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222 vs 223 Remington
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Love the 222 Remington
This guy is a walking encyclopidia on guns and ammo😉👍
The guy is more an encyclopedia on ammo than actual guns
He's got the look to fit that as well
The longer case neck of the .222 Rem made it more accurate. It was shortened in the .223 Rem because a shorter neck feeds better in autoloading rifles.
How does the length of a cases neck affect accuracy?
@@Coyote-wm5opa longer case neck holds tighter and straighter the bullet thus stabilising better the bullet while entering the barrel
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The .223 Remington (designated as the 223 Remington by the SAAMI[4] and 223 Rem by the CIP[5]) is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge. It was developed in 1957 by Remington Arms and Fairchild Industries for the U.S. Continental Army Command of the United States Army as part of a project to create a small-caliber, high-velocity firearm. The .223 Remington is considered one of the most popular common-use cartridges and is currently used by a wide range of semi-automatic and manual-action rifles as well as handguns.
In south Texas, during the 1970s, the 222 was a popular centerfire round available in smaller and lighter "Youth" rifle. It was often assigned to four season truck gun duty and was, of course, useful for ladies and young people.
I just saw some yellow and green .222 boxes at my local Walmart in April 2023!😂
Glad to see it back on the shelf. I'll miss it being 9.99 a box , I usually got some from my grandfather for Christmas and birthdays
222 Rem is pretty popular in Spain for AR15 because 223 and 5,56x45 are banned.
Why did they ban a common caliber
@@yangionet8116 because it's considered a "war caliber"...
@@J.Hunter7mmRemMagand of course there is no practical difference, anti gunners are so ignorant, hello from Florida!
In France we've got the same legal problem, .223 and 7.62x39 are considered "war calibers" and banned (while 7.62x54r, .308 W, .303 Br, 30-06 and even .50 BMG are allowed for hunting and shooting...), that's why .222 is still popular, and all manufacturers rechamber their rifles in .222. But still, semi auto rifle with a capacity more than 3 rounds are also banned... We end up with straight pull o pump action AR15...
@@aichacheyppe6854that's surprising here in the states they let us hunt with the .223 rem I started using it along with my 243 instead of my 30-06
I have an older 222 Remington, my favorite gun. Hard to come by ammo but I'll be reloading them here shortly so no issues there.
But the 222 is a wonderful varmint round. Shot around 25 red foxes with it. 45 grain vmax. ❤
And, the rest of the story is quite facinating.
Took my first deer with grandpa's 222
Getting a 222 Remington barrel for my TC today, along with a 22 Hornet. Wouldn’t you know it I walked in to my local bass pro this week and right on the shelf was boxes of ammo for both.
Anyone else hear a smoke alarm go off?
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In Texas at least up until the 80s or 90s the .222 was responsible for lots of deer harvests. Head shooting accuracy but if you went to the body it wreaked havoc in the chest cavity. My grandfather hunted with one forever - shot all his deer center shoulder not behind the shoulder with that little 52gr bullet and oddly, never lost a deer. I hunted with one as well Remington 600 Mohawk w vented ribbed barrel and never had the guts to go center shoulder like grandad. I killed a buck with that gun just by flipping the safety off one day. The old Remington ghost firing deal
Some consider the .243 W as the bare minimum for deer hunting, so .223 is out, not to mention the .222. (In the UK a 6mm bullet in the smallest legal bullet diameter for deer and board hunting, in France it's the .222 r)
@@aichacheyppe6854perfectly legal in my state.
I didn't know the M788 and M600 would discharge that way. I knew the M700 (and 721, 722, 725) had that issue. My 721 and 722 have both done it. Keep that trigger housing clean!
222 very popular in Scotland
I still shoot and prefer the 222.
I love my Savage 223 for varmint
I believe the .222 was used in texas before the 1970 s. Atleast once in 1963
223 the cartridge everybody loves to love
My go to calibre and i own two 223 rifles. Taken more animals with the 222 than any other. And before you assume im 98 years old im only 35
.222 R is a great variety and predator caliber, but would say it's enough for deer hunting ? At what max distance ? Rgds
I love the 222, accurate as all get out! I still shoot it.
Cheap brass and goes faster won out over a couple tenths of inch better in group size.
Looking back as a selection for a military cartridge, I don't know if you had as much room for powder and the maximum velocities, depending on bullet weight, but with that long neck and the shorter OAL, you could probably fit a very long very high BC high SD bullet in there.
But the standard AR-15 rifle cycle the .222 Remington
I thought The .223 was created in 1957 and adopted by the military in 1964 the adapted to be 5.56?
Any videos on .221 fireball
Please change your smoke detector batteries. You had me thinking mine was low
.222 rem was the bench rest competition cartidge of choice before the ppc line finally over took it. 223 rem and 5.56 are not identical . The case capacity of the 5.56 is slightly less than .223 for the same powder charge. This is due to thicker lower case walls and heads. 5.56 military primers are heavy cup magnum primers .for cold weather reliability.
223 rem are standard small rifle primers. The chamber drawings differ drastically with longer free bore/ chamber throat and sloping rifling onset and very slightly larger diameter chamber itself with the 5.56 and a shorter free bore and sharper rifling onset and tighter tollorences . One for reliable rifle operation and cartidge feeding of high pressure ammo in adverse conditions , one for the best accuracy and consistency of shot placement. They even measure pressure in different areas between military and Saami chambers. Saami on center of case body and military mesures case neck pressure. So while they may both say 55,000 psi max , one is peak chamber pressure as the bullet realeases ,one is operating pressure .what's pushing on the bullet itself peak chamber pressure has been found to be 62.500-65,000 psi for 5.56. this is why it has the same velocity from a 20 inch barrel as the .223rem does for a 24 inch barrel. At one point they even had differant over all lengths 2.555 and 2.600 inches. It's deep rabbit hole ,cartridge nerd stuff. The .5.56 not being safe in a .223 chamber is true. But generally the trouble happens when it's a hot sunny day with a hot rifle already at minimum chamber specs and very warm ammo. Tollorences shrink in the rifle from thermal expansion , pressures spike from ambient temperature and an also thermally expanded casing . The Situations stack and things occasionally go boom from it. More likely ,you'll blow a case head and goose egg your barrel at the rifling onset .
Thanks for that exhaustive list, Corey. Always safest to shoot 223 Rem headstamp ammo in a 223 rollstamp barrel.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors yeppers, it is the best choice. For the folks who need to know why before they listen, that's why and they don't have to take my word for it . They can find out the same info through enough studying. When I took my course for gunsmithing and firearms expert( expert witness , and design ) I found the old Patrick Sweeney gunsmithing books and writings , writings from David Fortier, and the info in my course segment that was written by Jim L. Sullivan to pretty well cover all bases.
I got a little lost there since I’m not a native English speaking person but are you saying that the 223 is more safe when the temperature fluctuates? Thanks!
huge difference: one fires out of an ar 15 and one doesn’t
Actually, that is not a significant difference. You can easily chamber an AR upper for 222 Rem. instead of 223 Rem.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors Yea Lol. it’s just how most of 223 looks more like a ar round then 222
You forgot that it was 222, then 222 magnum, then 223 and 5.56
I didn't forget, James. This is just a short bit of info, not the whole story.
Change the batteries in your smoke detector Ron
Well it didnt went to the graveyard it was adopted by the Russians replacing the 7.62x39
So what??? Is the 222 slower? Less velocity?
Yes, 222 Rem is about 150- to 200 fps slower with same bullets.
223 is great
Come on Ron, you know better than that! .223 Rem IS NOT aka 5.56 Nato, it is a different cartridge and you are dispensing false information by saying that it is!
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