The US mandated 'international rules based order' dictates that others have to obey the rules, but not the US, unless the opposite will benefit the US. Translation, that means the US makes the rules to suit them and can ignore the rules if it suits them as well.
China and BYD and in the wrong here. It is an absurd that they "imported" workers into Brazil and not gave those jobs to the local community. It is similar to exploitation practiced by the colonialist West. Do not give the West ammunition to hit you, as they will would do whatever they can to create a negative image of China in Brazil and raise issues for China's investments there.
as a Chinese its sad to see Indonesians fall into Chinese propaganda, but to be fair Indonesian working conditions purely from serterotypes are much worse than average 3000 yuan Chinese
@@capt9 Paranoid? This is exactly like the Xinjiang "force labor" propaganda. Also, the "Chinese garlic force labor" nonsense. Don't tell me you actually believe all this. Ignorant fool!
@@mudshovel289 The Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies about slave like conditions of these workers. Listen to them if you truly care about them.
Er ......... I think you meant " slave labor " . There are over 2 million of them. They work for something like 30 cents per hour. Any wonder why their incarceration rates are so high ? Prison system run by private enterprise ? The higher the incarceration rates, the more money they make.
I call it BS. Whataboutism is not the argument here. I'm a Brazilian living in China, praise many aspects in this country, and yet, as much I despise the stupid allegations and biased accounts on (better, against) China, I have to be against BYD on this one. It's not a political or ideological issue here. It's a matter of caring about the minimum rights and dignity of those workers. What's more, even the Chinese on social media are supporting them. All these statements, official letters signed by them collectively, and the company's lawyers defending BYD are wrong and immoral. It's all scripted and their leaders forced to say something very different from the truth. There's no lie about this: there were no "foreign" intervention on these investigations. This was fully conducted BY Brazil's authorities in charge of labor rights IN Brazil.
@Bubba-z4s yes but apple and every other product that you have in your house is made in China, so nice try buddy and huge Muslim scholars went to China and debunked the western lies, to much cnn you watch
Brazilian authorities decided that this violated their laws, ok? Brazil gets to decide what is acceptable in its territory, not some chanfei who DOESN’T EVEN WORK! Like what even are you bro? Look in the mirror and answer yourself.
@@tkh2944also be mindful of unsuccessful Malaysians and Singaporeans trying to live vicariously through China because they have no other way to feel proud. They’ve done nothing in their own life to be proud about.
The best approach to this conflict is to engage the relevant authorities in Brazil and iron out the problems they find goes against their laws. BYD must just do what they want and get the job moving. Throwing stones in either direction won't change anything. I hope for a good result and prosperity for both nations.
True. But at the same time, authorities need and must be seen to be fair too. Ideally, BYD should be employing these people with the same terms and conditions as those workers employed in other car factories in Brazil. Then, such incidences will not arise.
BYD brings economic value to Brazilians coupled with class and quality. Why would Brazilians want them to leave ? Only pro-monopolists hegemon would want that.
There is a problem not only with translation, but with meaning regarding the term slavery. In Brazil, which had slavery by law for more than 300 years, this concept extends to any form of work that could be considered inhumane or dehumanizing.
@@tkh2944chanfei, you don’t even need to work. You are supported by your family. You sleep in their house, their bed that they gave you. Don’t talk about standards like you’re so tough and used to a hard life.
Just remember Brazil during the covid period. It is the only country that gave a low efficacy rate for Sinovac when all other countries like UAE, Indonesia etc report high efficacy for it. Brazil isn't a particularly friendly country, it is still very much entrenched in western mindset. Lula himself can't change things.
@mudshovel289 Who said Sinovac sucks? Only Brazilians did, just admit that Brazil cannot be trusted. On top of a coordinated social media blitz by the US to badmouth it. Astra Zeneca is the one found & proven to be inferior and dangerous, causing blood clot which the company admitted to and stopped the production.
@joaomacedo6873 you think their country of origin don't ? You can even ask those workers whether they happily support their government & be shocked by their answers !
It's not about what anyone thinks, it's about the law, if they follow the law there will be no problems... But going to a different country and breaking the country's laws and later blaming the coutry for their own wrongdoings is shameful.
@@Kiyoonebro you didn’t even use drugs and your life is STILL like this. What was your excuse? Go look in the bathroom mirror at your greying or thinning hair. Everything in your past has led up to…what exactly? What have you actually done to end up in this role here? When you were a child, did you imagine yourself to be this way at your age?
That's how you achieve selling cheap products with slave-like labor practices. It may be the norm in China but not in Brazil. BYD and Brazil have had a good start if the former wish this to continue, treat your employees with dignity.
Worker's rights violations are not tolerated in Brazil, if the company gets caught forcing its employees to work in such poor conditions and human dignity violations it will be up for the strongest fines and penalties of our constitutional laws. It is a very unfortunate situation because Brazilians tend to have a positive view on our partnership with China in many areas... It is not like providing basic conditions like a proper kitchen and laundry, and adequate bathrooms would cost so much more to the company, because there are a ton of Chinese businesses thriving in Brazil and they all comply with our labor laws...
@@albertleung5823One bathroom for 30 workers, passports being taken away, underpayment. Many other violations in the report the federal police disclosed.
@@albertleung5823 have you even read the report? Or are you here simply because your higher-up told you to, Mr Leung? 住宿生活条件 没收护照 扣押工资 严重超时工作 连巴西这种第三世界南美大区的人都看不下去，不反思下吗byd？
@@VNuxion The workers already said it is not true, who is the one to believe??? The workers just want to get the work done and move on or go home! They don't have to lie! You are barking at the wrong tree, no law is broken! It is Brazil officials fabricated the allegation to deny the fundamental right of the workers! The Brazil officials abused their power! They politicized the issue with CIA to smear China! They are corrupted by the CIA dark money! Clean up your government first by investigating if the officials receive the dark money!
I''m brazilian! If you want to sell your vehicles here, you need work like others car factories do. Dont tell lies. There is all investigation and vídeos here in YT posted in portuguese.
So many people talking about the US. This takes place in Brazil, so it is not even a video about US LOL. Also, Brazil is in BRICS, so economically allied more with China.
they are Chinese bot, The owner of BYD's response to this is not to address any accusation made by Brazilian authority (with literal video evidence), but says "It is the foreign enemies at work smearing us"
So why didn’t you work hard? Disability aside, you could have gotten a computer job to help your family with their bills, right? I guess that part of Chinese culture didn’t last long in your Southeast Asian home?
It's not simply a cultural misunderstanding. It's also a matter of rule of law (Brazil) versus rule by law (China). In Brazil, labor rights and dignity are help up there and are seen as a priority, especially under the current government. In China, the law has already codified minimum conditions and aspects that are to be given to workers in order for the sake of their dignitity as a human being. The difference is, in the latter, there's no one keeping it in check and, especially when it comes to big companies, whose internal leaders are Party members, they may very well overlook these laws and get away with it simply because of their status. In Brazil, this is usually no longer seems to be something that recurrent, as lawyers and authorities are well aware of how easily this can happen and how effectively the worker is safeguarded by the constitution and corresponding laws.
Just put also the image where they allegedly sleep after work and also the 1 bathroom per 30 workers. Horrible conditions. Show this also instead of showing only the BYD defense side...
I don't know the situation at the BTD plant with the Chinese workers, and I do know how underhanded and deceptive the US CIA and NGO's are, what I do know though, is that the document read by the workers sounded suspiciously like the company wrote it. What is the truth?
Y por supuesto, no habrá rectificaciones por parte de los medios. Eso es "poner su granito de arena" en los esfuerzos bélicos por parte de los "periodistas".
The Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies from Brazilian authorities. Listen to the Chinese workers themselves if you truly care about them.
@@mudshovel289 You keep talking about Brazilian laws. The comment clearly said that the Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies from Brazilian authorities. If you were fair, surely you need to listen to both parties before making a judgement, don't you think so?
Why "import" Chinese workers and not give local Brazilian workers a job? Do you think that Chinese companies can go to Brazil and not follow its labour laws? I am pro-China and cherish their investments in Brazil, but this situation showed a not very positive side of China, that do not work to develop local communities and would not share with them a slice (even small) of their profits. There are qualified workers in Brazil, so I think it is an insult to bring immigrants from China to do this work.
If you read the Chinese side on Chinese social media, the decision to not employ local workers was solely due to the signed contracts with Brazil requiring the plant to be operational in 2025, which will be impossible with local workers. They looked into the history of large projects completed by local Brazilian workers, and determined using local workers, construction will not be able to completed until 2028 at the earliest (2030 at the latest). Based on past experience, only skilled Chinese workers, with many years of specialised experience in large scale construction can ensure the factory goes live in 2025. I do agree, that they should respect local laws and improve the living conditions of their workers and actively look into ways to better incorporate local businesses and talents.
Whereas I somewhat agree to the point you're trying to make, what you're saying is not completely true. Just because something is seen as normal doesn't mean it isn't immoral or wrong. What's more, Brazilian authorities have clearly stated that their working hours and other conditions established in the contract infringe ALSO Chinese law. There's a matter of rule of law (Brazil) versus rule by law (China). In Brazil, labor rights and dignity are help up there and are seen as a priority, especially under the current government. In China, the law has already codified minimum conditions and aspects that are to be given to workers in order for the sake of their dignitity as a human being. The difference is, in the latter, there's no one keeping it in check and, especially when it comes to big companies, whose internal leaders are Party members, they may very well overlook these laws and get away with it simply because of their status. In Brazil, this is usually no longer seems to be something that recurrent, as lawyers and authorities are well aware of how easily this can happen and how effectively the worker is safeguarded by the constitution and corresponding laws.
@dissonance798 You just said what I want audiences to know. Law in China is by definition in Chinese 「統治階級管理國家的工具」which mean ruled by law. Law is a tool for CCP to tame the Chinese people.
Why is he reading and speaking chinese if he's supposed to be a Brazilian BYD labour worker, working in Brazil? Are all the labour force in BYD division of Brazil, chinese? Where are the Brazilians themselves? 😮
those people are building the BYD factory in there... the deal was that they build the plant and train the workers and go home. Nothing strange there, since the locals are not capable to build the plant by themselves and it is cheaper to pay chinese own workers to work there than hiring the locals.
@@Kiyoone It is an INSULT to bring imported labour to do work that Brazilians could do. Please educate yourself and research and study about Brazil. There are plenty of qualified workers there who need a job as economy was destroyed by previous federal government. BYD is in the wrong here and deserve this negative press. I hope this episode changes China's approach to Brazil and that they invest in the locals instead of just taking their jobs.
@@mmuk5903 Can Brazilians do the work, though? More importantly, can they do the work efficiently, within budget, and within deadline? Do you suppose those Brazilian will need to learn Mandarin in order to follow the instructions of Chinese engineers who already have these experience building these factories? Otherwise, why did they need BYD at all? Why Brazil never attempted to do this for themselves before? Also, you said "BYD in in the wrong here", as if there were no contracts involved that the Brazilian gov't had to have supported. Why no blame on the Brazilian gov't at all?
What’s wrong with reading and speaking Chinese? These are well trained and experienced Chinese workers that BYD needs to quickly ramp up the factory 🏭 construction building.
It's very stupid for Brazil politicians to do this. Brazil is going end up losing at the end. When BYD starts making cars, Brazilians will benefit from that.
You know, Brazil is (yet) a democratic republic with independent institutions. This was not politics, it was that labor ministry, and nobody, not even the president, can interfere when they find violations. The Chinese company can file a judicial case and defend themselves with facts, not politics. As it should be.
It doesn’t matter what the employees or employers have to say. Brazil has strict labor laws, and any company operating here has to abide. If the workers are happy with the conditions applied to them, they can work elsewhere.
Bem-vindo à esfera da mídia chinesa internacional. Enquanto que admiro e aprecio muita coisa na China, isso é algo que me deixa um tanto frustrato. O pessoal se apega à narrativa política pra defender a imagem do país, enquanto que na verdade isso tem de a ver com a administração de uma companhia chinesa. O que muita gente não sabe é que os próprios chineses nas redes sociais estão dando risadas com essas desculpas e supostas respostas coletivas dadas pelos trabalhadores chineses da BYD. Eu acho que a mídia internacional chinesa faz um enorme desserviço não só ao país mas ao próprio governo chinês com esse tipo de resposta. Pra não assumir responsabilidade e pra não sujar a cara, rebatem dizendo que é um ataque aos chineses, ao país, que é interferência de forças estrangeiras.
Holly shit! People in the chat are lost. A bunch of people who know nothing about Brazil are saying all kinds of crazy things as if they knew what really happens here. The accusations of semi-slave labor conditions are correct. Several rights of Brazilian workers and citizens were violated by the Chinese construction company over the Chinese people here. None of them are Brazilian, but this is a sovereign country. Our laws must be obeyed while you are here. People had their documents withheld by the Chinese company, had no bathrooms, ate on the floor, exceeded the permitted daily work hours. All of this is prohibited. No matter how workers are treated in your countries, this is Brazil.
1. The workers are well paid (about 2500-3000 USD/ month), this is higher than their equivalent jobs in China and significantly higher than local Brazilian workers. BUT : 2. These high pay comes at a cost: 1. Bad living condition; 2. limited personal freedom locally; 3. OverTime (10h/day, only 2 day break per month). They are a bit like the South Koreans who worked in West Germany's mines in the 1970s. It's hard to say they are 'slaves' but their employer could've at least improve their living condition, it really don't cost that much to live better and eat better.
Brazil is very tight about this, don’t judge “slavery like” by your personal moral sense. Here, you can’t agree to have less labor rights than what the law determines. It’s irrelevant.
The point of allowing foreign investment is that it employs local people. Chinese workers imported to build a Chinese project is not the best deal Brazil could have made.
The team sent in to "investigate" them had already written up the report of "slave conditions". Their documents on their PCs were dated well before their visits. These people are refuting the claims which are meant to make BYD look bad.
Poor guys are used to being treated like animals. They were certainly forced by the company to make this statement, which must have been written by a lawyer. In any case, Brazil is not Africa where they can do whatever they want; they need to follow Brazilian labor laws.
O problema não foram os passaportes, o problema foram as instalações de convivência e descanso dos trabalhadores. Eu vi fotos de um quarto minúsculo com pelo menos 16 camas amontoadas umas nas outras, na china isso pode ser culturalmente aceito, mas no Brasil isso foi um choque para as autoridades.
This happened in Brazil. It's not a great country for workers. If the Brazilian authorities rescued the 163 under slavery conditions, you can be more than sure that there was something very wrong happening there. It's slavery conditions even for as 3rd world country where regular people are working 6x1 on amazon.
It is funny to say that... since the place they are building the BYD plant, there is not enough capable local workers (with the technical knowledge to build the plant) so they had to just use the workers from China, since they already know what to do... But yeah, not being able to speak English sucks. And also the Brazilian side... not having a good chinese translator...
My thoughts exactly. 💯 However, i am shocked at the large number of chinese workers in the BYD car plant in Brazil. Where are the Brazilian workers? Did the Brazilian govt allowed this to happen? If they did, then they have shortchanged their own people. 😕
@@Kiyoone they are basically building a "building" for the factory. Not exactly rocket science. They brought the chinese workers because it's cheaper and they don't have to pay all the workers rights. You probably know that...
No company keeps the original passport of employee, at least I have not seen that in my 40 years of adult life. Why would they keep all employees passports with them?
@@Ckmwellihandle I was in the US military. We went to European countries a lot to train. We had our CAC cards used for ID. They never, and I mean never, kept those things. They might have taken them for a very short while, but we always got them back right after. And the military is much more controlled and restrictive than some civilian job. You can’t just decide to quit and leave whenever you want. But for a civilian job, you should be able to. So by taking these workers IDs they basically ensure that nobody can leave and go back home.
Ahhhh now it all makes sense! The recent 1.6BLN anti china fund! Now the Panama issue also makes sense all happening at the same time! 1.6BLN wasted then as it was already unbelievable! China just needs to release another 2 6th gen fighters flying around
Perhaps the company should employ local worker more. What is the point of foreign investment if the worker are all foreigner. If I hold authority, I would ban such company.
@@mahbrum I'm sure the Chinese worker are more productive than local workers and I'm also sure the allegation about slavery-like working condition is false, but my point still stands. From local government perspective : what is the point of foreign investment if they only employ foreign worker? It doesn't give benefit to local people, only making money there. Lets be fair!
Also, these Type C bingbongs say their people are so hard working and blah blah blah but when I ask them why haven’t they achieved more success in their own lives if that’s the case, they go quiet. They know what they are. They know what they’ve accomplished in their own lives (0).
People want to eat sitting or squating. Eat from big bucket or bowl. All these are freedom of eating. Please do not dictate how people should or shouldn't eat.
Shut down all overseas BYD manufacturing outside of China. I rarely hear Chinese companies treat their employees well. Even Chinese in America prefer to work for big American companies over Chinese companies
In Canada, I've never seen a construction worker wear any type of uniform. In Canada, we wear safety gear to work. I'm pretty sure that's the same in China.
This is amazing. Why are the Brazilian authorities doing this? This is what happens when the left hand of the Brazilian authorities does not know what the right hand is doing. If the Brazilian authorities are co-ordinated, they would have resolved this issue, if any really exists.
Then nobody cares about employees only the rules meaning brazil dictatorship. Bad competion with excuse to defend right of people, pressure for other purposes
Just to remind almost all the jobs in iSa or Europe or Japan for example is considered as a slavery in Brazil , the labor laws in Brazil r amazing to the people.
They don't even think what year it is. IF Chinese workers are treated like slaves, it will be all over Xiaohongshu. Even those in Myanmar industrial estates, words still got out.
This workers arent BYD, they are subcontrated, tô build the factory. I have seen the photos of workplace and resting area and in fact the conditions where very poor .... and there where also a lot of testemonies about agressions....
And there is no reason to contract Chinese for this work that is totally unspecialized, i sugest that BYD make partnershps with locals its a better solution, it may take more time to build it.... but you will have less labour problems
who are you to judge that they are being treated as slaves when the actual workers expressed contentment with their current jobs. maybe your labor officials wants monetary consideration from byd or colluded with western ngo to smear byd brand.
OK SEEMED LIKE BRAZILIANS WANT TO RENEGE ON THEIR CONTRACT, TRYING TO GET RID OF AGREED NUMBER OF SKILLED WORKERS TO PUT ON MORE BRAZILIANS ?? THIS COULD BE AT STATE/CITY LEVEL RATHER THAN CENTRAL GOVT. NOTE THIS BRAZILIANS... THE LONGER THE CONSTRUCTION TAKES THE LONGER MORE BRAZILIANS GET EMPLOYED AT THE FACTORY ... ALL OF SUCH WILL ALSO AFFECT FUTURE INVESTMENTS !@#
U S govt allocated $US16bn specifically for this purpose.
Lol it was Brazil ( a member of Brics) that shut it down 😂😂😂
Ridiculous level of brainwashing lol
Ok, what is your source?
@@arumforyou The whole world knows 🙄
It's even written into their laws !!😆
@ ok, what law are you talking about?
USD 1.6 billion actually not USD 16 billion.
Meanwhile Americans have the 13th amendment: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT....."
The US tech corp (GOOGLE, OPENAI,, ETC) are in AFRICA...employing people for less than $2 a day and un humane conditions. WATCH 60 MINUTES!!
The US mandated 'international rules based order' dictates that others have to obey the rules, but not the US, unless the opposite will benefit the US. Translation, that means the US makes the rules to suit them and can ignore the rules if it suits them as well.
@@L98fiero Ignoring UN international laws! The world will ignore the US. Even allies...they all realize they all will be victims eventually of the US.
@@seymorefact4333 LOL the us only “care “ about Chinese workers and Chinese citizens but nobody else including their own.
Ya brandon also. Signed child abuse laws n where Diddy? Maui. Missing children??? Still no news???? 😢😢😢
The West's tentacles reach everywhere.
I have large "tenticle" special for Chinese girls. 👌
China and BYD and in the wrong here. It is an absurd that they "imported" workers into Brazil and not gave those jobs to the local community. It is similar to exploitation practiced by the colonialist West. Do not give the West ammunition to hit you, as they will would do whatever they can to create a negative image of China in Brazil and raise issues for China's investments there.
Yes...the evil Western tentacles reach far and wide
And millions of people try to immigrate to western countries each year too. Your point? 🎤
😂 Really
as an indonesian it's great to see humans standing up to fake news
It’s good that you Tong Hongs realize that you’re not Chinese like these Type C Malaysians and Singaporeans do.
as a Chinese its sad to see Indonesians fall into Chinese propaganda, but to be fair Indonesian working conditions purely from serterotypes are much worse than average 3000 yuan Chinese
CIA at work again
Paranoid fool😂😂
@@capt9 Paranoid? This is exactly like the Xinjiang "force labor" propaganda. Also, the "Chinese garlic force labor" nonsense. Don't tell me you actually believe all this. Ignorant fool!
How do you know? Were you there? Were you working here? Did you see these conditions like the Brazilian authorities did?
@@mudshovel289 Are you there yourself? Are you the one talking to the workers? Don't BS here
@@mudshovel289
The Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies about slave like conditions of these workers.
Listen to them if you truly care about them.
The US tech corp (GOOGLE, OPENAI,, ETC) are in AFRICA...employing people for less than $2 a day and un humane conditions. WATCH 60 MINUTES!!
It's " inhumane" , not un humane.
So whataboutism is your main argument?
In the mean time, the US has the largest population of slave labour in the world working in their prisons.
Are you comparing those workers to criminals? 😁😁
Er ......... I think you meant " slave labor " . There are over 2 million of them. They work for something like 30 cents per hour. Any wonder why their incarceration rates are so high ? Prison system run by private enterprise ? The higher the incarceration rates, the more money they make.
@ What I mean is ‘slavery-like working conditions’ are best used to describe the prison labor in the US.
@@lucyblueeyes3858 So you are comparing the working conditions at the BYD site to prisons.
But this is about Brazil not USA.
Western propaganda at work 🙄
But this channel is CCP propaganda.
yall done a great job deleting everything relating to this on bilibili in the last 2 days
I call it BS. Whataboutism is not the argument here.
I'm a Brazilian living in China, praise many aspects in this country, and yet, as much I despise the stupid allegations and biased accounts on (better, against) China, I have to be against BYD on this one. It's not a political or ideological issue here. It's a matter of caring about the minimum rights and dignity of those workers. What's more, even the Chinese on social media are supporting them.
All these statements, official letters signed by them collectively, and the company's lawyers defending BYD are wrong and immoral. It's all scripted and their leaders forced to say something very different from the truth. There's no lie about this: there were no "foreign" intervention on these investigations. This was fully conducted BY Brazil's authorities in charge of labor rights IN Brazil.
@@dissonance798tool
Son they are going to say the automated robots are under forced labor 😅😅😅
The West already did use the excuse of force labor on robots against China.
They already did over Xinjiang lmao
@realrandiee oh God WTF
Uyghurs are not robots.
@Bubba-z4s yes but apple and every other product that you have in your house is made in China, so nice try buddy and huge Muslim scholars went to China and debunked the western lies, to much cnn you watch
Well... US is gonna say that those people are being forced to read this statement and sign that letter LOL
Protecting your welfare by making you lose your job..? A well paid job too. mmmm
Brazilian authorities decided that this violated their laws, ok? Brazil gets to decide what is acceptable in its territory, not some chanfei who DOESN’T EVEN WORK! Like what even are you bro? Look in the mirror and answer yourself.
xinjiang cotton, tomatoes, solar panels, they love the chinese and they are protecting them
@@tonyatgoogle6076 be mindful of us.psyop operatives here ...
@@tkh2944also be mindful of unsuccessful Malaysians and Singaporeans trying to live vicariously through China because they have no other way to feel proud. They’ve done nothing in their own life to be proud about.
@mudshovel289 the fact is these local authorities are not happy than the Chinese brought in their own people to do the job.
The best approach to this conflict is to engage the relevant authorities in Brazil and iron out the problems they find goes against their laws. BYD must just do what they want and get the job moving. Throwing stones in either direction won't change anything. I hope for a good result and prosperity for both nations.
True. But at the same time, authorities need and must be seen to be fair too. Ideally, BYD should be employing these people with the same terms and conditions as those workers employed in other car factories in Brazil. Then, such incidences will not arise.
BYD brings economic value to Brazilians coupled with class and quality. Why would Brazilians want them to leave ? Only pro-monopolists hegemon would want that.
There is a problem not only with translation, but with meaning regarding the term slavery. In Brazil, which had slavery by law for more than 300 years, this concept extends to any form of work that could be considered inhumane or dehumanizing.
@@indio2099 Is it considered to be inhuman to sleep on hard wooden or porcelain pillows by your standards ?🤔
@@tkh2944chanfei, you don’t even need to work. You are supported by your family. You sleep in their house, their bed that they gave you. Don’t talk about standards like you’re so tough and used to a hard life.
Are prostitutes slaves? Cause we see them in Brazil... A LOTS
jealous immature entities , try but fail
Ne cherchez pas plus loin, le succès de BYD dérange l'Ouest...
Every accusation is a confession.
Every denial is an admission.
Just remember Brazil during the covid period. It is the only country that gave a low efficacy rate for Sinovac when all other countries like UAE, Indonesia etc report high efficacy for it. Brazil isn't a particularly friendly country, it is still very much entrenched in western mindset. Lula himself can't change things.
@@mudshovel289 Sorry, you are the one that is suck! It has been proven Sinovac has very high efficacy same as those western vaccine!
@@mudshovel289 Psyops
@mudshovel289 Who said Sinovac sucks? Only Brazilians did, just admit that Brazil cannot be trusted. On top of a coordinated social media blitz by the US to badmouth it. Astra Zeneca is the one found & proven to be inferior and dangerous, causing blood clot which the company admitted to and stopped the production.
@mudshovel289 Sinovac works. Your failure Brazil ex-president Bosolnaro is the one who very obviously took sides, unashamedly licking trump backside.
@@mudshovel289 CGTN has said no such thing. Don't make things up, and don't lie. Your gimmick don't work anymore
As usual ...
Some immoral souls trying to stir up a storm over a none issue.🤣
In fact labour legislation in Brasil it is a extremely important isssue, and we realy care about it
@joaomacedo6873 you think their country of origin don't ? You can even ask those workers whether they happily support their government & be shocked by their answers !
@@tkh2944 clownish Chinese will read anything. 😆
why not if paid with USD
@@tkh2944of course these workers love ccp lol
It's that US $1.6 billions at work
chinese bot spotted
blink twice if you were forced to make that statement
obviously, their statement is intended to address Chinese netizens for propaganda purpose, not toward any accusation made by Brazilian government.
@@yeeetingrespectfully7592跑到国外去被强迫劳动？也就你这么坏的人能信了，他们普通话都说不标准，还指望他说英文？
It's not about what anyone thinks, it's about the law, if they follow the law there will be no problems... But going to a different country and breaking the country's laws and later blaming the coutry for their own wrongdoings is shameful.
Brazil is not a true global south, non-Western country. A lot of Latin America is Western oriented. Look at Argentina’s support for Israel.
Brazil is WAY more of a developing country than China is 😂. It’s hilarious how China considers itself the “grobarl south lah”
@@mudshovel289 Are you sure about that?
@@mudshovel289 Dude, quit drugs... please.
@@Kiyoonebro you didn’t even use drugs and your life is STILL like this. What was your excuse? Go look in the bathroom mirror at your greying or thinning hair. Everything in your past has led up to…what exactly? What have you actually done to end up in this role here? When you were a child, did you imagine yourself to be this way at your age?
@@mudshovel289 Are a troll, you're everywhere?
That's how you achieve selling cheap products with slave-like labor practices. It may be the norm in China but not in Brazil. BYD and Brazil have had a good start if the former wish this to continue, treat your employees with dignity.
Someone in the investigating team is a double agent from Uncle Sam.
Worker's rights violations are not tolerated in Brazil, if the company gets caught forcing its employees to work in such poor conditions and human dignity violations it will be up for the strongest fines and penalties of our constitutional laws. It is a very unfortunate situation because Brazilians tend to have a positive view on our partnership with China in many areas... It is not like providing basic conditions like a proper kitchen and laundry, and adequate bathrooms would cost so much more to the company, because there are a ton of Chinese businesses thriving in Brazil and they all comply with our labor laws...
Tell me what laws have been broken? You are barking at the wrong tree!
Are you a parrot of the West? Please dont jump to conclusion before the result of the investigation comes to light.
@@albertleung5823One bathroom for 30 workers, passports being taken away, underpayment. Many other violations in the report the federal police disclosed.
@@albertleung5823 have you even read the report? Or are you here simply because your higher-up told you to, Mr Leung?
住宿生活条件
没收护照
扣押工资
严重超时工作
连巴西这种第三世界南美大区的人都看不下去，不反思下吗byd？
@@VNuxion The workers already said it is not true, who is the one to believe??? The workers just want to get the work done and move on or go home! They don't have to lie! You are barking at the wrong tree, no law is broken! It is Brazil officials fabricated the allegation to deny the fundamental right of the workers! The Brazil officials abused their power! They politicized the issue with CIA to smear China! They are corrupted by the CIA dark money! Clean up your government first by investigating if the officials receive the dark money!
I''m brazilian! If you want to sell your vehicles here, you need work like others car factories do.
Dont tell lies. There is all investigation and vídeos here in YT posted in portuguese.
So many people talking about the US. This takes place in Brazil, so it is not even a video about US LOL. Also, Brazil is in BRICS, so economically allied more with China.
ccp bots not people.They are deflecting lol
they are Chinese bot, The owner of BYD's response to this is not to address any accusation made by Brazilian authority (with literal video evidence), but says "It is the foreign enemies at work smearing us"
GREAT EXPOSURE. BYD and Chinese ambassador in Brazil should speak up and loudly against this discrimination.
tyou mean speak out aga the misreporting.
this is merely a cultural misunderstanding. Chinese people work hard, while Brazilians perceive it as slavery.
So why didn’t you work hard? Disability aside, you could have gotten a computer job to help your family with their bills, right? I guess that part of Chinese culture didn’t last long in your Southeast Asian home?
Do you want Brazilians companies going to China and disrespecting Chinese laws?
It's not simply a cultural misunderstanding. It's also a matter of rule of law (Brazil) versus rule by law (China).
In Brazil, labor rights and dignity are help up there and are seen as a priority, especially under the current government. In China, the law has already codified minimum conditions and aspects that are to be given to workers in order for the sake of their dignitity as a human being. The difference is, in the latter, there's no one keeping it in check and, especially when it comes to big companies, whose internal leaders are Party members, they may very well overlook these laws and get away with it simply because of their status.
In Brazil, this is usually no longer seems to be something that recurrent, as lawyers and authorities are well aware of how easily this can happen and how effectively the worker is safeguarded by the constitution and corresponding laws.
@@mudshovel289 I've read your incoherent reply several times. the question remains, what on your god's green earth iz you trying to say?!
This an US provocation and bribe to the brazil official 😅😅
Brics😂
Just put also the image where they allegedly sleep after work and also the 1 bathroom per 30 workers. Horrible conditions. Show this also instead of showing only the BYD defense side...
I don't know the situation at the BTD plant with the Chinese workers, and I do know how underhanded and deceptive the US CIA and NGO's are, what I do know though, is that the document read by the workers sounded suspiciously like the company wrote it. What is the truth?
工作环境是真实的，强迫劳动是不可能的，稿子大概率是公司写的，因为工人的文化水平写不出这种稿子，但是读稿大概率也是公司和工人商量后，工人自愿的。我好奇的地方是他们的工资是多少？
Y por supuesto, no habrá rectificaciones por parte de los medios. Eso es "poner su granito de arena" en los esfuerzos bélicos por parte de los "periodistas".
No matter what, BYD should investigate and find out more and to make sure this never happen again.
The Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies from Brazilian authorities.
Listen to the Chinese workers themselves if you truly care about them.
@@Abcd1234-q4v Chinese workers opinions are irrelevant. Brazilian laws must be followed.
@@mudshovel289 You keep talking about Brazilian laws. The comment clearly said that the Chinese workers are speaking out against the lies from Brazilian authorities. If you were fair, surely you need to listen to both parties before making a judgement, don't you think so?
@@adamiskandar5107well then the Chinese company can challenge this in court. Both sides will present their evidence. There will be a ruling.
@@Abcd1234-q4v you dont know what you are talking, you dont know brasil legislation...nothing..
差不多得了，这种东西发出来真的是丢人现眼
Why "import" Chinese workers and not give local Brazilian workers a job? Do you think that Chinese companies can go to Brazil and not follow its labour laws? I am pro-China and cherish their investments in Brazil, but this situation showed a not very positive side of China, that do not work to develop local communities and would not share with them a slice (even small) of their profits. There are qualified workers in Brazil, so I think it is an insult to bring immigrants from China to do this work.
What percentage of Chinese to Brazilian?
Can you guess how many Brazilians are on the construction site?
They know they couldn't treat the brazilian workers the way they treat the chinese. Brazil is poorer, but it is a civilized democracy.
@@r.amoedo4151所以他们的工资是多少？
If you read the Chinese side on Chinese social media, the decision to not employ local workers was solely due to the signed contracts with Brazil requiring the plant to be operational in 2025, which will be impossible with local workers. They looked into the history of large projects completed by local Brazilian workers, and determined using local workers, construction will not be able to completed until 2028 at the earliest (2030 at the latest). Based on past experience, only skilled Chinese workers, with many years of specialised experience in large scale construction can ensure the factory goes live in 2025. I do agree, that they should respect local laws and improve the living conditions of their workers and actively look into ways to better incorporate local businesses and talents.
There isn't anything fake, just a cultural difference.
Same working conditions; Chinese feel it's not slavery, but Brazilians feel it is.
It’s not about feeling, it’s about local laws.
Whereas I somewhat agree to the point you're trying to make, what you're saying is not completely true. Just because something is seen as normal doesn't mean it isn't immoral or wrong. What's more, Brazilian authorities have clearly stated that their working hours and other conditions established in the contract infringe ALSO Chinese law.
There's a matter of rule of law (Brazil) versus rule by law (China).
In Brazil, labor rights and dignity are help up there and are seen as a priority, especially under the current government. In China, the law has already codified minimum conditions and aspects that are to be given to workers in order for the sake of their dignitity as a human being. The difference is, in the latter, there's no one keeping it in check and, especially when it comes to big companies, whose internal leaders are Party members, they may very well overlook these laws and get away with it simply because of their status.
In Brazil, this is usually no longer seems to be something that recurrent, as lawyers and authorities are well aware of how easily this can happen and how effectively the worker is safeguarded by the constitution and corresponding laws.
@dissonance798 You just said what I want audiences to know. Law in China is by definition in Chinese 「統治階級管理國家的工具」which mean ruled by law. Law is a tool for CCP to tame the Chinese people.
glad to know the workers are speaking out to debunk the misleading investigation report
they have no choice, if want to receive rest 60% of sallary
Why is he reading and speaking chinese if he's supposed to be a Brazilian BYD labour worker, working in Brazil? Are all the labour force in BYD division of Brazil, chinese? Where are the Brazilians themselves? 😮
those people are building the BYD factory in there... the deal was that they build the plant and train the workers and go home. Nothing strange there, since the locals are not capable to build the plant by themselves and it is cheaper to pay chinese own workers to work there than hiring the locals.
@@Kiyoone It is an INSULT to bring imported labour to do work that Brazilians could do. Please educate yourself and research and study about Brazil. There are plenty of qualified workers there who need a job as economy was destroyed by previous federal government. BYD is in the wrong here and deserve this negative press. I hope this episode changes China's approach to Brazil and that they invest in the locals instead of just taking their jobs.
@@mmuk5903 If there are plenty of qualified workers in Brazil, why don't Brazil build their own EV factory?
@@mmuk5903 Can Brazilians do the work, though? More importantly, can they do the work efficiently, within budget, and within deadline? Do you suppose those Brazilian will need to learn Mandarin in order to follow the instructions of Chinese engineers who already have these experience building these factories? Otherwise, why did they need BYD at all? Why Brazil never attempted to do this for themselves before? Also, you said "BYD in in the wrong here", as if there were no contracts involved that the Brazilian gov't had to have supported. Why no blame on the Brazilian gov't at all?
What’s wrong with reading and speaking Chinese? These are well trained and experienced Chinese workers that BYD needs to quickly ramp up the factory 🏭 construction building.
It's very stupid for Brazil politicians to do this. Brazil is going end up losing at the end. When BYD starts making cars, Brazilians will benefit from that.
Som Brazilians will profit from sleeping with the USA. They are the ones.
How will Brazilians benefit if all the workers in the company in Brazil are Chinese?
You know, Brazil is (yet) a democratic republic with independent institutions. This was not politics, it was that labor ministry, and nobody, not even the president, can interfere when they find violations. The Chinese company can file a judicial case and defend themselves with facts, not politics. As it should be.
It doesn’t matter what the employees or employers have to say. Brazil has strict labor laws, and any company operating here has to abide. If the workers are happy with the conditions applied to them, they can work elsewhere.
Sério que as pessoas aqui nos comentários estão defendendo a BYD? As pessoas estão ficando ideologicamente cegas
50 cent army
Bem-vindo à esfera da mídia chinesa internacional. Enquanto que admiro e aprecio muita coisa na China, isso é algo que me deixa um tanto frustrato. O pessoal se apega à narrativa política pra defender a imagem do país, enquanto que na verdade isso tem de a ver com a administração de uma companhia chinesa. O que muita gente não sabe é que os próprios chineses nas redes sociais estão dando risadas com essas desculpas e supostas respostas coletivas dadas pelos trabalhadores chineses da BYD.
Eu acho que a mídia internacional chinesa faz um enorme desserviço não só ao país mas ao próprio governo chinês com esse tipo de resposta. Pra não assumir responsabilidade e pra não sujar a cara, rebatem dizendo que é um ataque aos chineses, ao país, que é interferência de forças estrangeiras.
Holly shit! People in the chat are lost. A bunch of people who know nothing about Brazil are saying all kinds of crazy things as if they knew what really happens here.
The accusations of semi-slave labor conditions are correct. Several rights of Brazilian workers and citizens were violated by the Chinese construction company over the Chinese people here. None of them are Brazilian, but this is a sovereign country. Our laws must be obeyed while you are here. People had their documents withheld by the Chinese company, had no bathrooms, ate on the floor, exceeded the permitted daily work hours. All of this is prohibited. No matter how workers are treated in your countries, this is Brazil.
They are completely blinded by bias and political indoctrination
They are either bots, paid trolls, or even worse, dumb ideologues ready to vomit any stupid stuff to defend china
They’re not lost, they’re the 50 cent army.
1. The workers are well paid (about 2500-3000 USD/ month), this is higher than their equivalent jobs in China and significantly higher than local Brazilian workers. BUT :
2. These high pay comes at a cost: 1. Bad living condition; 2. limited personal freedom locally; 3. OverTime (10h/day, only 2 day break per month).
They are a bit like the South Koreans who worked in West Germany's mines in the 1970s. It's hard to say they are 'slaves' but their employer could've at least improve their living condition, it really don't cost that much to live better and eat better.
Brazil is very tight about this, don’t judge “slavery like” by your personal moral sense. Here, you can’t agree to have less labor rights than what the law determines. It’s irrelevant.
The point of allowing foreign investment is that it employs local people. Chinese workers imported to build a Chinese project is not the best deal Brazil could have made.
Look at the number of worker strikes happening in the US.......
The team sent in to "investigate" them had already written up the report of "slave conditions". Their documents on their PCs were dated well before their visits. These people are refuting the claims which are meant to make BYD look bad.
Source: the voices inside my head
Poor guys are used to being treated like animals. They were certainly forced by the company to make this statement, which must have been written by a lawyer. In any case, Brazil is not Africa where they can do whatever they want; they need to follow Brazilian labor laws.
O problema não foram os passaportes, o problema foram as instalações de convivência e descanso dos trabalhadores. Eu vi fotos de um quarto minúsculo com pelo menos 16 camas amontoadas umas nas outras, na china isso pode ser culturalmente aceito, mas no Brasil isso foi um choque para as autoridades.
Should be banned if this is true.
The western media only shows those narrow living space and beds but did not show when they slept slept under the bad condition!
These are ppl building factories not working in factory. The problem should not be dismissed. BYD need to fire their contractors
They know exactly what is going on, and they are completely on board with it.
sounds like a oscar awarding night
This happened in Brazil. It's not a great country for workers. If the Brazilian authorities rescued the 163 under slavery conditions, you can be more than sure that there was something very wrong happening there. It's slavery conditions even for as 3rd world country where regular people are working 6x1 on amazon.
It is funny to say that... since the place they are building the BYD plant, there is not enough capable local workers (with the technical knowledge to build the plant) so they had to just use the workers from China, since they already know what to do...
But yeah, not being able to speak English sucks. And also the Brazilian side... not having a good chinese translator...
My thoughts exactly. 💯 However, i am shocked at the large number of chinese workers in the BYD car plant in Brazil. Where are the Brazilian workers? Did the Brazilian govt allowed this to happen? If they did, then they have shortchanged their own people. 😕
@@Kiyoone they are basically building a "building" for the factory. Not exactly rocket science. They brought the chinese workers because it's cheaper and they don't have to pay all the workers rights. You probably know that...
Teach your people, China about the geopolitical situation in the world and to be aware of their surroundings. Put your best foot forward always.
I think BOTH SIDES DO NOT KNOW ENGLISH
Why dont use locals work force then?
No company keeps the original passport of employee, at least I have not seen that in my 40 years of adult life. Why would they keep all employees passports with them?
Because that’s their way of identification?
@mudshovel289 where I live they take photocopy of ID that's all, never keep the original ID with them
@@Ckmwellihandle I was in the US military. We went to European countries a lot to train. We had our CAC cards used for ID. They never, and I mean never, kept those things. They might have taken them
for a very short while, but we always got them back right after. And the military is much more controlled and restrictive than some civilian job. You can’t just decide to quit and leave whenever you want. But for a civilian job, you should be able to. So by taking these workers IDs they basically ensure that nobody can leave and go back home.
It happens when they want to take away the employee's freedom. It happens in Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE. It's a pattern.
@@mudshovel289so it should be held by them, not the company?
Ahhhh now it all makes sense! The recent 1.6BLN anti china fund! Now the Panama issue also makes sense all happening at the same time! 1.6BLN wasted then as it was already unbelievable!
China just needs to release another 2 6th gen fighters flying around
Perhaps the company should employ local worker more. What is the point of foreign investment if the worker are all foreigner. If I hold authority, I would ban such company.
You don't even consider the possibility of better workmanship from a Chinese perspective. I doubt hiring a Brazilian crew would prove to be efficient
@@mahbrum I'm sure the Chinese worker are more productive than local workers and I'm also sure the allegation about slavery-like working condition is false, but my point still stands. From local government perspective : what is the point of foreign investment if they only employ foreign worker? It doesn't give benefit to local people, only making money there. Lets be fair!
@@rian4104It isn't false, stop spreading misinformation.
US Hydra everywhere
marvel movie the only you watch?
跑到国外被强迫劳动，想想就好笑，我翻阅了所有的视频，却还没有得知他们的薪资是多少😂
中国人的心态就是钱给够签卖身契都行，文化差异
Somebody is getting a cut of the 1.6b
Comrades incoming in the millions in comment section
can't compete = ban lol
Run.. Get out from there before its too late
Brazilian labour department not influenced Chinese?!?
放心你们的解释在美国的西方的报道上绝对看不到的 谢谢 这就是他们的目的 就跟维吾尔族人穆斯林人 芭乐是坦人一模一样
巴西人说上一次看到按手印还是巴西黑帮
Also, these Type C bingbongs say their people are so hard working and blah blah blah but when I ask them why haven’t they achieved more success in their own lives if that’s the case, they go quiet. They know what they are. They know what they’ve accomplished in their own lives (0).
Yes, by Brazilian laws.
People want to eat sitting or squating. Eat from big bucket or bowl. All these are freedom of eating. Please do not dictate how people should or shouldn't eat.
but the west loves to shove their odeology down everyone's throat no?
Shut down all overseas BYD manufacturing outside of China. I rarely hear Chinese companies treat their employees well.
Even Chinese in America prefer to work for big American companies over Chinese companies
They are so angry. they signed with their blood
Hi. It's not blood. I believe like in Japan China use name stamps to sign and they use red ink.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seals_in_the_Sinosphere 🙂
You are so funny and...... ignorant 😅
@@S-海闊天空 Yeah, coming from a person who read about 推背圖. Laugh my ass off
@@S-海闊天空 巴西人说上一次看到按手印还是巴西黑帮
In china slavery is common, but it's not acceptable in Brazil, that's the difference between the two countries
😂 🤣 前天我在CNN 上面也看到这个报导 不知所云 有点纳闷 不过在西方有很多这种超级夸张的报导 以这样来滑动驱虫 我们这边都习惯了
用批评的态度看看罪人王菊的报道
我看了很多，共同点是没有提工资是多少
hahahaha take a bus to the USA...the land of the free
至少在这场面的人员 应该穿统一工作服吧。比亚迪应该把这家承包公司开除掉。
In Canada, I've never seen a construction worker wear any type of uniform. In Canada, we wear safety gear to work. I'm pretty sure that's the same in China.
承包商是byd的子公司，查得到的
Already did.
This is amazing. Why are the Brazilian authorities doing this? This is what happens when the left hand of the Brazilian authorities does not know what the right hand is doing. If the Brazilian authorities are co-ordinated, they would have resolved this issue, if any really exists.
Because they’re following Brazilian laws?
Spanish. PROSPERIDAD PARA AMBAS NACIONES.⬆️👍👍👍🌎
当中国工人不得不在 “志愿服务 ”和失去工作之间做出选择时，他们会选择 “志愿服务”。每个在中国长大的人都经历过无数次被迫陷入别无选择只能做志愿者的境地。
So funny😂😂😂😂😂😂
Poor guys
So you are poor
@ those workers
The $16B propaganda money is working to take down BYD in Brazil!
chinese bot
No, BYD is doing very well in Brazil. I see a lot of their cars running here. And we welcome their factory here, given that they’ll follow our laws.
🇧🇷❤🇨🇳
Look at the western “investment” in the garment industry in bangladesh……
Then nobody cares about employees only the rules meaning brazil dictatorship. Bad competion with excuse to defend right of people, pressure for other purposes
You know,how Brazilian works 😂😂😂
Paid actors?
Just to remind almost all the jobs in iSa or Europe or Japan for example is considered as a slavery in Brazil , the labor laws in Brazil r amazing to the people.
I will believe that if you said they work overtime or get low salary。A little bit funny。
They don't even think what year it is. IF Chinese workers are treated like slaves, it will be all over Xiaohongshu. Even those in Myanmar industrial estates, words still got out.
Prove it. You only use statement, but no facts.
This workers arent BYD, they are subcontrated, tô build the factory. I have seen the photos of workplace and resting area and in fact the conditions where very poor .... and there where also a lot of testemonies about agressions....
And there is no reason to contract Chinese for this work that is totally unspecialized, i sugest that BYD make partnershps with locals its a better solution, it may take more time to build it.... but you will have less labour problems
who are you to judge that they are being treated as slaves when the actual workers expressed contentment with their current jobs. maybe your labor officials wants monetary consideration from byd or colluded with western ngo to smear byd brand.
this is a construction site not a 5 star hotel.... get out of ur mom basement
@@joaomacedo6873 So you know the situation in regard to skilled construction labour in Bahai champ? Thought not.
I am who i am and i have the right to exprees myself and in basis of what i have seen in photos and local media@@pioamillos9001
Wow tear in my eye so true how much heart they are they prepared speech
Looks pretty believable /s
HAHA and all the american car makers left Brazil...3 letter agency pushing shit again
False US accusations once again.
Brazil should know better, why are they pulling this bullshit?
They aren’t chinas pet unlike Panama
打不过就吐口水，呵呵
那你b站别删的干干净净啊，此地无银了不是吗？ 还按手印😂 巴西人说上一次看到按手印还是巴西黑帮， 读的这稿有除了护照证件，有回应巴西政府的指控吗？ 而且三月份到年底证件还没办下来？ 自己想想好吗？
serio? vai colocar os resgatados pra mentir??? nem os passaportes deles estavam com os mesmos!!! torço pela BY aqui no Brasil, mas parem de mentir
Mass Media is not always true tats y
OK SEEMED LIKE BRAZILIANS WANT TO RENEGE ON THEIR CONTRACT, TRYING TO GET RID OF AGREED NUMBER OF SKILLED WORKERS TO PUT ON MORE BRAZILIANS ?? THIS COULD BE AT STATE/CITY LEVEL RATHER THAN CENTRAL GOVT. NOTE THIS BRAZILIANS... THE LONGER THE CONSTRUCTION TAKES THE LONGER MORE BRAZILIANS GET EMPLOYED AT THE FACTORY ... ALL OF SUCH WILL ALSO AFFECT FUTURE INVESTMENTS !@#