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  • In an exclusive interview with NewsNation, a friend of one of the suspects charged with the murder of the missing Kansas moms said he was shocked by the killings. Vincent Forbes, a local municipal court judge who says he’s a friend of suspect Tad Cullum, 43, expressed disbelief at the unfolding events. NewsNation national correspondent Brian Entin tells NewsNation's
    Ashleigh Banfield that since speaking out, Forbes has now been forced to resign.
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  • @debl9957
    @debl9957 Місяць тому +676

    This is what journalism used to be - thank you!

    • @DeeLite220
      @DeeLite220 Місяць тому +53

      Really got to hand it to them. But also hope they stay safe. If the locals are afraid to talk.. you know? Creepy.

    • @EASTSIDERIDER707
      @EASTSIDERIDER707 Місяць тому +26

      It’s these smaller news outlets may be the last gasp of truth.

    • @darlenemitchell5402
      @darlenemitchell5402 Місяць тому +10

      Exactly

    • @thedude4594
      @thedude4594 Місяць тому +7

      They got an old man fired for no reason.

    • @darlenemitchell5402
      @darlenemitchell5402 Місяць тому +8

      @@thedude4594 but I’m not going to let up on this guy just because he Says he didn’t really know they people were capable of of such horrible acts Because if the whole town knows and are scared of these people , he surly had to know Something wasn’t right about all them people . He has enough smarts to hold that position/college he has to have a tad bit knowledge of peoples true self/Character.

  • @asthecrowflies737
    @asthecrowflies737 Місяць тому +174

    Time to question the Mayor. Telling the judge he had to resign is suspicious in and of itself.

  • @johnmacdonald1878
    @johnmacdonald1878 Місяць тому +541

    maybe the mayor should resign

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому +44

      I was just thinking the mayor probably is madder than a wet hornet now because the judge was shooting off his mouth. And is afraid of what else he might say to God knows who.. I detect a made for TV movie to come from this...

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 Місяць тому

      Netflix already called a writers' meeting ​@@PK-bh1ww

    • @susanpurdy986
      @susanpurdy986 Місяць тому +15

      ​@@PK-bh1wwI'd watch it 😮

    • @brenda4085
      @brenda4085 Місяць тому +25

      Honestly it was stupid of the judge to comment it makes them look bad so I kind of understand. It's a conflict of interest for sure.

    • @SoundofSilence492
      @SoundofSilence492 Місяць тому +24

      @@brenda4085 Judge was between a rock and a hard spot. The interview was an effort to clear his name and distance himself from the perpetrators to the community at large. They all know each other, and had to have known he had business dealings. I think he was gonna take a fall anyway. Who would trust him if he hadn’t spoken up? Murderers for the most part are pretty stupid because they have obvious emotional ties to their victims. What third grader couldn’t have figured this out? How did they think they would ever get away with it? I hope the mom’s family lives far away and is able to get her children out of that hellhole; that they don’t wind up in foster care on top of everything else.

  • @stormrunner0029
    @stormrunner0029 Місяць тому +552

    Not pointing any fingers,but if anything is going on in a small community, the Mayor usually knows about it.

    • @Colleensue
      @Colleensue Місяць тому +18

      Your absolutely right.

    • @ebomoreno8119
      @ebomoreno8119 Місяць тому +11

      Yep!

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 Місяць тому +20

      As well as the Chief of Police...

    • @joanevans7034
      @joanevans7034 Місяць тому +8

      As well as the municipal court judge

    • @bn8579
      @bn8579 Місяць тому +3

      Mayor and police chief usually

  • @waupfoo
    @waupfoo Місяць тому +450

    This reporter here is the goat, interview in the car and asked some good questions👍👍👍👍👍Now the judge is out! Wow

    • @mothernature8893
      @mothernature8893 Місяць тому +61

      Maybe they need to look into the mayor.

    • @drowe2
      @drowe2 Місяць тому +46

      Brian Entin rocks! He’s been involved in many national incidents out of Idaho - UofI massacre, Lori Vallow, and even the Watts case from colorado

    • @JK-lp6uw
      @JK-lp6uw Місяць тому +3

      ​@@mothernature8893why??
      Get a grip. Ya'll starting to slip further into the abyss of idiocy.

    • @Grammie-hk5vb
      @Grammie-hk5vb Місяць тому +10

      Please tell me what "goat" means I see it all the time and don't know. 🌹

    • @nogames8982
      @nogames8982 Місяць тому +18

      @@Grammie-hk5vb greatest of all time

  • @deedsterdoo1603
    @deedsterdoo1603 Місяць тому +341

    I certainly hope there is more to learn about why the judge had to resign over a mere interview. Perhaps there is more to come...

    • @kathyauwarter5057
      @kathyauwarter5057 Місяць тому +72

      The judge is my cousin. He is the judge in a town not connected. However, him being involved at all with Tad is what the community is angry about. You just DONT admit that kind of thing in these small communities

    • @AM1999
      @AM1999 Місяць тому +19

      @@kathyauwarter5057 was he involved with the custody case?

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 Місяць тому +72

      courts dont want a judge whos on tv talking about what a good friend a murderer is

    • @coleengogerty3852
      @coleengogerty3852 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@bambooprincess3495sorry but that’s a load of nonsense. There is zero evidence to support the idea that a judge can’t be effective because someone he thought he knew decided to be an evil monster and murder two women. The only person being honest in that area Is The Judge. He didn’t violate any oath nor did he do anything illegal. His name will be in the public records because he happened to be there at the time of the FBI raid. So his name was going to be or was already out there. Sure he could say no comment. But perhaps he felt compelled to tell the truth of what he knew. I guess you all would prefer him to keep secrets about those murderers instead of help get them justice. Your thought process is completely backwards. A judge stands for justice and truth and this judge is doing just that.

    • @coleengogerty3852
      @coleengogerty3852 Місяць тому +50

      @@bbloodyangel1no people don’t want to hear the truth and would rather hide and keep secrets. As a judge he felt compelled to be honest and instead he gets accused of being the bad guy. Your narrative is completely backwards. He didn’t defend the actions at all.

  • @lorenheard2561
    @lorenheard2561 Місяць тому +350

    Maybe the Mayor needs to be looked into.... Suspicious to me...Getting rid of the Judge..

    • @suzanneflowers2230
      @suzanneflowers2230 Місяць тому +17

      Me, too. The judge said nothing inappropriate.

    • @justzev
      @justzev Місяць тому +13

      yeah, that's really suspicious. i work in the legal system in a state with lots of small rural communities, and of course judges know people within their communities - they went to high school with them, they were their lawyer before they were a judge, they coached their kids in little league, they were business partners, etc. normal protocol is just to recuse themselves from cases involving people they personally know in order to avoid conflicts of interest. you don't just force the judges out or we'd have no judges left.

    • @justzev
      @justzev Місяць тому

      @@CorinnaCarrillo-ps2zc oh, look, another 12 year old in the youtube comment section. that's new. 🙄

    • @Lavendernoctem
      @Lavendernoctem Місяць тому +2

      Trust me that judge had it coming, it was MUCH more than the interview, he was VERY corrupt and it was bound to happen with or without the interview. The Mayor did the right thing and is a great guy who is protecting his community. I have been around both individuals and if I had to choose one to trust, it would be the mayor. I’m not from the town, but I visit there often and know many who live there.

    • @bbe3034
      @bbe3034 Місяць тому

      The judge is he guy who gave the children to the murderer, the grandmother!!

  • @user-ip9bh1lp6o
    @user-ip9bh1lp6o Місяць тому +475

    That Mayor sure acts like he is involved.

    • @whitneyweber6404
      @whitneyweber6404 Місяць тому

      No. The judge is the one who was friends with the murderers. The mayor now wants judge to resign after talking to media publicly.

    • @HiltonHoskins
      @HiltonHoskins Місяць тому

      I wouldn't be surprised. Cults have been known to encourage their members to get government positions.

    • @kevinbarry3548
      @kevinbarry3548 Місяць тому +31

      What's the Mayor trying to hide?

    • @jameskemp8287
      @jameskemp8287 Місяць тому

      Sounds like Mayor is in the cult. I mean how he get elected Mayor in the first place... in a town where everyone is afraid of the cult... wouldn't the cult put this guy as the Mayor? OR have I watched too much true crime shows. Lol

    • @mattg4836
      @mattg4836 Місяць тому +3

      I thought the exact opposite

  • @curly__3
    @curly__3 Місяць тому +333

    Shows you how legitimate our court systems are... Especially our local and state courts.

    • @joansmith6844
      @joansmith6844 Місяць тому +12

      @@bambooprincess3495that’s because there’s many more like him in that court system they don’t want fingers pointing at them now .. go em all .. they all need to resign open up that case of worms .. like A ) Veronica lawyer seems like a blow over dumb sht

    • @JK-lp6uw
      @JK-lp6uw Місяць тому +3

      ​@@joansmith6844you have all the answers. Don't be shallow or judgemental.

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Місяць тому

      Working as design.

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Місяць тому

      ​@@JK-lp6uwKaren is mad.

    • @TheArcadeLink
      @TheArcadeLink Місяць тому +8

      I do not think he would have been removed, if this interaction hadn't been recorded.

  • @leelaural
    @leelaural Місяць тому +321

    sounds like good ol boy network.....

    • @steveb8306
      @steveb8306 Місяць тому +9

      I can hear the banjos playing 😂

    • @lulubells930
      @lulubells930 Місяць тому

      Good ole boys exist in every town, city, state… everywhere! It’s pretty impossible for justice when you have lying cops, judges, lawyers, etc. Even when you have witnesses about something… it doesn’t matter. We lose. 😢

    • @mr.b3591
      @mr.b3591 Місяць тому +11

      Its thick... do a DNA and 90% town related

    • @happydayz7857
      @happydayz7857 Місяць тому

      Welcome to Oklahoma. You’re stepping back into a very barbaric era.

  • @lindakato8583
    @lindakato8583 Місяць тому +144

    No wonder people were afraid of talking about this case when even the judge was cozy with them.

    • @justicedenyd
      @justicedenyd Місяць тому +18

      ​@@Plutogalaxy Let's not be naive. He's still a judge and no doubt has connections with others who are in power within the judicial system and law enforcement and business. Small town good ole boys network.

    • @aliciaa5894
      @aliciaa5894 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly. This must be how the grandma got info on the other judge

    • @joanevans7034
      @joanevans7034 Місяць тому

      @@justicedenyd Yep.

  • @bbloodyangel1
    @bbloodyangel1 Місяць тому +137

    I mean the judge was there at his house and then later said "this IS my friend" after the dude was arrested for murder.... dude

    • @naturistfred
      @naturistfred Місяць тому +17

      Was he forced to resign because they suspect he's more involved than he lets on? Could be.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome Місяць тому +4

      Judges cousin comments above small towns don't like that he revealed his association with Tad it destroyed his credibility.

    • @bagramdave883
      @bagramdave883 18 днів тому

      It’s not illegal to be a friend of an accused murderer. Ask ALL the Clinton’s friends and donors.

  • @SandraBlanton-vn3mh
    @SandraBlanton-vn3mh Місяць тому +208

    Oh! I knew the judge was full of crap. In a small town people know. He is trying to save his butt. People are scared. They know things. Took a brave 16yr. to turn this around. Hope she finds a new life with happiness.

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Місяць тому +16

      The people arrested didn't live in the town or even in the same state the judge lives.

    • @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316
      @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316 Місяць тому +21

      Absolutely agreed, their is no way in a small town where everyone knows everything about you , and judge knows nothing!! Doesn’t pass the smell test!!!

    • @joanevans7034
      @joanevans7034 Місяць тому +13

      @@reformcongress But he did business with the suspects and was at the house when it was raided by the FBI?

    • @donniedickerson8077
      @donniedickerson8077 Місяць тому +7

      Everybody likely knows more about These people than is being talked in public , in small town USA everybody hears things, I live in a small town USA, Gossip is the public grapevine

    • @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316
      @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316 Місяць тому +4

      @@donniedickerson8077 Agreed

  • @djjohnson9422
    @djjohnson9422 Місяць тому +29

    Perhaps the Mayor who asked for the Judge's resignation should be investigated?

  • @larlar8580
    @larlar8580 Місяць тому +70

    Thank heavens for Brian…honest and good reporting - great journalist!!!

    • @RANGERS.FC.
      @RANGERS.FC. Місяць тому +2

      really you think hes honest loool

    • @larlar8580
      @larlar8580 Місяць тому +3

      @@RANGERS.FC. - yes, I think Brian is honest. I think he genuinely cares about the victims and their families…he even corrected another New Nation reporter who was trying to infer things that weren’t true.

  • @Rael_486
    @Rael_486 Місяць тому +80

    Is the judge aware of his right to remain silent. 🤔

  • @water2wine1
    @water2wine1 Місяць тому +65

    This reminds me of that case in Ohio where a bunch of family members were murdered in their beds. It was over a custody of a baby and peculiar religious beliefs.

    • @lindajoyner8231
      @lindajoyner8231 Місяць тому +4

      Are you talking about the Pike County murders? Horrific case! And, it was the grandmother that pushed for the murders in that case. I'm still waiting for the trial of the grandfather.

    • @cf2993
      @cf2993 Місяць тому +4

      @@lindajoyner8231 Billy Wagner's trial is continued until January 6th, 2025. I'm not holding my breath for the trial to start on the new date.

  • @ES-7766
    @ES-7766 Місяць тому +24

    I grew up in a small town. There’s was so much corruption there. The same people and families were in charge for literally decades until some locals decided to take the town back by exposing things they were doing.

  • @katewoolf6059
    @katewoolf6059 Місяць тому +51

    This small area is corrupt af

    • @christinemarie5623
      @christinemarie5623 Місяць тому +6

      I grew up in one small community and those 4 mug shots look like the shady people that skulked around our small town, happy I left 40 years ago

    • @woodsrdr
      @woodsrdr Місяць тому +1

      Most are. Small towns are usually ruled as an oligarchy. Occasionally they are completely benevolent. Far more often than not, corruption runs rampant.

  • @xyz5765
    @xyz5765 Місяць тому +38

    Maybe the mayor had something to hide?

    • @donlum9128
      @donlum9128 Місяць тому +5

      Maybe the Mayor didn't want an idiot for a judge.

  • @catalinacleoferohm6405
    @catalinacleoferohm6405 Місяць тому +16

    When people are afraid to talk, something fishy is going on.😱

  • @Snargfargle
    @Snargfargle Місяць тому +39

    People here need to realize that the position of municipal judge in Kansas is barely a legal position at all. All you have to do is take a two-day course once a year and pass a short test. Municipal judges deal only with minor things like town ordinance infractions and parking tickets.

    • @Tipperary757
      @Tipperary757 Місяць тому +3

      Yes, true, thank you for mentioning this. Not a high-level position.

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Місяць тому +2

      So he doesn’t have his Juris Doctorate??

    • @coolcougar
      @coolcougar Місяць тому +4

      This judge was in OK, not KS.

    • @ssg558
      @ssg558 Місяць тому +1

      @@coolcougarNo, he was in Kansas

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Місяць тому

      You don't need a law degree to be that type of 'judge'?

  • @dorettasdozen8537
    @dorettasdozen8537 Місяць тому +32

    Be careful while you are there.

  • @edilsarg5028
    @edilsarg5028 Місяць тому +92

    That reporter is the goat and deserves a raise plus paid vacation to the Bahamas or Hawaii. That interview in the car is going to change many lives.

    •  Місяць тому +6

      overstatement of the year, congrats

    • @sandyfields678
      @sandyfields678 Місяць тому

      Bahamas not good,,c4iminal element tak8ng over,,go els22here,,daytona bch,usa

  • @shondrawhite9317
    @shondrawhite9317 Місяць тому +127

    Poor judge ?. I wonder how those mothers felt, looking down barrels of weapons, tasers and hammers.... Shame on that judge. RIP 🕯️🕯️

    • @aoife984
      @aoife984 Місяць тому +17

      Yeah the poor judge! What are you part of the cult? This man has stepped up to tell his truth and has been forced out of his job for speaking up. Maybe you should re-listen, blame the Mayor instead of the judge and quit the cult you must belong to.

    • @glendaarbuckle5570
      @glendaarbuckle5570 Місяць тому +17

      Yes, poor judge. The MAYOR should be investigated. Shame on that mayor. There was nothing untoward with this interview, yet the mayor asked the judge to resign. You should listen to the interview again. Why was the mayor so quick and intent on asking the judge to resign so soon after the interview. Why are you defending the mayor and slamming the judge?

    • @brenda4085
      @brenda4085 Місяць тому +8

      The two have nothing to do with each other. Shame on him? For what?

    • @PeachysMom
      @PeachysMom Місяць тому +7

      I got the vibe he is lying about how much he kniws

    • @whobeyou5342
      @whobeyou5342 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly. Sounds like an old man trying to play victim- i wouldn't doubt that he knows more than he's letting on about this guy.

  • @faithhupy4983
    @faithhupy4983 Місяць тому +37

    I don't think he was let go just for talking I think he was let go because you're a judge you're in the middle of this situation you didn't know that they were in a cult but yet you hang around with them every day I don't think it was him being interviewed I think it was what was said during the interview that got him to be asked to resign the first time I saw the interview I thought right away what kind of a judge is this

  • @heathermatuzak4417
    @heathermatuzak4417 Місяць тому +10

    What a kind and sensible man this judge seems to be. The locals might want to take a closer look at their mayor!

  • @redgingerbreadpam
    @redgingerbreadpam Місяць тому +127

    Just goes to show...you thought Tad was your good friend. You never even really knew him evidently.
    And what kind of "business" were y'all involved in?

    • @redgingerbreadpam
      @redgingerbreadpam Місяць тому +9

      @@abjamez thanks for that information

    • @lr8607
      @lr8607 Місяць тому +12

      Sounds like the judge knew good old Tad was in the cult business, together with his girlfriend Tiffany.

    • @AmyBethB
      @AmyBethB Місяць тому +2

      ​@@abjamez what is the name of the business?

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Місяць тому +4

      @@abjamez Where would a guy like Tad get the money for that?

    • @Torchlakegirl
      @Torchlakegirl Місяць тому +3

      @@MsJellyBellyLove seriously! Doesn’t look like the guy can even afford a comb.

  • @byergo
    @byergo Місяць тому +288

    The FBI needs to take this Judge in for interrogation.

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому +39

      I think he's shady as H. And it wouldn' t surprise me if he was the judge that granted the kids Dad and gramma the custody rights when she lied about their being a molester in the Mother's family. I think a lot more is going to come out about all those in that area. It was the Twombly's daughter that snitched on her parents.

    • @Chulitatr
      @Chulitatr Місяць тому +12

      For what, he resigned as disciplined.

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Місяць тому +23

      @@PK-bh1ww He wasn't that judge. He is a municipal judge in Elkhart, KS.

    • @atiqrahman7289
      @atiqrahman7289 Місяць тому +11

      Blaming JUDGE is a bit too much --- how often really such murders ocurr. Also, not definite at this time that the court really decided about a particular site where children should be brought in????

    • @teamcougars
      @teamcougars Місяць тому +20

      On what grounds should the judge be taken in for interrogation?🤦‍♀️

  • @sheilathailand1903
    @sheilathailand1903 Місяць тому +28

    It's like Prairie Deliverance.

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Місяць тому +1

      You’re not wrong!

    • @edenrose9395
      @edenrose9395 Місяць тому

      😂

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому

      There's a lot more of those little clusters of antis all over America. But I think more in the South they get away with owning towns. They're small towns in vast wide open areas, "No man's land " they call areas like that. I don't see much of that "cult owning" in my area up North.

  • @heavenleeangeltalk8471
    @heavenleeangeltalk8471 Місяць тому +44

    Brian Entin is our national treasure 🌟

  • @jamesclark9347
    @jamesclark9347 Місяць тому +41

    The mayor is the cult leader IMO!

    • @RawOlympia
      @RawOlympia Місяць тому +3

      God's misfits ... meow

  • @maureenfrancis8902
    @maureenfrancis8902 Місяць тому +47

    Oh he sounds full of it. He never heard of it??

    • @guymerritt4860
      @guymerritt4860 Місяць тому +2

      I've seen that comment from a lot of people. Hell, maybe he hadn't ever heard of it - who knows?

    • @gypsyscometotown
      @gypsyscometotown Місяць тому +11

      @@guymerritt4860
      The whole community knew about their “religion” & were scared of them, but the Judge is clueless🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @guymerritt4860
      @guymerritt4860 Місяць тому +5

      @@gypsyscometotown Well maybe you know a lot more about it than me - seriously. This guy just struck me as an honest - if naive - guy. And maybe he knew all about it and he's just a convincing liar. Didn't seem like he had a clue, to me.

    • @patrickoryan6361
      @patrickoryan6361 Місяць тому +2

      ​@gypsyscometotown the judge isn't from the community he lives in kansas and judge in kansas the suspects all live in oklahoma

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      200 IQ play, imo

  • @vanessalewis1023
    @vanessalewis1023 Місяць тому +37

    Should probably choose your friends better old chap.

    • @tealblue4987
      @tealblue4987 Місяць тому

      There's hardly anyone there though. It's small. Sorry, I'm getting too involved but wow. wth. the terror in that town.

    • @vanessalewis1023
      @vanessalewis1023 Місяць тому

      @@tealblue4987 i definitely think he needs to quit flopping his beak in interviews.

  • @ecbrent2
    @ecbrent2 Місяць тому +10

    I guess that means the former judge is free to say whatever the hell he wants to now.

  • @machelleowens5767
    @machelleowens5767 Місяць тому +79

    Small town so everybody knows everyone's business. Judge is full of it and probably shady.

    • @kathyauwarter5057
      @kathyauwarter5057 Місяць тому +12

      He is my cousin. He is NOT shady. Just made a dumb decision to go in tv. Elkhart is a very small community and any negative publicity will get you shunned

    • @machelleowens5767
      @machelleowens5767 Місяць тому +14

      @@kathyauwarter5057 He may not be shady but his friend sure was.. As the saying goes, guilt by association.

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree Місяць тому +6

      @@machelleowens5767 Sad that it is that way, but it is. Nobody knows everything about everyone. That group could've told his friend/judge that he was so sad about those women missing, etc. Judge seemed legit to me

    • @machelleowens5767
      @machelleowens5767 Місяць тому

      @@mmhthree I've lived in small towns my whole life and everyone knows everybody's business, including, their dirty laundry. These people are feared by their community and Tad has weapons charges and is anti government. The association is completely off and very strange for being a judge in a small community.

    • @JustAKiwi2020
      @JustAKiwi2020 Місяць тому +2

      @@machelleowens5767do you subscribe to the idea of guilt by association? So you don’t ever talk to or befriend anyone that does anything wrong I assume? No friends that do drugs? None that do dumb stuff sometimes? 🤨. You seem so eager to cut this guy down and you obviously want to make him part of the story as if he did something wrong 🤦‍♀️

  • @Chrissy0316
    @Chrissy0316 Місяць тому +125

    He was coincidentally there…. I call BS!!! A Judge doing business on a Saturday…

    • @jessicalubien5424
      @jessicalubien5424 Місяць тому +12

      Exactly!

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Місяць тому +6

      Smart

    • @grahamcomer4302
      @grahamcomer4302 Місяць тому +15

      It was a separate business

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому

      And as they say "birds of a feather..." Seriously why would a judge hang out with an anti government cult leader unless they were like minded?

    • @lorenheard2561
      @lorenheard2561 Місяць тому +13

      You don't believe in separate enterprises besides your career!? It CAN happen to anyone... Getting involved with dangerous people who end up not being the friendly people you thought they were!!🤨🧐

  • @Peter-kk6rg
    @Peter-kk6rg Місяць тому +48

    What type of business is the Judge envoled in.

    • @Joe_Brown99
      @Joe_Brown99 Місяць тому +6

      Drugs

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Місяць тому +7

      I’m definately curious as well.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Місяць тому +3

      @@ItzMzJulez2U A Judge working in the weekend.

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Місяць тому +21

      Somethin definitely sus. If he was in Vietnam, why ain’t he sleepin late and enjoying military/retirement benefits?
      And seriously, Tad as a ‘business partner?’
      Small town Oklahoma, municipal judge, and he’s clueless about the cult that his business partner is part of…AND happened to be at his house when he was arrested? Dude, I got questions!😳😬

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому +3

      Either "funny or monkey business"....

  • @VeeAmericanEagle
    @VeeAmericanEagle Місяць тому +27

    Brian Entin is the GOAT!

  • @ItsAllOptics
    @ItsAllOptics Місяць тому +14

    For all those feeling so sorry for the judge, take some time and look up the multiple criminal/illegal situations he's be in through the past, don't assume he's a pretty spring flower with a heavenly scent. He himself is corrupt.

  • @MeOhMyOh2324
    @MeOhMyOh2324 Місяць тому +16

    Time to interview that mayor!

  • @panthira2240
    @panthira2240 Місяць тому +46

    I'm having a similar situation with judges and ex inlaws here. There's a level of corruption in the county I'm in (Yolo County, CA), and the judges and other county workers are dirty AF. They've done horrific things to me and my kids. My life has been threatened, but no one will listen or do anything about it.
    Judges and cops should not have qualified immunity.

  • @maryannegunter115
    @maryannegunter115 Місяць тому +18

    That 'judge' is so full of manure, he's disgusting. I'm pretty sure he's as crooked as the others. It's sad to see people like this that can make decisions for other people. I'm glad to hear he was forced to resign, he doesn't deserve a position of judge. You all know that he'd heard of the misfits, probably one himself.

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      YES, *_Guilt by Association_* right, Comrade Mary !!! ...All this *_Presumption of Innocent_* is BS to protect these Criminals !!!

  • @robertakaiser9631
    @robertakaiser9631 Місяць тому +18

    Small town corruption

  • @desiraecapelo7442
    @desiraecapelo7442 Місяць тому +53

    Lock the judge and the mayor up this is corrupt at its finest

  • @Bluemoonofky
    @Bluemoonofky Місяць тому +16

    Oh, my GOD! This is nightmare fuel! All of it!

    • @TJ-id6ee
      @TJ-id6ee Місяць тому

      Watching some of the footage out in the country there brings back memories of the old movies"Texas chainsaw massacre" and Deliverance. Scary!

  • @user-mj1lh1iy4x
    @user-mj1lh1iy4x Місяць тому +12

    How does an interview lead to a judge being forced to resign? Something is just not right here. There is lots more here than meets the eye.

    • @tomv5988
      @tomv5988 Місяць тому +2

      Idk but I think the judge was honest about the suspects.
      He really didn't know about the cult, but he mention how one was out in left field.

  • @joshbutler8147
    @joshbutler8147 Місяць тому +5

    That reporter needs protection.

  • @mountaineermama8052
    @mountaineermama8052 Місяць тому +5

    There is NO ONE better to cover this case than Brian Entin!!!

  • @gayemarianesfox2405
    @gayemarianesfox2405 Місяць тому +71

    It’s horrible these two women were killed but between that and the girl CW it’s exposing this horrible situation. You can’t tell me the judge didn’t know about this.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Місяць тому +3

      Guilty

    • @angelafrench2328
      @angelafrench2328 Місяць тому +4

      Then again Judge said he’s spent a mth the last mth w dude, also!!? 😮

    • @pppopai
      @pppopai Місяць тому +7

      Judge trying to cover his but cause he was there during the raid but why do a damn interview looking real suspicious

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Місяць тому

      So no DEI? No CRT? No BLM? No Chicago? Affirmative Action?

    • @pattijack
      @pattijack Місяць тому +3

      @@pppopai…can you imagine if that were you and you are innocent and it was because it was people you know? It does happen! Even when the Menendez brothers murdered their parents, no one thought they would do that BUT THEY DID!!

  • @naturistfred
    @naturistfred Місяць тому +15

    Brian get inside before you catch a cold. We adore you.

  • @BelleWhittington
    @BelleWhittington Місяць тому +13

    Brian is great! I always enjoy his reporting.

  • @onesolvedmystery2274
    @onesolvedmystery2274 Місяць тому +34

    SO This Judge Has Been "Doing Business" With This Suspect for Around A Month, Was At His House When It Was Raided, & Knew He Was "Very Anti-Government", But Thought It Was A Good Idea To Do An Interview WIth News Nation Giving Him A Character Reference. Probably Not The Smartest Thing To Do, Especially For A Judge !!!!

    • @georgeworthmore
      @georgeworthmore Місяць тому +5

      no kiddin

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Місяць тому +1

      Can't fix stupid 😅😅😅

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      Hearsay is not admissible in Court: As he clearly said that he did NOT have prior knowledge of the Cult or their beliefs, but later learned about it from others.

  • @danielleragin1306
    @danielleragin1306 Місяць тому +5

    The judge said they’ve been working together the past month… hmmmm 🙄🙄he doesn’t know he was in the cult either… I call BS!!

  • @marthawoodworth
    @marthawoodworth Місяць тому +142

    I disagree, Ashleigh. As a judge, he should have known better than to talk about ANYTHING he knows about these people to a reporter.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Місяць тому +10

      The Judge knows alot more,and you would not lose your job.

    • @lr8607
      @lr8607 Місяць тому +21

      Come on. This "judge" lost his appointment to the bench because he was engaged in an outside business with a guy who is in a cult that murdered two people.

    • @verily360
      @verily360 Місяць тому +4

      Trying to say I'm innocent because I'm admitting this

    • @user-hh7bc1uq9w
      @user-hh7bc1uq9w Місяць тому +1

      ❤​@@Peter-kk6rg

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Місяць тому +2

      He just worried about his skin

  • @bobbib3836
    @bobbib3836 Місяць тому +27

    The governor needs to step up & straighten out that town of “misfits” including the judge & mayor. What a disgrace!

    • @raygunsforronnie847
      @raygunsforronnie847 Місяць тому +1

      In Oklahoma, religion is treated... religiously, but mostly only if it is some flavor of 'christianity.' In the minds of most Oklahomans, killing in the name of one's christian religion is okay.

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Місяць тому +2

      @@raygunsforronnie847 Not true “in most Oklahomans”.!

    • @TMann-eg1gi
      @TMann-eg1gi Місяць тому +1

      Well, the Municipal Judge is in Kansas. The murders (and the legal proceedings concerning the murders) are in Oklahoma. So, do you want the Oklahoma Governor telling Kansas mayors and judges how to run their business? I’m sure they’d tell him to take a hike.

  • @dyoung2739
    @dyoung2739 Місяць тому +3

    Speaking as someone was born and raised in a small town, small towns are something else. The judge probably helped them w/their plot to unalive💔those young ladies. Deepest condolences🙏🏽🕊️to the loved ones of Veronica Butler & Jilian Kelley.

  • @Kansascountry283
    @Kansascountry283 Місяць тому +12

    I have lived in and around Elkhart for almost 50 years and i had never heard of Gods misfits until all this happened.

  • @larrylezon1590
    @larrylezon1590 Місяць тому +16

    Great investigative reporting! Glad to see there's finally a respectable journalist out there, not someone who just parrots what the corporation wants people to hear.
    I would next look into the mayor's connection to the cult, as this judge didn't disclose anything inappropriate. He also wasn't implicated in any of the wrongdoings. There doesn't seem to be a good reason to ask for his resignation.

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Місяць тому

      He will be connected..you can run ,but you can't hide

  • @Mpeterson1234
    @Mpeterson1234 Місяць тому +5

    This guy is a judge? That is frightening, he didn’t even speak English well.

  • @Persepolis8564
    @Persepolis8564 Місяць тому +33

    How do you do formal business with a very anti government person?

    • @melissab1725
      @melissab1725 Місяць тому +19

      esp being a judge and working for the government

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Місяць тому +4

      @@melissab1725BINGO!

    • @bjbrtn5644
      @bjbrtn5644 Місяць тому +1

      Didn't get the impression it was a "formal" business, sounded more like side jobs to make money and stay busy.

    • @bjbrtn5644
      @bjbrtn5644 Місяць тому +1

      Have since learned it was a formal business, in fact, a helicopter business.

  • @billaveda6408
    @billaveda6408 Місяць тому +5

    Kudos to Brian for being on the ground and seeking the truth of this story.

  • @donlum9128
    @donlum9128 Місяць тому +15

    IRS needs to audit the Misfits including Hunter.

  • @melaniegatton
    @melaniegatton Місяць тому +4

    Seems super obvious to me that, as a judge, you shouldn't be talking about your connection to an ongoing case and how nice one of the defendants is

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      But you don't know _WHY_ do you ??? ...If you did know why, then you'd know that your assertion is completely ridiculous as that only applies the litigants involved because people frequently mis-state things on accident, which could later be perceived as untrustworthy by the Court & by jurors. That's why Council advise their Clients NOT to talk before Court: Because of accidental mis-statements. But that doesn't even matter if you're not a Plaintiff or a Defendant. He's just a witness. He knows he's not involved in murder, so he doesn't give AF who believes him, because he's NOT being charged with any crime.

  • @biancarose5180
    @biancarose5180 Місяць тому +3

    Brian is top notch!

  • @lisakayruetz7354
    @lisakayruetz7354 Місяць тому +9

    If Beasley was so upset, why did he agree to lie to LE about what Tad was doing??

  • @youareawesomethankyouforge8803
    @youareawesomethankyouforge8803 Місяць тому +21

    Yes, agreed. The Mayor just outed himself. Scary stuff man! No wonder everyone's afraid to talk. Children of the Corn!

    • @HighOctane-wo6cm
      @HighOctane-wo6cm Місяць тому +3

      Oh yes most definitely Children of the Corn ! Can you imagine waking up and living in this town every day with this cast of characters ?

    • @wendielangborders4116
      @wendielangborders4116 Місяць тому +1

      Got a police department that allows family members to burglar but no one gets into trouble over Miss guns but promoting to protect the kids ? An cover up

  • @kenn1936
    @kenn1936 Місяць тому +6

    I was hoping it was the judge that gave the father custody!!!!!!!!!! It's about time the courts are held responsible for their mistakes, where it leads to people being murdered. Such as giving custody to crazy people!!

  • @seashell-life
    @seashell-life Місяць тому +10

    Was the judge trying to give them a heads up because he knew what was coming? He MUST have heard SOMETHING since he was seeing them every day. He had inside information about the big guys snooping around asking questions...

    • @tereseday4060
      @tereseday4060 Місяць тому +1

      They have a helicopter business.

    • @seashell-life
      @seashell-life Місяць тому

      I’m starting to think the judge was working undercover to infiltrate them and was sent to get them all at the compound for the raid so they wouldn’t scatter.Maybe he set them up to take them down?

  • @smorgasbroad1132
    @smorgasbroad1132 Місяць тому +5

    Why must reporters always have to stand outside in all manner of weather, traffic, noise conditions? It's been stupid for years. IMO.

    • @SeashelleBytheseashore
      @SeashelleBytheseashore Місяць тому

      Same!! I will never understand it with the technology we have today. They still report like it's 1956.

  • @lr8607
    @lr8607 Місяць тому +5

    Poor Mr. Forbes; he got a little scared when the swat team surprised him and friend Tad. His friend Tad is a great guy who happens to be in a cult.
    And golly gee, he's also known Tiffany for years and she's a bit out in left field but she's in a cult too!
    And this "judge" happens to be moonlighting doing business with his friend Tad while Tad is allegedly involved in planning the murder of two people.
    What a shame poor judge Forbes lost his cushy municipal appointment for associating with these types of people -- said no reasonable person ever.

  • @terihaynes-yf9jb
    @terihaynes-yf9jb Місяць тому +22

    Wow. This interview was absolutely crazy. The judge lost his mind. Good ole boy town. Above the law. Mayor doesn't want the attention.

  • @christinejackson8542
    @christinejackson8542 Місяць тому +3

    I call BS on the judge !!! Also the Mayor knows.

  • @jessicalubien5424
    @jessicalubien5424 Місяць тому +33

    This screams bs! Or is it just me?

  • @johnnypipe
    @johnnypipe Місяць тому +4

    I know one thing for sure, they better try this case in a court house in Oklahoma City.

  • @pjdava
    @pjdava Місяць тому +10

    NewsNation, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!

  • @gi_nattak
    @gi_nattak Місяць тому +8

    That "Judge" reminds me of the Sheriff in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre...

  • @wlf9108
    @wlf9108 Місяць тому +4

    I didn’t think he was inappropriate. That’s weird

  • @lesisbest11
    @lesisbest11 Місяць тому +3

    In the original interview with the judge he said about Tad, "he was my friend, then corrected and said he IS my friend". How you could claim such a thing knowing he committed such a heinous, senseless crime tells pretty much that the judge very well could be tainted himself. That and he was in "business with him for a long time". Pretty telling.

    • @danielleragin1306
      @danielleragin1306 Місяць тому +2

      Hence the cops keeping everything under wraps this whole investigation.

  • @fredgervinm.p.3315
    @fredgervinm.p.3315 Місяць тому +3

    When the judge said "He IS a good friend of mine, not WAS a good friend of mine but IS a good friend mine."
    I was instantly reminded of a damage control line from the Harrison Ford movie,
    Clear and Present Danger. lol...

  • @Lexielouwho
    @Lexielouwho Місяць тому +8

    Keep digging Brian cause this could be a huge story. See whom you can uncover in power who was a member of this group. I just dont believe this guy never heard of this cult especially if he was such good friends with a member. Pretty suspicious him being fired.

  • @darlenemitchell5402
    @darlenemitchell5402 Місяць тому +3

    Wow !!! Please go after the major Now . Please …. Thank you for busting this open …. I live in Edmond ok . Please keep going in this . These people are scary and need to be stopped .

  • @cynthiaramos5787
    @cynthiaramos5787 Місяць тому +6

    Great reporting

  • @BassPro2
    @BassPro2 Місяць тому +3

    Brian never breaks eye contact while interviewing. For me that’s hard to do but this man is great at what he does

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      Dude, he prepared his report _IN ADVANCE_ and he still broke eye contact four times: 1st, when he mentioned the weather, and a 2nd time, when he recalled the memory of the Homeowner's reaction. 3rd, when asked about "the twist" with this story. And 4th, when he had to reference his notes for the NAME of the Cult. And that's completely natural: Just Google, "Lying Eyes": it explains how our eyes involuntary move when we're accessing different parts of our Brain: And it's used to determine if someone is accessing actual memories, OR, if they need to filter their words 1st, OR, if they're just creating a story out of thin air.
      None of this applies when he's asking the Judge questions: And it's not about "eye contact": It's about taking in everything: Body Language, Facial Expressions, Tone of Voice, as well as involuntary Eye Movements: All of these indicators can help you determine if the subject is being truthful or deceptive.

  • @kristinebalena3969
    @kristinebalena3969 Місяць тому +6

    That bunch looks scary weird

  • @Pa-we1lw
    @Pa-we1lw Місяць тому +3

    Something is definitely rotten here.

  • @Bamg12345
    @Bamg12345 Місяць тому +25

    Granny tried once in Feb as well. She staked out her house but Veronica never left that day. They found google searches where Granny was googling how to get someone out of their home.. She was planning to throw an Anvil through her windshield and make it look like an accident with the thought process of anvils fall off work trucks all the time.. Granny on March 23 was buying 5 tazers at the Big R with a google search saying Tazer pain levels also bought pre paid cell phones at Walmart. I want to say that Judge was SEEN with Tad and Tiffany and the small children just last Friday helping them cut wood at someones shop..

  • @sherrypingby6612
    @sherrypingby6612 Місяць тому +9

    They actually thought they was above the law and goverment !

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Місяць тому +1

      with the judge and mayor for buddies.... in that area they likely were...

    • @tereseday4060
      @tereseday4060 Місяць тому

      ​@@PK-bh1wwDifferent county.

  • @bookbag6432
    @bookbag6432 Місяць тому +19

    You forgot to mention the part of the interview where he said he was very close friends with the man that was arrested, even currently. Clearly that is not a good look or thing to say publicly at this time.

    • @anonz975
      @anonz975 Місяць тому +2

      I agree. Everyone there is too scared to talk and having a judge do an interview saying the main suspect is a good friend and the "nicest guy" will only scare people more (if that is even possible). Could lead to jury nullification or witnesses being too scared to testify.

    • @tealblue4987
      @tealblue4987 Місяць тому

      @@anonz975 im scared and im not even there

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 27 днів тому

      @@anonz975 ...Sounds like they're scared to talk because of the _CONSEQUENCES_ of doing so... Like, how the Judge basically got removed for doing an interview. Sounds like they're scared of the _MAYOR_ having _HIS_ *_Police Force_* "checkout" someone for merely talking !!!

  • @larryrisley9845
    @larryrisley9845 Місяць тому +14

    That judge new they were anti government but didn't know anything

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Місяць тому

      It isn't against the law to be anti-government just like it isn't against the law for someone to believe things like "white people are racist".

  • @jerzeydolphins
    @jerzeydolphins Місяць тому +2

    THAT JUDGE AND SO MANY MORE ARE DIRTY OUT THERE ,

  • @shannonfrink7939
    @shannonfrink7939 Місяць тому +1

    You guys are doing amazing work on this story, and it is so refreshing to see traditional journalism in action! Keep up the good work.

  • @rosalindalay4499
    @rosalindalay4499 Місяць тому +3

    Ashleigh n Brian are excellent journalists ❤❤

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars Місяць тому +4

    Making the judge resign is ridiculous he didn’t disclose anything that was important to the case😡 I feel bad for him 😢

    • @xyz5765
      @xyz5765 Місяць тому +5

      I do too although he's awful naive. The mayor should be looked into

  • @Swksgirl
    @Swksgirl Місяць тому +2

    Judge should not have been forced to resign. I believe he is just as surprised by the events that have unfolded as the other locals that knew the ones arrested. There must be more to the story.

  • @jackiesherrill9135
    @jackiesherrill9135 Місяць тому +2

    That poor Judge, that is just so wrong of the mayor.

  • @darlenedowie2926
    @darlenedowie2926 Місяць тому +3

    This is so sad and heartbreaking what happened to these two woman. This local court and justice are so shady. This local court system need to be investigated, especially this custody case.

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Місяць тому

      Well I THINK IF GOOD PEOPLE DONT LET THIS JUST GO ANY WAY ,BUT KEEP IT IN THE NEWS TILL JUSTICE IS 100 PRECENT. CLEADED UP FOR THESE CHILDREN WITHOUT A MOTHER,THEN WE FAIL THEM.I DON'T KNOW THEM NEVER BEEN TO KANSAS OR OKLAHOMA, BUT THIS NEEDS CLEANED IS IT DON'T JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER SMALL TOWN AND TAKE OVER.

  • @jamesbillington9280
    @jamesbillington9280 Місяць тому +56

    This judge stinks to high heaven.

  • @surgicaltechcrafter2169
    @surgicaltechcrafter2169 Місяць тому +2

    Great journalism here

  • @edkarlander5388
    @edkarlander5388 Місяць тому +2

    The judge sounded like a great man. He is in shock over the situation. What a crazy outcome for the judge. Who is Paul?