community, we don't have to worry much, as we all know each other and know what sort of threat we can expect. With newcomers outside Europe, this changes and probability of threats increases drastically. Unless they all assimilate. Despite the difficulties for them.
@@vikkij5221 Why would you ignore my main point about them actually assimilating by cherrypicking a few adults who "may" carry guns in their backpacks? Why would you reply with "exactly" as if I agreed with you on anything you said? Are you just some right winger in the process of being radicalized, or a troll who's already a full blown racist?
As a disabled person who was bullied for not being "Normal," I have come to see "Normal" people as a Mokery (such as the Protagonists in TV Commercials and 1950s Centron and Coronet guidance films), and probably do more dubious activities when no one is looking.
Tolerance is such a sketchy word in general, and the very nature of it is how the alt-right is able to maintain certain appearances. It comes with a built-in goalpost mover. When the left speaks of tolerance, it is talking about a specific type of tolerance. A tolerance of immutable traits, attributes which are intrinsic to the person and which you cannot separate them from. When the alt-right speaks of tolerance, it is also talking about a specific type of tolerance - a tolerance of actions, of conscious choices that people make and which they could ignore at any time they want to, though they absolutely do not want to. The alt-right thrives on using these two definitions of tolerance interchangeably in order to make two wildly different positions appear hypocritical to each other. Are you tolerant, or are you intolerant? Well, I'm tolerant of what any given person needs in their internal life in order to live happily. I'm intolerant of actions which infringe on the ability of another person to idealize themselves as someone they can be happy as. But in the time it takes to stipulate that whole mouthful, the alt-right debater has already hopped to a different topic.
I only have respect and tolerance for those who also have them. More accurately, I respect everyone as a human being, but I don't respect anyone as a person unless they respect everyone as a human being.
Surfing On Squarewaves cue the brainlet alt righters posting walls of text trying to spin one of the most pathetic things the world has ever seen as anything remotely reasonable or not depressingly stupid I'm not joking here, someone joked about Baked Alaska squirting soap in his eyes in the comments on the new Shaun and Jen video about the alt right rally, and some dumbass posted this multi-page essay ranting about eye wash chemicals and something about the people around Baked Alaska calling it plain old soap because of something to do with not knowing about ingredients or something??? It didn't make much sense and I don't remember most of it but it was pretty funny, shouldn't be too hard to find either.
I've watched three of your videos and can't believe how intelligent and incisive your narratives are. I'm unaccustomed to finding this level of quality on UA-cam. I guess I'll have to subscribe so that I can become accustomed. Thank you.
10:39 - When someone says they fear being 'replaced'; they really fear losing their monopoly on influence. That's why"I am a man" was so scary. They fear that without their privilege, they _might actually be chopped liver..._
Well this aged in a scary fashion, especially considering how violent the rhetoric about a 'new normal' is getting with the alt right. Normalizing humanism is met with death threats.
Commenting b/c you deserve to be seen by the algorithm. I just started watching, but man your videos are so good. And it's hard to justify claiming bias when you talk about this stuff so eloquently and look at the big picture/macro side of politics.
Thanks for posting vids like this. As a young man growing up in this whacky world, its really nice to be able to get insight like this in a compact and easy to understand form. You're doing a real service, chief.
Just like to point out, the story that Marsha Johnson and Sylvia Rivera started Stonewall is a myth. They were there, but arrived much later. The actual person who instigated the rebellion was Storme Delarverie, a black butch lesbian, who was being assaulted by the police outside the Stonewall Inn. Of course Johnson and Rivera were incredibly important to the movement and should definitely be remembered as founders, however we really shouldn't mythologize inaccurate history, especially something which occurred only 50 years ago.
The dude literally shouted heil Trump while doing a Nazi salute. Just because you know how to use the > key on your keyboard doesn't mean you get to ignore basic facts.
Okay. It took me a while but I think I understood what you were trying to say here. Spencer doesn't identify as a Nazi and, in fact, is only using the common signifiers of being a Nazi to bait people into calling him a Nazi. Something like that? The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself. He uses Nazi slogans, he marched with the KKK at Charlottesville, and he advocates ethnic cleansing. You don't get to do all that and then just turn around and say, "well I don't feel like a Nazi."
James Morgan "The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself." Yeah truth has a funny way of being inconvenient don't it lad? Good on you for launching your noble crusade against it.
If you heil Trump, march with the KKK, and advocate ethnic cleansing, then you're objectively a Nazi (or at least Nazi-adjacent), regardless of how you feel inside. You don't just get to say a label doesn't apply to you because you don't feel like it does. That's not really how labels work. Isn't the right supposed to be against this Postmodern-Neomarxist abuse of words? Maybe I was misinformed.
I really like "we will not let this be normal." Simply saying "This is not normal" seems like denial, and saying "this should not be normal" is a statement of preference, but "we will not let this be normal" is a statement with power and intent. It is transformative language at its best.
Why don't you want it to be normal though?
Normal precedes such things as legal rights, as smoking pot became "normal" and then proceeded to a process of legalization. So making fascism normal is a conclusive step toward official political power.
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What do you even mean by a "white country" anyway, and why should I, a white person, care if there are any left or not? Is the fear supposed to be that if white people become a minority they will be treated the way minorities are currently treated? Because either that's an admission that minorities are currently treated poorly or it shouldn't be a worry at all. Otherwise what's the fear?
As for white people an cultures, they're not disappearing any time in the foreseeable future, even in the unlikely event that "white countries" were to disappear. I mean, obviously those cultures will change over time, but they'll do that anyway. Take someone from London in 1450 and drop them into London in 1850 and they'd barely recognise the culture (and barely speak the language). I really don't get what the big deal is supposed to be.
Lots of things that are normal today was opposed by the mainstream a few decades ago. "We will not let this be normal" is a statement that holds absolutely zero weight on its own.
Tim Walz saw this video but thought that “this is not normal” wasn’t snappy enough so he came up with “weird”.
Lmao, accurate. I was just thinking to myself at the end of the video, "hey, isn't this just that thing that started a couple weeks ago?"
it'd just be nice if he could avoid intentionally normalizing police violence against protestors and dissidents
Yes! This is exactly what I was thinking, damn it if it isn't a super effective tactic
And it works cuz rightists will not stop talking about it
And now he has been forced to completely drop it because the Democratic establishment can't stand any attempt at progressive populism.
i am in support of science fiction bears
If you weren't I'd be worried
Somehow I'm not surprised Eric. Not surprised at all.
The first thing I thought of was VanderMeer’s Borne
Wow I just discovered both of your channels in the last few days, crazy seeing you guys in the same place. I loved your takedown video of PJW’s views on modern art.
Science fiction bears are great! They get cybernetics and lasers and can maul a dumpster in less time tha... oh, wait, we're talking about different things, aren't we?
This is why Walz's "weird" insult hits them so hard
Think of how twisted your values have to be where a world of modern day hippies at worst living in peace is the most horrifying thing you can imagine.
@karma for karens 12tone dunking on Shen Bapiro's "hot take" about rap is one of the most glorious things on this site.
Found the alt-right troll.
@@hhjsuskhs See, here's the flaw in your BS "white genocide" logic:
Wouldn't that also "pollute" the other races too? Your genetic lineage would continue anyway, since your genes are getting passed down.
The flaw, aside from it just being obvious bullshit, racist, and clearly not happening.
@@hhjsuskhs don’t conflate the philosophy of social Darwinism for evolution. If you’re going to perpetuate “ethnic purity”, at least make an effort to understand these basic distinctions.
@@hhjsuskhs social Darwinism is a philosophy pushed by Herbert Spencer who misconstrued Darwinian evolution which was later discredited and disavowed by Darwin.
This philosophy was used by conservatives to advocate and promote variations of specific ideologies including ethnic purity, ethnic cleansing via imperialism and so forth based on supposed observations found in nature.
Evolution on the other hand explains the biodiversity of life on earth with no definitive end goal or purpose in general and in the context of ethnic purity.
If you’re going to peddle ethnic purity, stick to religion.
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Holy shit, that dude is from my city. He was in a band that was pretty okay, but he eventually took over the page and attempted to make "white nationalist metal". He and his brother were arrested alongside a friend for shooting at a black man in florida after a richard spencer rally. It was wild to see so many in our town defending him as not being racist while many of us in the music scene were very aware of his proclivities. He was in charlottesville along with a few other musicians in our area that ive been made aware of. Someone appearing friendly and being awful in private is nothing new. Ted bundy SEEMED nice and manson was very charming. Dont let talent and skill pasted with a smile distract from the evil some may harbor.
Spread the word; danger can be closer to home than a lot of people think.
Leo Howler theres alot more of him here than most of us openly talk about despite knowing. Its embarassing to even say so. I know guys whovs lost gigs and spots over it, so its not totally invisible i suppose.
florida man
and the thing is that he isn't even trying to seem 'normal' in public. the public perception has become so skewed that his nazi behavior is just seen as something that is a little less than 'normal' rather than completely fucking unacceptable
Thus is why I support pirating in some cases
Still looking for a haircut that suits me and has not been co-opted by nazis :(
In my opinion, they don't get to have nice things, take it back and wear it how you like.
Additionally, Fred Perry and Hawaiian shirts. I'm not letting them take that away from me. It's not normal. I'm not letting them make it a symbol.
Are you bald?
A mullet, fellow comrade
@@ladyfalcia same with pepe. he's just a frog bro, why can't we just take him back in our memes as a happy frog, like his creator intended. sure, some people use him in a shitty and racist way, but they also use tiki torches, and you don't see them being declared hate symbols. hell, it's already happening on twitch with emotes.
"We will not let this be normal"... I like that
@Eric Tortora Pato Not very tolerant, though.
@Alternate1234ifySo you're saying tolerating intolerance is?
@@ganondorfchampin
It's the tolerance paradox
@@Alternate1234ify we should NOT be tolerent to harmful ideologies, unsurprisingly if we do it will only make us less tolerat toward the people who actually need our tolerance, the people who their very existence is deemed morally wrong by those ideologies.
So, no, this is NOT normal.
We will not let race riots be normal nor the perpetrators of assault be sanctified
For a tolerant society to exist, the one thing that society cannot tolerate is intolerance.
The tolerance paradox
Z. Zorost No, the problem is that the intolerant will take advantage of the tolerant and the tolerant society will be gone. Look up the Paradox of Tolerance if you're curious.
Z. Zorost that's not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that for a society too strive to accept all manner of races and peoples the one thing that society cannot accept is inherent unacceptance of races and peoples. Whether it's "competitive" or not isn't up for debate and honestly I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Edit: After rereading your comment, I want to be clear that the "ideologies" at play here are accepting people for their inherent worth and not accepting certain people due to some inherent factor. There is no other debate going on in what I'm saying. If that's what you're talking about than yes, for a society dedicated to accepting all people, the one kind of people that society cannot accept are people that aren't accepting of other people. Does that rewording help?
Z. Zorost Dude, that's literally why it's called a paradox. Did you read the Wikipedia article?
Z. Zorost No, it's not like that at all what you just did is a logical fallacy, and can I just take a step back and clarify that you are arguing for the right of people to be hurtful and prejudiced towards others? Because that is the only way you could possibly have a problem with this.
on the topic of people posting things 'ironically' i would like to point out a phenomenon:
you ever see a term of slang, think its super weird, and start using it jokingly, only to suddenly find it a solidified part of your vocabulary that you use intentionally for some meaning? (sometimes that meaning is not what it was originally for, but the point is that you're still using it)
its like that. if someone intentionally spreads those ideas via memes under the guise of it being ironic, if they convince others to do it too, the others might spread it to others in a similar fashion, and there's a chance it becomes ingrained in them. in this way, these ideas can become like a virus, thought-germs spreading from person to person, not everyone getting really effected by it, but some, and the asymptomatic infectees spreading it further. the word 'viral' can have both meanings apply at once sometimes
To expand on your "thought germs" thought germ, check out CGPGrey's video "This Video Will Make You Angry." he coined that term in that video (iirc) and explains in more depth how they spread, change, and evolve.
The word you're looking for is 'meme.'
I'm not joking, that's literally what memetics is all about. Somewhat ironically, the word meme itself seems to have gone through a similar process.
As a wise man once said, "Memes - The DNA of the Soul!"
@@JessCArtist Jack - "THE MEMES!!"
@@festethephule7553 and it really sucks that that's what memes are because people will *immediately* stop taking the conversation seriously when hearing it
I like how the kpop community has taken up the strategy of spamming reactionary hashtags with fancams
What do you mean? Am i missing something that i should be aware of?
@@OneLikeOthers iirc, at some point during the George Floyd Protests some people tried to get #whitelivesmatter and other reactionary hashtags trending but a lot of kpop stans spammed them with fancams to make them unusable
@@OneLikeOthers whenever there’s a racist # a bunch of kpop stans meme it with kpop fancams(kpop groups dancing) to drown out the #. It’s honestly really funny
@@mfriz5317 The only good thing those people do.
@@mfriz5317 How does it actually work ? If they use the hashtag, isn't it supposed to get trenting ?
Note: If you buy Sargon's line that showing up early to take the front two rows of a panel and stare down the woman he's been leading a dogpile on for several years isn't harassment, you are being played.
No, I will not argue about this with you in the comments.
Who even gives a fuck about Sarkeesian at this point? Have you seen her view counts? She's been over for a while.
Then don't. You're wrong either way.
"And you'll have to clarify that: Anything you say, no matter how insightful or well researched, is, ultimately, your opinion, and invite people to expand or push back on your ideas"
Except the idea that sitting around doing nothing is harassment. That one is true for sure, no debate possible.
fite me in the comments IS ill prove you that Anita is bad
first lets talk about how she scammed millions
as whole i do enjoy your videos even if i dont agree with you but if you consider what Sargon did harassment then you need to reevaluate your personal definition of the word. "take down videos" only work if you can prove the persons argument wrong . "fashy" hair cuts are not a thing. those are only a couple of things i disagreed. but it was still a good well made video
Tim Walz finally implementing what Innuendo figured out *6 YEARS AGO*
Videos like these helped me get away from the far-right's greasy clutches before it was too late. I thank you!
dont blindly follow this guy, though he does try a bit to show both sides he is still very biased. there are many little things and connotations that he chooses to use which can change your opinion on things, also you got 138 likes thought id tell you
@@Nayhan123 Yeah his bias definitely shows through a lot even though he won't admit it. What he labels as alt-right is really lenient
@@Nayhan123 Where did you get the idea that he's following him blindly as if this channel was gospel? You're hard projecting bro.
@@schibleh531 i didnt, i just said not to
Hell yeah dude!!! I'm glad you got away from it, good for you
Halfway into the video, I was so engrossed by happy messages about the progress of the lgbt movement that it hit me like a truck when you started changing the topic to the alt-right again. I was like "oh yeah, totally forgot that I clicked on a video about the douchebags who think I don't deserve rights"
@@seagulfs4123 you good bro?
You mean like the islamists that throw homosexuals from rooftops? How do you think you’d have it in Catholic LatAm, West Africa, the Turkic countries, Russia, the Caribbean where they still have “buggery laws” and especially Dar-Al-Islam? I could keep going on and on, but you don’t know how good you have had it in the states. Keep on fighting windmills 😂🤦♂️
Same
Why should you deserve them?
@@averyhaferman3474 you thought you did something
I've been saying "human rights are non-negotiable" all this time, but *this is not normal* is a pretty good companion to that.
Oh, it doesn't really work though, from my experience most pyramidal-society-advocates (most of the right) either want the opposite to be true, or they say that no such thing as a human right should exist in the first place, so that saying becomes "an opinion" instead of "a fact", and it loses almost all the power it has.
Also, UA-cam won't let me edit on mobile, I was talking about the "Human rights are non-negotiable" phrase.
The other one holds up intent much, much better!
just a quick note: the ironic usage of "triggered" was ALWAYS shitty and ableist. "triggered" is specifically a word used by neurodivergent people (particularly people w/ PTSD) to describe extreme and disproportionate negative responses to innocuous stimuli (like having a panic attack b/c the lights in your room are too bright, or having a flashback b/c someone touched you). the joking use of that term has systemically stripped language away from neurodivergent communities, which is unfortunately very common. it's almost the opposite of this... people keep on taking our language and using it as a meme. it's happened with "gaslight" too. it is very sucks :(
yeah, it sucks that "tirggered" and "meltdown" was used for twatter spats by political discourse
journalist helped in watering down PTSD for having bad day and it went mainstream
What are you? A Twitter bot? Why do you speak like an SJW automaton?
The issue you speak of seems very powerful and baked into how language spreads. Repetition is a way that people remember things better, so for a word to reach widespread usage it will be repeated constantly, and if the majority of the people using the word are not part of the group that it was meant to cater to then the original definition will slide away. In other words, it seems inevitable that minority language once mainstreamed will not be as helpful for the minority group
i agree! just to clarify tho neurodivergent specifically refers to neurodevelopmental conditions (autism, adhd, and dyslexia for example) not mental illness or personality disorders most of the time
triggered lol
Nowadays we just call em weird.
Right on. I immediately thought of this when I watched the video. It's basically the same thing and it's effective.
This aged so well that it's now basically the whole PR message of the Harris-Walz campaign
Nice try, pal. Pretty sure “left” is very far from “alt-right”, but considering the average IQ of you weirdos I don’t know if you even saw that.
@@bobthebuilder9509you are weird
@@bobthebuilder9509 Your..very odd.
@@bobthebuilder9509 strange comment
Seeing this shit happen right before my eyes is terrifying in a way I can’t truly put into words.
Unless you are a sociopath. Then it's the greatest time to be living in if you enjoy watching the world burn. The trolls won. We are living in their utopia.
the_cosmic_alexolotl
It’s depressingly entertaining, though.
@The Ravenous Lamppost im so sorry for you. all i can really hope for is that deep down you know youre talking shit.
MLBlue30 what if I’m like that but I’m nice to people and shit? Does that make me a socialopath
We were warned in 2000 (when Al Gore got voted out of Presidency due to nepotism) but 2016 removed the lid. The unpunished Facists and Nazi around us don't feel pressured to hide anymore, because Trump made the visible. It's terrifying how many roaches were hidden under the centralism rock
I love your Alt-Right Playbook series. The waiting period between each video feels so long but honestly they're worth it. Keep making great content. You're great.
If you love these series, I highly recommend "Alt-Right Politics" podcast
That is kinda scary...his videos are kinda bad source for learning rhetoric. He makes some big mistakes. I suggest you go else where for this kind of knowledge.
@@MurderousJohnny If these videos are a bad source, I'd like to see you prove that with unbiased evidence.
Most people love it when someone tongue's their anus unapologetically, Ronald, but if half of what he said was accurate I couldn't find that half lol.
MurderousJohnny I find it extremely interesting that tons of people keep saying “He’s wrong and is making mistakes” but NEVER provide an example of what he got wrong and why it’s wrong. Makes ya think
"Delaney was a bear" _shows pic of Delaney_
Me, a straight dude "fuck yea he was"
god i fucking love everything about this.
"They want to draw attention to themselves by any means necessary, up to and including violence [...] There is a man in a suit ready to distance himself from it."
honestly 10/10
There's this tumblr story about how in ancient Rome one senator or something proposed that all slaves should wear a white armbind so they can be immediately identified as a slave. It was shut down because the nobles, correctly, assumed that as soon as the slaves knew how many they actually were, they would revolt. I don't know if it's true, but it speaks to what Delany described. It keeps marginalized groups isolated.
Also I wonder if there ever were visual signifiers of slavery in history like we often see them in pop culture, collars, burn marks and such. I have to look that up.
This makes no sense as slaves were divided into class based on owner's wealth - some slaves could be better of than free man and thus some people would sell themselves to slavery to repay loans.
Slave is a job, not a class.
Marginalised groups (i.e. people who are not normal white people)
@@aswfabt in some African countries the white people are marginalized groups - so it all depends on the in-group preference - the people behind the walls are always white walkers - wildlings at best
@@Wolcik3000 By "some African countries", you meant Zimbabwe, eh?
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 im suprised that i made these comments 3-4 months ago, cause I dont remember which countries I meant and I care less about politics now due economical crisis coming forward in my life than foreign affairs
Cue a hundred comments about Sargon not _technically_ harassing Anita, like that's the major thing to comment on from this video.
Miacisjaune to be fair most of the stuff in this video is hard to disagree with. So that point kinda stuck out.
Gotta keep the conversation off the topics they have no defense against, after all
A hundred comments that could have been avoided by not having something objectively false in the video.
IT is a technicality. People make mistakes. I really like this channel, but I don't hold it as some beacon of perfection. I view this brilliant channel as an awesome person explaining politics. No one can get everything right.
No, I stand by what I said. Showing up early to have you and your friends take up the front two rows of a person you have been spreading disinformation about online for years and have tacitly encouraged and directly profited from the harassment of is blatant intimidation tactics. Anyone buying his "we're just quietly sitting her" line is getting played.
Something that upsets me is seeing how many people follow Shadman and are just ok with him wearing the SS uniform, that’s fucking insane, peak normalization.
TRUE
I take more issue with the Loli hentai but that’s also bad
@@ciaranhayes3212 “Loki hentai” I hate that mental image
@@amysteriousstranger1221 that and what he actually does is terrifying
I don't know about you, but the actual porn Shadman draws is enough for me to stay away. And that's saying something since I've seen some crazy shit online.
Little did you know "this is not normal" would become the mantra for 2020.
“Weird” is a campaign platform in 2024, we keep going
I took a writing class from Chip Delaney back in my UMass Amherst days. He's one of the best.
I read that as wrestling and I'm now wondering just what could have been.
Jelly af
always nice to see another umass alum out in the wild
I read Stars in My Pockets Like Grains of Sand in a sci-fi course at Vanderbilt and fell in love with it. Later on in college, I took a writing class with Randall Kenan, another gay black writer who was visiting from UNC I believe. Later on in the course, I told him about how much I loved Stars, and Randall told me that he personally knew Chip and that they were good friends. Kind of blew my mind but I guess it makes sense that two gay black men in academia would know each other. LOL
I took a short story class with him at SUNY Buffalo (also in Amherst oddly enough). I'm not a huge fan of his fiction but the way he talks about other people's work is mind altering.
Well, it didn't take too many Sargons for Carl's apologists to show up in force.
"b-b-but he's a leftist!"
@@ShehuStebe Sargon is a classic liberal in the English tradition.
Alternate1234ify saying your a classical liberal doesn’t make you a leftist nor does it make you a liberal. A “classical liberal” is just a conservative that wants to be special.
@@Alternate1234ify okay say what he is supposed to be but we will judge him by his platform. He's no christopher hitchens
@@drewreich9274 Christopher Hitchens' views were highly influenced by Marxism, as his brother Peter has said. That's not classical liberalism.
coming back to this after tim walz started getting folk to respond to republican / fascist activities as "weird" and having the response be so insane kinda tells us that this video was on to something about the whole mainstreaming thing
Here are my two cents. Even though I don't live in America and my interest in politics is limited to observations, there is a lot of positive power in your essays. It seems like you are doing UA-cam a great service by providing so much insightful, liberal content that isn't very aggressive in the conveyance of its message. I can't really support you on Patreon but every time a video from your channel pops up, I'm there to watch it instantly and it makes my horizons broaden. Please keep making more.
I was going to pretty much say this exact thing. So um, upvote.
Liked for the same reason. I'm broke af, and can't contribute to any of the channels I frequent, but yours is so, so, so important. Please, keep sharing your thoughts. I thought the part at the end about "This is Not Normal" was brilliant. Because truthfully, it's becoming glaringly apparent that in some places, in some people's warped hearts, and in others'
broken bones, it IS normal. But that doesn't make it right, doesn't mean it SHOULD be normal, or what America on the whole stands for. "This is not what should be normal" is what people mean, and I want to make it so. Your videos help.
I find the channel tends to over generalize. It paints a picture of the right wing based on certain people and sort of implies that those people represent the right wing as a whole. It applies this definition of "alt right" broadly and misrepresents a lot of arguments of the right. I mean every right wing point presented in this video series is a bad argument, and I get that's the point, but the video completely ignores any good arguments that are made for the same points, thus painting a biased picture of the right wing.
I'm not broke but I'm saving for a new computer :). Then college
Jerk Jerkington it's like you only read the title
Man, Delaney's experience kind of feels like my experience now with ableism, Being both neruodivergent/mentally ill I have to deal with a lot of language and stories that depicts people like me in a very negative light. Even from progressive people. (Seriously like 90% of progressives don't seem to see anything wrong with serial killers being depicted as mentally ill/disabled and also uses terms like soci*path and psych*path even though both of those terms have been taken out of the DSM V.)
The world is changing far more rapidly than our understanding of it. All humans of every political stripe are profoundly ignorant. I wouldn't worry too much about cognitive science being terrible, it's the least of our current problems.
It's actually more of a social problem, Society could easily accommodate mentally disabled/ill people but they don't, if anything they force mentally disabled/ill people to accommodate for neurotypicals (People who don't have any mental illness/disability.) Just look up all the horrible shit autism speaks do to force autistic people to act "Normal."
To add to the sociopath/psychopath thing, they never were what people saw them as. They're not heartless monsters like some seem to suggest (cough cough, Kati mortan cough) they can be just as good of people as us. It's a mental disorder you get help for and learn to cope with. For more info watch dr. Todd grande.
I actually have a role play character with ASPD who locks up serial killers, none of whom are mentally ill.
@June ...I am borderline. The reason why most borderlines don't get help is because they don't want us there.
There is so much hate for Cluster Bs, even by medical professionals. They don't listen to you, they paint you as always abusive and evil. And that's not true. Lately it has been discussed BPD is a form of CPTSD, and it shows more of women because its conected to childhood sexual abuse and sexual abuse.
If you don't know about borderlines, maybe you shouldn't say things about them. One of my best friends is a schizoid person with ASP, and he is absolutely great.
Before I was diagnosed as borderline, I was diagnosed as someone with psychotic depression, then DID, then schizophrenia, major depressive desorder, anxiety, bipolar disorder...I still got the anxious-depressive diagnosis.
Most borderlines in fact search help. So does narssicist. You know what happens to them? They get rejected or judged by actual medical professionals because even just by looking at the diagnosis they have, they inmediately make an idea of the person being "bad", judge them, refuses to take them seriously and the patient fears going back there again.
People like you are part of the reason why people with personality disorders are scared of getting help. You went "Prejudice is bad, however (reinforces prejudice)".
Go learn about personality disorders from actual good sources. I go to therapy constantly, I take meds everyday and more. I also had to deal with therapist who treated me like crap for being borderline. I am the average patient.
Could you go freely to the doctor if the doctor only mistreated you and judged you for something you have no control over?
1:10 I kinda forgot queer was a slur tbh. I'm glad we reclaimed that one.
Me too. It’s a a lot easier to say than “El-Jee-Bee-Tee-Cue-I-Aye-Plus.”
I’d rather people call me Queer than a long acronym.
@@Smerpyderp But the Alphabet Mafia?😨😨
No one told 15 year olds on tumblr
@@Smerpyderp No same here. Its so much easier. And its more inclusive than just using "gay".
@@Dabednego I have heard both really good things and really bad things about tumblr
I'd just like to make it clear for anyone who might return to this video, straight and queer are not opposites. There are many people who are queer *and* straight, such as straight trans people, and being straight does not "undermine" or "lessen" their queerness. In many cases, being straight helps to _define_ their queerness.
I dont get it.
You mean someone assigned one sex at birth then transforming to other to not be gay anymore?
@@Wolcik3000
Probably lol
I don't get it,care to elaborate plz?
@@Wolcik3000 its less not wanting to be gay, and more realizing somewhere along the way that you were wrong. for example, a trans man who thought he was a lesbian, but came out as a man and is now attracted to women. he is still straight, but also queer because that falls into a wider category. all gay people are queer, but not all queer people are gay.
@@2brosstillchillin ok, so by your example:
Biologically born woman was a lesbian, but then after the operation becomes heterosexual man because the sexual preference doesn't change but the sex.
Do they make working penises for woman changing sex now?
This video is extremely normal.
All of your videos are too
I wonder if by mainstreaming he means how not even a single news outlet in all of the us has talked positively about trump.
Maybe he should call this series pandering news outlet tactics?
penzildude111 has fox not talked positively about trump?
Let me clarify: that was hyperbole.
MOST news outlets speak negatively about Trump. Some forms of media even present crowds of people who are against him.
If you have any other prominent american outlet that speaks about Trump positively; now's your chance to present them.
I'm sure there's plenty but I'm also totally positive they'd be massively overshadowed by the negativity.
Huffington Post
MSNBC
CNN
NBC
CBS
ABC
HBO
C Span
Along with every single talk show host within american soil.
(That's hyperbole too, FYI.)
You also got Urban Dictionary which has Anti-Trump definitions taking the spotlight practically every other day or more often.
(Not a news station but a very prominent source of information for us yung'uns)
But that's not the point here.
Trump won the election so there was indeed a massive crowd of people that supported him.
The point is that the media used similar tactics outlined in this very video to make Trump supporters look smaller.
There's even news outlets spreading flat-out lies about Trump just to make him look bad like when they presented fictional info from a satirical article in a puertorican comedy website about how Trump plans to "abolish puertorican citizenship" as a hard fact, without citing the source to further their slimy political agenda.
Even I myself have personally seen the bias against Trump recently. When he threw paper towels at people over here at Puerto Rico the media presented it as if it were him mocking us. When that actually wasn't the case. The news over here was very adamant about presenting two things together and nothing else.
Trump throwing paper towels at people and Trump justifiably saying that the hurricane itself wasn't a big deal.
Which it wasn't. If it weren't for the massive, well-known, and much hated severe incompetence of our government, we would have been fine. There was even a case where a man successfully repaired a telephone line on his own and government workers cut the fucking cables in response.
Keep in mind guys that this isn't about defending Trump.
If people use tactics like these to sway political opinion; you're only giving him more power by making yourselves look bad.
I've seen this show on youtube various times before. I think this is a great series.
That being said, I still find that Innuendo Studios presenting these tactics as "exclusive to the alt-right" as intellectually dishonest. He should be more clear about this in future videos.
*also the entirety of hollywood.
I think that one may not even be hyperbole at this point.
10:30 and people say "antifa accomplishes nothing" 😂
They do stuff, riot and attack anyone who is anything slightly right of them
Care to give a sourced example?
@@KyuubiDragon4 for what?
@@Casey-cy6ph Your claim. Can I get an example from you, with source, of antifa "rioting and attacking anyone who is anything slightly right of them"?
@@KyuubiDragon4 hasn't antifa recently rioted in
front of a book store that was selling a book by andy neo?
I think this is also part of the reason that the 2024 election has seen the word "Weird" become so ubiquitous to describe Project 2025 and, by extension, the Republican Party as a whole. That desire to be normal cuts deep, and when people call you out for your beliefs not being normal (i.e. "Weird"), it drives other people away from you as well. It seems the alt right was caught on the back foot with that one.
It's strange to me as someone who initially followed Sargon while moving away from religion how radicalized he has become. Like, I don't know if I'd consider what he did to Sarkesian harassment after listening to his public statement, but he clearly has been moving further and further right since the election of Trump. What was once a channel about intellectual discussion of atheistic principle that occasionally skewed further right than most other members of that community now actively supports the Trump administration, something that he initially claimed to be doing ironically. I think you're spot on with your points about trending towards normalcy and intentional subterfuge in order to make radical beliefs more palatable. Excellent video Ian.
Until I found youtube I used to have high and mighty thoughts that athiests were just inherently more rational and ethical people. Watching the kind of videos produced by what I might term 'youtube athiests' was a big help in shaking that notion and deflating my head a little bit. To date I don't think I've found one who isn't also kind of a dick or a major reactionary or an 'inequality doesn't exist' nut, sadly.
Ogamis Cult of Dusty, maybe?
@@OGAMIS You'd like Hugo & Jake, they're one of the few youtube atheists not to jump onto the anti-sjw bandwagon and they talk about politics quite often.
A shitlord in a suit is still a shitlord.
And what they really love is a seam of fashionable, but outsider, thought that they can monetize.
If you like atheist UA-camrs, check out Darkmatter2525. The animation is weird, but the content is golden.
Good mantra, I'll bear it in mind. Some alt right person went to my latest video and threatened to cut my throat and watch me bleed out. It left me a bit fed up.
EDIT: for the chap who deleted his comment in this thread claiming that I lied, I reported the alt righter and the comment in question was removed, along with one containing my full address
Ignore him
(As in the person who threatened you)
Hezekiah McDonald thanks! I will
The delete comment and block buttons can be your best friends when it comes to dealing with them.
Ashley certainly can
Just ignore the threatening ones.
"Normal" had normative (no coincidence), i.e. prescriptive, connotations of "right" long before it had the merely descriptive connotations of "common, typical, or average", so saying "this is not normal" doesn't have to be a mere observation or a statement of intent. Saying "this is not normal" means, at its base, "this is wrong". That's why calling something "abnormal" is insulting, even if that thing is actually uncommon or atypical. Because "normal" doesn't just mean common or typical; it means "right". So when you call something not normal, you're saying it's not right. Which is a true thing to say about Nazis.
what?
@@hhjsuskhs Sorry, for a second there I thought you were trying to say something in a language.
So many popular youtubers are getting “redpilled” and most of them are to dumb to know. So sad.
As hateful to the outside as the alt-right are, they are VERY good at fostering a sense of community and belonging to those who join them; it's one of their core strengths and why they are so good at on-boarding.
@@jonathannetherton6727 Exactly, I think that's one of their biggest strengths.
In comparison, the left eats their own
@@stuflikethis I think Ian brought this up in "They Go Low, We Go High". It's hard for liberal and leftist politicians to talk about their actual campaign because of how sectarian some people on the left can be, and we don't really have a sense of loyalty like the right does.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 So what's the solution then? How are we supposed to stop the alt-right from destroying everyone's lives when we can't stop fighting ourselves?
Bloody hell.
The videos of this channel are so extraordinarily good.
I struggle quite a lot to follow the theory behind why certain things work and others don't as well as keeping up with popularised terms of dominant discourse techniques, this video in particular is incredibly helpful :)
The more I watch this the more I’m like “Fuck it. If they’re going to play dirty, I’m just going to join antifa.”
antifa is based
well, the point of the video is for people to be more racialized to the left so its working
There's a video on how "you go high, we go low" works, and I think that we should start playing the game they're playing if we want a chance at not losing.
@@witherschatbut are you aware that this is basiclly escalating the conflict?
The answer is not "beat nazis to death" but more "deradicilize the right". Because remember what is one of the most important mantras the radical right has: They are coming for us
*puts on black suit, tie and combs pristine hair* I'm not a Nazi, but immigrants and black people...
Remove the word “pristine” and you just described trump perfectly
Paul Tello: Why? Are you an identitarian of some sort to assign traits to races rather than individuals? I thought folks who think immigration is somehow an existential problem also thought that it's individuals who succeed not groups. Unless you meant that it's unrealistic to think white folks can be as good at most things as black folks. Then I'd have to agree with you. ;-)
And "hair" too.
NormandyMedia: Filme, Fames, UA-cam und anderes
"Proceeds to call themselfes "classic liberals""
Of course, with the way most of them act, those calling themselves "classical liberals" would have spent most of the French Revolution whining about property damage, and hoping for a victory of the counter-revolutionaries and reactionaries of Europe over the liberal revolutionaries of France and its allies.
These so-called "classical liberals" are more Burke than they are Paine.
The people who fought Nazis would have said the same thing.
We need to protect our young children from hateful ideas!! Recently I’ve been going back and forth on YT with some racist who sounds about 14yo or so, and it definitely seems the racists like to target young kids up to college age. It’s much harder to sell a different idea of normal to adults who have firmly established definitions of what normal is (for better or worse).
yes, there are studies on this. extremist groups tend to target younger audiences, providing them purpose and an outlet for the aggression teenagers undeniably build up during puberty. there is a ted talk by an ex-neo-nazi somewhere where he talks about this. and despite giving him as an example, i do want to stress that i mean "extremists" in a neutral sense, not giving the term any (political) direction ON PURPOSE. many extremist groups focus on teenagers as their recruitment target group.
Lol
@@oliverc.karstark1950 stating the obvious but young people's minds are extremely malleable, adulthood is where it gets hard. they can still come back but it's extremely depressing seeing someone you know repeating these things with no grasp on the endpoint of those beliefs
Yup. I went pretty far down the UA-cam rabbit hole for about 7 years, and have been clawing my way out for a the past few months
Good, welcome back
Same happened to me when I was like 12. Good for you man, I’m glad you’ve gotten out of there :)
@@carocaro101 same, who was it for you?
this is good!!
most people who crawl out of the alt right end up never going back
and hey, its a lot easier to make friends on the left too
as a gay polyamorous trans girl I'm glad we're still gaining visibility.
I do want a lot more talk about polyamory and how it works and when it works well and when it doesn't
Whats polyamory?
Does gay trans girl mean you were wrongly assigned as male and now after transition prefer woman?
@@mynamesnotshanekid813 im must be a dummy cause i dont get it
@@mynamesnotshanekid813
Huh? He just needs an honest explanation.
You know, not everyone is as informed as we are on these topics. Burst your bubble, most people's day to day life doesn't include questions of gender and sexuality. That's why we need to inform them.
@@Wolcik3000
Polyamoury means they are in intimate emotional relationships with multiple partners.
As for the second: When you are trans, you ALWAYS identify with your preferred or rather real gender when not specifically meaning you falsely at birth assigned sex. At least thats from my experience.
So, they are probably a trans woman attracted to other women.
@@Karl_der_Genosse i wonder why it was decided to switch from poligamy to polyamorous - I guess because it removes stable relationship and focuses on the romantic begining without goal of funcionalilty - just fun easy to market
I still get confused about input and output values of transition mechanics
I really like the idea of "ThisIsNotNormal" being used as a statement of intent
Granting gay people equality and rights was not considered "normal," do we wind the clock back and rescind our progress?
I chuckle every time I see the fascists at one of their whine-ins. Their flags are always creased, clearly never having been used before. Like they bought them at Waffenmart just before the wawwy.
Also its so hillarious when they call everyone "snowflakes" and "triggered" yet they throw a hissy fit when a female protagonist is put in a game
"Waffenmart" You, sir, are a wordsmith.
"Waffenmart." Holy shit, I need to start using that.
Anyone who feels a group defined by their intrinsic characteristics just existing is oppressing them-and even moreso, if they think the individuals of that group do so-is a whingy twatmongrel. I just kinda realized this after someone got really narky because I liked a waifu they didn't in a game. Mfer was genuinely debating my tastes and subjective opinions on a fucking imaginary woman, and it kinda dawned on me: this is it. This is what arguing against people based on pointless distinctions looks like.
I aways wondered where the heck they bought those Klan duds. Obviously, it has to be Waffenmart. It's the Reich place to shop.
I've had "This Is Not Normal" pasted to the shelf over my desk since before the 2016 election results. Thank you, John Oliver.
I'm from Argentina, last Sunday on international pride day, there were many conflicts all across the country, because a few civilians (most of them ex military - wich has a sad background related to a few dictatorships) refuse to let the lgbt community rise their flag (act aprooved by the goverment) because laying down our national flag meant disrespecting it and those who defended it on the Malvinas/Falklands Islands war. I revisit this video because i was hoping to build an argument regarding the fight of the lgbt community on gaining some visibility and the last part of the video, about the fight on what's being normal, really made up my mind.
Argentina is *STILL* angry about those islands?
revisiting 9:34 in 2024 after the entirety of Trumps fanbase and establishment loses their minds over being called "weird"... yeah
Yeah just thought the same. Looks like democrats just watched this video recently
small thing: i love how you create mini or sub characters and have them reappear in later explanations!
"Make yourself newsworthy" is how Civil Rights gained a lot of traction.
Congratulations, you've accurately grokked part of the thesis of the video, specifically that the Alt-right is using similar tactics as those used in progressive movements to try to roll back the ground gained by those progressive movements.
Jacob Driscoll
Wow getting attention will get you attention!!!!
Who knew???
every time that i come back to this series- which i do a LOT- i always feel like this is the strongest video in presenting its ideas. getting me emotionally charged about the alt-right's evils isn't hard but this video always kind of hits different in a way i feel like none of the other videos in the series do.
Great video as always.
One thing though: Could you activate community contributions on it? I'm the guy who has been subtitling the Alt-Right Playbook series in Portuguese. Would love to start working on this one. :)
Thanks in advance
Quero te agradecer muito mesmo por que acho que esses vídeos tem tudo a ver com o clima político BR
Charlottesville is starting to feel pretty normal in comparison now.
But a reminder: This is not normal.
This is quickly becoming my favorite channel. Nobody is covering how the alt right mind works better than you.
Excellent video, as per usual -- and hey, I even got another author to add to my to-read list out of it. Thanks for what you're doing here.
On the theme of language Babel-17 is amazing.
Coming here in 2024, where popular Democrat media has begun labeling the Right as "weird", and it's driving them nuts. This video is the reason it works.
It's refreshing to see the Dems kick the "they go low, we go high" bullshit to the curb for once
@Johnson333552
Too little too late though.
'Everyone else is doing it'
Oh the banality of evil
That's not what that means
I flipped when you said "This is a battle about the definition of normal" because a podcast i work on has an episode about how this idea is everywhere in The Owl House.
Oh damn I didn't know about the trans women thing, as I trans woman I thank you very much for educating me.
☺️☺️🤗 TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!
@@icyr0bin-794 TYSM!!!
@@rebbecawitt581 yeah ofc im so sorry abt the shit trans ppl constantly get 😞😞 transphobia will be defeated eventually it’s only a matter of time
Which makes it even funnier when you find gay transphobes. Essentially, they hate the very people who allowed them the opportunity to not get beaten to death for coming out. I'm honestly curious if there's an element of self-hatred in those contrary weirdos.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 well I did some research and the gay rights movement started in the Weimar Republic (pre Nazi Germany). By Jewish doctors and sexologists, so the same goes for antisemitic gay people. This is not to discredit trans women for starting pride, pride was mainly started by trans women and black lesbians.
1:40 "but none could get a view of the whole" oh trust me hun I can imagine a few of them were getting a great view of the hole.. im really sorry.
ffs man
oh well, as long as you're ok with gay people that's ok
@@verbulent_flow6229 lol yeah, everyone is equal and the story is honestly pretty sad but like when there is an opportunity for joke THAT WELL SET UP its difficult to not say it.
@@randomcommenter3819 true, true
I don't think I've seen a better deconstruction of the alt-right than your videos. crazy good shit. subbed.
Hey, one episode I'd like to see (Which I don't think has already been done) is why the alt-right really exists, what do they want and why they want it. I sort of feel I already know, but I think it would be super informative for someone like you to put it into words
Oh jeez that'd be like an hour and a half long video just to give an intro honestly, it could seriously be a class at college
Go to ContraPoints
They want to ethnically cleanse america and europe. We will not let them do that!
I understand THAT, but WHY do they want to do that?
In 2012, more white people were born than died in America. That's the first time that has ever happened in this country. Minority populations, meanwhile, are growing. The demographics are changing. Once equality seemed like a lofty goal that we just pursued and spoke to when it was convenient. But now it appears like it's happening (enter Obama) and these young men, their life not turning out the way they thought it would, are not happy about it. So they react against those groups of people whom they feel are to blame for their alleged displacement. Hence the terminology about being "replaced" and wanting things to be great "again."
As Danskin points out, these are not a majority of men, but enough to start a movement.
Thanks for the recontextualization of "this is not normal". I've been grappling with the dual use of the phrase since the election.
What isnt normal, Naomi?
This video is so prophetic because now (8/7/2024) the Kamala Harris-Tim Walz campaign (for the moment) is effectively firing back at Donald Trump-J.D.Vance campaign by calling them "weird" (i.e., NOT NORMAL)
Actually, the current understanding is, that most "bots" aren't actually bots, but stupid people just have waaaayyy too much time and they're well organized...
I have a friend who is, generally, very supportive of the left's goals, is definitely not someone I would consider bigoted or racist, and never has been as far as I can tell. But one thing he's said to me is he doesn't understand why people feel the need to label themselves--like, for instance, the Twitter/Tumblr bio intro that goes: x/x pronouns, list of mental illnesses, sexual orientation, race, random factoid. And at the time I couldn't really articulate why it was important for oppressed and marginalized people to identify themselves like that. It DID seem like pointless identify politics, but I couldn't help but feel like that wasn't all there was to it--surely there was a difference between queer people/poc/disabled people identifying themselves on their blogs and fascist identity politics.
This really gives me the language I needed to articulate why that's important. Thank you!
I strongly disapprove of non-binary pronouns, with the exception of "they". I don't consider listing your mental illnesses at all wrong, unless they are fictitious or self-diagnosed, and sexual preference is entirely personal.
My primary objection to the self-identification movement is lack of biological basis, where such a basis is required. I don't think anyone can disagree that asexuality, transexuality, homosexuality have a basis in biology.
The point is, these people can call themselves what they want, but if they expect people to ignore biological facts, where they may contradict their self-described identity, they are ridiculous.
From my observations, Leftist identity politics is particulate. Since the set of all possible identities are valid, it is important for individuals which identity they are assigned. Right-wing identitarianism is monolithic. It is meant to moderate behavior in a very conformist way. You will get shamed or intimidated by the right wing if you don't toe the line.
Lastly, a question: What do you now think about the sort of identity politics on the left? Is it reasonable to demand recognition for a self-made identity? If somebody identified as genderqueer, Is it necessary for their identity to be validated, or is it irrelevant for the general purposes of society?
@@SaurianSaviorGuy with a political compass pfp *would* fail to understand nuances of gender expression and basic human respect
This is one of the clearest explanations of the alt-right phenomenon I've seen out of masses of stuff on the internet. Please keep doing what you're doing.
I am on a re-watch of the alt-right playbook. I remember watching them as they came out and finding them so helpful and interesting, but 4 years later now, coming back and having learned more, i am noticing a lot more detail in the research that had flown over my head the first time around. These videos are really well constructed. Thanks Ian, this is amazing
There is a man named Florian who talked all about how language is WAY too normalized in Europe, especially Romania where he's from. He is ethnic Roma, but the term G*psy (and in Eastern Europe, "c*gan") is as normalized as ever, like it never changed even from the 1800s.
In Spanish though, the term for roma is gitano, it's not derogatory in any way it's literally the name we have in our language for them (and they call themselves that too). But we do have other words that are derogatory like gicho that are used too deliberately.
I love how pedantic and defensive nazis get
i just wanna say i've been binging your alt-right playbook series and i love your casual but clear tone while talking and i love how concise and PREcise all of your points are. like you hit so many things that have been on the tip of my tongue so long about the alt-right community RIGHT on the head, and have made me realize new things that have been right under my nose about them too. and you talk in such a casual non aggressive but realist and sometimes comical language, that makes it easy to digest even when the topics get very serious. you don't even tone down anything or sugarcoat it, just your sprinkles of jokes that somehow acknowledge the seriousness of the situation / your dry humor. keep it up, i'm looking forward to watching your other videos too!!!
Dear god, this video is five years old
Dude, you are a fuckin’ GENIUS!!!! I can’t believe it’s taken me so long before I found all your videos. Thank you, Bless you and KICK OUT THE JAMS, yo!
If anyone wants to know more about the right, and the alt-right specifically, I highly recommend subscribing to Right Richter. Will Sommer does a fantastic job researching and compiling the various personalities that it cycles through and dogwhistles that the right comes up with. If you really want to have a good idea of where the alt-right 'appeared from' in the purely practical sense, read his stuff. It's great.
Fropps Would you mind leaving a link, I don't seem to be able to find it for some reason :(
Fropps same. I can't find it
www.rightrichter.com/
Seth West 😊 Thank you
Or, hear what about what it is from the alt right themselves. This month, the book A Fair Hearing: The Alt Right in the Words of its Members and Leaders is being published. afairhearing.net/
Six years ago, when this video came out, I would think Europe is becoming mainstream for LGBTQ. Today, six years later, my country, Poland, having black people and ever so slightly more queer and really-weird-looking-pierced-and-tattoo'ed people, is becoming mainstream. And I don't want to be a racist, homophobe, transphobe or whatever, but for someone who was born in 1996 and lived two decades in Poland, this is really weird and doesn't feel normal. But when else, if not now? A bit too bad not earlier, when my mind was a little more flexible to changes, cuz rn, in 30s, it's really difficult to adapt to new world.
But if I am to become a part of right and start destroying life of others, who just want to be themselves... I rather change, just for the sake of my friends and their happiness, as that makes me happy.
Do you want to live in a society where everyone looks exactly the same, including yourself? Is that how you would feel everything is "normal"? Those societies have a name. Think about it
@@-dazz- What if I want all those people to look whatever they look, but assimilate with the culture and language inside the community they live in? I have a right for that. I can be tolerant, but only to certain degree. I just want the person I speak to in my country to reply in the same language I do everyday, no matter if they lived her since birthday or just came in here. Be black, red, yellow, white, but speak in my language and we'll be good. We can even be friends, if I feel like it.
@@vikkij5221 It can be hard for people who change cultures as adults to adapt, but their kids are almost always fully integrated. So what's the big deal?
@@-dazz- Exactly adult people. You don't know who joins the community. It can be a black refugee from Africa being shy, but inside very friendly. Can be black Afro-American, having gun in backpack, being friendly only to a moment he acknowledges we want him to assimilate and abide to our law of no guns, just for us to be shot. With just our old community, we don't have to worry much, as we all know each other and know what sort of threat we can expect. With newcomers outside Europe, this changes and probability of threats increases drastically. Unless they all assimilate. Despite the difficulties for them.
@@vikkij5221 Why would you ignore my main point about them actually assimilating by cherrypicking a few adults who "may" carry guns in their backpacks? Why would you reply with "exactly" as if I agreed with you on anything you said? Are you just some right winger in the process of being radicalized, or a troll who's already a full blown racist?
As a disabled person who was bullied for not being "Normal," I have come to see "Normal" people as a Mokery (such as the Protagonists in TV Commercials and 1950s Centron and Coronet guidance films), and probably do more dubious activities when no one is looking.
@@hhjsuskhs So lies the white Supremist eugenics adherent.
Tolerance is such a sketchy word in general, and the very nature of it is how the alt-right is able to maintain certain appearances. It comes with a built-in goalpost mover. When the left speaks of tolerance, it is talking about a specific type of tolerance. A tolerance of immutable traits, attributes which are intrinsic to the person and which you cannot separate them from. When the alt-right speaks of tolerance, it is also talking about a specific type of tolerance - a tolerance of actions, of conscious choices that people make and which they could ignore at any time they want to, though they absolutely do not want to.
The alt-right thrives on using these two definitions of tolerance interchangeably in order to make two wildly different positions appear hypocritical to each other. Are you tolerant, or are you intolerant? Well, I'm tolerant of what any given person needs in their internal life in order to live happily. I'm intolerant of actions which infringe on the ability of another person to idealize themselves as someone they can be happy as. But in the time it takes to stipulate that whole mouthful, the alt-right debater has already hopped to a different topic.
I only have respect and tolerance for those who also have them. More accurately, I respect everyone as a human being, but I don't respect anyone as a person unless they respect everyone as a human being.
Spraying soap into your eyes and having a panic attack is not normal.
It is normal.
“Help help! I’m having a panic attack!!”
Surfing On Squarewaves cue the brainlet alt righters posting walls of text trying to spin one of the most pathetic things the world has ever seen as anything remotely reasonable or not depressingly stupid
I'm not joking here, someone joked about Baked Alaska squirting soap in his eyes in the comments on the new Shaun and Jen video about the alt right rally, and some dumbass posted this multi-page essay ranting about eye wash chemicals and something about the people around Baked Alaska calling it plain old soap because of something to do with not knowing about ingredients or something??? It didn't make much sense and I don't remember most of it but it was pretty funny, shouldn't be too hard to find either.
"the master race"
I have just discovered Innuendo Studios and I must say your videos rock! Thanks!
I've watched three of your videos and can't believe how intelligent and incisive your narratives are. I'm unaccustomed to finding this level of quality on UA-cam. I guess I'll have to subscribe so that I can become accustomed. Thank you.
This channel is great. Keep up the good work.
6:48 I live in Half Moon Bay and suddenly seeing my town's local newspaper in some random video was so jarring.
I will never get tired of the intro "say for the sake of argument"
I subbed because of the Smash content and was pleasantly surprised by these insightful videos. Thanks for all your work!
10:39 - When someone says they fear being 'replaced'; they really fear losing their monopoly on influence.
That's why"I am a man" was so scary. They fear that without their privilege, they _might actually be chopped liver..._
Well this aged in a scary fashion, especially considering how violent the rhetoric about a 'new normal' is getting with the alt right. Normalizing humanism is met with death threats.
@@fuhreaks evidence?
@@fuhreaks that's not evidence backing up your claims. You're transparently lying
@@fuhreaks also concern trolling is an impotent ruse
@@fuhreaks that has nothing to do with this. It's like you're trying to confuse, distract, and exhaust. Why?
@@fuhreaks false equivalence is an impotent concern troll
Crazy watching this in 2024. Things have never been less normal
the American Truck Simulator screenshot is HILARIOUS
I like how you start with "Say, for the sake of argument" so much. Memorable.
Commenting b/c you deserve to be seen by the algorithm. I just started watching, but man your videos are so good. And it's hard to justify claiming bias when you talk about this stuff so eloquently and look at the big picture/macro side of politics.
Thanks for posting vids like this. As a young man growing up in this whacky world, its really nice to be able to get insight like this in a compact and easy to understand form. You're doing a real service, chief.
Just like to point out, the story that Marsha Johnson and Sylvia Rivera started Stonewall is a myth. They were there, but arrived much later. The actual person who instigated the rebellion was Storme Delarverie, a black butch lesbian, who was being assaulted by the police outside the Stonewall Inn. Of course Johnson and Rivera were incredibly important to the movement and should definitely be remembered as founders, however we really shouldn't mythologize inaccurate history, especially something which occurred only 50 years ago.
Thank you so much for doing these. It’s important and meaningful work. I’d buy a book if you wrote one.
I would, too.
“We will not let this be normal.” That goes hard.
It really does
Man, I hate Richard Spencer so much.
The dude literally shouted heil Trump while doing a Nazi salute. Just because you know how to use the > key on your keyboard doesn't mean you get to ignore basic facts.
Okay. It took me a while but I think I understood what you were trying to say here. Spencer doesn't identify as a Nazi and, in fact, is only using the common signifiers of being a Nazi to bait people into calling him a Nazi. Something like that?
The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself. He uses Nazi slogans, he marched with the KKK at Charlottesville, and he advocates ethnic cleansing. You don't get to do all that and then just turn around and say, "well I don't feel like a Nazi."
James Morgan
"The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself."
Yeah truth has a funny way of being inconvenient don't it lad? Good on you for launching your noble crusade against it.
If you heil Trump, march with the KKK, and advocate ethnic cleansing, then you're objectively a Nazi (or at least Nazi-adjacent), regardless of how you feel inside.
You don't just get to say a label doesn't apply to you because you don't feel like it does. That's not really how labels work. Isn't the right supposed to be against this Postmodern-Neomarxist abuse of words? Maybe I was misinformed.
Oh yeah I forgot how well the KKK got on with National Socialists.
You historically illiterate nobber.
It’s similar to how in 1984 language was being strained out to make thought crime impossible.