It is a struggle for me to find the words to express how grateful I am to God for the information presented in this video! A few more missing pieces of the jigsaw puzzle (in my mind's eye) of God's beautiful character have been put in place! Thank you, and may God bless the work you do!
This entire interaction was a blessing! I'll have to watch it a few more times, but thank you, Father, for giving people such clarity on the Cosmic Battle. Thank you for loving us so much. You did EVERYTHING possible to save us. Blessings to Pastor David & Dr. John!
Dr Peckham’s book Theodicy of Love has been one of the most transformative & spiritually deepening of those read in my adult life. This was a wonderful presentation giving a broad overview of the topic & tackling tough questions. I greatly appreciate his desire to stick to only Biblical sources to give us tools & ways to show the underpinnings of the cosmic conflict in the Biblical narrative. Many thanks to both of you for your work within & without Adventism to bring these messages to people - even about the toughest subjects.
I love how the Bible is explained in depth, that i before would not understand fully. Thank God for his blessed people who study his word. God Bless them all.
I am grateful for this discussion. He certainly out-talked you David, but with good reason. Like you I could mostly respond with ‘umm’ 🤔 (with understanding more than questioning) God is always acting out of love in our behalf. We are actors in this too because of our free will, and the agents of evil are as well. There is so much we don’t know about this great conflict but we can trust God amidst it all that all things are working for our good 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Whew! Had to watch this in segments. Will have to go back and watch again. Should be a way to slow the tape down a tad. I am so encouraged that a man with Dr. Peckham’s convictions is teaching in the theology department.
This was such a blessing!! So many questions that had plagued me were answered and the explanations were so logical and reasonable..God bless you both in your ministries and families. I was so blessed by this session. Praise the Lord and thank you so much!
This was a phenomenal video! It really helped me understand so much about the OT that I previously misunderstood! Thank you for making it apparent of how loving, merciful and just God is!! We serve an awesome God!!!
And the people were astonished (Matt 7:28)…that’s how I felt at the end of this presentation. So grateful it was recorded so I could stop and start constantly to take notes. It amazes me that God’s remedial will takes into account the selfish decisions of his creatures and yet He brings about the best good that is possible. No wonder that the answers to our prayers seem to be delayed, God is orchestrating a complicated set of circumstances to bring about His purpose. What an incredible God!
Incredible and so very helpful. I appreciate it! Something I wonder is: Why was/is eternal death the only way for our sins to be paid? I think this is definitely one of the things we don’t know …
At 1:55, just blew my mind. Wow, Israel obedience would have literally given all nations to the opportunity to follow God Without the great loss of life that follow.
I don’t know if I can trust God. I love God but I am afraid to get close, because of things that have happened in life, I’m not sure if I can trust God completely. I want to but I don’t know.
Fantastic job, guys! I've been blessed by your insights and explanations. To be clear, my objection to the "rules of engagement" idea is that it suggests that God would make deals or enter into agreements with the adversary. God can place limits on Satan's activities without having to offer anything in return, and He can tighten or relax those limits as He sees fit. The limits on God's own options are His own principles, His character, and of course the circumstances that He has wisely chosen to allow to "get in His way," so to speak. The Scripture is crystal clear that He does whatever He pleases, in heaven and on earth.
I look at it a little bit differently. I think the rules of engagement are God’s rules and I don’t think he was making deals or entering into any agreements with the enemy. He allows the enemy a certain latitude, but he could easily destroy the enemy at any time.
Of course God has limits - not in the physical sense of being unable to do something, but because of His nature (love) He cannot use redemptive violence. Besides, with His character under question He's necessarily limited in how He can respond without butressing the accusations abd insinuations from the devil.
@@bibleprophecy2019 I see it as ridiculous to call something a "limit" when it's not at all limiting. If human beings feel the most free when doing what is good, loving, and wise, how much more God!
@@CaptE77 Sure, but I see a couple of problems with that. First is that the very language, "covenantal rules of engagement" implies a set of rules agreed upon by opponents before they engage one another in combat or competition. So, it's not good enough to say that's not what you mean. Say what you mean, and mean what you say. Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that God is imposing rules on Himself. Why? Is His character not sufficiently good and stable for Him to do the best thing when He does whatever He pleases? Well, like it or not, that's exactly what He does. "Whatever the Lord pleases He does, In heaven and in earth, In the seas and in all deep places." Psalm 135:6 NKJV That totally rules out any "rules of engagement."
@@simplycynth5.0 To my mind, it's more misleading language -- dangerously so. In a recent session, DA used this terminology to describe something he imagined that sounded highly problematic to me. Are we so blithe concerning probable tricks of the enemy?
God rules by principle and that's why He was willing to due to uphold the principle of love expressed in His law. So ultimately God submits himself to His principles.
@@simplycynth5.0 noun plural noun: rules of engagement a directive issued by a military authority specifying the circumstances and limitations under which forces will engage in combat with the enemy.
I did not hear the mention of the book "God's Character and the last Generation" that John Pecham contributed to along with 11 others. This book misrepresents those who advocate for a true last generation theology and it supports a false gospel that has been infiltrating the Church for a long time now to be on the same page as the evangelicals.
70 nations emerged from Noah's sons. Christ, by sending the 70 triumphant evangelists was prophesying that he was going to reclaim the whole of humanity through the truth that would unfold at the cross.
It is a struggle for me to find the words to express how grateful I am to God for the information presented in this video! A few more missing pieces of the jigsaw puzzle (in my mind's eye) of God's beautiful character have been put in place! Thank you, and may God bless the work you do!
Well put, my thoughts as well 💖
Amen, brother! So glad to hear!
@@DavidAsscherick Sorry
Great video ! David speaks fast and this guy speaks twice as fast as David 😂
This entire interaction was a blessing! I'll have to watch it a few more times, but thank you, Father, for giving people such clarity on the Cosmic Battle. Thank you for loving us so much. You did EVERYTHING possible to save us. Blessings to Pastor David & Dr. John!
Dr Peckham’s book Theodicy of Love has been one of the most transformative & spiritually deepening of those read in my adult life. This was a wonderful presentation giving a broad overview of the topic & tackling tough questions. I greatly appreciate his desire to stick to only Biblical sources to give us tools & ways to show the underpinnings of the cosmic conflict in the Biblical narrative. Many thanks to both of you for your work within & without Adventism to bring these messages to people - even about the toughest subjects.
I love how the Bible is explained in depth, that i before would not understand fully. Thank God for his blessed people who study his word. God Bless them all.
Jesus Wins. Am Blessed by your presentation pastor.
Wooow. That was a gigantic blessing. Thank you God for such men!!!!
Such rich depths and heights of meaning !!!!!
I am grateful for this discussion. He certainly out-talked you David, but with good reason. Like you I could mostly respond with ‘umm’ 🤔 (with understanding more than questioning)
God is always acting out of love in our behalf. We are actors in this too because of our free will, and the agents of evil are as well. There is so much we don’t know about this great conflict but we can trust God amidst it all that all things are working for our good 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thank you pastor David and John It is a big blessing lissten to your talk God bless you and give you His wisdom Hi from Zagreb Croatia
Zagreb? 👍
I keep trying to hit the like button again. Thank you for this in-depth perspective on God's love and compassion. So good!
Whew! Had to watch this in segments. Will have to go back and watch again. Should be a way to slow the tape down a tad. I am so encouraged that a man with Dr. Peckham’s convictions is teaching in the theology department.
Hi Pat! If you click the cog on the bottom right corner, then click on playback speed, and you can choose 0.75 or 0.5
This was such a blessing!! So many questions that had plagued me were answered and the explanations were so logical and reasonable..God bless you both in your ministries and families. I was so blessed by this session. Praise the Lord and thank you so much!
Just listened to this video for the 3rd time. What a blessing! Thank you ❤️🙏
I’m speechless!!! Such a wonderful presentation. I am in awe of my wonderful Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus who sacrificed His life for me.
I love this!!! This is a powerful session.
This was a phenomenal video! It really helped me understand so much about the OT that I previously misunderstood! Thank you for making it apparent of how loving, merciful and just God is!! We serve an awesome God!!!
Powerful. Thanks, David & John. This is very insightful. God bless both your ministries.
And the people were astonished (Matt 7:28)…that’s how I felt at the end of this presentation. So grateful it was recorded so I could stop and start constantly to take notes. It amazes me that God’s remedial will takes into account the selfish decisions of his creatures and yet He brings about the best good that is possible. No wonder that the answers to our prayers seem to be delayed, God is orchestrating a complicated set of circumstances to bring about His purpose. What an incredible God!
This is great! I just wish it wasn't interrupted with Harry Potter and Yellowstone commercials
The best!
wonderful explanations. I think he is the only person who speaks faster than David. :)
Very true
True, I agree about his rate of speech!!! Lol
This was just really great.
Incredible and so very helpful. I appreciate it! Something I wonder is: Why was/is eternal death the only way for our sins to be paid? I think this is definitely one of the things we don’t know …
Wow Amen
Thank you for this! ❤
This is excellent!!!
At 1:55, just blew my mind. Wow, Israel obedience would have literally given all nations to the opportunity to follow God Without the great loss of life that follow.
There's also another book John Peckham has co-authored - "God's character and the Last Generation"
Maximum flourishing of all creatures - is it possible that someone gets the shaft if it maximizes the aggregate flourishing?
I don’t know if I can trust God. I love God but I am afraid to get close, because of things that have happened in life, I’m not sure if I can trust God completely. I want to but I don’t know.
Both of you should write a book together
Fantastic job, guys! I've been blessed by your insights and explanations. To be clear, my objection to the "rules of engagement" idea is that it suggests that God would make deals or enter into agreements with the adversary. God can place limits on Satan's activities without having to offer anything in return, and He can tighten or relax those limits as He sees fit. The limits on God's own options are His own principles, His character, and of course the circumstances that He has wisely chosen to allow to "get in His way," so to speak. The Scripture is crystal clear that He does whatever He pleases, in heaven and on earth.
Yes , that is a better description , I believe , of the Bibles intended depiction of God as it portrays His Character and Will .
I look at it a little bit differently. I think the rules of engagement are God’s rules and I don’t think he was making deals or entering into any agreements with the enemy. He allows the enemy a certain latitude, but he could easily destroy the enemy at any time.
Of course God has limits - not in the physical sense of being unable to do something, but because of His nature (love) He cannot use redemptive violence. Besides, with His character under question He's necessarily limited in how He can respond without butressing the accusations abd insinuations from the devil.
@@bibleprophecy2019 I see it as ridiculous to call something a "limit" when it's not at all limiting. If human beings feel the most free when doing what is good, loving, and wise, how much more God!
@@CaptE77 Sure, but I see a couple of problems with that. First is that the very language, "covenantal rules of engagement" implies a set of rules agreed upon by opponents before they engage one another in combat or competition. So, it's not good enough to say that's not what you mean. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that God is imposing rules on Himself. Why? Is His character not sufficiently good and stable for Him to do the best thing when He does whatever He pleases? Well, like it or not, that's exactly what He does.
"Whatever the Lord pleases He does,
In heaven and in earth,
In the seas and in all deep places."
Psalm 135:6 NKJV
That totally rules out any "rules of engagement."
There are no "rules of engagement," only God's all-wise decisions as to how to operate.
I think that’s what they’re saying but using more descriptive language or concepts, but the intent is the same.
@@simplycynth5.0 To my mind, it's more misleading language -- dangerously so. In a recent session, DA used this terminology to describe something he imagined that sounded highly problematic to me. Are we so blithe concerning probable tricks of the enemy?
God rules by principle and that's why He was willing to due to uphold the principle of love expressed in His law. So ultimately God submits himself to His principles.
@@simplycynth5.0 They are using misleading language, and that's dangerous to the salvation of souls.
@@simplycynth5.0 noun
plural noun: rules of engagement
a directive issued by a military authority specifying the circumstances and limitations under which forces will engage in combat with the enemy.
1:10:45
I did not hear the mention of the book "God's Character and the last Generation" that John Pecham contributed to along with 11 others. This book misrepresents those who advocate for a true last generation theology and it supports a false gospel that has been infiltrating the Church for a long time now to be on the same page as the evangelicals.
70 nations emerged from Noah's sons. Christ, by sending the 70 triumphant evangelists was prophesying that he was going to reclaim the whole of humanity through the truth that would unfold at the cross.