Why Do Young People Seem So Fragile? - Dr Jean Twenge
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Dr Jean Twenge is a psychologist, Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University, generational researcher and an author.
Each generation tends to view themselves as more refined than the one before them. But with Boomers, Millennials and Gen Z, something changed. Generations started to see life as easier in the past, less prosperous now and tougher to succeed. Jean has spent a career working out just why modern groups believe this, and how true it is.
Expect to learn whether millennials actually did have it harder than boomers, which generation has the most robust mental health and why, the massive effect of technology across age groups, why 60% of Gen Z girls have mental health problems, why young people aren't getting their drivers' licenses, why there is such a big decline in sexual activity and alcohol and much more...
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:09 Is Gen-Z Particularly Unique?
07:18 Why Are So Many Young Girls Considering Suicide?
16:47 The Main Causes of the Mental Health Crisis
20:57 Overcoming Inherited Trauma
24:28 Managing the Rise of Addictive Technology
29:02 Why Gen-Z Take Less Risks
35:04 Young People’s Perspectives on Life
39:00 Why Women Are Having Less Kids
45:16 Millennials Feel Worse Off Financially
49:09 The Change in Education & Employment of Young People
1:03:24 How Political Stances Have Changed in Youth
1:15:35 Is There Hope for Gen-Z?
1:18:50 Where to Find Dr Twenge
#millennials #boomers #genz
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00:00 Intro
02:09 Is Gen-Z Particularly Unique?
07:18 Why Are So Many Young Girls Considering Suicide?
16:47 The Main Causes of the Mental Health Crisis
20:57 Overcoming Inherited Trauma
24:28 Managing the Rise of Addictive Technology
29:02 Why Gen-Z Take Less Risks
35:04 Young People’s Perspectives on Life
39:00 Why Women Are Having Less Kids
45:16 Millennials Feel Worse Off Financially
49:09 The Change in Education & Employment of Young People
1:03:24 How Political Stances Have Changed in Youth
1:15:35 Is There Hope for Gen-Z?
1:18:50 Where to Find Dr Twenge
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Hello you beauties. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:09 Is Gen-Z Particularly Unique?
07:18 Why Are So Many Young Girls Considering Suicide?
16:47 The Main Causes of the Mental Health Crisis
20:57 Overcoming Inherited Trauma
24:28 Managing the Rise of Addictive Technology
29:02 Why Gen-Z Take Less Risks
35:04 Young People’s Perspectives on Life
39:00 Why Women Are Having Less Kids
45:16 Millennials Feel Worse Off Financially
49:09 The Change in Education & Employment of Young People
1:03:24 How Political Stances Have Changed in Youth
1:15:35 Is There Hope for Gen-Z?
1:18:50 Where to Find Dr Twenge
i know what happened around 2014 to 2015
that changed everything
Would like to see someone link the effects of glyphosate and birth control on the endocrine system, gut health and mental health, levels of fatigue and poor sleep. Poisoned people aren't very resilient.
Chris, have you considered this fact from prenatal neurobiology, that pregnant female who is scared and has high lvl of glucocorticoids will give you offspring with bigger amygdala, most likely introvert and with higher lvl of anxiety all over.
So you can have depression and anxiety growing as a cascade from one generation to another. It would be great if you could have a guest prof. Robert Sapolsky.
Men dont even act like they want a family to be honest. They try to get into your pants without the goal to have a family.
It gets really exhausting and annoying, someone that is that much careless and disrespect to woman in that way has no goal or ability to create a long-term healthy relationship let alone when kids are involved.
Chris, you're a smart guy. People had sex in the past because they were married very young. A large driver of marriage was the ability to have sex. Parents just to raise their girls to be chaste and to value themselves. We have only had 2-3 generations of sexual suicide (the original title of George Gilder's book- which you would LOVE). The only girls who were giving it up in the past were "those girls." I lived near a Hasidic Jewish community in Brookly for a long time. Those people are having a ton of sex- way more than the hipster side of the neighborhood- and they have it starting from a young age because they mate for marriage and family. They also have large families. And their kids are NORMAL. They play with reckless abandon and glee like NORMAL kids. It's surreal to see the contrast between normalcy and shiftless progressive hipsterdom with endless drinks, hook ups and psyche meds and spoiled boutique kids living side by side.
A constant message of fear and hopelessness is affecting our youth as well.
We were taught to learn from others' mistakes, so much so that we don't even try
Yes, I have 2 Gen Z teens and you’re right. They see so much on social media about society and politics and it’s hard for them to believe how messed up society is and even harder to believe how much we adults have tolerated it over the years (and in many ways, they’re right!). They also have well developed critical thinking skills, far better than I had at their age, but they’re still developing their executive functioning skills so conversing with them can feel like talking with a chat bit, they get concepts, but not context. It can make life feel confusing and their future seem scary. And, of course, there’s the issue of possible school shootings that have probably scarred them for life. To not understand why they’re scared and hopeless means the adults are ignoring the obvious
Oh man so true.
It's because the world has been turned upside down and they know it. They aren't oblivious to the fact the world boomers and older people are leaving is entirely 180 from what it should be.
The friggin lockdown and subsequent worsening of economies and inflation didn't help. And I'm a millennial, 34.
Its not just the screen times for kids that an issue. The adults are also spending too much time on devices while completely ignoring the children.
I’m 65, and I supplement my full-time day job by teaching part-time evenings in a 9 month welding program at a nearby trade school. Been teaching part-time for 10 years, and the last 2 years, I’ve seen a sharp influx of almost exclusively Gen Z students. To the person, both males and females, want nothing to do with college or insurmountable debt, want a cheaper ROI, and want skills to earn a living.
With gray heads retiring and dying off, there’s welding jobs all over in my area, and the wages have really jumped up in my area too. If they have a pulse and can fog a mirror, they can get a welding job. I get a few duds, but that’s to be expected.
Employers need to stop acting like street hoodlums, stop with these brainless wooey-wooey chakra HR interviews, keep the wages and benefits rising commensurate with productivity and experience, and invest in them if they want to keep these Gen Z welders, otherwise, they have no compunction to walk and monkey branch to the next best gig.
Corporate America is too bloated right now with useless workers up and down the hierarchy. Just look at what the tech companies did when they laid off huge amounts of their workforce and nothing changed. Hell Twitter lost like 60% of it's workforce and apparently is running fine. Wages can't go up with that much dead weight and I think the Zoomers see it. That's why they're going into professions like welding where you're closer to the money.
It’s like employers will do anything and everything, to keep employees motivated, except the one thing that will actually keep people around. Appropriate compensation.
@@RandoHandle the one currency for workers is money. Increase their salary, provided they deserve it, and they will give you everything. If they don’t get rewarded for their hard work, why would they bother?
Healthy signs for society. To get rid of gooey-wooey chakra HR interviews you might need to flush the HR department
@@Luke_Stoltenberg a business doesn’t need a hr department if it’s well run. After all they should have an environment that attracts good employees who want to stay there for life.
Gen Z - less likely to get into car accidents.
Also Gen Z - less likely to get a driver's license than previous generations and are on average an older age when they do.
🤔 Wonder if there is connection?
Idk about you guys but for me drivers ed was basically getting "scared straight" for 4 weeks. Watching videos of people of all ages get turned into strawberry jam by cars and then a little bit of info on what all the buttons do. I was having nightmares and panick attacks about driving for years.
Car accidents are generally compared to miles driven. People who don't drive are generally excluded from those stats.
@@maxgucciardi4507 shoulda watched more liveleak when you were younger lol. The desentization has actually helped me deal with medical emergencies tho
I feel like Millennials were the canaries in the coal mines, and gen Z keeps getting sent into the same mines with a bunch of dead birds.
Gotta love being one of those birds, just twitching and spasms 💀🤣🤣
Gen Z is better off in some ways because the boomers are dying and that is an opportunity for mobility that millennials didn’t have
As a millennial, aged 34, I think many younger people are better than our generation. They're more self-aware and focuses on being sensible.
@@NightinGal89for sure, they are more aware, but that's only because they see how badly millennials have had it.
We have to stop feeding them bird secede.
Hey, I'm 20 years old from the north of England. I understand that yeah, people my age have become more vulnerable in a sense. However, I feel like partly it has been forced upon us by the older generations. I remember when I was in primary school. I looked forward to going to high school for the freedom as the students could leave the school for their lunch hour, go to the fish and chippy shop, run around on this massive school field - and generally determine their lives more.
When I was high school age, after a year, the school gates were shut and remained shut for the entire school day. No one could leave. The local fish and chippy shut because they relied on the students, and we were no longer allowed to go. We were no longer allowed on the school field because it was too 'dangerous' for us, that is legit what they used to say, and we were confined to sit quietly at the school lunch tables every break. I'm not surprised if my age feels more vulnerable, because the adults, particularly the school system, wrapped us in bubble wrap for all our lives.
And we were never allowed to say anything because we were just seen as stupid kids.
Oh yeah my High school had the entire small town police department on patrol there and you could not leave the premises as a student without good reason… They wonder why things are the way they are now.
That's a very valid and important point here. I'm much older than you are, but i did similar observations around me over the last years. Things got worse with each year passing. Panike, fear, spred over the world, maintened by still more security mesures, safety here and safety there.
Sure, life can be dangerous, but what sader than commit suicide alone in a safe pink room ?
@jcrunkThat's a very valid point.
My dad in the 70s was just a ordinary printer. He could afford a 3 bedroom semi detached house in a nice suburb of London, 2 children and a stay at home wife.
Your dad's employment skills were in line with his time and that's why his income is sufficient. Are yours too?
I earn about 2 times the median household income for my city.
With that income I cannot afford the average purchasing price of a house in my city.
What should I do to update my skills so I can get a house? Or should we accept that housing prices have exploded?
Not to mention that it isn't exactly a secret wages have stagnated over the past decades.
My niece and nephew have bought their own houses by their mid 20s. They've bought where they could afford, they were taught to save their wages as teenagers, they don't have £1000 phone, they bought secondhand or free furniture etc and they've not been overseas for three years. Their jobs are average to the area. There is a way, you have to change your mindset
@@slaapt maybe yours is a budget/spending issue and not an income issue.
Did he have multiple televisions, phones, cars, computers, data plans, gaming consoles? Did he eat breakfast, lunch and dinner outside the house? I grew up in the 70s and people did not spend money like people do today. Especially on food. Our dad brought home something from outside maybe twice a month. The rest of time we ate cereal for breakfast, a pbj sandwich or something similar for lunch and whatever out mom cooked for dinner.
I'm the only person in my circle of friends and family my age that has a house. I'm 31. I have a science degree and my wife has an engineering degree. We both work full time. It took us 4 years to save up enough money for the down-payment on our home and it was tight for a while afterwards. 2 of my friends have moved back in with their parents who work full time jobs and are also 30. One of them just got engaged and wants to get married but is too poor to afford much of anything. Another couple who's been engaged for years is on the verge of just setting up picnic tables in their parents back yard. Neither I nore any of my friends have any kids or drug habits or crimal historys and most of my male friends are veterans... my grandfather bought his first house with his wife he married at 19 when she was 18 working 1 job and he's handicapped cuz he's missing one arm. He had 4 kids by the time he was 27 and retired at 60 because he was able to make such a huge heap of money on one "general engineering" degree working for one company. Things are not better for the millenials and anyone who says they are is out of touch.
Exactly. While it takes us years just to save up for a down payment on a 30yr mortgage, my father bought a house outright in his 30's.
My grandfather admits it was much easier for him to get a house and raise a family. He did an apprenticeship at 15 and that got him into a high paying career. The same career now requires a bachelors degree, which means you’re probably 25 when you’re entering that career. At the same time the salaries haven’t gone up at the same rate as the cost of many things
Yeah, essentially Jean is just full of it.
Something I see quite a bit of with the people who are in their 30s like me is that Netflix is a need and "I'm a victim" mentality. I personally think my generation makes life hard on themselves. While no you can't buy a house outright now there a far better programs for homeownership that allows you to only need 3.5. I implore any millennials struggling with finances to look up how to make a budget and stick to it. Get rid of bills that are not true nessesscities. (Tvs are not a need)
It really depends on the millennial though. In 2021, over 50% of millennials owned a home and that number will only continue to increase as the younger end of the generation get older and attain the wealth for home ownership. As millennials, many of us will also inherit our parent's property. I'm 34 and bought a house with my husband 2 years ago. Many of my friends and peers have been buying homes over the past 3-4 years. It might be happening later for some of us, but it is still happening. More of my friends now own rather than rent. Once a lot of people enter their 30's they will have the income and savings to buy a home. It felt like everyone I knew was buying around the same time as me.
People have fewer IRL experiences, which makes them more neurotic, which creates a greater aversion to IRL experiences, which causes them to have fewer IRL experiences, which makes them more neurotic, which creates a greater aversion to IRL experience, which causes them to have fewer...
Exactly so. The more you think about yourself, the unhappier you are.
Speaking as a 44 year old, your use of IRL in written text is something that didn't exist until at least 2001 or so.
Almost everything happened IRL.
Even then it was only used in SMS chat due to character limitations.
Others I've heard people actually say out loud are LOL, WTF, etc.
It's a clear sign we're of different generations.
I don't mean anything bad, it's just something that stood out.
Safe space, whiny micro aggression types aside, It’s a lot more than just never wanting to be uncomfortable, experience discomfort or bad experiences. The fact of the matter is the cost of living creates an environment where taking risks has a hefty price tag. In order to be willing to take risks people need to feel like failure won’t destroy them. People today (especially men) don’t have that luxury. As far as the culture of cynicism the reason why it exists is because the internet has exposed how the machine works. It’s exposed the truth about how the system operates against us to control us and even if we change the leadership nothing will change because the people who actually control this country have are people who we don’t even know
True!!!
She's not taking into account purchasing power though - our parents and grandparents could spend much more than what we can today.
Yes, it doesn't bother to talk about how much of that money goes to the few top earners, or how the printing press ruined the USD.
Agreed. But I wouldn't expect her to explain, here at least, about the absolute rigged system of capital creation and degraded value of a dollar by the time it reaches the average consumer.
This part… I watched my maximalist childhood turn into the bare necessities when I was shoved out my parents house
That’s completely incorrect
@@briandibblee5238 Okay, keep debating facts, and go see how well that does for you
Smashing it Chris,
Thank you for providing value to us on a consistent basis.
1 million subs soon come 🚀
Inflation and wage stagnation is harming relationships.
It makes perfect sense. Before social media we were competing against our peers in life. Now kids compete against the whole world. You flip through social media and there's always somebody prettier or more successful or just seems to have a better life, and yeah that's depressing for anybody. The answer is we need education, we need to teach kids that social media isn't real life and teach them the dangers of it.
Social Media is total BS. Don't measure yourself against the Social Media darlings. It's fake news.
Social media is real life the same way that the facade everyone else puts on is also real life. That lesson lacks any subtlety and nuance. Shouldn't it be "you're emotions and intuition was not built for the sheer scale of absolute competition present in the world at large, you have to learn to focus on a smaller subset of physically proximate peers and even there you have to keep narrowing your pool of comparisons to people that are close enough to your skill level to allow you to learn from them."
💯 brilliant post, culture of comparison put on steroids.
I doubt social media is worse than growing up under the specter of nuclear annihilation, as boomers did. The difference is that boomers had a real childhood, complete with adventures, free play, and loads of time away from adults. Since the 1980s, kids are under the adult thumb 24/7, and no adventure and precious little play time are allowed. Every generation grows up with real challenge, it’s just that traditional childhood produced more resilient humans. It’s not complicated.
@@meganbaker9116 the threat of nuclear annihilation has not gone away.
As a *late* boomer, who was screwed because every position I ever wanted was filled by an early boomer who was going to stay until they retired, it is still much harder for later generations.
I finally got the promotion, saved the money and retired at 51 to get the hell out of the kids' way.
Its amazing how many boomers were still at several of my former jobs. they were mid -late 70s and still were going strong.
This is very true the early boomers scooped it all up then proceeded to destroy our society. My kids think that as a boomer I had a silver spoon in my mouth but they confuse us with early boomers. Early boomers had hippies and free money and free love and Appollo moon and any job they wanted, we had restructuring ... Recession...Watergate and started our adulthood with 24 percent interest rates ..then the lazy early boomers made fun of our hard work saying all we wanted to do was fight to keep up with the Joneses hence some call us Generation Jones... Though every single generation since this has had it worse I do admit that.
I love what you said at the end. You got your peace and got out of the way for others to get theirs. Amazing.
We need more people like you lol
Ahhhh,,,,so people should have stepped out of the way for you so that you got what you wanted when you wanted it,,,,???
The more i listen the less i trust the statistical analysis here.
For example education, the only thing really mentioned is the certification (highschool and college diplomas) went up. Like that is hardly a valuable statistic.
What do those cerficates mean? Whats pay per certificate? What is readinh level per certificate? What is career availability? Ect.
Like more graduations mean nothing without showing that graduation means a similar level of attainment in education and wealth
'We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.' Chuck Palahnuick was right. Now it's worse for younger gen. It's even more nihilistic, soulless, and bad for people. Start reading what the Stoics had to say, or the Buddha, or Tolstoy for that matter. Go to the great wisdom out there from all civilsations, the principle of Yin and Yang from Taoism, balance being the ultimate goal. It is all there on our phones right now. All the extraordinary collective wisdom of the great sages in all history. We have it at our finger tips. Become an adult.
Accurate. I was born in 89,grew up glued to tv, real life just felt like a long chain of disappointments
boomers really had it easier. my father moved rollers in a paper mill in pittsburgh in his early 20s and paid his rent for 10hrs/mo of his labor. he went to 4 colleges and dropped out 3 times without debt. while working at honeywell he and my mom took multi-week vacations from the us to denmark and scotland throughout the 60s. genx benefited from the defense boom in the 80s and the internet boom in the 90s. millennials had to squeeze theirs in between the the housing crisis and the pandemic.
Half the age range of Gen X was still in highschool during the 80s doubt the defense boom helped them much. Seems like you underestimate the ability of the Me generation (boomers) to screw over everyone coming after them.
This is what I always bring up with regards to the economy.
After the late 60s crash, the west saw economic and population booms for a full 4 decades. Since 2008 there has been a small bump in advertising and a freelance bubble (arguably on the verge of bursting, thanks to corporate and state oversight), and sustained economic and labour force disasters otherwise. Millennials might be earning more, but only in gross figures. Their buying power is paltry, and a majority are not represented by the billions raked in by young nepotists and crypto scammers.
@@alastairthegreat2887 the 80s tech boom mainly gave us wealthy parents and a windfall of home technology and solid hobby time on the evenings and weekends. I'm just a bit less wealthy than parents at my age, but i have no idea how my dad justified being in a relatively highly paid job and just "not working" for hours a day or both days of every weekend.
@@prozacchiwawa Not sure how I compare to my parents when they were my age since I don't have a family or kids, they had a house and 4 kids. My real income would be less but they both worked. Doing really good on retirement savings though.
My issue with boomers is how they have ran my country and have government programs, debt and infrastructure on an untenable trajectory. While also, not investing in any of the programs they benefited from and slashing funding for research because in general they seem anti-science, could be related to the 4th great awakening though.
@@prozacchiwawa You can thank globalization. We're now competing with workers around the world who would gladly kill for our problems and standard of living. Soon, we'll be competing with robots who work 24x7, don't make mistakes, or take sick days.
Cost of living is too high.
Millennials make more money in nominal terms but in real terms there is no way
great comment couldn't have said it better myself.
As a father of two 11 year olds who are about to start secondary school and who I have kept completely off social media and smartphones to date, I am BEGGING for this under 16s ban you talked about. What a no brainer.
What about Gen X? We're still here dammit! Never forget!
Inheritance on the way!
We are going to be the first generation to not receive social security, just you wait. We'll be working until we die.
@@level9drow856 If we can even find work. I'll admit some of my decisions in life led me to where I am however the job market is in tatters right now. I worked 60 hours a week in the 90's and now it looks like I'll have to do it again...for less money.
@@mephestopholes Yea, it's getting scary. This is what happens when a society favors and legislates for corporations over human beings.
You're not interesting enough. You're too normal.
I just graduated college last year and this stuff is RAMPANT. I went to two schools and it was the same at both. The worst part is that the school and professors completely bend to the whims of the students. Endless extensions and mental health days and you dont have to do shit to pass. Everyones “so stressed” and literally doing no schoolwork. Its genuinely concerning, i dont think most older adults realize how bad it is. The most elite schools are still legit from what I’ve heard but i went to a “good school”
That's concerning. I graduated with my BSE in 2010. I can't imagine not flunking out doing what you described all the time.
What schools are these? I go to UT Arlington. That’s not the case here.
State schools and large research schools. Not common at small private colleges. The administration at large state schools has started to see the students as clients of a business rather than students. Therefore, they will get on the faculty members ass to see high pass rates in their courses and to appease the students demands. As a part of my PhD program, I have to teach lab based courses. I have no control over who passes or the final grades- the department will adjust them so that very few students fail. This has lead to me seeing students who couldn't ADD be passed on because the school would rather have high pass rates rather than actually learning. Tenured research professors that have to teach also don't care about the quality of the education they're giving- they are more interested in their research than actually teaching which is why you go to classes where that individual absolutely can't teach at all. The school doesn't care about lecture faculty and pay non tenured staff around $3000/course.
@@user-ts8ec7mm7u depends a lot on major. I went to a big state school and I noticed that shit only happened in marketing, psychology, and other lower skill majors. The ones that actually impact society very much have no extensions or anything
@@badart3204 Yes, really does depend on the major and the overall culture of the school. Unfortunately I teach STEM courses and can promise you that the vast majority are wasting their money being at that school haha
She’s the one who spotted the explosion in narcissism among younger people especially females.
Are the younger people really narcissistic or just acting narcissistic because those are not the same?
@Ni Ni this is a great point. Nowadays the idea is to invest in yourself as a product even on the socio cultural level. This incentivizes what looks like a form of psuedo-narcissism at face value. I think this is exactly why so many people are so radically unhappy today. We're being crammed into a filter of self obsession that most people are uncomfortable with.
@Hstevenson69 there is no difference between thinking of
of yourself constantly and being miserable
I was born in 1958, bought my first new car at 18 and my first California house at 22, I was a Sheriff's Deputy. No young person could do that now. My father co-signed for both loans but I made the payments.
I appreciate you acknowledging this, which a lot of older people won't do. They just want to pretend that everyone has it easy these days when in fact most young people are debt slaves.
My father and mother literally paid for college with summer jobs which is literally impossible to do these days.
The only way we roll this back is discarding every bit of liberalism, and turning back to God. Until that happens this nation is basically finished
No, and living with your parents in your 20s is nothing to be ashamed of now.
@@user-kf1jm9mu1o I have a daughter plus grandsons, nieces and nephews all of which have their acts together, but I pity them for the America they are inheriting.
1:06:46 She is just wrong here. 538 has repeatedly shown the conservative shift for Millennials is NOT happening, they’re remaining much more progressive.
I feel like one thing that these conversations always circle around but never go into detail is the importance Christianity has played in creating communities, and to some degree a macro community like nation states, as well its role in combating some of these problems. Most western nations, and even eastern nations like China, have largely rejected religions in general, and they all have the same symptoms. I remember Chris mentioning that there is an ever decreasing number of people in the US that prescribes to any religion, and at the same time there is an ever increasing number of suicides, mental illnesses, loneliness, etc. I would like to see Chris have an in depth conversation with a pastor or someone with data on that, and see what they may drum up.
Thank you for such an informative discussion. Wonderful interaction and genuine regard for the topic. Chris your talent is to let your guests speak through their thoughts without interuption. Very rare today.
Our work handbook has "No talking about politics". It's great.
This is a rare L. So because I make more money than my parents, we can ignore the fact that housing, education, health insurance and everything else takes up a larger share of my income than my parents did? Oh well, moving on to the next episode.
yes! I worked the same job in 1989 as i do today. Factory worker in 3 shifts. In 1990 if you got your christmas bonus you had 10k DM for 1 month of work. A brand new Ford fiesta was 9999 DM. You could buy a brand new car with one months eranings. Today i get 5k €. Its about the same value. Cheapest car in same category ist 9999€ wich is much more.
DM is Deustch Mark?
@@redwolfungry yes.
Thank you, I found this discussion really interesting.
About the declining dating/mating issues, I wonder how many single heterosexual adults avoid relationships because they dont think the other gender actually likes them. My youtube algoithm shows me so many videos of women saying negative things about men or men saying negative things about women that it becomes easy to believe that men and women don't actually like and want each other.
This is one of the major problems with youtube and ticktoc etc. They disproportionally show negative attitudes. These types of negative videos might not make women dislike men and vice versa, but do they convince men and women that the other gender doesn't like them?
I think this is absolutely happening as I appear to have subconsciously adopted this attitude.
@@celladoor_uk I am sorry that you feel this way. I don't think you are alone. I don't know of you are a man or woman, but for what it is worth to all you men out there, I am a woman and I love men! Sure there are a few bad eggs, but I am continually so grateful for all the wonderful men who have been in my life. Men, you are valuable, and we women need and want you in our families, our romantic lives and in communities.
@@beepowl8006 Nice! More people need to talk like this. It's amazing how long people will remember you when you say something nice about them.
Its more women and men have been gaslighted into believing the other sex wants x,y,z when in reality the other sex doesn't. Men don't want women with money because it doesn't matter to them. Women don't want men who act feminine because they already are feminine. We've taken society and told everyone to act in an unnatural way contrary to what our biological predisposition is. Women are told in order to be fulfilled you need to have a job, skip having children and finding a husband. As a result female suicides are skyrocketting, they are increasingly on anti-depressants and binge drinking. We told men we don't need you and masculinity in fact your masculinity is toxic. Male suicide rates sky rocket men drinking themselves to death increasing violence and drug use. But by God thank God men and women are equal now. Equally hopeless, unfulfilled, suicidal, and depressed. Let's continue one hoping it changes instead of making actual changes to improve mental health and society we're going to continue the fraud.
One of those accursed Boomers here. What do I think of all this...well that would require one episode to myself, but I will throw out a few thoughts.
1. When you kids went through the Recession of 2008-2010, my generation should have thought collectively back to our grandparents. My grandparents youth was spent in the middle of the Great Depression, and for them it never really ended. Good economic times came and went, and my grandparents didn't even realize it. That seems likely to be the case with Millennials as well.
2. At some point it doesn't matter if we were right about your prospects, what mattered is what you believed about your prospects, because those beliefs were what you were going to act upon. And if throwing you a bone at the right time would have made things better--even if it were a really, good-sized bone--we should have done it.
The cost of living started racing away at the same time millennials and some gen z took out students loans as higher education costs skyrocketed, by the time payment plans were settled post 08 crisis families could only watch as purchasing power evaporated and social media rotted communities. The only things most people could afford was escapism into media, drugs, porn, echo chamber content, all the things that play into your sedation hypothesis and provide instant gratification.
You are forgetting the absolute explosion both authoritarianism and immigrants in that time period. I don't think I need to explain why those are of imporatnce.
Phones and social media, envy is the thief of happiness and comparing your self to others on social media if making us depressed. Looks, status and lifestyle envy. When we should and could be happy with what we have.
Interesting discussion, Chris. And really important. Thank you for hosting Jean and for shaping the discussion. So much to consider...
Social media is just one of many factors. More of a symptom, actually. The real culprit lies with western culture being one of "tough independence" and "going it alone" -- not being part of something greater (military, civil service, community involvement). There was a time when we grew up in tight, smaller communities and people looked after - and ratted you out! - each other. Families were living in a smaller geographical footprint, able to see each other routinely.... aunts, grandparents, relatives were involved with raising children that were not their own (it takes a village). This was helped greatly by the fact that mothers (most) did not have to work (due to way lower cost of living) or feel the need to work (to be equal / compete with men - feminist nonsense circa 1960s). We also saw the loss of social clubs and after school programs.... sports leagues, and more. Add in the unchecked growth of harmful technology (mostly to entertain us), and it all starts to decay. For more.... read titles by Robert Putnam, Chris Hedges, Nicholas Carr, Morris Berman, Jonathan Haidt.
Exactly. In the past people where raised by their mother and extended family. Kids today are essentially raised by strangers, media, and whatever they're watching on the internet.
Liberalism is an absolute and total failure
I'm a gen x raising a gen z, sometimes I roll my eyes at my older son when he is fretting about something. We were so unsupervised and wild as kids. It makes me sad for him and his generation. I'm always telling him to go have an adventure.
Older generations had lots of siblings and cousins, which made play wonderful. No equipment needed, just imagination.
Raising kids based on an ideology of a bygone era doesn't translate to the new era and frankly fails often.
The title of this video winds me up! My dad was a labourer. He got a mortgage and brought a nice house in north London.
I'm a paver/pipe layer/plant operator/working foreman. I brought a flat in Manchester when my dad died because they wouldn't give me a mortgage in London with a quarter of a million pound deposit.
I ain't fragile I'm the opposite, I'm livid that we had a great country and all the twats in charge can do apart from worry about their own self interests is manage the decline. The country is in ridiculous amounts of debt. I never got a vote for that.
Life is hard and its pointless to blame. Forge ahead and don't look back.
Great podcast Chris!! Jean is incredibly good to listen to
I think the difference between ages on social media is that older people formed physical friendships before social media happened, they use social media to keep in touch, the young find and form relationships online.
I'm only ten minutes into listening to this and I am already loving it. My daughter is 13 and I hear about her 'anxiety' on the daily over regular life interactions that are all normal. Everything is traumatic to her, even a raised voice or a school project that is due. I have life-long chronic anxiety that I am medicated for so it is hard for me to respond in a sympathetic way but I am working on it. I've realized that teaching my kids resilience is going to be one of the most challenging but necessary life lessons for them since they are learning the opposite from current society.
I just graduated college last year and this stuff is RAMPANT. I went to two schools and it was the same at both. The worst part is that the school and professors completely bend to the whims of the students. Endless extensions and mental health days and you dont have to do shit to pass. Everyones “so stressed” and literally doing no schoolwork. Its genuinely concerning, i dont think most older adults realize how bad it is. The most elite schools are still legit from what I’ve heard but i went to a “good school”
Can you imagine the stress they are under… it’s can’t be all whiny whiny… it’s technology and social stress that took over their minds…. :(
Personality is highly inherited, includes anxiety.
Take away her smartphone and it will be cured in 2 weeks
@@svenmuller5332 she doesn't have a smart phone....and yes, we hear about this daily since most of her friends have them.
When a society endorses mental health and victim mentality…. Then yes of course depression and suicide increases…. Especially when we allow the agenda the pray on the youth which are incredibly impressionable.
Wow, it's rare to see an episode where i am familiar with the persons work prior to watching the episode (my fault not yours Chris, you get brilliant guests haha) but Jean's work was incredibly helpful for me doing my dissertation, she has some really insightful literature on technology and generational differences. This was a great watch!
America produces very fragile and very tough children at once. A kid growing up in inner city Philadelphia aint fragile because they cant afford to be, if they are born in suburban Dallas maybe they are!
I am guilty of being cynical sometimes. It's like a disease of your core, sets into the 'marrow itself.
It's hard not to be a cynic and despondent. It's almost a daily struggle
Another great episode, thank you! Very interesting topic and expert guest. Your questions were on point and you did an excellent job covering so much information. Can’t wait to see you interview this guest again in the future, when she has even more data to review about our younger generations. Fascinating.
At 31:30 I would further posit three additional aspects 1) A more acute awareness of the omnipresent danger in the outside world as propogated by the MSM via smart phones and SM; 2) The decline in the prevalence of children playing outside and being naturally exposed to danger. Exposure to danger reduces fear. Being wrapped in cottonwool fosters an irrational and exagerated sense of fear which is worsened due to a reduction in real-world interactions and never having developed resilience and the ability to 'stand up for yourself' as a child; 3) Government/teachers are viewed as the protector nowdays, as parenting is no longer performed by the parents (who often both work). Government are protectors from all the fear-inducing dangers propogated through the MSM. Teachers propogate the contemporary idealogical zeitgeist, which has created immense division and tribalistic tendencies between various groups, which has instilled a group dependency in order to "fit in". This idealogical state of mind suits the government, because they're created a generation who are more like to obey governnment decree.
The Iron Law: The more urbanized a culture becomes, the more disconnected from reality it gets.
What does that even mean bro?
@@flickwtchrBasically it means too many people and too much concrete, ergo not enough countryside can send you crazy.
@@crowhillian58 Someone gets it.
Jung said, “Neurosis is always a substitute for legitimate suffering.” (Psychology and Religion, 1960). Legitimate suffering comes from trying to wrestle with an uncertain world in order to establish personal meaning.
Wow this episode, interesting start to finish. You are an absolutely incredible interviewer.
Right before she suggested buying an alarm clock on Amazon, I immediately grabbed my phone to do just that.
The elephant in the room is that quality of life for middle and upper middle class has declined significantly. Also the cost of raising the next generation falls directly on the parents but it is primarily society that benefits. What is the point of having children that are raised by poorly paid strangers. They don’t even like you by the time they are 14. This is the case for the vast number of kids.
Yes and no ... I worked nine odd jobs since I was 15 1/2 and had my learners permit before I landed a decent job with a big corp when I was 21. Washing dishes, bussing tables, prep-cook, McDonalds ... did construction ... siding, painting and worked as an Electricians Apprentice before deciding to go back to College. Took four years to get my two year degree while working full time as a draftsman in a dude's basement Engineering office :D Wound up switching into IT and Systems Engineering since I got a foundation for that from schooling (coding since I was 12) and OJT administering CAD equipment. I've always been behind my peers who got their 4-year degrees, but not by too much. So when I was making $5.50/hour, I bought a one bedroom condo, during a real-estate bust, for $20K (at a 9.1% interest rate) in 1990. The same condo is selling for ~$220K today at a 6.5% interest rate. Young people would need to make at $25-$30/hour to be able to afford real estate in the same area today :( The thing to note, I bought my condo during a VERY bad real estate bust cycle - someone paid $42K for the same condo just a few years before I bought it as a foreclosure for less than half the original price.
I appreciate this interview - thanks!
This is why I have disallowed my pre-teen daughter from all social media and a very restricted iPhone settings.
2010+ was a big change on plastic, we removed known hormonal plastics for unknown hormonal plastics.
plastics show up outta nowhere, your bottle, your containers, your appliances, your cars, your gadgets, even your cloths plastic is everywhere and now we are starting to eat plastic too
and who the hell knows if the lead and plastic used not 100 years ago don't have a play?
trauma passes down generations, element contagions wouldnt make any diference down the line?????
I'm not a titled person but boy I can think more scientific
Fascinating, thank you (from a Gen Xer). It would be interesting to also compare schooled children vs home-schooled children.
Anecdotely, the young children I know who have been home-schooled are so markedly different to schooled children... they seem wholesome and grown-up, they know how to look people in the eye, they are industrious and courageous, etc... reminding me of how children used to be years ago... Maybe because they grow up more influenced by adults, learning with and working alongside adults, and being given responsibilities??
Chris, you do great work.
excellent discussion, I'm going to read Twenge's book
She has written more than one. They are all excellent.
People on low incomes are also get help from the state and have a higher probability of being in state funded (and partially funded) housing.
Those kids also tend to grow up in lower socio-economic areas, therefore going to state schools with like-minded kids. Petri dish of failure and underachieving.
As educated would-be parents, we want the best for our potential kids. I for one will not send them to state schools.
The current obsession with mental health and the medicalisation of unhappiness and the capriciousness/unreliable nature of psychiatric diagnoses are doing more harm than good.
A greater focus on combatting loneliness, misery outside of the “mental health” umbrella is needed.
The purchasing power of today vs other generations could been discussed, minimum wages have risen across the globe and overall peple have more money but what you can do with that money diminished, the price of common goods and housing increased exponentially.
I really like the information she brought, but Chris and her ignoring those metrics seems off. Same way with higher degrees, more people are getting their degrees but also, there is a higher demand with that being a defining factor whether you're hired or not.
Anything else she got wrong?
For example I don't get why I keep seeing studies saying boomers have a disproportionate share of the nations wealth. Clearly shown by the ever increasing wealth inequality in the country based around age.
Yet according to her that's not true. Is she misinterpreting the data or was it me who was... I don't get it
I've often thought about the fact that when I was a kid (in the 70s) people in my world bought way less stuff they didn't need. My parents were teachers, so they were doing okay, but they were very careful with their money and saved for trips & eventually a nicer house. But they didn't buy a lot of "stuff".
Well yeah, I agree that we millennials are more self-centered in a fair amount of aspects. However, not necessarily in the detrimental sense though, as from what I recall our parent's theme was to drive us to strive for more. Going after the dream job or aiming for the "skies" so to speak. Consequence is that there was never a real emphasis on comunity & responsability in my experience.
I adore my grandmother & -father (the silent generation) who just seemed satisfied with what they had & exude virtue regardless of the times. There's much to say but compared to my Boomer parents their attitude towards life is just two worlds apart in my experience. I inherited an overachievers obsession which did me no favors when it comes to life fulfillment.
Hey Lady! Even if Millennials are making more money there is inflation and crazy costs of living, more bureaucracy, crappier dating market, and moral degeneracy. I'm glad your little book makes you feel better about yourself.
Old people have to constantly cope with the fact that they let a once thriving nation crumble to dust. They cant admit that all the liberal ideas they still champion have destroyed the very foundation of civilization. Let them live in delusion, it doesn't even matter anymore lol.
Housing is insane up here in Canada. I would love Jean to actually crunch our numbers up here because her eyeballs would pop out of her head after she see's just what the interest and taxes on payments are up here, let along the principal that inevitably needs to be paid back.
This woman is delusional and dogmatic. She's definitely in denial and attempting to feed her ego through coping with bs.
I see a lot of people these days putting the blame on the nebulous "society" for all of their problems. I know I am prone to believe it too, it helps shift the accountability and responsibility off of yourself. While it's easier to believe so, the unfortunate side effect is that it makes you feel powerless over your life. I would bet this is where risk aversion comes in. I felt very much that way when I was younger, but as I get older, I am realizing more and more that I can take control of things. I fear the social contagion aspect is making the younger generation feel powerless and fearful of a world that is out to get them in every possible.
You know what's the biggest issue younger generations face that is barely ever talked about? You cannot have any altercation outside of the legal system anymore. Punch someone, that's on your record, everyone's running to the police, to a lawyer, to a guardian, whatever, with everything and that's created a culture of social fear and made people into scared weaklings that have no idea about harm levels, violence, controlling a situation and so on and so forth. No, I am not advocating going around punching people, but I am advocating to not make things into something that they aren't, because that's breaking the youth.
In the past a kid had an altercation or made a mistake. It hurt and they learned from it. Then it was forgotten. Now days any altercation, or mistake can stay on record for years, which means many kids don’t try anything out of fear. Sure you don’t want them hurting people or getting in harm. But on occasion they need to have these human moments, and learn how to deal with them. Otherwise they can’t grow into a better person.
@@DD-xw6uw Yes, absolutely. It's not about some rogue justice or might makes right, it's about learning to navigate these situations and grow as a person. It's a vital calibrating mechanism that we completely threw out the window and replaced with fear of reputation loss entirely.
@@felixmerz6229 I had many of these moments as a kid. Things like hitting other kids, swearing, getting bruised. They hurt. If I didn’t experience that hurt I would never have learned about consequences and good behaviour. As much as a textbook or adult can say “don’t do x. It’s bad”, no-one can truly learn all those lessons until they make mistakes.
@@DD-xw6uw And we know that to be true as well, and we also know the consequences of children who aren't getting the chance to calibrate properly, they'll become socially inept weirdos and suffer from mental health issues.
Very much agree. If I hadn’t done combat sports I likely would have become a cowardly shrimp. The environment heavily punishes conflict which makes everyone more fearful and risk averse
This generation mudslinging is very pointless, as far as it seems times change, but for the most part, each generation is the same in terms of self growth. We grew during different times, and today, things are easier and harder all in different ways. When i got out of high school, it was during the recession. When i applied to the job i have now, i was told during an interview that i just wasnt not experienced enough to do what they litterally take anyone off the street, who can count, drive, and identify labels, to do. They wanted to pretend it took 6 years of precious experience to work in a warehouse and drive a forklift. Warehouse jobs are literally filled by the lowest common denominator. I believe I was told this because of the experience vs education argument.
Its the same today, i have heard this myself quite recently
My dad bought his house in 1984 for 67,000. Now the average house price in the same area is over 1 million.
How in the f*ck do we have it better exactly?!
We don't. She's full of it, and so is Chris' attempt to paint this woman as a reputable source.
In Australia. House was $50K for my boomer parents now its $500K in basically the Australian Ghetto outer suburbs. Up in the city area went from 200K to 1.2-15 million.
What was the interest rate on that mortgage in 1984? I bet it was double digits.
@@samobispo1527 Hey that’s a good point! Still, I’ll take a $67,000 house with a 12% interest rate over $1,000,000 for the same house with a 6% interest rate any day.
@@MountainBlade Agreed. However, in the 1970s and 1980s, mortgage rates were sometimes as high as 22% interest! Money Printer had gone ‘bbrrr’ in the 1960s.
Excellent interview.
Social media is the reason for all of this😂
This was starting way before social media. It's definitely a problem, but it's not the root.
Before social media we had the self-esteem movement, so basically encouraging people to be more narcissistic and egotistical.
We've also had the decline of the nuclear and wider family over the last 70 years. Social media will certainly aggravate these issues, but it certainly wasn't around at the start of the decline.
I don't know ONE SINGLE Millennial making more than their parents did (inflation and cost of living adjusted). UNLESS, they are children of immigrants that came from way worse circumstances. But the majority of North American born people (more than 2nd generation immigrants) are making less than their parents even if they have a higher skill labour. I'm speaking from Canada, maybe it's been different in America. Look at any graph showing disposable income and that is all you need to know (data from FRED, check it for yourself) and the cost of living has increased at a much faster pace than the wages have. Denying this and just slapping at "they're dramatic" is nothing short of gaslighting, in my opinion.
I, however, agree that there is a general lack of mental strength in people of Millennials and Gen Z, specially gen Z. But saying "they're lying, they make more than their parents" is just... LOL. Go on FRED for 5 minutes and this is quickly refuted.
I was the first to be hired on my team after a wave of retirements and many of my co-workers are tail-end Boomers and they all recognize it was easier for them. THey were way more allowed to take risks and do "the wrong thing" because the consequences of that were much smaller than today. In conversation about things the youth tends to do, such as drug experimentation, even that back in the day was way safer to do since the chances of taking something laced with deadly substances was much lower. Now young people can not do drugs ever and be "good kids" and just ONE night of bad luck trying out anything can be laced with fentanyl and kill you. This is just a random example, but on most things that young people get to enjoy we got way less than Boomers. And this is not a butthurt millenial saying it, I have a good job, never been on any medication for mental health, exercise 4 times a week and own property, so def not your typical "lazy and dramatic millenial". This was my own Boomer co-workers recognizing this. Admitting that our society has gone down in standard because two entire generations just sat down taking in 5% gains on the stockmarket and never said anything about the FED printing their hearts out is too hurtful for people so just "blaming young people" is easier than recognizing that the society you helped build sucked for younger generations.
Right on! It's outrageous to talk about house income being the same while ignoring higher education investment and achievement plus dual income being much closer (meaning each party being closer to half rather than one bread winner and supplemental income from the other)
Honestly of her stats sounded like "line goes up" therefore good or not bad, even though she didn't ever dip into does that actually mean anything good
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41:12 Where did you get this 30:1 couple-to-child stat? I'd like to use this.
In the U.S many people work 50 to 80 hrs a week, me included at 54 years old, just to keep a roof over our heads. My kids are 17 and 19, Didnt finish high school and 19 yr old is going to start his first job next week. He is signed up for job corp, just waiting for placement. He suffers social anxiety and depression, which I believe is situational. He chose to use medication to help. I cannot afford to get our own place so our home life is toxic. My 17 yr old, also dropped by school, is a type 1diabetic. He doesn't want to do anything but play games and sleep and eat. I am hopeful he will follow his brother's footsteps and be motivated to get a job soon. Neither have drivers license because I can't afford to pay for their insurance, so they have to be over 18 and have a job to pay for it themselves. I see lots of people who have kids who barely work or not at all, get food stamps, cash aid, free medical and housing, to help pay for their kids. As well,, as many are drug users.
Where I live, and individual would need to make $33 /hr to afford a studio apartment on their own. 2x what I make an hr. Ridiculous.
I wish I could of been a stay at home mom. My kids would be better off, most likely. Instead, I've worked their entire lives, other than maternity leave and once for 10 months when my youngest was 2 because I was completely exhausted.
I totally see why a lot of younger adults don't want kids
US sounds more and more like a 2nd world country. Sorry, I don't say that to make you feel bad but I hear more and more about these stories coming out of America-gun violence, drug epidemics, 60% of people living pay check to pay check, little or no welfare to catch the fallen, homelessness.
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It's stupid here. Where I live has the highest cost of living in the state now, due to lack of housing.
Food cost so much. My 19 year old just got a job at walmart for 2.25$ an hour over min wage. In 2019 I was going to work at walmart but was only starting at 50cents over min wage. And I had worked more than 5 years at walmart before. Left on good terms. Plus I have decades of working. Crazy. We will get through it.
Best to you
@@sams1745 first Thing i would do is take away the games from the 17 year old
This is the wreckage of liberalism and feminism. The people who pushed these ideologies used them as a weapon to undermine the foundation of civilization, the nuclear family.
The more liberal our nation becomes the worse everything gets. I cannot understand how people dont see this.
@@MrMark595 imperial chickens are coming home to roost.
Gen X scrolling the comments , happily being overlooked , again 😗
You don't exist. You just managed to become boomers yourselfes
We are a humorless society and it started happening around 2015. It's to the point where people don't even laugh at farts. How can you not laugh at farts? That's one of the funniest things known to man.
Kids do
RIP farts
@@myleshagar9722 Interestingly the oldest written joke is actually a fart joke
I find farts just as funny now as I did when I was 8 years old
Fart jokes are funny probably to 2-5-year-olds or maybe 8 ish but after that it should be age appropriate unless one's emotional growth is stuck and they are still carrying their 5 year old self.
Chris you are an excellent interviewer!
My strong criticism of saying "housing is part of the inflation calculation" is that the calculation of the cost of housing is deeply flawed.
No shit my parents house went up more than 4x in less than 20 years in Canada. 250K to 1.2 mill. Its nuts!
I'm reading her new book right now. It's fantastic!
She writes very well!
If millennials are making more money, that just shows the price of everything rose even faster.
They aren't. There is plenty to pick apart with current stats, bit if you look at 08 to current day they were doing worse from being in the great recession. There is also plenty of indicators to be worried for another recession going forward...
At best at current times milenials house income matches or exceeds gen x in this tiny blip of the gens life span. At worst house income is a terrible stat for determining a generations economic standing at a given time and is hiding a different picture
Clicked faster than a beta buying a house for a single mom !
Great conversation. Thank you
Kids are being taught that founding fathers are villains. No mystery there.
Exactly. Society is much different from back then and they aren't taught that fact. They're taught that the founding fathers should have thought about them when founding the country lol!
They are not villains, if so than we are all villains since the flesh is corruptible without God.
Dr. Twenge mentioned the Amish @22:10. Reading a book about "Happiness" about 15 years ago, the author described the Amish as being the happiest group of people because they have both individually and collectively: accountability TO others; accountability FROM others; someone to love and something to do (work). The author described those 4 keys as fundamental to happiness for humans.
The biggest missing piece in this conversation related to why people aren't having kids is related to the intense amount of parenting that is necessary to make a financially successful child. Someone growing up as a boomer could easily work a relatively low skill job and still manage to afford a house in a decent neighborhood and avoid the social ills of poverty. They just needed to be willing to work. This reminds me of my grandfather, who--- with almost no training--- began working at the post office as a delivery guy and was able to afford a house on HIS INCOME ALONE and support 4 kids with 0 government assistance. There's absolutely no way anyone with a high school degree and a pulse could pull this off now a days. In my area, to achieve this same feat, you need to be an engineer, at least. So what does that mean?
It means that any parent wanting to raise kids knows that--- to give their own kid a good shake at life--- they'll need to spend significantly more time and effort to get their kids the superior education and training to live a middle class life (and what's more, to help them understand their natural aptitude.) And in order to achieve that you need to spend more time and attention on your kids, make sure you have a good house in a good school district, get ready to support them as they are trying and failing to discover what it is in adulthood that will lead them to a skilled profession, etc. It's a lot more complicated than it used to be.
Not to mention after all that, the kid might just not care about your plan for his life. They usually don't.
I’m a 43 year old bachelor and I can tell you, Dr. Peterson was right. Life gets pretty lonely after 40 without a family. I hope young people correct course.
For women it is. But for men like us it's probably a Godsend to be alone.
@@gabrielpacana8596 I don't know if one can generalize by sex. I know older women in that category (like me), and they're not lonely. I'm sure there are others who are, of course.
I'm a 60 year old woman living alone. Early retired and not lonely. Have hobbies and friends.
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For women it isn't. Women have friends.
@@gabrielpacana8596 Widowed/divorced men are more likely to off themselves so maybe better not to have loved
Social media algorithms are scrambling brains
Their sense of time - or rather complete lack of it - tells me, yes they had it pathologically easy.
I use to keep my phone in another room, but it is the receiver for my kid's CGM. He sleeps strait through alarms so I have to also get alerts.
I hear this "girls are getting more degrees" statement all of the time, but the follow up question I have never heard asked. What are the degrees in? The answer is, mostly not STEM degrees, but social degrees. Degrees that really don't equate into high paying jobs. About half of the degrees that boys are getting are STEM related, which does translate into high paying jobs.
Women were injected into the workforce to drive down wages. Same thing is happening today with the never ending flow of legal and illegal immigrants. Women and liberals will never allow themselves to admit that they are just useful idiots, and tools for the ruling class.
Not so much anymore. I got an IT degree and call center work is about it. Then again I can't legally drive due to a disability so maybe that has more to do with the high paying site work jobs and not a shitty call center job.
@@phoenixrising4995 Transportation problems can be a problem as many people commute descent distances.
At some point screentime simply becomes opportunity cost.
A life has to be lived and a culture has to be created.
Take your guess how much of screentime is rather wasted lifetime that could have been spent on relationships, learning, moving your body or other things that dont leave you empty afterwards.
Excellent comment.
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appreciate you covering this topic, nonetheless
The reality is large swaths of the population from my generation have grown up in some of the most prosperous and comfortable times in human history, as a by-product they are inevitably going to become extremely fragile.
Those of us who become the outliers are the ones who self impose suffering and discomfort; through physical training and mentally stimulating activities.
I seek to help people along that journey and help them actualise their highest potential
No you’re just an egoist is seeking attention by selling out your own generation for validation. Here’s a tip if you want to be a leader, don’t sell out the people you want to lead, take responsibility, don’t speak for your pact without first addressing your flaws and how you overcame them. Good luck, your on a bad start already though, hopefully you get some humility.
Very true. Do hard things voluntarily.
Wow, you are like so very impressive bro as a self-described "outlier".
@@brianmeen2158 You mean like what the person you are responding to is doing? And what you are doing? Where exactly is the difference?
@@flickwtchr 😂 he is an outlier, like way way outlier. We should call him 6-sigma.
Income is a legitimate reason to not have children, I don’t feel like her stats take everything into account. I make six figures and can’t afford a home and I don’t live in an expensive state, nor do I have any debt.
I think social media is the other major portion as it causes major problems with comparison. Everyone’s life seems to be on public display, especially women, so if you have a boyfriend that you aren’t confident to show off to someone you admire and follow, you aren’t going to go out with them.
Men are less driven, actively discouraged, and there are so many ways to cope.
Income is a major factor, but when it’s combined with social media, the equality of income, obesity, and all the ways men can escape inwards… we’re heading towards a world with a lot of lonely people
Her stats are rather crap unless she has more defenses that she didn't bring up.
Me: "but I don't have problems with my phone"
Me: *is watching this on my phone while cooking dinner*
Me: ok fine, I'll go touch some grass..... later.... I just need to watch one more video as I finish cooking
Some are saying Boomers had it easier but thats 1/2 truth. Boomers stareted out way poorer and had no real excuses to not go to war when asked, but then the rising wave of the economy and technologies creating all kinds of new jobs while the income to cost ratio was extremely favorable. This allowed Boomers to own property, raise kids, have 2 cars etc, on one income. Now everyone after has steadily not, had to go to war, ( unleast volunteering) started out in middle class neighborhoods ( this conversation is not really about young people growing up in gettos. So im not factoring that in) and continue to buck up against having to have a higher education to afford less
My phone is my alarm clock. Also I've never, not once, used my phone in bed. I hate the thing as is.
Put your phone away for one hour a day. Increase to two when you can. Rinse and repeat. Build a habit. Read an intelligent book. Pretty soon, you'll be able to take on the world.
Knowing what we now know, I find it interesting how most societies will make a teenager wait until they are 18 or 21 to have a beer but they will allow kids to do a drug like TikTok from the wee age of whatever. Is it because parents are more worried about upsetting their kids than doing what is best for them? Withdrawal tantrums might be bad but they beat the possibility of self-deletion
A whole generation is screwed and have become living zombies. So horrid. Parents should have been watching 👀. Very tragic. The end is nigh. 😮